Patrick Mahomes tops NFL’s Top 100 List, Hurts (3) surpasses Burrow (6) | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes react to the latest edition of the NFL’s Top 100 List. Kansas City Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes tops the list, Philadelphia Eagles QB Jalen Hurts comes in third and Cincinnati Bengals QB Joe Burrow comes in at number six.
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Nick wright is a hatter
@@rossgibbs420He sure is.
Titans will win division this year 😊
Titans will win Super Bowl 58 undefeated Titanup 😊😊😊
The Top 100 is about the single year. Burrow is better, but not specifically in 2022.
Wildes' Chiefs are gonna be good this year!
Chiefs will repeat. Write it down.
Wildes knows ball
😂
“Stop saying that” 😂😂
Wildes is a NE fan. The Chiefs are Wright's team.
I’ll never get tired of Wildes saying Mahomes is “our guy” 😂🤣
I love how Nick hates it😂
With Broussard conceding to Nick's narrative, what's the point in watching the show? may as well tune in to local Chiefs radio.
@@DChironChiefs are just great right now, sorry you’re such a hater.
@@jaden5843 fanboy..
@@jaden5843Far from great. Patrick is great. The team isn’t. They are very good that’s about all. Andy Reid is great but the Chiefs are good and opportunistic. The pendulum will turn. The Bengals are a better team and it will show forth in the years to come. When and if the 49ers get a bonified qb watch out. But the Bengals will still be there.
I'll never get tired of Kevin Wildes, man. He is so hilarious 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Andy coached an incredible game. Chiefs had two touchdowns with nobody guarding them
Those play designs and calls were filthy.
Thanks Jacksonville! (Jags pulled it off against PHI in the regular season. KC coaches spotted it on film and used it to great effect.)
@@seakc87Yep, and it was EB that caught it but people don't give him credit for anything.
It was the same play ran on different sides of the field. And yet somehow that DC gets a head coaching job?
@@1craley878it was not though... The other play was a cover 0 where mahomes and the wr improvised...
Woah wait… Nick cannot knock Jalen for a fumble when he lifts Lawrence up for throwing 4 picks then having to work himself out of it
Lawrence won the game lmao Jalen didn’t
Jalen fumbled it twice didn't he? Bolton almost had 2 touchdowns
@@vijayvarghese1652 no that never happened wtf are you talking about?
Nick hates the Eagles?
@@vijayvarghese1652Miles almost fumbled it the other time albeit Hurts gave him a hospital ball. was correctly ruled incomplete tho.
I used to think Mahomes hype was maybe a little too much but then I saw the dude play one of the best second halves I have ever seen in any game on a bummed ankle against a great defense to win the Superbowl
Never seen a player jump from the bottom to the top like Hurts
Fax
To be fair we've also never seen someone take a leap like Jalen Hurts. Hurts was questioned on whether or not he could play QB. Not only did he prove he could but he proved he could from the pocket. He proved it on this biggest stage. Yeah he didn't have flashy numbers passing but he had efficient numbers and was the most efficient and the numbers say it. He massively improved from the year before it was night and day.
Hurts is a half field merchant, any QB in the nfl could make it to the bowl when your defense gets 27 turnovers a year
@@jtworkowsky short field merchant? In the Superbowl Mahomes had one TD over 5 yards and that was to Kelce for 18. Coincidentally Hurts had one TD over 5 yards a 45 yarder to Brown. Eagles had five scoring drives over 60 yards. Chiefs had four.
@@jtworkowsky also that's patently false. Eagles had 74 scores in games in which Jalen played. 46 of them were over 60 yards. That's 62 percent of the scoring drives.
As much as it pains people, Mahomes is so far in a league of his own that Nick’s arguments (backed up by numbers) is just unassailable.
AND THAT'S BACKED UP BY WHAT???? HIS TREMENDOUS NFL CAREER????? BWAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE JUST AS MUCH OF A CASUAL AS HE IS!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
And after all of that. He still isn’t clearly better then Burrow. He is more flashy but more reckless too. Joe is more precise more consistent and it will resonate in the end. Watch.
@@geraldparrish1625More importantly, Mahomes has an undeniably better coach.
@@geraldparrish1625uhhhhh mahomes has 2 Super Bowls already so nothing will show in the end, he’s a first ballot hall of famer today.
@@CheeseLover23burrow has a much better recieving core and defense. Mahomes has a better coach and o line. All is fair, mahomes 2 rings to burrows 0. Mahomes numbers are way better.
Wildes: PMahomes, Our guy, but Brou, you were way early on that.
Brou: I’ll let you come along
Dagger to Nicks heart 😂😂😂
Why are they acting like the top 100 list is an overall ranking and not what it ACTUALLY is, a ranking of the best players from last season. Jalen Hurts was better than Burrow last season which is why he’s 3.
Compare the O Lines man. Burrow with the Eagles O Line probably won the Super Bowl.
@@dailybowlofcereal5685 That doesn't matter it's called scheme. Burrow does not fit the scheme of the Eagles.
@@iKrawwd Bruh. Let me break it down further. If you take each individual player from the Eagles' O Line and put it on the Bengals, they likely win the Super Bowl last year, and this year.
@@dailybowlofcereal5685 Just because an O-Line is really good on one team doesn't mean they fit the Bengals scheme of O-Line. It's not that simple. I'm not saying they wouldn't be good enough, but it would be a stepback bc it's a different playbook and different scheme. You have to understand that. Plus half of the sacks are on Burrow because he likes holding the ball longer than 4 seconds which will get you hit a lot n this league.
@@dailybowlofcereal5685What a dumb argument using hypothetical scenarios. You can say this about literally anything.
The guys in the background laughing at Wildes jokes will never not be funny
QB score 35 you will win allot of games I’m just saying defense should’ve gotten a stop at least
Kadarius Toney return also is a reason Pat had less yards
Reason they won....
The ran the ball great is also why. They relied a lot more on the run game than mahomes certain games
@@tonygonzalez9882Yeah, Pacheco ran hard throughout the latter part of the season and playoffs.
Mahomeboy is the best get over it
@@servicedogojokeguys2967 thats brady
The only question about Jalen is will he do it again and I would yes. He’s improved greatly as a passer statistically he was the best in the pocket as a passer. His attempts were down compared to other QBs but look at yards per attempt. In a lot of the games he was resting in the 4th quarter or the team would just run the ball to close out the game and he missed 2 games as well.
As long as he has the most stacked team in the league again, he likely will. I agree with most of your points regarding efficiency over gross stats. That being said, it's beyond delusional to actually think he's the 2nd best QB in the league.
@@cj7139 I do think it’ll be a argument after this season between him and Burrow. You’ll have people who prefer the style in which Joe Burrow plays QB and others who prefer Hurts. I don’t hold the having a stacked team against because even after Howie put the team together you still had people doubting what he’d do with the talent around him. Plus that argument takes away from the fact he actually improved as a player you can see it in his mechanics, the way he works through his progressions, reads defenses, his anticipation, pocket awareness, timing, etc.
@@marleycoldburrjoe burrow is rather far ahead of a 3rd year, 2nd best team on paper in the league, best OL, best defense carried QB named Jalen hurts. I am not at all a Joe Burrow fan nor a Jalen Hurts hater. But there is more to burrow than Jalen hurts so far. I don’t think it comes really close at all. Jalen is number 4, behind josh Allen.
@@joelmarquez7126 Joe Burrow has the Best WR trio in the league let’s not act like he doesn’t have help as well. I’ll give you the OL they weren’t great. Yes last season was Hurts 3rd year in the league but it was only his second full season starting. He only started the last 4 games his first year after Wentz got benched and Pederson was on his way out. Last year was the first year the team was fully built around Hurts Bengals have been building around Burrow since he was drafted. I also think Hurts is more versatile with his ability to run and his improvement as a passer. Burrows not a statue but he doesn’t run like Hurts.
@@cj7139hurts is better than burrow last season. Read that again. If you don’t understand that then you’re delusional
Are people really questioning whether or not Jalen can consistently throw the ball still? The Super Bowl was not an outlier passing performance for him last year. He was consistent all year throwing the ball. Anyone that doesn’t know that is holding on to old narratives.
Jalen hurts looks pretty good from what I've seen ...that two point conversion in the Superbowl is perhaps the best play I've seen....knowing the importance of it
The fumble looked good too
@@ohnah6261so he wasn't perfect. Mahomes won a Superbowl throwing 2 picks and is idolized.
@@winssports4830 “won”
@@imissryo Hurts did play better than Mahomes in the Super Bowl but it's pretty irrelevant. Mahomes played
perfectly fine and tons of credit go to the coaching staff and offensive line for their win. It was by far the best performance of Hurts' career and still is inferior to Mahomes' 20th best game, that is what's important...
@@ohnah6261 Jalen gave the other team a free touchdown and was still on the verge of winning ...imagine that. ... I'd say pretty good indeed....if not for that maybe an eagles blowout....and no more of this mahomes talk.....so mahomes should send jalen a personal thank you note
Jared Goff got to the Superbowl. The narratives on QBs sometimes is crazy
Hurts threw the ball consistently last season.
Most impactful run lol hurts ran for 3tds. And the fumble didn’t flip the game the game was still 10 points at half
Had the fumble not happened, the Eagles could have chewed up more clock and scored on that possession, widening the gap by either 10 or 14 points. And yes, it was the most impactful run-it was the longest by either QB the whole game and got the Chiefs into the red zone when they were tied late. Only one of Hurts' three TD runs wasn't a QB sneak, and while they all contributed to the scoreboard, the yardage that precedes the score is just as important.
it’s hilarious at this point, nicks saying that a 20 yard run>3 tds, and longer runs from hurts and game tying rushing td and 2 point conversion lmfao
@@LelifterLeoYou don't understand what's called 'critical moment in the game' means... do you kid...
@@LelifterLeoWho won the game? Did running 3 TDs win the game or did the 20 yard run
Jalen can consistently throw the ball, and will continue to improve in that arena, that’s not too much to expect from him I think, Nick Wright🤷♂️
He’s not my second best either ahead of Burrow, but he’ll continue to prove himself one of the best in the league
And nick agrees with you. He said he has him 4th on his list.
My top 10 QBs for 2023
#1 Mahomes #6 Jackson
#2 Burrow #7 Smith
#3 Herbert #8 Tagovailoa
#4 Allen #9 Cousins
#5 Hurts #10 Goff
This is where I find the list (and the discussion around it) confusing at times. I feel like there's a big difference between where we rank guys in a single season compared to just overall (considering all track record)
Who do I have more confidence in going into 2023? Burrow. He has a slightly longer track record than Jalen. But who played better in 2022? I love Burrow, but if Jalen doesn't get hurt, he's MVP. Hands down. Only Pat you can say had a better season.
The game didn't flip because of Jalen's turnover. The game flipped when Phillys special teams allowed Tony to take a punt return to the 2 yard line. Yeah the turnover wasn't good, but Jalen was the only reason they still had a chance to win that game. In fact Jalen put the in position to win. Bad luck on a punt, terrible defensive playcalling, and bad special teams play are the reasons why Philly lost. Bringing up the fumble considering what transpired afterword is just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.
It wasn’t terrible defensive play calling. You sleeping on Ed Reid. Those schemes were impossible to cover after I broke the film down.
Jalen hurts lost them that game with that turnover. otherwise he played perfectly.
The turnover literally changed the game, similar to when Kurt Warner threw that Int for TD at half-time vs the Steelers.
I agree that the game didn't flip after that turnover, given Philly scored a TD on the ensuing drive. It actually
put them in an even more dominant position going into the half considering time of possession. Blaming the loss on Toney's punt return is weak though, they NEVER stopped the Chiefs in the second half, period. 4 possessions for 3 TD and a FG, would've been 4 TD if the Chiefs chose that instead of killing the clock.
@cj7139 I only used the punt return as one example. Did you read my entire comment? I also blamed the defensive playcalling, which was my streamlined way of saying what you said.
The Top 100 list is only based on what players think at the time they are polled, that's it.
No, it's not just based on 1 year's work alone. No, it's not their career total either. It's simply what players think of fellow players at that point in time.
At this point in time, players rated Hurts higher. That's it.
It's NOT only rating the 2022 season, otherwise the list would make no sense. People in the comments saying this are wrong.
So why is Rodgers ranked so low if it doesn't go off of last season? Dude won 2 mvps the past 3 football seasons. Or the same for Jalen. Dude had a great year last year but his other 2 season were average at best
It literally is based on the recent season. That comes from the people who actually conduct the vote lol
it literally gives you the YEAR for a reason😂😂😂😂😂
Well it's kind of implied... if someone asks you "who's the best team in the league in your opinion?" It's implied they are speaking about currently. Not their entire career or their stats from 4 years ago. This list is rating the players from last season.
THANK YOU!!! I really don’t think anybody understands that this is about 2023, NOT IN THEIR CAREER
The reason why the Eagles have a better run game than the Bengals is because of Jalen Hurts. 🤷🏾♂️
I pretty sure Philadelphia Oline is the reason for the good run game not hurtz😂
Hurts is a good qb overall because it should include other things like running ability, not purely passing. And his running was a major part of winning. Polamalu was mediocre at coverage. He played more like a linebacker, making eye popping plays like getting sacks and tackling runningbacks instead of the boring pass defense that typical secondaries do. This is why people consider him to be one the best players of all time, even though he was average at the safety position.
If u switch hurts and burrow i think both teams still have a superbowl appearance
LOL
@@jesse8028it’s facts. If you think burrow isn’t gonna torch the league with the #1 offensive line when he’s been doing it with the 28th ranked offensive line then you’re ignorant lol
@@justadude1065this isn’t a knock on Hurts but if they were to switch team I don’t think Hurts would make it to the playoffs with the Bengals. He did improve his passing last season from the season before but I don’t think that’s good enough to play behind the Bengals O-Line. His passing skills isn’t on Joe’s level when it comes to everything
There isn't a question about his throwing. Only Nick doubts that.
Yes there is
@@jesse8028only because he's black. And y'all think all black QBs can't throw.
@@persistentlypathetic6820naw it’s cuz he can only throw it about 45 yards
The running game is so exceptional because of the threat of jaylen hurtz
It's so hard to rank NFL players accurately. It's like every position plays an entirely different sport.
Right, the different assignments per position are the most unique of any sport.
Glad to see these guys aren't taking time off
Maybe they will in the preseason? Hope not....
A rushing TD is just as important as a throwing td
I love how they ignore Hurts fumbles. Like somehow they don’t count same as interceptions
then add burrows too then . still got more TO’s the than hurts…….fumbled 9 but only lost 2 of em . burrow fumbled 6times and lost 3…..
@@ericfranklin4957 Joe Burrow 2022 Stats:
completion percentage: 68.3 (2nd in the league)
passing yards: 4,475 (5th in the league)
passing TDs: 35 (2nd in the league)
TD Percent: 5.8% (4th in the league)
Interceptions: 12 (8th in the league)
Interception Percent: 2.0 (14th in the league)
1st downs: 222 (6th in the league)
Yards per attempt: 7.4 (11th in the league)
Yards per game: 279.9 (2nd in the league)
passer rating: 100.8 (6th in the league)
4th quarter comebacks: 3 (10th in the league)
Game winning drives: 4 (8th in the league)
on target throw percentage: 79.1% (3rd in the league)
scramble yards: 27 (10th in the league)
scramble yards per attempt: 7.5 (26th in the league)
rushing yards: 257 (12th in the league)
rushing TDs: 5 (5th in the league)
PFF pass grade per snap: 1st in the league.
PFF overall grade per snap: 3rd in the league
PFF WAR: 1st in the league
PFF WAR per snap: 1st in the league
EPA per pass: 8th in the league
Career stats:
Completion percentage: 68.2
Passing yards: 11,774
Passing TDs: 82
TD percentage: 5,4%
Interceptions: 31
Interception percent: 2.0
1st downs: 574
Yards per attempt: 7.7
Yards per game: 280.3
passer rating: 100.4
4th quarter comebacks: 5
Game winning drives: 7
rushing yards: 517
rushing TDs: 10
Additional accomplishments:
1x Pro Bowl
NFL Completion percent leader (2021)
NFL All Time completion percentage leader (1500 pass attempts)
Comeback Player of the Year (2021)
Most 400 yard passing games by a QB in their first 3 NFL seasons
4th all time in passing yards in a single game
Only QB in NFL history with multiple 500 yard, 4TD performances
7th all time in passing yards in a single NFL postseason
3rd all time in completion percentage in a single NFL postseason
Joined Dan Marino as the only QBs in their first or second season to throw multiple TDs in their first 6 games.
Became the first QB taken #1 overall in the draft and make the super bowl in their first two seasons
third QB since 1950 to win 5 playoff games in first 3 NFL seasons
1st rookie in league history to throw 300+ yards in 3 straight games
First and only QB to win a playoff game being sacked a record 9 times
Jalen Hurts 2022 stats:
Completion percentage: 66.5% (11th in the league)
passing yards: 3,701 (10th in the league)
passing TDs: 22 (14th in the league)
TD percentage: 4.8% (14th in the league)
Interceptions: 6 (28th in the league)
Interception percentage: 1.3% (5th in the league)
1st downs: 165 (1th in the league)
yards per attempt: 8.0 (3rd in the league)
yards per game: 246.7 (11th in the league)
passer rating: 101.5 (4th in the league)
4th quarter comebacks: 1 (24th in the league)
game winning drives: 2 (22nd in the league)
on target throw percentage: 77.8% (7th in the league)
scramble yards: 44 (5th in the league)
scramble yards per attempt: 7.8 (19th in the league)
rushing yards: 760 (4th in the league)
rushing TDs: 13 (1st in the league)
PFF pass grade per snap: 7th in the league.
PFF overall grade per snap: 4th in the league
PFF WAR: 8th in the league
PFF WAR per snap: 10th in the league
EPA per pass: 10th in the league
Career Stats:
Completion percentage: 62.3
Passing yards: 7.906
Passing TDs: 44
TD percentage: 4.2
Interceptions: 19
Interception percent: 1.8%
1st downs: 353
Yards per attempt: 7.6
Yards per game: 175.7
passer rating: 92.2
4th quarter comebacks: 3
Game winning drives: 4
rushing yards: 1898
rushing TDs: 26
Additional accomplishments:
Second Team All Pro 2022
1x Pro Bowl
Bert Bell Award 2022
1st QB since 1950 to have 500 passing yards and 150 rushing yards in first two career starts
1st QB in NFL history to rush for 100 yards and throw a TD pass in first career NFL start
1st QB in NFL history to throw 300 yards, 80% completion percentage and rush for multiple TDs
1st QB in NFL history to pass for a TD and rush for 2TDs in a super bowl
Additonal Info:
Source: CBS Sports
Bengals strength of schedule entering 2022: 3rd
OPPONENTS' COMBINED 2021 RECORD: 154-133-2
OPPONENTS' COMBINED 2021 WIN PERCENTAGE: .536
Most difficult schedule in the AFC
Eagles strength of schedule entering 2022: 30th
OPPONENTS' COMBINED 2021 RECORD: 133-154-2
OPPONENTS' COMBINED 2021 WIN PERCENTAGE: .464
Eagles only played 6 teams that made playoffs, tied for fewest in the NFL
Eagles had the easiest strength of schedule in 2021
Source: PFF
Bengals Offensive line grade: 28th
Eagles offensive line grade: 1st
You cant debate actual numbers. show me where jalen is better outside of running the ball. show me where hurts is the second best QB in the league. Show me where any of this would suggest hurts is better than burrow, you cant without flapping gums and saying nonsense that is based on opinion and not fact.
TOP people. TOP. 38 pts in 24 minutes. 53 total plays to the Eagles 72. 132 rating, 78% comp. 3 TD, 0 INT, 0 sacks. Game, set, match.
Man. Still pushing Burrow and Allen on us. Fly Eagles 🦅
I'm a Chiefs fan & I agree with Hurts over JOEVERATED.
@@jenniferaceste8823😂 you’re definitely a Chief fan
Burrow is legit but Allen is a fraud
@@BengalsNation632
Hurts & Allen each had an MVP vote.
Hurts was 14-3, the #1 seed. Allen was 13-3, the #2 seed.
@@jenniferaceste8823Joe's stats with 28th oline reads overrated ? What an uneducated statement. Stay on your wagon.
Mahomes should be #1 2 an 3. Nobody close to this dude, what he did against that Philly D while on an injured leg with no star WR is amazing
Superbowl was won by their coach, not Mahomes, I will suggest you better watch the game again. Ok.
@123123roo - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love all the guys but Wildes really makes my day
Creed Humphrey not making the list is a crime
2nd best center in football.
This isn’t a QB list it’s the best players. Hurts is a dual threat
The Eagles have a "better running game" the running game is nothing without Jalen last year outside of the Giants game in the playoffs Jalen had more rushing yards combined in the next two games. In the two games without Jalen Miles Sanders ran for 126 combined yards on 33 carries. It was only effective because of the oline and Jalen.
Cindy's defense is no slouch they are the reason they've been so good and won playoff games more than Burrow and the offense. Eagles defense thanks to the coordinator was called overrated all year (proved it in the Superbowl by getting zero stops or big plays) but the defense is better? So y'all can't pick both sides on the Jalen argument. Either the roster is the best in the league or it's overrated pick one. They lost so couldn't have been the best in the league. Jalen played lights out besides the fumble and yes that cost points but they had a ten point lead after that and his defense couldn't make a play or get one stop.
@@winssports4830
Who's Cindy?
@@jenniferaceste8823 lol meant Cincy as in Cincinnati.
as a huge tom brady fan, now that he’s gone patrick mahomes is by far the best players in the league. it pains me to say it cuz i can’t stand the chiefs but credit is due where it’s due.
genuine question, if Pat retires with 4/5 SBs, would you argue against him being the GOAT? i’m simply asking bc he’s already won two without having the stacked defenses that Brady always had in NE and in TB
@@Christian-xr7hc depends how many MVPs he wins and the stats. If Pat wins 4-5 rings and wins SBMVP in every one, while also getting 5+ reg season MVPS. In my mind, it's case closed.
Brady is great, but to think his first two rings (first ring he barely played AFCCG) where he was basically carried by the defence and consistently put forth sub-par offensive outings, are more impactful and important than like 2-3 more reg MVPs from Mahomes of clearly being the best player in the league, is just moronic imo
@@Christian-xr7hcabsolutely
They seem to forget that this list is about LAST YEAR and last year only…
Does Nick know they update this list every year?
As an eagles fan I'm confused as to why everyone thinks our defense was super amazing. We had a lot of sacks but that's it, teams didn't score a lot on us because we usually owned time of possession and the good qbs we did face lit us up.
Hoff, Dak, Mahomes etc
The strength of last year's team was the offensive line, no doubt. Being able to man handle everyone in the pass game, the 4th & 1 automatic they created, and the waves of rushers they had was undeniable. All aspects off the offense feasted off the production of those big boys.
@@danielllll521 I agree, which why it weirds me out when people only look at the sack numbers and assume we had this monster defense, the personnel was good but the scheme was absolutely horrible
Even if you want to say that your defense wasn’t the best last year. You can’t argue that it was anything less than top 5. Certainly better than the chiefs defense that has one star, a bunch of rookies and second year players and good coaching.
I’m with you Wildes, Leave Goff alone please. I like what he’s doing in Detroit and I like his attitude.
These doorstops couldn't even come up with their own form of protest and then you shat the bed in the most pivotal moment GENIUS GENIUS 👍🏼🤣😭
Why is it all the players even from opposing teams say that he is a great thrower but the media keep saying he can't. Also, the fact that Nick has Lawrence ahead of Hurts is crazy and I love this show.
They say he's no consistent and he isn't. He had games where he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
@@blackanimelover18which games? Cause No.1 in completion % and passer rating from the pocket last year says otherwise.
It's because most of the players are obsessed with the narrative of racism and want to put black QBs on a pedestal.
@@blackanimelover18 stop lying in these comments...stick to anime goofball
Players are the least likely to be honest about that
being the best means you are in that top 1, but some other players may have a better season than you. The reason someone can be number one in that list and not the best is because at the end of the year we dont expect them to be back like that, unlike Mahomes who has done it for a handful of years now and earned that crown. You need to outplay the best multiple years to dethrone them.
Nick will never talk about Joshie Boy's legs
Love your show
I just fast forward whenever Nick starts talking about Mahomes.
Lmao. Mahomes is only getting started in this league. He be living rent free in all y’all haters heads😂😂😂
@@deemity7557cause y’all meat riders over do it & it’s been 6 years he’s not only getting started
@@deemity7557 is this nick wrights burner account?
@@iwantiguodala3798 5 years as a starter and yes he’s just getting started cuz y’all have at least another decade of taking Ls to him😂😂😂
@@deemity7557Be careful not to jinx Mahomes. He can always go out and tear an ACL
Burrow did have the sorst oline, but he had the best wr core
Games are won and lost in the trenches. If you don’t have an oline those weapons become useless.
Burrow is gonna have the “best reciever Core” as long as he’s on the bengals. They’ll have Chase for a long time, and even if Higgins leaves, they’ll just find another receiver by either drafting or just signing someone. The bengals have been pretty bad for a long time but one thing they have always been good at is getting Weapons on the outside.
Genuinely Love wilds timely sarcasm 😂
Love this show
Jalen Hurts IS the offense. Sure, Joe Burrow is the one facilitating and getting the ball to his star receivers, but I would take Hurts over Burrow 7 days a week, 365 days a year.
What was he like with 2 star receivers?
3,700 yds, 22 tds and 6 ints. . . . . . . . .
What?!
Those are stats from 1970. 🤣😂
@@CalebJohnstonright people ignore the fact hurts literally got the best supporting cast in the NFL lmao
@@CalebJohnstonI said the same thing n all his rushing TDs is inside the 10
Congrats, you just said whole lotta nothing
@@Crashsui dude, 10 of his rushing tds came off of qb sneaks. It's not hard to score a TD being pushed by 10 guys.
Do they vote based on the last year alone or each person’s individual career up to that point?
Last year alone (that's why Lawrence was waaay too low)
its mix of both
The players vote on this. So they are voting on who they think is best in the league based on their opinions.
I'm pretty sure you could find tape of Nick saying the same things about Aaron. I wish we kept Andy in GB. Oh, what could've been..
Yea. I agree with this list
Jalen balled out... Andy Reid is a mastermind... he won that SB
And Mahomes was beastmode on a bad ankle when plays broke down, when Andy's schemes didn't work. For example, when Mahomes had to improvise on the Skyy Moore TD (as Andy was trying to stop the play with a timeout), when Mahomes had to rush for the first down into the red zone on that same bad ankle in the final few minutes. Andy's great, maybe the best, but he never won a Super Bowl until Mahomes.
@@professorwigginslectures3808Fr. People hate Mahomes so much now they want to give Andy all the credit when before Mahomes he was known as a perennial playoff choker😂😂😂. Talk about revisionist history 😂
@@deemity7557 Completely true. Andy Reid had never won a Super Bowl and had a 20-18 playoff record with one Super Bowl loss in 20 years. After Mahomes became a starter, Andy's playoff record has been 11-3 with 2 Super Bowl wins and 3 appearances in 5 years.
Before Mahomes, Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce had won a total of one playoff game between the two of them, seven seasons between the two (5 for Kelce, 2 for Hill).
People hate Mahomes because he's possibly the greatest they've ever seen. I admit to doing the same thing with Tom Brady, saying it was just Belichick, running Brady down because he always seemed to be throwing to wide open receivers. But I was lying to myself all those years. It was Brady reading the defenses like a genius and finding those wide open receivers, it was Brady developing the greatest quick release in history to overcome his lack of mobility. I can now admit that.
Maybe one day some of these Mahomes haters can get over their jealousy and sour grapes and tell the truth themselves.
Bengals lost by 3 points to a team that scored 23...eagles lost to a team by 3 points that scored 38...there is a big difference. Burrow's unit scored 20 in the biggest game... Hurts unit scored 35. Thats 75% more scoring.
Talking about the defense...bengals have had the best playoff defense the last 2 years...they only give uo 17 ppg on average...and haven't given up more than 24...they have played chiefs twice and they weee only able to score 24 and 23 in those 2 games. Why are we giving creidt to burrow when it is Bengal's defense which is actually their better units. The offense only averages 22 ppg with all those weapons and haven't even scored above 27.
Love how you forget Burrow had the worst O Line 2 years straight and had to get the ball out fastest in the league
@@24KLuxuryLmao. Everyone loves complaining about that o-line when that same line absolutely dominated Buffalo. Joe also has a great defense, the best recieving core, and a good defense, especially in the playoffs. Joeoverrated has had plenty of opportunities in the super vs the Rams and the championship game vs the chiefs to get it done but he didn’t. Despite Cincy having a 5-2 playoff record with Burrow, he has yet to throw a fourth quarter touchdown, or score 30 points in a playoff game😂
I think people forget this list is suppose to be about how these players produced for the yr not about totality of the sport
Terrible argument against jalen. MJ dropped 63 I believe in the garden. In a loss. He was irrefutably the best player on the floor in a loss sir.
😂😅Dude... you seriously just compare Hurts to MJ??😅
Allen > Burrow
The list lost credibility when it ranked Hurts above Burrow.
Brou...Mahomes was playing the number 1 defense in the league. Hurts was playing like the 18th defense in the league. That matters.
Nick Wright, who's never played football or interviewed Hurts: HE'S NOT BETTER THAN BURROW!
Players who played with and against Hurts, including Mahommes: he's amazing and a great player.
Maybe the players know a little bit more than Nick Wright
But did they say he was "better than Burrow?" I'm sure Nick would agree with you, players who've played against him, and Pat Mahomes that Hurts is "amazing and a great player."
Who cares? You don’t need to play football to evaluate football. That’s pretty obvious
@YodaSmokes he doesn't evaluate anything, he's a fan boy.
@professorwigginslectures3808 nick did say Burrow is better than Hurts. He's also said Trevor Lawrence and Herbert are better. Hurts beat Lawrence and Herbert had a 21 point lead in a playoff game and lost.
Yeah and I think league executives, GMs, coaches, and staff who evaluate talent across the nation and build these teams know better than the players and they ranked burrow as the 2nd best QB in football and hurts the 6th….
I thought hurts fixed any problems he may have had with his throwing ?
Nope
How yall gonna argue against wat the players who play against em think?? Crazy
This poll is 1st handed out in early December to the players
Tell me with a straight face that if you swap Hurts with Herbert the Eagles don’t end up playing the SB and maybe winning it..I get that Hurts was amazing last year and the improvement was incredible but he also had the best defense the best oline and a top 5 wr room and a really weak schedule..I’m not saying he’s bad or a fraud,he’s legit but there are several QBs in the league with better numbers among then Burrow Allen and yes Herbert
Seriously? The guy who lost even with a 27 lead? Lol I know he doesn't play D but he only scored 3 points on the second half
Herbert would have lost by way more.
@@carepot6671 and who’s doing the play calling? who are his receivers? bro watch some tape of herbert..he is by far the most unlucky of all of the top QBs in the league by quite some margin
@the_pudding_boy8834 the Jaguars had 5 turnovers in a single half lol that's pretty lucky if you ask me
@@carepot6671Fr. Herbert gets so many excuses cuz he has the best “look” of a quarterback and throws pretty balls. The ability to win in clutch time and to overcome the shortcomings of your team is more important than being the prototypical qb😂
A better way to judge quarterbacks is by watching them play. Rather than watching their stats
That’s the way to do it if you want your guy to be better but don’t actually have any data to back it up.
@@willandizzlenah lol, ofcourse you're compairing the elites. He means the eye test is the best
@@nassiglutt6587it’s not tho. Casual NFL fans haven’t got what it takes to critique elite talent in the highest level of football played in the world and say “I did the eye test” NONE OF YOU have that ability. If y’all did like y’all always claim to have…you’d all be scouts being paid handsomely by the NFL to scout talent across the league which none of you are. “Eye test” is exactly what the other guy said….I can’t argue using statistics and advanced analytics so I take the cheap easy route and claim to possess the “eye”
when do they the vote? around thanksgiving not after the season soooooo most of this conversarion is meaningles
Josh has done it for 3 years and has worse weapons,o-line and coaching then both joe and Jalen lmao 😂
Let's just gloss over how Andy Reid made the eagle defense look like a jv high school team and mahomes was hitting WIDE OPEN receivers. He played great but cmon now let's not forget what actually happened.
Mahomes didn’t even throw for over 200 yards. 14 points came from the Hurts fumble and essentially the punt return from Toney. Let’s not forget what really happened.
Ohhh! I looked up the stats! Mahomes receivers had an avg of 2.6 yds of separation across the entire receiving core.
Jalens wrs had an avg of 2.7 yds of separation.
Might want to dig into the stats before you talk about silly things
@@CalebJohnstonI just realized something else let’s not forget that it was a 3 point game the came down to the very last possession. And Jalen hurts actually played the better game as the stats will tell you
Meanwhile on the flipside, Hurts terrorized the chiefs defense and even broke a record for a superbowl. Lol
@@LennyDykstra1the time of possession was SIGNIFICANTLY in favor of the eagles by almost 11 minutes
Nick doubted hurts last year, and after getting proved wrong he’s going to do it again
How is saying he's the 4th best quarterback doubting him?
@@Freddie7191lmao do u not see how he treats Josh Allen? Same thing boutta happen for hurts
@@Freddie7191Hurts outplayed Mahomes in the superbowl. His defense let him down...
@@tbryant8058he didn't outplay Mahomes... Mahomes had like one drive in the first half and then was perfect in the second!
@@bmxney3143he has much higher opinion of Hurts.
Hurts gave his defense a ten point lead and was two blown calls on the same play against Smith from being 14 points up at half.
With wildes cheering on the chiefs, he might jinx them into having a rocky season. He jinxed the Bucks last year, and picked the cardinals to go to the super last year too
I dont think many people are concerned about hurt's consistancy throwing. He was just as accurate as mahomes last year. He just has other weapons to use and the team is less pass happy.
I think it’s more consistency of “year over year…”
Mahomes threw 200 more or 44% and had a Higher accuracy last year… with one of the worst receiving cores going into 2022… all he has is kelce… they have to throw but cause their RBs are scrub… everyone knows that and he still can’t be stopped. Eagles also had the number one o line.
@@Cam-ch2mgso what teams are allowed to build around their QB saying that is dumb
@@Cam-ch2mg”all he has is the best TE ever” must be rough.
@@chasingfelix3609 and that is it.. PFF ranked chiefs receiving at like 24th.. that included the TE kelce. Eagles were top 5
We need to admit that just because someone plays in the NFL that doesn’t mean they can properly evaluate players
Nick’s a very smart guy and I don’t know why he thinks it’s so clear Dak is better than Goff. No facts say that nor the eye test.
Dak is literally the black Kurt Cousins😭🛑
*Kirk Cousins
Nick consistently takes Mahomes balls deep
A lot of people do, especially nfl defenses 😂
@@chosen729Fr. The haters can continue crying or they can just accept PM15s greatness and enjoy the game more😂😂😂
Bruh this show has become the mahomes fan club🤦🏽♂️
Maybe cuz he’s just that good. Instead of being in denial, just join the club. You’ll enjoy watching football more😂🤣😉
@@deemity7557 nobody’s in denial even a blind man can see that mahomes is great and is the best in the league, but there’s a difference between acknowledging greatness and meat riding..
@@vonsolit4349 well Mahomes has truly revolutionized football in KC, not to mention being a part owner of multiple teams and just overall being the most influential man in the city. Forgive us for throwing so much support and adoration his way that it could be confused for meat riding.
I’m tired of hearing how bad Burrow’s line is. It was fine against Buffalo. They have the sixth best win rate in the league. Some of it has to be on Joey B
Bills were missing 3/4 of their dline and were running a skeleton crew by then. Burrow is a great QB.
Burrow only accounts for 6% of the sacks he takes. PFF already broke this down. He also has the fastest release in the league. Their win rate is so good because all they have to do is at least stand in the way of the defender and because burrow is getting rid of the ball so fast it’s making his oline look better than it is. The bengals oline was ranked 28th in the league by PFF
@@brendananderson39 he is definitely the second or third best QB in the league, no doubt. But they get him O-line help every year and every year they’re the scapegoat. Orlando Brown is mid, but everyone thinks he’s great, so will they still blame that unit this year?
Cam’s SB fumble and Hurts Fumble are the two plays that really gives the NFL (script is in) conspiracy a legitimate stand…. Ijs
Or you know, they just made a mistake cuz they’re not perfect😂😂 Nice try though salty boy😂🤣
This has more to do with the players liking him as opposed to how good he is.
How good WHO is?
Burrow wasn't better than Hurts last season and they literally have the same resume so stop crying
Burrow was tho check the stats💀
@@Crashsuino he wasn’t
@@Crashsuilast year he definitely was
Hurts is definitely not a better QB than Joe. Anyone with an operational brain knows that.
28th ranked o-line vs 1st ranked o-line... not the same, not even close. JOE is the difference.
Of all people, I would have thought Nick would appreciate someone finishing 2nd.
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@@ohnah6261he constantly praises Lebron for just making the finals, not even winning it lol
Lol all this hate is fueling my boy jalen into a raging fire
Exactly, Hurts barely cracks the top 10 as a passer
Mahomes definitely is in a class by himself. A top tier 👏 👌 player who takes the time to accurately analyze what the game is and what he wants for his team 👏.. A leader like that is hard to find. His team mates are surely delivering 👏 just what it takes to accomplish this season's 👏 💪 🙌 👍 👌 ✨️ win. They're all good and want to be excellent in their own way on the field. They want to showcase their skills . Mahomes has poured everything in them during training camp, and it will be seen as soon 👀 as the games begin.
For Chris to say that makes me think there is no deal in Kansas City. I love Chris Jones and hope he stays with the chief but it doesn't look good. Unless something has already happened and I just haven't kept up on it
Jalen definitely outplayed mahomes this narrative is crazy
@@2times2is89 Not in the second half of the Super Bowl. Not many defenses in the NFL would've outplayed the Chiefs D then.
No, not definitely. When it was crunch time, Hurts disappeared and Mahomes played lights out.
Cry harder lil boy😂😂😂
@@2times2is89 The D didn't barely hold on in the second half. It was the Philly D barely holding on, allowing the Chiefs to run up 24 points in the second half, which could easily have been 28 but for a wise hook slide by McKinnon. The Chiefs lit that vaunted D up.
Brady’s 28-3 comeback was absolutely the greatest comeback in superbowl history!!
It was an amazing collapse lol. BTW Brady wasn't the MVP in that game so maybe don't call it his comeback alone lol
@@joebin3286 I don’t think any other quarterback gets that comeback completed. Yes Atlanta collapsed, but patriots executed.
@@royhobbs5167 wrong. Mahomes would. He erased a 24 point lead in 10 min of game time.
@@joebin3286 Except didn’t Brady beat Pat? Like I’m pretty sure they played, and Pat didn’t do that.
@@royhobbs5167 we’ve seen Brady behind a middle of the road DL in the SB. He lost to the giants and Eli twice lol. Also last I checked Brady and mahomes don’t play d
The best Super Bowl performance I’ve ever seen??
The Seahawks vs broncos.
Both teams were healthy. Number 1 offense vs number 1 defense. All time great manning…. GOT SMOKED. That defensive performance was INSANE.
Jalen Hurts had a better 2022 regular and post season than Joe Burrow and that it a fact
Nick is absolutely right. How can Jalen be the best player in the Superbowl when he straight up fumbled the ball away for no reason and didn’t put up TD’s in the second half? The Eagles had plenty of chances offensively to put that game away but they either settled for field goals or went 3 and out. Mahomes on the other hand scored 3 straight TD’s and then drive into FG range to run the clock out on 1 leg!
hurts scored the game timing td and 2 point conversion at the end of the game, over 100 more passing yards, more rushing yards, more tds on a bad shoudler
@@LelifterLeoand yet did that fumble recovery for a TD contribute to them losing by a total of 3 points🤔 despite his best efforts hurts put 6 points on the board for the CHIEFS…he still choked.
There was no unforced error...he did not make a mistake. He accidentally dropped the ball. It was unexplainable and happens often. No one would have thought twicevabout it, had it not resulted in a touchdown.
Lol, isn’t dropping the ball and giving the other team a td the literal definition of an unforced error?
Yeah like mahomes and the chiefs accidentally won the superbowl 😂
Actually I’d take Goff over Dak anyday! That Rams vs chiefs game is so memorable.
most quarter backs run alot when they are scared and have no idea what to do but run. the greats run when you slippin and they take advantage of your man defense
Overrating Hurts. By a considerable amount. Because of 1 incredible throwing game and a shoe-in QB sneak.
Jason is honestly more important to the offense.
I think rating him this highly based on essentially this season alone makes no sense. Yeah, he’s overrated right now, but one or two more seasons like this and you could make an argument for it.
I can tell you didn’t actually watch any games and that’s ok. But he only lost one game during the regular season that was more team mistakes than his fault plus he went to the Super Bowl. So last year he was one of the best players in the league and arguably the most important
@@theegreenonethat’s the point of the list 😭😭2nd in mvp , went to the bowl . lost what 2 games with him? how is that not 2? it says of 2022
Yeah, we watched some of his games (of course). Just not Eagles fans. The guy has a great line, and (what I think is) the best receiving core in the league. If you think he’s a top 5 QB in the league-let alone second-that’s crazy. But we shall see this year. (Still, great improvement. Liftime Bama fan, and remember is limitations in college….seems like good ppl, too.)