I've seen one other lesbian couple (Alyssa & Sam) on here going the adoption route. They even were able to show the court proceeding via zoom to complete the adoption. It's sad that it's needed, but am so very glad it's there for those that can and do use it. Good luck with everything. Bernie ❤
I went through this 26 years ago with our first child. I felt just like you about having to spend thousands of dollars to “adopt” my own children. Sad to hear things haven’t changed.
I wish in my country (Czechia) all of this would be even possible. Single woman or gay couples cannot go for ivf pregnancy, like you literally have to show up to the clinic with a man, you dont have to be married but you need to show up as a couple (real or not) man with woman, we dont have gay marriage (only registered partnership) and gay couples cannot adopt. I hope this changes soon. When I see your vlogs, people from UK or USA, I dont understand why it cannot be possible like that everywhere :(...your family is so sweet :)
Even in uncivilized Russia we can do ivf if we don’t have a partner 😂 (I did it with the donor sperm, no one gives a fuck whether you have a man or not)
This is so inspiring and totally understand your both covering yourself and this is just taking care of Harbor. Legally you’re looking after his future and making sure you both legally are his mothers. Enjoyed this video a lot and thank you so much for this informative video
I avoided all of this when we went through reciprocal ivf. We drew up new paperwork with a lawyer through the clinic so that I retained my parental rights to the embryos and my wife also maintained parental rights so that we have equal care of the embryos and any subsequent children. Much cheaper on the back end.
Everyone was having fun with me saying that im changing my furnitures decoration of my room a lot and i always have house decoration diy projects going on just like you guys 🥲 i feel less weird when im watching your videos everything about your life (being house project addict, being lesbian) makes me feel normal. Thank you seriously 💞🥺🥺 and lots of love to honey boy 💗💗
WOW! I enjoyed ur update on the furniture! I never knew about the adoption part 4 u since u both a couple. I thought that by now u both be legally Harbor's parents but I guess it makes sense. I wonder if u could possibly elaborate what this process is all about. Anyway, it was nice 2 see a new video from u both! Love u all and God bless u all! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Omg hello, seeing your guy's vids make my day, and week too. I'm not alone anymore, and you've both helped me to continue believing in love. Harbor now too, he's grown so quickly! Resembles both of you :'> Anyway, this'll be a great video!
Loving the new couch and video your content always is so wholesome love seeing new updates. Positive vibes always brings me a smile every time i watch new videos It sounds like a tedious process to adopt harbor because ' legally ' you aren't his legal parent on documentation.. Laws seriously need to be changed this sounds stupid that you have to adopt your own son simply because your a gay / lesbian couple.. I'd be pissed off too
Thank-you for documenting this process and explaining why you’re doing it even though you’re on Harbor’s birth certificate. It’s so important to get that safety net as a gay couple right now, especially in the US. As much as we’d like to think that they’d never go as far as taking away the children of legitimate relationships, we all know better. As disgustingly wrong and unfair it is that you have to adopt your own son, it really is better to have that protection, given how people love to take away LGBTQ+ rights left right and centre.
1) Julia saying "if you are stealing supermarket you may have issues" sent me into a full laughing fit! 2) I Hella appreciate them talking about the adoption journey. I just assumed that when a couple went through donor/surrogacy that both parents had parental rights. I didnt knew adoption was even needed
My wife and I debate this ALL THE TIME! Our son is almost 5 and we were married before he was born, I’m also on his birth certificate…but damn do they like to threaten our rights 🙄 Genuinely may need to look into a lawyer! Thanks for the motivation 🙏🏼
So glad to see you again! It's so strange you have to adopt your son..he's literally here because you and Abbie made him together. The laws need to change. Having said that..my wife needs to adopt the children we have..insane to me
Best of success with the adoption! Unfortunate that you still have to undergo this procedure to have a safety net in the USA (the same also applies for Germany). In Austria (luckily) if a child is born during a marriage (also same-sex), both parents automatically become legal parents.
As the elder sister of two siblings, I think I can say with a firm belief at 5:49 harber wanted to know if she knew he could say "dada" probably since he calls both of them "mama" lol I'm not homophobic, I myself am lesbian, I am just saying what I think was going on lmao
Can you share why you need to adopt Harbor, why isn't he legally 'yours' through marriage? Just asking as in Ireland I don't need to adopt if my wife's going to give birth as long as we're married, I thought it's exactly the same in the US, isn't it? Keeping my fingers crossed everything will go well!
Same issue in Germany, in married lesbian couples, the one who did not give birth to the child has to adopt it. But, there are currently lesbian couples with kids trying to get that changed by the German Supreme Court. Hopefully, the US will get there one day as well. Good luck!
Abbie loves you sincerely Julia and she never leave you or replace you if hottest girl came into your lives also she's sincere with you. Her world is you and harbour. I saw that type of love on abbie's eyes . She's perfect. I don't no you guys see this comment but I said this for you guys . She'll never leave you and take away harbour from you
If a couple is using a donor that donors parental rights are already forfeit, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be a form just like unmarried straight couples.
Love watching your vlogs so much! I discovered your channel not that long ago, and I instantly fell in love with it! I come from a country where we are fighting a crazy government, the Russian government, a country, in which gay, transgender and non-binary people mold non commercial organizations all by themselves and they are pretty much capable of operating exclusively thanks to generous donations. So I'm delighted to hear that you can find your place and seek support and help here if you need it. Yet it's not state acknowledged and therefore lgbtq+ people can't express themselves freely. It would be really great to have it here like you do. Happy for your family, you are amazing!
Maybe this has been stated in one of the content comments I don't know. But it goes to show you the commitment level of gay parents affirming their love for their children by having( a BS useless step but that's the law) the extra mile by adopting their own children. And yet these bigots argue straight couples are the only ones that should be able to have children because having children ownership by default is working out so well in many cases. hmmm I wonder what's more beneficial for a child's health parents that have to go an extra mile to prove their love to you or getting shitty parents by default.
Straight people have to adopt partners children also if we are allowed. Parents who go the extra mile make my heart swell, gay or straight. I’m no bigot. I’m not a shitty parent just because I’m straight like your implying. What’s beneficial for all children is to be loved and cared for. Your suggestion that My children aren’t as loved as a gay couple’s children is just hateful and absurd.
@@felicitycarter8120 they’re not saying all straight couples are terrible and your kids arnt loved, they are saying that they would rather have a happy gay couple, than a bad straight couple, not necessarily that straight couples are bad. i think you misunderstood :)
I too get bad anxiety dealing with the police. I don’t do anything illegal either. Also I used to be harassed by the police when I was a teenager and this one cop had the hots for me and then my brother was a trouble maker so the put me in the class as my brother.
It breaks my heart that gay couples are feeling under threat of having their own children taken away from them after Roe v Wade being overturned. Sending so much love and hope that these attacks on gay marriage don't go any further.
I love pickles, one of my favorite foods honestly. Any pickled Vegetables I am there for…unless I’m pregnant then the only thing I care about is the pickle brine.
@@mandachris7146 How so booboo? If a straight couple use a donor for whatever reason the parent who isn’t biologically related undergoes the adoption process. If a parent enters a relationship where the other party has a biological child they undergo the same process if they want to ensure that they remain that child’s parents should the relationship end. It’s NO different.
that's not a fair comparison because you're talking about step parents, that's different than a couple being married and having a child under that marriage, the difference here is that for straight couples under those circumstances, the birth certificate is enough, but for same sex couples is not, the law recognizes the person who carries the pregnancy as the legal parent, which means that even if Julia shared DNA with her son she would still have to adopt him, how many straight people you see adopting their bio children? probably none, so there's a huge difference here.
@@codename495 nope not the same. If two married people can put their names as parents for children that should be the same for same and different gender couples.
as a baby gay aspiring to have her own family one day you two are SO important. thank you.
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I love seeing these three. They always make my week.
I imagine your kids 8+ years in the future getting is an argument and saying "You're adopted!" "SO ARE YOU!"
😂😂
I've seen one other lesbian couple (Alyssa & Sam) on here going the adoption route. They even were able to show the court proceeding via zoom to complete the adoption. It's sad that it's needed, but am so very glad it's there for those that can and do use it. Good luck with everything. Bernie ❤
Having adoption as a backup plan is a smart move actually. Gonna keep this in the back of my mind.
I went through this 26 years ago with our first child. I felt just like you about having to spend thousands of dollars to “adopt” my own children. Sad to hear things haven’t changed.
Technically they have changed because she currently DOES have custody just like abbey but the fear is that may be overturned later :/
Julia eating pickles fresh out the jar is a big mood.
I wish in my country (Czechia) all of this would be even possible. Single woman or gay couples cannot go for ivf pregnancy, like you literally have to show up to the clinic with a man, you dont have to be married but you need to show up as a couple (real or not) man with woman, we dont have gay marriage (only registered partnership) and gay couples cannot adopt. I hope this changes soon. When I see your vlogs, people from UK or USA, I dont understand why it cannot be possible like that everywhere :(...your family is so sweet :)
Keep fighting! 💪 Wish you the best!
Even in uncivilized Russia we can do ivf if we don’t have a partner 😂 (I did it with the donor sperm, no one gives a fuck whether you have a man or not)
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I hope change comes to your country very soon and your dreams of having a family of your own come true. Wishing you every happiness. 🌈
It's kinda the same here in Hungary... :/
"I don't know who dada is, but I'm about to have a word with them" I CAN'T LMAOOO
I laughed when you said… “so I can adopt you”! 😂 A mother saying that to her own child is just wild.
This is so inspiring and totally understand your both covering yourself and this is just taking care of Harbor. Legally you’re looking after his future and making sure you both legally are his mothers. Enjoyed this video a lot and thank you so much for this informative video
Love the colour of the new couch!!
I avoided all of this when we went through reciprocal ivf. We drew up new paperwork with a lawyer through the clinic so that I retained my parental rights to the embryos and my wife also maintained parental rights so that we have equal care of the embryos and any subsequent children. Much cheaper on the back end.
Love both of your enthusiasm about everything you are a joy to watch
harbor : dada
julia : ...
julia : i don't know who 'dada' is. but i'm about have A WORD with them.
Rocking that middle part Julia! Looks lovely on you 😘 took me a while to get used to the middle part, but now I’ll never go back! 🤣
Everyone was having fun with me saying that im changing my furnitures decoration of my room a lot and i always have house decoration diy projects going on just like you guys 🥲 i feel less weird when im watching your videos everything about your life (being house project addict, being lesbian) makes me feel normal. Thank you seriously 💞🥺🥺 and lots of love to honey boy 💗💗
Black and white over the couch would look great! Either with art or photos 🥹
So glad you made this video to spread awareness so people know! 💖🌸 My wife and I will be starting the adoption process on our 8 month old daughter!
hope you guys are doing well at the moment, lots of love
I haven’t seen you all in my notifications in forever so glad to see you beautiful ladies and of course precious Harbor ❤️🥰
Love your videos. Good luck with the adoption process. I am happy for you both. Take care and be safe.👶👼🍼
Impatiently waiting for the next vlog!! Miss you guys!
I did not know you had to adopt! Thanks so much for sharing, I love y'all
WOW! I enjoyed ur update on the furniture! I never knew about the adoption part 4 u since u both a couple. I thought that by now u both be legally Harbor's parents but I guess it makes sense. I wonder if u could possibly elaborate what this process is all about. Anyway, it was nice 2 see a new video from u both! Love u all and God bless u all! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Omg hello, seeing your guy's vids make my day, and week too. I'm not alone anymore, and you've both helped me to continue believing in love. Harbor now too, he's grown so quickly! Resembles both of you :'>
Anyway, this'll be a great video!
I love your videos, such a sweet family 💜
Loving the new couch and video your content always is so wholesome love seeing new updates. Positive vibes always brings me a smile every time i watch new videos
It sounds like a tedious process to adopt harbor because ' legally ' you aren't his legal parent on documentation.. Laws seriously need to be changed
this sounds stupid that you have to adopt your own son simply because your a gay / lesbian couple.. I'd be pissed off too
Would love to see and know more of the process and whole thing! 😄💕
Finally see you guys i am so happy 😊😁
Thank-you for documenting this process and explaining why you’re doing it even though you’re on Harbor’s birth certificate. It’s so important to get that safety net as a gay couple right now, especially in the US. As much as we’d like to think that they’d never go as far as taking away the children of legitimate relationships, we all know better. As disgustingly wrong and unfair it is that you have to adopt your own son, it really is better to have that protection, given how people love to take away LGBTQ+ rights left right and centre.
1) Julia saying "if you are stealing supermarket you may have issues" sent me into a full laughing fit!
2) I Hella appreciate them talking about the adoption journey. I just assumed that when a couple went through donor/surrogacy that both parents had parental rights. I didnt knew adoption was even needed
My wife and I debate this ALL THE TIME! Our son is almost 5 and we were married before he was born, I’m also on his birth certificate…but damn do they like to threaten our rights 🙄
Genuinely may need to look into a lawyer! Thanks for the motivation 🙏🏼
Lol to the DaDa I blame Miss Rachel lol (the row row..... crocodile song proves it 😂) My son's 14 months Miss Rachel is amazing!!!
Thank you for sharing! It’s very helpful as a fellow gay! 🌈
So glad to see you again! It's so strange you have to adopt your son..he's literally here because you and Abbie made him together. The laws need to change. Having said that..my wife needs to adopt the children we have..insane to me
What a ridiculous archaic law.
@@ruthsikorski5495 it's to protect her rights so it's actually a good thing
"you could also hit him with a pillow" 🤣 i do this to all my baby cousins
your video are informative and fun. we will keep supporting you
Texture matters :)
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Best of success with the adoption! Unfortunate that you still have to undergo this procedure to have a safety net in the USA (the same also applies for Germany).
In Austria (luckily) if a child is born during a marriage (also same-sex), both parents automatically become legal parents.
Thanks for the update! 👍😘
Abbie and Julia is the best 🥰🥰
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Love you guys 💕
Julia is the coolest person I've ever known 😎 my idol ❤
Love you guys...
As the elder sister of two siblings, I think I can say with a firm belief at 5:49 harber wanted to know if she knew he could say "dada" probably since he calls both of them "mama" lol
I'm not homophobic, I myself am lesbian, I am just saying what I think was going on lmao
so glad that in finland it became a law that a baby can have two moms since birth
So when I got my divorce papers back from the attorney it had a celebrate sticker and I laughed so hard!
If it helps Julia I’m still trying to work out how the hell it’s august. Where did the time go?
Can you share why you need to adopt Harbor, why isn't he legally 'yours' through marriage? Just asking as in Ireland I don't need to adopt if my wife's going to give birth as long as we're married, I thought it's exactly the same in the US, isn't it? Keeping my fingers crossed everything will go well!
Same issue in Germany, in married lesbian couples, the one who did not give birth to the child has to adopt it. But, there are currently lesbian couples with kids trying to get that changed by the German Supreme Court. Hopefully, the US will get there one day as well. Good luck!
Try lemon pepper on your pickles...its fantastic.
Abbie loves you sincerely Julia and she never leave you or replace you if hottest girl came into your lives also she's sincere with you. Her world is you and harbour. I saw that type of love on abbie's eyes . She's perfect. I don't no you guys see this comment but I said this for you guys . She'll never leave you and take away harbour from you
I love abbie and julia easy soo much😍❤😍❤
Yess! I needed this!
My week has not been great!
I'm happy to see y'all!
Have a good week everyone ❤️✨
it’s monday tho 😭
@@mariananolasco2801 😭😭😭😭 ikr... pain noises
Hope things get better one day at a time and on really bad days five minutes at a time.
@@jamielatham5422 thank you for that. That makes things feel way more manageable
Good thing, you're safe now!
If a couple is using a donor that donors parental rights are already forfeit, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be a form just like unmarried straight couples.
Love watching your vlogs so much! I discovered your channel not that long ago, and I instantly fell in love with it! I come from a country where we are fighting a crazy government, the Russian government, a country, in which gay, transgender and non-binary people mold non commercial organizations all by themselves and they are pretty much capable of operating exclusively thanks to generous donations. So I'm delighted to hear that you can find your place and seek support and help here if you need it. Yet it's not state acknowledged and therefore lgbtq+ people can't express themselves freely. It would be really great to have it here like you do. Happy for your family, you are amazing!
Loveeee youuuuu guyss❤️❤️❤️❤️💘💘💘💘
So Cute Harbor And Nice Video
Love Abbie and Julia
God Bless To Your Family
❤️☺️🤣👍👍
Still Watching 2022
08-22-22
Monday
Where is your wig from?? It looks great!
Sending lots of love
Where did you start this process? Who did you contact first?
Maybe this has been stated in one of the content comments I don't know. But it goes to show you the commitment level of gay parents affirming their love for their children by having( a BS useless step but that's the law) the extra mile by adopting their own children. And yet these bigots argue straight couples are the only ones that should be able to have children because having children ownership by default is working out so well in many cases. hmmm I wonder what's more beneficial for a child's health parents that have to go an extra mile to prove their love to you or getting shitty parents by default.
Straight people have to adopt partners children also if we are allowed. Parents who go the extra mile make my heart swell, gay or straight. I’m no bigot. I’m not a shitty parent just because I’m straight like your implying. What’s beneficial for all children is to be loved and cared for. Your suggestion that My children aren’t as loved as a gay couple’s children is just hateful and absurd.
@@felicitycarter8120 they’re not saying all straight couples are terrible and your kids arnt loved, they are saying that they would rather have a happy gay couple, than a bad straight couple, not necessarily that straight couples are bad. i think you misunderstood :)
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Love your videos!!!♥️♥️💯
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no tv in the living room ???
That’s insane you have to adopt your own son he is both of you son the minute you decided to have a family he became your son
Hey I hope you are going good on your vlog
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I too get bad anxiety dealing with the police. I don’t do anything illegal either. Also I used to be harassed by the police when I was a teenager and this one cop had the hots for me and then my brother was a trouble maker so the put me in the class as my brother.
Did your area get any flooding in the last couple days?
Abby can u explain what ur beautiful tattoos mean in a video pls
They both did a tattoo tour a year or 2 ago! Look through their videos!
Do both of you get the same level of custody over Harbor?
I think I’ll be sad for the end of the green sofa era
It breaks my heart that gay couples are feeling under threat of having their own children taken away from them after Roe v Wade being overturned. Sending so much love and hope that these attacks on gay marriage don't go any further.
How do you find living in Utah and being surrounded by Mormons and their views on gay couples/being gay?
Girl, I am a black woman with federal clearance. I still shit my pants when I get pulled over. Police stations are supposed to be uninviting 🤭
Same😆😅
Keep ur finger prints and any paperwork. Make a book for Harbor
I’m confused ur adopting harbour to who??
Julia has to adopt him.
For security reasons. If A and J ever divorced she would be able to have parental rights
Julia to in all eyes of the law be recognized as an equal parent.
5:48 do i look-
Also julia you are looking ripped!
Oh yeah, 100% terrified every time I'm near a cop. I think it's being near someone who I know has a loaded gun and has probably shot at people before?
Where are the pranks
Im from Russia and women here mostly crave pickles only if they're pregnant...What are you hiding Julia?))))))) Love you guys so much ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
I love pickles, one of my favorite foods honestly. Any pickled Vegetables I am there for…unless I’m pregnant then the only thing I care about is the pickle brine.
This is no different then a straight couple where one has to adopt the bio kid of the other.
Yes it is different.
@@mandachris7146 no it isn’t. The non biological parent needs to protect themselves so they still have rights in case of a breakup.
@@mandachris7146 How so booboo? If a straight couple use a donor for whatever reason the parent who isn’t biologically related undergoes the adoption process. If a parent enters a relationship where the other party has a biological child they undergo the same process if they want to ensure that they remain that child’s parents should the relationship end. It’s NO different.
that's not a fair comparison because you're talking about step parents, that's different than a couple being married and having a child under that marriage, the difference here is that for straight couples under those circumstances, the birth certificate is enough, but for same sex couples is not, the law recognizes the person who carries the pregnancy as the legal parent, which means that even if Julia shared DNA with her son she would still have to adopt him, how many straight people you see adopting their bio children? probably none, so there's a huge difference here.
@@codename495 nope not the same. If two married people can put their names as parents for children that should be the same for same and different gender couples.
Me in my head trying to figure out how one would even orchestrate stealing sperm 🤔😂
Hi this is the first time I’m early.
Julia is pregnant. I know it lol 😍❤
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Yay! I’m early for once ☺️
That what me and Emilly my wife was mad about it made my want to shout what the FUCK! So mean
how did you find a lawyer for the adoption? i’m going to need to adopt my child and not sure where to start exactly.
Hope all your completed legal documents will complete your quest for final adoption of Harbor. Best wishes for all to go quickly.
Nice
Prank abbie..
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If u died. The child is going to who the parents of babies mom would fite for custody. Get this done.
Would love to only fear the police if I do something illegal, that's just not the experience of the majority of the country 😭
when are y'all haveing another baby