That may be so but there are many Catholics in public life who are deplorable. Including several members of the Supreme Court, commentators, and political operatives. I no longer celebrate that anyone in a position of power has Christian values until I see what they do.
Equality under God, but not equalitarianism. The existence of different classes of people, levels of wealth, knowledge and authority is part of the Catholic understand of an ordered society.
@@HoradrimBR That’s just an excuse to look away from rampant inequality. Yes, some will have more than others but institutionalising cannot be Catholic. You cannot force equality but we can make it easier for the poor to improve their circumstances. The kind of capitalism prevalent in the US exploits the poor. Poverty is a cause of too much dysfunctions in society.
What social order will there be when Putin is marching through Eastern Europe because Trump & Vance appease Putin putting to waste to all the money the USA has invested already in defeating the Anti Christ Putin.
@@melarrow6202- that’s because they are cultural Catholics and don’t follow church teachings. Just one example Biden supporting rove vs wade. You cannot be a Catholic and support abortion.
You are both spot on! As the Old Testament warns us repeatedly, "put no trust in princes" and "man is only a breath, an illusion". We can ONLY trust in God.
Recently, when I expressed some of my concerns regarding Vance's stance on abortion, I was accused of even being a Biden supporter. I was basically just told to shut up because it was ok for Vance to say what he needed to say - even if it went against Church Teachings - just to get elected. My response was that God acts when we show Faith - not fear. Fear of losing an election is not the answer for excusing evils put forth by politicians.
@@EpoRose1 The correct term is "poorly indoctrinated catholics" I was indoctrinated, but started thinking for myself. Thats when I left decades ago. The only teachings ANYONE needs are in Scripture.
@@donreinke5863Except that Jesus never said to write everything down. He DID establish a Church. And when “all we need is the Scriptures” comes about, you get at least hundreds- if not thousands- of denominations that can’t even agree if baptism is necessary! I am curious how much studying you did of your Catholic faith before you left the Church that Jesus established. Did you read the catechism? Early church fathers? I, too, was poorly catechized, but I studied my faith- and I’m still studying- before I looked at any other denominations, which again, can’t even agree on baptism… or “once saved, always saved…” or predestination…
As a devout Catholic my prayers have been heard in having our future VP being a Catholic! We are truly blessed! There is hope!🙏💕what’s more amazing is he is a convert and on fire!
Your blog and that of another on savior brings to mind a remark made many years ago by a spokesman of a post-WWII political party in Germany to be wary of any politician who comes on as a savior. (Just saying. No implication being made toward either Trump or Vance.) 🙂
He's a conservative Catholic. Those two are very very liberal. Catholicism is naturally conservative. The best definition is the Catholic is towards the Left on Labour (the old left not the weird iteration of the left today. IOW he supports the wages of the family man) and to the Right on Morals.
Both Gavin and Katherine speak with clarity. I hope many more will view. It seems it is comparing, measuring, whatever may be going on in the world with what God wants.🤔
Some great points. Think I have been guilty lately of toking myself unevenly with political solutions and the whole political evangelicalism scene and taking my spiritual eye off of God's sovereign will. Nice to finish of with a little humour with Dad:
Thank you for bringing up the "abortion pill" issue with JD Vance. As it happens, I have deep roots in the world of HILLBILLY ELEGY (in a sense a book that owes something to James Webb's BORN FIGHTING about the Scots Irish culture and its beginnings and development here in the States.) Abortion is THE moral issue of our time. My concern is that the Dobbs decision (brilliantly researched and written by Justice Alito) came too late. Abortion had nearly fifty years to become a norm in American life. I did not sense jubilation at the parish where I attend Mass. Every Sunday there is a prayer for peace at Mass but not one for the end of abortion in America. Thank you for this posting.
I seem to be on a journey from 'liberalism' to 'conservatism' in the non political sense and by tuning into Catholic Unscripted, it occurs to me that you're both acting as my midwives. Just about everything you say rubs me up the wrong way but I keep coming back to your channel with appalled fascination and after having watched your shows , I cannot deny that - so far - I have aways felt intellectually stimulated and more emotionally drawn into the Church.
The way the US constitution is set up, most things should be decided by individual states in the USA, including abortion and whether or not there is capital punishment.
Well...I agree with you _pragmatically,_ in view of how the U.S. population _currently_ thinks, and the way judicial precedent _currently_ stands. But arguably, 14th Amendment "Incorporation" doctrine applies every bit as much to Unborn Rights as it does to the rights of racial minorities: "No State shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Based on this amendment, even non-citizens ("any person") should have their right-to-life defended under the laws of each state, if even one person is so defended in that state. Of course, the current situation permits different states to adopt differing definitions of what qualifies as a "person," permitting unborn human beings to be excluded! But that situation is _unstable._ It relies upon the 14th Amendment not _already_ being "opinionated" as to the definition of the word "person" when that word is used in the text of the amendment, itself. Escaping "Incorporation" of the right-to-life for any group of persons requires the claim that the 14th doesn't _already limit_ states from including/excluding that group from being considered "persons." Now, you could never get away with state laws establishing (for example) that humans of a _particular skin color_ didn't qualify as humans. The 14th is one of the post-Civil-War "Reconstruction Amendments," and exists _for the explicit purpose_ of ensuring that enslaved persons are guaranteed the same rights in each state that the Federal constitution protects in all states. So: The 14th is already "opinionated." What remains is to establish what its "opinion" is, about the personhood of the unborn. Until birth, the unborn are _not_ considered _citizens_ of the United States: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But notice that the text acknowledges that _persons_ get born or naturalized. This allows for the possibility that they are _already_ "persons" prior to their birth, just as immigrants who become naturalized citizens are _already_ "persons" prior to their naturalization. At the _absolute minimum,_ it says they are "persons" from the moment of birth, and thus any post-birth "abortions" are simply instances of homicide. ...aaaaand, that's where things stand. The way the U.S. Constitution was set up _prior_ to 14th Amendment Incorporation meant that, as a principled constitutionalist, one was _required_ to relegate matters regarding abortion "to the States, respectively, or to the People." (Amendment 10.) But _after_ the 14th Amendment, and in the absence of _Roe,_ we've entered a limbo-state which will eventually require resolution.
Sr Nirmala MC, first successor to Mother Teresa after her death, was a Hindu convert. If Vance's wife is a deeply spiritual person she could comfortably convert - there is a long tradition of deep dialogue e.g Benedictines - Bede Griffith, Henri le Saux, Abbe Monanchin and, centuries before, the Jesuit Nobilini. Mahatma Gandhi had a profound respect for authentic Christianity as St John Paul II had for him as a holy man.
He is Catholic and wife and children are practicing Hindus. They gave been married for 10 years and they are still practicing Hindus hence the prayer to the pagan gods at the day 1 closing of the RNC Convention.
Race is not the issue. The differences in faith values is the problem. Also his main funder is Peter Theil not a good person. Look him up. So many other reasons are of concern. I am sitting this election out. Lastly, the RNC closed day 1 of their convention to pagan gods. There is only one God, the Holy Trinity. We must not compromise the Holy Trinity for any one or anything ever!
Kudos to Katherine getting the microphone out in a southern french cafés. It makes me wonder where you both love to holiday and which holy places you like to visit? 😊
France is a favourite, and we have visited some of the most beautiful cathedrals and churches here in previous years, but not with dad as his age makes it difficult to do anything that isn’t very local. We go to a pleasant NO mass in the village. Katherine and Marks family’s will be holidaying together in Gozo next month, so expect the microphone to appear again! 😄🙏
Katherine's Dad should be careful, I seem to remember some muslim ladies being arrested a few years ago by the Gendarmes for being on the beach with too many clothes on, this can only happen in France!
Yes,Gavin, that was Indeed very witty because of the precise perception lurking behind it and comunicated in a quip. It promises some political acumen and some non-misplaced, i.e., apt political irony. Happy to Salute You and if You make one more mention of Normandy, where You seem to be living since a while -as your background didn't chance to a different holiday stage- i Will then have to seek You out and pay You a visit as I only live a Belgium away....All the Best to You guys from CU.
If Katherine were Anglican and thus "naturally" open to the ministery of orders, I think she would make for a great bishop. But thank God she is Catholic, barred from orders, and thus only free to subject us to her relentless femininity in "ordinary" ways. One thing is to perceive the political and it's implcations for and relations with the supernatural, the other thing is to do polítics as a politician, even a decent Catholic promising one, because this politician, he or she, will have to get his/her hands dirty and we all know, as human Nature comes in two temperamental modes and dynamics, men tend to stand dirty hands somewhat better, though they also hope for clean water to come along, SO they can wash up and go further at the same thing but now with again clean hands...No offence😢
Spot on point about trying not to sanctify President Trump. Hope that it does not go to his head. But that it was a miracle is definitely beyond doubt. ❤
I just worry that the Roman Catholic Church will try to will through the Pope promote the Roman Catholic doctrines. As a Reformed Church Presbyterian, I abhor the Eucharist and the Mass, they oppose God's Word I believe that Christ sacrifice was a once and for all atonement for sin. Christ is the Mediator between God and man. We confess our our sins to the Father through Him. We don't need an earthly priest or Pope , Jesus is our HIGH PRIEST, and our Advocate. No bondage to Roman hierarchy!,
I hope the French appreciate Katherine's father and know Noel Coward's phrase ""Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun" (perhaps he can be an honourary Englishman at this moment!)
Vance is a NOMINAL Catholic at best and Trump is no man of God no matter how one shuffles the deck. Picking Vance is just a shameless ploy to bring in the Catholic vote. It's disgusting
Dear Katherine and Gavin could you please speak to the conversion therapy in detail. Its bloody hard navigating it all as a practicing psychotherapist!
It’s a political rather than a religious move, I suspect. Read his book. I wonder if his Indian wife will convert as well. They have three children. There’s more than a little guile in the man, despite his candid manner.
Because the attempt happened on July 13, I went to the Gospels and looked up all the 7:13’s. The gospel of John 7:13 (7:12-13), was spot on but in our time, it’s the progressives instead.
I don't think it's fair or prudent to knock Pence. I also think there is a danger of sanctifying Vance because he is a (newbie, let's face it) Catholic.
J D Vance says he will not be like Vice President Pence: Vance will certify false electors if Trump asks him to. What sort of Catholic is that? Is premeditated sin ok now, provided you are conservative?
John, you're claiming that Vance asserted he would certify "false" electors; i.e., electors that _he believed_ were not the correct ones. But Vance didn't use that term at all, nor did Trump ever ask Vice President Pence to certify "false" electors. Trump didn't even ask Vice President Pence to _not_ certify "true" electors. Trump asked Vice President Pence to delay certifying electors which Trump _believed_ to be false electors, until such time as their "false"/"true" status could be established _on the merits._ (This would require findings-of-fact which never yet occurred in the judicial systems of the courts of the relevant states, because the lawsuits were thrown out, _not_ because of any findings on the merits, but for procedural reasons; e.g., lack of standing.) Pence refused to do so, of course, because it would put the election timeline outside the Constitutional-and-legal timeline, posing a threat to the _ethos_ of "orderly transfer of power." I firmly believe Pence was _correct_ to take that approach, much as Nixon did he conceded to J.F.K. (In 1960, J.F.K.'s team "stole" the election with Lyndon Johnson's ballot-stuffing operation in Texas. This isn't widely recognized by the general public, but for those in the know, it's hard to dispute. Nixon sure as h*ll believed it was stolen.) Again: I think Pence did the right thing. BUT, the presumption that Pence couldn't have done otherwise without committing mortal sin presumes a _lot_ of facts not-in-evidence! ...and so would extending such a claim preemptively to Vance. When people claim that Trump was asking Pence to certify "false" electors, or to _not_ certify "true" electors, they are engaging in tendentious mind-reading: They're implicitly asserting that Trump's loud claims about the election proceeded not from _mistaken belief_ but _willful dishonesty._ To this day, there remains zero evidence that Trump believed he'd "actually" lost in the battleground states, where "actually" is defined as: If _only_ the legally-cast ballots were counted, and illegally-cast ballots were excluded. This, of course, is how nearly everyone thinks elections _should_ work, and how _most_ non-politician Americans believe that elections DO work! (Trump, although he'd been a politician for four years already, still hadn't learned better.) Apart from inexperience, Trump's other huge problem was that he was unable to have any experts in election law on his team; they all refused to work for/with him. He was stuck with Sidney Powell, who neither understood election law, nor had sufficient experience to recognize the various disinformation psyops levied against the Trump team to delay its legal challenges until time ran out. G.H.W. Bush, to name only one example, wouldn't have had that problem: He'd have had teams of lawyers in every state with lawsuits to prohibit the stage-setting that the DNC achieved with various Secretaries-of-State in the nine months prior to the election. An old CIA hand, he'd have dismissed all the dumb rumors about voting-machine software, and even the probably-correct-but-unlitigatable circumstantial evidence of ballot-stealing and ballot-stuffing. On Day One, he'd have started climbing the appeals-chain to establish standing for cases on the basis of irreparable harm (given the certification calendar). But that's "Insider Kung Fu." Trump, being a consummate Outsider, had no such Insider Kung Fu in his arsenal. Anyway, if Vance says something like, "I won't certify electors when the actual correct slate of electors is unknown and could possibly still be resolved," that would be an eminently reasonable thing to say. It wouldn't be a declaration of intent to "certify false electors," and certainly wouldn't be a mortal sin.
Katherine, take a day off. Switch off TH-cam and enjoy the south of France. I wonder what Fr Jason Charron, the Ukrainian Greek Catholic priest who led prayers at the Trump rally, makes of Vance. JD Vance has been one of the severest critics of US military aid to Ukraine.
Good point. He seems to think it’s possible to negotiate a deal with Putin. This is naive beyond belief. Going into negotiations from a position of “we don’t want a war” will be seen by Putin as weakness and he will take advantage of it.
Good. I very much value your videos, but we all need a break, including you. I'm off on pilgrimage next week to Durham and Northumberland, in the footsteps of the northern saints. No TH-cam or social media for a week. Bliss! @catholicunscripted
Just love it, your father's getup, Catherine; on the other hand, why not just whack your hair up in a classy French roll ? (Less distracting for the viewers....) Very best regards to you and Gavin (I'm in France too and love the Nordic summer except for what it's doing to my weggebobbles)
Trump picked him because Trump will only hire second rate people who MUST rely on Trump for everything and cannot be independent. Vance was a nobody, pulled out of nowhere by Trump to be a Senator from Ohio. While other Republicans (the governor, the other senators, etc) won their elections in Ohio by more than 20 points, Vance ran rather weakly winning only by 6 points. Without Trump's backing, he would have been nowhere. Trump refuses to have seasoned, competent people around him because they might object to some of his more daft moves. Trump is very weak that way. We used to have the best men we could find running the country. Now, the only qualification for office will be total, fanatical loyalty to Trump above all things. Vance is very ambitious, and has a good "story" but honestly he is not qualified to be Vice President. Since Obama, we have had a sea change in politics. Obama started elevating crass political hacks to major offices, and now Trump bypasses competence for personal loyalty. Not a good development. I do think that Vance might eventually get sick of being a lapdog to Trump, and will rebel a bit. He has that shred of dignity left, and may have some spine left. Of course, Biden and Kamala are ten thousand times worse, but still. It would be nice to have competence back in government.
have you checked Vance's history??? BEFORE hailing him? Please do research before . Not suggesting negative but seems like good journalism. Politicians are notoriously fickle
Catholic values promote social order and equality. The world needs them most.
That may be so but there are many Catholics in public life who are deplorable. Including several members of the Supreme Court, commentators, and political operatives. I no longer celebrate that anyone in a position of power has Christian values until I see what they do.
Equality under God, but not equalitarianism. The existence of different classes of people, levels of wealth, knowledge and authority is part of the Catholic understand of an ordered society.
@@HoradrimBR That’s just an excuse to look away from rampant inequality. Yes, some will have more than others but institutionalising cannot be Catholic. You cannot force equality but we can make it easier for the poor to improve their circumstances. The kind of capitalism prevalent in the US exploits the poor. Poverty is a cause of too much dysfunctions in society.
What social order will there be when Putin is marching through Eastern Europe because Trump & Vance appease Putin putting to waste to all the money the USA has invested already in defeating the Anti Christ Putin.
@@melarrow6202- that’s because they are cultural Catholics and don’t follow church teachings. Just one example Biden supporting rove vs wade. You cannot be a Catholic and support abortion.
Until America chooses Christ first - instead of American first the crisis will continue! Logos is the foundation of civilization!
You are right
You are both spot on! As the Old Testament warns us repeatedly, "put no trust in princes" and "man is only a breath, an illusion". We can ONLY trust in God.
Recently, when I expressed some of my concerns regarding Vance's stance on abortion, I was accused of even being a Biden supporter. I was basically just told to shut up because it was ok for Vance to say what he needed to say - even if it went against Church Teachings - just to get elected. My response was that God acts when we show Faith - not fear. Fear of losing an election is not the answer for excusing evils put forth by politicians.
Was it by fellow Catholics or non-Catholics? Or poorly catechized Catholics, or “CINOs?”’Hopefully he will learn more about his faith.
you've a great strong faith.....great........thanks
@@EpoRose1 The correct term is "poorly indoctrinated catholics"
I was indoctrinated, but started thinking for myself.
Thats when I left decades ago.
The only teachings ANYONE needs are in Scripture.
@@donreinke5863Except that Jesus never said to write everything down. He DID establish a Church. And when “all we need is the Scriptures” comes about, you get at least hundreds- if not thousands- of denominations that can’t even agree if baptism is necessary! I am curious how much studying you did of your Catholic faith before you left the Church that Jesus established. Did you read the catechism? Early church fathers? I, too, was poorly catechized, but I studied my faith- and I’m still studying- before I looked at any other denominations, which again, can’t even agree on baptism… or “once saved, always saved…” or predestination…
Pick up Johannes Quasten's Patrology on the Church Fathers. It's an eye opener.@@donreinke5863
As a devout Catholic my prayers have been heard in having our future VP being a Catholic! We are truly blessed! There is hope!🙏💕what’s more amazing is he is a convert and on fire!
He has a Hindu wife !!!
Our Lord had a Jewish mother.@@janicewilliams2922
JD Vance is a convert; that’s the opposite of Mike Pence. 😆
Trump mocked Mike Pence's Christian faith. I bet Trump will attack JD's faith as well.
@@roddumlauf9241i doubt that. The Donald will surprise a lot of people his next four years.
@@majorpuggington Doubt what ? Listen to Mike Pence himself in interviews on how Trump treated Pence's Christianity
@@roddumlauf9241that’s a lie. Trump never did that.
@@roddumlauf9241 Pence's evangelicalism? Was Trump spared by God as a blessing or a chastisement? Fiat. God's Will be done.
Katherine you said it only only our Lord can save us.❤❤❤
Your blog and that of another on savior brings to mind a remark made many years ago by a spokesman of a post-WWII political party in Germany to be wary of any politician who comes on as a savior. (Just saying. No implication being made toward either Trump or Vance.) 🙂
Hope Vance is a better Catholic then Biden and Pelosi?
He is a convert so probably.
Being Catholic doesn't mean much these days. Plus Trump compares himself to Reagan. He use the Evangelical vote to win it is a fact.
That woulldn't be too difficult!
He's a conservative Catholic. Those two are very very liberal. Catholicism is naturally conservative.
The best definition is the Catholic is towards the Left on Labour (the old left not the weird iteration of the left today.
IOW he supports the wages of the family man) and to the Right on Morals.
Biden really isn’t a Catholic and in regard to the Catholic faith he is excommunicated and not a Catholic!
"...but the souls of unborn babies do not belong to Caesar !!!".............what a gem💠💠💠💠💠
Both Gavin and Katherine speak with clarity. I hope many more will view. It seems it is comparing, measuring, whatever may be going on in the world with what God wants.🤔
Intelligent and polite conversation. Leave it to the Brits.
Spot on about Dave Rubin. He’s a good talker and says all the right things but purchasing a baby with his ‘husband’??? Has to be called out.
As a Lutheran, wth deep respect for the Catholic Church, I was greatly encouraged to hear JD is a Catholic. Cheers to you both!!
@@ThomasSimmons-u5x As a Catholic, I wish JD Vance was anything but Catholic.
Converts make the very best Catholics aka in G K Chesterton.
His acceptance of the abortion pill is not a trivial thing. It is absolutely anti-Catholic.
We are entitled, no, obliged to support truth no matter who speaks it, when spoken, and where ever spoken.
Marvellous. Ave Maria.
Yes....sanctifying Trump ! Drives me crazy....all kinds of symbolic meaning is out there.....putting God & Our Lady firmly on his side !
Love your show…it’s simple, beautiful, honest and Catholic. Thank you
From Perth, Western Australia
Thank you 🙏
Me too.
You look very relaxed, Katherine.
Some great points. Think I have been guilty lately of toking myself unevenly with political solutions and the whole political evangelicalism scene and taking my spiritual eye off of God's sovereign will.
Nice to finish of with a little humour with Dad:
Thanks for watching John 🙏
You all are awsome ❤❤❤
Love listening to Englishmen discussing American politics. 😊
Christ alone. Amen. This idolatry is shocking frankly. The media is only helping.
JDV is a breath of very fresh exhilarating air
Thank you for bringing up the "abortion pill" issue with JD Vance. As it happens, I have deep roots in the world of HILLBILLY ELEGY (in a sense a book that owes something to James Webb's BORN FIGHTING about the Scots Irish culture and its beginnings and development here in the States.) Abortion is THE moral issue of our time. My concern is that the Dobbs decision (brilliantly researched and written by Justice Alito) came too late. Abortion had nearly fifty years to become a norm in American life. I did not sense jubilation at the parish where I attend Mass. Every Sunday there is a prayer for peace at Mass but not one for the end of abortion in America. Thank you for this posting.
I seem to be on a journey from 'liberalism' to 'conservatism' in the non political sense and by tuning into Catholic Unscripted, it occurs to me that you're both acting as my midwives. Just about everything you say rubs me up the wrong way but I keep coming back to your channel with appalled fascination and after having watched your shows , I cannot deny that - so far - I have aways felt intellectually stimulated and more emotionally drawn into the Church.
The way the US constitution is set up, most things should be decided by individual states in the USA, including abortion and whether or not there is capital punishment.
Well...I agree with you _pragmatically,_ in view of how the U.S. population _currently_ thinks, and the way judicial precedent _currently_ stands.
But arguably, 14th Amendment "Incorporation" doctrine applies every bit as much to Unborn Rights as it does to the rights of racial minorities: "No State shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Based on this amendment, even non-citizens ("any person") should have their right-to-life defended under the laws of each state, if even one person is so defended in that state.
Of course, the current situation permits different states to adopt differing definitions of what qualifies as a "person," permitting unborn human beings to be excluded!
But that situation is _unstable._ It relies upon the 14th Amendment not _already_ being "opinionated" as to the definition of the word "person" when that word is used in the text of the amendment, itself. Escaping "Incorporation" of the right-to-life for any group of persons requires the claim that the 14th doesn't _already limit_ states from including/excluding that group from being considered "persons."
Now, you could never get away with state laws establishing (for example) that humans of a _particular skin color_ didn't qualify as humans. The 14th is one of the post-Civil-War "Reconstruction Amendments," and exists _for the explicit purpose_ of ensuring that enslaved persons are guaranteed the same rights in each state that the Federal constitution protects in all states.
So: The 14th is already "opinionated." What remains is to establish what its "opinion" is, about the personhood of the unborn.
Until birth, the unborn are _not_ considered _citizens_ of the United States: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But notice that the text acknowledges that _persons_ get born or naturalized. This allows for the possibility that they are _already_ "persons" prior to their birth, just as immigrants who become naturalized citizens are _already_ "persons" prior to their naturalization. At the _absolute minimum,_ it says they are "persons" from the moment of birth, and thus any post-birth "abortions" are simply instances of homicide.
...aaaaand, that's where things stand.
The way the U.S. Constitution was set up _prior_ to 14th Amendment Incorporation meant that, as a principled constitutionalist, one was _required_ to relegate matters regarding abortion "to the States, respectively, or to the People." (Amendment 10.)
But _after_ the 14th Amendment, and in the absence of _Roe,_ we've entered a limbo-state which will eventually require resolution.
A Catholic married to a Hindu: how are his children being raised?
As Harry Potterites.
Good question, he only converted in 2019 as a 34 year old.
Sr Nirmala MC, first successor to Mother Teresa after her death, was a Hindu convert. If Vance's wife is a deeply spiritual person she could comfortably convert - there is a long tradition of deep dialogue e.g Benedictines - Bede Griffith, Henri le Saux, Abbe Monanchin and, centuries before, the Jesuit Nobilini. Mahatma Gandhi had a profound respect for authentic Christianity as St John Paul II had for him as a holy man.
Is it any of your or our business
@@jenyoung2473 absolutely.
Tres Bien. Prayers for J.D. Vance. He will really need it, along with Trump.
Well said! Thank you, both.
Thank you for watching 🙏
The enemy of your enemy is not in all ways your friend, right?
I’m a Catholic convert, too, and there’s no way I’d vote for either him or Trump.
If you vote Democrat you are not a true Catholic. True Catholics do not vote for abortion and promote sexual perversion
He is Catholic and wife and children are practicing Hindus. They gave been married for 10 years and they are still practicing Hindus hence the prayer to the pagan gods at the day 1 closing of the RNC Convention.
Well the first problem is he married outside of his race.
Race is not the issue. The differences in faith values is the problem. Also his main funder is Peter Theil not a good person. Look him up. So many other reasons are of concern. I am sitting this election out. Lastly, the RNC closed day 1 of their convention to pagan gods. There is only one God, the Holy Trinity. We must not compromise the Holy Trinity for any one or anything ever!
Pakistan does have nuclear weapons.
Correct.
@@garyhaynes6469 it's run by the USA so they are pretending it's not an Islamist state (just muslim)
So does France!
He mentioned about Pakistan too
Most of us support trump 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 nigel farage
Katharine, I think I'd love your Dad. He sounds delightful.
We all need an early delivery of pope PIZZA asap!!
A pleasure as always listening to you both
Thank you 🙏
Very well put. Thank you.
Kudos to Katherine getting the microphone out in a southern french cafés. It makes me wonder where you both love to holiday and which holy places you like to visit? 😊
France is a favourite, and we have visited some of the most beautiful cathedrals and churches here in previous years, but not with dad as his age makes it difficult to do anything that isn’t very local. We go to a pleasant NO mass in the village. Katherine and Marks family’s will be holidaying together in Gozo next month, so expect the microphone to appear again! 😄🙏
Oh, please show us a picture of your da, Catherine 😅 He sounds wonderful.
Thanks for your honest commentary.
Your dad sounds lovely ❤
He really is 🙏
I think I would really like your father, Katherine !
He is a warm hearted, gentleman 🙏
I like Vance…and I’m praying for him.🙏
Spot on comments Katherine.
From what I know so far I like him a lot.
I say he is more pro life than he is letting on. 🙏 For JD Vance
I read somewhere he supports the abortion pill. I hope it's not true.
@@maryrotz2636 I don't know if he does but I don't want the Democrats to get control of the Supreme Court.
Pray for him
Mormor is his maternal grandmother. His mother’s mother.
Love the French in the background katherine
Glad you enjoyed. Praise be Jesus for every good thing 🙏
Katherine's Dad should be careful, I seem to remember some muslim ladies being arrested a few years ago by the Gendarmes for being on the beach with too many clothes on, this can only happen in France!
Great video, thank you,
Certainly it is neither witty nor Christian to denigrate Moslems in England.
Yes,Gavin, that was Indeed very witty because of the precise perception lurking behind it and comunicated in a quip. It promises some political acumen and some non-misplaced, i.e., apt political irony. Happy to Salute You and if You make one more mention of Normandy, where You seem to be living since a while -as your background didn't chance to a different holiday stage- i Will then have to seek You out and pay You a visit as I only live a Belgium away....All the Best to You guys from CU.
If Katherine were Anglican and thus "naturally" open to the ministery of orders, I think she would make for a great bishop. But thank God she is Catholic, barred from orders, and thus only free to subject us to her relentless femininity in "ordinary" ways. One thing is to perceive the political and it's implcations for and relations with the supernatural, the other thing is to do polítics as a politician, even a decent Catholic promising one, because this politician, he or she, will have to get his/her hands dirty and we all know, as human Nature comes in two temperamental modes and dynamics, men tend to stand dirty hands somewhat better, though they also hope for clean water to come along, SO they can wash up and go further at the same thing but now with again clean hands...No offence😢
Spot on point about trying not to sanctify President Trump. Hope that it does not go to his head. But that it was a miracle is definitely beyond doubt. ❤
It’s only beyond doubt if you heard it from God. The man could just as easily have had diabolical protection.
I just worry that the
Roman Catholic Church
will try to will through
the Pope promote the
Roman Catholic doctrines.
As a Reformed Church
Presbyterian, I abhor the
Eucharist and the Mass,
they oppose God's Word
I believe that Christ sacrifice
was a once and for all
atonement for sin. Christ is
the Mediator between God
and man. We confess our
our sins to the Father through
Him. We don't need an earthly
priest or Pope , Jesus is our
HIGH PRIEST, and our Advocate.
No bondage to Roman hierarchy!,
CORRECT REASONING.
Great video!
Your dad sounds like mine Katherine!
I hope the French appreciate Katherine's father and know Noel Coward's phrase ""Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun" (perhaps he can be an honourary Englishman at this moment!)
Vance is a NOMINAL Catholic at best and Trump is no man of God no matter how one shuffles the deck. Picking Vance is just a shameless ploy to bring in the Catholic vote. It's disgusting
Dear Katherine and Gavin could you please speak to the conversion therapy in detail. Its bloody hard navigating it all as a practicing psychotherapist!
Will do our best. It is likely something that we will revisit as things progress
@@catholicunscripted Cheers, it's coming to the end of times to assist people legally
Your father sounds amazing!!
It’s a political rather than a religious move, I suspect. Read his book. I wonder if his Indian wife will convert as well. They have three children. There’s more than a little guile in the man, despite his candid manner.
😂 rowe v Wade was a constitutional ruling.
No. This isn’t going end well for Catholicism.
In the U.S.? And Catholicism has thrived under Obama and Biden...
Because the attempt happened on July 13, I went to the Gospels and looked up all the 7:13’s. The gospel of John 7:13 (7:12-13), was spot on but in our time, it’s the progressives instead.
Brought up by his mawmaw (granny) cause his mother was a drug addict.
He’s Catholic? Really? Could have fooled me. He’s in a mixed marriage. When did he convert?
He met his wife at Yale law. Married 2014, became Catholic 2019.
What did you say in French. Going there soon and all I could understand was toujours!
I don't think it's fair or prudent to knock Pence. I also think there is a danger of sanctifying Vance because he is a (newbie, let's face it) Catholic.
J D Vance says he will not be like Vice President Pence: Vance will certify false electors if Trump asks him to. What sort of Catholic is that? Is premeditated sin ok now, provided you are conservative?
He never said he would certify false electors if Trump asks him to. Calumny is a sin!
John, you're claiming that Vance asserted he would certify "false" electors; i.e., electors that _he believed_ were not the correct ones.
But Vance didn't use that term at all, nor did Trump ever ask Vice President Pence to certify "false" electors. Trump didn't even ask Vice President Pence to _not_ certify "true" electors. Trump asked Vice President Pence to delay certifying electors which Trump _believed_ to be false electors, until such time as their "false"/"true" status could be established _on the merits._ (This would require findings-of-fact which never yet occurred in the judicial systems of the courts of the relevant states, because the lawsuits were thrown out, _not_ because of any findings on the merits, but for procedural reasons; e.g., lack of standing.)
Pence refused to do so, of course, because it would put the election timeline outside the Constitutional-and-legal timeline, posing a threat to the _ethos_ of "orderly transfer of power." I firmly believe Pence was _correct_ to take that approach, much as Nixon did he conceded to J.F.K. (In 1960, J.F.K.'s team "stole" the election with Lyndon Johnson's ballot-stuffing operation in Texas. This isn't widely recognized by the general public, but for those in the know, it's hard to dispute. Nixon sure as h*ll believed it was stolen.)
Again: I think Pence did the right thing. BUT, the presumption that Pence couldn't have done otherwise without committing mortal sin presumes a _lot_ of facts not-in-evidence! ...and so would extending such a claim preemptively to Vance.
When people claim that Trump was asking Pence to certify "false" electors, or to _not_ certify "true" electors, they are engaging in tendentious mind-reading: They're implicitly asserting that Trump's loud claims about the election proceeded not from _mistaken belief_ but _willful dishonesty._ To this day, there remains zero evidence that Trump believed he'd "actually" lost in the battleground states, where "actually" is defined as: If _only_ the legally-cast ballots were counted, and illegally-cast ballots were excluded. This, of course, is how nearly everyone thinks elections _should_ work, and how _most_ non-politician Americans believe that elections DO work! (Trump, although he'd been a politician for four years already, still hadn't learned better.)
Apart from inexperience, Trump's other huge problem was that he was unable to have any experts in election law on his team; they all refused to work for/with him. He was stuck with Sidney Powell, who neither understood election law, nor had sufficient experience to recognize the various disinformation psyops levied against the Trump team to delay its legal challenges until time ran out.
G.H.W. Bush, to name only one example, wouldn't have had that problem: He'd have had teams of lawyers in every state with lawsuits to prohibit the stage-setting that the DNC achieved with various Secretaries-of-State in the nine months prior to the election. An old CIA hand, he'd have dismissed all the dumb rumors about voting-machine software, and even the probably-correct-but-unlitigatable circumstantial evidence of ballot-stealing and ballot-stuffing. On Day One, he'd have started climbing the appeals-chain to establish standing for cases on the basis of irreparable harm (given the certification calendar).
But that's "Insider Kung Fu." Trump, being a consummate Outsider, had no such Insider Kung Fu in his arsenal.
Anyway, if Vance says something like, "I won't certify electors when the actual correct slate of electors is unknown and could possibly still be resolved," that would be an eminently reasonable thing to say.
It wouldn't be a declaration of intent to "certify false electors," and certainly wouldn't be a mortal sin.
Trump is Ashenden's fellow devotee of Queen Lillibet II.
Katherine, take a day off. Switch off TH-cam and enjoy the south of France.
I wonder what Fr Jason Charron, the Ukrainian Greek Catholic priest who led prayers at the Trump rally, makes of Vance. JD Vance has been one of the severest critics of US military aid to Ukraine.
Thanks Edward. My family were sitting just metres away, enjoying a cool lemonade, before a trip to Gassin for an ice cream 🙏
Good point. He seems to think it’s possible to negotiate a deal with Putin.
This is naive beyond belief.
Going into negotiations from a position of “we don’t want a war” will be seen by Putin as weakness and he will take advantage of it.
Good. I very much value your videos, but we all need a break, including you. I'm off on pilgrimage next week to Durham and Northumberland, in the footsteps of the northern saints. No TH-cam or social media for a week. Bliss! @catholicunscripted
Just love it, your father's getup, Catherine; on the other hand, why not just whack your hair up in a classy French roll ? (Less distracting for the viewers....) Very best regards to you and Gavin (I'm in France too and love the Nordic summer except for what it's doing to my weggebobbles)
Trump picked him because Trump will only hire second rate people who MUST rely on Trump for everything and cannot be independent. Vance was a nobody, pulled out of nowhere by Trump to be a Senator from Ohio. While other Republicans (the governor, the other senators, etc) won their elections in Ohio by more than 20 points, Vance ran rather weakly winning only by 6 points. Without Trump's backing, he would have been nowhere. Trump refuses to have seasoned, competent people around him because they might object to some of his more daft moves. Trump is very weak that way. We used to have the best men we could find running the country. Now, the only qualification for office will be total, fanatical loyalty to Trump above all things. Vance is very ambitious, and has a good "story" but honestly he is not qualified to be Vice President. Since Obama, we have had a sea change in politics. Obama started elevating crass political hacks to major offices, and now Trump bypasses competence for personal loyalty. Not a good development. I do think that Vance might eventually get sick of being a lapdog to Trump, and will rebel a bit. He has that shred of dignity left, and may have some spine left. Of course, Biden and Kamala are ten thousand times worse, but still. It would be nice to have competence back in government.
You haven't read his autobiography, have you? But you certainly have a fatal case of TDS.
So Vance is a lousy choice compared to all the corrupt politocal insiders the other billionaires tried to force on Trump so they can Pence him again?
You must be a laff riot at parties
Despise?????
I’m not listening to your FAKE VIDEO.
Bye 👋
Catherine, you seem distracted. I'll pray for you. Where are your glasses?
Mopeds and crowds making noise she said.
Glasses abandoned for lenses which mean I can wear sunglasses. Do not fear, they’ll be back! ☺️🙏
his wife is hindu, what about his children ?
Trump tells the truth ? !
Is his wife Catholic too?
Hindu.
is he pro ivf ?
If you mean Vance, he doesn't seem to be against it. Nor Trump.
@@billmonteith1161 trump loves it
have you checked Vance's history??? BEFORE hailing him? Please do research before . Not suggesting negative but seems like good journalism. Politicians are notoriously fickle