The FOUR Steps to make Sand Riding Achievable | MiniTip Monday
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This was super helpful!
- Mark, very-average GS rider.
Glad Mark!
"Go fast, take chances" got me into a whole world of trouble riding a GS on the TET. I've since learned my lesson. Another great tip, thanks.
🤣🤣 At least the lesson has been learnt!
I just moved to Mexico and now have no choice but to ride sand on the regular. Thanks for this! At first it was terrifying but practicing the techniques you list here has made it so much better. Still intimidating but with more practice getting better by the ride.
I bet. Awesome job on making progress. I find it intimidating too. We don't have a ton of it here in the UK and it always takes time get it sorted.👌
@@BrakeMagazine Come visit! We'll get you lots of practice and the Baja is beautiful to ride. ☺ Really enjoy your channel. Thanks for all your hard work!
Wait, the Baja. YES. Just gotta find a flight and a bike.
@@BrakeMagazine Can't help with the flight but I can definitely get you a bike. Swing on by!
@@BrakeMagazineYou can rent any bike you could dream of in Arizona. Then ride down.
Great video. Thank you for making this series!
🙏 Pleasure
As always brilliant video and very well explained. I'm convinced my off road skills have improved because I listen and watch your channel. Thank you.
Thanks!
Great advice,as usual, thanks!
Cheers Dan
You have to learn to trust a light front wheel, and ride the rear. Really helps to keep some throttle on most of the time, use the sand drag for most braking, and find the position where the bike pivot in yaw is right between your lower legs, so you can respond immediately, and gain confidence. Like your legs are chopsticks, at the thinnest part, usually. get there, weight back, even throttle, trust the front. Practice!!
Amen
I’ll go 2.0 to protect the rims. One time at Baja Rally nav school there was this long sandy uphill and I had to to 1 bar on the back
this video was released perfect timing✌️
I've been riding 890 Adventure R in Moab for past few days, and the sand of dry river bed in Moab area is brutal!
Thanks for the tips!
Where I live I never experience sand, however,
I rode the TAT ending in Oregon and then came back from Barstow to Vegas through some very deep sand.
Riding a T7.. I put my weight back and by third gear I was up on plane.
My biggest problem was corners. When I let off the throttle the front tire with sink a foot into the sand. I would nearly lose it, and have to accelerate hard to get back on top.
That deep sand really wore me out.
After about 60 miles I felt like I started getting the hang of it, but still never felt real confident
Next time I come across Sand, I will try the rear brake and immediately accelerate again.
Thanks
Hope it helps with the confidence. 😊👌
How come you publish shortly after I just spent 10 days riding in the desert?! 😂 Great video chap. Particularly liked the part about finding a steady throttle point, and how the body position is not just back, but constantly changing 👍🏻
I do it just to be mean 😂
Your vid’s and my training with those in mind have truly improved my skills. Anyhow, I see you’re running on karoo4’s. Your opinion about those on gravel /tarmac?
Good vid! I loved sand on mx bikes but I'm finding after a long brake from bikes the KLR I bought is a whole different bike in the sand.
The big bikes are... interesting compared to the MX bike 🤣
Added humour and business-good stuff!
🤣 Tryna have a little fun here at least!
@@BrakeMagazine Keep it up
Southern California rider here. Sand is unavoidable in these parts if you are going to ride off road. It's been a struggle for me as I am relatively new to dirt and in my 60s. Majority of my riding has been on an older R1200GS, and an even older XR650L I bought for training purposes. This past year, I swapped the GS for a 2021 Tiger 900 Rally Pro and after some adjustment, it has transformed my riding. The slightly lower weight helps, but it really came down to a 21" front wheel. Sand is still a challenge, but the new bike is easier enough to ride in it, that my confidence in increased and my anxiety decreased.
As much as I am a GS fan for a lot of ADV rising, in the sand it is a pig. Glad you like the Tiger. 👌
Great video! Could you clarify one point? You mention that low PSI helps keep tire above sand by widening contact patch and also mention that the wider 19 gets pulled around more. I know why 21s are way better in typical off-road conditions and obstacles, just curious about this point on sand.
I don't know why it happens. The width of the tyre makes a difference but I don't know the science.
On a practical level it feels easier to keep the bike going straight, it knifes into the sand less. I would say primarily sand and ruts are the main area that 21s are better. On good ground the difference is a lot less.
@@BrakeMagazine thank you! Your videos are incredible for someone just getting started in the adventure world. I’m guessing rake and trail is significantly different on 21 vs 19” bikes too. Appreciate it.
This was a good one.
Cheers Kiwidean!
Teşekkürler.
❤️
Another excellent video Llel!
So I have a question - I’ve watched all of your videos and I’ve never heard you mention gripping in the bike with your legs as a que to riding standing up. I’m very curious to why really, not saying it’s the right or wrong way, just heard a lot of instructors say it.
Personally it’s one of the best tips I’ve ever got for my offroad riding.
Hey Johannes,
That is a great question. There are a few reasons, but like you say, it's an important part of riding. The reason I don't talk about it in general standing technique is that I don't consider it important to good standing position basics.
I think it's really important for keeping up with the bike when accelerating and on an enduro/dual sport great for keeping the bike tracking straight. I have found when teaching though, that it's really common for people to grip the bike in an off-balance position, or to confuse squeezing the bike for pushing their knees onto the tank for balance.
If used right I agree, it's transformative and if used poorly it's a crutch. Might make a video about this now :)
Thanks a lot for the reply!
Very interesting topic and would love to hear you dig deeper into this in a video.
I started enduro riding a month ago, and the first few practices I was almost ‘too married’ to the concept of gripping the bike, because it had previously been so helpful (on an adventure bike going faster on gravel). When I relaxed a bit I got better at balancing the slower, more technical stuff. Goes to show the standing position is a dynamic thing. I definitely used it poorly to begin with at the enduro track, but things are coming along. I often find myself thinking very black or white, this or that, when it’s usually a combination. Knowing when to do what seems to be very important 😁
@@JohannesDalen Exactly. Generally as a rule, I find that the more technical and slower you go, the less gripping the bike applies. The faster, and more you don't want the bike moving the better, but as you say; it's quite a dynamic thing.
Try 1.8 and in deep sand down to 1.6 bar front and rear preassure. The 1.8 bar is a good compromise for the ADV rider, if you have to switch between on and offroad riding frequently. But in the end… tire pressure on big bikes seems to be like a religion: it is all about believing or not. 😂
That last statement is the truest thing I've heard to day 😂
Yeah for mostly road tire oriented tires 1.6-2.0 are good numbers to stay at and not bother.
On my at im at 1.6front and 2.0rear as constant. Dont see any ill effects onroad and soft front provides really good grip offroad.
If you have knobby up front tho i dont think u need to go below 1.8
Also what i learned is there are no universal numbers. I had tires on my ktm950 which were literally unrideable on low pressure, had better grip on higher... Who tf can guess those thongs 😂 you just have to try diff setups and feel difference
Llel..... I wish you didn't use the term "Airing Down"..... What comes next? a slick helmet/cap change? 😁🤣🤣
I wish I didn't use it too. 🤣 I just bought My first flat cap though 😏
@@BrakeMagazine 😁🤣🤣 As always, good informative video though🙂
My man needs a good barber 😛
🤣🤣 Was looking fluffy for this one 😅
Now, how do you ride sand and deep gravel two up on a big GS? 😂
Pray. 🤣
May as well, nothing else seems to work.😮
Please, please, Please! In most areas of U.S. operating a vehicle inside the high water marks of rivers, streams and lakes is Pohibited. They are environmentally sensitive areas. Come on off-roaders we are all under attack because some of us indiscriminately ride in sensitive areas where we know we shouldn’t be.
Tim, this was filmed in Portugal.
@@BrakeMagazine Thanks. I assumed that it wasn’t England but regardless, when one presents themselves as expert foolish minds accept everything you say as the truth. Ergo, if I want to learn how to ride in sand, etc. I should go to my local river and do what Lliel does. If you’re going to be an expert in off-road riding then you should also be an expert at where one should/shouldn’t ride. This is the 21st century and it goes with your territory. Sorry for the ranting. I do enjoy your videos.
Hi what is your channel about motorcycles or you talking 5 minutes before we see the bike get a grip your about motorcycles not you yaking 😮
Man this triggered me hard 😂
A 600 lbs plus motorcycle is garbage. Riding a 600 lbs motorcycle off-road is moronic.
You don't comment enough Boba Milk Tea. Please send me more of these. 🤣
@@BrakeMagazine You’re welcome. I will continue to call bullshit when I see it. Are You getting paid by the manufacturer too? You know full well 90% of your viewers don’t take their GS off road.
@@LuckyNikitaBoba You are joking right? 🤣 do you think with 80k subscribers BMW gives a shit about me or my audience? 🤣
Ohh i just fookin love trolls like that. Did you get a booboo on big bike and now your feelings are hurt?
🤣🤣🤣
I have spent plenty of enjoyable days off road on a GS .
It’s a surprisingly capable off road bike, even for an average rider like me.
The stability and supple suspension, plus some smart electronics, plus a flexible engine is a great combination.
I’m not trying to win a Dakar rally, but the GS can certainly go a lot of places that are remote and beautiful, Wales, Portugal etc