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  • The most powerful person on the left of British politics is not Keir Starmer. So who is it?
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    This week the New Statesman published the 2024 Left Power List, which ranks the 50 most influential people in British politics. George Eaton edited the list and joins Hannah Barnes and Freddie Hayward on the New Statesman podcast to discuss who's up, who's down, and what their influence means for the general election.
    Hannah, Freddie and George also discuss the latest events from the general election campaigns including Vaughan Gethin's confidence vote, more questionable Tory donations and Ed Davey's moving campaign video.
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  • @darraghmcelroy9698
    @darraghmcelroy9698 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    The Walkers' Crisps man is the icon of the British Left?
    The Overton Window in England is insane.

    • @Visherex
      @Visherex 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Tbh, as a dedicated lefty for a while, and become more reasonable with age, yes its pretty nuts atm. Got labour being the tories, and the torys and reform fighting over the MAGA/reform slot

    • @methanedirigible
      @methanedirigible 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you got a condition that stops you from using proper nouns?!

    • @quintuscrinis8032
      @quintuscrinis8032 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He is more well known in the UK for leading the main BBC football programme so he gets a lot of publicity and credibility from that.

    • @NigelThompson-hb5jg
      @NigelThompson-hb5jg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he has lost that to Beckham and Henry now.

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Everyone is an austerity loving Thatcherite except the Greens now.
    Bit of a surprise if you remember the 70s but here we are.

    • @FranzBieberkopf
      @FranzBieberkopf 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thatcher wasn't in power till 1979
      The 1970s passed her by-Thatcherism started in the 1980s.

    • @tulyar57
      @tulyar57 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@FranzBieberkopf Don't you believe it. I was one of the kids who had their milk stopped by Thatcher the Milksnatcher when she was Education Secretary in the early seventies. An early marker of austerity, methinks.

    • @brettlangridge9449
      @brettlangridge9449 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not the SNP though😀

    • @justagame101
      @justagame101 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@FranzBieberkopf Not at all true. She was in Heath's cabinet and rather quickly took over the party in the mid-70s. Thatcherism, not unlike Reaganomics, was just a localised term for neoliberalism.

    • @ednorton47
      @ednorton47 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tulyar57 It wouldn't have hurt you to have tea.

  • @peterclarke7240
    @peterclarke7240 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Just remember, Sunak couldn't actually be bothered to go to the Omaha Beach commemorations with all the other world leaders.
    Not a great look, Richy!

    • @TheOfficialThundazz
      @TheOfficialThundazz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Were the other world leaders at Gold or Sword beach? If not, why should Sunak be present at Omaha? I’m no fan of the government but this D-Day thing has been blown well out of proportion.

  • @tulyar57
    @tulyar57 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Crikey! Sunak, Cameron, Starmer and Lammy are in Normandy? Hope they don't jump on a boat to get back to Blighty; they may end up in Rwanda!

    • @oitoitoi1
      @oitoitoi1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      sunak bailed on it, he couldn't even get that right.

    • @user-cf3cr8ki7e
      @user-cf3cr8ki7e 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @user-cf3cr8ki7e
      @user-cf3cr8ki7e 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      With little Engine Rishi Sunak as captain of the ship ,it's possible 😂😂😂😂

  • @joso7228
    @joso7228 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    It's not Lineker. He plays Centre Forward.

    • @vanman266
      @vanman266 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      John Barnes or Chris Waddle are better left wing options.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    "We've covered Wales well I think" he says after one of the panelists admitted to only hearing about the whole Vaughan Gething debacle THIS MORNING. Do you ever think maybe this sort of arrogance is part of why so many people want a split with England?

    • @sarahsteeleuk4196
      @sarahsteeleuk4196 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We need Wales to sea that we all got the same issue. They won't give up their political power. Won't fully implement brexit. Robbing us blinds. So we gotvto Vote Reform UK. In an attempt to transfer power back to our hands from the political, globalist elites. The hardest blow we can. I'm sorry, I know you feel like we are crap. It just took a while wake up. We are all on it x stay strong. Spread the word ❤

    • @harryjh94
      @harryjh94 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah damn, I hope they never specialise, that would be awful.

    • @troglodytestroglodytes220
      @troglodytestroglodytes220 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      These 3 people look like they represent a very small demographic. Not representative of any English people I know.

  • @johnberesford9906
    @johnberesford9906 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    The left? Don't you mean centre right liberal

  • @XavierJAlexander
    @XavierJAlexander 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    None of these people are left wing in this “left wing” list.

  • @rupertproctor7579
    @rupertproctor7579 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is a list of mostly centrist. Bonkers how far right this country has moved

  • @hariowen3840
    @hariowen3840 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Power on the left??? now? - dream on eh!

  • @jonsteele7227
    @jonsteele7227 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Twitter even main stream broadcasters are savaging Sunaks lie. Even times radio has had to fact check and acknowledge it.

  • @janecurrie6794
    @janecurrie6794 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amusing they mention Sunak returning "in the afternoon" from Normandy, without batting an eyelid about it. The same breed are obviously employed by Tory HQ. Plonkers anonomous a go go. This country, may the good Lord help it!!

  • @khar12d8
    @khar12d8 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vaughan Gething just comes across as very strange. He's got a weird personality.

  • @c1carnage933
    @c1carnage933 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I never knew that Tory lite apologists were left wing

  • @Godfrey_first_tarnished
    @Godfrey_first_tarnished 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up.
    -Ragnar Lothbrok TV series.

  • @modestproposal9114
    @modestproposal9114 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I clicked to find who was powerful in the Left, and it was all figures from the Right!

  • @parallaxview6770
    @parallaxview6770 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Starmers tactic to win the leadership was to lie his face off

  • @parallaxview6770
    @parallaxview6770 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    There is no left . The NS is in no way left

  • @1erkyrob2
    @1erkyrob2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The New Statesman is so keen on being Tory.

  • @kevoreilly6557
    @kevoreilly6557 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    To paraphrase Liam Byrne:
    “Dear chief secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there's no left”

  • @tommyboy87ify
    @tommyboy87ify 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A bit quieter that aged well 😂

  • @woodencreatures
    @woodencreatures 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Angela Rayner is the only person you mentioned (in Labour) that I would say was on the left. Starmer got the leadership under false pretences and has lied about everything ever since. I can't stand him. And now he's saying he's going to stop the boats! Whey does he have to come out with all this tory bs when he's going to win a landslide? We need PR now. The only hope is that once he gets in he might do a bit more than he's saying. I'm just so effing depressed

  • @AlanWarrenBelfastArchitect
    @AlanWarrenBelfastArchitect 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Currently, the left in this election is not represented by Labour, but by a diverse scattering of independents and the Greens. They all receive little coverage, so post this election the 'left' will be underrepresented. . Labour by moving to the right to attract moderate Conservatives has alienated a significant portion of its base, (The treatment of Abbott and others has also alienated many.)
    When Labour win the election, they will find that votes borrowed are less dependable than the core support that they have alienated. The honeymoon period may be very short given the mess they are inheriting. Next May, they may be the Party losing hundreds of Council seats.

  • @Rossy167
    @Rossy167 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Very surreal to hear these guys talking about politics like it's a fantasy football game. Also very telling that barely any of the people he listed were actually left leaning. To be clear on just how fucked his "left" power list is: Wes Streeting is #8 and JK Rowling is #25. Utterly and completely fucked.
    Might be misreading this but I'm not sure that Freddie was particularly into it?

  • @stevenwilliamson6236
    @stevenwilliamson6236 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is Morgan Mcsweeney related to the actress from Derry girls?

  • @liammclaughlin4507
    @liammclaughlin4507 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No Gordon Brown?

    • @MrBoboiscool
      @MrBoboiscool 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would mean somewhat a fightback against pure thatcherite econmics, keir cant be having that.

  • @c1carnage933
    @c1carnage933 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    It's honestly amazing seeing how these people are described as left wing almost as if they can't admit to themselves they're Tories in disguise 🥸🥸🥸

  • @vijendrapatricknaryan2637
    @vijendrapatricknaryan2637 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Don't count your chickens before they hatch.You may regret it.

    • @malcky630
      @malcky630 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep I think you are right.🐓

  • @kitcat4512
    @kitcat4512 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The UN does.

  • @Lesliepa07
    @Lesliepa07 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I honestly feel dumber and less informed after this

  • @DonybrookandBray
    @DonybrookandBray 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    George Galloway, what a load os nonsense!

  • @rogerpitcher2636
    @rogerpitcher2636 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    is tony blair on the list? TBI?

  • @philipdavies5195
    @philipdavies5195 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having anyone from neoliberal Labour on the left power list is laughable😂

  • @Sassssky
    @Sassssky 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my overton window most of these people(starmer reeves) aren't left wing.

  • @alistairmrkerr1336
    @alistairmrkerr1336 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If i hear one more tory mp state that Rishi Sunak is a stickler for Details and a Very Patriotic man i will need a new tv , if he was patriotic he would not have disrespected the WW2 heroes in front of the world press and if he had been a details man he would have known what the British general public would think about him leaving early to further his political career. There has been a rash of posts hinting that Rishi is not British or a patriot, i know he was born in England so he is English i don't believe he is Patriotic since he kept his green card and his wife had non dom status while he was in government. I must admit i had a little chuckle when i saw james O'Brien sticking up for Rishi because racists were questioning his Britishness, Rishi has fanned the flame of racism with his illegal migrants rable rousing

  • @stephentyler9697
    @stephentyler9697 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Defining Palestine left or right
    Is political blindness
    The murders are a matter of
    Humanity

  • @hilarykirkby4771
    @hilarykirkby4771 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People are not be very interested in comings and goings in Wales, true. It may be because 200,000 is smallbeer at the side of what the tories in Westminster get up tol

  • @baynesstreetblues
    @baynesstreetblues 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:32 Rachel Reeves polled at No1 last year and yet Starmer us not top of the stack in 2024 despite being leader of one of the largest potential Labour majorities in electoral history. Do I detect faint leadership rumblings a year hence?

    • @MrBoboiscool
      @MrBoboiscool 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, just an acceptance that keir is a puppet that morgan mcsweeney forced into power. His plan is pretty well documented, he chose keir as his face man, without him starmer never wins.

  • @XeNeXX
    @XeNeXX 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    even the stupid tory in the middle didnt see the backlash coming - he knew rushi wasnt saying and couldnt see an issue - another out of touch tory

  • @andybrice2711
    @andybrice2711 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've listened to a few episodes of _The Rest is Politics_ produced by Lineker. But its analysis is sorely lacking compared to this podcast. They seem stuck in a bubble of their own making, with little understanding of other people's views.
    I think Alastair Campbell's entire take on the Scottish Hate Bill was something like _"I don't see what all the fuss is about. Hate is bad. Anyone who objects to this is obviously just waging a culture war."_

  • @CauliflowerHair
    @CauliflowerHair 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean at least sex hair Harry is back at it again!

  • @lyudmilakutsenko7045
    @lyudmilakutsenko7045 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In case you didn't know, Britain isn't a state of the United States. They lost the war, but not to that extend.
    P.S. no need to thank me. Thank my history teacher.

    • @lyudmilakutsenko7045
      @lyudmilakutsenko7045 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have never visited the United States, but have been in Great Britain.

  • @macsmiffy2197
    @macsmiffy2197 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think I’ve heard enough political dribble on TH-cam. Thanks for the enlightenment. 👋

  • @artsed08
    @artsed08 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aitch-Q, not Haitch-Q.

  • @user-cf3cr8ki7e
    @user-cf3cr8ki7e 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Labour record is better on economy, immigration,Healthcare,socialcare,aftercare,social security,

    • @davidk7262
      @davidk7262 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      People don't like it when you say that despite the fact if you consider it objectively it is 100% factual.

  • @user-cf3cr8ki7e
    @user-cf3cr8ki7e 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People

  • @StuAnderson90
    @StuAnderson90 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Were George and Freddie born with silver Spoon's or something 😂

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Chinese obviously

  • @ednorton47
    @ednorton47 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Die Juden?

  • @stevenwilliamson6236
    @stevenwilliamson6236 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rather racist?

  • @FranzBieberkopf
    @FranzBieberkopf 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Does anybody, except just possibly the people who write such guff, take any of these "Power Lists", "100 most important somethings" drivel seriously?.
    It's identical to the Rich List in the Sunday Times-crap to fill in the spaces between the adverts.
    The people who write this gibberish have grossly inflated self-importance-just listen to this nonsense and try to take it seriously😊

  • @louiserichmondUK
    @louiserichmondUK 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really want to listen to your podcasts as there is a lot of interesting information but do you realize how you come across? Self-satisfied and morally entitled - because you are on the left, like the Guardian on steroids. Please - less of the Oxbridge and more straightforward discussion. I couldn’t finish listening to this even though I wanted to!

  • @sysasst670
    @sysasst670 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lets face it a vote for Labour is like turkeys voting for Christmas. Starmer, Abbott, Lammy, Miliband and Thornberry are more frightening than Putin! Vote Reform

    • @paulsparks7035
      @paulsparks7035 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He he.

    • @mogzybuster
      @mogzybuster 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'd rather have them than any of the tories that have led us to where we are today, but hey it's still a democratic country (albeit less so since 2010), vote to keep the grifters in power, then you will truly get more of the same. Realistically your choice is starmer or sunak. And don't forget the longer the tories go on, the more right wing they become.

    • @foloeel
      @foloeel 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No chance

  • @tomholloway7164
    @tomholloway7164 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where's Anoush?

  • @zakmurphy3476
    @zakmurphy3476 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    W.E.F