Splitting Cases On Honda 400ex...This Is BAD!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- I end up splitting the cases on my 2000 Honda 400ex. What I find is not too good. #Honda, #400cc, #Rebuild,
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You really need a work bench, your back and knees are going to hate you.
Exactly
make sure you take a hammer and some type of screw driver or something and you lock the clutch bolt back into place. idk if its like that on those quads but for mine you got to lock it in place.
Not gonna lie your channel and cars and cameras are the only channels I watch on TH-cam
Appreciate it!
It makes my day better whenever I watch video on your 400ex
Same, I love watching him hack shit together it makes me laugh
Joe go to harbor freight and buy a 20 ton press then you can rebuild oem crankshafts with new aftermarket rods I do it all the time it's a big money maker**********
I think I might!
Best bet for saving money the press will pay for its self on other projects
2stoke time I've been thinking about rebuilding my own crankshaft in my 660 I've separated a few crank webs with my press what bothers me is getting the crank trued up how do you do that so there is no vibration
@@kevinhumphrey932 get it as close as possible and measure the run out with dial indicators anything under .03 is factory spec
I’m not first nor am I last but when I see 400Ex’s I click fast
You need a plastic tray and do that on a bench :-)
I would check the gears with dogs and the detents they drop into. Those will have tell tale signs of hard hard abuse when changing gears. The dogs should be flat and have pretty square edges - meaning not smashed in or rounding over. I'm replacing mine in the Project XR/XL600 - i got a whole transmission set for $60 used in like new cond from ebay. Depending on cost - you can have the crank rebuilt as well, that's the path i took, but my parts are much harder to find being an 87. The way to look at it is you have it COMPLETELY apart now - change all the bearings and inspect the trans gears - you dont want to have to split the case again :-)
You’ve gotten better at putting seat covers on over the yrs
Been learning so much from your 400 build so I can get started on mine
I hope learning what NOT to do
I’m From Wisco too, I have a 400ex aswell, looking forward to refreshing it this winter
You make my knees and back hurt lol. Take that money from that 450 and get you a work table, 1/2 inch drive impact wrench and metric impact sockets, parts washer, and a pull handle. You really need a press too but that can wait. Love the channel and can't wait to see you get yourself a legit shop going.
I never use a crankcase puller I just use a block of wood and tap the cases were the cylinder studs are and once the gasket splits or seal is broken the cases slide right apart....... and remember to Revit to the Moon!!!! Lol
Joe get you a motion pro clutch tool you will thank me later, great work man your killin it with these 400”s🤘
Yes motion pro is the best all mycable's are and there sick with asv breakaways!!!!!! And there tools are high quality
dang i need a valve compressor like that, i used an old ghetto one and shot a valve retainer across my shed. Lucky I found it
Of course there’s gonna be play in the crank like that when you only have 1 case half on
A raptor 700r project would be mint 👌🏽
Get a Raptor 700 next
Fun bikes terrible trannys. 5th gear and 2nd to 3rd is just terrible. They tend to throw rods also.
Tomboy187 not really I have one and it’s never broke once besides the chain
Tony Campbell you not riding hard enough lol. I’ve had all kinds of bikes in the past 10 years since I’ve started riding and soon as I graduated I bought a 2013 straight off the showroom floor. Within a month I had to take it back because it wouldn’t go into 3rd wide open throttle and didn’t have 5th at all. Within a year of having it I tore 5th out again and had to rebuild it myself. Had a built 660 that did the same exact thing. I don’t know if it’s cause we do a lot of wide open highway riding/drag racing or not but they’re not that strong if you ride hard. I’ve also had plenty of buddies with brand new stock bikes throw rods and ruin the entire motor.
Tomboy187 I’m definitely riding hard enough but what ever you think
SonsyWhale right you can ride hard and still take care of your stuff
Congrats on 150k!!!!!
Thank you! And thank you for watching!
2vintage no problem! I still remember when it was right around 25k.
The quad collection 😍
Nice editing of your content Joey.👊🏼
Like some of us have been saying, the Raptor 660 or 700 will hopefully be coming soon! 😉🛵
Been asking these guys for like almost 3 years to do a 660.
if he thinks the 400 has power he'll get scared of the 660/700
@@coyote_450f definitely 👍
660s are complete junk!!! 700 are ok but the fuel injection is a nightmare, and have left me stranded more than once!! There just not good bikes all-around
@@jasonpetrich4141 damn... sorry that you've had bad experiences. I have 2 and I love em. They're 20 year old machines... (660s).. build one to your standards.
I litterally ordered that exact same valve compressor kit for my 400ex
Did you determine what the metal shavings from?
From what I read the hotrod cranks aren’t that bad . It’s the wiseco that have problems . The wiseco pistons are awesome but the cranks have bad reviews . I think the wiseco pistons are the best . I have a 1998 Cr 250 and I just had it rebuilt with a pro x piston . It seems to be slightly slower . But that might just be cause it’s not broke in yet . Your videos are awesome . Really appreciate your videos. Make sure to take a vacation with your future wife too bro.
You can rebuild that crank just replace the rod and the rod bearing !! Good luck brother
He would have to find someone willing to do it and it would be expensive, most people wont rebuild them unless they are for a rare bike or if the crank is discontinued, it would just be way easier to buy a useable crank
I rebuild them I got a press a old cheap harbor freight and it works good for me if u do it your self it's cheap
@@jasonward9559 it's very easy to mess up and not get thr crank true, the best bet is to have a machinist that has a good truing stand do it because if the crank has too much run out it will shake the bike to death and if the webs aren't perfectly centered, bad things can happen, I would not reccomend someone with his skill level attempt something like that especially if he is selling this bike to someone, you dont want to sell someone a bike with a shady crank, just my opinion, yes I can be done but I would not reccomend
@@jasonward9559 if you have a good crank jig to split it and assemble it it's fine doing that, but if it was me I would buy a new crank
@@OGKILLa9365 yep rebuilding a crank is definently something a novice should not do, let a professional crank rebuilder/machinist do the job because one mistake can kill the crank or even shake the engine to death by being out of true. Rebuilding one requires very delicate adjustments and assembly, just eyeballing it isn't good enough you have to be precise about it.
That seat cover looks great! Nice job :)
I sore the notification and clicked so fast on your video
Make a video you making a bad ass huge workbench bro. You could probably make a lot of money with all the skills and business ideas .
Great work.next project raptor 660 or 700.
Get a hotrod crank i have been using my crank for 2 years they last
I see a nice Parts washer been in your future
Awesome vid and edits and filming and toys and knowledge and shop
Comment isn’t really relevant, but should I go for a yfz450r or a raptor 700r?? Professional opinion.
I have been looking for the 700!
2vintage Oh really? It would be awesome to see you work on one just to give viewers something else yk? And I driven a 450r before and it’s kinda scary if you don’t know what you’re doing so I’m kinda thinking on whether or not a raptor is sufficient enough 😅
Are you gonna be trail riding or racing on the track?
Jared Valente I was kinda going to be doing both tbh but mostly trail riding but i also love racing
The crank bearings are bad
Currently rebuilding my predator engine and it was full of mud and had one acorn in it lol
The gears were stuck since the whole transmission is all rusted
Get a raptor 700 or ltr450 next. Keep the 400exs though please
Hey man I have 01 cr125 I put a 04 and up crank in and it was cheaper than the 01 it was oem of course my point is see if cranks interchangeable maybe the 00s ex is more expensive than maybe 02 or w.e
Make sure you replace those crank bearings while ur in there it sort of seems like u might not do it, when u spun the crank it was also pretty noicey
Yeah i am replacing them!
lol i just read 181 commets bc i was bored lol love the videos keep up the good work
I been looking to buy a 400 are 450 Honda I have a 350 warrior time to upgrade. Nice video keep them coming 🤙
Zach Vanhorn warriors are basically the same thing as the 400
@@COMBATCOACH13 yeah in a way I got mine built a little but all my buddies with 400 still beat me on top end mines a 99 but honestly it's a good bike no complaints but it will never be a 450 are a built 400
I love 400 ex's
Same
Fr
Hot rods crank is the best don’t listen to people saying oem hot rods is the best they take a beating
I like ltz 400 race models I have one my self
@@michaelbosko4643 I like both
need more lighting in the garage lol next project. film putting them in lol
good machine shop will split the crank for you and change out bearing and rod
and shims for you and rebalance it pretty reasonable
Watching from england
Please reply
I think it was a little lean due to the intake valves carbon looking white and they look like they got hot, previous owner may have heat siezed it put a new top end and sold it
Awesome video man
My dirtbike used to lock up like that when it would start and I replaced the piston and now it starts on 2 kicks(*knock knock on wood)
you need to check the pump the tips of the gears if they have a flat spot.
I don,t see why "This Is Bad" applies here looks like everything is going real well to me. Curious to see what that rod bearing looks like when you get it out. Keep it up your doing fine.
You didn't see the metal shavings in the filter?
I love Honda 400EX is they're good four wheelers but I switched over to a LTZ 400 have you ever thought about doing one of them
Yes
Good job on the seat bro It should run great and last a long time when your done Glad ya didn't trash it now ? LoL
Great video! Use better lighting though so we can see every thing better
I have my cranks rebuilt if you know the two halves are good, most engine builders know where to get crank pins, rods and bearings. maybe i got lucky with guy that does mine but would imagine a competent engineer would do it as measurements are important . from memory i got charged £95 for crank rebuild inc bearing rod and pin???
Do a raptor 660r next!!
You should take everything off and paint the frame
Why don't you have a work bench?
Currently setting one up in my garage!
You will like that it's a Lot easier to work on things.
Please put the red 400s wheels onto this one it would just make it 10× better
Why don't you lap them while you have them off? I seen you clean them up but I haven't seen you do that yet
Someone in the comments said you aren't supposed to lap them when they are the stock valves...only when you replace the valves you are supposed to. Idk if that is correct or not.
@@2vintage this is true. Only if you're replacing them or if one is leaking and you are trying to repair it. My bad I was thinking about the machine you had that was smoking really bad
Hot rods cranks are fine, Wiseco cranks are the ones that suck. The wiseco pistons are fine but the cranks are a big NO
If anything use hot rods crank over a weisco crank
Go go little one 👍👍👍👍👍
When are you going to get a raptor 660
Man are you still active on this video post? I'm about to do this but not to sure on what to do and if I have any questions I was seeing if you would respond.
Buy a wiseco crank so we can see it shoot out of your cases and it explodes that will be funny
Great vid
There's no issues using hotrod cranks.. theres a reason they are one of the top brands.. or wrench rabbit they are both good ive had a hotrod crank in one of my 400ex's for over 8 years and it has a big bore kit and ported and polished head and full valve job etc and tons of power its a +6mm stroker and it runs amazing never had to open it back up since I built it. Don't listen to the internet they are idiots most of the time. Do what you want .. with the 3xception of wiseco. They are junk piston kits.. there are alot more good brands to use i own the local Honda dealership/repair shop in my area and I've rebuilt plenty of 400ex's and they comeback for regular maintenance but no issues ..
I’ll always remember you as the guy who couldn’t start the 250r he just bought for some reason 😂 sorry
Who said hot rods cranks are bad lol. They're the best u can buy, I've used both and never had issues. Stop listening to the 10 year old "mechanics"
Oem crank is best. Hot rods crank is fine. They aren’t as bad as people say. Wiseco is bad. Do NOT use wiseco crank.
28:00 it’s a Honda it will last a while 😂
My comment : that play in the crank sideways is normal
Hot rods are better than wiseco for cranks
Four strokes and all the parts
Alright guys I need some help here, I might be rebuilding a moped engine soon. I can't find any engine parts except for a piston, I'm assuming the piston needs to be specifically for the moped but do the rings need to be for the moped or can they just be 49cc rings EDIT or do I just need to measure the bore or what I need some help here.
It's a 2006 honda metropolitan if that will help, I got it for free from a neighbor he said he took it to a shop and they said he had an airbox leak so dirt got in and ruined the rings, I'm hoping the cylinder is fine because I can find one anywhere.
@@dannyo126 sorry i cant help
You should get a Polaris outlaw 500 or 525
Or even a predator 500
raptor 700 next
Definitely gonna be play when you only have half the case holding the crank
If I was you I'd contact mid west crankshaft and have that crank rebuilt I can get his contact information if you want .
Get a Wesco crank
I bought one
2vintage you won’t be disappointed
Everyone talks shit about those hot rods cranks and rods I've never had any issues with them ,I have them in my 2001 xcr 800 triple and had no problems .
I feel kind of bad for you
He likes fixing things
Lol why?
It cracks me up when people talk sh*t . Give the guy credit for fixing his own stuff and learning in the process, a lot more than most will do. Plus brave enough to make a video for others to learn. Most people are to scared to stand in front of a camera.
@@technician-tony nobody said anything
2vintage I don’t know you spend so much money and you have to keep on spending it
look into a Honda 450 cam chain i put on in my 400ex the chain is stronger------ i found it out on one of the Honda 400ex forums
should never get a used crank innless you want trouble again----- REMENBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
From what I’ve heard, wiseco cranks are absolute shit. I’ve heard nothing but bad things in any forum that has to do with wiseco cranks.
Bear is so totally not supposed to be play in the crankshaft bearing
If you want it to last, do the wiseco full kit!!!!!Or try a sparks racing,
You need valve lapping compound and a lapping tool not expensive
Sure the tool. Chuck the valve in a drill. And let her eat
@@sixpacksandsrts9122 that tells me your not a very good machanic if you lap valves like that
Larry Warner Lmao. People been doing it for years bud
@@sixpacksandsrts9122 you might do that but no machine shop that I know do shit like that .
Larry Warner Yea. Because using a rubber cup like a fire starter is way different then a drill rotating. Now. I would agree if it’s a new valve grind. But to check if they are bent and sealing. A drill for the win. I’ll let you comment again say how it’s gay and let you have the last word
350 isn’t that bad 😐
Exactly and especially for a crank
Use Rocky Mountain get Rocky Mountain cash get discounts.
What’s up
Get a stroker or bore
You sell all the good quads the trx 250r and now the 450r what
I still have my 1999 honda 400ex though!
Do not put the same timing chain back on
Already bought a new one!
Yea I did that with my 250r I bought a used oem crank on Ebay for 70$ and all balls crank bearings. Because hot rods and wisco are kinda shit.
Get wrench rabbit bottom end kit they work great
Get a Yamaha blaster nexf
Next
Free atv 400ex
Yo
You need a work bench
#timingchain