@@toxin6009 yup, it's generally okay for 1440p gaming. But new GPUs are about to be announce on Jan 6 at NVIDIA LAN 50 event CES 2025. Let's wait and see what the new GPUs has to offer.
Hello! There is no "3070 Super". NVIDIA only released an RTX 3070 and 3070 Ti. But for the RTX 40 series, there are four xx70 cards: 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti and 4070 Ti Super. The RTX 4070 Super is roughly 42% faster than the RTX 3070 on average (give or take) And it is about 15% faster than the RTX 3070 Ti on average (give or take).
@@GatitoMagicoTH-camr ah if it's slim vs the 3-slot design, i don't think there's a huge difference. the 4070 super GPU is not that hot compared to the 4080 and 4090. I'm positive that the performance difference would be negligible. But I think the thicker one would have a slightly lower temp since it has a larger heatsink.
I have not tried overclocking it. But from what I have seen and read, it's not worth overclocking them, or any of the RTX 40 series cards. The performance increase is minimal and you'll run risk of instability issues.
@@Songbird.666 they will all perform similarly since they are using the same GPU inside. Don't bother too much with clock speeds since these cards will boost higher thanks to NVIDIA Boost technology, provided that the GPU runs cooler. If I were in your shoes, I'd pick whichever suits my taste first, or what looks good to me or for my build. Second is the price. Depending on your region, one could be pricier than the other. So it's really up to you. Judging from the looks of the cards alone, it seems that gigabyte has the beefiest cooler. But I'd pick the gaming x slim since the gigabyte card is just too bulky for my taste. The dual OC is okay and it looks like it's the "smallest" among the three. Not sure if the temps are good though since it only has two fans and a smaller heatsink compared to msi or gigabyte's.
Nice vid bro! I have a question though, I have the Gaming X slim variant card and my cousin also have this specific card my question is why does his card can boost higher than mine? his card can go to 2850 and mine can only tops at 2745-2760 mhz, I wondering what would be the cause of it.
@@jmdb8768 thanks for watching! I can only guess since there are variables involved. Here are some of my guesses: 1. GPU silicone quality 2. Perhaps it was overclocked or boosted via MSI center or after urner 3. Lower operating temps thus the GPU boost higher/longer Or combination of these
@@hardwarevsgamingmy AC is at 24c. I have RTX 3080 AMP Holo. The worst of the worst heatsink i have seen. Currently i undervolt it at 8.37v and also using at 1780mhz. Still gets 76c. I also have very Extreme Fan Curve. At 75c my Fans run at 85% which is 2400-2500RPM and it’s loud like a blower. 😂 i was thinking about replacing it with 4070 Super So that i don’t have to deal with such things.
@@XivaGG hmmm maybe you need to repaste or reapply thermal compound. But don't do it if you are not familiar, you may damage the card. I have an MSI Radeon card before (forgot the model). The temp was bad. After several months I decided to open it and check what's going on. Didn't saw anything out of the ordinary but I replaced the thermal compound and after that GPU temp dropped massively. I'm not sure if it's due to the thermal compound or something didn't made contact properly. But it fixed the high temps.
Do i need to use that support bracket here for slim version? It really looks weird and seems like u need to remove most of PCI-E brackets which means more dust will get into your PC in the back.
@@Berkelll I don't like that type of support bracket as well. Don't use it. Since the card is long despite being slim, it sags a little bit. Just use a different type of anti sag or holder. Similar to the one I use. Anything that could support the rear-end of the card
what power supple model do you have? these RTX 40 series cards use the new 16-pin 12VHPWR connector. if your PSU is not PCIE 5 ready, these cards do come with an adapter. But you need two 8-pin PCIe power connectors, separate and not pigtail connectors. At least for the RTX 4070(S). Higher-end RTX 40 cards require three 8-pin or even four 8-pin connectors to be connected to the adapter.
@@Antovmusic the Core Reactor? Because the Core Reactor II already has a 12VHPWR connector. For 4070s, use the included adapter. Connect two individual 8pin connectors. Don't use the pigtail.
@@hardwarevsgaming Hello, I have a Chieftec PowerPlay Gold 650W should I buy 2 wires separately? 6+2 are not suitable. Do I have only them? or because of the Google translator, I don't understand the meaning of the word "Don't use pigtail."
@@VasterLordUlquiorra Hello! I checked the PSU you mentioned. It only has one power output for the VGA, the red one. correct? If I am in your situation, I'd upgrade the power supply as well. I wouldn't risk. And since I'm at it, I'd pick a PCIe5-ready PSU. While 650W is enough for the RTX 4070 Super, a PSU from one manufacturer to another are not made the same.
Bro i have a doubt like does this card perform better then the gigabyte 4070 super gaming oc it has slightly lower boost clock that this msi card but according to you after using this card can u just give a small comparison on both, like which performs better. Im a really degenerate anime weeb but i dont want to buy a card ill regret buying.
Sorry for the late reply. I hope you found your answer. But if not, overall they will perform similarly. Both are using the same AD104 GPU chip with 7168 CUDA cores. It really doesn't matter if there's a difference in out of the box clock speed. 1st, you can manually overclock it anyway. 2nd, NVIDIA controls how these GPUs perform. so an AIB manufacturer can't tweak its graphics card to the point that it will significantly perform better than the other. They all perform similarly. The Gigabyte may perform very slightly better due to its larger heatsink. But at the end of the day, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway. The difference is negligible. Since you like anime, get the Dragon Princess. Personally, between a thick graphics card and a slim one, I'd pick the latter.
@@jamesmobley5126 @jamesmobley5126 DLSS is enabled in cyberpunk, witcher, hellblade. But not FG, settings are indicated in each run. I only have limited time with the card and wasn't able to record several scenarios. There are many combinations with DLSS and/or FG. But bottom line is DLSS will increase the frame rate. And FG will smoothen the experience as if you are running at X frame rate.
@@WintersCloud they should release for other GPUs as well, ex 4060, 4080, and yeah the 70 ti Super too. I guess they are still experimenting if this model will have high demand before they expand and produce more
Fellow dragon princess haver❤
I hope MSI makes more or different variant of this and for other GPUs as well
Good video. I think the 4070 Super is the "Sweet Spot" card for a lot of gamers.
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk indeed
Keep it up! Nice vídeo!
How is the card doing now? Does it still hold up?
@@toxin6009 yup, it's generally okay for 1440p gaming. But new GPUs are about to be announce on Jan 6 at NVIDIA LAN 50 event CES 2025. Let's wait and see what the new GPUs has to offer.
I am dumb reading specifications, so, does it has the same performance of the others 3070 super? Or is it inferior? Thanks
Hello! There is no "3070 Super". NVIDIA only released an RTX 3070 and 3070 Ti.
But for the RTX 40 series, there are four xx70 cards: 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti and 4070 Ti Super.
The RTX 4070 Super is roughly 42% faster than the RTX 3070 on average (give or take)
And it is about 15% faster than the RTX 3070 Ti on average (give or take).
@@hardwarevsgaming Oh sorry, i meant 4070 super, i was refering to this model in comparison with the 4070 super not slim version
@@GatitoMagicoTH-camr ah if it's slim vs the 3-slot design, i don't think there's a huge difference. the 4070 super GPU is not that hot compared to the 4080 and 4090. I'm positive that the performance difference would be negligible. But I think the thicker one would have a slightly lower temp since it has a larger heatsink.
@@hardwarevsgaming Thank you very much!
@@GatitoMagicoTH-camr no problem. Happy gaming 👍
Shit, they know how to attract weebs customer
it went out of stock on amazon right when i saved enough to order one :(
I guess it's selling fast since it's limited.
Hi! These graphic card can be overclocked? Thank you!
I have not tried overclocking it. But from what I have seen and read, it's not worth overclocking them, or any of the RTX 40 series cards. The performance increase is minimal and you'll run risk of instability issues.
Hi, can you guys help me? I don't know which one to pick, 4070s msi gaming x slim, gigabyte gaming oc or asus dual oc?
@@Songbird.666 they will all perform similarly since they are using the same GPU inside. Don't bother too much with clock speeds since these cards will boost higher thanks to NVIDIA Boost technology, provided that the GPU runs cooler.
If I were in your shoes, I'd pick whichever suits my taste first, or what looks good to me or for my build. Second is the price. Depending on your region, one could be pricier than the other.
So it's really up to you.
Judging from the looks of the cards alone, it seems that gigabyte has the beefiest cooler. But I'd pick the gaming x slim since the gigabyte card is just too bulky for my taste. The dual OC is okay and it looks like it's the "smallest" among the three. Not sure if the temps are good though since it only has two fans and a smaller heatsink compared to msi or gigabyte's.
My guess is that the hotspot on the GPU is 10 degrees celcius more.
Nice vid bro! I have a question though, I have the Gaming X slim variant card and my cousin also have this specific card my question is why does his card can boost higher than mine? his card can go to 2850 and mine can only tops at 2745-2760 mhz, I wondering what would be the cause of it.
@@jmdb8768 thanks for watching!
I can only guess since there are variables involved. Here are some of my guesses:
1. GPU silicone quality
2. Perhaps it was overclocked or boosted via MSI center or after urner
3. Lower operating temps thus the GPU boost higher/longer
Or combination of these
what's your ambient temp of room?
@@XivaGG I don't have a measuring tool or thermometer for my room, currently. But I set my AC to 23° Celsius
@@hardwarevsgamingmy AC is at 24c. I have RTX 3080 AMP Holo. The worst of the worst heatsink i have seen. Currently i undervolt it at 8.37v and also using at 1780mhz. Still gets 76c. I also have very Extreme Fan Curve. At 75c my Fans run at 85% which is 2400-2500RPM and it’s loud like a blower. 😂 i was thinking about replacing it with 4070 Super So that i don’t have to deal with such things.
@@XivaGG hmmm maybe you need to repaste or reapply thermal compound. But don't do it if you are not familiar, you may damage the card.
I have an MSI Radeon card before (forgot the model). The temp was bad. After several months I decided to open it and check what's going on. Didn't saw anything out of the ordinary but I replaced the thermal compound and after that GPU temp dropped massively. I'm not sure if it's due to the thermal compound or something didn't made contact properly. But it fixed the high temps.
Do i need to use that support bracket here for slim version? It really looks weird and seems like u need to remove most of PCI-E brackets which means more dust will get into your PC in the back.
@@Berkelll I don't like that type of support bracket as well. Don't use it. Since the card is long despite being slim, it sags a little bit. Just use a different type of anti sag or holder. Similar to the one I use. Anything that could support the rear-end of the card
My power supply brings 2 cables with 6 pin each one, can I connect directly from the power supply to GPU?
what power supple model do you have? these RTX 40 series cards use the new 16-pin 12VHPWR connector. if your PSU is not PCIE 5 ready, these cards do come with an adapter. But you need two 8-pin PCIe power connectors, separate and not pigtail connectors. At least for the RTX 4070(S). Higher-end RTX 40 cards require three 8-pin or even four 8-pin connectors to be connected to the adapter.
@@hardwarevsgaming Thank for the asnwer, currently I hav a PSU with 4 outs to 8 pin PCIe, I bought the XPG 850w Gold.
@@Antovmusic the Core Reactor? Because the Core Reactor II already has a 12VHPWR connector. For 4070s, use the included adapter. Connect two individual 8pin connectors. Don't use the pigtail.
@@hardwarevsgaming Hello, I have a Chieftec PowerPlay Gold 650W should I buy 2 wires separately? 6+2 are not suitable. Do I have only them? or because of the Google translator, I don't understand the meaning of the word "Don't use pigtail."
@@VasterLordUlquiorra Hello! I checked the PSU you mentioned. It only has one power output for the VGA, the red one. correct? If I am in your situation, I'd upgrade the power supply as well. I wouldn't risk. And since I'm at it, I'd pick a PCIe5-ready PSU. While 650W is enough for the RTX 4070 Super, a PSU from one manufacturer to another are not made the same.
Bro i have a doubt like does this card perform better then the gigabyte 4070 super gaming oc it has slightly lower boost clock that this msi card but according to you after using this card can u just give a small comparison on both, like which performs better. Im a really degenerate anime weeb but i dont want to buy a card ill regret buying.
Sorry for the late reply. I hope you found your answer. But if not, overall they will perform similarly. Both are using the same AD104 GPU chip with 7168 CUDA cores. It really doesn't matter if there's a difference in out of the box clock speed. 1st, you can manually overclock it anyway. 2nd, NVIDIA controls how these GPUs perform. so an AIB manufacturer can't tweak its graphics card to the point that it will significantly perform better than the other. They all perform similarly. The Gigabyte may perform very slightly better due to its larger heatsink. But at the end of the day, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway. The difference is negligible. Since you like anime, get the Dragon Princess. Personally, between a thick graphics card and a slim one, I'd pick the latter.
can i use 850w with gigabyte aorus waterforce x ii rgb 360 and this card ??? [ Sorry my english is not good ]
@@RASTA-77 yes, 850w is enough for 4070S. Be sure to use native 16-pin or two (individual) 8-pin PCIe (not pigtail) if using the adapter
Can that 1 light be controlled?
@@razielshadow2372 via MSI center, I under mystic light.
@@razielshadow2372 via MSI center, I under mystic light.
why not show these with DLSS or FG on?
@@jamesmobley5126 @jamesmobley5126 DLSS is enabled in cyberpunk, witcher, hellblade. But not FG, settings are indicated in each run. I only have limited time with the card and wasn't able to record several scenarios. There are many combinations with DLSS and/or FG. But bottom line is DLSS will increase the frame rate. And FG will smoothen the experience as if you are running at X frame rate.
What is MLG ?
I have no idea, I'll have to ask MSI and hope to get a response. I can't find any info as well.
MGL stand for Major League Gaming. Its just the name of gaming league.
@@FlawlessRuby MSI is literally memeing with this card xD
I only wish they had a MLG 4070TiS
@@WintersCloud they should release for other GPUs as well, ex 4060, 4080, and yeah the 70 ti Super too. I guess they are still experimenting if this model will have high demand before they expand and produce more
71 °C with 1660 rpm - is normal for this gpu?
Not sure with the rpm since I only use stock. But yes, ~70 °C +/- is acceptable.