Don't forget, when you turn down the adjusting feet, turn the lock nuts up against the unit's chassis. Otherwise, the feet could loose adjustment over time.
Well, I have a matched pair of LG HE front loader washer & dryer, use them a few times each week, have been working perfectly for over 12 years, no repairs, still going strong. I never had a problem with my old gas-heated dryers before that, but I went through a few tradition top loader washer (all name brands) that started to leak or have other issues before they were even 8 years old. My LG machines are definitely "smart" devices, run by small computers. So based on my own experience, I don't agree that modern "smart" washer/dryers = low reliability and/or expensive repair bills. I do think it can have a lot to do with the brand, as there are definitely less expensive and probably lower reliability brands that my LG ones. I have heard great things about Bosch as well.
@Warp2090 ,are you an expert, with a huge number of data points to analyze? If not, then you are just one person with an opinion or experience, and in no position to decide that my very positive experience is "LOL" compared to your experience. For what it is worth, my sister and brother bought similar LG models at around the same time I bought mine, and their experience has been the same as mine. Apparently it is not just me that is lucky.
The information on water usage and what type of products to purchase was excellent. But my question to you is why are you using a cheap dryer vent hose and a potential fire risk?
My mothers house drier vent got so cloged took 2 runs of the drier. i replace (with the same new hose (15 years ago i didnt know)) it and only needed half of the drier run.
Most of the new washers have a computer system that when it goes out makes the washer a throw away as the cost of repair does not make it economical. Went back to the old style washer and dryer that are easy and cheap to fix. Have had mine for 15 years. My smart washer lasted 2 years.
@@melissacook5186Frigidaire. I bought it second hand when it 6 or 7 years old. Still going strong. It does break down every few years but normally an easy fix as parts are easy to get. After my Smart washer died I had 3 different repairmen tell to buy older style washers and keep them as the smart washers are normally not repairable.
If you have one of the old style agitator top loaders, KEEP IT! Repairs are almost always easy DIY things. I kept mine going for 47 years. The so-called "high efficiency" top loaders are very poor designs that tend to damage fabrics. They often have no basket brakes or filters, balance poorly, have weak cabinets. They are unlikely to be durable. If you have one of them, be sure to plug it into a surge suppressor and keep your fingers crossed.
The auto-balancing are auto-nightmares! The "sensing" happens and then the "balancing" happens and then the knocking of the floating base happens...and you come running to see if the washing machine is broke. High-efficiency means you physically have to dump more water in yourself with a bucket or wash 4 pieces of clothes.
@Steve Jones Who cares? 40 gallons of tap water costs about 8 cents and it gets your clothes clean. The "high efficiency" ones don't clean your clothes as well. Not to mention the unit costs WAY more.
@Steve Jones it doesn't matter either you want clean clothes or stink clothes because the less water the less it could get all of that sweat and stains out trust me
"and save tons of money down the road." yeah no old dryers are horrendous with energy usage. Even if it lasts half as long a heat pump dryer will easily pay for itself quickly. Just get stuff from decant brands like Bosch and LG.
Actually, full city water pressure is usually stepped down by a regulator in the main supply for the house. The water heater and cold water supply to the faucets and appliances are usually 40 to 80 psi rather than the city 150 to 160 psi.
If you did it would undoubtedly be the most expensive one. Wait till the appliance repairman comes and tells that your washer needs a new pcb or main bearing.
@@znrctrnn \ True. The new stuff is made to fail. I seen junk yards filled with them. Its bs that the market is so dominated..they must work together or something...they all seem to be made to fail. Its not like they forgot how to build them
Yeah, that sink on the left corner of our screen was wayyyyy dirty than it should be. Plus, their laundry area is so ugly. They're so lazy, they couldn't even paint the walls or have it done. The floor isn't tiled either. Now looking at the machines, I'm like...how did they afford it? Or maybe they didn't. They're just actors.
Good old bosch front loader with all aluminum frame inside, stainless steal tub and drum and brass pump will last for a 100 years. I have mine, made in 1992 in germany. I bought it back in 1993 for 1100 dollars. It can wash, and dry. Has a shitload of different settings, has good old transformer relays and clunky diodes for motor regulation. Motor is full copper with huge heavy rotor. Spins up to 3500 rpm and was serviced only ONCE trough the whole time i have it, last year, when motor capasitor failed. I use it every week, cram the drum tight with clothes, and always comes out beautifully cleaned. Will never buy a new front loader, will only keep my trusty bosch front loader, made in 1992.
TOH should have mentioned the relative purchase price differences, duration of each wash load, and the cost, likelihood and complexity of repairs. Our LG washer requires 1 hour per load, requires the solenoid to turn and turnoff the water instantly, which caused water hammering, and has a separate waterpump [another part that can fail] to evacuate the wastewater.
@@andybub45 Not all WM's have a waterpump to remove water. Some use the centrifugal force to expel water. The frontloader LG we have uses little water and energy, but requires more time per wash load (1hr) and has more complexity (including more points for failures), such as the water pump to move water to the drain. The top loaders (such as Maytag) we've had do not have them.
Buddy what…. ALL. Washers have a drain pump. How do you think the water gets PUMPED into the drainage? You thought the spin cycle pushes the water up that far? Well anyways, LG is top for reliability, so enjoy that.
I was also told that the front load washing machines are about 100 lbs heavier than top loaders since they have concrete in them. A good consideration if you are moving in the near future. The other downside is that sometimes they can get moldy or mildewy in the rim around the door.
For the mildew leave the door open after use so the rubber gasket completely dries. Another problem with front loaders is they can shake vigorously if mounted on a pedestal and on a second floor.
if the house has a gas water heater, they should of ran a gas line and installed a gas dryer since gas is cheaper to operate and produces more heat compared to an electric dryer
yeah gas dryers get hot AF. I washed and dried a load of clothes before bed and left them in the basket and the clothes in the center were still warm in the middle in the morning.
Running another gas line or even a splitter is very expensive plus it depends if you house has gas already because if not you are looking at a huge project
The questions they need to be asking is how easy these things are to work on and how the designs are different in the mechanics. I want the steak, not the sizzle.
you say how easy is these things to work on ??? well first you call a real tech to work on it and he will give you a price it is that easy.... Haha ... and you will pay a hell of a lot to get it fixed and then it will break down again and you can call a tech to give you a price to repair it again and it will never stop... Haha...
@@BlueHen123 \ I dont get the last part. The President does not have that much power and i doubt todays libs would acknowledge him fixing anything.... But ehh
I had a front loading Kenmore Elite but sold it to a friend when I bought my house since the house came with a unitized washer/dryer combo. I liked the capacity of the front loader but the old school top loader takes 1.5 hours less for a heavy duty wash cycle.
I discovered front loaders when my kids were babes in arms 20 years ago. When we switched from a top loader our water bill dropped by about 40% in one month. Not only that but it cleaned our cloths so much more thoroughly we could actually feel the difference when we got dressed after the first wash cycle. The really dark color of the first rinse water was also a clue indicating how much cleaner our cloths were. We've used nothing else since and wouldn't consider a top loader ever again.
Wait I am confused by your comment. You mentioned to switched to a top loader and your water bill dropped? Based on this video top loader use more water ?? No? And then at the end you said you would not consider top loader???
I fix appliances for a living and if I were you I'd avoid those toploaders without agitators like a plague. No agitators puts a lot of stress on the bearing so if you fill more than a 1/4 of that drum it'd looses the bearing and wreck your washer over a year
I'm seeing a lot of comments about mold and mildew in front loaders. Most manufacturers have added a drain inside that rubber seal so water no longer puddles there. Also when installing, be sure to tighten the lock nuts on the feet and if using pedestals use the included hardware to attach the unit to the pedestals. You don't want them falling off.
Michael Taylor American in Europe here. Are you saying that American appliance companies made front-loaders **without** the little drain? Mind. Blown. That is such an amateur mistake I can’t even. (Every washer I’ve used here in Europe has had the drain in the rubber seal, cuz, like... duh.)
It's not an amateur mistake, it's about selling as many washers as possible and maximizing profits. Distraction by marketing that focuses on appearance and bells and whistles. Consumerism in the US.
@@tookitogo For the first few years they existed in the US a lot of them didn't have drains, so they quickly gained a reputation for growing mold there. It's been fixed for a long time, but it's one of those things that just stuck with people because they never bothered to really pay attention.
#1 answer... One you can buy the spider-arm bearings and seal's separately on the washer period, these are the biggest wear parts on any front loader machine and the biggest thing to consider. Or just individual parts in general. Some company's force you to buy ENTIRE assembly's for almost half the cost of the machine instead of a 40-50 dollar separate part. Whirlpool is notorious for this. So the VERY first question you ask, and ask as if you already own the machine. Are the spider arm bearings and seal available separately for purchase.
Buy a good used one, vintage style on craigslist or repair it yourself, or switch it out with another rebuilt one. I can just imagine the cost of an electronic circuit board replacement two hundred plus dollars, or maybe they don't make the board anymore so your force to buy a new appliance. There goes all your savings on utilities.
But you also forget that clothes last 10x as long when you use a front loader. Top loaders, with or without an agitator, rip them to shreds. Buy a $10 surge protector.
Right. The very best machines are all about 15 years old. They are are still a lot of them out there on craigs list and even one used is still a better value than the crap on the showroom floors now
Honestly the old fashioned machines still work. We had a Kenmore that was older than me Im 31 the machine was two years older. It died sometime in 08! The brand dryer we have is called " Capri " that damn dryer is STILL kicking it's 34 year's old I shit you NOT. 😂 The new washing machine we have is an " Amriel" something like that. It's pretty good. Get's the job done.
They have Maytags from over 50 years ago that are still working. They not only lasted longer, they washed better too. So much is about gimmicks these days.
Awesome!.... do the math. Residential water per 1,000 Gallons is $ 1.13. The 40 gallons will cost you 4.5 cents per load. Is it worth spending thousand of dollars on front loader, just to save 3 cents on load?
East Park Home you have to heat that water too- which will cost substantially more than the cost of the water! Anyway, no need to spend this sort of money- front load washers have been standard in the UK for about 40 years, too loaders are almost unheard of. A cheap front loader can be had for about £150- that's less than $200. Yes, you can spend much, much more, but even the very best brand available- Miele - start from £650 and are designed to last at least 20 years.
I love my front loader - I also recommend the ones that automatically put in the detergent so you dont overdo it and make it gross. Clean it out once a month and you're golden.
2:25 I had one of these washers and it developed rust around the blue dispenser on the corner. Don't buy LG... they will blame you for rust. So many consumers had rust issues with LG topload washers
@@stephensnell1379 Lmfao, until the spider and tub bearing disintegrate and the repair man quotes you $800 to repair it. And no, we don't budge on the price. Its a complete disassembly, and 75% of it is parts cost.
@@RemnentPlays That is usually the end of it. Unless you are willing to do it yourself and have the patience. Replacing a bearing/or spider assembly is a full tear down of the machine.
in europe we almost exclusive uses front loading machines and they work good, they can last 10 years without any problem, and most of the time even longer than that, my aunt has a washing machine 25 years old
4:40 Even better I love what you picked out but if you could get t he same thing but where the big drum was both the Washer and the Dryer. This would not only save space but you could set it and forget it. The wash would go like it normally would but instead of pulling the cloths out and putting them in the dryer the same drum would start drying the way you set it. This means if you set the Dry Cycle High the dryer part will turn on and dry on high.
Anybody notice that not even once was reliability brought up. These are typical American Consumers. All wrapped up in the glitz, stainless steel, the chrome. All the cool features, the light show it puts on for you and even the lullibye it sings to reassure you that alls well. Wonder how much they're going to love that shiny bright showroom look when it fails is 14 months, just out of warranty? And then again? The folks that are smart and know value, walk past these "fabulous" machines, and pick up what is a simple washer with a few cycles and hopefully still with a mechanical timer, and will give many years of trouble free service, and when it does, no $375 main control module to replace. But there will always be the two camps.... One is focused solely on looks and glamour (She imagines how she will be the envy of the neighborhood with her glitzy new laundry set, the status symbol) while the other has performance and value in mind (and laughs all the way to the bank with another deposit).
According to Consumer Reports front load LGs full of electronics are among the most reliable and best washing and efficient washers on the USA market. Old and simple doesn't always mean better.
@@jimvossen8417 You are absolutely correct. I fix all my own appliances except refrigeration compressors. I also help buddies unless they have the new computer controlled garbage.
Those faucet double-taps can deteriorate. I had one that corroded in approx 5 years internally at the swivel, which clearly wasn't all-brass, and break off when I bumped it.
Oh something I forgot to mention, yes they may use more water but unless your not allowed to do so by local ordinances, drain the water out onto a tree, plant bed or your lawn. Also Richard, just fyi, complaints registered with laundry mats since they have put in the front loading machines have quadrupled. How do I know, I work for a laundry mate company answering complaints.
Get a Top Loading Speed Queen if you want one that will last 25+ years Won't find one at the Big-Box Store. Do a google search to find a dealer near you. Oh and they are still made in U.S.A.
I have lived abroad and have owned combination washer/dryers that are one single machine, requires no exhaust tubing, and can manage water to clothing weight ratios on its own... I don't see them in the U.S., but the same manufacturers in the U.S. sell these single machine washer/dryer combos abroad. My current combo machine (Samsung 5410AW/SGWD70J) works well, and costs about the same price as one single good machine sold in the U.S. Since you mentioned other countries in this video, why not mention the single multipurpose machines as well?
Because these machines which are combinated washing machines and dryers are crap. They've always been crap. My parents got one 30 years ago. Even some manufacturers disadvise their own combination models. And if you have a massive load of laundry it's better to have two appliances. If the first load is in the dryer you can already wash the second load. With a combination appliance you can't do that. And sometimes you must remove wet laundry from the combination because, for example, the washing part can handle 6kg of laundry. But the dryer part only 4kg. We've used one too, but it didn't last as long as two separate appliances. Washing machines in my family always lasted round about 15 to 20 years.
I figure manufacturers would rather you buy two machines rather than one. Especially in the US where houses are bigger and have more space for separate machines. Houses in Europe and older apartments in the US are smaller and need smaller and fewer appliances.
We have an LG front loader washer and it uses a gallon per load and all though it is not the one with the tiny washer it will sense the load and put just the right amount of water
How often do you wash your sleeping bag? As a life long BSA member I have only washed them a couple of times, and that was only when absolutely necessary.
When I wash bulky items like sleeping bags, comforters, and pet beds, I use front-load Speed Queen or IPSO (also made by Speed Queen's parent, Alliance Laundry Systems) machines at the coin laundry at the corner. By the way, their top-load clothes washers are more than 30 years old. They're Speed Queens. I bought the new Speed Queen "classic" TC5000WN a month ago, and it handles even bulky blankets with no problems. The washer was $1140 delivered and installed with new hoses, but I expect never to have to buy another one.
They deliberately use brackets to attach the wash tub that get eaten away when people use too much detergent, then encourage people to use too much detergent. Most front loaders fail due to excessive detergent use.
@@5610winston The long warranty doesn't cover the mounting bracket for the drum, only the stainless drum itself. The Speed Queens tend to use more water though, as they just fill instead of taking ages to sense water level, so at least they should have lower (and therefore less detrimental) detergent concentrations in most cases.
The first washer he showed, using 40 gal. of water, is for the largest load. Most washer machines have different load settings, which will save on water. We have a 12 year old, Whirlpool Cabrio top loader washer machine, that uses a load sensor to select the water level based off the weight of the clothes. Ours uses a magnetic stator, instead of a motor to spin/wash the clothes. It spins the clothes up to 900 RPM, removing most of the water to help with drying times. We have the matching drier as well, which uses sensors, throughout the cycle to sense the dryness of the clothes. It will either add more time or shorten the drying time. They both work very well and easy for me to repair.
You dumbass The speed of a washing machine isn't mph but measured in rpm(revolutions per minute) and front loading washing machines are even better as many of the very modern ones spin at 1,400rpm or higher
Hi Sir, no need for name calling. You are correct which was my mistake. I edited my response. Thanks. Also, if your concerned about saving water, a front loader is the way to go. If you want your clothes cleaner, a top load washer, with an agitator, is the way to go. They are known for cleaning cloths better.
I don't think it's that much water but one thing is for certain your getting clean clothes with the older units, your clothes smell clean not like a gym like most clothes do with these fancy washers
It's the WM9000 set, which MSRPs for about $4000 including the sidekick pedestal. No one pays MSRP for appliances, the entire set on sale runs about $3000 including installation and parts. Additionally, those specific models have been in production for going on 3 years. It isn't uncommon for appliance models to be in manufacture for around 5 years before being replaced with a slightly updated version. Given that the WM9000 has a direct drive motor and a built in water heater (the only two major advancements in laundry in the last 20 years) I wouldn't expect them to be obsolete any time soon.
Brandon Deboer Built-in water heaters aren’t a new thing - they’ve been common in front-load washers for years. (Outside of North America, washers have always had built-in heaters, because hot water connections to the washers are not normally present!) Americans just aren’t used to seeing them, that’s all.
@@tookitogo I mean, I did say in the last 20 years. 20 years ago, NA laundry units never included a built in water heater. Now most units from the mid-range up do. My point was that there isn't a ton of innovation in laundry machines outside of direct drive motors and built in heaters, and therefore the machines likely won't be obsolete for a very long time. They've slowly improved efficiency and we're starting to see energy star rated dryers, but we haven't seen any major mechanical changes in decades. And even then, energy star rated dryers fake it anyway...
I wash my sleeping bag after each use, about twice a year. For that I can go to the coin laundry for about $3.50 double-loader front-load machine and wash my regular laundry at home in an effective top-load Speed Queen TC5000WN.
Junky laundry room with top-of-the-line washer and dryer, makes no sense. For that laundry room I would’ve bought the cheapest set there is and put it in there. Putting stainless steel hoses on any of these new washers almost makes no sense because the hoses will outlast the washer.
You are a person that's not very economical then using those water guzzling top loading washing machines instead of a more efficient front loading washing machine Your old machine will fail eventually meaning eventually you will have to get a new machine
I live my whole life in Europe, it's a funny sight to see all those top loaders lined up in a store. The only time i've seen & used them was 8 months in Australia. But whatever floats your boat i guess ;-)
Here in the USA, nearly all commercial washing machines are front-loaders... ie: in hotels, laundry mats, etc. However, for personal home use, the top-loader design has been the most common since the electric washing machine was invented here In the USA over 100 years ago. In recent years, front-loaders have gained a lot of ground in homes, making up about 70% of the residential market... but top-loaders are still cheaper, easier to repair, and more reliable.
captainthrall I agree for the most part. Back as far as the 1930's, Westinghouse made front loaders for the consumer market. For the longest time, they were the only company making them, and continued when White Consolidated Industries bought them in 1974, and a year later, it became White Westinghouse. It would be 1996, that White Consolidated Industries would switch the front loaders over to the Frigidaire brand. In 1998 or 1999, Maytag introduced the Neptune washer, and became the first front loader without a window on it. In 2001, they decided to have Samsung make their front loaders. In 2006, after Whirlpool bought Maytag, Maytag washers (both top and front loaders) were made by Whirlpool. In the 50's to early 70's, Whirlpool, GE, and Philco Bendix made washer/dryer combos. Those were discontinued, due to costly repairs, and most people didn't like that combo units took as long as 4 hours to wash and dry. People complained back then that front loaders didn't clean clothes as well. At least front loaders back then used water, unlike most of today's front loaders (I had to hack mine so it used extra water). At least for me, I find jeans get clean better in a front loader, because they're constantly tumbled. In a top loader, I found that they didn't move around as much. Also, I can wash up to 10 pairs of jeans in my current front loader (8 in my old one), but only 4 or 5 pairs of jeans in a top loader. Before I forget, when front loaders were out in the 50's and up, there was no such thing as high efficiency detergent (or low sudsing). So most Americans oversudded their machines. Detergents through the 80's were classic 1 cup formula for powder, and half cup for liquid. Back then, you had to use half the amount that a top loader called for. My old Frigidaire front loader even stated that you had to use half the amount of what the detergent called for.
If bronze splitters are better and stainless steel hoses.... I'm looking into these washers.... Just wondering ... would installation people use these if asked or do they have to go with the parts they bring.... Due to warranty
I have a Maytag washer and dryer I purchased 32 years ago. It is still going strong, I dread the day it goes out and I have to look around for a new washer and dryer. Most of my friends are very dissatisfied with their newer washers and dryers. Too much computer junk inside and very expensive to repair.
I bought a LG HE washer with matching dryer , but I'm confused as to why they put the cold water outlet on the left hand side , your wall mounted outlets are hot left and cold right which is standard , so your hoses will cross when you hook it up ??? Would love to know why unless in South Korea , their hot and cold is opposite?
That exhaust ducting is prone to fill with lint and catch fire or cause a fire from getting plugged up. The right thing to do is to use proper aluminum ducts. That ducting is illegal in many jurisdictions.
Clean mine once a year and I've literally never encountered any sort of blockage that would warrant a fire hazard. Clean your lint traps and you won't have a problem.
@@elninostorm I should add that these fiexible tubes are illegal in many places due to the fire risk. I had one and replaced it, we clean out our lint trap every load we do. The plastic tube style tends to build up, the aluminum tube doesn't.
I've read top loading non HE are more reliable and clean better. My Maytag HE front loader pump went bad 2x in 15 years. No pre-filter before the pump. I added one and the pump has been ok for 13 years. NOW it shakes like crazy and I can't level it. I push on the right front panel and it quiets down. What's a good one????
The best washing machines ever made were in 1950's to late 1970's. My aunt still has a 1976 whirlpool washer/dryer. The motor in the dryer went out, so my uncle had it rebuilt for 50 bucks. Those old washer's you turn on the hot water you got hot water. New washers, you turn out hot, you just get luke warm water.
XYtruck25 older machines use more water and electric which makes them more expensive to run. Here in the U.K. top loaders haven’t been seen since the early 80s
Every washing machine that you can currently buy uses purely your hot tap when set to the hottest setting. Most higher end washers have built in water heaters that heat the water past whatever your hot tap is set to. So yeah, you're wrong there by a mile. It's also important to understand that your old washer and dryer from the 50s costs an order of magnitude more to run than a modern machine. It's like saying a 1970s Jeep CJ is better than a Prius because it costs less to fix. You're not wrong, it does cost less to fix. It also gets 7 miles per gallon compared to 50. Fixating on a single aspect of older machines and then claiming they're superior is just ignorant.
@@mikestanley4457 : Maytag "Commercial" is not Maytag anymore, Whirlpool bought Maytag and replaced the Maytag technology with Whirlpool. piece of crap!!!
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Fails to explain that those retail front load machines are fraught with problems and not that robust from a construction problem. Would agree with another person who is posting, that it would be better for the money spent to by a front load Speed Queen -maybe a Horizon. Service on these retail machines from places like Home Depot is gonna be costly. I am in the laundry business.
Today's front loaders, compared to a model I bought in 1999, overall don't use enough water. My Frigidaire from 1999 filled until the clothes got wet, and the level was reached. Another thing I liked about my old washer, is that it sprayed the water directly into the tub, onto the clothes. My LG sprays the water directly into the bottom of the shell, and the clothes have to continuously tumble, while the tub fills, using a rising effect. Because of the original setting for the water level, clothes in the middle stayed dry the entire cycle. After looking on TH-cam to see how to fix the water level issue, I adjusted the water level, to where it continued to fill, until all the clothes got wet, and the level still allowed me to open the door, if I needed to add clothes. I forgot to mention that I have an LG set, and mine is the cheapest model that costed me $672 in 2012, on sale. So far, 5 years later, it's holding up. Once I can come up with the money for a Speed Queen front loader, I'll get one. For now, I have to settle for my LG.
@@znrctrnn Smart appliances make a massive difference. They are the to go models to go all over the world. In the US though, vastly overpriced, limited selections.
After 4 HE frontloader washers in 8 years, we decided to get a refurbished 1962 Maytag. Some newer components such as a lighter tub, lower drag/profile agitator, newer direct drive motor. Yeah, you can have your HE washers. This puppy actually cleans clothes and uses less water than you would think. Where you save a tiny bit on water(super abundant), you're going to be spending out of your rear on transportation/repairs/replacements/maintenance. And I'm willing to bet I know which one will last 20+ years.
Not to mention the front load machines are probably the worst on the market. They have the stink issues with the door gasket and they are more expensive by far to repair.
HAH! Well, buy them for yourself. All my failed front loaders suggest otherwise. Top loaders are objectively superior when it comes to reliability, noise, and cleaning performance. They don't come anywhere near the water or energy usage Richard claims. Not only is this true for my household, but for my entire family, all of my friends, everyone I know in real life. Front loaders are utter rubbish and there is a reason when consumers have a fair selection of both (like in the US), they choose a top loader more than 70% of the time. Wherever you live, MKRM27, your selection of top loaders must be utter garbage.
Topher Knows Yep. I just bought whatever was new and GENERIC and on sale $700-800 out the door. Want to save? Buy a correctly sized machine. Still runs strong.
When used properly, HE washers work better in every single metric compared to agitators. They're more efficient, clean better, and are gentler on the clothes. The key is WHEN USED PROPERLY. A vast majority of people treat their HE machines exactly like an agitator. They don't pay attention to how they load the machines, how much detergent they used, or even what kind of detergent. I've found the same people who assume HE machines are awful believe consumer reports is the bible, so do yourself a favor and actually read CR. Not a single agitator machine compares to an HE machine.
I am a laundry professional, you cannot clean clothes without adequate water. thats a problem with the front loaders they make now. Water should come up to at least 1/3 of the glass to provide adequate agitation and dilution of soil and soap.
@@frederickwiley8204 Pretty interesting because I own one and it works fantastically. And basically every review publication rates HE machines better in terms of cleaning performance. The Association of Home Appliances (AHAM) also uses front load machines as the standard for cleaning performance; essentially they take the best cleaning front loader and measure all other machines against it to test cleaning performance because nothing cleans better than a front load machine. I'm not sure what a laundry professional is. If it's a dry cleaner or a laundromat owner, you have a vested interest in protecting your business by downplaying the effectiveness of home machines, so I get it. If it's a sales person, you may want to spend some time researching the machines you sell. When every publication available contradicts your theory about more water equating to cleaner clothes, then your information is probably out of date.
@@MPInvictus I have no vested interest, Yes I am a retired, as of May 2019. Dry cleaner, Industrial laundry ( work uniforms, linens, etc, coin laundry owner. I have seen and washed more laundry in one week, than you and your so called authorities will do in a lifetime. Years ago industry professional labs tested water levels in relation to cleaning. test after test proved higher water levels . produced cleaner garments, towels, table cloths, everything. This was against industry norms as every one thought lower levels of water created more beating of fabric to remove soil. Test proved this wrong. Higher water levels resulted in more soil removal and whiter fabrics. There are thousand of comments all over the internet berating today's washers, front and top load. All this was done because of government regulations .If water levels were raised just 2 to 3 inches above the bottom of the glass, they would still be water efficient and clean fabrics so Americans would buy them and be pleased. I think the long wash times, rewashing of loads, unbalanced loads, all resulting in more electric usage negates a lot of energy savings. I can tell you emphatically that my 2017 Speed Queen top loader out cleans my Bosch, LG, and Kenmore front loaders and my Kenmore top of the line top loader.So you see I have used all these machines over the last 20 years at my home and work. In coin laundries I used Speed Queen, Whirlpool, GE, Frigidaire, Kenmore,Hotpoint,Easy, Wascomat, Ametek, over 50 years dealing in the laundry, dry cleaning, and industrial laundry industry. Hands on experience. I am done but still have an interest in getting clothes clean.
@@frederickwiley8204 20 years ago you might have been correct, but out of date evidence by a nameless lab and internet commenters is not evidence. Yes, there are thousands of people who hate HE machines. But there are even more thousands who love their HE machines. Very few machines have customer ratings under 4 stars, obviously indicating that the good reviews outweigh the bad. People who have a bad experience (read, dont know how to use the machine) tend to talk the loudest but the review numbers dont lie.
The Best Stooge they are not notorious for leaks! In Europe we have had them for decades, they very very rarely leak. Certainly I have never had one leak. Top loaders were discontinued here by most manufacturers in the early 1980's as people realised they were crap, took up too much space, were inefficient, used way too much water and electricity and caused more damage to clothes. Toploaders belong in a museum, not in a modern home.
Plan to spend some more time at the Laundry matt, when you have to wait weeks for someone to repair it. Should have stuck to a top loader with an impeller. O that's right, not politicly correct. This Old House sold out.
It never ceases to amaze me how backward American households are in so many ways. In the UK (and most of Europe) we have been using more efficient, and better performing front loaders for decades - my grandmother used to use a top loader - and she was about the only person I knew who still did - she died in the 1980s! Why have two machines, when one will both wash AND dry?? Throw dirty washing in, and get clean and properly dried washing out - simples. We've been doing it, like I say for decades!! I have had an Ariston machine for about 17+ years now that washes and dries (and I don't mean just spin (which it does very well) I think mine is 1500rpm, but newer ones are much faster than that even) - proper drying mechanisms built in. The only maintenance issue was when some debris from a pocket blocked a filter - my stupidity. Never gone wrong, no exhaust hose needed. SO much easier! It is 'Woolmark' approved as well, meaning it isrecommended by the Wool manufacturers too! Electrically, the USA are in the dark ages, only just introducing shielded sockets as an 'added safety feature in the past few years. Again, in the UK, we have had these as standard (and by law) for decades, making it impossible for little fingers to be stuck in to sockets - yes, our plugs are much bigger, but they are universal, they all carry fuses, no need for special sockets for high draw appliances - everything uses the same. Everything is rated at 230 volts, so no need for special circuits. It can be so much simpler!
24" aren't small, its the standard size all over Europe and the far east for everyone from single people to large families, in fact pretty much every kitchen appliance, cookers, fridges, freezers, washers, dryers, dishwashers and anything else are all under 24" wide, it's the standard size gap left in kitchens for white goods, my combo will do a quick wash for lightly soiled clothes in 15 minutes and dry in about 30
Don't forget, when you turn down the adjusting feet, turn the lock nuts up against the unit's chassis. Otherwise, the feet could loose adjustment over time.
I was wondering the reason for the two nuts.
@@indnajns that's what she said.
WOO!!!!!!!!!! That baby looks good. Start saving for repair bills. Surprised at this old House.
Home owner warranty
Well, I have a matched pair of LG HE front loader washer & dryer, use them a few times each week, have been working perfectly for over 12 years, no repairs, still going strong. I never had a problem with my old gas-heated dryers before that, but I went through a few tradition top loader washer (all name brands) that started to leak or have other issues before they were even 8 years old. My LG machines are definitely "smart" devices, run by small computers. So based on my own experience, I don't agree that modern "smart" washer/dryers = low reliability and/or expensive repair bills. I do think it can have a lot to do with the brand, as there are definitely less expensive and probably lower reliability brands that my LG ones. I have heard great things about Bosch as well.
@@youtuuba You just got very lucky lol.
@Warp2090 ,are you an expert, with a huge number of data points to analyze? If not, then you are just one person with an opinion or experience, and in no position to decide that my very positive experience is "LOL" compared to your experience.
For what it is worth, my sister and brother bought similar LG models at around the same time I bought mine, and their experience has been the same as mine. Apparently it is not just me that is lucky.
The information on water usage and what type of products to purchase was excellent. But my question to you is why are you using a cheap dryer vent hose and a potential fire risk?
I was surprised as well that that wasn't mentioned as something the home owner would have to address.
My mothers house drier vent got so cloged took 2 runs of the drier. i replace (with the same new hose (15 years ago i didnt know)) it and only needed half of the drier run.
Most of the new washers have a computer system that when it goes out makes the washer a throw away as the cost of repair does not make it economical. Went back to the old style washer and dryer that are easy and cheap to fix. Have had mine for 15 years. My smart washer lasted 2 years.
What kind did you get and where did you get it? Thanks.
@@melissacook5186Frigidaire. I bought it second hand when it 6 or 7 years old. Still going strong. It does break down every few years but normally an easy fix as parts are easy to get. After my Smart washer died I had 3 different repairmen tell to buy older style washers and keep them as the smart washers are normally not repairable.
If you have one of the old style agitator top loaders, KEEP IT! Repairs are almost always easy DIY things. I kept mine going for 47 years. The so-called "high efficiency" top loaders are very poor designs that tend to damage fabrics. They often have no basket brakes or filters, balance poorly, have weak cabinets. They are unlikely to be durable. If you have one of them, be sure to plug it into a surge suppressor and keep your fingers crossed.
The auto-balancing are auto-nightmares! The "sensing" happens and then the "balancing" happens and then the knocking of the floating base happens...and you come running to see if the washing machine is broke. High-efficiency means you physically have to dump more water in yourself with a bucket or wash 4 pieces of clothes.
The auto balancing is a nightmare , I just brought a sensor over a year. it pure problem. when it reach the final spin it like it broken.
@@marciawellington6080 When mine breaks I'm going to buy a used washer of the old type....MUCH better.
@@wholeNwon that is a waste modern machines are the best
@@stephensnell1379 Mine certainly isn't. And is actually less energy/water efficient than my old machine...when used as I must use it.
get a used top loader and dryer for the fraction of the cost and save tons of money down the road.
@Steve Jones Who cares? 40 gallons of tap water costs about 8 cents and it gets your clothes clean. The "high efficiency" ones don't clean your clothes as well. Not to mention the unit costs WAY more.
@Steve Jones it doesn't matter either you want clean clothes or stink clothes because the less water the less it could get all of that sweat and stains out trust me
"and save tons of money down the road." yeah no old dryers are horrendous with energy usage. Even if it lasts half as long a heat pump dryer will easily pay for itself quickly. Just get stuff from decant brands like Bosch and LG.
Just bought a nice used set for $350 delivered to the curb🏆
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d might as well get a wringer washer?
Richard favorite words ever: “FULL CITY WATER PRESSURE”
lmao yes
Actually, full city water pressure is usually stepped down by a regulator in the main supply for the house. The water heater and cold water supply to the faucets and appliances are usually 40 to 80 psi rather than the city 150 to 160 psi.
@@5610winston Yes. That's why everyone jokes about it.
I wish I could walk into the store and just say "BOOM! I'll take the most expensive one you've got".
He picks the washer w/o asking price... TV much?
@@6789uiop no? I did that too
I'm assuming the show paid for them.
If you did it would undoubtedly be the most expensive one. Wait till the appliance repairman comes and tells that your washer needs a new pcb or main bearing.
@@znrctrnn \ True. The new stuff is made to fail. I seen junk yards filled with them. Its bs that the market is so dominated..they must work together or something...they all seem to be made to fail. Its not like they forgot how to build them
Which one do you want?
That one over there.
No stick to the script well pay for it
Oh uh this one right here
Really wow ok cool
Yeah, that sink on the left corner of our screen was wayyyyy dirty than it should be. Plus, their laundry area is so ugly. They're so lazy, they couldn't even paint the walls or have it done. The floor isn't tiled either.
Now looking at the machines, I'm like...how did they afford it? Or maybe they didn't. They're just actors.
Good old bosch front loader with all aluminum frame inside, stainless steal tub and drum and brass pump will last for a 100 years. I have mine, made in 1992 in germany. I bought it back in 1993 for 1100 dollars. It can wash, and dry. Has a shitload of different settings, has good old transformer relays and clunky diodes for motor regulation. Motor is full copper with huge heavy rotor. Spins up to 3500 rpm and was serviced only ONCE trough the whole time i have it, last year, when motor capasitor failed. I use it every week, cram the drum tight with clothes, and always comes out beautifully cleaned. Will never buy a new front loader, will only keep my trusty bosch front loader, made in 1992.
bosch made for asia is rubbish.
TOH should have mentioned the relative purchase price differences, duration of each wash load, and the cost, likelihood and complexity of repairs. Our LG washer requires 1 hour per load, requires the solenoid to turn and turnoff the water instantly, which caused water hammering, and has a separate waterpump [another part that can fail] to evacuate the wastewater.
Literally every washing machine has a drain water pump
@@andybub45 Not all WM's have a waterpump to remove water. Some use the centrifugal force to expel water. The frontloader LG we have uses little water and energy, but requires more time per wash load (1hr) and has more complexity (including more points for failures), such as the water pump to move water to the drain. The top loaders (such as Maytag) we've had do not have them.
Buddy what…. ALL. Washers have a drain pump. How do you think the water gets PUMPED into the drainage? You thought the spin cycle pushes the water up that far? Well anyways, LG is top for reliability, so enjoy that.
I was also told that the front load washing machines are about 100 lbs heavier than top loaders since they have concrete in them. A good consideration if you are moving in the near future. The other downside is that sometimes they can get moldy or mildewy in the rim around the door.
For the mildew leave the door open after use so the rubber gasket completely dries.
Another problem with front loaders is they can shake vigorously if mounted on a pedestal and on a second floor.
@@Miguel195211 we leave door open they get moldy and mildewy anyway unless you live in a desert with really dry air
if the house has a gas water heater, they should of ran a gas line and installed a gas dryer since gas is cheaper to operate and produces more heat compared to an electric dryer
gas dryer? wtf?? im from the UK lol
yeah gas dryers get hot AF. I washed and dried a load of clothes before bed and left them in the basket and the clothes in the center were still warm in the middle in the morning.
Same here, but you never know when you have to dry cloth quickly so it still come in handy at least a few times a month.
They probably didn't find it a such matter in that case then what it would with the water heater or furnace
Running another gas line or even a splitter is very expensive plus it depends if you house has gas already because if not you are looking at a huge project
bless your hands, you're amazing and this washer and dryer are amazing good for the lovely couple
The questions they need to be asking is how easy these things are to work on and how the designs are different in the mechanics. I want the steak, not the sizzle.
you say how easy is these things to work on ??? well first you call a real tech to work on it and he will give you a price it is that easy.... Haha ... and you will pay a hell of a lot to get it fixed and then it will break down again and you can call a tech to give you a price to repair it again and it will never stop... Haha...
Lg machines are easy to service and extremely reliable
For over 30+ years my parents and there family have been doing front loaders in England and in Ireland so it was an easy choice to go front loader
double the the laundry, half the water, 50x the price.
Also they won't wash as well.
homes24 no agitator clothes not clean
Be lucky if only 2x as much to repair.
Liberal thinking! Ban light bulbs, ban regular washing machines, fancy toilets make you flush 15 times! Trump will fix it!
@@BlueHen123 \ I dont get the last part. The President does not have that much power and i doubt todays libs would acknowledge him fixing anything.... But ehh
I had a front loading Kenmore Elite but sold it to a friend when I bought my house since the house came with a unitized washer/dryer combo. I liked the capacity of the front loader but the old school top loader takes 1.5 hours less for a heavy duty wash cycle.
I discovered front loaders when my kids were babes in arms 20 years ago. When we switched from a top loader our water bill dropped by about 40% in one month. Not only that but it cleaned our cloths so much more thoroughly we could actually feel the difference when we got dressed after the first wash cycle. The really dark color of the first rinse water was also a clue indicating how much cleaner our cloths were. We've used nothing else since and wouldn't consider a top loader ever again.
Wait I am confused by your comment. You mentioned to switched to a top loader and your water bill dropped? Based on this video top loader use more water ?? No? And then at the end you said you would not consider top loader???
@@irodashamurotova4968 We switched from top loader to front loader.
Any tips on the brand of front loader?
@@grumpyschnauzer We've had ours a while. I'd check with consumer reports for the latest information.
@@grumpyschnauzer LG is the best performing and most reliable
I love how they use the water consumption of a top loader doing a *superwash to make the water consumption look as bad as possible
Home Depot gave them the free washers to encourage others to get the most expensive models
Super wash doesn’t affect water use…. It just lengthens the wash
I fix appliances for a living and if I were you I'd avoid those toploaders without agitators like a plague. No agitators puts a lot of stress on the bearing so if you fill more than a 1/4 of that drum it'd looses the bearing and wreck your washer over a year
yes, but don't the top loaders only use the water thats needed. They never get filled just enough to soak the clothes, correct?
@@carlbernnglyou need to fill it correctly
They don't need a dryer since modern washers don't use any water!!!!!!!
😂😭😭
The Elevator World
No water. 😳. Which washer don't need water. ?😳
David he’s just joking
GregSoEpic
🤪. Thanks. 🙏
What the heck of course washers use water
I'm seeing a lot of comments about mold and mildew in front loaders. Most manufacturers have added a drain inside that rubber seal so water no longer puddles there.
Also when installing, be sure to tighten the lock nuts on the feet and if using pedestals use the included hardware to attach the unit to the pedestals. You don't want them falling off.
Michael Taylor American in Europe here. Are you saying that American appliance companies made front-loaders **without** the little drain? Mind. Blown. That is such an amateur mistake I can’t even. (Every washer I’ve used here in Europe has had the drain in the rubber seal, cuz, like... duh.)
It's not an amateur mistake, it's about selling as many washers as possible and maximizing profits. Distraction by marketing that focuses on appearance and bells and whistles. Consumerism in the US.
@@tookitogo For the first few years they existed in the US a lot of them didn't have drains, so they quickly gained a reputation for growing mold there. It's been fixed for a long time, but it's one of those things that just stuck with people because they never bothered to really pay attention.
@@francoamerican4632 Nonsense. You can’t sell tons and tons of machines if you develop a bad reputation.
@@Studio23Media That makes sense.
#1 answer... One you can buy the spider-arm bearings and seal's separately on the washer period, these are the biggest wear parts on any front loader machine and the biggest thing to consider. Or just individual parts in general. Some company's force you to buy ENTIRE assembly's for almost half the cost of the machine instead of a 40-50 dollar separate part. Whirlpool is notorious for this. So the VERY first question you ask, and ask as if you already own the machine. Are the spider arm bearings and seal available separately for purchase.
LG TROMM WM1832CW = YES. Maytag Neptune MAH4000AWQ = YES. Frigidaire Front loader GLTR1670AS1 = NO>
Don’t get a base for your washer and dryer, on a concrete floor gives best chance of no shaking and less noise
Especially if you have the washer on a second floor on a pedestal and front load it can shake vigorously. Believe I know all too well.
Buy a good used one, vintage style on craigslist or repair it yourself, or switch it out with another rebuilt one. I can just imagine the cost of an electronic circuit board replacement two hundred plus dollars, or maybe they don't make the board anymore so your force to buy a new appliance. There goes all your savings on utilities.
But you also forget that clothes last 10x as long when you use a front loader. Top loaders, with or without an agitator, rip them to shreds. Buy a $10 surge protector.
Right. The very best machines are all about 15 years old. They are are still a lot of them out there on craigs list and even one used is still a better value than the crap on the showroom floors now
I need to stockpile parts for my old machine. No way do I want one of those new, "no water" washers.
Honestly the old fashioned machines still work. We had a Kenmore that was older than me Im 31 the machine was two years older. It died sometime in 08! The brand dryer we have is called " Capri " that damn dryer is STILL kicking it's 34 year's old I shit you NOT. 😂 The new washing machine we have is an " Amriel" something like that. It's pretty good. Get's the job done.
They have Maytags from over 50 years ago that are still working. They not only lasted longer, they washed better too. So much is about gimmicks these days.
@@ctournethaving a separate drum at the bottom is an overkill
Remember to tighten the counter nut on the hight adjustment. :D
ya, i noticed he missed that too
In real world the most important thing is the price and the art of balancing price, the space it takes and how good it is...
5:28 Smashing it into the wall took 5 years off from it's service life.
Nobody is mentioning how bad the dryer range looks.
Awesome!.... do the math. Residential water per 1,000 Gallons is $ 1.13. The 40 gallons will cost you 4.5 cents per load. Is it worth spending thousand of dollars on front loader, just to save 3 cents on load?
East Park Home you have to heat that water too- which will cost substantially more than the cost of the water! Anyway, no need to spend this sort of money- front load washers have been standard in the UK for about 40 years, too loaders are almost unheard of. A cheap front loader can be had for about £150- that's less than $200. Yes, you can spend much, much more, but even the very best brand available- Miele - start from £650 and are designed to last at least 20 years.
front loader is not popular in south east asia, top loader is because they are 3 times cheaper than front loader.
A. S.L I was going to comment same. Another thing top loader actually uses less water. Would love to buy dryer for rainy season though.
I prefer top loaders honestly
Don't forget the top loaders are huge water guzzlers, front loading washing machines are the best and they are also much gentler on clothes
I love my front loader - I also recommend the ones that automatically put in the detergent so you dont overdo it and make it gross. Clean it out once a month and you're golden.
2:25 I had one of these washers and it developed rust around the blue dispenser on the corner. Don't buy LG... they will blame you for rust. So many consumers had rust issues with LG topload washers
Yeah, I'd be real surprised if both of those units are still working today. I can't imagine what those things cost.
Front loading washing machines are extremely efficient for both water and electricity usage just like modern dryers
@@stephensnell1379 Lmfao, until the spider and tub bearing disintegrate and the repair man quotes you $800 to repair it.
And no, we don't budge on the price. Its a complete disassembly, and 75% of it is parts cost.
@@RemnentPlays That is usually the end of it. Unless you are willing to do it yourself and have the patience. Replacing a bearing/or spider assembly is a full tear down of the machine.
in europe we almost exclusive uses front loading machines and they work good, they can last 10 years without any problem, and most of the time even longer than that, my aunt has a washing machine 25 years old
Jealous?
Wow! This is the 1st time I've seen a combo like this, and it actually looks pretty cool 😎😎😎....I'm jealous 😂😂😂
Yes and wait for the repair bill, shows up right after the warranty runs out
You guys just seem super salty, LG washers are some of the highest rated for reliability and mines lasted 21 years and counting
They’re at Home Depot
A lot of orange.
You are quite the detective
4:40 Even better I love what you picked out but if you could get t he same thing but where the big drum was both the Washer and the Dryer. This would not only save space but you could set it and forget it. The wash would go like it normally would but instead of pulling the cloths out and putting them in the dryer the same drum would start drying the way you set it. This means if you set the Dry Cycle High the dryer part will turn on and dry on high.
Anybody notice that not even once was reliability brought up.
These are typical American Consumers. All wrapped up in the glitz, stainless steel, the chrome. All the cool features, the light show it puts on for you and even the lullibye it sings to reassure you that alls well. Wonder how much they're going to love that shiny bright showroom look when it fails is 14 months, just out of warranty? And then again?
The folks that are smart and know value, walk past these "fabulous" machines, and pick up what is a simple washer with a few cycles and hopefully still with a mechanical timer, and will give many years of trouble free service, and when it does, no $375 main control module to replace.
But there will always be the two camps.... One is focused solely on looks and glamour (She imagines how she will be the envy of the neighborhood with her glitzy new laundry set, the status symbol) while the other has performance and value in mind (and laughs all the way to the bank with another deposit).
According to Consumer Reports front load LGs full of electronics are among the most reliable and best washing and efficient washers on the USA market. Old and simple doesn't always mean better.
This guy put way too much thought into this.
@@kokovox bulshit I'm an appliance repair Tech old fashioned direct drive systems are the best
@@jimvossen8417 You are absolutely correct. I fix all my own appliances except refrigeration compressors. I also help buddies unless they have the new computer controlled garbage.
@@on4acres because alot of people don't. He's standing up against planned obsolescence by major corporations
Those faucet double-taps can deteriorate. I had one that corroded in approx 5 years internally at the swivel, which clearly wasn't all-brass, and break off when I bumped it.
WHat happened to the shipping bolts? DId you forgot to remove those too?
Those was likely removed off camera
Oh something I forgot to mention, yes they may use more water but unless your not allowed to do so by local ordinances, drain the water out onto a tree, plant bed or your lawn. Also Richard, just fyi, complaints registered with laundry mats since they have put in the front loading machines have quadrupled. How do I know, I work for a laundry mate company answering complaints.
…drain the contaminated waste water with all the chemicals into a flower bed?
I just get my servants to go down the river to hand wash my clothes. Who needs a washing machine now a days,PHSSSSST!
Wow we got Hillary Clinton here.
Joe Flavor
You mean Trump. You know the dude who gold accented his home.
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LMAO!!
Chidrole I
LOL, so he managed to upsell them on the cool new front loader machine with the extra washer underneath. Nice!
That 220 outlet look pretty shakey
Get a Top Loading Speed Queen if you want one that will last 25+ years
Won't find one at the Big-Box Store. Do a google search to find a dealer near you.
Oh and they are still made in U.S.A.
Agreed!
I have lived abroad and have owned combination washer/dryers that are one single machine, requires no exhaust tubing, and can manage water to clothing weight ratios on its own... I don't see them in the U.S., but the same manufacturers in the U.S. sell these single machine washer/dryer combos abroad. My current combo machine (Samsung 5410AW/SGWD70J) works well, and costs about the same price as one single good machine sold in the U.S.
Since you mentioned other countries in this video, why not mention the single multipurpose machines as well?
Because these machines which are combinated washing machines and dryers are crap. They've always been crap. My parents got one 30 years ago. Even some manufacturers disadvise their own combination models.
And if you have a massive load of laundry it's better to have two appliances. If the first load is in the dryer you can already wash the second load. With a combination appliance you can't do that. And sometimes you must remove wet laundry from the combination because, for example, the washing part can handle 6kg of laundry. But the dryer part only 4kg.
We've used one too, but it didn't last as long as two separate appliances. Washing machines in my family always lasted round about 15 to 20 years.
I figure manufacturers would rather you buy two machines rather than one. Especially in the US where houses are bigger and have more space for separate machines. Houses in Europe and older apartments in the US are smaller and need smaller and fewer appliances.
Combination washer/ dryers are available in the US, but most of them are very small, like for use in a RV.
Combination washer and dryer isn't durable and will fail in under 24 months any person knows that
Washer dryer combo machines are way more common in the UK
We have an LG front loader washer and it uses a gallon per load and all though it is not the one with the tiny washer it will sense the load and put just the right amount of water
Nothing like running water directly over a 220 Volt electrical junction box.
at least his drum set and Bongos will be ok..!! 🤣😂
How often do you wash your sleeping bag? As a life long BSA member I have only washed them a couple of times, and that was only when absolutely necessary.
When I wash bulky items like sleeping bags, comforters, and pet beds, I use front-load Speed Queen or IPSO (also made by Speed Queen's parent, Alliance Laundry Systems) machines at the coin laundry at the corner. By the way, their top-load clothes washers are more than 30 years old. They're Speed Queens.
I bought the new Speed Queen "classic" TC5000WN a month ago, and it handles even bulky blankets with no problems.
The washer was $1140 delivered and installed with new hoses, but I expect never to have to buy another one.
By now the washing machine has probably blown its bearings or drum support bracket...
True
And the splines will have stripped out of the hubcap in the lower washer. LG stand for Lots of Grief.
They deliberately use brackets to attach the wash tub that get eaten away when people use too much detergent, then encourage people to use too much detergent. Most front loaders fail due to excessive detergent use.
Another good reason to select the Speed Queen AWN632 or the SQ front loader. .
Stainless drum, long warranty.
@@5610winston The long warranty doesn't cover the mounting bracket for the drum, only the stainless drum itself. The Speed Queens tend to use more water though, as they just fill instead of taking ages to sense water level, so at least they should have lower (and therefore less detrimental) detergent concentrations in most cases.
The first washer he showed, using 40 gal. of water, is for the largest load. Most washer machines have different load settings, which will save on water. We have a 12 year old, Whirlpool Cabrio top loader washer machine, that uses a load sensor to select the water level based off the weight of the clothes. Ours uses a magnetic stator, instead of a motor to spin/wash the clothes. It spins the clothes up to 900 RPM, removing most of the water to help with drying times.
We have the matching drier as well, which uses sensors, throughout the cycle to sense the dryness of the clothes. It will either add more time or shorten the drying time. They both work very well and easy for me to repair.
You dumbass
The speed of a washing machine isn't mph but measured in rpm(revolutions per minute) and front loading washing machines are even better as many of the very modern ones spin at 1,400rpm or higher
Hi Sir, no need for name calling. You are correct which was my mistake. I edited my response. Thanks. Also, if your concerned about saving water, a front loader is the way to go. If you want your clothes cleaner, a top load washer, with an agitator, is the way to go. They are known for cleaning cloths better.
in europe you can buy a front loading washer with an energy consumption rating of A+++ for 400 euros
...that doesn't clean the clothes
@@bobbyj6410 it does
@@bobbyj6410 front loaders are extremely effective at washing laundry and the high speed spin means the tumble dryer does not need to work as hard
I don't think it's that much water but one thing is for certain your getting clean clothes with the older units, your clothes smell clean not like a gym like most clothes do with these fancy washers
$6,000 later and now, these are obsolete!
LG in malaysia RM7,000.😨
It's the WM9000 set, which MSRPs for about $4000 including the sidekick pedestal. No one pays MSRP for appliances, the entire set on sale runs about $3000 including installation and parts. Additionally, those specific models have been in production for going on 3 years. It isn't uncommon for appliance models to be in manufacture for around 5 years before being replaced with a slightly updated version. Given that the WM9000 has a direct drive motor and a built in water heater (the only two major advancements in laundry in the last 20 years) I wouldn't expect them to be obsolete any time soon.
Brandon Deboer Built-in water heaters aren’t a new thing - they’ve been common in front-load washers for years. (Outside of North America, washers have always had built-in heaters, because hot water connections to the washers are not normally present!) Americans just aren’t used to seeing them, that’s all.
@@tookitogo I mean, I did say in the last 20 years. 20 years ago, NA laundry units never included a built in water heater. Now most units from the mid-range up do. My point was that there isn't a ton of innovation in laundry machines outside of direct drive motors and built in heaters, and therefore the machines likely won't be obsolete for a very long time. They've slowly improved efficiency and we're starting to see energy star rated dryers, but we haven't seen any major mechanical changes in decades. And even then, energy star rated dryers fake it anyway...
Brandon Deboer Italian brands manufactured in 1992 had water heater. That's 27 years ago.
Great and informative video. Thanks. Helped alot with install. Lots of questions answered.
Do your homework.
You can fit the sleeping bag in the he top load but it sure as hell isnt gonna clean it at all
why not?
carlbernngl no contact to the top
I wash my sleeping bag after each use, about twice a year. For that I can go to the coin laundry for about $3.50 double-loader front-load machine and wash my regular laundry at home in an effective top-load Speed Queen TC5000WN.
Why didn't you take out the shipping screws lol for the drum
Junky laundry room with top-of-the-line washer and dryer, makes no sense. For that laundry room I would’ve bought the cheapest set there is and put it in there. Putting stainless steel hoses on any of these new washers almost makes no sense because the hoses will outlast the washer.
I do prefer top load washers but I really like that front loader with the additional mini washer.
Good luck getting it serviced
The Lg brand is so easy to service
Their is no choosing today. I will keep my old Maytag washer. It fills up with water. Only me so I do not wash often.
You are a person that's not very economical then using those water guzzling top loading washing machines instead of a more efficient front loading washing machine
Your old machine will fail eventually meaning eventually you will have to get a new machine
Did ya take the bolts outta the drum after setting up
I wonder why he didn't tell them about the transportation drum locking bolts. That was a crappy lesson to learn.
good job LG, wonderful washers.
I live my whole life in Europe, it's a funny sight to see all those top loaders lined up in a store. The only time i've seen & used them was 8 months in Australia. But whatever floats your boat i guess ;-)
My grandmas house was only time I saw a top loader
Here in the USA, nearly all commercial washing machines are front-loaders... ie: in hotels, laundry mats, etc. However, for personal home use, the top-loader design has been the most common since the electric washing machine was invented here In the USA over 100 years ago.
In recent years, front-loaders have gained a lot of ground in homes, making up about 70% of the residential market... but top-loaders are still cheaper, easier to repair, and more reliable.
captainthrall I agree for the most part. Back as far as the 1930's, Westinghouse made front loaders for the consumer market. For the longest time, they were the only company making them, and continued when White Consolidated Industries bought them in 1974, and a year later, it became White Westinghouse. It would be 1996, that White Consolidated Industries would switch the front loaders over to the Frigidaire brand. In 1998 or 1999, Maytag introduced the Neptune washer, and became the first front loader without a window on it. In 2001, they decided to have Samsung make their front loaders. In 2006, after Whirlpool bought Maytag, Maytag washers (both top and front loaders) were made by Whirlpool. In the 50's to early 70's, Whirlpool, GE, and Philco Bendix made washer/dryer combos. Those were discontinued, due to costly repairs, and most people didn't like that combo units took as long as 4 hours to wash and dry. People complained back then that front loaders didn't clean clothes as well. At least front loaders back then used water, unlike most of today's front loaders (I had to hack mine so it used extra water). At least for me, I find jeans get clean better in a front loader, because they're constantly tumbled. In a top loader, I found that they didn't move around as much. Also, I can wash up to 10 pairs of jeans in my current front loader (8 in my old one), but only 4 or 5 pairs of jeans in a top loader.
Before I forget, when front loaders were out in the 50's and up, there was no such thing as high efficiency detergent (or low sudsing). So most Americans oversudded their machines. Detergents through the 80's were classic 1 cup formula for powder, and half cup for liquid. Back then, you had to use half the amount that a top loader called for. My old Frigidaire front loader even stated that you had to use half the amount of what the detergent called for.
If bronze splitters are better and stainless steel hoses.... I'm looking into these washers.... Just wondering ... would installation people use these if asked or do they have to go with the parts they bring.... Due to warranty
I work for whirlpool, and those foil vents are the absolute worst. They''re also a very serious safety hazard.
Yep. Shocked he didn't recommend replacing it.
I have a Maytag washer and dryer I purchased 32 years ago. It is still going strong, I dread the day it goes out and I have to look around for a new washer and dryer. Most of my friends are very dissatisfied with their newer washers and dryers. Too much computer junk inside and very expensive to repair.
Give your friends 5 more years and they'll be told their machine can't be fixed due to some part not being available.
What he didn’t state was how long it takes those machines to break down and how much you’ll spend repairing them
Reliability is the last thing a salesman talks about
I bought a LG HE washer with matching dryer , but I'm confused as to why they put the cold water outlet on the left hand side , your wall mounted outlets are hot left and cold right which is standard , so your hoses will cross when you hook it up ??? Would love to know why unless in South Korea , their hot and cold is opposite?
as a tech ill say what a waste of money lol those lower units are a pain and expensive to fix
That exhaust ducting is prone to fill with lint and catch fire or cause a fire from getting plugged up. The right thing to do is to use proper aluminum ducts. That ducting is illegal in many jurisdictions.
Clean mine once a year and I've literally never encountered any sort of blockage that would warrant a fire hazard.
Clean your lint traps and you won't have a problem.
@@elninostorm : Your personal care is good. Some people don't clean them for years and this is something that causes fires.
@@elninostorm I should add that these fiexible tubes are illegal in many places due to the fire risk. I had one and replaced it, we clean out our lint trap every load we do. The plastic tube style tends to build up, the aluminum tube doesn't.
this guy is damn good at his job
Yes they are pretty, and so is the repair cost, that shows up right after the warranty expires.
Pat Zeuner depending on where you live, you can still be covered under consumer law
@@timhanby5662 by the time you have to spend to fight for that, you'll spend the equivalent of a new machine at Laundromat
Which one do you want? He picks the most expensive.... Must be nice to pick the most expensive when money is no worry.
He picked that one cause they are trying to get yall to buy the most expensive. It's all a scam.
I've read top loading non HE are more reliable and clean better.
My Maytag HE front loader pump went bad 2x in 15 years. No pre-filter before the pump. I added one and the pump has been ok for 13 years.
NOW it shakes like crazy and I can't level it. I push on the right front panel and it quiets down. What's a good one????
The best washing machines ever made were in 1950's to late 1970's. My aunt still has a 1976 whirlpool washer/dryer. The motor in the dryer went out, so my uncle had it rebuilt for 50 bucks. Those old washer's you turn on the hot water you got hot water. New washers, you turn out hot, you just get luke warm water.
XYtruck25 You are sooooooooooooo right!
XYtruck25 older machines use more water and electric which makes them more expensive to run. Here in the U.K. top loaders haven’t been seen since the early 80s
Every washing machine that you can currently buy uses purely your hot tap when set to the hottest setting. Most higher end washers have built in water heaters that heat the water past whatever your hot tap is set to. So yeah, you're wrong there by a mile. It's also important to understand that your old washer and dryer from the 50s costs an order of magnitude more to run than a modern machine. It's like saying a 1970s Jeep CJ is better than a Prius because it costs less to fix. You're not wrong, it does cost less to fix. It also gets 7 miles per gallon compared to 50. Fixating on a single aspect of older machines and then claiming they're superior is just ignorant.
XYtruck25 you don’t need hot water, most detergents are designed to work as low as 20 degrees, and a wash takes 20 mins
Not many ppl know that whirlpool work on items what they make in Poland and Germans but this company years ago and rebranded like everything else .
I really enjoyed watching this.
How to choose? Speed Queen with dials. You'll be good for the next 20 years
Yup speed queen or Maytag commercial all day. Speed queen just ended a promotion where all their products had a full 10 year warranty
@@mikestanley4457 : Maytag "Commercial" is not Maytag anymore, Whirlpool bought Maytag and replaced the Maytag technology with Whirlpool. piece of crap!!!
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Never heard of Speed Queen. Dang wish I knew before we bought this Whirlpool.
Looking to change my Washing machine
and found this video
it's useful
Thanks
Fails to explain that those retail front load machines are fraught with problems and not that robust from a construction problem. Would agree with another person who is posting, that it would be better for the money spent to by a front load Speed Queen -maybe a Horizon. Service on these retail machines from places like Home Depot is gonna be costly. I am in the laundry business.
Front loaders far superior. I'm in the knowing stuff business.
There's a reason why they use front loaders in laundromats you know
And top loaders, you know. Frontloaders can be stacked, so if you want to stack washers at home, then yes, frontloaders are the better solution.
Bill Timmick lmao get a continental girbau softmount washers. Gets your clothes a lot cleaner
Today's front loaders, compared to a model I bought in 1999, overall don't use enough water. My Frigidaire from 1999 filled until the clothes got wet, and the level was reached. Another thing I liked about my old washer, is that it sprayed the water directly into the tub, onto the clothes. My LG sprays the water directly into the bottom of the shell, and the clothes have to continuously tumble, while the tub fills, using a rising effect. Because of the original setting for the water level, clothes in the middle stayed dry the entire cycle. After looking on TH-cam to see how to fix the water level issue, I adjusted the water level, to where it continued to fill, until all the clothes got wet, and the level still allowed me to open the door, if I needed to add clothes. I forgot to mention that I have an LG set, and mine is the cheapest model that costed me $672 in 2012, on sale. So far, 5 years later, it's holding up. Once I can come up with the money for a Speed Queen front loader, I'll get one. For now, I have to settle for my LG.
I noticed they didn't lock the jam nuts on the pedestal feet after adjusting.
Water efficient washers don't s always clean thoroughly. The more water is used, the cleaner the clothes
Should I hand tighten only, the hoses to the washing machine?
I am going back to the plain Jane model. The smart models are not worth its
Youre smart
You are 100% right. There is absolutely no computer required to clean clothes, despite what the appliance manufacturers have concluded.
@@znrctrnn Smart appliances make a massive difference. They are the to go models to go all over the world.
In the US though, vastly overpriced, limited selections.
I'm not bending down to the bottom to grab detergent. it will be on a shelf (or on top of machine.
$1,200 dryer and richard connects one of those $10 foil hoses for the outlet.
Right? You can't hard duct it in for them?
I actually prefer them. The more solid ones once they get bent out of shape you'll never get it to fit right.
@@Yophillips3272 Foil hoses collect lint MUCH more easily. Solid ducting is the way to go.
I Just clean the lint out every once in awhile. The ones that were really problems are the plastic ones. If they even make them kind anymore. 🔥
@@znrctrnn \ I never had an issue and rarely ever clean the thing. Just make sure you clean the lint collection and you will be fine for years
I'll continue to use my 1969 Whirlpool top loader, and my 1970 proper fan forced heat dryer.
After 4 HE frontloader washers in 8 years, we decided to get a refurbished 1962 Maytag. Some newer components such as a lighter tub, lower drag/profile agitator, newer direct drive motor. Yeah, you can have your HE washers. This puppy actually cleans clothes and uses less water than you would think. Where you save a tiny bit on water(super abundant), you're going to be spending out of your rear on transportation/repairs/replacements/maintenance. And I'm willing to bet I know which one will last 20+ years.
Not to mention the front load machines are probably the worst on the market. They have the stink issues with the door gasket and they are more expensive by far to repair.
+IAmNotAFunguy front loaders are far superior to the outdated top loaders
Maybe in countries like Europe where they are the standard because they've been far more developed.
HAH! Well, buy them for yourself. All my failed front loaders suggest otherwise. Top loaders are objectively superior when it comes to reliability, noise, and cleaning performance. They don't come anywhere near the water or energy usage Richard claims. Not only is this true for my household, but for my entire family, all of my friends, everyone I know in real life. Front loaders are utter rubbish and there is a reason when consumers have a fair selection of both (like in the US), they choose a top loader more than 70% of the time. Wherever you live, MKRM27, your selection of top loaders must be utter garbage.
Topher Knows Yep. I just bought whatever was new and GENERIC and on sale $700-800 out the door. Want to save? Buy a correctly sized machine. Still runs strong.
How about fix your old washer and dryer
It's still very simple. There is only 1 choice - Speed Queen
I agree, they still use metal gears instead of plastic.
You wanted to test it out I like washers as well
1:06 ThAtS wHy YoU gEt A dRyEr
what
Was there a plug in the hot water supply for the washer?
Hate those HE washing machines. Relying on sensors that weigh the clothes to determine how much water to add. It fails miserably.
When used properly, HE washers work better in every single metric compared to agitators. They're more efficient, clean better, and are gentler on the clothes. The key is WHEN USED PROPERLY. A vast majority of people treat their HE machines exactly like an agitator. They don't pay attention to how they load the machines, how much detergent they used, or even what kind of detergent. I've found the same people who assume HE machines are awful believe consumer reports is the bible, so do yourself a favor and actually read CR. Not a single agitator machine compares to an HE machine.
I am a laundry professional, you cannot clean clothes without adequate water. thats a problem with the front loaders they make now. Water should come up to at least 1/3 of the glass to provide adequate agitation and dilution of soil and soap.
@@frederickwiley8204 Pretty interesting because I own one and it works fantastically. And basically every review publication rates HE machines better in terms of cleaning performance. The Association of Home Appliances (AHAM) also uses front load machines as the standard for cleaning performance; essentially they take the best cleaning front loader and measure all other machines against it to test cleaning performance because nothing cleans better than a front load machine.
I'm not sure what a laundry professional is. If it's a dry cleaner or a laundromat owner, you have a vested interest in protecting your business by downplaying the effectiveness of home machines, so I get it. If it's a sales person, you may want to spend some time researching the machines you sell. When every publication available contradicts your theory about more water equating to cleaner clothes, then your information is probably out of date.
@@MPInvictus I have no vested interest, Yes I am a retired, as of May 2019. Dry cleaner, Industrial laundry ( work uniforms, linens, etc, coin laundry owner. I have seen and washed more laundry in one week, than you and your so called authorities will do in a lifetime. Years ago industry professional labs tested water levels in relation to cleaning. test after test proved higher water levels . produced cleaner garments, towels, table cloths, everything. This was against industry norms as every one thought lower levels of water created more beating of fabric to remove soil. Test proved this wrong. Higher water levels resulted in more soil removal and whiter fabrics. There are thousand of comments all over the internet berating today's washers, front and top load. All this was done because of government regulations .If water levels were raised just 2 to 3 inches above the bottom of the glass, they would still be water efficient and clean fabrics so Americans would buy them and be pleased. I think the long wash times, rewashing of loads, unbalanced loads, all resulting in more electric usage negates a lot of energy savings. I can tell you emphatically that my 2017 Speed Queen top loader out cleans my Bosch, LG, and Kenmore front loaders and my Kenmore top of the line top loader.So you see I have used all these machines over the last 20 years at my home and work. In coin laundries I used Speed Queen, Whirlpool, GE, Frigidaire, Kenmore,Hotpoint,Easy, Wascomat, Ametek, over 50 years dealing in the laundry, dry cleaning, and industrial laundry industry. Hands on experience. I am done but still have an interest in getting clothes clean.
@@frederickwiley8204 20 years ago you might have been correct, but out of date evidence by a nameless lab and internet commenters is not evidence. Yes, there are thousands of people who hate HE machines. But there are even more thousands who love their HE machines. Very few machines have customer ratings under 4 stars, obviously indicating that the good reviews outweigh the bad. People who have a bad experience (read, dont know how to use the machine) tend to talk the loudest but the review numbers dont lie.
Front load washers are notorious for leaks around the door and when you least expect it too.
They are very versatile and last for over 10 years
The Best Stooge they are not notorious for leaks! In Europe we have had them for decades, they very very rarely leak. Certainly I have never had one leak. Top loaders were discontinued here by most manufacturers in the early 1980's as people realised they were crap, took up too much space, were inefficient, used way too much water and electricity and caused more damage to clothes. Toploaders belong in a museum, not in a modern home.
Don't listen to every thing you hear.Its not telling you the drawbacks on he units
Yes everyone he is right!!!!
Plan to spend some more time at the Laundry matt, when you have to wait weeks for someone to repair it. Should have stuck to a top loader with an impeller. O that's right, not politicly correct.
This Old House sold out.
That's my story right now!
It never ceases to amaze me how backward American households are in so many ways. In the UK (and most of Europe) we have been using more efficient, and better performing front loaders for decades - my grandmother used to use a top loader - and she was about the only person I knew who still did - she died in the 1980s!
Why have two machines, when one will both wash AND dry?? Throw dirty washing in, and get clean and properly dried washing out - simples. We've been doing it, like I say for decades!! I have had an Ariston machine for about 17+ years now that washes and dries (and I don't mean just spin (which it does very well) I think mine is 1500rpm, but newer ones are much faster than that even) - proper drying mechanisms built in. The only maintenance issue was when some debris from a pocket blocked a filter - my stupidity. Never gone wrong, no exhaust hose needed. SO much easier! It is 'Woolmark' approved as well, meaning it isrecommended by the Wool manufacturers too!
Electrically, the USA are in the dark ages, only just introducing shielded sockets as an 'added safety feature in the past few years. Again, in the UK, we have had these as standard (and by law) for decades, making it impossible for little fingers to be stuck in to sockets - yes, our plugs are much bigger, but they are universal, they all carry fuses, no need for special sockets for high draw appliances - everything uses the same. Everything is rated at 230 volts, so no need for special circuits.
It can be so much simpler!
24" aren't small, its the standard size all over Europe and the far east for everyone from single people to large families, in fact pretty much every kitchen appliance, cookers, fridges, freezers, washers, dryers, dishwashers and anything else are all under 24" wide, it's the standard size gap left in kitchens for white goods, my combo will do a quick wash for lightly soiled clothes in 15 minutes and dry in about 30
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What washing machine would work best with a clothesline?