Hardly, reev and Theo hate Newcastle and just shout at Lewis which then tom laughs and it makes Lewis look stupid while he’s probably the correct one in this conversation
Arsenal have had their main striker out. City have had there 2 best players out. Chelsea have had 4 out of there back 5 out. Liverpool had to play there 3 choice RB out of position at lb. Tottenham have had to play two fullbacks at cb.
I don't like Newcastle but their overall squad isn't even close to the quality of the big boys they majorly over performed last season and yeah they have some quality but some of their players are still championship level so injuries are bound to affect them more
City lost haaland kdb doku stones grealish Utd lost varane lisandro amrabat mount eriksen martial Chelsea lost james chilwell sanchez lavia .... Tot lost maddison romero(red) van de ven bissouma(red) sarr ben10 ... Not just prem(barca real napoli .....)
hardly getting tired it is a valid point when people bring up our performance this season, we have had to play a lot less quality then other teams around us. Melon
I know Specs struggles to put an argument together but I think I would actually agree with him. I think the expectation for Chelsea was that they would recover from last season and be a top team again this season. That hasn’t happened. Don’t think anyone (apart from Lewis) expected Newcastle to stay top 4 and have now been bought down to their actual standard. From a Wolves fan btw
I feel like a lot of the context he applied for Newcastle, you can literally apply for Chelsea. He’s on about Newcastles injuries but there literally hasn’t been a more injury ridden squad than Chelsea this season. Chelsea’s entire back line and most of their good forwards have been injured at many points of the season, so much so that a lot of players have been playing out of position at times. Chelsea have not performed well this season at all and they were expected to be there or there abouts in regards to top 4. But with an injury ridden squad it can’t be easy and with a complete set of new players, as well as being in the final of a cup competition. I think Poch has been better the Howe this season.
To any logical person that wouldn't be the expectation for chelsea. Lewis's arguement of "chelsea spent a billion so the expectation is them too be good" is riduculous, it's impossible to stay at the top level at the prem after completely resetting your team and having too work with 30 new players with no chemistry, this hasn't been seen in football but anyone who follows any other sports knows teams like this don't work and definetly not immediately regardless of how good the players are. Combining that with how poor chelsea was last season after tuchel was sacked it'd probably be expected that chelsea should be doing worse then they currently are hence imo potchettino and chelsea are exceeding expectations this season.
@@BikYsl I wouldn’t go as far to say chelsea are exceeding expectations however chelsea are not doing as bad as a lot of casual people are making them out to be doing. Chelsea with the squad they have are underperforming. Yes it’s a completely new squad but with the talent in said squad and with the way they’ve performed in some games, chelsea should be a lot better. But they are definitely not hopeless and there are serious signs of growth.
That was not the expectation. Objectively you’re wrong. If YOU expected Chelsea to be top again that’s fine, it’s quite clearly a project. You can’t just throw kids together and expect a challenge vs a long settled City & co. I’m surprised I have to explain this to you.
As a chelsea fan, we never expected to finish top 4. This is a new era with a new project and I, and every other chelsea fan I know, didn't have us finishing top 4. I thought 7th tbh. I think the fact that most prem fans have been slating Chelsea has taken away from the fact that we got to a cup final in the worst period over the past20-30 years. I don't think we'll win it but the fact that we got there is enough for most of us
If we're talking about the job according to the squads, Poch has done much worse. Half of Newcastle's squad were part of the team that were 20th. Any club that would have the squad Chelsea have would be massively underperforming in comparison.
@@hammerbags2859he’s saying that they have the same team pretty much when Howe took over when they were 20th and Chelsea have spent a billion and still shite
As mad as some of lewis' shouts are, hes completely correct and the rest are chatting bollocks. Anyone calling for howe's head is delusional, newcastle fan or otherwise.
No one was calling for howe’s head but lewis has no argument besides “1 billion pounds” as if it’s 1 billion of luxury players. Realistically it’s 1 billion over 2 years to replace the core team of both keepers going, rudiger, christenson, azpi, emerson, alonso, kovacic, jorghino, kante, mount, pulusic, ziyech, abraham, giroud, havertz, werner and more. You have to spend that much to replace a whole team and bench
@@joepengelly8403 When you spend 1 billion into any business, you’d expect a great return. So far chelsea have not improved on last season. Compared to newcastle where they have not spent anywhere near that amount. of money yet maintained near that level. Pretty simple.
Lewis actually made good points, I hate Newcastle but they've been riddled with injuries and half their squad is basically championship level, they lost their star signing all season and had UCL football and the group of death. All of that combined is bound to make them struggle. On the flip side Poch came into a team worth about 4x as much and has done abysmal the fact Newcastle have been below par and are still above Chelsea just shows how shit Poch has been.
@lewiss7711 Chelsea haven't had more injuries 😂 no team has lost more days through injury and players out than Newcastle.. and that's not including tonali 😂
The difference that reeve can’t seem to understand is when Chelsea have an injury they still have a 40-50m player to cover When Newcastle have an injury they have a championship level player to cover
@@WizzyBoyI think there is a point to be made. Newcastle has regressed slightly from last season and Eddie Howe was there for both seasons while pochettino is in his first year so we don’t know how Chelsea will look next season. If you look at a team like Barca Xavi started off really well and now he’s already gone after this season. It’s just too much to say about Howe and too little to say about Poch
The 1 billion quid argument is such a surface level argument. Chelsea basically replaced their whole team, only 3 players from their Champions league winning team in 2021 are still there. Thiago Silva, Reece James, and Ben Chilwell. Thiago is leaving at the end of this season, Reece is always injured, and Chilwell is always injured too. Investing a Billion to replace all your players is not ridiculous when you understand how many players they had to replace. Use a better argument.
When a team can't field their best players on the pitch then sometimes it can make them drop their form and other clubs who spend a lot can have a really good squad depth and can still perform well
Probably because Newcastle tried too hard to win all three points to get into the knockouts had the psg result ended correctly the mentality of that game would have been totally different everyone that knows football understands thay
Comparing Howe to last season is absolutely clueless no European football last season or expectations it’s ludicrous to think a team should improve year on year without massive investment
Should be, but this squad is for the future, that's the whole point of Chelsea right now, why do people accept Chelsea to be top of the league by spending so much money, it's how you spend it. Money doesn't always buy success.
@@usm4n992 because poch is there manager, if howe can take a team of championship players to the champions league then poch should be able to take a team full of 80m+ player to at least the top half of the table🤷🏼♂️
@@jordanb966 none of these players are worth their price let's be honest, did you even read my first comment? It's how you spend the money and who you spend it on, it's such a lazy argument, "bUt TheY BouGhT iT AlL"
You can’t say Poch has been better when chelsea football club , one of biggest in uk is sat that far down the table. When overachieving newcastle are still above em whike having that many injuries. With the ppl coming in no where near the players chelsea have as back up, like James injured, chels bring in gusto, great player. Botman gets injured, newcastle get laccels.. cmon
I love how Lewis’ arguments include: - Still in FA Cup - injured GK - Lots of injuries All of which have also happened to Chelsea. I would probably agree Howe over Potch but use arguments that doesn’t also apply to the other
Yeah I'm a Chelsea fan and I agree Howe over Poch but it's ridiculous for Lewis to think it's completely bollocks to not even have the conversation because there definitely is one
@@caelumjackson1561Poch does have a better squad. More spread out schedule. Currently below Newcastle. Don’t really know how anyone can argue Poch has been better.
I don’t understand how anyone can say poccetino has had a better season, Chelsea have a billion pound squad, with multiple players they bought being able to replace the injured players, which Newcastle simply don’t have
i’m more with lewis on this one. how can you say poch has been better then howe. the points reeve make just contradict himself. he said newcastle overachieved last year but said howe is doijg worst then expectations. then said chelsea will improve and well is it hard? steve bruce would have improved that team
As a Liverpool fan (so don’t know much about chelsea) I know that they’ve had James, Sanchez, Chilwell, Lavia, Cucurella, Nkunku and fofana out with several month long injuries. Badiashile has just got an injury that’ll keep him out for a few weeks. Broja spent a large portion of the start of the season injured before being loaned out. Jackson missed a few weeks at afcon. And I’m probably still missing players. But loads of teams have had injuries and absences that have impacted them. Liverpool have had players like salah, alisson, van dijk, Trent, Robertson, jota, tsimikas, matip, endo etc all out and we’re still top, we’ve had thiago injured for 10 bloody months just to come back and get injured again. United have dropped loads because of their injuries. It’s not just Newcastle. And even with players their team is still playing shit
The issue with any argument Lewis ever makes is that rather than making real points based on football, he just tried to trip people up and point score. Boring
"Everyone gets injuries" 😂 They've been missing about 6 key players for about 2-3 months now, you can disagree on the take but c'mon... No one's had injuries or missing key players as much as Newcastle has.
@pogbamoney9415 we could compare all the injuries we want, but the discrepancy between newcastle and a lot of teams in the EPL is not even close to the same. Which my problem is Theo acted like Newcastle hasn't had their best players go down (and Tonali's suspension) and not have mediocre back ups for months is crazy.
@@Mattriarc I agree with you. I think injuries definitely factory into things. But I also think it's just silly that some people only argue that injuries matter when it happens to their team. Like boohoo, injuries are part of the game, every team deals with them some worse than Newcastle and some not as bad. But it's a weak argument to base the capitulation of the entire season on some injuries, something every team experiences. I also think the Tonali argument is silly, that's down to the clubs recruiment. For me it was weird he for went so cheap (cheaper than Lavia), and now it all makes more sense. I'm sure all the clubs interested in Tonali knew about his gambling problems, but Newcastle were just the ones willing to take the risk and unfortunately for them it didn't work out.
@@jacob4690 I'd say so: Reece James (captain) - 19 starts in the last two season. Chilwell (vice captain) - 22 starts in last two season Fofana (their best centerback) - 14 starts in last two seasons. Lavia - 0 starts this season Nkunku - 2 starts this season Carney Chukwuemeka (nailed on starter until his injury) - 2 starts this season Robert Sanchez (starting GK) - out for past two months Shall I continue?
Theo kept listing wrong facts this episode my god. Saying arsenal had the biggest away win this season, Alexis Sanchez winning a premier league and gerrard winning two champions leagues???? Comes to show he’s ball knowledge is so dead…
5 points less than this time last season out of both cups, Arteta. The big difference here is a lot of Chelsea fans want Poch to leave, Newcastle fans are still behind Howe
Lewis sounds like a broken record with the silly argument about a billion spent, when his beloved oil club's net spend (player sales minus player purchases) is only about 200m less than Chelsea's across the last three season. And constantly complaining about injuries when their injury crisis was not even half as bad as Chelsea's 2 season-long injury apocalypse. It just shows he only watches Newcastle and possesses zero ability to think critically.
what players can newcastle sell that’s worth any money mate? howe came in to a championship squad that needed serious improvement to stay in the league, maximin was his only sellable asset. so the net spend argument is just silly
@@ikeeastlake3316 Net spend definitely matters, especially when Newcastle fans try to throw Chelsea's spending habits in their face, when Newcastle have also been spending hundreds of millions without raising any funds. Chelsea have sold hundreds of millions in assets and also bought hundreds of millions in assets. Newcastle have sold maybe 15 quid worth of players and spent 400M in the last three seasons. It's really not hard to understand but let me put it like this: if you make money, you can spend money. 'nEt SpEnD aRgUmEmT iS sIlLy' might be one of the silliest things I've ever heard, we'll see if FFP agrees with you.
Pope is a huge part of our defence and our midfield is decimated. its not hard to see why we're conceding more goals. weve already hammered Chelsea once this season. Howe has done unreal given the long term injuries to key players.
The question is whose had a better season this season and reev keeps bringing up last season which is irrelevant to the question whose had a better season THIS season. I’m not on either side equally bad seasons but irritated me using both sides of the argument when only one argument was made.
I don't wanna side with Lewis but they're arguing the wrong point. They're saying that newcastle have gotten worse this season compared to last. Isn't what they're arguing whether Poch or Howe have had a better season, which should be based on players, squad depth, the actual tactics of the manager, the amount of competitions they are in etc.
Lewis using the „we were in the group of death“ Argument while Dortmund finished top of the Same group spending way lesser then Newcastle, fourth in the so called „Farmers league“ and starting with a striker which played for the 12th placed Bundesliga Club last season ahahahahjaah
Comparing a club that was battling relegation year after year to a team that consistently plays in the UCL and make the knockouts consistently... Joselu played for Newcastle and couldn't hit a barn door he starts for Madrid now so that argument is washed up
Pretty hard to adapt to a new style of play without your players. Lewis knows his club like most Newcastle fans. Chelsea for having bought a new team, spent a hefty amount are massively underperforming considering they have broken financial fair play rules also. Howe has done and alright job considering and got the best out of some players. Poch has done little to nothing and relied on Sterling to bail him out who had a short spell.
I’m not even a Chelsea fan but saying they inherited a billion pound club is disingenuous. Sure on paper maybe but don’t use that when Chelsea’s clearly overpaid and they would willingly admit that.
Last year this all were laughing when Lewis was on about Newcastle being in cup final but now it’s Chelsea they think it’s worth something, Howe massively overachieved last year, LOOK at that team it’s not good enough too be top 6
The problem with this argument is that managers need 2-3 seasons to gel the squad and get a team together that plays their style. Take Arteta for example he took that Arsenal squad to second but he had 2 seasons before that having to iron out issues and find the key to their style of play, this should be something revisited in 2 seasons if both managers are still there and look at the beginning of the journey and where they end up. Some context has to come into like finance and squad depth but Newcastle have the finance as well they just haven’t thrown it around as much as Chelsea have recently
@@kurthallimond8916 they literally do have the financial resources but are being clever and blowing loads of money and getting caught up in a FFP issue like other clubs have, they could go and throw £200 million around in the summer if they wanted but it would bite them straight away instead they have to play the long game purchasing players over a few years to create a financial pool in which expands the amount they can spend each window with FFP capping them
@@aopgaming4728 Newcastle don't have the finances the owners do and that isn't a reflection of how much money a club has we're touted as the richest club in the world when we're 8th in England alone
Suggesting Eddie Howe is under pressure is complete delusion. Did anyone actually think he would improve on a champions league spot? The team were always going to go backwards this year. And even with the injury setbacks they’re still sitting in a decent position. Yes they’ve shipped goals, they’ve scored a lot too, the team isn’t as balanced as it was, personally I think Pope has been their biggest loss and that had effected the defenders too. I could see it on the Notts Forest game that the defence and goalkeeper were not on the same page at all. Eddie Howe is the man for the job long term 100%.
Lewis is pitchsides version of AFTV's Ty, don't rattle him otherwise he'll go on and on and on and on and on and on
He’s correct on this clip though
Such Ty energy 💀
Nooo don’t stoop that low 😂 Ty deserves to be in a mental asylum, Lewis is just a Newcastle fan
Nah that’s outrageous no man deserves a Ty comparison 😂😂
Tom is worse 💀
Tom just sitting back and enjoying the mayhem!
He didn't shut up for longer than 10 seconds
@@unclebensrice4702 bloody hell, why you watching this 6 months on 😂
Lewis Boden has done it again that man truly is delusional
He just isnt wrong though... for once
@@jamesgrannum3736as much as I agree with him, he got DESTROYED in every argument in this vid
Hardly, reev and Theo hate Newcastle and just shout at Lewis which then tom laughs and it makes Lewis look stupid while he’s probably the correct one in this conversation
it is also a 3 v1. But he doesnt help himself when he doesnt admit when he's wrong@@Mohamed.409
@@keirpage8233 that's usually how it goes, because they got the number advantage it's always the odd man out that gets slated.
The injuries excuse is getting tired now, as if chelsea, man u, etc have'nt had multiple 1st team players out
Arsenal have had their main striker out.
City have had there 2 best players out.
Chelsea have had 4 out of there back 5 out.
Liverpool had to play there 3 choice RB out of position at lb.
Tottenham have had to play two fullbacks at cb.
I don't like Newcastle but their overall squad isn't even close to the quality of the big boys they majorly over performed last season and yeah they have some quality but some of their players are still championship level so injuries are bound to affect them more
City lost haaland kdb doku stones grealish
Utd lost varane lisandro amrabat mount eriksen martial
Chelsea lost james chilwell sanchez lavia ....
Tot lost maddison romero(red) van de ven bissouma(red) sarr ben10 ...
Not just prem(barca real napoli .....)
hardly getting tired it is a valid point when people bring up our performance this season, we have had to play a lot less quality then other teams around us. Melon
I agree the injury excuse is getting on now but I do still think howe has done a better job than pochettino
I know Specs struggles to put an argument together but I think I would actually agree with him. I think the expectation for Chelsea was that they would recover from last season and be a top team again this season. That hasn’t happened. Don’t think anyone (apart from Lewis) expected Newcastle to stay top 4 and have now been bought down to their actual standard. From a Wolves fan btw
I feel like a lot of the context he applied for Newcastle, you can literally apply for Chelsea. He’s on about Newcastles injuries but there literally hasn’t been a more injury ridden squad than Chelsea this season. Chelsea’s entire back line and most of their good forwards have been injured at many points of the season, so much so that a lot of players have been playing out of position at times. Chelsea have not performed well this season at all and they were expected to be there or there abouts in regards to top 4. But with an injury ridden squad it can’t be easy and with a complete set of new players, as well as being in the final of a cup competition. I think Poch has been better the Howe this season.
To any logical person that wouldn't be the expectation for chelsea. Lewis's arguement of "chelsea spent a billion so the expectation is them too be good" is riduculous, it's impossible to stay at the top level at the prem after completely resetting your team and having too work with 30 new players with no chemistry, this hasn't been seen in football but anyone who follows any other sports knows teams like this don't work and definetly not immediately regardless of how good the players are. Combining that with how poor chelsea was last season after tuchel was sacked it'd probably be expected that chelsea should be doing worse then they currently are hence imo potchettino and chelsea are exceeding expectations this season.
@@BikYsl I wouldn’t go as far to say chelsea are exceeding expectations however chelsea are not doing as bad as a lot of casual people are making them out to be doing. Chelsea with the squad they have are underperforming. Yes it’s a completely new squad but with the talent in said squad and with the way they’ve performed in some games, chelsea should be a lot better. But they are definitely not hopeless and there are serious signs of growth.
That was not the expectation. Objectively you’re wrong. If YOU expected Chelsea to be top again that’s fine, it’s quite clearly a project. You can’t just throw kids together and expect a challenge vs a long settled City & co. I’m surprised I have to explain this to you.
As a chelsea fan, we never expected to finish top 4. This is a new era with a new project and I, and every other chelsea fan I know, didn't have us finishing top 4. I thought 7th tbh. I think the fact that most prem fans have been slating Chelsea has taken away from the fact that we got to a cup final in the worst period over the past20-30 years. I don't think we'll win it but the fact that we got there is enough for most of us
If we're talking about the job according to the squads, Poch has done much worse. Half of Newcastle's squad were part of the team that were 20th. Any club that would have the squad Chelsea have would be massively underperforming in comparison.
Fair point, but using your logic, weren't half of the Chelsea squad 10 years old during that time?
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But this is about this season! Expectations adjust season by season. Chelsea’s expectations lowered and Newcastle’s have been raised.
@@hammerbags2859he’s saying that they have the same team pretty much when Howe took over when they were 20th and Chelsea have spent a billion and still shite
How is poch at fault for that squad when he just got there. The squad doesn’t work together. It happens
This is one of the only arguments I can kind of understand Lewis
Even if you understand him he got bodied in every argument
Huh how😂
Newcastle is 2 points ahead of them. Hes acting like they are at the bottom of the standings
@@ozgecko4050Chelsea spend 1b and yet we are still ahead of them🤷🏼♂️
@@jordanb966spending a billion doesn’t solve any problems unless you buy Mbappé haaland Vini…
Lewis is the Ty of Newcastle
In what world has Poch had a better season than Howe. Thats unbelievable
Cup final.
@@pumpinickleifynobody cares about the efl cup and they'll lose
@@x83937 tell me you’re a Newcastle fan without telling me you’re a Newcastle fan.
youd love to win it tho@@x83937
@@pumpinickleifya cup final? You must be joking unless he wins it that means nothing
As mad as some of lewis' shouts are, hes completely correct and the rest are chatting bollocks. Anyone calling for howe's head is delusional, newcastle fan or otherwise.
No one was calling for howe’s head but lewis has no argument besides “1 billion pounds” as if it’s 1 billion of luxury players. Realistically it’s 1 billion over 2 years to replace the core team of both keepers going, rudiger, christenson, azpi, emerson, alonso, kovacic, jorghino, kante, mount, pulusic, ziyech, abraham, giroud, havertz, werner and more. You have to spend that much to replace a whole team and bench
Howe is more at fault for newcastles predicament than poch is for chelseas
@@joepengelly8403 When you spend 1 billion into any business, you’d expect a great return. So far chelsea have not improved on last season. Compared to newcastle where they have not spent anywhere near that amount. of money yet maintained near that level. Pretty simple.
@@ClipsCentraIs that’s not about the coach
no ones calling for his head? they're just ranking their seasons
Newcastle literally don't have the worst defence on the league BTW
It is one of tho, out of the top teams sorry
Statistically over the last 10 games they literally are the worst defence in the league
@TheUndismayed that isn't the literal definition of worst defence this season though is it?
Lewis actually made good points, I hate Newcastle but they've been riddled with injuries and half their squad is basically championship level, they lost their star signing all season and had UCL football and the group of death. All of that combined is bound to make them struggle. On the flip side Poch came into a team worth about 4x as much and has done abysmal the fact Newcastle have been below par and are still above Chelsea just shows how shit Poch has been.
Chelsea have had more injures and had them for longer.
And Chelsea’s team is mostly u23 players so they’re gonna be inconsistent. But still got to a cup final knocking out Newcastle in the process.
@lewiss7711 Chelsea haven't had more injuries 😂 no team has lost more days through injury and players out than Newcastle.. and that's not including tonali 😂
@@Djcnufc that’s complete bollocks
Is this Lewis’s burner account 😂😂
"the mandatory run of finishing out group games and exiting the competition" lmaoo
The difference that reeve can’t seem to understand is when Chelsea have an injury they still have a 40-50m player to cover
When Newcastle have an injury they have a championship level player to cover
Maybe if they spent that 70m they spent on tonali on squad depth they wouldn’t have that problem
Chelsea just have 40-50m championship level players to cover. It’s not different at all they just cost more
Those are not 40-50 mil players, I don’t care what Chelsea paid for them
@@matija9540they're players poch wanted so there you go
@@idkimkindadumb7729I will say you can’t predict something like Tonali happening I do think they should have spent more smart though
I watch this as a newcastle fan just before I play football to get myself pumped up and angry I think
Must be hard having Lewis talking your case 😂
Yes it Is!!
Actually agree with the speccy Geordie
You shouldn’t though.
@@WizzyBoy why
@@WizzyBoyhe is right tho
@@WizzyBoyI think there is a point to be made. Newcastle has regressed slightly from last season and Eddie Howe was there for both seasons while pochettino is in his first year so we don’t know how Chelsea will look next season. If you look at a team like Barca Xavi started off really well and now he’s already gone after this season. It’s just too much to say about Howe and too little to say about Poch
Watch this again after they lost the final to an under 21’s squad.
‘Most people at the start of the season would have had Newcastle above Chelsea.’
They are….
Not what they meant
Funny watching this now after Chelsea finish above Newcastle and have reached a cup final. Lewis shouldn’t be allowed to speak.
The 1 billion quid argument is such a surface level argument. Chelsea basically replaced their whole team, only 3 players from their Champions league winning team in 2021 are still there. Thiago Silva, Reece James, and Ben Chilwell. Thiago is leaving at the end of this season, Reece is always injured, and Chilwell is always injured too. Investing a Billion to replace all your players is not ridiculous when you understand how many players they had to replace. Use a better argument.
Congratulations Chelsea were able to fully revamp the squad spending 600m+ last year and 450m+ this year while Newcastle are doing it player by player
How the fuck does anyone think Theo and Reev are right? Poch has had an absolutely abysmal season with Chelsea.
Because so has howe, both doing poor but atleast poch has the excuse of trying to save a sinking ship
@@harrisonbaker199Howe has the excuse of having half a squad of injuries
@@harrisonbaker199lol sinking ship? Got a billion pound squad
@jacob4690 if you buy a rolex for £2000 and get it home to find its fake. Its not worth £2000
@probablynot879 so does poch, his 2 best players James and nkunku, goalkeeper injuries Nd constant squad rotation for other injiries
When a team can't field their best players on the pitch then sometimes it can make them drop their form and other clubs who spend a lot can have a really good squad depth and can still perform well
Lewis actually said Newcastle would make the semi final after the group draw, there’s voice message in podcast that proddy was behind the mic
That's called supporting your team if you don't start every year off by saying we'll win the quadruple this year are you even a fan
For the first time ever I completely agree with Lewis
Man said finishing 7th and bottom of CL group is a “fantastic season” 😂
Love a 20min pitchside vid
Poch over Howe is crazy 😭
Howe is it crazy ?
Nah
Anyone not putting poch 3rd is actually crazy, by far the worst season
Why isn’t anyone talking about Theo putting Poch FIRST?😭
He's gotten away with it coz of Lewis losing his head
@@someoneyoudontknow6529 trust me lol
Didn’t even know he put him first 😂
And tbf why ain’t anyone mentioning Lewis saying Jacob Murphy’s their best winger 😂😂😂
Sat 14 points outside the top 4 if he doesn't win the cup by the end of the season Jose mourinho will probably come back
Why does Lewis keep talking about the psg game when they went out at Home to AC Milan after being 1 nil up they lost 2-1 and went out
Probably because Newcastle tried too hard to win all three points to get into the knockouts had the psg result ended correctly the mentality of that game would have been totally different everyone that knows football understands thay
Comparing Howe to last season is absolutely clueless no European football last season or expectations it’s ludicrous to think a team should improve year on year without massive investment
Theo said Newcastle conceded 4 against Luton as a point. Didn’t arsenal concede 3 against them?😂
Sky sports have reported Newcastle having the most days lost via injuries in premier league history. Delusional big 6 fans.
Chelsea haven’t had injuries as well right? 😂 using injuries as an excuse AGAINST Chelsea is comical.
Theo does my fucking head in , Chelsea should be miles above Newcastle in the league with that team of million dollar players
Should be, but this squad is for the future, that's the whole point of Chelsea right now, why do people accept Chelsea to be top of the league by spending so much money, it's how you spend it. Money doesn't always buy success.
@@usm4n992”money doesn’t always buy success” so Man City have won how much from just good luck then?
@@jordanb966 how come Chelsea aren't top of the league.
@@usm4n992 because poch is there manager, if howe can take a team of championship players to the champions league then poch should be able to take a team full of 80m+ player to at least the top half of the table🤷🏼♂️
@@jordanb966 none of these players are worth their price let's be honest, did you even read my first comment? It's how you spend the money and who you spend it on, it's such a lazy argument, "bUt TheY BouGhT iT AlL"
You can’t say Poch has been better when chelsea football club , one of biggest in uk is sat that far down the table. When overachieving newcastle are still above em whike having that many injuries. With the ppl coming in no where near the players chelsea have as back up, like James injured, chels bring in gusto, great player. Botman gets injured, newcastle get laccels.. cmon
over achieving?? they are under achieving
@@aryan-yi7ncNewcastle aren't under achieving they are exactly where they should be? Chelsea spent 300m more than us 😂
I love how Lewis’ arguments include:
- Still in FA Cup
- injured GK
- Lots of injuries
All of which have also happened to Chelsea. I would probably agree Howe over Potch but use arguments that doesn’t also apply to the other
Yeah I'm a Chelsea fan and I agree Howe over Poch but it's ridiculous for Lewis to think it's completely bollocks to not even have the conversation because there definitely is one
@@caelumjackson1561Poch does have a better squad.
More spread out schedule.
Currently below Newcastle.
Don’t really know how anyone can argue Poch has been better.
This is an unreal watch now that the season is over.
Can Theo explain how Newcastle have the worst defence in the league?
Funny how he always talks about arsenal being bottle jobs but Newcastle having injuries.
Reev: Lewis, here's an entirely hypothetical question
Lewis: That's an unfair question, it's entirely hypothetical
it makes me crease that lewis had to change the camera every time he was vexed ahahah
Please upload more regularly guys 😂😂😂
Everything Lewis said Potch too has had those issues and he’s improved the team massively
This is a horrendous listen
Goggles is rattled 😂
Never thought a podcast clip would force me to leave my phone at home and go on a walk
I don’t understand how anyone can say poccetino has had a better season, Chelsea have a billion pound squad, with multiple players they bought being able to replace the injured players, which Newcastle simply don’t have
he’s improved them, Howe hasn’t improved Newcastle.
Using inflated number to push an argument makes it arbitrary
@@WizzyBoyhe has poch had a better season lol
Funny reading this now chelsea finished above Newcastle and went to Wembley twice 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't believe some people are calling Lewis Ty of Newcastle. He is actually talking a lot of sense. And he is not blaming rain. Period!
Moyes last when he finished lowest out of the 3 teams last year and is highest out of the 3 teams this season is genuinely shocking
We need this debate at the end of the season
Pitch Side is class to watch for entertainment, but when it comes to football chat its utter delusion.
Where is ‘the worst defence in the league’ coming from. They aren’t even close to the worst defence in the league
i’m more with lewis on this one. how can you say poch has been better then howe. the points reeve make just contradict himself. he said newcastle overachieved last year but said howe is doijg worst then expectations. then said chelsea will improve and well is it hard? steve bruce would have improved that team
Please Pitchside never ever end
The sudden self awareness from lewis 😂😂 1:19. Epic
They wind that newcastle fan up something rotten. Newcastle fan is 100 percent correct in everything he said.
As a Liverpool fan (so don’t know much about chelsea) I know that they’ve had James, Sanchez, Chilwell, Lavia, Cucurella, Nkunku and fofana out with several month long injuries. Badiashile has just got an injury that’ll keep him out for a few weeks. Broja spent a large portion of the start of the season injured before being loaned out. Jackson missed a few weeks at afcon. And I’m probably still missing players. But loads of teams have had injuries and absences that have impacted them. Liverpool have had players like salah, alisson, van dijk, Trent, Robertson, jota, tsimikas, matip, endo etc all out and we’re still top, we’ve had thiago injured for 10 bloody months just to come back and get injured again. United have dropped loads because of their injuries. It’s not just Newcastle. And even with players their team is still playing shit
‘They’ve signed a billion pounds worth of players’ on repeat 20 times per minute is so lazy from Lewis
Speccy geordie actually makes some fair points but because he’s previously been so biased and delusional it goes against him. Boy who cried wolf.
The issue with any argument Lewis ever makes is that rather than making real points based on football, he just tried to trip people up and point score. Boring
Chelsea have had worse injuries than Newcastle
No they haven't
Unless you can define the objective 'expectations' of where each club should be, basing this debate on 'expectations' is daft
He's so defensive. Unlike Newcastle 😏
at this point its just tiring bcs lewis overrates newcastle so much that it makes the rest of them underrate newcastle
Why wasn’t Eddie Howe the best manager last season if it’s based on how many positions they jumped from the year before.
"Everyone gets injuries" 😂 They've been missing about 6 key players for about 2-3 months now, you can disagree on the take but c'mon... No one's had injuries or missing key players as much as Newcastle has.
Chelsea have been without many of their key players for 2 years straight now. But yeah your 2 month injury woes are worse 😂
@pogbamoney9415 we could compare all the injuries we want, but the discrepancy between newcastle and a lot of teams in the EPL is not even close to the same. Which my problem is Theo acted like Newcastle hasn't had their best players go down (and Tonali's suspension) and not have mediocre back ups for months is crazy.
@@pogbamoney9415what key players are they then?
@@Mattriarc I agree with you. I think injuries definitely factory into things. But I also think it's just silly that some people only argue that injuries matter when it happens to their team. Like boohoo, injuries are part of the game, every team deals with them some worse than Newcastle and some not as bad. But it's a weak argument to base the capitulation of the entire season on some injuries, something every team experiences. I also think the Tonali argument is silly, that's down to the clubs recruiment. For me it was weird he for went so cheap (cheaper than Lavia), and now it all makes more sense. I'm sure all the clubs interested in Tonali knew about his gambling problems, but Newcastle were just the ones willing to take the risk and unfortunately for them it didn't work out.
@@jacob4690 I'd say so:
Reece James (captain) - 19 starts in the last two season.
Chilwell (vice captain) - 22 starts in last two season
Fofana (their best centerback) - 14 starts in last two seasons.
Lavia - 0 starts this season
Nkunku - 2 starts this season
Carney Chukwuemeka (nailed on starter until his injury) - 2 starts this season
Robert Sanchez (starting GK) - out for past two months
Shall I continue?
Theo kept listing wrong facts this episode my god. Saying arsenal had the biggest away win this season, Alexis Sanchez winning a premier league and gerrard winning two champions leagues????
Comes to show he’s ball knowledge is so dead…
How is Theo gonna say that Poch has had to deal with injuries and then say “cry me a river everyone has injuries”
5 points less than this time last season out of both cups, Arteta. The big difference here is a lot of Chelsea fans want Poch to leave, Newcastle fans are still behind Howe
Theo not getting enough stick for that shout at the end
Newcastle are 6 points worse off then they where last season, with a massive injury crisis. But are the worst out of the three
Im a united fan i specifically remember lewis speweing his hypothetical shit about then beating us last season in the final
Lewis sounds like a broken record with the silly argument about a billion spent, when his beloved oil club's net spend (player sales minus player purchases) is only about 200m less than Chelsea's across the last three season. And constantly complaining about injuries when their injury crisis was not even half as bad as Chelsea's 2 season-long injury apocalypse. It just shows he only watches Newcastle and possesses zero ability to think critically.
what players can newcastle sell that’s worth any money mate? howe came in to a championship squad that needed serious improvement to stay in the league, maximin was his only sellable asset. so the net spend argument is just silly
@@ikeeastlake3316 Net spend definitely matters, especially when Newcastle fans try to throw Chelsea's spending habits in their face, when Newcastle have also been spending hundreds of millions without raising any funds. Chelsea have sold hundreds of millions in assets and also bought hundreds of millions in assets. Newcastle have sold maybe 15 quid worth of players and spent 400M in the last three seasons. It's really not hard to understand but let me put it like this: if you make money, you can spend money. 'nEt SpEnD aRgUmEmT iS sIlLy' might be one of the silliest things I've ever heard, we'll see if FFP agrees with you.
Lewis Bowden in the mud
I agree with Lewis, poch is meant to be an elite manager and he's 10th and newcastle have had to play games with hardly any experienced subs
can any newcastle fans tell me if they like lewis at all? is he a good mouth for the newcastle fans or what? genuine question
love him and he's right most of the time, just doesn't always make the points he needs to as well as being a bit hypocritical
no. I don’t like him. some of his points are true but he’s too biased.
Touch and go he doesn't really help himself half the time although I do agree poch is more at risk than Howe he's arguing about it the wrong way
This is absolute comic brilliance. There is no way of having a conversation with Lewis about anyone being better than his beloved Newcastle! 😂
All these Ls from Lewis whilst Theo stays quiet just to come out with the biggest L at the end. Love it. 😂😂😂
Pope is a huge part of our defence and our midfield is decimated. its not hard to see why we're conceding more goals. weve already hammered Chelsea once this season. Howe has done unreal given the long term injuries to key players.
The question is whose had a better season this season and reev keeps bringing up last season which is irrelevant to the question whose had a better season THIS season. I’m not on either side equally bad seasons but irritated me using both sides of the argument when only one argument was made.
I don't wanna side with Lewis but they're arguing the wrong point. They're saying that newcastle have gotten worse this season compared to last. Isn't what they're arguing whether Poch or Howe have had a better season, which should be based on players, squad depth, the actual tactics of the manager, the amount of competitions they are in etc.
This is bullying at this point
I want someone to love me the way Lewis loves Newcastle and Tom loves his pal’s todger. Happy Valentine’s Day ❤️
Newcastle fans have spent the past year and a half giving it the biggun and now they expect everyone to feel bad for them. embarrassing
What's embarrassing is other fan bases even thinking Howes jobs more under threat than pochs
Mate at some points we have had no strikers and no fullbacks
the day this podcast unanimously agree on something is the day hell freezes over my god
Always find it weird that Lewis is the one panning the camera to him lol
Lewis using the „we were in the group of death“ Argument while Dortmund finished top of the Same group spending way lesser then Newcastle, fourth in the so called „Farmers league“ and starting with a striker which played for the 12th placed Bundesliga Club last season ahahahahjaah
Comparing a club that was battling relegation year after year to a team that consistently plays in the UCL and make the knockouts consistently... Joselu played for Newcastle and couldn't hit a barn door he starts for Madrid now so that argument is washed up
Watching Lewis talk about injuries as a villain fan on our last legs in terms of centre backs is mental
Newcastle at one point had one fit CB Kraft was playing cb
Pretty hard to adapt to a new style of play without your players. Lewis knows his club like most Newcastle fans.
Chelsea for having bought a new team, spent a hefty amount are massively underperforming considering they have broken financial fair play rules also.
Howe has done and alright job considering and got the best out of some players. Poch has done little to nothing and relied on Sterling to bail him out who had a short spell.
Moyes under pressure 😂
Lewis is definitely a wooly hat and some newcastle headphones away from being TY
I’m not even a Chelsea fan but saying they inherited a billion pound club is disingenuous. Sure on paper maybe but don’t use that when Chelsea’s clearly overpaid and they would willingly admit that.
"we've had injuries"
Everyone mentioned Chelsea's injuries.
"That doesn't matter"
The fuck is this logic.
“Conceded four against Luton” when Arsenal conceded three is a wild argument 😂
Last year this all were laughing when Lewis was on about Newcastle being in cup final but now it’s Chelsea they think it’s worth something, Howe massively overachieved last year, LOOK at that team it’s not good enough too be top 6
Newcastle's injuries are the exact same as Chelsea, Spurs and United haha
Except for the fact our reserves are championship level players left over by Ashley era and Chelsea’s, spurs and utd’s are a whole level above
United have started games with their whole backline out and 3 academy players in Kambwala, Mainoo and Garnacho.@@martinnikodinoski6474
The problem with this argument is that managers need 2-3 seasons to gel the squad and get a team together that plays their style. Take Arteta for example he took that Arsenal squad to second but he had 2 seasons before that having to iron out issues and find the key to their style of play, this should be something revisited in 2 seasons if both managers are still there and look at the beginning of the journey and where they end up. Some context has to come into like finance and squad depth but Newcastle have the finance as well they just haven’t thrown it around as much as Chelsea have recently
Newcastle doesn't have the finances they've struggled all season poch spent more this season than Howe has at Newcastle his whole career
@@kurthallimond8916 they literally do have the financial resources but are being clever and blowing loads of money and getting caught up in a FFP issue like other clubs have, they could go and throw £200 million around in the summer if they wanted but it would bite them straight away instead they have to play the long game purchasing players over a few years to create a financial pool in which expands the amount they can spend each window with FFP capping them
@@aopgaming4728 Newcastle don't have the finances the owners do and that isn't a reflection of how much money a club has we're touted as the richest club in the world when we're 8th in England alone
Suggesting Eddie Howe is under pressure is complete delusion. Did anyone actually think he would improve on a champions league spot? The team were always going to go backwards this year. And even with the injury setbacks they’re still sitting in a decent position. Yes they’ve shipped goals, they’ve scored a lot too, the team isn’t as balanced as it was, personally I think Pope has been their biggest loss and that had effected the defenders too. I could see it on the Notts Forest game that the defence and goalkeeper were not on the same page at all.
Eddie Howe is the man for the job long term 100%.