honestly i was hesitant to watch as im very unlikely to ever play jhin (i dislike his playstyle im more into shorter range adcs like nilah twitch trist that i learned how to play from you ) but after watching this i can say without a doubt this is ur best educational video ever the gameplay is perfection even in silver lobbies u need to watch it yourself to see how good it is ,,,, ps : that one twitch supp u got was smurfing (he dropped 200 kills in 10 games ) no wonder the overall score went 45-5 because its a bunch of random idiots vs 2 super op smurfs xD
Hey Vapora! Love the video so far but I have a mechanics question. I noticed when you are taking jungle camps later in the game you almost never use your E to add to your damage, even if you’ll have to do an extra reload to finish the camp. Is there ever a good time to use your E on Jungle camps, or just better generally to do the extra reload?
@@VaporaDarkYeah, watching further, I can see you do actually use it fairly often. I’m very new to Jhin so I just wasn’t sure if using E is actually faster or there’s some mechanic I don’t know. Thanks for your help!
Been a long time since i have played the game but always enjoyed jhin in past seasons. It feels like watching this the aa damage output seems low compared to other carries. Is this a build thing or is this just how adc role is currently? Been a few seasons since i have played
Why do most of these to diamond series only reach up to silver? I'm a jhin main with 65% wr in plat 4 rn. Wish there were more games. The only adcs I see you've reached is with kaisa and jinx? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Off the top of my head I've completed Kai'Sa, Jinx, Caitlyn, Aphelios, Ashe, with the last of those being completed maybe ~4 months ago (Aphelios and Ashe were around the same time). Since then I've switched to an approach where I work on every series at once (for more champion variety) so there are less completions being made currently, but eventually there will be a large wave of completions within a short period. At the moment I just make a video on whichever account is lowest ranked in order to make sure they're all climbing at the same pace and not be biased towards/against any particular champion. Here's the list at the moment: i.imgur.com/ku4xhuO.png There's suddenly large gaps in rank only because the new season reset is so favourable while in the previous splits all my accounts had high MMR but low rank, so the ones I've done placements on this season are way higher than the ones I haven't gotten round to yet. Previously every account was silver 3-gold 4, which was misleading because the highest of those accounts were already in plat/Emerald MMR. Even in this video in "Silver 2" we faced a lot of plat players, though we still had mostly gold MMR. You should expect to see Jhin within my next few uploads and it's likely the account will end up in plat by the end of the video. Within the next few months if I keep up a good pace every account will be in Diamond MMR, but we likely won't see full completion of every account until Split 2 because of how time intensive this project is.
I've been struggling with jhin's itemization the past few days. I don't know when to go gale, when to go yomuus and when to go IE. They also all have similar winrates Could you explain how you pick which build to go as jhin?
If you want to keep it simple, just use the Galeforce build every time, it's never bad. Galeforce vs Youmuu's comes down to stronger early damage but poor damage lategame onto tanks with Youmuu's, while Galeforce build is worse early but scales better (and gives more mobility later on as well). Galeforce vs IE comes down to IE scaling better than Galeforce, but being the worse item overall. But it's an option if you want to be the strongest Jhin you can possibly be in the late-game.
Hey vapora, one of my friends is a Yuumi OTP because he doesnt like the game that much and doesnt wanna try and i'm a mid main trying to learn adc so that he can play more but i'm having a lot of trouble with it cause with Yuumi I always feel like i'm playing a 1v2. do you have any tips/champs to recommend playing? I like kai'sa but she has a horrible winrate with Yuumi if I remember correctly
With Yuumi it's important to remember that you are positioning for 2 people. This has upsides and downsides. Upside is that you and Yuumi are *always* in sync, so if the enemy support is mispositioned then you're basically 2v1 against the enemy ADC. Downside is that if you are mispositioned, then Yuumi is mispositioned, making mispositioning all the more punishing. Yuumi can't do much to save you from being all-in'd as well, so the bar for being mispositioned against engage supports is also much lower than usual, forcing you to have to play extra carefully. Consider rushing tier 2 boots as soon as possible, as it aids immensely with repositioning and keeping you safe, which is doubly important with Yuumi because of her limited early protection, and the fact that keeping yourself safe keeps her safe too. Yuumi is also decent at winning wars of attrition. Even though they removed the heal from her E, she still gets quite a lot of healing from landing her Q, and her E blocks a lot of damage while being very easy to use and time properly (since she doesn't have to aim anything unlike other enchanters). The best matchups for her are purely trading-focused matchups, you shouldn't be struggling too much in these, especially if you abuse the fact that you can play safe when the enemy bot lane is positioned together, but punish the ADC when their support is mispositioned and not able to properly aid them in trades. For those engage-focused matchups, you need to definitely just rush T2 boots and play save to avoid engages at all costs. Remember that at the end of the day, Yuumi is a hyperscaler in the support role on the same level as a champion like Kayle, so it's normal that she can feel as useless as a pre-6 Kayle standing next to you in lane in certain situations. But her weird design does give her aforementioned strengths that you can play towards, and gives you a bit more agency than a pre-6 Kayle has. Because you are playing for 2 people, playing with Yuumi is also higher skillcap than other supports as you have more responsibilities, but being harder is not the same as being worse. It actually means it can be more rewarding than playing with other supports, provided you're capable of the challenge. This reward doesn't always have to be winning lane either, sometimes it can just be going even in a massively outscaling matchup, which is also a huge win. Hope this helped!
Finally !! A good adc content, a chill dude with sick gameplays and barely talks! Thank you sir, you got a new subscriber.
Hey Vapora ! Great video. One question, you play with 3 or 4 fingers? also whats ur keybind for attack move?
honestly i was hesitant to watch as im very unlikely to ever play jhin (i dislike his playstyle im more into shorter range adcs like nilah twitch trist that i learned how to play from you ) but after watching this i can say without a doubt this is ur best educational video ever the gameplay is perfection even in silver lobbies u need to watch it yourself to see how good it is ,,,, ps : that one twitch supp u got was smurfing (he dropped 200 kills in 10 games ) no wonder the overall score went 45-5 because its a bunch of random idiots vs 2 super op smurfs xD
Not trying to be rude but neither Twitch nor Tristana have short range iirc.
short ranged as in twitch before or without his R and tristana before level 13 her range goes up the more level she gets ikr@@jonnevitu4979
i love watching these, so much hidden info even tho its silver lobbies. keep it up man!
Hey Vapora! Love the video so far but I have a mechanics question. I noticed when you are taking jungle camps later in the game you almost never use your E to add to your damage, even if you’ll have to do an extra reload to finish the camp. Is there ever a good time to use your E on Jungle camps, or just better generally to do the extra reload?
It was probably a mistake, it's definitely worth using traps to take camps faster.
@@VaporaDarkYeah, watching further, I can see you do actually use it fairly often. I’m very new to Jhin so I just wasn’t sure if using E is actually faster or there’s some mechanic I don’t know. Thanks for your help!
Been a long time since i have played the game but always enjoyed jhin in past seasons. It feels like watching this the aa damage output seems low compared to other carries. Is this a build thing or is this just how adc role is currently? Been a few seasons since i have played
learning a lot from your video. Thank you for being thorough and taking the time to explain the reasoning behind every action. Thanks again.
Why do most of these to diamond series only reach up to silver? I'm a jhin main with 65% wr in plat 4 rn. Wish there were more games. The only adcs I see you've reached is with kaisa and jinx? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Off the top of my head I've completed Kai'Sa, Jinx, Caitlyn, Aphelios, Ashe, with the last of those being completed maybe ~4 months ago (Aphelios and Ashe were around the same time). Since then I've switched to an approach where I work on every series at once (for more champion variety) so there are less completions being made currently, but eventually there will be a large wave of completions within a short period. At the moment I just make a video on whichever account is lowest ranked in order to make sure they're all climbing at the same pace and not be biased towards/against any particular champion.
Here's the list at the moment: i.imgur.com/ku4xhuO.png There's suddenly large gaps in rank only because the new season reset is so favourable while in the previous splits all my accounts had high MMR but low rank, so the ones I've done placements on this season are way higher than the ones I haven't gotten round to yet. Previously every account was silver 3-gold 4, which was misleading because the highest of those accounts were already in plat/Emerald MMR. Even in this video in "Silver 2" we faced a lot of plat players, though we still had mostly gold MMR.
You should expect to see Jhin within my next few uploads and it's likely the account will end up in plat by the end of the video. Within the next few months if I keep up a good pace every account will be in Diamond MMR, but we likely won't see full completion of every account until Split 2 because of how time intensive this project is.
Hi Vapora, love you videos mate.
What do you think about the next season? What adc do you think will be busted?
i play jhin mid in em, id be interested on what you think about my game play? i like your macro.
I've been struggling with jhin's itemization the past few days. I don't know when to go gale, when to go yomuus and when to go IE. They also all have similar winrates
Could you explain how you pick which build to go as jhin?
If you want to keep it simple, just use the Galeforce build every time, it's never bad. Galeforce vs Youmuu's comes down to stronger early damage but poor damage lategame onto tanks with Youmuu's, while Galeforce build is worse early but scales better (and gives more mobility later on as well). Galeforce vs IE comes down to IE scaling better than Galeforce, but being the worse item overall. But it's an option if you want to be the strongest Jhin you can possibly be in the late-game.
Could you show your mmr in the left corner?
Like Silver 3 (MMR P3) or so 😄
It would be nice, but sounds like too much trouble to upkeep, I'd have to look up the ranks in every single game and update it during game-start.
How you replay your play after death i need program name pleasee
Bro, you went hwei too far with these puns
EDIT: :] Who am I kidding, I'm hwei into this
Hey vapora, one of my friends is a Yuumi OTP because he doesnt like the game that much and doesnt wanna try and i'm a mid main trying to learn adc so that he can play more but i'm having a lot of trouble with it cause with Yuumi I always feel like i'm playing a 1v2.
do you have any tips/champs to recommend playing? I like kai'sa but she has a horrible winrate with Yuumi if I remember correctly
With Yuumi it's important to remember that you are positioning for 2 people. This has upsides and downsides. Upside is that you and Yuumi are *always* in sync, so if the enemy support is mispositioned then you're basically 2v1 against the enemy ADC. Downside is that if you are mispositioned, then Yuumi is mispositioned, making mispositioning all the more punishing. Yuumi can't do much to save you from being all-in'd as well, so the bar for being mispositioned against engage supports is also much lower than usual, forcing you to have to play extra carefully. Consider rushing tier 2 boots as soon as possible, as it aids immensely with repositioning and keeping you safe, which is doubly important with Yuumi because of her limited early protection, and the fact that keeping yourself safe keeps her safe too.
Yuumi is also decent at winning wars of attrition. Even though they removed the heal from her E, she still gets quite a lot of healing from landing her Q, and her E blocks a lot of damage while being very easy to use and time properly (since she doesn't have to aim anything unlike other enchanters). The best matchups for her are purely trading-focused matchups, you shouldn't be struggling too much in these, especially if you abuse the fact that you can play safe when the enemy bot lane is positioned together, but punish the ADC when their support is mispositioned and not able to properly aid them in trades. For those engage-focused matchups, you need to definitely just rush T2 boots and play save to avoid engages at all costs.
Remember that at the end of the day, Yuumi is a hyperscaler in the support role on the same level as a champion like Kayle, so it's normal that she can feel as useless as a pre-6 Kayle standing next to you in lane in certain situations. But her weird design does give her aforementioned strengths that you can play towards, and gives you a bit more agency than a pre-6 Kayle has. Because you are playing for 2 people, playing with Yuumi is also higher skillcap than other supports as you have more responsibilities, but being harder is not the same as being worse. It actually means it can be more rewarding than playing with other supports, provided you're capable of the challenge. This reward doesn't always have to be winning lane either, sometimes it can just be going even in a massively outscaling matchup, which is also a huge win.
Hope this helped!
does this build works for the latest patch 14.3 - s14, split 1??
With IE instead of Galeforce, yeah it should, although I haven't tried it yet.
Which runes do you use?
Runes are on the left of the HUD at the bottom of the screen.