What I can't stand with Shane, and has always rubbed me the wrong way is him constantly bringing up how poor he is... He brings up being in a bad financial situation but the fact he made upwards of 20 million from ONE makeup launch and has been on TH-cam for 15 years and wants sympathy from his audience who have average paying 9 to 5 jobs is almost insulting. Love your content and the side eye you give the iPad when things aren't adding up, much love from Utahhhhh
Taxes in America make that $10mil. Not saying that’s not a lot of money but it’s not a lifetime supply especially when he buys $5mil houses and Gucci backpacks and track suits 🤷♀️
@@tatertotter808 that's his problem then lol. It's not hard to manage (apparently post taxes) 10 million dollars. Boo hoo. Sell the property and resell the Gucci bags and get a more affordable house and budget accordingly. He has the money for an accountant. It's not like managing a family on food stamps and one income.
I dont care about his trauma, stopped once he started to victimize others. I’ll never forget him asking a child to twerk for him. Joke or not that was a real child and he was grown. Im sick of trauma being used as a shield to accountability, most people have trauma, if everyone uses that as an excuse there would never ever be justice or consequences. He should have stayed gone. Also, shane in my opinion is one of the most manipulative people on this platform, i wouldnt ever fully trust the things he says. He got his career through manipulating people into thinking he was the sweetest guy alive, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
All the times Shane pleads for sympathy: - Shane got cancelled during his engagemen 1Shane hated himself, it was so dark for him during his cancellation -3?3! His therapist couldn’t handle the stress or the haters - I used to get 20 million views - I can’t afford my LA house anymore because I I got cancelled Your own actions are the cause of all this, stop looking for sympathy & trying to be cute. The giggling at the beginning of the video for no reason is old Shane vibes. Just be real. Sorry for typos I’m visually impaired lol
They also bought a huge house in Colorado during his cancellation so I have 0 sympathy for him. Just sell one of your 2 houses, you privileged sad sack. 🙄
I’m glad that he’s actually talking about how his trauma EXPLAINS some of his jokes but doesn’t EXCUSE them. However some of the things he did were so horrible that it makes no sense that his trauma would cause him to do that. Imo he enjoyed really dark humour back then and found an audience that likes the racism and sexism. Then he just kept trying to “best” his videos and it just crazier and crazier cause of the views and catering to that audience.
I feel like that actually is part of his trauma too, needing to feel approval from others and his desperate need to stay relevant are very much 'I'm suffering and need other people to like me to feel better'
I think this was SUCH an excellent depiction of his old videos yknow I’m not defending them they weren’t okay and disturbing it completely explains it not excusing but that makes better sense
God he still doesn't get it.. I gave him the benefit of the doubt cause as a milenial we grew up in disgustingly toxic times like saying the n word was super normalized/appropriated by kids trying to be cool. But he's still deflecting and not actually taking accountability yet he expects he deserves the privilege to just move on from it... Like youre 34 you've been young enough to keep up with cultural shift and old enough to have perspective 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I’m not gonna praise him for the bare minimum. He was a bad person who hurt a lot of people, and he needs to apologize to those people. I love the video and the fact that your bringing this long-time-needed video to your audience, don’t get me wrong. But it really feels like we’re praising him for the bare minimum here
He did apologize many times but the apologies have not been accepted by everyone. Idk I think it’s just a case of ppl not liking him, he publicly showed an aspect of himself ppl didn’t like, and millions of ppl are never gonna be 100% happy with an apology jus the same way 1 person may not be happy with your apology… but at least you can correct it for them.
i’ve been LITERALLY sick thinking of shane since learning he splooged on his cat, swapped spit with his dogs, and physically touched/verbally s*xualized a handful of his underage fans. literally anything beyond that just adds to the sickness and that’s baseline crap he did even decades ago.
As some one who grew up in the same environment he described ( Dark humor and childhood trauma) I have opinions: I’m raised in a culture where dark jokes are norm. I remembered the jokes my friends say and at the time I didn’t think much of it and now we say shit that was pretty dark, and we were ashamed of ourselves. The problem with Shane is he kept those jokes up for too long. It’s his go to jokes. He kept it going. He didn’t stop until the hate was too much that he was forced to. They were the lowest darkest jokes you can think of, but he didn’t think that. If at one point he thought it was wrong, he would’ve deleted it before anyone told him to. But he didn’t. He only did when people boycotted him. I’m pretty sure he thinks some of those jokes are still funny because that mentality is rooted inside him. It’s obvious he needs a lot of help. I’m not sure how it works but I hope he pays a great deal for therapy because something rooted in childhood is hard to change. Also most people with childhood trauma learn pretty quickly what’s wrong and right. He’s not a hermit, he’s not stuck in his childhood bubble. He’s been out in society and in the internet long enough to be educated. Surely he has at least one friend who questioned him…If not, he should question his friend group. Let’s stop this misconception that people with childhood trauma can be a piece of shit.
@@scipiodriver4076 He never abused any child. That’s a serious accusation. Police itself said there’s no reason to arrest him. Be careful or you can be sued someday. Because I don’t think you are mean only to Shane. One day you’ll cross the wrong person and you’ll have something. Take the hint.
@@carolferreira705 the police never said that, that was complete bullshit made up by Sanders Kennedy. The fact is shane has REPEATEDLY publicly admitted to soliciting CP from little kids on Daily Booth. If you’re going to defend these creeps, at least don’t be stupid enough to deny shit they admit to. And did you seriously just threaten me because I have a conscience and call out child SA? The fuck is wrong with you? How stupid do you have to be to publicly threaten a crime to cover up another crime? I hope you one day get the help you clearly need
I’m so ashamed of myself, I used to LOVE Shane and follow him for years. I was young and didn’t know what black face was or what he was doing was wrong.🤦🏻♀️
Don’t feel ashamed. You didn’t know any better because you were a child. It wasn’t like nowadays where kids have a better understanding thanks to the media. I was in your shoes once too. I used to love Shane and once considered him my favorite TH-camr. He’s the grown ass adult who’s at blame, not us. Now, if you were continuing to defend him, it would be one thing. However, we grew up and realized that what he did wasn’t ok. When the first racism scandal came out, I didn’t excuse his behavior in the slightest. However, I decided to give him another chance because he seemed like he changed. Then come to find out that was just the tip of the iceberg. It’s so sick to me how so many of us were dare I say… manipulated? He knew how to play the game. It still makes my stomach turn knowing that as a kid, I used to laugh at his pedophilic “humor” because I (like so many others) thought it was normal. I forgot about the comments he made towards his fans and Willow Smith. When I saw the videos again, the only thing I could think of was “Dear God, if so many kids thought this behavior was normal, imagine how many kids were tricked into dangerous situations.” Then I saw the video of him kissing an underage fan… I was even more disgusted. I know it’s not my fault because I was a young teenager, but I still feel so guilty for actually giving this man money to pay his bills every time I watched a video.
@@kyleesmith9874 Same. I do that with celebrities too just to make sure. People call me a “sensitive Liberal snowflake” for it but I don’t care. Excuse me for trying to be a decent human being. In another world where Shane actually changed and meant his apologies (and didn’t prey on his fans) I probably would have given him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, that’s not the way it went down.
It's okay sweet heart, we're all learning and sometimes when you're young you don't really notice things like that and how they can be so problematic. I used to be a fan of him too and i can definitely relate
I just can never believe I watched his videos. For some reason I never see anybody talking about the videos of him kissing underage fans or spitting chewing gum in their mouths at his meet and greets. On top of all the other horrible and disgusting things he has done the grooming and weird interactions with children I can never support him again.
It only became a problem when he befriended Jeffree Star. It’s about jealousy. Before that, honestly people didn’t care at all. It’s easy to throw rocks on Shane, but people (his audience) must be held accountable as part of the problem either. You blame Shane, but he never forced you to watch his old videos. For me, Shane is the one I knew when he did Jeffree’s docuseries and the palettes. I won’t dig up whatever he did before that, ten years ago or more. That’s sick and people should leave past in the past, since he doesn’t want it anymore.
Shane's attempt at taking accountability grinds my gears extra hard because I always remember that Jenna Marbles completely left and took it seriously even though what she did was only a fraction of what Shame did
"I'm an empath and I have trauma, so let say the "n" word and talk inappropriately about my cat. Remember, I have _trauma_ so you can't be mad at me." - Shane, probably. I have PTSD, I understand that trauma can miss with someone. It can affect their sense of humour as a coping mechanism, it can cause hypersexuality or asexuality. (Not saying that everyone asexual has PTSD, juts saying it _can_ be a result.) Trauma can make you lash out at the people you love and strangers. _But_ guess what, Shane??? *You* are still in control of *your* words and *your* actions. Trauma does not excuse anything, even if it does explain it. There's a difference, and that's accountability.
I started watching Shane around 2015, probably at the worst of my anxiety and depression- and that was why he resonated with me, the self-deprecation and talks about his mental health. For being on youtube since maybe 2012, I knew that he was one of the originals, but I never looked or watched his videos cause yeah it was dark and not for me. Not that the content that I was subscribed to was great or clean by any means, but I think because of where I was mentally I was okay with it? Since I've been stable for almost 3 years, there is that soft spot where I do feel for him when it comes to his trauma and whatever, but at the same time, we as humans can only use that as an excuse for so long. Like I am not saying that poeple can't use that as an excuse, cause I only know my experience, but I was very anxious and depressed because of my own doing and how I felt towards myself for a point in time. Shane obviously has a dark history and trauma, and yeah that's sad, BUT he made this racist, bigoted, homophobic, antisemitic, etc content for YEARS, and only brought it up when he was "cancelled"...I still hate that term cause when people are being held accountable, they use the term cancelled and it's like "oh the internet hates me agina" like no, you are in an era where people want to know who they are taking their time to watch and listen to.
It’s so weird seeing Shane again. When I was younger (middle school) I used to watch Shane when his humor was racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. and I thought some of it was funny. I knew some of it was wrong, but I thought edgy humor was just that, humor. However, I’ve learned and grown since then but I have to remember that I was and am part of the problem. I continued to watch him when he grew into the 20 million views per video Shane and kind of forgot about those videos he used to create. When it all came back into the light, i had to take a long hard look into the mirror and unpack what it means to take accountability. Cancel culture is a fascinating thing and wonderful but also horrifying. I’m still not sure how I feel about him being cancelled.
@@scipiodriver4076 It's not mixed feelings about him being called out and being held accountable, it's mixed feelings of my part in the problem and realizing there are many people just like me who watched his videos back then and supported him. He wouldn't have gotten to where he was without a following and though shane has done a lot of wrong, he is also a symptom of a much larger problem, not the sole cause. Does that make sense?
@@desireedriver6390 for me, i think it was ignorance and also thinking the edginess and shock factor was somehow 'cool'? idk, it's definitely cringe to look back at now, but there definitely was a time that I thought shananay was the funniest thing i've ever seen.
I’m so glad you watched it so I didn’t have to! I don’t feel sorry for Shane at all. Poor Shane living in LA and having financial issues. Give. Me. A. Break. How does he not have money from before all of this happened?! He’s such a joke. If I were him I would have just left the internet alone. I will never have respect for this guy.
Wait, the airport worker called you out for wearing pajamas...at the airport....? that's like one of the few places where it's socially acceptable to wear pajamas, I thought.
Idk I can't bring myself back to liking him or giving him another chance. A leopard never changes their spots. I've learned that lesson in with people in my life. Shane's manipulative behavior reminds me of a lot of them, ones I've had to cut out of my life. Just don't trust him. Am I wrong? Childhood trauma doesn't excuse p*do and racist jokes. Many of us have gone through such horrific things as kids and we don't do the things Shane did. I just feel like he's bullsh*tting us yet again. He doesn't seem sincere and tbh it's not my fault that I feel that way due to his apology after apology after apology that were all fake and forced. Sorry
@@secret_senshi everyone expierences n deal with traumas in different ways and like being poor n having dysfunctional can really mess u up in future n is trauma but I don’t know Shane but u said everyone experiences trauma this is just an add on to that. Also trauma can do a lot when u go untreated look at dahmer……. Just be lucky he is treatment w those kinds of thought n shi in his past 💀
Every time I watch these videos it feels like I’m sitting on my bed gossiping with my little brother🥹 also giving the Heathers vibe and I’m all for it!
captions would be helpful. I have an almost one year old and with your contagious energy, she'd rather watch then go to bed! 😂😫 as always, great content (I'm sure, since I'm rocking the baby and only catch bits and pieces) been curious about how others will approach this. love from KY, USA. ❤️
Thank You❤️❤️ I wanted to bring up this topic but I wasn't sure how to start! I am hard on hearing and sometimes I need to replay some bits and I am sure that for People like me or even learning English it would be a life saver💜
I have to say for 10 to 15 years his content was not offending or pissing anybody off. It's true today is a very very different time. Shit he did back then will never fly today, hence the cancelation. But when he was making that awful disgusting content, everyone was EATING IT UP because that's just what the climate of the internet was at the time. Tgats why so many creators have SOMETHING from the same time period creep up on them now in this new era of political correctness. It was never just Shane. He just was obsessed with getting content out and pushing the limit, so each day a new disgusting old tweet or video or clip would come out. I just wanted to point out that sure, maybe a few people watched in horror as Shane did black face or made inappropriate asf jokes, but majority of his fans at that time, at their age (young) gobbled that shit up because they idolized him.
Child abuse wasn’t even LEGAL, let alone socially acceptable at the time it happened. Maybe YOU weren’t pissed off by it, but those of us with a conscience ABSOLUTELY were disgusted and called out his abuse as it was happening. Stop this pedo normalization bullshit
It's weird to see shane again,, after what he did I feel weird seeing him again but the video you made about him was great and I hope to see more videos from u🙂
Yea. I remember when he was cancelled for the whole cat thing and the whole willow Smith thing, someone from my old high school who I haven't talked to in years messaged me saying shave Dawson was getting cancelled, that he's a pervert and I was trash for watching him. And I'm like honey I was a teenager and I haven't watched him for years.
Ya know, at about 22:22, I was like I kinda get where Shane was coming from about that singular point, but then I thought about it and he's acting like he doesn't understand what the grand public was possibly asking of him, and that's why it was getting to be so much and so overwhelming, but like we were there. A lot of people mainly just wanted him to address everything and fucking apologize and own up to his shitty behavior. It was basic responsibility. Do that and then maybe people would have believed you'd matured in the past 10 years. But he didn't. And that's why the situation kept getting more intense. He released his video that didn't address more than half the shit in his past and that just made people more mad because he was still dodging accountability while also discarding his previous apology videos.
Idk unpopular opinion but I feel like Shane is taking the fall for a lot of creators who were exactly like him back then. A lot of people cancelling him are people who used to watch and condone all his videos. It really was like 15 years ago and he should have addressed it and deleted the videos a long time ago but I feel like it was jokes idk poor jokes but that’s how they were at the time. Not an excuse but to be completely cancelled for something a lot of people were doing at the time? Idk seems a bit extreme
What other creators abused kids? Made kids send CP to them? No one is saying it’s impossible to call out more than one criminal at a time babe, that’s just you projecting. If you have info on another criminal then you have a moral obligation to call them out
Ooof. Where to even start? I will begin by saying I still strongly believe Shane does not deserve to have a platform at all. I obviously wish him the best of luck in his personal life, and I don't want him feeling the need to take his own life, and I feel like finally leaving the internet for good would be a good way of atoning AND better for his overall mental health. Let's not forget he probably still has enough money to basically retire and live comfortably for a long time. It is time to finally step aside and let new creators be at the forefront. I'll say that this podcast seems like a step in the right direction, but too little, WAY TOO late 😑 . And what bothers me is that despite the fact that he says he is glad he was cancelled, he did SO much to cover things up by deleting hundreds of videos off his channels and basically scrubbing his entire old podcast off the internet. And why is he only speaking about this on someone else's platform instead of bringing it up on his own new podcast or as a topic for his own video 🤔 ? Obviously he is afraid to call too much attention to his own actions because that will only lead to ANOTHER cancellation 🙄 ... I could go on and on, but Shane needs to move on already. I believe he does deserve a happy and fulfilling life, but he doesn't need TH-cam or the internet for that.
He really thought (and probably still thinks) the best way to start friendships & relationships is by being mean and shit talking someone?? And then he has the audacity to be like "why do I have no friends?🥺"...Dude is a walking red flag lol
This is a huge thing in Chicago. People actually get friends like this AND get praised for it.. give it a year or two and those besties are separated because one overshadowed the other / or grew tired of the toxicity..
28 y.o. Started watching him at the VERY beginning. When I was maybe 15??? I don’t remember exactly lol. But man I’m proud of him, I was a SCUMBAG in my early 20’s I couldn’t imagine going through it in front of the internet…. I will be 29 soon and am JUST getting it together. You guys need to remember, we are ALL gonna mess up immensely… we’re gonna hurt people along our paths (it’s a given-and if you think you’re better then that- ummmm LOL We can all learn from each other and our own experience
We all mess up but we don’t all abuse countless kids for over TWO YEARS. Shane literally told us in this interview that he doesn’t want to change. You are delusional if you think he’s learned anything
@@scipiodriver4076 what kids did he abuse? I don’t think anyone has came out… have they? And when did he say he didn’t want to change? I never saw or heard that either…. You can dislike him. Not everyone is going to
@@letihanson5954 shane abused kids on Daily Booth, look it up this isn’t hidden or anything. And Shane straight up said he doesn’t care what people think of his child abuse, do you REALLY not see how that’s him saying he doesn’t want to change? Come on now. You should do more research into the people you support before you have another embarrassing incident like this
Shane is a hot mess in this interview. Can’t even complete sentences because of how careful he is to explain himself. Giving reasons without explaining and moving on. Yikes
I don’t think the humor has changed over the years that much. The biggest change is the age of his audience. We were children watching his videos and didn’t realize how gross his jokes were. We grew up and realized it was wrong
I think regardless of what he says or does, I would never be able to trust him again and not feel wrong watching his content. I can't fully trust that he isn't just telling people what they wanna hear because he can't afford his lavish lifestyle anymore. Plus, when Garrett was showing up less in his videos I think I realized Garrett was what made me fall in love with Shane's videos in the beginning :/ Edit: Plus it still bothers me that I have yet to hear him acknowledge at ALL any of the predatory behavior such as asking his teenage fans to do weird things on livestream and even in person when he was like 25ish.
The way he seemed to say that so many people/communities were hurt by what he said and it seemed like a new one ever day, so because there were so many he didn't address anyone???? Like there's so much fire in this house that I can't start spraying water on any of it??? Like that may be what he was feeling at the time, but that's so gross.
As someone who was growing up on the internet back when the humor Shane is referring to was "funny". One thing I don't see people talk about tho is big channels like SMOSH legit made the same kind of jokes and those guys are still around too. Thinking back on that time, I didn't understand the context of the jokes and their harm, but I genuinely as a middle schooler was laughing and watching those videos at the time because it's what friends told me to watch or it's what was popular. I was willingly and eagerly taking in that entertainment at the time. Thinking back I do not think it's funny now at all and I see how wrong the jokes were now but was to young to know context at the time as a LITERAL CHILD. I will admit, tho channels like Shane and smosh had me thinking taboo stuff = peak humor. Because during early internet that's legit how people acted was like humor was 90% shock factor. It was like a competition to who could say the most fucked up shit even arbitrarily. Makes you think about how much that influences kids. (This was also around the same time that boys in school would joke about playing the fire truck game on your leg... look it up if you don't know) 😬
THIS. I almost never see people say what you’ve said, even tho you’re 100% right. I also grew up watching Shane, my friends told me to watch him and I 100% feel like all of us kids were groomed. Taught to think of horrible issues like r*pe and p***philia as jokes. It distanced me from the actual topics I was joking about, topics I didn’t even fully understand, because the only time I ever heard about these hard issues was when TH-camrs or me and my friends made fun of them. I hate how these commentary channels never really fully empathize with the young viewers who were subjected to this content. I’ve spent years and years unlearning and relearning so much, and while I don’t need any validation for that, I would prefer a more objective viewpoint when these commenters talk about Shane’s viewers.
Smosh never made kids send them illegal pics like shane did. Stop trying to normalize his abuse, the fact is not everyone back then was preying on kids an it’s disgusting to insinuate otherwise
what pisses me off is when they say they don't have a bunch of money.. bullshit! in EVERY episode of rylands he's spending a butt ton of money buying such useless things and brand name ugly shoes etc.. so many ppl starving and homeless and they are buying all this crap acting so self entitled.. very sad.
I dont like Shane. I don't support him. BUT I feel that THIS is the most SHOWN growth we've seen from him. It's honest. It's taking responsibility. It's NOT making a joke of his cancelation. It's actual visible growth for the first time since all that took place. So good for him. That's all we can hope and pray for. Is his actual growth from the past.
What are you smoking? He straight up said in this interview that good came out of his crimes and he doesn’t care what people think of his crimes or him not taking accountability. *That’s him publicly bragging about not wanting to change.* I don’t understand how anyone could be delusional enough to think that is somehow a sign of growth
I’m happy he’s taking ownership of what he did and I hope he’s doing okay because I don’t believe he is bad person I genuinely he believe he’s a good person. Just BAD jokes
I'm not even trying to argue with you but did you watch that "behind the chair" show? his personality was shown in that show and he did not seem like a good person. he seemed very self centered, he called the actors who didn't wanna say offense stuff "losers" essentially, that they shouldn be glad they are getting hired for any work at all etc. he didn't wanna hear any feedback about why his movie needed some work or revisions... it wasn't a good look. I'm pretty sure it was called behind the chair, or maybe the directors chair... it was a show produced by Zachary Quinto (he was also kinda the host of the show and he really didn't like Shane).
@@Throatzillaaa I have lol your all good it’s okay to have different opinions and respect each other :) alright that was like 10 year ago and and he was a shitty person and he should have gotten checked for it and he did (he got “canceled”) then but he’s different now. From when I watch he seems pretty careful with what he says lol and does and I believe he has a different take out of life and he goes to therapy so He’s trying atleast Ik people who has mental problems and doesn’t get help( just an example) He was also younger then though I’m sure his brain has changed especially from when he was 20-30. And with all those cancellations I’m sure he was in a very dark place. Imagine everything you worked for and all your friends turn your back on you and the whole world knows like that has to do something to ya 😂 For what I see I do watch a lot of drama channels and I used to watch him a lot not anymore because I’m just not interested. In less Adam posts about him(I watch Ethan now lol) anyways…People change and everyone says mean shit to some extent idk I feel like he has got his karma for his past. I’m not saying we forget about it. We clearly don’t wanna have him repeat the negative things/ actions he did. It good to Hold him accountable. It good to give credit when credit is do.
Although I mostly agree and I’m not trying to argue but rather point something out is that, one thing that sticks with me is the fact he used to be very inappropriate to minors and even gave his chewed up gum from his mouth to a minors mouth when he was in his 20s or the ‘joke’ he made about willing to do wills smith kid when she was like 9 years old or when he would tell underage girls to twerk online when chatting with them etc will always stick with me. I can understand the other shit thing he did but those will always make me question him because I don’t know why he thought it was okay to do or say back then. Yes it was a different time period back then but it’s still just… so questionable. But he is going to therapy now so maybe he’s learning and growing and won’t be gross like that again. I don’t know but I just hope he’s not like that anymore, but what I’m worried about it is that he could still be like that off camera and we wouldn’t know. Like hides it or something? But I am glad he’s taking ownership of what he’s mainly said and did. But Personally I don’t think he’s the worst person out there. Definitely not the best but not the worst either.
And Shane didn’t take ownership over his crimes, did you even watch the interview? I swear I feel like some of you didn’t and are just blindly defending this creep
He said he was being nice to everyone in his every day life...but if you look at the way he treated his assistant/Zachary Quinto while he was filming that horrible movie(as one example), you can see that's not true either. Also, as much as I don't like TP, it takes a very specific sort of person to pretend to be great friends with someone to their face and then bad mouth them constantly behind their back to anyone who will listen; even if you are speaking truthfully about the person to others...stop being phony to their face...it's weird and it also encourages their shitty behaviour.
The only thing I agree with him on is the side eye when people say “I’ve been watching you since I was a kid and I’m soooo disappointed to hear you did all this!” Like what? You watched all that too then lol. As someone who didn’t learn about him until his docu-series phase I don’t understand how anyone could be a long term fan of his!
Will he ever stop talking about his cancellation? I’ve never watched a video of his and I’ve heard about his cancellation for years now. I’m so over it.
Oh poor Shane are you broke? Come see my family and how we have to live. I starve so my kids can eat some days. Don't tell me what broke is. You make me sick.
Love this top on you! You look amazing! As for Shane, he really just needs to go and live life elsewhere. I think he's still living for clicks and views rather than being authentic.
Ngl this is just some top tier manipulation, he’s just carefully finessing his way back into positive light. I’ve been around for so many of these cycles now, they’re all the same. People get into trouble and then manipulate their way back into the publics favor, but their true colors will shine again. For example, Trisha and J*. I’m determined not to fall for it again. I am so done with being let down and made to feel like a fool for believing them when they have their small redemption arch
I don’t understand how so many people can be delusional enough to think shane even WANTS to change, much less is actually trying to change. *He literally told us he doesn’t want to change in this interview by insisting good came out of his child abuse and that he doesn’t care what people think about him not taking accountability for that crime.
I don't feel bad for Shane and I don't think he deserves any praise. Imo he is basically STILL just crying that his very bad jokes (that he doubled down on defending for so long) had finally come to bite him in the ass. He said horrible things about women, Jewish people, people of color, children, animals, ect because of... Trauma...? I know we all go through trauma differently, but there comes to a point where you know you are hurting others, and you need to break the cycle. You can have trauma and still be a bad person, just because you went through hardships doesn't mean those hardships made you a good person. Shane is Bi(last time I heard he came out as bi so sorry if that's no longer true. I know people can further develop their preferences as they learn about themselves) so I can understand how maybe he was struggling with that and made some uncouth jokes about sexuality, but you'd think if he really felt bad about perpetuating these bad stereotypes about the people he was making jokes about he would talk about it more, not be quiet to save his own ass/money. It's a great talking point on how minorities can still discriminate against their own community because they are stressed about fitting in with rich, straight, cis, white, men. (Think when Blair White knowingly and blatantly lied about Janae Kroc to fit her narrative of "Trans people bad, but I'm not like other trans girls 🤪".) It's June and a good time to talk about that sort of thing! But he wants to talk about how he was sad that is very hurtful jokes made people hate him... Did he say those hurtful things because he got views and those views got him money, or did he say them to cope with trauma? And is he apologizing now because it might get him more money, or is he doing it because he feels bad and wants to fix the harm he has caused? And is he being so nondescript because it's all bs to get more money, or is he doing it because it's still too sensitive to talk about on video? I don't really think he said much more now than he has been. The only new thing is that he finally admitted that there are not 2 Shane's, the good Shane that he is now and one that's bad from forever ago; there is one Shane and that Shane mad lots of fuckie wuckies. Fuckie wuckies that I believe he COULD atone for if he wanted to. I won't believe Shane is a good person until he continually does the right thing for an extended period of time. I know it isn't fair, but the more mistakes you make, the harder it is for people to believe or trust you. That's just life unfortunately. It's how people keep themselves safe from other people who might not have their best interest in mind. Also weird he didn't mention him chatting sexually on Omegle with his underage fans... Or was that lumped in with 'its just a joke', and we shouldn't take it too seriously?
I enjoyed the podcast a lot to be honest! It definitely made me think about the morals of cancel culture. Putting myself in his shoes, I don’t know what I would do if that many people were upset with me at once. I’ve never been one to jump in and say mean things but I’m guilty of watching from the sidelines :(
Hearing Shane Dawson say that he was always a nice person is just so weird having watched his behavior in the behind the scenes of that blindingly awful movie he created😬
I’ve been watching your videos for about a year now, thank you for making videos. I’ve lost nearly all my family members in the last 6 months and you have always made me feel less alone. Thank you for being a friend 💖
I used to watch shane, I watched the sketches from back in the day and watched his new stuff up to the makeup launch. So I’m not a proper fan but liked some of his stuff. Now I can’t speak on the kid/homophobic jokes but as for the racist stuff I feel like there is only so much we can say. As far as we are aware he doesn’t make them anymore. And at this point I feel like if you don’t want to watch his stuff that’s okay but I also know that it’s really hard to grow when you’re constantly being beat down. I’m not trying to stick up for him but I know I’ve been a horrible person at times in my life but I changed and proved that change by not hurting others. As a human I think he deserves a chance to change. He may be worthy of change, but we won’t know that till we see it. Should he come back? I think that’s an individual decision on wether you choose to watch him or not. Great video Adam
Shane Dawson is not a good person. When I was younger I used to watch is controversial content obviously being naive and young I could comprehend what was wrong with it but as I grew up I grew to not like him even more just because him as a person was just v weird and odd to me. And then seeing all of the old content come out the woodwork which I vaguely remembered watching as a kid, it was not surprising see what was being revealed because he was always odd to me and you’re right about them his controversial content bought him his whole career basically end that can’t really be forgiven and he’s going to live with that and those actions surrounding his name for the rest of his life. And it’s funny when you say that him making it an excuse that “he was young” or “it was a different audience at the time” not being a valid excuse because whatever excuse his saying, he was a grown person grown enough to make his own decisions he knew what he was doing. He was at least 18+ making this content it was his personality. he had no idea of the implications and the consequences of everything he did and that’s a disaster he made for himself and it will affect him in his career for a very very long time😬
Most of his career was built on racist content, “jokes” about mental issues/handicapped people, “jokes”about sexual assault, “jokes” about children, etc. When I was 12 to 14 from 2008 to 2010, I thought some of his jokes were normal to make (I was not aware of the blackface content at the time but I knew who Shanaynay was and I remember not being critical of his jokes mimicking Helen Keller). There is so much content that he influenced on children’s humor and when another TH-camr who I watched, chescaleigh called him out for his racist content around 2014, he bullied her with Trisha and kept making the racist content. I genuinely hope that he is actually improving for the better now but after he repeatedly bullied chescaleigh, I stopped supporting him back then and even more so now that the stuff came out about the pet jokes and his jokes with minors.
I'm surprised he didn't get more hate back in the day.. 🤔 If he was suicidal I feel bad for him. How do u deal with that? More importantly, how does a therapist even give u the tools to come back from that? It's definitely interesting
I don’t think he’s actually suicidal though. If he is then I really hope he gets the help he needs, but Shane has done this his entire career. Whenever he starts to get the tiniest bit of criticism he tries to deflect by talking about suicide. It’s a classic manipulation tactic
Not defending him at all but I do sympathize. He spent 10-15 years making the same jokes and people watched and enjoyed it. I think its interesting to see how people get soo consumed by the internet feedback. To feel that love and validation for so long snd it all turn on a dime has got to throw your head through a loop
Do you not know Shane abused kids too? That shit was never even LEGAL, let alone acceptable. Kids being too young to know any better is no excuse for a grown man preying on them for over a decade
i hate the fact that i’ve literally grown up watching him & had to unlearn so many things that he taught me on youtube cause i was so young i had no idea it was wrong & i thought it was so crazy that it was funny. then again, i was literally 9-10 years old when i first discovered him on youtube (in the early early sketch days, within the first year or two of him making content). I forgot about so many things he would upload and started watching him again when he made content with his gf at the time, Lisa. half of the jokes he made went over my head bc i was still so young. I watched him all the way up until i was around 16 because that’s all i really knew & i loved when he made those huge cakes out of random weird foods. I stopped watching him for a while again until he started conspiracy theory videos & “documentaries”. When he got cancelled and everything was brought to light, being more educated now & understanding the things he did. it really just breaks my heart for my young self because i wish i could’ve known better & been more protected over these things i was seeing on the internet. I’ve grown a lot but i used to just not understand the way things worked & what wasn’t okay. I’m happy that this “cancel culture” is a huge thing now for the future generations & their way of navigating the internet. being able to know who is safe for your children to watch & what shows are good for them is extremely important. i’ve been absolutely traumatized by some things i’ve seen on the internet because my parents had no idea how to control it. Sorry for the rant bestie 😩😩😩
I wouldn’t call child SA nothing, but, then again, I actually have a conscience. Abusing kids isn’t comedy, you are sick in the head if you find that shit comedic
Interesting watching this today. Rylands family was flying in for the engagement. This makes me think Shane pre-planned it and him proposing doesn’t have anything to do with the cat drama 😮
I almost wonder if he made the apology video specifically to draw people to his channel. As he said people would wonder WHY he's apologizing. That would have generated traffic to his content and money $$. I'd be curious about what his analytics looked like back then. Around the time he posted the apology vid. I bet he was getting crickets.. loaing fundsss so he went for it. I know he literally says that is why his, "friends", DIDN'T want him to do a video... However..I believe he said that to try and make others believe what he is apologizing for isn't that bad.. again generating people who don't know him or why he's apologizing to his content. I think his friends are probably his own soul. I hear him. I don't believe him. I feel he is an opportunist. Imo: He is taking this podcast as an opportunity to try and flip the narrative to a new audience. He is actively telling us the content he created was because it was "oKaY bAcK tHeN". But then says he doesn't know why he created it.. It generated views and money. And I think he loved it. He joined the beauty community because he saw Jeffrey's lifestyle/ the OPPORTUNITY to create it for himself... When it comes to Shane I believe this is business. His moral compass is broken. And it is what it is for him. I am happy he sort of spoke out. But it has taken him a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if he strategically waited until now. Gathering his viewers thoughts/hopes for him to find out how to address this. He likely collected answers on how to approqch this feom then until now and is doing what everyonesaid they hoped he would do. He made a like what not to do checklist I imagine. Then he could mirror what people had hoped of him. 🕯🤍
Trauma doesn't excuse behavior. You cannot expect that, upon repeatedly hurting someone/displaying poor behavior, people will stick around when they realize you don't learn. I think lots of people have done things in their past they regret; even if they aren't to the level of Shane, we all have to take responsibility. We may have learned and made better, more educated choices now, but that's on us to do. Shane cannot repeatedly make mistakes, blame trauma, and expect people to come back if he refuses to actually address the problem within himself. I think he's a manipulator.
Do you not understand that child abuse is a felony? The fact that other criminals exist doesn’t give Shane a free pass on his crimes. Tf is wrong with you? How can you be so heartless towards child victims of SA?
I started watching Shane Dawson in 2009. I didn’t watch all his videos, but had some of his videos I would rewatch over and over again (not the ones he got cancelled for). Watching him since I was 12/13 years old, I may be a little bias because part of me will always have a soft spot for him.. I was so heart broken when I saw the things he has said and done while he was getting cancelled. I couldn’t believe it. Im happy he is finally talking about it. I sympathize that he felt so depressed. But I’m glad he can see that he needs to accept that some people will never forgive him, and rightfully so. He will always have backlash for the things that he did, and he did that to himself. All he can do is push to do better, acknowledge all his mistakes, and accept that people don’t have to forgive or like him after what he has done.
Yeah, “so traumatic for him and the interviewer”…He should consider the content he made stereotyping/belittling peoples race?? I’m sure those people weren’t traumatized/affected by his hateful ignorant racism!!
It's werid how things were diff back then -i lived it doesn't work nowadays, vise versa, for many reasons. So with CERTAIN things how can we be judge for those things. Other things I do get. But with everything...idk
He spent 10-15 yrs hurting ppl and emboldening bullies to hurt those groups too to the point where those groups wanted to off themselves. So I don’t feel bad at all that now it’s coming back and he gets a taste of what it’s like to be suicidal bc everyone hates u. He perpetrated that on others
Been having the worst anxiety of my life and I just said to myself please let my Mucker have uploaded ❤️ .. sometimes TH-camrs don’t know how much they do for people who struggle, having someone talking just makes me feel less alone.
I don't think he can be genuinly honest. I feel he's so wrapped in self loathing and self pity and urge to appeal to literally everyone, that he doesn't fully exist as a personality
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What I can't stand with Shane, and has always rubbed me the wrong way is him constantly bringing up how poor he is... He brings up being in a bad financial situation but the fact he made upwards of 20 million from ONE makeup launch and has been on TH-cam for 15 years and wants sympathy from his audience who have average paying 9 to 5 jobs is almost insulting. Love your content and the side eye you give the iPad when things aren't adding up, much love from Utahhhhh
you are 100% right and what a beautiful name you have!! ✨🫶🏻
lmao you seem like you're always RUBBED the wrong way. maybe you should check your panties that are in a bunch
Taxes in America make that $10mil. Not saying that’s not a lot of money but it’s not a lifetime supply especially when he buys $5mil houses and Gucci backpacks and track suits 🤷♀️
@@tatertotter808 that's his problem then lol. It's not hard to manage (apparently post taxes) 10 million dollars. Boo hoo. Sell the property and resell the Gucci bags and get a more affordable house and budget accordingly. He has the money for an accountant. It's not like managing a family on food stamps and one income.
@@tatertotter808 10 million is definitely a lifetime supply. It would buy them a large, comfortable house.
I dont care about his trauma, stopped once he started to victimize others. I’ll never forget him asking a child to twerk for him. Joke or not that was a real child and he was grown. Im sick of trauma being used as a shield to accountability, most people have trauma, if everyone uses that as an excuse there would never ever be justice or consequences. He should have stayed gone.
Also, shane in my opinion is one of the most manipulative people on this platform, i wouldnt ever fully trust the things he says. He got his career through manipulating people into thinking he was the sweetest guy alive, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I’m so happy you’re covering this because I don’t have the mental energy to watch him without your commentary 😭
SAME
Honestly same, I just can't anymore
Girl same
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All the times Shane pleads for sympathy:
- Shane got cancelled during his engagemen
1Shane hated himself, it was so dark for him during his cancellation
-3?3! His therapist couldn’t handle the stress or the haters
- I used to get 20 million views
- I can’t afford my LA house anymore because I I got cancelled
Your own actions are the cause of all this, stop looking for sympathy & trying to be cute. The giggling at the beginning of the video for no reason is old
Shane vibes. Just be real.
Sorry for typos I’m visually impaired lol
They also bought a huge house in Colorado during his cancellation so I have 0 sympathy for him. Just sell one of your 2 houses, you privileged sad sack. 🙄
Well said. He should finally grow up.
@@krakatoom Stupid people like you both don’t allow him to move on. Grow up yourselves.
I’m glad that he’s actually talking about how his trauma EXPLAINS some of his jokes but doesn’t EXCUSE them. However some of the things he did were so horrible that it makes no sense that his trauma would cause him to do that.
Imo he enjoyed really dark humour back then and found an audience that likes the racism and sexism. Then he just kept trying to “best” his videos and it just crazier and crazier cause of the views and catering to that audience.
completely agreed
@@AdamMcIntyre ❤️❤️
I feel like that actually is part of his trauma too, needing to feel approval from others and his desperate need to stay relevant are very much 'I'm suffering and need other people to like me to feel better'
I think this was SUCH an excellent depiction of his old videos yknow I’m not defending them they weren’t okay and disturbing it completely explains it not excusing but that makes better sense
His audience back then were CHILDREN. they didn’t know any better. HE was the adult.
God he still doesn't get it.. I gave him the benefit of the doubt cause as a milenial we grew up in disgustingly toxic times like saying the n word was super normalized/appropriated by kids trying to be cool. But he's still deflecting and not actually taking accountability yet he expects he deserves the privilege to just move on from it... Like youre 34 you've been young enough to keep up with cultural shift and old enough to have perspective 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
This 😩🙏 I just hate it when white 30yr men are stuck living two decades ago
I’m not gonna praise him for the bare minimum. He was a bad person who hurt a lot of people, and he needs to apologize to those people. I love the video and the fact that your bringing this long-time-needed video to your audience, don’t get me wrong. But it really feels like we’re praising him for the bare minimum here
Exactly. And only actions can show real remorse and moreover growth and development....as long as this isn't shown nothing changed for the better.
He did apologize many times but the apologies have not been accepted by everyone. Idk I think it’s just a case of ppl not liking him, he publicly showed an aspect of himself ppl didn’t like, and millions of ppl are never gonna be 100% happy with an apology jus the same way 1 person may not be happy with your apology… but at least you can correct it for them.
Anyone else so sick of Shane??
yes
Me 🤦🏻♀️
i’ve been LITERALLY sick thinking of shane since learning he splooged on his cat, swapped spit with his dogs, and physically touched/verbally s*xualized a handful of his underage fans. literally anything beyond that just adds to the sickness and that’s baseline crap he did even decades ago.
Yes
@@jamiedellafave8695 Agree completely, he crossed so many lines that he can't even see the lines anymore. It's just... 🐂💩
As some one who grew up in the same environment he described ( Dark humor and childhood trauma) I have opinions:
I’m raised in a culture where dark jokes are norm. I remembered the jokes my friends say and at the time I didn’t think much of it and now we say shit that was pretty dark, and we were ashamed of ourselves. The problem with Shane is he kept those jokes up for too long. It’s his go to jokes. He kept it going. He didn’t stop until the hate was too much that he was forced to. They were the lowest darkest jokes you can think of, but he didn’t think that. If at one point he thought it was wrong, he would’ve deleted it before anyone told him to. But he didn’t. He only did when people boycotted him. I’m pretty sure he thinks some of those jokes are still funny because that mentality is rooted inside him. It’s obvious he needs a lot of help. I’m not sure how it works but I hope he pays a great deal for therapy because something rooted in childhood is hard to change.
Also most people with childhood trauma learn pretty quickly what’s wrong and right. He’s not a hermit, he’s not stuck in his childhood bubble. He’s been out in society and in the internet long enough to be educated. Surely he has at least one friend who questioned him…If not, he should question his friend group. Let’s stop this misconception that people with childhood trauma can be a piece of shit.
Shane didn’t just make jokes, he also abused kids on daily booth. Child abuse isn’t comedy, it’s a felony
@@scipiodriver4076 you're right it isn't. But he said it as if he thought it was a joke so I'm only contradicting his excuse. hope that made sense.
@@scipiodriver4076 He never abused any child. That’s a serious accusation. Police itself said there’s no reason to arrest him. Be careful or you can be sued someday. Because I don’t think you are mean only to Shane. One day you’ll cross the wrong person and you’ll have something. Take the hint.
@@carolferreira705 the police never said that, that was complete bullshit made up by Sanders Kennedy. The fact is shane has REPEATEDLY publicly admitted to soliciting CP from little kids on Daily Booth. If you’re going to defend these creeps, at least don’t be stupid enough to deny shit they admit to.
And did you seriously just threaten me because I have a conscience and call out child SA? The fuck is wrong with you? How stupid do you have to be to publicly threaten a crime to cover up another crime? I hope you one day get the help you clearly need
I’m so ashamed of myself, I used to LOVE Shane and follow him for years. I was young and didn’t know what black face was or what he was doing was wrong.🤦🏻♀️
Me too. I felt so guilty after I found out. Now I do research when I start liking a youtuber, just to make sure I know what im getting into
Don’t feel ashamed. You didn’t know any better because you were a child. It wasn’t like nowadays where kids have a better understanding thanks to the media. I was in your shoes once too. I used to love Shane and once considered him my favorite TH-camr. He’s the grown ass adult who’s at blame, not us. Now, if you were continuing to defend him, it would be one thing. However, we grew up and realized that what he did wasn’t ok. When the first racism scandal came out, I didn’t excuse his behavior in the slightest. However, I decided to give him another chance because he seemed like he changed. Then come to find out that was just the tip of the iceberg. It’s so sick to me how so many of us were dare I say… manipulated? He knew how to play the game. It still makes my stomach turn knowing that as a kid, I used to laugh at his pedophilic “humor” because I (like so many others) thought it was normal. I forgot about the comments he made towards his fans and Willow Smith. When I saw the videos again, the only thing I could think of was “Dear God, if so many kids thought this behavior was normal, imagine how many kids were tricked into dangerous situations.” Then I saw the video of him kissing an underage fan… I was even more disgusted. I know it’s not my fault because I was a young teenager, but I still feel so guilty for actually giving this man money to pay his bills every time I watched a video.
@@kyleesmith9874 Same. I do that with celebrities too just to make sure. People call me a “sensitive Liberal snowflake” for it but I don’t care. Excuse me for trying to be a decent human being. In another world where Shane actually changed and meant his apologies (and didn’t prey on his fans) I probably would have given him the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, that’s not the way it went down.
It's okay sweet heart, we're all learning and sometimes when you're young you don't really notice things like that and how they can be so problematic. I used to be a fan of him too and i can definitely relate
I just can never believe I watched his videos. For some reason I never see anybody talking about the videos of him kissing underage fans or spitting chewing gum in their mouths at his meet and greets. On top of all the other horrible and disgusting things he has done the grooming and weird interactions with children I can never support him again.
I remember people talking about that. It’s definitely so gross how he did that shit. Definitely important to remember.
right who gives af about the jokes when he thought it was okay to do that. THATS the issue.
It only became a problem when he befriended Jeffree Star. It’s about jealousy. Before that, honestly people didn’t care at all. It’s easy to throw rocks on Shane, but people (his audience) must be held accountable as part of the problem either. You blame Shane, but he never forced you to watch his old videos. For me, Shane is the one I knew when he did Jeffree’s docuseries and the palettes. I won’t dig up whatever he did before that, ten years ago or more. That’s sick and people should leave past in the past, since he doesn’t want it anymore.
Shane's attempt at taking accountability grinds my gears extra hard because I always remember that Jenna Marbles completely left and took it seriously even though what she did was only a fraction of what Shame did
"I'm an empath and I have trauma, so let say the "n" word and talk inappropriately about my cat. Remember, I have _trauma_ so you can't be mad at me." - Shane, probably.
I have PTSD, I understand that trauma can miss with someone. It can affect their sense of humour as a coping mechanism, it can cause hypersexuality or asexuality. (Not saying that everyone asexual has PTSD, juts saying it _can_ be a result.) Trauma can make you lash out at the people you love and strangers.
_But_ guess what, Shane??? *You* are still in control of *your* words and *your* actions. Trauma does not excuse anything, even if it does explain it. There's a difference, and that's accountability.
I started watching Shane around 2015, probably at the worst of my anxiety and depression- and that was why he resonated with me, the self-deprecation and talks about his mental health. For being on youtube since maybe 2012, I knew that he was one of the originals, but I never looked or watched his videos cause yeah it was dark and not for me. Not that the content that I was subscribed to was great or clean by any means, but I think because of where I was mentally I was okay with it? Since I've been stable for almost 3 years, there is that soft spot where I do feel for him when it comes to his trauma and whatever, but at the same time, we as humans can only use that as an excuse for so long.
Like I am not saying that poeple can't use that as an excuse, cause I only know my experience, but I was very anxious and depressed because of my own doing and how I felt towards myself for a point in time. Shane obviously has a dark history and trauma, and yeah that's sad, BUT he made this racist, bigoted, homophobic, antisemitic, etc content for YEARS, and only brought it up when he was "cancelled"...I still hate that term cause when people are being held accountable, they use the term cancelled and it's like "oh the internet hates me agina" like no, you are in an era where people want to know who they are taking their time to watch and listen to.
Hey Queen! I hope your anxiety and depression is much lower now. Sending you so much love and encouragement.
shane filtered himself so much in this interview. multiple times he stops himself from saying what he wanted to say.
It’s so weird seeing Shane again. When I was younger (middle school) I used to watch Shane when his humor was racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. and I thought some of it was funny. I knew some of it was wrong, but I thought edgy humor was just that, humor. However, I’ve learned and grown since then but I have to remember that I was and am part of the problem. I continued to watch him when he grew into the 20 million views per video Shane and kind of forgot about those videos he used to create. When it all came back into the light, i had to take a long hard look into the mirror and unpack what it means to take accountability. Cancel culture is a fascinating thing and wonderful but also horrifying. I’m still not sure how I feel about him being cancelled.
meee TOOOOOO.
when i rewatched the videos that resurfaced that i watched when i was younger i was cringing so hard like how did i ever find this funny 😭😬
You shouldn’t have mixed feelings about a child predator being called out for their abuse 🥴
@@scipiodriver4076 It's not mixed feelings about him being called out and being held accountable, it's mixed feelings of my part in the problem and realizing there are many people just like me who watched his videos back then and supported him. He wouldn't have gotten to where he was without a following and though shane has done a lot of wrong, he is also a symptom of a much larger problem, not the sole cause. Does that make sense?
@@desireedriver6390 for me, i think it was ignorance and also thinking the edginess and shock factor was somehow 'cool'? idk, it's definitely cringe to look back at now, but there definitely was a time that I thought shananay was the funniest thing i've ever seen.
I’m so glad you watched it so I didn’t have to! I don’t feel sorry for Shane at all. Poor Shane living in LA and having financial issues. Give. Me. A. Break. How does he not have money from before all of this happened?! He’s such a joke. If I were him I would have just left the internet alone. I will never have respect for this guy.
Are you jealous because Shane has a friend like Jeffree who made him rich? Oh, poor of you!
Wait, the airport worker called you out for wearing pajamas...at the airport....? that's like one of the few places where it's socially acceptable to wear pajamas, I thought.
literally 😭😭 but they weren’t being nasty don’t worry
Idk I can't bring myself back to liking him or giving him another chance. A leopard never changes their spots. I've learned that lesson in with people in my life. Shane's manipulative behavior reminds me of a lot of them, ones I've had to cut out of my life. Just don't trust him. Am I wrong? Childhood trauma doesn't excuse p*do and racist jokes. Many of us have gone through such horrific things as kids and we don't do the things Shane did. I just feel like he's bullsh*tting us yet again. He doesn't seem sincere and tbh it's not my fault that I feel that way due to his apology after apology after apology that were all fake and forced. Sorry
@@secret_senshi everyone expierences n deal with traumas in different ways and like being poor n having dysfunctional can really mess u up in future n is trauma but I don’t know Shane but u said everyone experiences trauma this is just an add on to that. Also trauma can do a lot when u go untreated look at dahmer……. Just be lucky he is treatment w those kinds of thought n shi in his past 💀
He wants forgiveness so bad but he keeps digging himself into a deeper hole with every apology video🤦♀️
That yellow looks fantastic on you!
Every time I watch these videos it feels like I’m sitting on my bed gossiping with my little brother🥹 also giving the Heathers vibe and I’m all for it!
captions would be helpful. I have an almost one year old and with your contagious energy, she'd rather watch then go to bed! 😂😫 as always, great content (I'm sure, since I'm rocking the baby and only catch bits and pieces) been curious about how others will approach this.
love from KY, USA. ❤️
love to you kimi and they should be coming on within the first hour let me look into it❤️
@@AdamMcIntyre thank you, love!
Thank You❤️❤️ I wanted to bring up this topic but I wasn't sure how to start! I am hard on hearing and sometimes I need to replay some bits and I am sure that for People like me or even learning English it would be a life saver💜
I have to say for 10 to 15 years his content was not offending or pissing anybody off. It's true today is a very very different time. Shit he did back then will never fly today, hence the cancelation. But when he was making that awful disgusting content, everyone was EATING IT UP because that's just what the climate of the internet was at the time. Tgats why so many creators have SOMETHING from the same time period creep up on them now in this new era of political correctness. It was never just Shane. He just was obsessed with getting content out and pushing the limit, so each day a new disgusting old tweet or video or clip would come out. I just wanted to point out that sure, maybe a few people watched in horror as Shane did black face or made inappropriate asf jokes, but majority of his fans at that time, at their age (young) gobbled that shit up because they idolized him.
That’s very true
Definitely a different time. I listened to Howard Stern a long time ago-Shane seemed like cream filled doughnut compared to him.
Child abuse wasn’t even LEGAL, let alone socially acceptable at the time it happened. Maybe YOU weren’t pissed off by it, but those of us with a conscience ABSOLUTELY were disgusted and called out his abuse as it was happening. Stop this pedo normalization bullshit
It's weird to see shane again,, after what he did I feel weird seeing him again but the video you made about him was great and I hope to see more videos from u🙂
Yea. I remember when he was cancelled for the whole cat thing and the whole willow Smith thing, someone from my old high school who I haven't talked to in years messaged me saying shave Dawson was getting cancelled, that he's a pervert and I was trash for watching him. And I'm like honey I was a teenager and I haven't watched him for years.
Wow, this person is so petty.
Ya know, at about 22:22, I was like I kinda get where Shane was coming from about that singular point, but then I thought about it and he's acting like he doesn't understand what the grand public was possibly asking of him, and that's why it was getting to be so much and so overwhelming, but like we were there. A lot of people mainly just wanted him to address everything and fucking apologize and own up to his shitty behavior. It was basic responsibility. Do that and then maybe people would have believed you'd matured in the past 10 years. But he didn't. And that's why the situation kept getting more intense. He released his video that didn't address more than half the shit in his past and that just made people more mad because he was still dodging accountability while also discarding his previous apology videos.
Totally agree with you
Idk unpopular opinion but I feel like Shane is taking the fall for a lot of creators who were exactly like him back then. A lot of people cancelling him are people who used to watch and condone all his videos. It really was like 15 years ago and he should have addressed it and deleted the videos a long time ago but I feel like it was jokes idk poor jokes but that’s how they were at the time. Not an excuse but to be completely cancelled for something a lot of people were doing at the time? Idk seems a bit extreme
It wasn't something that everyone was doing at all
What other creators abused kids? Made kids send CP to them? No one is saying it’s impossible to call out more than one criminal at a time babe, that’s just you projecting. If you have info on another criminal then you have a moral obligation to call them out
Ooof. Where to even start? I will begin by saying I still strongly believe Shane does not deserve to have a platform at all. I obviously wish him the best of luck in his personal life, and I don't want him feeling the need to take his own life, and I feel like finally leaving the internet for good would be a good way of atoning AND better for his overall mental health. Let's not forget he probably still has enough money to basically retire and live comfortably for a long time. It is time to finally step aside and let new creators be at the forefront.
I'll say that this podcast seems like a step in the right direction, but too little, WAY TOO late 😑 . And what bothers me is that despite the fact that he says he is glad he was cancelled, he did SO much to cover things up by deleting hundreds of videos off his channels and basically scrubbing his entire old podcast off the internet. And why is he only speaking about this on someone else's platform instead of bringing it up on his own new podcast or as a topic for his own video 🤔 ? Obviously he is afraid to call too much attention to his own actions because that will only lead to ANOTHER cancellation 🙄 ...
I could go on and on, but Shane needs to move on already. I believe he does deserve a happy and fulfilling life, but he doesn't need TH-cam or the internet for that.
Shane needs to go to prison for his crimes against children
@@scipiodriver4076 Police said there’s no reason to arrest him. So chill and grow up yourself.
@@carolferreira705 no they didn’t, stop spewing Kennnedy Sanders bullshit that even he admitted he made up. You are so embarrassing
He really thought (and probably still thinks) the best way to start friendships & relationships is by being mean and shit talking someone?? And then he has the audacity to be like "why do I have no friends?🥺"...Dude is a walking red flag lol
This is a huge thing in Chicago. People actually get friends like this AND get praised for it.. give it a year or two and those besties are separated because one overshadowed the other / or grew tired of the toxicity..
Ahhh just intime for bedtime 😂 I’ll watch this then bed.
i hope you have a beautiful sleep ❤️
@@AdamMcIntyre That's so wholesome 🥺 ahh
OmG sameeeeeee 😁
@@AdamMcIntyre thank you lovely 🥲 this pregnancy is kicking my butt and today was extremely rough
@@Chelseachrystal2013 i had a rough pregnancy too, sending you all the love and strength, i promise you that youre doing amazing
28 y.o.
Started watching him at the VERY beginning. When I was maybe 15??? I don’t remember exactly lol.
But man I’m proud of him, I was a SCUMBAG in my early 20’s I couldn’t imagine going through it in front of the internet…. I will be 29 soon and am JUST getting it together. You guys need to remember, we are ALL gonna mess up immensely… we’re gonna hurt people along our paths (it’s a given-and if you think you’re better then that- ummmm LOL We can all learn from each other and our own experience
We all mess up but we don’t all abuse countless kids for over TWO YEARS. Shane literally told us in this interview that he doesn’t want to change. You are delusional if you think he’s learned anything
@@scipiodriver4076 what kids did he abuse? I don’t think anyone has came out… have they? And when did he say he didn’t want to change? I never saw or heard that either…. You can dislike him. Not everyone is going to
@@letihanson5954 shane abused kids on Daily Booth, look it up this isn’t hidden or anything. And Shane straight up said he doesn’t care what people think of his child abuse, do you REALLY not see how that’s him saying he doesn’t want to change? Come on now. You should do more research into the people you support before you have another embarrassing incident like this
Shane is a hot mess in this interview. Can’t even complete sentences because of how careful he is to explain himself. Giving reasons without explaining and moving on. Yikes
“I bet it has the best smells” OMG STOP- 😭😭 I can’t stop laughing 💀
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
I don’t think the humor has changed over the years that much. The biggest change is the age of his audience. We were children watching his videos and didn’t realize how gross his jokes were. We grew up and realized it was wrong
I think regardless of what he says or does, I would never be able to trust him again and not feel wrong watching his content. I can't fully trust that he isn't just telling people what they wanna hear because he can't afford his lavish lifestyle anymore. Plus, when Garrett was showing up less in his videos I think I realized Garrett was what made me fall in love with Shane's videos in the beginning :/
Edit: Plus it still bothers me that I have yet to hear him acknowledge at ALL any of the predatory behavior such as asking his teenage fans to do weird things on livestream and even in person when he was like 25ish.
The way he seemed to say that so many people/communities were hurt by what he said and it seemed like a new one ever day, so because there were so many he didn't address anyone???? Like there's so much fire in this house that I can't start spraying water on any of it??? Like that may be what he was feeling at the time, but that's so gross.
As someone who was growing up on the internet back when the humor Shane is referring to was "funny". One thing I don't see people talk about tho is big channels like SMOSH legit made the same kind of jokes and those guys are still around too. Thinking back on that time, I didn't understand the context of the jokes and their harm, but I genuinely as a middle schooler was laughing and watching those videos at the time because it's what friends told me to watch or it's what was popular. I was willingly and eagerly taking in that entertainment at the time. Thinking back I do not think it's funny now at all and I see how wrong the jokes were now but was to young to know context at the time as a LITERAL CHILD.
I will admit, tho channels like Shane and smosh had me thinking taboo stuff = peak humor. Because during early internet that's legit how people acted was like humor was 90% shock factor. It was like a competition to who could say the most fucked up shit even arbitrarily. Makes you think about how much that influences kids. (This was also around the same time that boys in school would joke about playing the fire truck game on your leg... look it up if you don't know) 😬
THIS. I almost never see people say what you’ve said, even tho you’re 100% right. I also grew up watching Shane, my friends told me to watch him and I 100% feel like all of us kids were groomed. Taught to think of horrible issues like r*pe and p***philia as jokes. It distanced me from the actual topics I was joking about, topics I didn’t even fully understand, because the only time I ever heard about these hard issues was when TH-camrs or me and my friends made fun of them. I hate how these commentary channels never really fully empathize with the young viewers who were subjected to this content. I’ve spent years and years unlearning and relearning so much, and while I don’t need any validation for that, I would prefer a more objective viewpoint when these commenters talk about Shane’s viewers.
@@autumnwhitman3960 yeah like legit smosh was the most subbed to channel at one point and they made all that "dark humor" aka inappropriate trend shit
Smosh never made kids send them illegal pics like shane did. Stop trying to normalize his abuse, the fact is not everyone back then was preying on kids an it’s disgusting to insinuate otherwise
@@scipiodriver4076 they regularly made pedo an rape jokes.or did you just completely black that out
@@scipiodriver4076 yeah you missed the fuckin point bruh
what pisses me off is when they say they don't have a bunch of money.. bullshit! in EVERY episode of rylands he's spending a butt ton of money buying such useless things and brand name ugly shoes etc.. so many ppl starving and homeless and they are buying all this crap acting so self entitled.. very sad.
I came from H3 and have become a fan of you 🥲 appreciate your work and company also! Enjoy your day 😁
it’s shocking to me that anyone would want shane dawson of all people as a guest on their podcast 😭 ur sweater is so cute btw
I dont like Shane. I don't support him. BUT I feel that THIS is the most SHOWN growth we've seen from him. It's honest. It's taking responsibility. It's NOT making a joke of his cancelation. It's actual visible growth for the first time since all that took place. So good for him. That's all we can hope and pray for. Is his actual growth from the past.
What are you smoking? He straight up said in this interview that good came out of his crimes and he doesn’t care what people think of his crimes or him not taking accountability. *That’s him publicly bragging about not wanting to change.* I don’t understand how anyone could be delusional enough to think that is somehow a sign of growth
@@scipiodriver4076 probably should have finished the video and fully watched the interview before commenting lol oopsie! 😂
So tired of Shane looking for sympathy.
I’m happy he’s taking ownership of what he did and I hope he’s doing okay because I don’t believe he is bad person I genuinely he believe he’s a good person. Just BAD jokes
I'm not even trying to argue with you but did you watch that "behind the chair" show? his personality was shown in that show and he did not seem like a good person. he seemed very self centered, he called the actors who didn't wanna say offense stuff "losers" essentially, that they shouldn be glad they are getting hired for any work at all etc. he didn't wanna hear any feedback about why his movie needed some work or revisions... it wasn't a good look. I'm pretty sure it was called behind the chair, or maybe the directors chair... it was a show produced by Zachary Quinto (he was also kinda the host of the show and he really didn't like Shane).
@@Throatzillaaa I have lol your all good it’s okay to have different opinions and respect each other :) alright that was like 10 year ago and and he was a shitty person and he should have gotten checked for it and he did (he got “canceled”) then but he’s different now. From when I watch he seems pretty careful with what he says lol and does and I believe he has a different take out of life and he goes to therapy so He’s trying atleast Ik people who has mental problems and doesn’t get help( just an example) He was also younger then though I’m sure his brain has changed especially from when he was 20-30. And with all those cancellations I’m sure he was in a very dark place. Imagine everything you worked for and all your friends turn your back on you and the whole world knows like that has to do something to ya 😂 For what I see I do watch a lot of drama channels and I used to watch him a lot not anymore because I’m just not interested. In less Adam posts about him(I watch Ethan now lol) anyways…People change and everyone says mean shit to some extent idk I feel like he has got his karma for his past. I’m not saying we forget about it. We clearly don’t wanna have him repeat the negative things/ actions he did. It good to Hold him accountable. It good to give credit when credit is do.
Although I mostly agree and I’m not trying to argue but rather point something out is that,
one thing that sticks with me is the fact he used to be very inappropriate to minors and even gave his chewed up gum from his mouth to a minors mouth when he was in his 20s or the ‘joke’ he made about willing to do wills smith kid when she was like 9 years old or when he would tell underage girls to twerk online when chatting with them etc will always stick with me. I can understand the other shit thing he did but those will always make me question him because I don’t know why he thought it was okay to do or say back then. Yes it was a different time period back then but it’s still just… so questionable.
But he is going to therapy now so maybe he’s learning and growing and won’t be gross like that again. I don’t know but I just hope he’s not like that anymore, but what I’m worried about it is that he could still be like that off camera and we wouldn’t know. Like hides it or something? But I am glad he’s taking ownership of what he’s mainly said and did.
But Personally I don’t think he’s the worst person out there. Definitely not the best but not the worst either.
Shane actually abused kids on daily booth babe, do some research before you blindly defend another monster
And Shane didn’t take ownership over his crimes, did you even watch the interview? I swear I feel like some of you didn’t and are just blindly defending this creep
Not the double knee proposal 😂
Love your Jammie pants. Really thought they were pants and not Jammies.
he is richer than most of us why does he act like he is homeless..
He said he was being nice to everyone in his every day life...but if you look at the way he treated his assistant/Zachary Quinto while he was filming that horrible movie(as one example), you can see that's not true either. Also, as much as I don't like TP, it takes a very specific sort of person to pretend to be great friends with someone to their face and then bad mouth them constantly behind their back to anyone who will listen; even if you are speaking truthfully about the person to others...stop being phony to their face...it's weird and it also encourages their shitty behaviour.
The only thing I agree with him on is the side eye when people say “I’ve been watching you since I was a kid and I’m soooo disappointed to hear you did all this!” Like what? You watched all that too then lol. As someone who didn’t learn about him until his docu-series phase I don’t understand how anyone could be a long term fan of his!
Will he ever stop talking about his cancellation? I’ve never watched a video of his and I’ve heard about his cancellation for years now. I’m so over it.
His child victims wish they had that privilege, stop being so fucking selfish
Oh poor Shane are you broke? Come see my family and how we have to live. I starve so my kids can eat some days. Don't tell me what broke is. You make me sick.
Love this top on you! You look amazing! As for Shane, he really just needs to go and live life elsewhere. I think he's still living for clicks and views rather than being authentic.
Ngl this is just some top tier manipulation, he’s just carefully finessing his way back into positive light. I’ve been around for so many of these cycles now, they’re all the same. People get into trouble and then manipulate their way back into the publics favor, but their true colors will shine again. For example, Trisha and J*. I’m determined not to fall for it again. I am so done with being let down and made to feel like a fool for believing them when they have their small redemption arch
I don’t understand how so many people can be delusional enough to think shane even WANTS to change, much less is actually trying to change. *He literally told us he doesn’t want to change in this interview by insisting good came out of his child abuse and that he doesn’t care what people think about him not taking accountability for that crime.
I don't feel bad for Shane and I don't think he deserves any praise. Imo he is basically STILL just crying that his very bad jokes (that he doubled down on defending for so long) had finally come to bite him in the ass.
He said horrible things about women, Jewish people, people of color, children, animals, ect because of... Trauma...?
I know we all go through trauma differently, but there comes to a point where you know you are hurting others, and you need to break the cycle. You can have trauma and still be a bad person, just because you went through hardships doesn't mean those hardships made you a good person.
Shane is Bi(last time I heard he came out as bi so sorry if that's no longer true. I know people can further develop their preferences as they learn about themselves) so I can understand how maybe he was struggling with that and made some uncouth jokes about sexuality, but you'd think if he really felt bad about perpetuating these bad stereotypes about the people he was making jokes about he would talk about it more, not be quiet to save his own ass/money. It's a great talking point on how minorities can still discriminate against their own community because they are stressed about fitting in with rich, straight, cis, white, men. (Think when Blair White knowingly and blatantly lied about Janae Kroc to fit her narrative of "Trans people bad, but I'm not like other trans girls 🤪".) It's June and a good time to talk about that sort of thing! But he wants to talk about how he was sad that is very hurtful jokes made people hate him...
Did he say those hurtful things because he got views and those views got him money, or did he say them to cope with trauma? And is he apologizing now because it might get him more money, or is he doing it because he feels bad and wants to fix the harm he has caused? And is he being so nondescript because it's all bs to get more money, or is he doing it because it's still too sensitive to talk about on video? I don't really think he said much more now than he has been. The only new thing is that he finally admitted that there are not 2 Shane's, the good Shane that he is now and one that's bad from forever ago; there is one Shane and that Shane mad lots of fuckie wuckies. Fuckie wuckies that I believe he COULD atone for if he wanted to.
I won't believe Shane is a good person until he continually does the right thing for an extended period of time. I know it isn't fair, but the more mistakes you make, the harder it is for people to believe or trust you. That's just life unfortunately. It's how people keep themselves safe from other people who might not have their best interest in mind.
Also weird he didn't mention him chatting sexually on Omegle with his underage fans... Or was that lumped in with 'its just a joke', and we shouldn't take it too seriously?
How can he explain hello milly channel ??????
Up to this point, I can only watch your videos covering all the drama
He said that Ryland helped saved his life but he still won’t marry him…..
I really appreciate the heads up before starting to fast forward!!! I watch everything 1.5-1.75
I enjoyed the podcast a lot to be honest! It definitely made me think about the morals of cancel culture. Putting myself in his shoes, I don’t know what I would do if that many people were upset with me at once. I’ve never been one to jump in and say mean things but I’m guilty of watching from the sidelines :(
After breaking up with someone that I really loved and cared about for mental health reasons ,, I needed this so thank u lol
sending you so much love *hugs*
@@AdamMcIntyre 💕💕the best
It was more real than him trying to explain it before but definitely skipped over JS, Tati, James Charles, and the humble pie 🤷🏼♀️
And the pedophilia
Yeah but that’s an awfully low bar
adam i absolutely love ur takes and ur so great with how u deliver them. ur videos are always the best!! love ur sweater too btw💖
Hearing Shane Dawson say that he was always a nice person is just so weird having watched his behavior in the behind the scenes of that blindingly awful movie he created😬
Yeaahhhh
I unfollowed Dawson almost 2 years ago after the controversies arose
I’ve been watching your videos for about a year now, thank you for making videos. I’ve lost nearly all my family members in the last 6 months and you have always made me feel less alone. Thank you for being a friend 💖
I used to watch shane, I watched the sketches from back in the day and watched his new stuff up to the makeup launch. So I’m not a proper fan but liked some of his stuff. Now I can’t speak on the kid/homophobic jokes but as for the racist stuff I feel like there is only so much we can say. As far as we are aware he doesn’t make them anymore. And at this point I feel like if you don’t want to watch his stuff that’s okay but I also know that it’s really hard to grow when you’re constantly being beat down.
I’m not trying to stick up for him but I know I’ve been a horrible person at times in my life but I changed and proved that change by not hurting others. As a human I think he deserves a chance to change.
He may be worthy of change, but we won’t know that till we see it. Should he come back? I think that’s an individual decision on wether you choose to watch him or not.
Great video Adam
Also he told gabi hanq trishq has herpies when they were still friends and the whole tati situation . Awfull .
I love your top mucker! You look great
this is so sweet thank you
I’m a bit over halfway through your video and I’m annoyed that he didn’t mention the Insta live about Tati. *That* got him into even hotter water.
"And the best smells.😬"
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I love you so much Adam 🥰 I agree with everything you said about Shane in this video, and just always enjoy watching your videos ❤️❤️❤️
are we not gonna get an explanation for that live tho?? or the james stuff? nothing is clear still
Shane Dawson is not a good person. When I was younger I used to watch is controversial content obviously being naive and young I could comprehend what was wrong with it but as I grew up I grew to not like him even more just because him as a person was just v weird and odd to me.
And then seeing all of the old content come out the woodwork which I vaguely remembered watching as a kid, it was not surprising see what was being revealed because he was always odd to me and you’re right about them his controversial content bought him his whole career basically end that can’t really be forgiven and he’s going to live with that and those actions surrounding his name for the rest of his life. And it’s funny when you say that him making it an excuse that “he was young” or “it was a different audience at the time” not being a valid excuse because whatever excuse his saying, he was a grown person grown enough to make his own decisions he knew what he was doing.
He was at least 18+ making this content it was his personality. he had no idea of the implications and the consequences of everything he did and that’s a disaster he made for himself and it will affect him in his career for a very very long time😬
shane dawson drama videos from adam hit like no other
also love this sweater on you adam! very handsome!
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Most of his career was built on racist content, “jokes” about mental issues/handicapped people, “jokes”about sexual assault, “jokes” about children, etc. When I was 12 to 14 from 2008 to 2010, I thought some of his jokes were normal to make (I was not aware of the blackface content at the time but I knew who Shanaynay was and I remember not being critical of his jokes mimicking Helen Keller). There is so much content that he influenced on children’s humor and when another TH-camr who I watched, chescaleigh called him out for his racist content around 2014, he bullied her with Trisha and kept making the racist content. I genuinely hope that he is actually improving for the better now but after he repeatedly bullied chescaleigh, I stopped supporting him back then and even more so now that the stuff came out about the pet jokes and his jokes with minors.
I'm surprised he didn't get more hate back in the day.. 🤔 If he was suicidal I feel bad for him. How do u deal with that? More importantly, how does a therapist even give u the tools to come back from that? It's definitely interesting
I don’t think he’s actually suicidal though. If he is then I really hope he gets the help he needs, but Shane has done this his entire career. Whenever he starts to get the tiniest bit of criticism he tries to deflect by talking about suicide. It’s a classic manipulation tactic
Not defending him at all but I do sympathize. He spent 10-15 years making the same jokes and people watched and enjoyed it. I think its interesting to see how people get soo consumed by the internet feedback. To feel that love and validation for so long snd it all turn on a dime has got to throw your head through a loop
Do you not know Shane abused kids too? That shit was never even LEGAL, let alone acceptable. Kids being too young to know any better is no excuse for a grown man preying on them for over a decade
i hate the fact that i’ve literally grown up watching him & had to unlearn so many things that he taught me on youtube cause i was so young i had no idea it was wrong & i thought it was so crazy that it was funny. then again, i was literally 9-10 years old when i first discovered him on youtube (in the early early sketch days, within the first year or two of him making content). I forgot about so many things he would upload and started watching him again when he made content with his gf at the time, Lisa. half of the jokes he made went over my head bc i was still so young. I watched him all the way up until i was around 16 because that’s all i really knew & i loved when he made those huge cakes out of random weird foods. I stopped watching him for a while again until he started conspiracy theory videos & “documentaries”. When he got cancelled and everything was brought to light, being more educated now & understanding the things he did. it really just breaks my heart for my young self because i wish i could’ve known better & been more protected over these things i was seeing on the internet. I’ve grown a lot but i used to just not understand the way things worked & what wasn’t okay. I’m happy that this “cancel culture” is a huge thing now for the future generations & their way of navigating the internet. being able to know who is safe for your children to watch & what shows are good for them is extremely important. i’ve been absolutely traumatized by some things i’ve seen on the internet because my parents had no idea how to control it. Sorry for the rant bestie 😩😩😩
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I hope truly offensive comedy makes a comeback. What a lot of stink over nothing.
I wouldn’t call child SA nothing, but, then again, I actually have a conscience. Abusing kids isn’t comedy, you are sick in the head if you find that shit comedic
Interesting watching this today. Rylands family was flying in for the engagement. This makes me think Shane pre-planned it and him proposing doesn’t have anything to do with the cat drama 😮
I almost wonder if he made the apology video specifically to draw people to his channel. As he said people would wonder WHY he's apologizing. That would have generated traffic to his content and money $$. I'd be curious about what his analytics looked like back then. Around the time he posted the apology vid. I bet he was getting crickets.. loaing fundsss so he went for it.
I know he literally says that is why his, "friends", DIDN'T want him to do a video... However..I believe he said that to try and make others believe what he is apologizing for isn't that bad.. again generating people who don't know him or why he's apologizing to his content.
I think his friends are probably his own soul. I hear him. I don't believe him. I feel he is an opportunist. Imo: He is taking this podcast as an opportunity to try and flip the narrative to a new audience.
He is actively telling us the content he created was because it was "oKaY bAcK tHeN". But then says he doesn't know why he created it.. It generated views and money. And I think he loved it. He joined the beauty community because he saw Jeffrey's lifestyle/ the OPPORTUNITY to create it for himself...
When it comes to Shane I believe this is business. His moral compass is broken. And it is what it is for him. I am happy he sort of spoke out. But it has taken him a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if he strategically waited until now. Gathering his viewers thoughts/hopes for him to find out how to address this. He likely collected answers on how to approqch this feom then until now and is doing what everyonesaid they hoped he would do. He made a like what not to do checklist I imagine. Then he could mirror what people had hoped of him. 🕯🤍
Proposed in March but apologized in June. Things died down I bet? I don't remember now. It seems SO long ago!
He didn't address kissing that fan that was a minor. I think he asked her to or smth.
That's BEYOND truama fueled jokss
Not even into the video yet but that sweater on you is lush the colour is not for me but it suits you so well hey mucker ❤️
I think financially they should keep both houses and rent out the one they don’t want to stay in.
Extremely petty, but is he ever going to change his hairstyle?
next time u have an adam and eve on a shane video. say
"why settle for the cat? when you can try
ADAM AND EVE!"
im going to hell for that, i know
Trauma doesn't excuse behavior. You cannot expect that, upon repeatedly hurting someone/displaying poor behavior, people will stick around when they realize you don't learn. I think lots of people have done things in their past they regret; even if they aren't to the level of Shane, we all have to take responsibility. We may have learned and made better, more educated choices now, but that's on us to do. Shane cannot repeatedly make mistakes, blame trauma, and expect people to come back if he refuses to actually address the problem within himself. I think he's a manipulator.
idk im on shanes side. Its his past, people have had even worse pasts than him. His is just in the public where people can judge more
Do you not understand that child abuse is a felony? The fact that other criminals exist doesn’t give Shane a free pass on his crimes. Tf is wrong with you? How can you be so heartless towards child victims of SA?
I started watching Shane Dawson in 2009. I didn’t watch all his videos, but had some of his videos I would rewatch over and over again (not the ones he got cancelled for). Watching him since I was 12/13 years old, I may be a little bias because part of me will always have a soft spot for him.. I was so heart broken when I saw the things he has said and done while he was getting cancelled. I couldn’t believe it. Im happy he is finally talking about it. I sympathize that he felt so depressed. But I’m glad he can see that he needs to accept that some people will never forgive him, and rightfully so. He will always have backlash for the things that he did, and he did that to himself. All he can do is push to do better, acknowledge all his mistakes, and accept that people don’t have to forgive or like him after what he has done.
Spoiling us with a 30 minute video! ☺️
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Yess Adam I love this sweater! ❤
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Yeah, “so traumatic for him and the interviewer”…He should consider the content he made stereotyping/belittling peoples race?? I’m sure those people weren’t traumatized/affected by his hateful ignorant racism!!
I have no idea who Shane is lol but Adam's voice is relaxing.
Thank you for opening my eyes and making me less ignorant😁😁😁
It's werid how things were diff back then -i lived it doesn't work nowadays, vise versa, for many reasons. So with CERTAIN things how can we be judge for those things. Other things I do get. But with everything...idk
He spent 10-15 yrs hurting ppl and emboldening bullies to hurt those groups too to the point where those groups wanted to off themselves. So I don’t feel bad at all that now it’s coming back and he gets a taste of what it’s like to be suicidal bc everyone hates u. He perpetrated that on others
Been having the worst anxiety of my life and I just said to myself please let my Mucker have uploaded ❤️ .. sometimes TH-camrs don’t know how much they do for people who struggle, having someone talking just makes me feel less alone.
I don't think he can be genuinly honest. I feel he's so wrapped in self loathing and self pity and urge to appeal to literally everyone, that he doesn't fully exist as a personality