And didn't it rain last week too? After Hillary? My son lives in Reno and he said they were getting rain. It's almost like they forgot to check the weather😮 Mud sucks on a lake bed 😅😅😅
This is GOOD. THIS IS ALWAYS A RISK there. Black Rock Desert has a very special surface with a unique chemistry. The veterans are staying put and partying their ass off IN PLACE. It always dries out eventually. Nature is teaching a whole lot of people some important life lessons. I've been there for some really extreme weather. I love that desert more than you can ever understand.
Amen. Do what BLM or BMOrg suggests/requests and you're sitting pretty. Take in your neighbors if you have an RV. Read the Survival Guide BEFORE you make your preparations. It'll save you a world of hurt later. Back in 2015 when it was horrid during the days and literally freezing at night, I was sitting pretty because I brought not just warm weather clothing and such but winter gear complete with parka, gloves, wool hat, and cocoa. Be Prepared. LOL
Its unfortunate its not some sort of event with a core principle of preparedness and radical self reliance (and leaving no trace) - oh wait........ ooops. Guess those principles didnt actually mean much
Always know when it's time to quit and come back another day; anyone who has been to the Mojave knows that a half inch of rain creates a biblical flood. Great video.
Trent, thanks for the Recce flight. I was down there, looking up. Wish I'd known you were flying by. Very good coverage of the issue. The ONLY problem was travel, but some people freaked out anyway. It wasn't cold. It wasn't dangerous. We weren't being stalked by wolves. Even if you ran out of food or water, your neighbor had extra. It was just a desert camping trip that decided to get rainy. That is NOT an existential crisis. The guidance from BMIR, Burning Man Information Radio, was crystal clear: DO NOT TRAVEL. Nobody was going to chase you if you chose to try an escape against advice, but as your video shows, the advice was right and a significant portion of the people who ignored the message ended up stuck. It was my fifth Burn and it was fine. A bit less flash and glitter than other years, but more neighbor to neighbor time and a sense of pulling together. Contractor Strength garbage bags make fine mud shoes. Last year it was hot and windy and dusty. Someone wished for a Burn without Dust. We got it. Read the Survival Guide and think about the 10 Principles, prospective Burners. Maybe dump the Sparkle Pony costume, and bring a bit more food and water and a sturdy shelter. See you next year.
We stayed put and got to spend so much more time getting to know our fellow campers (we were a camp of 70+ people located on esplanade) than in previous years. We got to see the burn with a couple of night's delay in a more intimate setting than I ever expected to experience. Was also my fifth, though I have been burning for more than 15 years, mostly attending regionals every year, as the trek west is a long one for us. All in all, a trying experience more than usual, but not at all anything dangerous, as long as you weren't stupid and stayed put. We left Wednesday on a no-wait dry gate road....so dry, in fact, that they were running water trucks down it to keep the dust down, ironically enough. I am personally laughing at all the armchair quarterbacks commenting on something they have zero experience with...though this IS the internet. Thank you for helping dispel the mountain of misinfo that is pouring out of the media. People who were there the whole time need to set the record straight. Thanks for doing your part in this.
Truly it is written; An adventure is something you realize you have had, when you return to the place you swore never to leave again while you were having it!
@@edchester1773 Your statement implies you were there. So which account did you take this from as it’s not accredited or quoted? I need to see it please, would you provide a link? Have you seen anyone from inside post anything in the last 10 hours? It’s midday in Nevada and I haven’t seen anyone posting new content or proof of life?
I was there and got to Reno a couple hours ago. It was bad, yes, but not as bad as it looked from the air and not nearly as bad as the news stories made it sound. I think the general public doesn't realize most burners are over-prepared to the point we have extra supplies to help the few that don't. No one in my camp was sleeping in a puddle, and none of us have RVs. The anxiety of being stuck was much worse than the actual conditions. But cool to see the view from the air, thanks!
The words, Self Inflicted Wound, keeps coming to mind. They talk about taking everything out that you bring in in order to preserve the playa, I'm wondering how much damage they have done in just these few days by driving all over it while it's wet. It's amazing the things we can rationalize and justify in our own minds in the name of a good time. They were getting rain right before the damn thing started.
It's all rich kids going to Burning Man - the cost to go has increased since the creation. It's now Coachella for Rich Hipsters. It started as a bohemian free expression of art, music and life, but now it's just some instagram content for TH-camrs and rich kids bored with daddy's money.
@@ricktyman4709 Meh not sure how true this is... given the amount of resentment vibes you got going on there there. lol. But i do know that even rich kids trying to have fun don't deserve to starve to death in a soggy desert.
The more remarkable thing to me is the tropical storm was forecast a few days in advance and alot of people still went. I'm sure some people think it can't rain very much in the desert but it can rain hard it just takes an unusual weather pattern. The tropical storm had much more moisture than the typical storm and it came from the south which means it didn't have to go over the Sierra and there was no rainshadowing.
But God has helped me to this very day; so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen- that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles. Acts 26:22-23
It's almost like there's this thing called weather forecasting and they thought they were just too cool to get trapped. Most of these people are from silicon valley, remember.
Trent, thanks for posting this amazing video!! As a student of Mother Nature, it's so nice to hear other people obsess about the weather. You really give some solid info, not like the news clip sound bites. A fan from up in the wild woods of Canada, D❤
Awesome Assfalt!!!! Trent, You buddy ,have one hell of a nice place ! your hole set up is awesome! Thanks for sharing. If you ever git out Ibapah way ( 45 miles south of Wendover, Pony Express trail) stop in . you will see an old 1958 cessna in the front yard.
Thanks for the overflight of the playa and the lucid and knowledgeable commentary on the environment of the Black Rock Desert, as there is far too much speculation and conspiracy regarding what is going on down there online.
They are recommending people stay put until at least Tuesday for it to dry out a little, but they are not preventing anybody from leaving. Even on their website, they say nobody is being prevented from leaving and they are free to go as they wish.
@@piyushan_abeynayake Not only are they getting stuck and preventing others from leaving, but they are leaving huge ruts, which when dry, will prevent others from being able to leave. As well, all of those tire ruts, etc are completely destroying the eco-system of the dry lake bed. Every single person that decided to leave during a stay in place order should be fined many, many thousands of dollars for damage to the eco-system. They are all eco-terrorists. .... and remember folks, all these people are useless eaters. 70,000 of them have been gone from civilization for over a week and nobody noticed they were gone.
There’s a difference between nobody is being prevented from leaving and nobody is preventing anyone from leaving. Plenty of people being prevented from leaving - it’s just from the mud.
I was there, I was volunteering on event staff, this was my seventh burn. There were a lot of examples of people pulling together, having their shit together, supporting each other, while keeping it a party. It was potentially serious though, any medical dispatch had to happen on foot, don't get yourself hurt in that environment. We were advising people trying to leave: We won't stop you, you're not being detained, we're urging everyone to shelter in place, you will be getting further from help if you leave the city, and you will be the last to get towed out if you get stuck.
You're both so awesome and appreciated. I've always had a love for birds eye views, but your Playa perspectives and commentary have been very enjoyable and oh so insightful. Thank you. Also you both have me questioning "concepts" of socks😅🤣🧦😉
TH-camr and paramotor pilot, Judson Graham is in Black Rock. He reported in his video that he saw your plane flying over. He also reported that things are nor as bad a media reported it and people aren't panicking yet.
I have had two camping trips turn out like this. Weather reports indicate a sprinkling of rain but the reality is a deluge. Sadly the best you can do is wait for the clay mud to dry out enough to not get bogged on the way out. I hope everyone there has enough fresh water.
So glad I passed on going this year! Next up for potential ruin with this inclement weather - the last run of the Reno Air Races - hoping and praying for flying weather for that.
I use to live in Rancho Haven, my first year there I got stuck on my own property, that Clay muck will get you every time. And that's why I carry tire chains year round. And don't drive on my ranch when it's wet. Great video
I live in Reno, the gateway to the Playa. I had 1/2 an inch of rain yesterday. Last I heard from the Reno Gazette, is that there are 54,000 people out in the desert. Usually on the way home there is a bunch of DUI's issued. This year, a bunch of tow bills will be issued. And yes, this is Tuesday, September 5, and almost everyone is still stuck out there. That dry lakebed is not a dry lakebed.
we hiked out yesterday down gate road and ended up getting a ride to Fernley in an RV. Then hitched a ride to Reno. It was a complete mess in the city, much better on the playa. The gate road was actually pretty good until you got towards the blacktop and had to cross two rivers. The trick to walking in that mud is socks on feet, bag over socks, shoes over bag, then socks over shoes. You can walk through almost anything for hours and stay dry and don't get the buildup on your shoes.
@@mtiffee from the org site moop page 4) Dunes Why do dunes matter? We share this land with others who use it, and it’s important that we keep it safe for vehicle passage by keeping the playa flat (The Black Rock Desert is known to be one of the flattest stretches of land on Earth). Dunes are formed when windblown dust bounces off stationary objects and reforms on the ground, attracting more and more dust to the pile and exponentially creating a bigger dune. A mere pencil can create a dune. Once they start, there is nothing to stop them, except us. Caught at an early stage, dunes can be stopped by simply raking them down with a landscape rake. Be sure to MOOP the area afterward. ....... Rakes or better yet, landscape rakes! Dust storms happen, dunes build up very quickly and you could find yourself on your hands and knees using your bare hands sifting for things that might well turn into MOOP. Use a rake, and pull the MOOP out. Landscape rakes are wider, can catch more MOOP, and can comb through more area. You can use the back end of the rake to cut down the size of the dune and pull it flat. Push Brooms That dune that you’re standing on that used to be the site of your camp… yeah, that can’t be there. The dune will just get bigger and bigger as it attracts more dust and catches MOOP. When the winter rains come, that dune will just solidify into a big dune as hard as the playa surface itself which will suck for anyone using the playa, including us. Do your best and knock it down with a pushbroom. Or have a few on hand and watch how easy it is to restore the flattest real estate in the Black Rock Desert.
It’s like they don’t have the ability to plan and assess situations for risk vs reward. Love this quote. Poor planning on your part doesn’t necessarily constitute and emergency on my part.
A friend of mine about 18 years ago became a bit of a burner. He helped some people build some really cool pirate ships. Gave his tech knowledge to one of the bigger light shows and helped design a 3rd generation of someone's bass bin. I remember asking him, "what are you going to do it it rains out on that silt for more than five hours?" His eyes got real big with what looked like concern and told me he would show me in a few days. A few days later he showed me tire devices he made with slotted and grooved 2 x 2 wood about 10-12 inches long, connected to a rope net that goes around the tire. Secures tightly with a come-a-long wench. Genius! Though, he had an issue that caused him to stop going before this 'rain event'. About six years ago he got married and had a child. Third is on the way.
I got stuck out at a rained in and flooded festival in a field that became an island in Australia years ago back in 2008. It was rough but we managed to have fun at times. There were about 1000 of us. Nothing on this scale though. We had food and water flown in. We were all out in just over a week. Only one person was permitted to leave via helicopter for medical reasons.
Crazy...but seen on a wider scale all this rain has got to be a benefit. Especially in a part of the country which is normally so dry, and long term is getting drier.
We’re still waiting for the airport to open so we can take off from Reno and evacuate passengers. Originally, we were flying people to Oakland. Now they’re just focused on evacuating people as fast as they can. Reno to Black Rock and back. We’re each able to make 4 round trips in the Caravan. That’s about 8 hours of flying. We’re prepped and ready to take off as soon as BXA ops gives us the ok.
This is starting to line up for a perfect juxtaposition between the impending government response to Burning Man versus the current government response to Maui. Sit back and pop that popcorn!
That was certainly my first thought. THIS is not a disaster that the feds should be responding to. THIS is people en masse recreating while failing to plan to take care of themselves. This is NOT people going about their daily lives in shelter that SHOULD have protected them, in communities with services and things that SHOULD go as planned, but hit by true disasters (not the natural flooding of a floodplain in a desert...SMH).
I hope the government response is to permanently yank the permits for this event. The tribal rangers' response to the "activists" blocking the road was a good start.
Or the entitled chattering class who consume an empty joy at the misfortune of others. (difficult to see who is muddier - squirming around in their own self satisfied S***.)
Nice, thanks for another perspective on our situation, can see my camp in your(clip from 5:32~5:37) interesting to see it from overhead after having lived the on the ground. we were good to go another week but the feeling of not being able to leave was definitely messing with people.
can you tell more about the experience, i am very interested in hearing and knowing more about being there and what it feels like what it looks like and every aspect!
I think that's the point. Most people had enough food and water anyway, because they didn't plan on leave until Tuesday. So nobody's running out of food. They're Feet are just a bit soggy this week.
I was once asked at Customs why I was traveling with so much food. I replied that I have a 13-yr-old with me. She smiled at my daughter and said, you’ve got a great mom!
@@Jolis_Parsec Yes, Trench foot happened in the trenches of WW1 and the jungles of Vietnam after LONG TERM exposure to mud and water and low hygiene which is NOT the case here. Good try though...
I've seen how muddy it gets at festivals in the fields of New England. Through foot and vehicle traffic, those can turn into quagmires in no time at all... This here makes what I have seen in New England look tame. Reminds me more of the time I spent working for an excavation company.
Of course, what they’re dealing with in Nevada isn’t ordinary soil-based mud (garden-variety mud, if you will)- when rain hits these sedimentary desert lake beds, it effectively becomes clay, and I think many of the people trying to drive their RVs out seriously underestimate it.
@@Lykapodium Main walking and driving areas from just about every festival I can remember, when the fields were not bone dry. Those get trashed pretty easily after not much traffic. Makes you appreciate the impact all sorts of large groups of people have on the land as they move tbh. Worst I can remember was a Camp Creek a couple of decades ago. The field at the bottom of the hill where the stage is just collected all the water. I remember one car sunk in the middle of what was originally an area with tents. Sunk in a combo of mud and water past its headlights. Everything was some degree of muddy mess by saturday morning if not by friday evening.
@@DeflatingAtheism Like I said, it literally reminds me of time I spent working for an excavation company. More specifically I was thinking about some of the broken water lines we had to dig up. Can't always turn the water off, can't always turn it off quickly. I have had to be pulled out of more than one muddy hole by machine. No lie, people seriously underestimate how much real mud sucks.
I don’t have one of those TV things, but I’m guessing the news isn’t talking about Maui anymore… All attention on the Playa, with still hundreds of missing children in Lahaina.
Having done a number of outdoor events with remote access you learn to plan for the worst case scenario, the reason it's a flip of the coin if things will go as planned or to hell. As is said "plan for the worst and hope for the best". It looks like didn't plan past the weekend.
And have a good event insurance policy. One that allows you to cancel for rain up till the day of. IF such an insurance company exists that would be willing to insure under those terms. Back east people routinely include "in case of rain" alternate plans on their invitations. I forget what they call them. Not usually needed in Nevada, California, etc.
My son is there. His tent broke and he's freezing (and from Chicago!) People are offering a spot in their RV's. His friends and I are going to take up a collection to send him money for a space.
Love dingbat angst-laden reports like this. It'll scare away the riff-raff who don't know the playa and should never have attended. I had a great time!
Yeah, you just need to have potable water and dry food for the expected stay + a week extra and you'll be fine. However, if you come in sandals and carrying a luggage full of booze and drugs only, things like this may threaten your life.
The asphalt in front of the hangar is a great idea, it should save on cleaning the inside of the hangar, at the very least! It might get a bit hot under the sun, but... what doesn't?
Physical hardship is what makes it more than a festival. It is only by traveling beyond the ordinary boundaries of our usual experiences that we learn what we are capable of. The hallmark of religious experience is to be taken out of the ordinary and cast into a field of possibility that is at once larger and stranger and yet feels like true home. This is why hundreds of thousands of people make this pilgrimage a regular part of their lives. If it were just a party, no one would go, because as a party, it sucks. This year was by far the best of all my years. An absolute gem among gems.
Read up on it and you’ll be surprised how that’s part of it. They ensure nothing is left behind- like fine tooth comb the entire place to ensure that. It’s wild
Burning Man Mission Statement includes: "The touchstone of value in our culture will always be immediacy, survival before services". I think they may have gotten more of the immediacy and survival than they bargained for this year.
yeah they only have to make like 100000 trips to save all of them ;) i like Dave and Matt , but they can't do miracles theres a lot of vehicles stucked in the mud they will have to works for weeks to rescue them
Great vid! I just watched the Burning Man livestream, and it looks like things are starting to dry out. There are vehicles driving around on the playa, and apparently they're going to "burn the man" tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys are up flying right now!
This was an epic burn. The weather made all the good stuff even better. Burningman used to be about survival and this year was a reminder of that. Stay away unless. you are called to the playa. You know if you should be there or not.
The self proclaimed best and brightest done in by a rainshower. Perhaps the historical marker end of the 2020-2023 era, where what it said on your phone controlled your life.
The party continued. the fire will burn tonight and people will leave happy. Nothing was "done in". People just got wet and muddy. just like many other festivals I've been to
Every year during the burning man we’re at double hots that’s where we Dovehunt because of the rain we didn’t go this year. We went to the ranch instead on the county road and it was a mess. Enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Trent, you should read the supposed Principles of Burning Man, what we have seen the last few years between the renegade burns, and climate protesters being attacked this year, and then the utter disrespect to the land - i think it will break your heart to see what it is supposed to stand for
I was there. It was huge fun. I loved it. Like most Burners, I thrived. Mud, or no mud, heat or no heat, dust or no dust, there is nothing richer in my life than the few days I get to spend each year being out on the desert stretching the corners of my life with 70 or 80 thousand other explorers, no matter what the desert serves up. And gee, too BAD I can't get out to go back to work because of the mud! Do I still have shelter, booze, music and my friends? Oh well, I will just play some more....'because I have to..... I guess'. Adults and mud play, what could be better. Can't wait to be back for next year's adventure. I think what non-Burners do not understand about Burners, is that we seek out the challenge and creativity in the adversity. Sure we suffer a bit, but we also grow. And in Burning Man, we do it community. In this, we build deeper friendships, learn how to be radically self-reliant, and become more confident and compassionate all at the same time. It makes us better people. Not better than others, just better and happier than we were when stepped on the playa and into the Burning Man experience! That the press mis-understood or mis-portrayed the experience in the mud at this year's Burning Man is a little sad but not surprising. It is also more than a little ironic that once again the press is steering people away from the very thing so many seek in the drab default world: More stretch, more growth, more richness and fun. If you are curious to hear more: www.cresswellwalker.com/sail7cs
Who’d have thunk it? And why don’t I have much sympathy for these people. If only there were weather forecasts that could predict rain in an area that floods and becomes a mud bath in such conditions. 😅
Weather forecasts are only really accurate 2-3 days in advance, at which point almost everyone was already there. Even then it's subject to change, By Thursday, everyone knew there was rain coming but it was much more and for longer then the forecast predicted. Don't need any sympathy though. It was a great time! It's just a little mud and rain, and most of us were well prepared. Just not the fools who got stuck trying to drive out
Some super quick and easy research will net a fantastic explanation. From what I hear beyond the shock media, most people had a great time. It was the attendees who couldn't be bothered by a little rain that made a mess.
Excellent footage and updates
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It's almost like a dry lake bed is a bad place to be after a rainstorm. Interesting...
They are luck they are not in the land of OZ the water would be a meter deep by now.
holy shit people are stupid.
Dinosaurs used to roam there
And didn't it rain last week too? After Hillary? My son lives in Reno and he said they were getting rain. It's almost like they forgot to check the weather😮
Mud sucks on a lake bed 😅😅😅
Not even just a dry lake bed. The desert in general. Water: gives life, but will take it just the same.
This is GOOD. THIS IS ALWAYS A RISK there. Black Rock Desert has a very special surface with a unique chemistry. The veterans are staying put and partying their ass off IN PLACE. It always dries out eventually. Nature is teaching a whole lot of people some important life lessons. I've been there for some really extreme weather. I love that desert more than you can ever understand.
Amen. Do what BLM or BMOrg suggests/requests and you're sitting pretty. Take in your neighbors if you have an RV. Read the Survival Guide BEFORE you make your preparations. It'll save you a world of hurt later. Back in 2015 when it was horrid during the days and literally freezing at night, I was sitting pretty because I brought not just warm weather clothing and such but winter gear complete with parka, gloves, wool hat, and cocoa. Be Prepared. LOL
Omg I'm so glad other people remember my first burn! 2015!
It froze! Skinniest year of my life bc I had nothing but cure clothes haha!
Oh and very funny how everyone who was patient and listening to the radio ended up fine this year
It'd be cool if you loved that desert enough to leave it be.
Someone should call in the air strike and rid the desert of these cretins.
It’s unfortunate there’s not some sort of way to check impending weather and like plan ahead before attending an event in a remote location.
Normally they put down driving plates.
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Since when do hippies plan anything?
Its unfortunate its not some sort of event with a core principle of preparedness and radical self reliance (and leaving no trace) - oh wait........ ooops. Guess those principles didnt actually mean much
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Thanks for posting Trent!
Whats going Juan? (sorry)
When will you be doing a flyover, Juan?
thanks for blowing up my speakers Arnold Palmer........
@@juanaboynkin1196 Trent's got it covered!!
Adventures begins when things dont go according to plans. You adapt, improvise, and overcome!
Matt’s Off-Road recovery is in for a big payday. Prior proper planning…
Nah they can all get out themselves. Once it's dry you can tow them out with a 2WD car.
@@LarsLarsen77 If they are already stuck, they can be glued into the playa.
@@LarsLarsen77 1st jack hammer the concrete style mud .
Matt never bothers to fill up his gas tanks, and never brings extra.
lmao
Always know when it's time to quit and come back another day; anyone who has been to the Mojave knows that a half inch of rain creates a biblical flood. Great video.
Yup. I used to live in Barstow. A couple times the Mojave river was RAGING when it is usually dry.
Trent, thanks for the Recce flight. I was down there, looking up. Wish I'd known you were flying by. Very good coverage of the issue. The ONLY problem was travel, but some people freaked out anyway. It wasn't cold. It wasn't dangerous. We weren't being stalked by wolves. Even if you ran out of food or water, your neighbor had extra. It was just a desert camping trip that decided to get rainy. That is NOT an existential crisis. The guidance from BMIR, Burning Man Information Radio, was crystal clear: DO NOT TRAVEL. Nobody was going to chase you if you chose to try an escape against advice, but as your video shows, the advice was right and a significant portion of the people who ignored the message ended up stuck. It was my fifth Burn and it was fine. A bit less flash and glitter than other years, but more neighbor to neighbor time and a sense of pulling together. Contractor Strength garbage bags make fine mud shoes.
Last year it was hot and windy and dusty. Someone wished for a Burn without Dust. We got it. Read the Survival Guide and think about the 10 Principles, prospective Burners. Maybe dump the Sparkle Pony costume, and bring a bit more food and water and a sturdy shelter. See you next year.
We stayed put and got to spend so much more time getting to know our fellow campers (we were a camp of 70+ people located on esplanade) than in previous years. We got to see the burn with a couple of night's delay in a more intimate setting than I ever expected to experience. Was also my fifth, though I have been burning for more than 15 years, mostly attending regionals every year, as the trek west is a long one for us.
All in all, a trying experience more than usual, but not at all anything dangerous, as long as you weren't stupid and stayed put. We left Wednesday on a no-wait dry gate road....so dry, in fact, that they were running water trucks down it to keep the dust down, ironically enough.
I am personally laughing at all the armchair quarterbacks commenting on something they have zero experience with...though this IS the internet.
Thank you for helping dispel the mountain of misinfo that is pouring out of the media. People who were there the whole time need to set the record straight. Thanks for doing your part in this.
Truly it is written; An adventure is something you realize you have had, when you return to the place you swore never to leave again while you were having it!
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We knew this video was coming, people on the ground were saying, (while looking up) "it looks like Trent Palmer is flying over us"! LOL
Are you still there?
@@charlottebowes7666.............. No, I was never there, I saw a video!
@@edchester1773 Your statement implies you were there. So which account did you take this from as it’s not accredited or quoted? I need to see it please, would you provide a link?
Have you seen anyone from inside post anything in the last 10 hours? It’s midday in Nevada and I haven’t seen anyone posting new content or proof of life?
@@charlottebowes7666 I think you're taking his comment a LITTLE too seriously...
@@SBmasta441 Mate jog on, I ain’t got time for you 😎
I was there and got to Reno a couple hours ago. It was bad, yes, but not as bad as it looked from the air and not nearly as bad as the news stories made it sound. I think the general public doesn't realize most burners are over-prepared to the point we have extra supplies to help the few that don't. No one in my camp was sleeping in a puddle, and none of us have RVs. The anxiety of being stuck was much worse than the actual conditions. But cool to see the view from the air, thanks!
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@@DCADE94 Loser with no money that wishes he could go
I saw the news reports of this over the weekend and thought of your fly-over some days ago. Good reporting, Trent!
A 10 mile walk to get home is NOT that bad lol
Exactly. It's good cardio
10 miles on solid ground is absolutely doable. 10 miles in mud where you have to fight for every step suuuuuuuucks.
it is for these crystal generation woke pu zzies!
@@amoliski true..guess it just depends on how bad you wanna leave
The thing is most people don’t wanna leave their things behind
The words, Self Inflicted Wound, keeps coming to mind. They talk about taking everything out that you bring in in order to preserve the playa, I'm wondering how much damage they have done in just these few days by driving all over it while it's wet. It's amazing the things we can rationalize and justify in our own minds in the name of a good time. They were getting rain right before the damn thing started.
It's all rich kids going to Burning Man - the cost to go has increased since the creation. It's now Coachella for Rich Hipsters.
It started as a bohemian free expression of art, music and life, but now it's just some instagram content for TH-camrs and rich kids bored with daddy's money.
@@ricktyman4709 Meh not sure how true this is... given the amount of resentment vibes you got going on there there. lol. But i do know that even rich kids trying to have fun don't deserve to starve to death in a soggy desert.
@@josh__mclendon 'Deserve' is an interesting word choice, but to that mindset I would just say that Darwin works in mysterious ways.
@@DrMackSplackem typical atheist
Burning man hasn't been burning man for a long time. It's just the worst people these days who think they are cool for going.
We were wet. We were tired. We were muddy. We were hungry. And out of gas. The legacy of burning man 2023.
and.... I had to shit in my shoe because shoes are worthless anyway
Sounds a bit like Woodstock. Which I went to.
We were morons.
And we paid big bucks to do it. Priceless.
What to do if idiots have the road blocked to protest ,when on the way out
We were shooting in the Salt Flats near state line and it started to rain. Within minutes you could not move. It happens fast.
The more remarkable thing to me is the tropical storm was forecast a few days in advance and alot of people still went. I'm sure some people think it can't rain very much in the desert but it can rain hard it just takes an unusual weather pattern. The tropical storm had much more moisture than the typical storm and it came from the south which means it didn't have to go over the Sierra and there was no rainshadowing.
Did u get any pictures? They say if it does rain the mirror effect is in place.
@@mabelbradley6604 luckily it didn’t rain for very long so we were able to escape. But we did not see any mirror lakes on the flats.
But God has helped me to this very day; so I stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen- that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles.
Acts 26:22-23
It's almost like there's this thing called weather forecasting and they thought they were just too cool to get trapped. Most of these people are from silicon valley, remember.
Trent, thanks for posting this amazing video!! As a student of Mother Nature, it's so nice to hear other people obsess about the weather. You really give some solid info, not like the news clip sound bites.
A fan from up in the wild woods of Canada, D❤
That was pretty awesome . You offered a different perspective on what was going on. I'm glad some people are able to get out
People are having a blast! Life finally got adventurous for them. 😃
This will be a story to tell, for sure! People are doing fine, I also bet they actually enjoyed this experience, feeling alive.
@@lis7742 You are correct! Watch Wonderhussy Adventures --- she went and... well, you'll see if you watch her. 🌦
😆 🤣 😂
@@lis7742 and they get screen coverage!!
Awesome Assfalt!!!! Trent, You buddy ,have one hell of a nice place ! your hole set up is awesome! Thanks for sharing. If you ever git out Ibapah way ( 45 miles south of Wendover, Pony Express trail) stop in . you will see an old 1958 cessna in the front yard.
Thanks for the overflight of the playa and the lucid and knowledgeable commentary on the environment of the Black Rock Desert, as there is far too much speculation and conspiracy regarding what is going on down there online.
They are recommending people stay put until at least Tuesday for it to dry out a little, but they are not preventing anybody from leaving. Even on their website, they say nobody is being prevented from leaving and they are free to go as they wish.
BMIR is lying to people and saying you will be ticketed if you move a vehicle.
People are leaving in mass as we speak there is a live stream
It's not an internment camp or some such. People should be free to leave as they choose I would imagine ?
@@piyushan_abeynayake Not only are they getting stuck and preventing others from leaving, but they are leaving huge ruts, which when dry, will prevent others from being able to leave.
As well, all of those tire ruts, etc are completely destroying the eco-system of the dry lake bed. Every single person that decided to leave during a stay in place order should be fined many, many thousands of dollars for damage to the eco-system. They are all eco-terrorists.
.... and remember folks, all these people are useless eaters. 70,000 of them have been gone from civilization for over a week and nobody noticed they were gone.
There’s a difference between nobody is being prevented from leaving and nobody is preventing anyone from leaving.
Plenty of people being prevented from leaving - it’s just from the mud.
haven't seen you're channel in probably two years, Glad to see everythings coming together how you wanted!
"Not that people here do drugs." LOL, that's funny.
I did some research and it turns out a giant dry lake bed is susceptible to water intrusion. Who knew.
I was there, I was volunteering on event staff, this was my seventh burn. There were a lot of examples of people pulling together, having their shit together, supporting each other, while keeping it a party.
It was potentially serious though, any medical dispatch had to happen on foot, don't get yourself hurt in that environment.
We were advising people trying to leave: We won't stop you, you're not being detained, we're urging everyone to shelter in place, you will be getting further from help if you leave the city, and you will be the last to get towed out if you get stuck.
All the sudden being self sufficient isn’t so fun any more and ready to head on back to that dreadful “default world”! 🤣
You're both so awesome and appreciated. I've always had a love for birds eye views, but your Playa perspectives and commentary have been very enjoyable and oh so insightful.
Thank you.
Also you both have me questioning "concepts" of socks😅🤣🧦😉
Thanks for flying and showing us this. Hope everything works out there for the people.
TH-camr and paramotor pilot, Judson Graham is in Black Rock. He reported in his video that he saw your plane flying over. He also reported that things are nor as bad a media reported it and people aren't panicking yet.
So much moop and he doesnt even care
That "yet" killed me haha
I have had two camping trips turn out like this. Weather reports indicate a sprinkling of rain but the reality is a deluge. Sadly the best you can do is wait for the clay mud to dry out enough to not get bogged on the way out. I hope everyone there has enough fresh water.
Or rain capture!
zzz
3:04 woman carrying a beer while the other has ALL the luggage
So glad I passed on going this year! Next up for potential ruin with this inclement weather - the last run of the Reno Air Races - hoping and praying for flying weather for that.
The Playa will never be the same after this, leave no trace my arse.
@@RoySATX So MOOPy, heartbreaking
@2:51 “The Donner party was all jokes in the beginning” 😂
Easy for you to say.
I use to live in Rancho Haven, my first year there I got stuck on my own property, that Clay muck will get you every time. And that's why I carry tire chains year round. And don't drive on my ranch when it's wet. Great video
Looks like you put asphalt down, looks great!!
I had friends who got out yesterday (Sunday) with 2WD vehicles, and the traffic was actually faster than usual. 3 hours from camp to Gerlach.
I live in Reno, the gateway to the Playa. I had 1/2 an inch of rain yesterday. Last I heard from the Reno Gazette, is that there are 54,000 people out in the desert. Usually on the way home there is a bunch of DUI's issued. This year, a bunch of tow bills will be issued. And yes, this is Tuesday, September 5, and almost everyone is still stuck out there. That dry lakebed is not a dry lakebed.
we hiked out yesterday down gate road and ended up getting a ride to Fernley in an RV. Then hitched a ride to Reno. It was a complete mess in the city, much better on the playa. The gate road was actually pretty good until you got towards the blacktop and had to cross two rivers. The trick to walking in that mud is socks on feet, bag over socks, shoes over bag, then socks over shoes. You can walk through almost anything for hours and stay dry and don't get the buildup on your shoes.
How much MOOP did you leave?
@@mycosys we didn’t leave anything that isn’t going to be driven out by camp mates.
@@mtiffee from the org site moop page
4) Dunes
Why do dunes matter? We share this land with others who use it, and it’s important that we keep it safe for vehicle passage by keeping the playa flat (The Black Rock Desert is known to be one of the flattest stretches of land on Earth). Dunes are formed when windblown dust bounces off stationary objects and reforms on the ground, attracting more and more dust to the pile and exponentially creating a bigger dune. A mere pencil can create a dune. Once they start, there is nothing to stop them, except us. Caught at an early stage, dunes can be stopped by simply raking them down with a landscape rake. Be sure to MOOP the area afterward.
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Rakes
or better yet, landscape rakes! Dust storms happen, dunes build up very quickly and you could find yourself on your hands and knees using your bare hands sifting for things that might well turn into MOOP. Use a rake, and pull the MOOP out. Landscape rakes are wider, can catch more MOOP, and can comb through more area. You can use the back end of the rake to cut down the size of the dune and pull it flat.
Push Brooms
That dune that you’re standing on that used to be the site of your camp… yeah, that can’t be there. The dune will just get bigger and bigger as it attracts more dust and catches MOOP. When the winter rains come, that dune will just solidify into a big dune as hard as the playa surface itself which will suck for anyone using the playa, including us. Do your best and knock it down with a pushbroom. Or have a few on hand and watch how easy it is to restore the flattest real estate in the Black Rock Desert.
@@mycosys Is this an ancient native people's practice, or something folks recently started doing? And for what reason?
Thanks good to know
Just an FYI snow chains work great in Mudd to.
It’s like they don’t have the ability to plan and assess situations for risk vs reward. Love this quote. Poor planning on your part doesn’t necessarily constitute and emergency on my part.
That's what I was thinking - don't these people check the weather before they go on a road trip????
Just what would create an emergency on your part?
@@roginutahsomething that effect th3 whole world.
@@Masaki-1334 That sounds more like something that affects you. Just sayin'.
@@roginutah yes, that's what I said.
A friend of mine about 18 years ago became a bit of a burner. He helped some people build some really cool pirate ships. Gave his tech knowledge to one of the bigger light shows and helped design a 3rd generation of someone's bass bin. I remember asking him, "what are you going to do it it rains out on that silt for more than five hours?" His eyes got real big with what looked like concern and told me he would show me in a few days. A few days later he showed me tire devices he made with slotted and grooved 2 x 2 wood about 10-12 inches long, connected to a rope net that goes around the tire. Secures tightly with a come-a-long wench. Genius! Though, he had an issue that caused him to stop going before this 'rain event'. About six years ago he got married and had a child. Third is on the way.
I got stuck out at a rained in and flooded festival in a field that became an island in Australia years ago back in 2008. It was rough but we managed to have fun at times. There were about 1000 of us. Nothing on this scale though. We had food and water flown in. We were all out in just over a week. Only one person was permitted to leave via helicopter for medical reasons.
Wow… Safe Flying. The weather has been crazy.
Crazy...but seen on a wider scale all this rain has got to be a benefit. Especially in a part of the country which is normally so dry, and long term is getting drier.
"...Not that people here do drugs" 😅
We’re still waiting for the airport to open so we can take off from Reno and evacuate passengers. Originally, we were flying people to Oakland. Now they’re just focused on evacuating people as fast as they can. Reno to Black Rock and back. We’re each able to make 4 round trips in the Caravan. That’s about 8 hours of flying. We’re prepped and ready to take off as soon as BXA ops gives us the ok.
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@criticalevent8191 when it's not mud, yes.
@@HunnySanchezI do douchelord
let them wait. They're not missed nor needed. Let them play with the mud like pigs child adults they are.
How much are you charging for that flight?
Excellent footage and updates but please keep yourselves safe!
So rad watching you land at your own strip. Congrats my dude.
zzz
This is starting to line up for a perfect juxtaposition between the impending government response to Burning Man versus the current government response to Maui. Sit back and pop that popcorn!
That was certainly my first thought. THIS is not a disaster that the feds should be responding to. THIS is people en masse recreating while failing to plan to take care of themselves. This is NOT people going about their daily lives in shelter that SHOULD have protected them, in communities with services and things that SHOULD go as planned, but hit by true disasters (not the natural flooding of a floodplain in a desert...SMH).
I hope the government response is to permanently yank the permits for this event. The tribal rangers' response to the "activists" blocking the road was a good start.
The difference is the world would be a better place if the rain never stopped at burning man.
@@bryana1041or the district of Columbia.
Or the entitled chattering class who consume an empty joy at the misfortune of others.
(difficult to see who is muddier - squirming around in their own self satisfied S***.)
Great job Trent!! Thank you for the informative update!!!
Nice, thanks for another perspective on our situation, can see my camp in your(clip from 5:32~5:37) interesting to see it from overhead after having lived the on the ground. we were good to go another week but the feeling of not being able to leave was definitely messing with people.
can you tell more about the experience, i am very interested in hearing and knowing more about being there and what it feels like what it looks like and every aspect!
Thanks Trent. We have friends stuck at BRC with their C208 Caravan waiting for the airport to reopen. Let's hope for sunny skies.
Why is the airport closed???
Plan for the worst and hope for the best dont go out of town without triple of what may be needed I was taught correctly by my grandfather 👊😁🙏🇺🇸😎
I think that's the point. Most people had enough food and water anyway, because they didn't plan on leave until Tuesday. So nobody's running out of food. They're Feet are just a bit soggy this week.
@alandeon Bruh, do you even know about Trench Foot? 😂
I was once asked at Customs why I was traveling with so much food. I replied that I have a 13-yr-old with me. She smiled at my daughter and said, you’ve got a great mom!
@@lizlarsen1653 smart smart woman and yes a great mom to be prepared I agree👊🙏😁
@@Jolis_Parsec Yes, Trench foot happened in the trenches of WW1 and the jungles of Vietnam after LONG TERM exposure to mud and water and low hygiene which is NOT the case here. Good try though...
Thanks for the reasonable observations of the situation.. people with expectations get surprised when things don't work out..
Thanks for the update on what's happening out there. Also, the asphalt looks good!
I've seen how muddy it gets at festivals in the fields of New England. Through foot and vehicle traffic, those can turn into quagmires in no time at all... This here makes what I have seen in New England look tame. Reminds me more of the time I spent working for an excavation company.
Which festivals are those??
Of course, what they’re dealing with in Nevada isn’t ordinary soil-based mud (garden-variety mud, if you will)- when rain hits these sedimentary desert lake beds, it effectively becomes clay, and I think many of the people trying to drive their RVs out seriously underestimate it.
@@Lykapodium Main walking and driving areas from just about every festival I can remember, when the fields were not bone dry. Those get trashed pretty easily after not much traffic. Makes you appreciate the impact all sorts of large groups of people have on the land as they move tbh.
Worst I can remember was a Camp Creek a couple of decades ago. The field at the bottom of the hill where the stage is just collected all the water. I remember one car sunk in the middle of what was originally an area with tents. Sunk in a combo of mud and water past its headlights. Everything was some degree of muddy mess by saturday morning if not by friday evening.
@@DeflatingAtheism Like I said, it literally reminds me of time I spent working for an excavation company. More specifically I was thinking about some of the broken water lines we had to dig up. Can't always turn the water off, can't always turn it off quickly. I have had to be pulled out of more than one muddy hole by machine.
No lie, people seriously underestimate how much real mud sucks.
Congrats on the views! I've followed for years. Blown away by number of views. Major props!
I don’t have one of those TV things, but I’m guessing the news isn’t talking about Maui anymore… All attention on the Playa, with still hundreds of missing children in Lahaina.
Having done a number of outdoor events with remote access you learn to plan for the worst case scenario, the reason it's a flip of the coin if things will go as planned or to hell.
As is said "plan for the worst and hope for the best". It looks like didn't plan past the weekend.
And have a good event insurance policy. One that allows you to cancel for rain up till the day of. IF such an insurance company exists that would be willing to insure under those terms.
Back east people routinely include "in case of rain" alternate plans on their invitations. I forget what they call them. Not usually needed in Nevada, California, etc.
When you are warned by multiple outlets, yet you feel invincible. I think this is called natural selection.
Darwin commands respect.
It is not natural selection...there is no such thing. It is STUPIDITY !
It always has been natural selection at Burning an. We select against people like you.
Epic video bro, this footage is unprecedented.
I love the old dude having his young girlfriend carry the luggage.
Looks like an older woman to me.
She is the porter. Wait til it's time to stop for tea.
This was a very information dense production and so timely. Thank you for putting in the effort. New Subscriber, liked it!
Thank you!! I want to see how well they cleaned up two weeks from now
Wishing everyone who is out there patience and love! My friend is stuck there but I am sure she still staying positive which I love.
Did she get trench foot yet? 😏
My son is there. His tent broke and he's freezing (and from Chicago!) People are offering a spot in their RV's. His friends and I are going to take up a collection to send him money for a space.
It depends on her supplies of water and food, and how full the septic tank is.
Anybody with a hovercraft would be like Superman.
Or anybody who can walk about a mile. That's how close the paved road is.
Calling them "stranded" is a joke.
Nope. Hovercraft doesn't work in mud. The skirt touches and you are stuck. Helicopter or shanks pony only.
Not so Ray. Depends on where and how you stop it and what kind of unit you're operating. Hovercraft are perfect for swamps and mud bogs.@@raytoews9872
Love dingbat angst-laden reports like this. It'll scare away the riff-raff who don't know the playa and should never have attended. I had a great time!
We have a burning fish festival on Sept 16 up here in Lorain, Ohio on Lake Erie and I promise you won't get stuck.
yeah,but you might sink..
You guys did great in coverage of this hot mess.❤❤
"They'll let you go if you make it to the road." Try and stop me! 😂 😂
Self reliance means don't allow yourself to be trapped in this type of situation.
they paid heavily for tickets
@@sugarpuddinno refunds it’s climate change 🤣
Got that right.
Yeah, you just need to have potable water and dry food for the expected stay + a week extra and you'll be fine. However, if you come in sandals and carrying a luggage full of booze and drugs only, things like this may threaten your life.
Water is wet
The asphalt in front of the hangar is a great idea, it should save on cleaning the inside of the hangar, at the very least! It might get a bit hot under the sun, but... what doesn't?
Physical hardship is what makes it more than a festival. It is only by traveling beyond the ordinary boundaries of our usual experiences that we learn what we are capable of. The hallmark of religious experience is to be taken out of the ordinary and cast into a field of possibility that is at once larger and stranger and yet feels like true home. This is why hundreds of thousands of people make this pilgrimage a regular part of their lives. If it were just a party, no one would go, because as a party, it sucks. This year was by far the best of all my years. An absolute gem among gems.
Killer update! Reports / news I'm reading suggests majority will not get out till next weekend, if they are lucky!
I've never understood -- do they get some kind of exemption on the environmental damage every year? Who does the clean-up, especially this year?
They have to personally clean up everything every year
Read up on it and you’ll be surprised how that’s part of it. They ensure nothing is left behind- like fine tooth comb the entire place to ensure that. It’s wild
Burning Man Mission Statement includes: "The touchstone of value in our culture will always be immediacy, survival before services". I think they may have gotten more of the immediacy and survival than they bargained for this year.
*Dave Sparks is amazing with amazing equipment!*
If anybody can pull these vehicles out it's Dave and his crew!!!
Get Matt up the with his wrecker, too. But none of those off road recovery guys like mud. It's the worst.
yeah they only have to make like 100000 trips to save all of them ;)
i like Dave and Matt , but they can't do miracles
theres a lot of vehicles stucked in the mud
they will have to works for weeks to rescue them
Great vid! I just watched the Burning Man livestream, and it looks like things are starting to dry out. There are vehicles driving around on the playa, and apparently they're going to "burn the man" tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys are up flying right now!
It’s all blown out of proportion. It was good times and will be back next year!
Trent
Thanks again for sharing some entertaining content.
I was watching another video taken from the ground at burning man and the guy said "looks like Trent Palmer circling overhead" I guess he was right. 🙂
This was an epic burn. The weather made all the good stuff even better. Burningman used to be about survival and this year was a reminder of that. Stay away unless. you are called to the playa. You know if you should be there or not.
Thanks for being a true reporter and telling us what the establishment media won't.
The self proclaimed best and brightest done in by a rainshower. Perhaps the historical marker end of the 2020-2023 era, where what it said on your phone controlled your life.
The party continued. the fire will burn tonight and people will leave happy. Nothing was "done in". People just got wet and muddy. just like many other festivals I've been to
I was there, the busses were running at the road at black rock if you could walk there, but there was not a good dissemination of info
All those tarot cards and nobody saw this coming
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No one will forget this Burning Man. Thanks for the update.
#LastBM2023
@@deniseclaeys8295 Yeah, highly doubt that
80 westbound - reno to bay area, was wide open last nite, no traffic at all. some rv's, vehicles caked with playa mud
So nice to see you flying in an out of your home..well done Trent
Yes! I was asking for this!
so glad y'all made this second flyover.
Every year during the burning man we’re at double hots that’s where we Dovehunt because of the rain we didn’t go this year. We went to the ranch instead on the county road and it was a mess. Enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Trent, you should read the supposed Principles of Burning Man, what we have seen the last few years between the renegade burns, and climate protesters being attacked this year, and then the utter disrespect to the land - i think it will break your heart to see what it is supposed to stand for
Trent, have you considered making air drops?
I was there. It was huge fun. I loved it. Like most Burners, I thrived. Mud, or no mud, heat or no heat, dust or no dust, there is nothing richer in my life than the few days I get to spend each year being out on the desert stretching the corners of my life with 70 or 80 thousand other explorers, no matter what the desert serves up.
And gee, too BAD I can't get out to go back to work because of the mud! Do I still have shelter, booze, music and my friends? Oh well, I will just play some more....'because I have to..... I guess'. Adults and mud play, what could be better. Can't wait to be back for next year's adventure.
I think what non-Burners do not understand about Burners, is that we seek out the challenge and creativity in the adversity. Sure we suffer a bit, but we also grow. And in Burning Man, we do it community. In this, we build deeper friendships, learn how to be radically self-reliant, and become more confident and compassionate all at the same time. It makes us better people. Not better than others, just better and happier than we were when stepped on the playa and into the Burning Man experience!
That the press mis-understood or mis-portrayed the experience in the mud at this year's Burning Man is a little sad but not surprising. It is also more than a little ironic that once again the press is steering people away from the very thing so many seek in the drab default world: More stretch, more growth, more richness and fun.
If you are curious to hear more: www.cresswellwalker.com/sail7cs
You should do an In-n-out run and pay for that hangar.
no way he's get off the ground again, and thats assuming he doesn't crash on landing in all that mud!
@@samconboy459Don't land, just airdrop it
Who’d have thunk it? And why don’t I have much sympathy for these people. If only there were weather forecasts that could predict rain in an area that floods and becomes a mud bath in such conditions. 😅
best to not have anymore woodstocks. they never go, and / or end well.
@@driver4011although the first woodstock was lovely
@@kayleemariee239
over flowing toilets, sewage all over, traffic jams, naked drugged out wackos havin sex everywhere, etc....just "lovely".
Weather forecasts are only really accurate 2-3 days in advance, at which point almost everyone was already there. Even then it's subject to change, By Thursday, everyone knew there was rain coming but it was much more and for longer then the forecast predicted.
Don't need any sympathy though. It was a great time! It's just a little mud and rain, and most of us were well prepared. Just not the fools who got stuck trying to drive out
Some super quick and easy research will net a fantastic explanation. From what I hear beyond the shock media, most people had a great time. It was the attendees who couldn't be bothered by a little rain that made a mess.
People are having a fantastic time! Life has become truly adventurous for them. Burning man 2023 was unforgettable say the least.
Making memories, and will do it again next year with an eye on the weather forecast and preparations.
@@canlib for real
Thank you Trent for this humanitarian update. Clearly the wrong place to be for the next few days.
humanitarian? lol
You're all soft.
Nice update. We blasted out of 12 mile Sunday afternoon in a 4x4 Sprinter. It was super sketchy, but also rad.
That was cool to see, a coworker was there and still haven’t heard from him a week later, I hope he made it out