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I’ll be dead by the time they build another MTB trail in the Bay Area
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
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There are a lot of people doing a lot of hard work to advocate for bikes on singletrack in the East Bay Regional parks, but the result of all that hard work and 20+ years of advocacy has been almost nothing, until now.
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Thanks for plugging the bicycle trails counsel, Scott and Austin! They did a ton of work on this program and we really appreciate their efforts. Additionally, we are working on a trail maintenance program to take good care of these trails at briones. We have a proposal in place and it is being reviewed by the parks district now. Wish us luck!
The irony that the birthplace of MTB rejects any MTB trail building.
There are simply too many humans in the bay area at this point.
Crested Butte was the birthplace.
Marin County? I think a big reason public park officials outlaw or have outlawed MTB use is because they have wealthy contributors that DO NOT want to share with the trails with them pesky bike riders, lol
@@gzahnd All of California counties are seeing a decline in population for the last three years. People are fleeing the State due to the Unconstitutional tyrannical foolishness perpetuated by Newsom and other political figures.
@@BlueGoose29 Yep.
MY local trails in the east bay, Pleasanton Ridge/Augustine Bernal are also building, as of now, a single legal trail set to open end of June 2023. The owner of My Buddy's Bike shop in Livermore was a huge part of making this happen. I am really excited for future trails and hopefully adoption of existing trails.
Hey Brian. You'll have to come out to Pleasanton Ridge for our own pilot trail program. The difference here being, it's a pilot program with the city of Pleasanton and not EBRPD, though the city park is surrounded on 3 side by EBRPD land. Official opening day is tentatively June 30th. Like Briones, an existing social trail was converted to a pilot trail. The trail is professionally built and features large berms, jumps & skill lines with a progressive feel. Future funding is being developed to offer maintenance and even allow trail users the opportunity to join in on trail maintenance. My good friend & life long resident of Pleasanton, Chris Beratlis and owner of Livermore's "My buddies bike shop" has been a staunch trail advocate.
That is great to hear! I lived in Livermore for 20 years and mountain biked the area since the late 80's. Would be cool to ride the area again. Still have family and friends out there. Maybe bring my bike out the next time I visit. There is something familiar about the name Chris Beratlis. Thanks for the information.
That sounds awesome!!
@@bkxc Next Fri morning. It'd be great to have you share the ribbon cutting event on your channel.
@jbdbsb Searching around, I can't find any info for this pilot trail program online. Could you please provide a link to it here? Thanks!
That would be great to get more info on this event
Thanks so much for showing this Brian! Not only is it great for advocacy around Mtb’s and purpose built trails, but it’s cool to see the new options we have in the Bay Area documented well. As one of the riders on a local high school team it’s refreshing to see Change, and we all hope more is coming
That's awesome! Super stoked to see the ripple affect from it. Once you have things like this happen it's easier to pitch to other land managers because you can have sucessful projects to reference. I've never ridden that area, looks fun.
Huge kudos to Scott Bartlebaugh and Austin M for doing so much behind the scenes work to make the Briones Pilot Project happen!! Way before this pilot project, they were both working tirelessly to form positive relationships with EBRPD and other trail users. Thank you!
Thanks for highlighting the trail issue on your wonderful channel. And huge thank you to all who help build maintain and create our trails.
We are experiencing the opposite across Australia the last few years. With every council seemingly in a race to try and recreate the commercial successes of first Smithfield, then on a larger scale - Derby.
But one point remains salient. Nothing happens without the tears, determination and thankless efforts of volunteer advocates. So thanks to them all worldwide.
It’s great isn’t it! We have a lot to thank for the success of Derby.
Heading to Smithfield next month after dropping off my daughter at QUT. First time.
Wonderful!
Thanks for presenting this.
I rode Briones ONCE 30 years ago and the hoof pockmarks were so bad, I said "Never again." But that was before suspension AND this new single track. Looks like I'll be back after all!
Shout out to Patrick Demons! Highly knowledgeable about trail design and the guy works hard to keep things moving forward 🤘
Cows are great for fire mitigation.
Grew up just down the road from the Alhambra Creek Staging area. Nice to see these trails finally getting some love.
Also my brother works as a ranger for the EBRP district and we've had our spats about MTB in the parks. but he made a good point, the mission for EBRP is land conservation, not recreation. Recreation comes second to conserving land for wildlife from the sprawling developers of the bay area. Its a 2 year trial, if we do this right and be good stewards on the trail, don't trash the place, don't create new lines, or cause a scene with rangers then we will see more trails opening to MTBers. If not, well then its back to the same old story of loosing access.
Your brother and other rangers should get off their asses and start serving the public. We pay them.
@@rainmaker1461 and we wonder why the public hates mtbers... no idea why. Do you even own property in Contra Costa or Alameda counties? even if you did the amount in taxes that goes to his salary is pennies. If you want you can meet him, he can throw some change at your face and call it even.
The only people who needed to get off their asses were your parents, cause they clearly didn't raise a decent human being. but oh well that ship has sailed. have a good life buddy ol pal.
sorry for feeding the trolls Brian, you're welcome to delete mine and the trolls comments, ill understand.
China Camp is a State Park and has long had positive relationships with runners and MTB's as well as Equestrians. JM park is an awesome example in Oakland hills. I wish we had Redwood Regional park's single track trails.
Great to hear. I left the Bay Area 15+ years ago to head north and lack of trail access was a factor for sure. I feel spoiled now and have my fingers crossed that things are changing for the MTB community there for the better.
That's awesome! My best friend and i have been biking in the Bay for 10 years now and one of the best MTB trails we have done is Oyster Peak trail near the base of Mt Diablo. The Kilkare woods in Pleasanton is also amazing
Wow!!!! Thank you for everyone involved! This is amazing news.
This is soooooo true. So glad we have the trail builders and some of this is slowly changing here in the Bay.
Getting close to 100 million channel views! 🥳
Pretty cool to see some of this stuff get legalized. Nice that you can now actually film this stuff so that I can relive this from the other coast! Thanks for sharing Brian! 🤟😁
YES ON THE COWS!!! Thank you! They destroy even the double track.
SERIOUSLY!!! I remember they made the trails at Crockett brutally painful to ride one time I went...
Yup, never thought I would see new legal Mtb single track in the Bay Area. There is a long ways to go. The downside to Briones is the climbs if you are not on an eMTB. It limits access, which may or may not be a good thing.
Climbs in Briones can be absolutely brutal
the only thing i see wrong with this program is that they open a single trail to mtbers so see how the trail fairs. we then flock to it in droves and beat the hell outta the trail and then they use that agaist us to close off more access. If they opened more traila to spread the load, then this is less likely to happen. I mean look how crazy lime ridge has gotten cause its been the only true trail system in the diablo area that is frendly to mtbers.
Used to ride those trails when I lived there! Moved to Arkansas 7 yrs ago.
Man it’s crazy all these mountains and we don’t have a single bike park? Like crazy
Yup!
thanks for a great SF Bay Area video and sharing several important messages we all need to hear! I really appreciate your energy reasonable perspective!
We’re “fat sick and obese” because of all the processed crap we eat. Exercise is only a fractional part of being fit.
You need ride Limeridge, and Morgan territory in Clayton CA. Hidden trails that only the locals know about on Morgan territory road.
This is amazing! I will definitely check out Briones and support the program!
me checking to see if he holds his thumbs over or under the bars lmao. if you know you know
As soon as I saw this I knew it was Briones. There’s some nice single track tucked away there.
Hopefully this will set an example for other trails in the Bay Area to do the same.
I prefer the term "rogue trail"
Hey it only took 30 years to get 4 trails open and now about 100 "closed for rehabilitation" signs posted throughout. About 30 rogue trail throughout the entire complex and now everyone is shoved into 4 beat down trails. Trying to stay positive, trying to stay positive, trying trying trying.
Luckily I’m surrounded with awesome trails here in Corona Ca. And I do hope the politics towards expanding and freeing up more great places to ride would be a huge plus. Great content 😎🤜🏼🤛🏼
Wow what a nice looking trail. The e-bike tow 🤣
Public Dig Days for the Briones Regional Park on 08/13/2023 from 9:00 am to 2:00 pm. Come. Help.
Lol. Curl of the Burl is an amazong Mastadon song.
My local park is lime ridge and we got permission to build a jump trail
Nice! Are there trail builders building it?
Brian - thanks for posting this!
Yes - the “home” of mountain biking and yet its next to impossible to *MAINTAIN* an existing trail, let alone build a new one!
Sadly, many of our trails are in State parks - which means a lot of red tape just to engage in the discussion! I sincerely hope that the State Park association is willing to partner with the Bay Area Trail groups!
P.S. Say “Hi” to Sara! I hope she’s decompressed now from the Norcal/NICA season! 😊
Looks like a fun trail👍
just rode briones on saturday, was a kick-ass ride! steeeep climbs though!
I also could not find hank & frank for the life of me, the trail names were super confusing, seemed to have 5 different names each!
It’s so frustrating because California is so far behind the rest of the western states. Years ago it joined mountain bikers of Santa Cruz thinking they were going to promote mtb only trails. Unfortunately they have evolved into a construction company and have abandoned mtb trails. At 68 I’m sure nothing will happen while I’m riding but it’s good to see progress somewhere I just wish these trail weren’t 250 miles from my house.
wow great! new trails, awesome bike brian , missed a few videos , what kind of bike
The giant IBIS RIPMO logo on the top tube is a clue
Building new LEGAL DH trail in Augusten-Bernal Park in Pleasanton. Professional builders are up there as we speak. So, I hope you don't die in the next few weeks.
Anyone know the best route to take or find at Briones to hit all the single track I found a route on Trailforks but no clue if it's the best way
Awesome to see them legalizing more trails. Combine that with an e-bike tow and you’ve got a recipe for success.
Reminds me of the old Disney movie buffalo dreams lol
Awesome! next Marin
Finally my home trails
Increasing access while preventing maintenance sounds like the perfect way to create a situation that justifies closing the trails...
What beautiful flow trails and great video! Thanks!! I plan to watch your video again and again with the volume muted and my favorite music dubbed in. The politics of it all detracts from my Happy Space😢
Trails like this are a lot of fun. The technical mountain passes on other videos do not look fun at all.
With the element plug you need to get over to serro gordo
I've been mt biking in the Bay Area since 87, mostly Mt Diablo but hit Briones and Redwood once in a while. Back then the horse people frowned on you even on the fire roads no matter how respectful. Fortunately back then it was rare to even see another person during the week so you could do what you wanted. Never got why cows and horses, which destroy trails were ok but bikes where not. Totally hypocrisy.
Easy, horse people have money, ranchers have even more money and a LOT of political connections.
@@mrvwbug4423 True, the ranchers are a revenue source for the parks that lease them ( I'm assuming) grazing rights.
@@kkcombs622
Briones like most of the EBPD land was owned by cattle ranchers. When they made the deal with the park district a clause was included that gave ranchers grazing rights for something like 100 yrs. Cows will be there screwing up everything every winter unfortunately.
I dirt biked in Briones in the 70’s as well as Lime Ridge and other then the old guy at Lime Ridge with the shotgun and salt nobody ever cared. All the trails at Lime were either dirt bike or BMX made long before MTB.
My California high desert lands I ride is mostly open land that's privately owned so all trails are not technically legal but the police don't enforce trespassing on these lands. Now one individual just bought 10 acres and began barbed wire fencing it in . Very scary having a string of barbed wire in a trail you can barely see . We did a work around the area the last few days . Making a desert trail is fairly easy and requires few tools . I did a whole section with my feet scraping the ground . So the problem with trails not authorized you never know what obstacles that can show up so putting the pedal to the metal may not be a good idea like being decapitated by barbed wire . People shooting guns and off road vehicles popping into your field of vision . It truly is the wild west at times .
enjoy watching here, From Philippines
BK for MTB president 2024
Damn your singletrack looks good 🔥
Aye my home town!
Right on Joel!!!👍🏾
Sooo epik awesome beautiful treil
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Many of those trails were built by guys in their fifties!
Hear, hear... harrumph, harrumph!
great, but what is the reason for the restrictive policy? are they afraid of damage?
I have dreams of Marin becoming the Bentonville of California - a fully equiped network of designated bike freeways and xc singletrack that connect an array of lift accessed downhill parks. Plus the addition of mountaintop pubs, trailside cafes, and service/repair stands a plenty. Northern Marin might be keen, maybe a joint effort between San Rafael/Fairfax and Novato...?
Good luck with that. In Marin you have an overwhelmingly strong anti-development populous, and the money to back it. In Bentonville, you have a ton of money and overwhelmingly pro-trail-development mentality - and a community vibe that is totally in favor of it. Nearly opposite local mindsets.
@@gzahnd totally agree but there are a lot of dentists/finance bros living/riding $10k bikes all around Marin so the money could fall on our side (at least eventually). I feel like northern Marin might have a different mindset too - the demographics of Novato is in stark contrast to southern Marin. Fairfax would be supportive. Most of the land between the two is held by a small group of private landowners which could be good or bad (private land carries less red tape and is potentially easier to convince than govt land mgmt). Likely to always be a dream but dream I will. Looking forward to seeing Everstoke become a reality and example of the good that can come from this type of development.
@@kirkwoodbharris5110 It would be amazing for sure, but I think there are too many forces against it at this point, including the city/county/regional governments.
The 2 year test run but without any shovel or repair seems skewed frankly. Briones seems like a lonely place and few hikers going way out to where MTB riders often venture. I ran out there a few times the last 10 or so years, but looking at the two single track, I ought to ride it before it gets closed off. Any excuse to try a new trail right?
Cows and horses, pugging up the ground and pooing everywhere, fouling up the waterways too.
I wanna ride with you bro❤❤
How tall are you and what size Ripmo?? I’m right in the middle of L and XL. Only 1” wheelbase difference so I probably can’t go wrong either way, but am leaning toward the L with some higher rise bars.
Came here to say that sussy/tire set up sounds DIALED😅
Ive always liked Martinez and just another reason to like it. Any city that doesn't embrace mountain biking has some deeper issues. Just my opinion.
Martinez doesn't own this land, its East Bay Regional Park that owns the land.
I don’t understand the resistance to mountain bike trails on public lands. It’s one of the least invasive ways the public can enjoy their lands. Otherwise, it seems like “public lands” are actually being “protected” from the public and only permitted to be enjoyed by a select few stewards.
Alot of the past reluctance to allow mtb in regional parks is historical, based on past uses. EBRPD's primary focus is conservation not recreation. But after seeing that mtb'ers could be good stewards of the land (e.g. Crockett) EBRPD has changed their minds. Also, less than 10 yrs ago, the average age of the EBRPD Board was about 78 yrs -- mtb was still a new radical thing for them.
does the "bench trail" go by another name? I don't see that on trailforks. Thanks
Hmm, I'm not sure!
I rode that same route you call the bench trail in the video. That is actually what trailforks calls the lagoon trail and EB parks calls PB7. The bench trail runs perpendicularly and is hiker only.
Are standing/squatting the whole time going down?
How do they think the trails will remain sustainable with multi use traffic if you can't do trail maintenance, repair, and improvements? I like the project in theory, but it seems set up to fail. It is typical old school environmental activism and $ from special interest groups. OH is still like that. There are no shared use trails where bikes can go. I still ride my hiking trails... way better than the mtb trails around me.
There’s things happening in the background to address the maintenance issue. Fingers crossed.
Exactly! Can’t maintain trails. “Oh look how destructive mountain bikes are! Ban them!”
@@DPCPhotos Yeah I suspect a trails org is in the works. Allowing maintenance is easier when volunteer groups are willing to do it for free.
Hey Brian. How loose and what cleats are you running with your pedals? Love your channel, thanks!
PLEASE COME TO ANNADEL AGAIN!!!
agreed! good riding and friendly riders and a fair amount of trails to cover!
@@emeryrowand2903 it's got even more poison oak than the east bay though 😆
2:30 , not being able to maintain trails is a great way for other user groups to point out how much erosion and destruction mountain bikers cause.
It also show you the little damage mountain bikers do, if you don't maintain it the path disappears.
They wish to blame MTB'ers for damages, perpetrating this pristine wilderness idea in people's gullible minds. Yet, a "pristine untouched wilderness" is no good for anyone who CAN'T USE IT or SEE IT. It might be better for some species of animals to have a pristine untouched wilderness, but it's besides the point that proper land management requires mankind to interact with land in a meaningful way, to benefit one's fellow man and also benefit animal species on that land. It's why in many places in Africa, after implementing the USA's conservation programs for their land, many animals were brought back from extinction to a status of thriving, many indigenous people were brought from the status of starvation to having plenty of animal protein meat and also good paying occupations that didn't exist, and the land itself is getting top soil rebuilt due to increase wildlife traffic, excrement, and fertilization.
It requires mankind to USE LAND APPROPRIATELY. These crazy politicians think that man should be banished from land and kept from animals for land to remain "pristine." It's hogwash.
Sweet
California truly is a conundrum. It's the original home of mountain biking and has amazing mountains, but not a lot of legal trails. On one hand, it's very over regulated, and it's hard to get something simple like trails on public land. On the other hand, it's functional anarchy, and you can smash car windows or open a drug market in the Tenderloin or Lake Merritt and get away with it.
Pacifica is pretty gnarly but i guess its illegal?
The problem with California in my view is that there are a lot of older richer folks who want their towns unchanged. We MTBers are a small but dedicated group of people and we should fight the NIMBYs just like how tenacious they are. On the brighter side, in Bay Area it varies region by region. For example, Skeggs got a new Oljon Trail a few years ago and it’s been very popular and Pacifica is getting better. Even some very local Laurelwood trails have been improved. But generally I agree that the park org are slow to respond to MTBers. Different land ownerships, NIMBYism, representations and existing laws are the obstacles.
They don't want people with shovels because having a shovel doesn't mean you know what you're doing.
Time to move to Bentonville permanently. It's a beautiful thing when people and city governments are on the same page to produce a world-class mountain bike destination.
come back to australia brian
Will the Pinehurst / Dark Side lines get sanctioned by EBRP and EBMUD next
Unfortunately probably never, because EBMUD has even more restrictions given its watershed protections
I'm not very surprised at the lack of trail building in populated areas. Seems like building has really stalled out in some places where it should be booming...it has gotten way too bureaucratic imo. Need to encourage building by riders rather than organizations.
Surprised mopeds/ e-bikes allowed?
If you think MTB folks got it bad, try trail riding a dirt bike in most of the state.
I wanna know what e-bike that was 😭
Just be cautious on eMTB in East Bay Regional Parks. They’re not really allowed anywhere.
Love the downhills but where is the workout as compared to road cycling ?
They do the same shit for us snowmobiliers. And everything we ride literally is invisible/completely gone come snowmelt. CA is ridiculous, they'll make up some bs excuse about some frog that's endangered. I'm glad to see a step in the right direction finally here in my home.
What type of bike do you use? Mountain bike, or like a BMX off-road dirt jumper bike?
Lol they finally made it legal
Lo and behold, the kind of stuff that happens when the worst kind of people are in government offices.
Henry Coe state park east of morgan hill ca. Is the bomb. Its called mtn biking for a reason.
FITNESS is required climbing.
Earn your turns.
SPECIALIZED BIKES are ar still based i Morgan Hill.
HENRY COE has super tech single-track, steep fire roads..
Everything needed as a testing ground for Specialized bikes.
Diablo range but steep steep headwaters of Coyote creek..
Check it out... get teady to suffer.
NO SHUTTLES
EARN IT..
THATS WHAT MTB IS ALL ABOUT
Tick heaven WARNING
been riding briones for 30 years. never once got a tick there.