I had a few of thoughts upon reading his warscroll: (i) He's an Underworld's Warband that looks like it has actual play. Obviously we won't know for certain until the full Gitz release, but he seems good. (ii) He is one hench git. He hits (basically) as hard as a Knight-Questor. Sure, Stormcast heroes don't actually hit that hard in the grand scheme of things, but the idea that some random git hits as hard as a Knight-Questor just seems weird to me. (iii) He's surprisingly survivable: 6 wounds on a 4+ isn't amazing, but he has a 3+ bodyguard save with 12 ablative wounds (theoretically enough to give him his full, expected, 18 effective wounds) and if he outlasts his toadies he still has a 6+ ward to fall back on. (iv) If Skragrott doesn't get a pretty big glow up, there's a new Loonking in town. Now to watch your video.
Very helpful analysis. I was thinking of just running him as a Madcap Shaman, but now I'm eager to try him out proper. One thing about his synergy with squig cavalry--I don't see the random movement as being that much of a penalty in that case, because you would need Grinkrak to keep up with them to be in 3" range, and he only has a 5" move. Unless you invest in the Hand of Gork, a Grinkrak strategy will be centered around a castle of some kind.
I think it's gonna be a challenge to get into that 3" range at the start of the combat phase to use his ability. One of the best tools that squigs have is the run and charge buff under the moon light and this guy is not gonna be able to keep up. Having said that, I think that he can be really useful with max units of Squig Herd. They are slow enough for him to keep up, they are squishy enough (specially being GVs) to make use of his ability and hit hard enough to be a problem. Of course that's 190 points + 420 of the herd so they have to do some work. I'm curious to see if the 4+ rally and this "attack on death" abilities will be a common thing in the new incoming book. I hope that the 4+ Rally goes away, because it has the potential to become extremely toxic and I don't want our goblins to become what the old Pink Horrors used to be :P But in the other hand, that "attack on death" goes super well with the theme of the squigs.
Ok so it seems like I can take Grimkrack and hiz loon court and run them up the field to there objective to get in to place and get there buff. Then one my opponent moves to charge me, release my fanatics that I hid in the loon court dub them, and now my opponents get to to sod off or change in and get double taped by fanatics? I mean fanatics fight first, just melt on the swing back, and then fight on death. Seems good.
good ideas! do you have any plans to do an updated "thoughts on gitz" list building video?? since the new book came out and kinda changed how some of the units work
The Looncourt was an instant preorder for me! Though while I love the idea for using him in my lists, I could see it being troublesome for Squig cavalries simply because he'll always get outran by the squigs (unless you Hand of Gork them). Respectfully though, I disagree with him not being good with Stabbas, in fact he's perfect for them. Having two blocks of Stabbas and getting one buffed by Snufflers + Sporesplattas, then deciding to divert your Loonboss and Grinkrak's buffs on either Stabbas make them amazing! Fight first with your Loonboss-buffed Stabbas, then when your opponent kills the Grinkrak-buffed Stabbas, they can still hit back. If it's your opponent's turn, you could definitely have Grinkrak buff the block with the Snuffler/Sporesplatta buff, because it scares your opponent in attacking it but if they don't kill it soon they'll be a constant threat in the board with all the buffs. Bonus points if you have a Moonface Mommet or a Purple Sun for the rend too! But I really like the idea of using them with a Mangler Squig, it will definitely benefit from Grinkrak. Amazing video!
That's great! I always struggled with my Squignos list charging two things at once. now i can start with the manglersquig (into high damage unit) and go second with kragnos (into more tanky unit/monster) realisticly killing both of them. A question: Is it possible to rally brought back units from the loonshrine on a 4+? or is their new max unit size halfed aswell?
Wait, so the ability "I dub thee" allows us to fight twice with any models that die during combat? For instance, we activate a unit of hoppers, attack with them, then later in combat if any of them die, we activate them again? Same goes for manglers for instance? As long as manglers die we can fight again? (Reminds me of megaboss on foot dead fighty btw).
i disargee with ur assement on stabbas/shootas (always shootas above stabbas) but do argee that this unit is nutty with focus on mangler squig, loonsmashas and buffed shootas it also provides defence since i gloomspite gitz power in combat to be quite high but the downfall is defence this is a detterent to the opernant no longer can they go ''okay its my turn i can 60 damage to those shootas and wont take anything back in return but will argee to this no one wants to paint 140 shootas and 15/5 loon/spore fanatics lol .
I had a few of thoughts upon reading his warscroll:
(i) He's an Underworld's Warband that looks like it has actual play. Obviously we won't know for certain until the full Gitz release, but he seems good.
(ii) He is one hench git. He hits (basically) as hard as a Knight-Questor. Sure, Stormcast heroes don't actually hit that hard in the grand scheme of things, but the idea that some random git hits as hard as a Knight-Questor just seems weird to me.
(iii) He's surprisingly survivable: 6 wounds on a 4+ isn't amazing, but he has a 3+ bodyguard save with 12 ablative wounds (theoretically enough to give him his full, expected, 18 effective wounds) and if he outlasts his toadies he still has a 6+ ward to fall back on.
(iv) If Skragrott doesn't get a pretty big glow up, there's a new Loonking in town.
Now to watch your video.
Very helpful analysis. I was thinking of just running him as a Madcap Shaman, but now I'm eager to try him out proper. One thing about his synergy with squig cavalry--I don't see the random movement as being that much of a penalty in that case, because you would need Grinkrak to keep up with them to be in 3" range, and he only has a 5" move. Unless you invest in the Hand of Gork, a Grinkrak strategy will be centered around a castle of some kind.
I think it's gonna be a challenge to get into that 3" range at the start of the combat phase to use his ability. One of the best tools that squigs have is the run and charge buff under the moon light and this guy is not gonna be able to keep up. Having said that, I think that he can be really useful with max units of Squig Herd. They are slow enough for him to keep up, they are squishy enough (specially being GVs) to make use of his ability and hit hard enough to be a problem. Of course that's 190 points + 420 of the herd so they have to do some work.
I'm curious to see if the 4+ rally and this "attack on death" abilities will be a common thing in the new incoming book. I hope that the 4+ Rally goes away, because it has the potential to become extremely toxic and I don't want our goblins to become what the old Pink Horrors used to be :P But in the other hand, that "attack on death" goes super well with the theme of the squigs.
Commenting to say I miss your content, hope to see more videos from you in the future. Would love to hear your opinions on Skaven for this season.
Ok so it seems like I can take Grimkrack and hiz loon court and run them up the field to there objective to get in to place and get there buff. Then one my opponent moves to charge me, release my fanatics that I hid in the loon court dub them, and now my opponents get to to sod off or change in and get double taped by fanatics? I mean fanatics fight first, just melt on the swing back, and then fight on death. Seems good.
Gloomspite are my new army this year and just ordered these guys. Keen to see how they go. Also pumped for cancon.
Twitter worked! I’m glad you decided on Gitz for Cancon
Helpful video Stuart! Cannot wait to fight on death and the new tome cannot come sooner.
Thanks so much for the advice, great video!
good ideas! do you have any plans to do an updated "thoughts on gitz" list building video?? since the new book came out and kinda changed how some of the units work
The Looncourt was an instant preorder for me! Though while I love the idea for using him in my lists, I could see it being troublesome for Squig cavalries simply because he'll always get outran by the squigs (unless you Hand of Gork them). Respectfully though, I disagree with him not being good with Stabbas, in fact he's perfect for them.
Having two blocks of Stabbas and getting one buffed by Snufflers + Sporesplattas, then deciding to divert your Loonboss and Grinkrak's buffs on either Stabbas make them amazing! Fight first with your Loonboss-buffed Stabbas, then when your opponent kills the Grinkrak-buffed Stabbas, they can still hit back. If it's your opponent's turn, you could definitely have Grinkrak buff the block with the Snuffler/Sporesplatta buff, because it scares your opponent in attacking it but if they don't kill it soon they'll be a constant threat in the board with all the buffs. Bonus points if you have a Moonface Mommet or a Purple Sun for the rend too!
But I really like the idea of using them with a Mangler Squig, it will definitely benefit from Grinkrak. Amazing video!
That's great! I always struggled with my Squignos list charging two things at once. now i can start with the manglersquig (into high damage unit) and go second with kragnos (into more tanky unit/monster) realisticly killing both of them. A question: Is it possible to rally brought back units from the loonshrine on a 4+? or is their new max unit size halfed aswell?
Huzzah and hello ,, thank you for this. I'm trying to learn how to field the spiderfang part of gloomspite gitz. Do you mess with them any?
Wait, so the ability "I dub thee" allows us to fight twice with any models that die during combat? For instance, we activate a unit of hoppers, attack with them, then later in combat if any of them die, we activate them again? Same goes for manglers for instance? As long as manglers die we can fight again? (Reminds me of megaboss on foot dead fighty btw).
Dub thee.. 2 inches away from a defensive line of Loonsmasha Fanatics ! just sweep almost everything
Hooray Nurgle
okay
what do you think about the new ghb and gits?
Is this not 190 points + grinkraks 200p?
i disargee with ur assement on stabbas/shootas (always shootas above stabbas) but do argee that this unit is nutty with focus on mangler squig, loonsmashas and buffed shootas it also provides defence since i gloomspite gitz power in combat to be quite high but the downfall is defence this is a detterent to the opernant no longer can they go ''okay its my turn i can 60 damage to those shootas and wont take anything back in return but will argee to this no one wants to paint 140 shootas and 15/5 loon/spore fanatics lol .