TBS just solved a problem that didn't exist in the first place. In fact, I don't even know what problem they are solving here. I really can't see the point of all these adapter plates just to mount a nonstandard stack mount. To be honest, I actually hope that frame manufacturers don't adopt this. It's like when iFlight released that 2005 motor with nonstandard Tmount screw spacing.
@@cubefpv Trappy said that in testing this design was better for electrical flow. I think he said they were able to pull 200 amps through it (I could be wrong about the number, but it was high) only time will tell 🤷
They claim it's for better mosfet routing to allow for more current in this form factor, but to be honest it's a load of bull when we have plenty of 20x20 ESCs that can deliver more than 70x4 amps all day any day. As you have already pointed out they turned a non - issue into a problem for them to solve and the TBS fanboys will call that "innovation".
@@Karolk64 I still bought one. If it does turn out to be better than anything else then I will run it 🤷. Been running Foxeer and Tmotor stacks so yeah, it'll be tough to beat them 😎
@@Karolk64 Yes agree. TBS states " ...innovative mounting brackets which avoid the complication of having to run mounting bolts through the middle of the ESC" Apparently something that every other manufacturer can do, is seen as "problematic" by TBS. So instead of solving the problem themselves, they simply put the onus on frame manufacturers and the end user to install these mounting brackets. You just gotta laugh.
@cubefpv Other manufacturers are suffering extra noise and performance loss which is fact. If you don't notice the performance hit then cool. Racers are slaughtering their ESCs so I'm willing to try it.
On the new FOx Crooked and Pro batch you can mount the esc on the bottom without any adapters and the fc on the top plate so you dont need the metal frame
I am currently using these ESCs on my Fox V1s. Just drilled 4 holes with dremel. Great form factor and durability. Tried using the Lucid PRO FC, but I get stange gyro noise on pitch and yaw. Moved back to Foxeer F7 Mini V4. Also its taller than Foxeer, so less clearance between ESC and FC.
If this leads to easier designing processes lowering R&D costs per ESC, it'll be worth it. Its just four M2 holes, you can countersink on the bottom, so it doesn't even interfere with any arm.
It will be easy for larger freestyle frames to simply drill a couple more holes to accommodate this and 30x30 and 20x20. Thanks for sharing your experience with this! I've been looking forward to hearing more about it.
It’s lighter and the layout of the ESC is more compact. So it doesn’t stick out, less chance of getting damaged. Also, it’s a cleaner layout. That’s what I got from watching the video.
I run combo of Gemcan MCK 2, HQ Headsup, and Dal Cylcone V2 (whichever is on sale when i order). Headsup has most control, gemfan has nice speed, and the cyclone is a good middle ground, and ive ran a few hundred sets. They are also a little stiffer, which makes them easier to bounce/bend back at our night spot.
That looks like a real nice FC for racing. Having a space for an ELRS receiver and all the plugs on one side is really going to help with keeping the height low and solving the age-old receiver mounting problem. F4 is a bit of a miss, makes the Pro version redundant in my opinion. At $40 I would buy this FC if I broke one tomorrow. The ESC however is a total joke, and eliminates all the height gains you've made with the FC, to the point where the example build doesn't even fit together lol. Why. Plus it's all hard mounted.
😂 plz explain how Crossfire/Tracer RXes have a different mounting pattern than ExpressLRS (they're the same by design). Also this gorilla mount is insane because it takes more space vertically thanks to the required adapter-- who wants to add longer standoffs to make the same stuff fit? Also, $10 premium for MPU6000 lols.
the EP1, RP1, and others sometimes have different wiring orders, and they dont typically use the same holes that TBS receivers use to allow pinned install. I do agree it is a bit more space vertically which can make it tight in some frames.
@@JonE5FPV You may want to recheck into that statement, because the pin order and pin spacing is standardized on all ExpressLRS receivers: 2.54mm spacing, RX/TX/5V/GND. Of course, some receivers can be wider than a standard Crossfire Nano, but they all will probably fit using the same mount (4 pin pinheader) a TBS RX would. Maybe not all the True Diversity receivers tho.
Hey thanks for the video and review of the TBS Lucid. I'm not sold, I don't like the mounting arrangement, I don't use a 30X30 esc with a 20X20 F.C, and I use bolts through the stack, not standoffs. My go-to stack is a Holybro stack for $90. So I'll pass
I’m still waiting on their crossfire diversity nano RX with the 500mw telemetry. They’ve been promising that for years….first they blamed the chip shortage from the Covid era, and now…laziness.
Nice! I had not heard of that one yet. Cool to see more people adopt it. Are you really able to fly drones in UK? Ash from Velocidrone said weather is bad and he isnt able to fly Tiny Trainer due to the bad weather the last 26 months.
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TBS just solved a problem that didn't exist in the first place. In fact, I don't even know what problem they are solving here. I really can't see the point of all these adapter plates just to mount a nonstandard stack mount. To be honest, I actually hope that frame manufacturers don't adopt this. It's like when iFlight released that 2005 motor with nonstandard Tmount screw spacing.
@@cubefpv Trappy said that in testing this design was better for electrical flow. I think he said they were able to pull 200 amps through it (I could be wrong about the number, but it was high) only time will tell 🤷
They claim it's for better mosfet routing to allow for more current in this form factor, but to be honest it's a load of bull when we have plenty of 20x20 ESCs that can deliver more than 70x4 amps all day any day. As you have already pointed out they turned a non - issue into a problem for them to solve and the TBS fanboys will call that "innovation".
@@Karolk64 I still bought one. If it does turn out to be better than anything else then I will run it 🤷. Been running Foxeer and Tmotor stacks so yeah, it'll be tough to beat them 😎
@@Karolk64 Yes agree. TBS states " ...innovative mounting brackets which avoid the complication of having to run mounting bolts through the middle of the ESC" Apparently something that every other manufacturer can do, is seen as "problematic" by TBS. So instead of solving the problem themselves, they simply put the onus on frame manufacturers and the end user to install these mounting brackets. You just gotta laugh.
@cubefpv Other manufacturers are suffering extra noise and performance loss which is fact. If you don't notice the performance hit then cool. Racers are slaughtering their ESCs so I'm willing to try it.
On the new FOx Crooked and Pro batch you can mount the esc on the bottom without any adapters and the fc on the top plate so you dont need the metal frame
I am currently using these ESCs on my Fox V1s. Just drilled 4 holes with dremel. Great form factor and durability. Tried using the Lucid PRO FC, but I get stange gyro noise on pitch and yaw. Moved back to Foxeer F7 Mini V4. Also its taller than Foxeer, so less clearance between ESC and FC.
Yes absolutely lets make it even more complicated. What not.
If this leads to easier designing processes lowering R&D costs per ESC, it'll be worth it.
Its just four M2 holes, you can countersink on the bottom, so it doesn't even interfere with any arm.
Also the fox crooked is compatible with lucid!
TBS makes modern cool looking products 😃
It will be easy for larger freestyle frames to simply drill a couple more holes to accommodate this and 30x30 and 20x20. Thanks for sharing your experience with this! I've been looking forward to hearing more about it.
what kind of problem does this mount solve?
It’s lighter and the layout of the ESC is more compact. So it doesn’t stick out, less chance of getting damaged. Also, it’s a cleaner layout. That’s what I got from watching the video.
@@marmachulit was weighed in the video 🤦♂️. The bracket was only a couple of grams. Watch the video.
Nice review. AddictiveRC in Arizona has both these new stacks in stock.
Also It's not cheap, it is pretty regular price for stack with at mcus on both esc and fc.
Not finding that at all. All the high end racing stacks being used (Foxeer, T motor, hobbywing, Rush) are $140-190 for FC+ESC.
@@JonE5FPVSkystars 20x20 55a am32 f722 stack is like 80-100 so pretty much the same
the only TBS products I own are 2 antennas I received in a monthly drone box.
JonE5 what Dal Props are you running? they look kinda like mini 7" street league Props. would like to try these.
I run combo of Gemcan MCK 2, HQ Headsup, and Dal Cylcone V2 (whichever is on sale when i order).
Headsup has most control, gemfan has nice speed, and the cyclone is a good middle ground, and ive ran a few hundred sets. They are also a little stiffer, which makes them easier to bounce/bend back at our night spot.
That looks like a real nice FC for racing. Having a space for an ELRS receiver and all the plugs on one side is really going to help with keeping the height low and solving the age-old receiver mounting problem. F4 is a bit of a miss, makes the Pro version redundant in my opinion. At $40 I would buy this FC if I broke one tomorrow.
The ESC however is a total joke, and eliminates all the height gains you've made with the FC, to the point where the example build doesn't even fit together lol. Why. Plus it's all hard mounted.
this only 90 doll stack look nice, but absolutely weird. hope can be mount in 5 inch most popular frames. thanks for the video!
Geordil on point with the Jersey ;)
😂 plz explain how Crossfire/Tracer RXes have a different mounting pattern than ExpressLRS (they're the same by design). Also this gorilla mount is insane because it takes more space vertically thanks to the required adapter-- who wants to add longer standoffs to make the same stuff fit? Also, $10 premium for MPU6000 lols.
the EP1, RP1, and others sometimes have different wiring orders, and they dont typically use the same holes that TBS receivers use to allow pinned install. I do agree it is a bit more space vertically which can make it tight in some frames.
@@JonE5FPV You may want to recheck into that statement, because the pin order and pin spacing is standardized on all ExpressLRS receivers: 2.54mm spacing, RX/TX/5V/GND. Of course, some receivers can be wider than a standard Crossfire Nano, but they all will probably fit using the same mount (4 pin pinheader) a TBS RX would. Maybe not all the True Diversity receivers tho.
Hey thanks for the video and review of the TBS Lucid. I'm not sold, I don't like the mounting arrangement, I don't use a 30X30 esc with a 20X20 F.C, and I use bolts through the stack, not standoffs. My go-to stack is a Holybro stack for $90. So I'll pass
the little plate is for heat absorbing
I've always wondered whether there was a more optimal mounting pattern in terms of electronic layout, seeing as 30x30 etc has been around forever?
What about freestyle and you may can plastic dip the ends or the whole aluminium piece so you don’t have that issue with shorting out your ESC
Awesome flying and review, Jon! 😃
But I don't know... I find their lack of standards disturbing. 🤨
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
thanks so much MC! stay safe
would be flawless if the mounting was 20x20 😢
there is a 20x20 option
@@RCRitterFPV not for the esc I can’t find it on the tbs website only 20x20 adapter
@@dylanmeaney4872 I bought 2 of them from Pyro... 30x30 Gorilla mount.. $3
Just ordered one 😎
They made it holeless for between current handling
i have one that accept teh gorrila mount, also dotg croquette v2 accepts it
I’m still waiting on their crossfire diversity nano RX with the 500mw telemetry. They’ve been promising that for years….first they blamed the chip shortage from the Covid era, and now…laziness.
90 bucks plus five motors is not cheaper at all.
I heard Trappy say he went with Gorilla mounting for better rooting for the fets for more efficiency and durability! Love it Jon E5 My man!
I’ll stop watching your videos when you stop saying 'plethora' 🤣😂🤣 I looove your reviews !
lol, man thanks. I used to include those clips because it entertained me and made me chuckle. So cool to hear when people actually enjoy them too.
We have a small company called Frame X in the UK who made the first drone for the mount a few months ago. its cut for this mount.
Nice! I had not heard of that one yet. Cool to see more people adopt it.
Are you really able to fly drones in UK? Ash from Velocidrone said weather is bad and he isnt able to fly Tiny Trainer due to the bad weather the last 26 months.
@@JonE5FPV its been crap weather but ive been flying all year 😎
Second!
First!
nice! Got the hole shot!
Sorry, pointless