It's not THAT dangerous as long as you're super careful and experienced with chemistry. Most of these chemicals aren't actively fuming out toxic gases like acids.
For those that are into cooking, that TCS is an immersion circulator. Also often used for culinary applications. That means there are also lots of alternative and possibly cheaper brands.
Quick tip for the peeps out there: if you use glass storage bottles it takes longer to get up to temperature, but then they maintain the temperature better. Plastic bottles are the opposite. Neither is better than the other, just personal preference
Quick tip that I learned that wasn't talked about in the video but can save your future rolls - use your finger to hold the rotating cover when pouring the chemicals out. It can become loose very easily during agitation and can open up when pouring your chemicals out and expose your film before it's fixed! I learned the hard way
That 1000 pack of rubber bands comes in handy...until I got a tank with a screw top I made sure to put it on my older one so the air inside doesn't ICBM launch the lid into the great beyond from thermal expansion (like the water heater on Myth busters.)
Great vid Willem, Just one thing for the people out there. After every inversion cycle: tap your tank on the counter to prevent bubbles sticking on your film. I can tell from experience that its really shitty when you have bubble marks on your photos.
Great video! One thing I'd recommend, if you have a Fitbit or watch with luminous dial, take it off when your arms are in the changing bag. My Fitbit turned on while in my bag, and I'm pretty sure it fogged my film a bit.
I bought your lessons this morning. They're fantastic. I shot 4 films in the last 3 months but I learnt by myself and this lessons taught me a lot more about film photography. I loved them, worth every single euro that I've spent. Greetings from Italy!
You’ve come a long way in terms of production value, subject matter and skill. Extremely happy to see you thriving and im looking forward to more content!
4:55 "It's super important at this point to wear gloves and some kind of respirator, because this chemicals are not good for you" ah, I see. So that's DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO kind of tutorial :D
@@MakeSomethinghave you done direct comparisons? did you print under enlarger? How did you deduce that it's perfect? thermostatic systems are required for color development and printing
Great video as always!!! As someone who develops my own film I have to say that it’s super fun, makes getting your photos back that much more rewarding, and saves you so much money! If you’re thinking about doing it yourself, GO FOR IT!!
My apple watch gave me a notification for this and I thought I was stuck in a parallel universe for a second where the original edition of this was just coming out. Whew.
2018 Willem: I’m using a thermometer that isn’t waterproof cause it’s the only one they had left at the store 2021 Willem: Here’s a full temperature control system that is so badass. The first tutorial gave me the confidence to develop color at home and I’m beyond stoked to see a follow up because there’s always something new to learn!
I used to develope B&W back in the nineties but never colour, but I'm using film again after 20 years of digital and high prices with no control over the developement process means this could be the way to go. Thanks a ton.!
Love seeing more people doing home devs here. FWIW, I've been using the Kodak FlexiColor C41 chemistry in small-batch mixes and a cheap ebay Sous vide works as well as a red one.
Killer video as always Willem! I’ve been a little scared to develop color as I’ve only developed black and white, but this video inspired me to do it! :) might have to film it for my channel too! I’m already excited for the next upload!!
Worth noting the temperature control system is just a re-badged "sous vide" machine. You may already have one, been wanting one for cooking, or you can pick them up cheap on amazon.
Nice video spent 40 years shooting with twin lens camera till my old age lol Always looked for apartments with no bathroom window Keep up with the good work Nice to see young ppl Still shoot film
Can you compare at home versus lab - just the development and scanned at home, and developed at home, scanned at lab, and then both at the lab and both at home. Preferably same camera, same film, same scenes. I really really wanna see some "benchmarks" like is it even worth using lab services or you're better of on your own.
Ahhh I finally need to try this out! So far I've always sent my film off to a lab, but I assume self developing my photos would give them a whole new level of special worth🤔🙌🏼
I highly recommend using kodak photoflo instead of the given stabilizer, the difference was actually insane and one bottle of photoflo last years because you only need 5ml per liter or so of water
I learnt how to do this whole process at school before digital cameras existed, but I only ever did black and white film. I didn’t realise coloured film developing is the exact same process.
I'd recommend softly hitting the table with kaiser tank few times once you stop agitating to get rid of the small air bubbles that might be on the film itself.
I've watched your first video and have been considering trying this, wasn't expecting to get teased again. BTW, it would have been cool if you had taken some, for example, already processed film and demoed how the reels work outside the bag, it's something a lot of these tutorials leave out
Should try and upgrade to steel reels and tanks! Patterson reels always crinkle my film especially in hotter and more humid places. Takes a little more practice to load the reels, but once you get it, it becomes 10x easier!
I can smell this video takes me back to 2001/2003 the darkroom in my high school photography class. Haven’t developed any film since but enjoyed the video!
I wrapped a glass jar with black duct tape, pour in developer and just dunked the entire roll in there.... worked wonders until I tried a 24 exposure color roll and it doesn't have as much tension as the 36 and whole thing is ruined...
Oh also - the temp control system works exactly like a sous vide which is great for cooking! So if you like cooking too that will work as a two for one!
Damn Willem, I’m releasing a video about the same topic on Friday geared more towards beginners. Now everyone’s gonna think I’m copying you. Sick video though, love you man. 😂
One plus about that temp controller is you can sous vide some delicious food while you are developing! lol. I bought an Anova unit to do what you are doing in the video. Takes the headache out of temp control. Thanks for including that in your video.
ECN-2 film can also be developed with C41 chemicals. You need to remove the protective backing first though. E-6 color positives (dia) can also be developed to color negatives if you’re feeling adventurous. C22 film is not compatible. The higher temperature of C41 destroys the emulsion. Also the chemicals are not compatible from what I know. But C22 can be processed to B/W film.
Thanks for uploading! At around 6:15 you mentioned checking the spools were the right way - but then you disassembled them and put them in the bag. And then proceeded to put the film on the reels inside the bag .. but how do you do this?? What's going on in there?
Thanks for the video. I bought a Lot (a box with a bunch of nearly useless crap in it) at an auction several years back that contained about 15 Kodak canisters of film. I got tired of looking at them and was ready to throw them out and thought, eh, I could just throw out the film and use the all yellow metal canisters for something. Then I thought, heck, I'll do a little research, maybe the film is worth something on ebay. After doing some research I realized that the film wasn't new, it was used and that these particular kinds of film (Plus-X PX 135) was discontinued in 1969. That was an eye opener. Heck, I could have previously unknown Woodstock photo's. Kaching. That's why I'm here researching how to develop my own. Can't really see entrusting previously unknown photos of the JFK assassination to some other film developer. Thanks.
I just ordered the Cinestill Temperature control system after watching the video. Maintaining the correct temp for my chemicals is my biggest complaint with developing film at home. I’m looking forward to giving it a try.
Loading the film onto the spools in the dark is something you'll need to practice several times with spent film until you can do it with confidence in the changing bag
I really thought it'd be way more complicated than this! we don't develop colour at my university so i just assumed it was really annoying but it literally seems the same as b&w just being more mindful of temperature
This is an inspiring video! I just may have to give it a go. Not much space here but if i move some stuff around in the kitchen and send the wife out for awhile, HA HA, I might be okay.
Lets be real here, the "Cinestill Temperature Control System" is just a sous vide stick that is used in kitchens. So you can just as easy buy one of those, instead of paying extra for a Cinestill logo
I was able to get consistently good color negatives by using the microwave oven and a digital meat thermometer. Start with 35 seconds at 1100 watts an then do 3 to four seconds until you get to 102 degrees fahrenheit...if you overshoot it, get a fold top sandwich bag and put an ice cube in it and dip it in the developer while looking at the thermometer reading. The film is in the developer for only 3-1/2 minutes so it doesn't change much. It goes without saying that you should throw away the bag/ice cube combination when you are done. And if you are doing C-41 film in positive, use caffenol as the first developer and not ascorbic Acid, as ascorbic Acid destroys the color information. Then the second development is done to completion for 16 minutes and don't mess with the temperature once you get it at 102 F.
I let my grandson borrow my camera to take pictures at a wedding and they told me they knew how to take the film out of the camera but now they said they made a room dark and opened my camera and felt that the film was ripped inside and closed it back. I can not find anyone around with a dark room and my experience with developing film has been many years ago but after watching your video I just might do it myself
I remember going into the dark room of the Nordlys newspaper in Tromsø, Norway, where long-time journalist Svenn A. “Svenna” Nielsen showed me the ropes. He said that sometimes when he couldn't find gloves in time for the deadline, he'd simply mix the chems without them, using his bare hands. Afterwards he'd have to rinse his hands in a bath of base to neutralized the acids. What a legend! I heard he's now an ordained priest.
Im tapped in like I don't do this everyday!
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh
lmao preach brother. Great job Willem
You should make one too so we can see your process as well!
U guys are both the best. I love your content. I would love to start doing this in my country and try to influence people to go shoot film again!
Definition of “do as I say, not as I do”
"You should really be wearing gloves and a mask a respirator if possible" proceeds to use none of that 😂
also says that you shouldnt do it over wood, does it anyway
It's not THAT dangerous as long as you're super careful and experienced with chemistry. Most of these chemicals aren't actively fuming out toxic gases like acids.
man back in high school we did all of this in photography class and never touched a glove 😬
@@thepopculturejunky to be fair (if our classes are the same) the chemicals are diluted-at least that’s what my teacher said lol
Do as I say, not as I do.
This was a very “do as I say, not as I do” tutorial 😂😂 I want to try this for myself sometime soon!!
"Be sure to wear gloves and a mask" pours chemicals with bare hands.
@@harlowfitzpatrick9031 "Don't do this on a wooden table" *does exacly that*
Don't let them know your next move.
For those that are into cooking, that TCS is an immersion circulator. Also often used for culinary applications. That means there are also lots of alternative and possibly cheaper brands.
I’ve done it with my Anova sous vide machine when getting my water to correct temp for b&w
Bro is sous viding his film 😂
@@123danman321 guga is proud
Like literally a thermometer
@@MultiSciGeek No
Quick tip for the peeps out there: if you use glass storage bottles it takes longer to get up to temperature, but then they maintain the temperature better. Plastic bottles are the opposite. Neither is better than the other, just personal preference
I just use a water bath to keep the chemistry at the proper temps.
Ngl i used Willem's first version to learn everything I know about developing at home.
Crazy we have the same name and both take photos😳
Same, helped me so much in learning the process.
I do the final wash with heather distilled water from the tub heating the chemicals, otherwise I get water spots!
@@BenjoC8632 I use a squeegee or my fingers after the final rinse to keep the water spots off :)
Same tho
Quick tip that I learned that wasn't talked about in the video but can save your future rolls - use your finger to hold the rotating cover when pouring the chemicals out. It can become loose very easily during agitation and can open up when pouring your chemicals out and expose your film before it's fixed! I learned the hard way
That 1000 pack of rubber bands comes in handy...until I got a tank with a screw top I made sure to put it on my older one so the air inside doesn't ICBM launch the lid into the great beyond from thermal expansion (like the water heater on Myth busters.)
Great vid Willem, Just one thing for the people out there. After every inversion cycle: tap your tank on the counter to prevent bubbles sticking on your film. I can tell from experience that its really shitty when you have bubble marks on your photos.
Great video! One thing I'd recommend, if you have a Fitbit or watch with luminous dial, take it off when your arms are in the changing bag. My Fitbit turned on while in my bag, and I'm pretty sure it fogged my film a bit.
idk why I even clicked on this video so fast, I've been developing myself for a year now. Guess I was just excited for a new Willem upload lol
Same!!
I bought your lessons this morning. They're fantastic. I shot 4 films in the last 3 months but I learnt by myself and this lessons taught me a lot more about film photography. I loved them, worth every single euro that I've spent. Greetings from Italy!
Thank you very much! I’m so happy to hear that ❤️
You’ve come a long way in terms of production value, subject matter and skill. Extremely happy to see you thriving and im looking forward to more content!
Thank you 🥰
4:55
"It's super important at this point to wear gloves and some kind of respirator, because this chemicals are not good for you"
ah, I see. So that's DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO kind of tutorial :D
Just when I developed my first roll of colour film, never done that before, I'm quite happy with the results! Great video as always ❤
The difference between this video and your first one is NUTS! Crazy how much has changed! :)
Such perfect timing! I'm developing my first roll of color right now!!
I have a feeling I know what your recommendation is gonna be on the podcast next week :) I was also inspired to pick up film photography again
How did it go? I'd probably screw it up.
@@throwmilly It came out perfect! I've done several rolls since.
Yay!!
@@MakeSomethinghave you done direct comparisons? did you print under enlarger? How did you deduce that it's perfect? thermostatic systems are required for color development and printing
Great video as always!!! As someone who develops my own film I have to say that it’s super fun, makes getting your photos back that much more rewarding, and saves you so much money! If you’re thinking about doing it yourself, GO FOR IT!!
A lot quicker as well.
Thanks for the video! Question for experienced film developers. How many times can I reuse the chemicals? And/or how long can I keep them for? Thanks
wow when i read the notification i thought he reuploaded the old one😂
ps: ayyy portra boi comin’ thru with the regular uploading!!!!
Literally in the last week started thinking about moving from black and white developing to include colour 🙌🏻 Perfect timing 👌🏻
My apple watch gave me a notification for this and I thought I was stuck in a parallel universe for a second where the original edition of this was just coming out. Whew.
I’m a digital Tog for 15 years. I’m breaking myself into film this year. I’m so ready and look forward for this
2018 Willem: I’m using a thermometer that isn’t waterproof cause it’s the only one they had left at the store
2021 Willem: Here’s a full temperature control system that is so badass.
The first tutorial gave me the confidence to develop color at home and I’m beyond stoked to see a follow up because there’s always something new to learn!
The temperature control system is just a rebranded sous vide machine
@@marekholub8668 with a markup
So how did it go Owen?
I used to develope B&W back in the nineties but never colour, but I'm using film again after 20 years of digital and high prices with no control over the developement process means this could be the way to go. Thanks a ton.!
Is it the same process as B&W
Glad to see an updated video of the most wonderful film photographer!
Love seeing more people doing home devs here. FWIW, I've been using the Kodak FlexiColor C41 chemistry in small-batch mixes and a cheap ebay Sous vide works as well as a red one.
Just started my first roll of film. So this is perfectly timed
Last night I was watching the V70R build, and tonight I'm here by total coincidence.
What a small world.
Killer video as always Willem! I’ve been a little scared to develop color as I’ve only developed black and white, but this video inspired me to do it! :) might have to film it for my channel too! I’m already excited for the next upload!!
Just followed your process and it worked great for three rolls I took on an Olympus half frame. Thanks for sharing this!
film sous vide i'm into it
Worth noting the temperature control system is just a re-badged "sous vide" machine. You may already have one, been wanting one for cooking, or you can pick them up cheap on amazon.
Always a good day when Willem uploads
Now we only need the black and white developing tuorial! Love how Willem explains it
“Now the exciting part, it’s time to see if it worked.” I love your cheerful, low key approach to everything. Always enjoying your videos! ✌️
Thank you Bob!
Willem's developing game has gotten so fancy he's using a sous vide for temp control lol
Nice video spent 40 years shooting with twin lens camera till my old age lol
Always looked for apartments with no bathroom window
Keep up with the good work
Nice to see young ppl
Still shoot film
i’ve been searching forever to find a concise video on how to develop film, thank you so much!
uploaded a video the same day as Willem, I feel the power in my hands now
What a new film development process! It's become my favorite video.
Can you compare at home versus lab - just the development and scanned at home, and developed at home, scanned at lab, and then both at the lab and both at home. Preferably same camera, same film, same scenes. I really really wanna see some "benchmarks" like is it even worth using lab services or you're better of on your own.
I used that og video as a guide for a long time, super hype to see a sequel!
Have done black and white mono a few times works well will move on too colour next 👍
Always a good day when I get a new
V-beeks vid
You made this feel simple.
I'm now off to buying the equipment! Thanks Willem!
Ahhh I finally need to try this out! So far I've always sent my film off to a lab, but I assume self developing my photos would give them a whole new level of special worth🤔🙌🏼
Haha usually I just pray that they come out similar to the lab development. I personally just enjoy the process every once in a while.
You have a good eye for nice pictures. I was very impressed with your final product!
love how you can catch subtle franticness at the cuts
I put your videos up on the tv, i watch for the content, my sister watches for willem 😂
can I also use the chaining bag to change into my swim suit at the beach Willem?
If you are under 1ft tall you should be good!
@@WillemVerb okay sweet thanks!
I have got so many 135 films that need to be done. I will definitely try this out.
I highly recommend using kodak photoflo instead of the given stabilizer, the difference was actually insane and one bottle of photoflo last years because you only need 5ml per liter or so of water
C-41 final rinse has a funigcide in it along with a wetting agent.
I learnt how to do this whole process at school before digital cameras existed, but I only ever did black and white film. I didn’t realise coloured film developing is the exact same process.
Should have shown the workflow of how to load the tank with a test roll.
I'd recommend softly hitting the table with kaiser tank few times once you stop agitating to get rid of the small air bubbles that might be on the film itself.
I've watched your first video and have been considering trying this, wasn't expecting to get teased again.
BTW, it would have been cool if you had taken some, for example, already processed film and demoed how the reels work outside the bag, it's something a lot of these tutorials leave out
Could you 3d print the spools and tank to save some money (and get more use from a 3d printer if you already have one)
As someone who is used to Celsius I was very concerned when you plunged your hand into the 102 degree water
Should try and upgrade to steel reels and tanks! Patterson reels always crinkle my film especially in hotter and more humid places. Takes a little more practice to load the reels, but once you get it, it becomes 10x easier!
You somehow made this feel like a really really chill version of my organic chemistry lab i took this year lol
I can smell this video takes me back to 2001/2003 the darkroom in my high school photography class. Haven’t developed any film since but enjoyed the video!
I wrapped a glass jar with black duct tape, pour in developer and just dunked the entire roll in there.... worked wonders until I tried a 24 exposure color roll and it doesn't have as much tension as the 36 and whole thing is ruined...
What a coincidence! I literally watched your old video on this topic yesterday !!!
Good grief ! Unicolor ; I was using that in the seventies to home process my colour film and trannies. Great to hear that it is still around !!
Oh also - the temp control system works exactly like a sous vide which is great for cooking! So if you like cooking too that will work as a two for one!
Damn Willem, I’m releasing a video about the same topic on Friday geared more towards beginners. Now everyone’s gonna think I’m copying you. Sick video though, love you man. 😂
The old video is the one that put me on to your channel, literally was like “ay that boy remaking his classic” lmao
One plus about that temp controller is you can sous vide some delicious food while you are developing! lol. I bought an Anova unit to do what you are doing in the video. Takes the headache out of temp control. Thanks for including that in your video.
Your studio is a vibe.
Or use a sous-vide to keep the temp stable, probably cheaper, and does the same thing. Opinions?
ECN-2 film can also be developed with C41 chemicals. You need to remove the protective backing first though.
E-6 color positives (dia) can also be developed to color negatives if you’re feeling adventurous.
C22 film is not compatible. The higher temperature of C41 destroys the emulsion. Also the chemicals are not compatible from what I know. But C22 can be processed to B/W film.
i'll try developing at home when i have the confidence
somehow never realized you have both a red hoodie and red sweatshirt. always thought of them as the same piece of clothing
Must try developing myself at home. Thanks for the vid 😁😁
That Diablo photo is just amazing!!!!!!!!
Thanks for uploading! At around 6:15 you mentioned checking the spools were the right way - but then you disassembled them and put them in the bag. And then proceeded to put the film on the reels inside the bag .. but how do you do this?? What's going on in there?
I recommend after agitating tapping the tank a little against the counter to knock out air bubbles
Just moved and finally have a space to develop that is dark. I'll be coming back to this video.....
Thank you for the tutorial 💙 I want to ask how many time can you reuse the 3 solutions?
Thanks for the video. I bought a Lot (a box with a bunch of nearly useless crap in it) at an auction several years back that contained about 15 Kodak canisters of film. I got tired of looking at them and was ready to throw them out and thought, eh, I could just throw out the film and use the all yellow metal canisters for something. Then I thought, heck, I'll do a little research, maybe the film is worth something on ebay. After doing some research I realized that the film wasn't new, it was used and that these particular kinds of film (Plus-X PX 135) was discontinued in 1969. That was an eye opener. Heck, I could have previously unknown Woodstock photo's. Kaching. That's why I'm here researching how to develop my own. Can't really see entrusting previously unknown photos of the JFK assassination to some other film developer. Thanks.
I just ordered the Cinestill Temperature control system after watching the video. Maintaining the correct temp for my chemicals is my biggest complaint with developing film at home. I’m looking forward to giving it a try.
Loading the film onto the spools in the dark is something you'll need to practice several times with spent film until you can do it with confidence in the changing bag
I said the same thing all last year about what my neighbors thought I was doing between 12 and 2am. Cooking dope lmao
this video gave me so much nostalgia, amazing!
I really thought it'd be way more complicated than this! we don't develop colour at my university so i just assumed it was really annoying but it literally seems the same as b&w just being more mindful of temperature
Love the progression from when you started this channel man!
This is an inspiring video! I just may have to give it a go. Not much space here but if i move some stuff around in the kitchen and send the wife out for awhile, HA HA, I might be okay.
Next time please film putting the film in the changing bag and give more details like how long to let them dry
Lets be real here, the "Cinestill Temperature Control System" is just a sous vide stick that is used in kitchens. So you can just as easy buy one of those, instead of paying extra for a Cinestill logo
I was able to get consistently good color negatives by using the microwave oven and a digital meat thermometer. Start with 35 seconds at 1100 watts an then do 3 to four seconds until you get to 102 degrees fahrenheit...if you overshoot it, get a fold top sandwich bag and put an ice cube in it and dip it in the developer while looking at the thermometer reading. The film is in the developer for only 3-1/2 minutes so it doesn't change much. It goes without saying that you should throw away the bag/ice cube combination when you are done. And if you are doing C-41 film in positive, use caffenol as the first developer and not ascorbic Acid, as ascorbic Acid destroys the color information. Then the second development is done to completion for 16 minutes and don't mess with the temperature once you get it at 102 F.
I let my grandson borrow my camera to take pictures at a wedding and they told me they knew how to take the film out of the camera but now they said they made a room dark and opened my camera and felt that the film was ripped inside and closed it back. I can not find anyone around with a dark room and my experience with developing film has been many years ago but after watching your video I just might do it myself
I remember going into the dark room of the Nordlys newspaper in Tromsø, Norway, where long-time journalist Svenn A. “Svenna” Nielsen showed me the ropes. He said that sometimes when he couldn't find gloves in time for the deadline, he'd simply mix the chems without them, using his bare hands. Afterwards he'd have to rinse his hands in a bath of base to neutralized the acids. What a legend! I heard he's now an ordained priest.
I still remember first “how to develop film” video from Wills, dude was rocking that curtains hairstyle 🌞🤟
dark times lmao, i looked like i got hit by a gust of wind
@@WillemVerb dude, fun fact, we swapped the haircuts lmao
My sous vide and photography channels are starting to blend
what method do you recommend for digitalizing it afterwards?
that video you made is the reason i am here now. pretty epic
Loving the Darkroom setup you've got going on!
Can you save and keep reusing the chemicals or are they one and done? If so how long can you keep using them for
This is surprisingly easy like wow
I have no desire to develop film at home anymore - but like i'm still gonna watch the heck out of this video I mean come on