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@@Sten05agreed bro goddamn played a champ stacked with coppers and silvers it was the coppers gettting most of the kills , because of weird peaks and odd holds out of site
@@NortyNekothey’ll bait and then act good when they sell every round because they do nothing but hide in a random spot. They might get picks but they do nothing to stop them from progressing in the round. I’ve seen it so many times since I started solo queuing again.
@@臣広-q5t thats the point, your not supposed to win 1v1's against a shield. all that it takes to beat shields is just teamwork and not getting close to them.
@@ezmyguy868 nope they coded a knife priority. It used to take skill to win a knife fight now youre forced to win a knife fight by the games rules that makes 0 sense. Like i understand the shield staying in front of the face but the knife priority rule is bs
@@臣広-q5t thats the whole point, they gave shields knife priority because there supposed to win 1v1 scenarios. There are lots of counters and simple teamwork will help you beat shields easily lol.
Props to secret, this is no different then when lion was broken and every team centered their pushes with the intent of them moving during a lion scan or stand still for an easy kill during a lion scan. The only ones to blame are the devs for how broken shields are, they act like oryx is a counter, or the guard break is highly advantageous when that is so far from the case.
@@goonklin2153 They def wont revert it, the whole point was to make them better and more viable, a few smaller nerfs would be fine but their pick rate and win rate is still very below average, they aren't a problem in the vast majority of matches even in the higher ranks.
if shields didn't have melee priority most of the issues with them would be solved instantly That's the main thing that annoys me before the rework I could confidently take a gun fight with my back to a monty who's literally touching me 180 when I hear the unexpended shield and then melee to guard break I can't do that anymore which fuckin suck I do think shield could be fine if say melee only does like 30 dmg if they really wanna keep the priority or maybe less tbh Forced monty to expose himself if he wanted to kill someone or forces monty to let a teammate get the kills instead this way a 1v1 against a monty isn't favourable for the monty unless plant is down
@@kurtaaron4110 think about how much more impactful bans were when there was way less operators, they should have more bans to make them more important
Cheesing is playing really corny essentially. Its when you run a melusi into a kapkan or you’re crutching clash every round, its literally just playing really fucking irritating
SKILL ISSUE OR BAD TEAM COMP There are 3-4 shield attackers (osa 🍑) 11 defenders with C4 13-15 non c4 util characters for shields Maestro is a hard counter he can penetrate shields Melee is broken tho
I have Quit siege because of the Shield rework its awful how the Game is now everyone is just playing cheap with like Shields,BOSG,Glaz screw that Game.
I feel like bds was EXTREMELY POOR at adjusting? Lesion is good all the rest was bad, no wamai or jager for their smoke? No smoke? No oryx? Why solis repeatedly?
I mean 100% I'm just making a guess as to why they might have chosen solis Not trying to say it was a good choice Also forgot to mentioned solis might be able to see a glaz scope right? so it might have been them trying to see if glaz was in play to know if they could peek through smoke or move through smoke
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So copper and pro league arent so different after all
Other than the aim, comms ext
Def wouldn't say it because coppers are very unpredictable
@@Sten05agreed bro goddamn played a champ stacked with coppers and silvers it was the coppers gettting most of the kills , because of weird peaks and odd holds out of site
@@NortyNekothey’ll bait and then act good when they sell every round because they do nothing but hide in a random spot. They might get picks but they do nothing to stop them from progressing in the round. I’ve seen it so many times since I started solo queuing again.
Coppers are very predictable
the only difference is their aim, coordination, trades, droning, information sharing, map knowledge, and adaptation. "small" differences
Its almosy as if shields are insanely op rn
They are great for 1v1 close quarter duel.
@@bossofthisgym2058literally cant even knife the shield anymore ubisoft is fkn rtrdd
@@臣広-q5t thats the point, your not supposed to win 1v1's against a shield. all that it takes to beat shields is just teamwork and not getting close to them.
@@ezmyguy868 nope they coded a knife priority. It used to take skill to win a knife fight now youre forced to win a knife fight by the games rules that makes 0 sense. Like i understand the shield staying in front of the face but the knife priority rule is bs
@@臣広-q5t thats the whole point, they gave shields knife priority because there supposed to win 1v1 scenarios. There are lots of counters and simple teamwork will help you beat shields easily lol.
People can hate them for it all they want, but secret went in with a plan, and it worked. And it was incredibly well done.
agreed. there is nothing wrong with it, its a zero sum game
@@originalcheezecake some people were saying secret are a bunch of pussies and we’re taking the loss real hard. Even calling for them to be banned
Props to secret, this is no different then when lion was broken and every team centered their pushes with the intent of them moving during a lion scan or stand still for an easy kill during a lion scan. The only ones to blame are the devs for how broken shields are, they act like oryx is a counter, or the guard break is highly advantageous when that is so far from the case.
Its only really a problem for the pro players, in ranked its almost never a problem, they don't really need big nerfs.
@@Gigopz high level lobbies shields are annoying as all hell, its needs to be nerfed or at the very least reverted to pre shield buff
@@goonklin2153 They def wont revert it, the whole point was to make them better and more viable, a few smaller nerfs would be fine but their pick rate and win rate is still very below average, they aren't a problem in the vast majority of matches even in the higher ranks.
@@Gigopzme when i lie
@@CooperRivera-n9r I'm sorry but it's just facts.
Bro that yuzus lion round😭😭
People getting mad at Secret from using Cheese when that is literally how BDS beat DZ at Manchester
YES !! Finally some analysis! what i've been waiting for
Finally some chesslike r6 commentary by someone who actually knows the systems
We need more of this analysis
Someone at Ubisoft got paid to come up with the shields rework fyi
Probably a team
if shields didn't have melee priority most of the issues with them would be solved instantly
That's the main thing that annoys me
before the rework I could confidently take a gun fight with my back to a monty who's literally touching me
180 when I hear the unexpended shield and then melee to guard break
I can't do that anymore which fuckin suck
I do think shield could be fine if say melee only does like 30 dmg if they really wanna keep the priority or maybe less tbh
Forced monty to expose himself if he wanted to kill someone or forces monty to let a teammate get the kills instead
this way a 1v1 against a monty isn't favourable for the monty unless plant is down
@@reelgesh51 agree
"for the past couple of months I've been a content creator" 😂 based Fett 🔥
best pro league anylasis I've ever seen ❤
3 big regions of r6 esports
brazil, na and north america
Is smoke not just like the second best counter to this?
is that baby oil next to a roll of paper towels ??
Diddy?
Not Yuzus crying on twitter after losing 😭
Do you think its worth useing a 1to1 sens?
Coach where did you find these black and white map layouts?
I wish ubi will implement 3-Attacker-3-Defender bans to fix this meta cheese problems
not really possible to do 3-3 gotta go 4-4
it's funny but if there was no bans this cheese also wouldn't be an issue :)
Would make some strats too oppressive
@@kurtaaron4110 think about how much more impactful bans were when there was way less operators, they should have more bans to make them more important
What is your favorite memory from coaching pro league?
what program do u use to draw on ur screen
epic pen
Is this pentool free to download? And where ty!
Hey fett where can I get that google slide of the maps
It's on his Twitch, and there is a command for it (people in offline chat use it a lot)
@@killerqueen5624 thank you so much
W Fett We need a reaction to thaqil
Ah yes the three biggest regions NA, Brazil, and ofc North America
wtf does mean Cheese there, im confused
Same wtf
Cheesing is playing really corny essentially. Its when you run a melusi into a kapkan or you’re crutching clash every round, its literally just playing really fucking irritating
Using something that makes it very very easy to win
hey fett i just lost a ranked game and i went 17-3 and none of my teamates got over 3 kills! I cant get out of copper what should i do
Back down and give up.
Yeah fr give up it's not for you
@@throwaway2570 that’s what i was thinking
"I lost one singular ranked game and now I'm gonna cry in the comment section"
What the sigma
SKILL ISSUE OR BAD TEAM COMP
There are 3-4 shield attackers (osa 🍑)
11 defenders with C4
13-15 non c4 util characters for shields
Maestro is a hard counter he can penetrate shields
Melee is broken tho
Maestro can penetrate shields?
BDS loses and starts whining classic
Shields are unbelievably broken on console
I have Quit siege because of the Shield rework its awful how the Game is now everyone is just playing cheap with like Shields,BOSG,Glaz screw that Game.
I’m on fetts pc wallpaper 😮
TEAM SECRET I LOVE THEM
Shields are broke af 😂 you can counter melee anyone trying to knock your shield back like whaaaaa
Yo fett can we get that Wallpaper
I feel like bds was EXTREMELY POOR at adjusting? Lesion is good all the rest was bad, no wamai or jager for their smoke? No smoke? No oryx? Why solis repeatedly?
Yeah, it was fs a bad read from BDS into a slow adjustment. Hopefully teams wisen up and shut this meta down fast
Solis is for blitz btw
since they can always track blitz through the walls (I think)
@@reelgesh51 feel like him sprinting and jumping through windows already tells ya where he is. They needed better/real counters
I mean 100% I'm just making a guess as to why they might have chosen solis
Not trying to say it was a good choice
Also forgot to mentioned solis might be able to see a glaz scope right? so it might have been them trying to see if glaz was in play to know if they could peek through smoke or move through smoke
Can we not also chalk this up to being on border ? Lol
Its bc of Virtue!!
good vid me like
wsg big man 🤑
watching this makes me realize secret is a bunch of bums and im refunding their esports skin
Ok
@@helobetter Damn
wowzas
As a shield main I’m hard
YOOOOOOOOOOOO
hi fett
Lmao translates to fat
74 views in 7 min bro fell off
0:50 Brazil NA or North America 😂