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A KILLER Phono Stage Breathes Life Into Vinyl

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
  • There are times when a new piece of equipment brings new life into a system. For me, that's the Super MM Phono Stage from Aric Audio.
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  • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
    @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @adsph
    @adsph หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can't beat one's fine craftsmanship. Good find.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, Chris. I was thrilled to learn of it.

    • @adsph
      @adsph หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords I’m deep in the phono pre amp as well. Really liking it and learning.

  • @samuelreggio1611
    @samuelreggio1611 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have and love this phono stage. I run a Denon 103 with a Cinemag 1254 step up transformer and it's pure heaven. Aric rules.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll be shopping for an SUT at some point in the next few months. Thanks, Samuel!

  • @michaelmorris7552
    @michaelmorris7552 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video Rick... The Journey never ends!!

  • @rickg8015
    @rickg8015 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for showing the innards.. The designer/builder knows where to put the money on.. You have an all Polypropylene film (DC Link) psu caps too, rare to see.. Tube shunt regulated, looks like a psu filter choke/s in there too.. Thick solid copper ground busses.. Wima FKP (not the not so good MKP) for RIAA Eq filtering.. Vishay resistors, in the direct signal path.. I find that if you have very low or zero interference, you can get away without tube shields, which has some sonic rewards..

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know any more about this than I do - thanks for all that!

    • @MrAricaudio123
      @MrAricaudio123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re spot on with regards to the build- thank you! I also a toroid power transformer under a steel shield and an extremely low value first filter cap rate at 1.2kv DC to handle the charging pulses from the rectifier, then the balance of the filtering is LCLRC respectively. All power supply resistors are wire wound Vishay which I find to sound slightly better as well the final output is a cathode follower stage to avoid any miller capacitance effects from the final RIAA output. I mention this because everything else you mentioned is spot on, and I thoroughly enjoy designing and building! Cheers, Aric

  • @cybot6
    @cybot6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now that’s how to do a review without actually knowing it’s a review. Thanks for sharing too! Great hearing about company products I’ve never even heard of. The only caveat is I’m on one side of the world and they’re on the other. No chance of even having a listen 😢 However it’s brilliant to find out about these magic boxes and to experience your own joy of the journey towards nirvana. Beautifully understated and a joy to us too. Thanks Rick for taking the time out to do this. It really brightens up our day. While I’m at it I’m wondering have you ever heard of my ‘gear’, namely Croft valve amplifiers, Castle Howard transmission line speakers and AnalogueWorks/Nottingham Analogue tt’s. Thankfully I reached my own version of nirvana a while ago. Sadly too the great men who made and designed these precious objects of desire have since passed on. I salute you Tom Fletcher and Glenn Croft, turntable and amplifier magician’s respectively.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I looked up each of the gear you mentioned. All are beautiful. Is the Croft valve the series 5? I saw a few different Analogue turntables but believe I found the one you mentioned. If you ever get around to it and don’t mind sharing I’d love to see pictures.

    • @cybot6
      @cybot6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords Very nice of you to say so Rick! Though a lot of naysayers wouldn’t exactly describe the Croft Series 5 as beautiful 😱 It was my very first inroad to the valve experience back in ‘94. I still have it! Along with others I’m afraid to mention as I became a ridiculous fanboy! Anyway my current amplifier setup is the Micronaut/Polestar pre/power hybrid amplifiers in my main system and Glenn’s very last designs Micro 25/Series 7 amplifiers in my second system. In the same room! I just love that magical Croft sound. Anyway the ‘spare’ system is there in case my main system sits down. Of course I do actually listen to it regularly anyway. Of course I’ll send you some photos!

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cybot6 Thanks for the images in advance! You can reach me direct through my website joyofvinyl.com. Thanks again!

  • @sidesup8286
    @sidesup8286 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds like a nice addition Rick. Things like having a seperate power supply really show attention to detail, and how dedicated the company is to maximize sound quality. There is so many invisible fields going on inside a compents cabinet (electomagnetic fields, static fields etc.) not to mention transformer vibration, seperating what you can is always beneficial. Even seperating wires is beneficial. On the net there are sites that say the electrical field stays within the wires conductor, and other sites say that the electrical field extends outward and beyond the conductor, and the sheathing, be it silver, copper wires etc. Totally contradictory information!!!.. I can tell you that the second one is correct; the electrical field extends well beyond the conductor and the wires sheathing, and is easily heard in my experiments.
    The 12AU7 tube is what I am using in my tube volume control. I found some old NOS 1953 & 1954 black plate, tall glass Sylvania tubes. Preferred by some to Mullards, especially for depth reproduction. The Sylvania 12AU7 tubes you are using are likely the later "shorter" glass tube from the box you picture. The earlier taller glass tubes are usually better at such things as image size, bass, etc. But the taller glass tubes are more conducive to having a hint more microphonics, which can be tamed by tube rings on your tubes. The rings are not that expensive, are well worth it, and sonically a bargain for the improvements in focus, detail, high end extension, purity and taming microphonics, in both short and taller glass tubes. I would never not use tube rings. I have at least 2 or 3 on each tube. The first ones I used, which are no longer made anymore were, silicon rings by Dupont. I believe Dupont invented silicon, if I'm not mistaken. A rubbery thick tube ring. There are 40 different types of rubber by the way.They make tube rings for input tubes and special tube rings made especially for output tubes, which get much hotter. No smarter thing than using tubes in phono stages and preamps.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been intrigued by tube rings. I should look into those.
      I made an error when I said it was a sylvania. The one I showed was a clear top old stock RCA. I forgot the Sylvania hadn't been cleaned yet.

  • @seed_drill7135
    @seed_drill7135 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those shields look exactly like the ones on my 60 year old H.H. Scott Type 130. Same tubes, too!

  • @3dimensionsofmusic3D
    @3dimensionsofmusic3D หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sounds like 😊 it's a winner 🏆. Thanks for sharing this

  • @wanderlustjohn
    @wanderlustjohn 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video Rick!

  • @false_binary
    @false_binary หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your channel bc you stick to the fundamentals and educate outward from there. Ty for sharing this component - I bought a Schiit Mani 2 phono pre-amp (musical fidelity m5si & project x1b)...what a difference! I am willing to bet, like me, this is NOT your last pre for the next 6 yrs 😂

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Schiit makes great products! If this phono stage doesn;t make it until 2030 my wife will kill me 😂😂😂

  • @danielgeiger7739
    @danielgeiger7739 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for finding this one. I am looking around for an endgame phono stage. I will get my new TT (Rega Naia with Aphelion 2 cart) and a Zesto Andros step-up transformer early August. So a dedicated high end MM stage is something I've been looking for. I appreciate point to point, have a Primaluna EVO 300 preamp. The Rega space age would be quite a contrast to a wood cabinet, but it may actually work. Thanks again for bringing the Aric to my attention.

    • @cynthiakis1731
      @cynthiakis1731 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have Rega P 10 with Aphhelion 2 and Rega Aura phonostage fantastc

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Daniel! The Rega Naia is a beautiful turntable. There are different color options that Aric offers. It might be worth a quick email to him to see what he could do for the Rega Naia matching. Cheers!

  • @glennlittle124
    @glennlittle124 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How exciting!!!! It's not often we find something that changes our experiences( music or otherwise) for the better as much as this seems to have! Congratulations on the find! Will definitely be checking into this!!

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, Glenn! I'm enjoying it immensely. It's one of those pieces of gear that makes you want to listen all day long.

  • @petrvodkin5001
    @petrvodkin5001 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing! No surprise, same thing with guitar amps, no PCB will ever feel and sound like PTP, same thing with transistor or digital vs valves. Cheers!

  • @keirhardman2769
    @keirhardman2769 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff Rick delighted for you.
    I had a similar experience when I added my first dedicated phono stage. (In my case the Dynavector P75 Mk IV).
    This was definitely the best upgrade I have ever made and I think that phono stages in general probably receive less attention than they should in most people's systems.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. I’ve always been a proponent of external phono stages, but this is the first time I’ve noticed a substantial difference and sound!

  • @johnosullivan2017
    @johnosullivan2017 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just discovered your channel, and I could not agree more on tube preamps and vinyl. I had my Townshend turntable refurbed last year, and a new MM cart fitted. I was running that thru an Edwards solid state pre-amp, then an Icon PP20 tube power amp into Spendor LS3. With that rig, reissues tended to sound better than early presses. Then I got the matching Icon pre amp so it's all tubes now. As you say: detail and separation! Suddenly my first press Get Yer Ya-Yas out sounded incredible, and I stopped playing my 2003 Abcko reissue. I also had a big improvement in bass; probably connected to the Townshend TT silicone trough as well as the amplification. Especially directional bass on red plum Artisan Atlantic LPs. Another big step forward for my was gettting a HumminGuru ultrasound cleaner. If you don't have your own ultrasound cleaner, there's your next 50%!

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks John! I have heard quite a bit about the HumminGuru. It's something I want to see in action. Cheers! 🍺

  • @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
    @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Remton Audio 383 mk 1, three tube phono stage with a separate power supply. The shields are apparently fitted to reduce the tubes ringing on mine! It's a lovely piece of kit, with a great sound.
    Glad you're enjoying yours too.
    Best wishes and happy listening, from Scotland.
    Jim🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂

    • @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
      @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox หลายเดือนก่อน

      I posted a video of the Remton 2 months ago titled; Remton Audio tube phono stage fitted with Tweaker Man's Little Houses Isolation Feet. If you have the time and inclination to look.
      Jim🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers from NH, Jim! 🍺🥃

  • @MaxKnoxwille
    @MaxKnoxwille 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super cool channel! Subscribed❤

  • @frankgeeraerts6243
    @frankgeeraerts6243 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A big yes for point to point .if it's done right ..........
    I fit sounds great ...............that means that it cfan be upgraded ( not so with the often erronous illusion to upgrade amps with shortcommings )
    Better potmeter..or replace it with a fixed output ( sounds better, potmeters do eat some music )
    Better wiring ...OCC...
    Better RCA connectors ......
    Better sockets.
    Some resistors ....Tantale ( Audio note or Shinkoh )
    A/B sounds better than most resistors but are a bit more noisy....( they are not inductive so they capture no magnetics fields or interference )
    Suspending tube sockets on ribber decoupling silent blocks........
    Optimize ....Layout of heater wiring ......or use shielded wire !
    ........and other minor details.........but if you are satisfied , upgrade can wait......
    Tubes ..............ECC83 Telefunken flat plates ( or 5751A RCA /triple mica / black plates )
    .........................ECC82 " idem".........................( or 5814A " idem " command series)
    ........if you are lucky to find those .....E83CC original TESLA ! ( NOT JJ !!!) ....they are in fact the same as the obsolete ECC803s from Telefunken.......
    Siemens/Valvo/Adzam/Philips are also excellent ............even the ECC82 RFT .
    Mullard ECC83 are a bit noisy !
    5U4 Gold Brand Sylvania ......or genuine RCA...
    Milflex is one of the best quality capacitor for the price...........tinned copper foil ( Dueleund ) is superior but very very expensive..............ultimate is full AG occ wire and AG foil caps ......but out of budget for most of us .
    On the very best selected and musdican sounding nos tubes , the most silent ones , you also you can benefit from Herbie tube dampers, .....
    Happy listening ...........yes a good tube RIAA make a LOT of difference............
    .and have a lot of fun listening to analog and vinyl........

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the tube recommendations - I always appreciate that!

  • @AudioGuyBrian
    @AudioGuyBrian วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good thing my Vintage Pioneer, JVC and Sansui receivers already have great pre-amps built in. Plus the JVC and Sansui accept 2 Turntables. I can save money by not having to buy something that looks like it was designed and built by Thomas Edison in the 1910's. I could make my receivers look cooler I guess by gluing a couple of old TV Tubes on the top and lighting them up with an amber LED. LOL.

  • @randyoleson
    @randyoleson หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved hearing about this! Your link has an extra “k” in it.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Randy! Fixed it a few moments ago - thank you!

  • @NoEgg4u
    @NoEgg4u หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have had noise picked up by my phono amp. Not recently. But it has happened a few times over the years.
    I did not realize that you are using a moving magnet cartridge. They can be very good. But the weight of the magnets is a limiting factor in just how good a moving magnet cartridge can be.
    The magnets have far more mass as compared to the coils. So the cantilever is not able to move the magnets as easily as moving the coils (and it is the interaction between the magnets and the coils that produces the voltage that is sent to the phono amp).
    The moving magnet cartridge cannot have the same finesse, or the same speed, as a moving coil cartridge, and therein lies the limitation of a moving magnet cartridge.
    I suggest that you audition a couple of great moving coil cartridges. The three best ones that I have heard are Hana's flagship cartridge (takes the bronze), Air Tight's PC-1 (takes the sliver), and Clearaudio's Goldfinger (takes the gold). The Goldfinger was simply mind blowing (and wallet emptying).
    There are many other, more affordable, moving coil cartridges worth auditioning.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The MM I have is the Ortofon Black LVB250. Amazing cart and I do want to move into MC carts later this year or next. Budget has stopped me. I know there are some great MC carts in the $600 range I would consider (but I'd also need a SUT). My only concern is if the $600 MC would be a step back from a $1000 LVB250. Maybe not or maybe they are comparable. I have no experience yet with MC to know better...
      Thoughts?

    • @NoEgg4u
      @NoEgg4u หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords "My only concern is if the $600 MC would be a step back from a $1000 LVB250."
      That is a great question, and one that probably to which no one knows the answer.
      That was the problem that I ran into when I decided to purchase a turntable.
      With every other component that I purchased, I was able to listen to it either in the store or (via a loaner) in my apartment. The store loaned me amps, DACs, pre-amps, and interconnects, over the years. But when it came to the turntable, tone-arm, and cartridge, I had to decide without ever hearing the items.
      The turntable set-up that they had in the store 1) did not appeal to me aesthetically, and 2) I was not impressed with its sound quality -- and they were using a $3,000 Clearaudio cartridge. With so many turntables on the market to choose from, I was of the opinion that could have both great sound quality and aesthetics, too. Great sound quality is a must. But I have to live with how it looks, too. And that is why I had to choose everything without being able to demo it.
      The store gave me advice. Although they carried the brand that I chose, they never stocked my turntable model. For my tone-arm and cartridge, they stocked neither.
      I ended up rolling the dice, based on reviews in Stereophile and The Absolute Sound.
      Even with their reviews, they did not have my combination of turntable, tone-arm, and cartridge.
      Did I end up making a good choice? I think so. I am pleased with how it sounds.
      When I asked the store's turntable guru to professionally align my set-up, I brought it back to the store. A few days later he called me and told me it was ready. He had it hooked up in his flagship (dream stereo) room, and it sounded great. So my combination worked. That was a load off my mind -- to stop worrying if I made good choices.
      But my story does not help your dilemma. It only helps me to commiserate with your dilemma.
      All I can suggest is that you read reviews from reputable sources. That is what I did. And I cannot think of any alternatives, unless you can get loaners. And if it is not local, then the cost of shipping will eat into your budget.
      Lastly, whatever you audition, be sure to dial it in.
      I, initially, was not too happy with my choices. But after the store's turntable guru dialed it in, I was happy. And there is also the break-in period. It just boils down to a lot of time, effort, cash, and perhaps a bit of luck, to land the right combination.
      Do you have a list $600 candidates in mind?

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NoEgg4u I've been looking at a couple of the Hana MC carts.

    • @NoEgg4u
      @NoEgg4u หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords I am not sure if I ever put this in any of my comments. It is from one of Michael Fremer's videos. I believe he was showing an audience how to set-up a turntable, when he said the following:
      "The worst case scenario includes when a cartridge manufacturer installs the stylus into the cantilever at an improper angle. This happens occasionally on multi-thousand dollar cartridges, and probably happens regularly on sub-thousand dollar cartridges."
      Hana makes great cartridges. But there is still a human being putting them together. Whatever cartridge you choose (Hana or any other brand), inspect it for the above.

  • @litoboy5
    @litoboy5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool

  • @stevenwilliams6258
    @stevenwilliams6258 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MM phono stage? A while back you were looking for MC cartridge suggestions. Would you go with a stepup transformer? I have tried the LL1933AG mu-metal core , Jensen JT-346AXT (required two RC networks to tame its peak) and LL1931 with amorphous core (DIY projects). I like either Lundahl.
    An alternative is to use a current mode MC amplifier such as the one outlined on Richard Lee's article, available on Hifisonix. I built a Boozehound Labs JFET head amp with a dual-JFET buffered output to drive a cable and the Lee. The current mode pre requires a low resistance cartridge

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am definitely going to an MC in the coming year. The Super MM is amazing so I’ll have to spring for a SUT. Question is which one. For carts I’m leaning towards a Hana. I also need a SUT with a small footprint (running out of shelf space!). Trials and tribulations...

  • @davidreyes9007
    @davidreyes9007 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great channel what base are you using on that project table ?

    • @davidreyes9007
      @davidreyes9007 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My bad on that thorens table ?

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi David - It's the Pangea Audio wall shelf. From what I understand demand was high but they will be getting more in (may have already). I did a video on it a while back - th-cam.com/video/qTMG_2zko6w/w-d-xo.html

  • @rob5631
    @rob5631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since I own a Tavish Classic phono-preamp, I am curious how much better you think the AricAudio sounds in comparison? Is it night and day? Is it worth the extra price of admission? (roughly 4 times the cost) I always thought my Tavish would be the end game phono-pre for me, now you have me curious. Anyway, thanks for the review!! Subscribed for more content...

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey Rob! The Tavish classic is a great phono stage and I have been very happy with it for a couple of years. I still recommend it. That being said the Aric audio stage was an audible improvement to the point where I wouldn’t be able to go back. I’m playing with different tubes in it now and the detail is incredible. Hope that helps!

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gosh, the price is over the moon!
    Make a clone EAR845 and you will be as happy and thousands better off

    • @rofgabor
      @rofgabor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rick never said it's cheap. Some people spend more on cable UPGRADES alone annually than this.

  • @gabriellegiovanni7899
    @gabriellegiovanni7899 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do yourself a favor and try the Grado Master 3 cartridge. You’ll never need or want to go above 40 dB in your photo stage.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a great cartridge. I'll definitely cobsider it when I move into the world of MC carts next year.

  • @panicrevmaster
    @panicrevmaster 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is a phono stage a sophisticated preamp? If you had pioneer, Harmon kardin, Sansui receiver (i do) would you use real nice external preamp on aux or receivers phono selector?I have a techniques Turn table And I am not thrilled With The way it sounds.I also have a Sansui Turn table and comparatively it sounds so much better!!! My 2000A receiver
    Has two phono inputs so I can go back and forth.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi! I would opt for the external phono stage. It is basically a preamp but specifically designed for turntables. You certainly don't have to go ultra-high end - there are some great phono stages for under $300. It will definitely sound better than a built in one.
      Hope that helps!

  • @panicrevmaster
    @panicrevmaster 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you have a nice receiver With built in preamp Still Go external pre amp.?

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would, but it really depends on the receiver. There are some exceptionally well done built-ins out there

  • @JWD1992
    @JWD1992 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Confession: I have never had tubes in my setup. (I briefly had an old all-in-one mono record player intended mainly for 45s that had tubes. Although not sophisticated by any means, the sound absolutely had a "charm," for lack of a better term.) I love my ordinary solid state Onkyo receiver, but if I decide to add a different phono stage rather than just relying on what is built in, this is might as well be my first choice.
    Is it worth it for me to only go with tubes in the phono stage, or should my amplifier also have tubes for it to be truly worth it?
    On the topic of Toys In The Attic, that reminds me that I also need to finally get that quadraphonic gear I have wanted for decades. My copy of Toys is that SQ quad edition, but I have only ever played it in stereo, haha.

    • @sbwlearning1372
      @sbwlearning1372 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      FWIW I would say experiment. Around 7 years ago I bought a valve buffer from China. It was around £40 and I placed it between every component I had to see the effect it had on sound.
      After much tinkering with different new and vintage valves I decided I loved the valve sound.
      Today I have a valve preamp and a valve phono stage into a 600 wpc classD power amp.
      Valves plus power = utter sonic bliss
      🎸🎧🎵

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you want to start with tubes - go with the phono stage first. You don't have to go high end or spend alot either. If budget is a concern the Project Tube Box is a good option for a phono stage. If you love the sound (it's how I started), you can upgrade the phono stage from there.

  • @ceylonmooney
    @ceylonmooney หลายเดือนก่อน

    maaaaan, this i a cool phono amp. i enjoyed this review. can u get ur hands on a tavish adagio to compare?

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd love to - I know Tavish Designs is a bit behind on delivery. I'm not sure if they do loaners for comparisons.

    • @ceylonmooney
      @ceylonmooney หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords theres a long wait list right now.
      no idea . why not ask?

  • @chelillingworth9466
    @chelillingworth9466 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you get your Thorens from Dave over at Vinyl Nirvana, I think we might be in the same neck of the woods

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I did! Picked it up at his place over a year ago. I’m in NH. About 45 minutes from Dave.

    • @chelillingworth9466
      @chelillingworth9466 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords very cool I'm just 20 minutes away from him! I just upgraded my 160 super to a TD 125 with the Sorane tonearm, made a really significant improvement. And about 6 months after that they upgraded my Hana EL to an SL

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chelillingworth9466 Did you keep the 160 or were you able to trade-in for credit to go towards the 125?

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chelillingworth9466 Wow. I might reach out to Dave about it. I never realized that was an option. Thanks for the response!

    • @chelillingworth9466
      @chelillingworth9466 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords I'm not sure if it was a one-off or a special case but it's worth asking

  • @Bootradr
    @Bootradr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a little confused by the uses of phono stages. I was just talking with a friend earlier today about this topic.
    Why are people buying phono stages if they have a good receiver that has one built in? Do you have to run the phono stage from the AUX jack on the receiver? Or are they mainly used by people that don't have a receiver and need to get sound to their speakers being used? I've never bought one so I'm not really sure how and why they are used. It was my impression that people bought them for the sound or fidelity THR can produce or alter that might be better than the built-in photo stage on a receiver. But that doesn't seem to be the case either. You don't use a phono stage going between the turntable and the photo jacks on a receiver, right?
    I've just never really looked into a. Phono stage and wonder what they are mainly used for and how they are positioned in the chain. Thanks for any l help.
    Brian in Fort Worth 🎶

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Brian - Some amps and receivers (and turntables) do have built in phono stages. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. For the most part the built-ins are simply there for the RIAA curve equalization and signal boosting. Dedicated phono stages preserve the signal and provide a level of clarity and detail that built-ins won't do - nor were they meant to.
      As ofr position - they simply go between the turntable and the amp (or receiver). If you have a phono-in on the receiver, you won't want to plug into that since the phono stage is handling everything. You would plug it into another input.
      Always happy to help if you more questions! You can also reach me through the website.

  • @davidwilliams2840
    @davidwilliams2840 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have the same issue with my Pathos phono stage if I get anywhere near it with my mobile it makes a terrible racket ... All valves act exactly the same

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have to say it surprised me and was a good demo of the use of shields.

  • @FasuloA
    @FasuloA หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uh oh. I JUST got a Pro-ject DS2. Let’s test my fortitude. 😂

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

    • @chrislj2890
      @chrislj2890 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I just got the Pro-Ject Phono Box DS3 B phono pre-amp and I'm perfectly satisfied. I don't feel the need to have tubes in the phono stage since it's going into an integrated tube amp. And also mine is able to handle mm and mc cartridges.

    • @michaelcuellar59
      @michaelcuellar59 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just got a phono box s3b and I’m honestly pretty happy with it balanced out sounds so good. I’m using a LHY audio 18v liner power supply with my gosh this combo is killing it for me.

    • @chrislj2890
      @chrislj2890 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelcuellar59
      Another cool thing is I can have the RCAs going into my Willsenton R8 tube amp and the XLRs going into my Yamaha A-S3200 integrated amp and switch between them. Extremely versatile.

  • @davidrichardson3573
    @davidrichardson3573 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is Eric audios website?

  • @frankgeeraerts6243
    @frankgeeraerts6243 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thorens TD160 Super ?..................when well set up it is as good as a Linn.............!
    I used one with some teflon oil ...........platters turns for over 5 minutes .........and with a CU Micro Seiki mat/platter........wonderfull............

  • @chriskitsopoulos9851
    @chriskitsopoulos9851 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much it cost

    • @johnvincent4048
      @johnvincent4048 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Too much

    • @MrAricaudio123
      @MrAricaudio123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The price of the Super MM Phono stage is $2,475 with tubes in your choice of wood.

  • @rofgabor
    @rofgabor หลายเดือนก่อน

    to each his own, I don't get the design/looks inside out at all. But if it sounds great, that's a compelling reason.

    • @TheJoyofVinylRecords
      @TheJoyofVinylRecords  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Gabor! In the end it's really the music and the sound, just as you said.

    • @rofgabor
      @rofgabor หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheJoyofVinylRecords the fact that it's a one man operation explains the looks though. My brother only buys "artisan" gear from garages and his setup looks like a janitor's closet :)

  • @newriverratsam
    @newriverratsam หลายเดือนก่อน

    $2.5k

  • @ptg01
    @ptg01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did I miss the $$$ ???

    • @adamphillips6865
      @adamphillips6865 หลายเดือนก่อน

      $2,475.00 according to the website

  • @silversurfer493
    @silversurfer493 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... and this would set you back how many $$ ?? It looks awfully expensive...

    • @jaycoleman8062
      @jaycoleman8062 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm guessing 10k plus...

    • @MrAricaudio123
      @MrAricaudio123 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The price of the Super MM Phono stage is $2,475 with tubes in your choice of wood.

    • @jaycoleman8062
      @jaycoleman8062 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silversurfer493 that sounds like a really decent price in the grand scheme of things.

    • @silversurfer493
      @silversurfer493 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrAricaudio123 Not too bad! This sounds reasonable. Thank you for the information…. Seems I did not scroll far enough down ….

    • @MrAricaudio123
      @MrAricaudio123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silversurfer493 You're welcome and thank you for the interest!