Raging Bull (9/12) Movie CLIP - You Never Got Me Down (1980) HD
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CLIP DESCRIPTION:
Sugar Ray Robinson (Johnny Barnes) beats the hell out of Jake (Robert De Niro) to win by TKO, but Jake never goes down.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
Martin Scorsese's brutal character study incisively portrays the true rise and fall and redemption of middleweight boxer Jake La Motta, a violent man in and out of the ring who thrives on his ability (and desire) to take a beating. Opening with the spectacle of the over-the-hill La Motta (Robert De Niro) practicing his 1960s night-club act, the film flashes back to 1940s New York, when Jake's career is on the rise. Despite pressure from the local mobsters, Jake trusts his brother Joey (Joe Pesci) to help him make it to a title bout against Sugar Ray Robinson the honest way; the Mob, however, will not cave in. Jake gets the title bout, and blonde teenage second wife Vickie (Cathy Moriarty), but success does nothing to exorcise his demons, even as he channels his rage into boxing. Alienating Vickie and Joey, and disastrously gaining weight, Jake has destroyed his personal and professional lives by the 1950s. After he hits bottom, however, Jake emerges with a gleam of self-awareness, as he sits rehearsing Marlon Brando's On the Waterfront speech in his dressing room mirror: "I coulda been a contender, I coulda been somebody." Working with a script adapted by Mardik Martin and Paul Schrader from La Motta's memoirs, Scorsese and De Niro sought to make an uncompromising portrait of an unlikable man and his ruthless profession. Eschewing uplifting Rocky-like boxing movie conventions, their Jake is relentlessly cruel and self-destructive; the only peace he can make is with himself. Michael Chapman's stark black-and-white photography creates a documentary/tabloid realism; the production famously shut down so that De Niro could gain 50-plus pounds. Raging Bull opened in late 1980 to raves for its artistry and revulsion for its protagonist; despite eight Oscar nominations, it underperformed at the box office, as audiences increasingly turned away from "difficult" films in the late '70s and early '80s. The Academy concurred, passing over Scorsese's work for Best Director and Picture in favor of Robert Redford and Ordinary People, although De Niro won a much-deserved Oscar, as did the film's editor, Thelma Schoonmaker. Oscar or no Oscar, Raging Bull has often been cited as the best American film of the 1980s.
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Cast: Joe Pesci, Johnny Barnes, Robert De Niro
Director: Martin Scorsese
Producers: Robert Chartoff, Hal W. Polaire, Peter Savage, Irwin Winkler
Screenwriters: Jake LaMotta, Joseph Carter, Peter Savage, Paul Schrader, Mardik Martin
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A lot of people are giving a lot of credit to Scorsese and De Niro, and rightfully so. But I hope everyone can acknowledge how amazing Thelma schoonmakers editing is. Not only in this scene but her editing in the whole film. One of the first women to win the academy award best editing
yes, incredible!! the editing in this film just took it to a whole other level
No one really understands how much great post production influences and makes a great film.
@Skip Mickmack literally Martin Scorsese cares lol. He HIMSELF credited her for so much of his work and still continues to work with her even till this day. Obviously you know nothing about filmmaking if you think that the editor, especially this editor is useless
The editing on this movie is on another level, dynamic montages and rythm of the scenes are near perfect
She felt Scorsese should have won the Oscar because, as she said, every shot and every cut was planned by Scorsese during the fight scenes before any filming occurred
One of the most beautifully shot scenes in any movie ever
The way Scorsese uses the camera and his style of editing is the best I’ve ever seen!
Totally agree
@MUFC boxing
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@ Who was the play by play announcer when jake lost to Robinson the last time?
the shot at 0:51 was filmed on a boxing ring 4 times the size of a normal ring, combined with the dolly zoom this gives this shot really something special, like his opponent appears three times as big and there is no way out of this
I love this scene because it shows so perfectly the two ways a fight is won, Ray absolutely wins the physical contest but he's mentally destroyed by jake
It also transforms the ring in his perspective from a location into the institution of boxing as he basically says goodbye in this moment
The size of the ring changes throughout the movie depending on the fight to showcase Jakes mental state at the time
The moment when LaMotta gets close to Sugar Ray and says "You never got me down" is disturbing, his face is completely punched out with blood all spread over him, he can barely see and he is proud and happy at the same time. Could have been killed at the fight, but his only purpose was never to be KO, that was more important than living.
That's how you become immortal. He's dead but the boxing and sports community keep his image alive just like Ali and Dempsey
They left out the part where Sugar Ray caught him when he was about to fall LMAO!
Machismo some have it some dont i cant explain it
THis fight sequence seems to be more like a dream to me. I could see the protagonist waking up the moment after saying, You never got me down.
He wasn’t happy. This was physical atonement for his actions. He lets himself get pounded to a pulp because he is starting to see that he is the cause of his own problems but he doesn’t fully accept it until he is alone in the jail cell with no brother, wife or career. Beautiful and powerful.
I think the point being demonstrated here is that LaMotta was blinded by his pride. Even as the rest of his family looked on in horror as he was getting beat to a pulp, he considered never hitting the mat to be some kind of moral victory and instantly let Sugar Ray know it. Even though in reality Jake was the one standing there with the barely recognizable face.
They left out the part where Sugar Ray caught him when he was about to fall LMAO!
I am Jean Pierre, the Evil Puppet! This is exactly how I interpret it as well. Sugar ray is framed as if he is an angel coming down, giving Jake the divine retribution he knows he deserves. At the same time, it is a reflection of his pride as he knows he is going to lose, so he lets himself go out like a badass.
I am Jean Pierre, the Evil Puppet! Perhaps. The film layers a lot of catholic symbolism in the fights. I’m not religious at all myself but I LOVE when religious symbolism and certain concepts such as atonement are used in this way. The real LaMotta knew he was gonna loss the fight and let himself go out like a champ in style by getting pounded to a pulp. He never went up to Sugar Ray and said “you never got me down”. I do know that the scene in the jail cell, where he’s smashing his head and hands on the wall, is real. It’s just so emotionally raw and painful.
I think the "point" here is obvious it does not even have to be mentioned. WE ALL KNOW THE POINT. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN THERE... just feel it , don t talk about it :) It s about withstand, sacrifice, heroism , those kind of stuff..
@@pieter3842 Nope, some people need the guidance as they themselves might be blinded by pride and ego.
0:50 One of my favorite moments in film here, the complete silence and that haunting stare from De Niro is absolutely amazing
It's one hell of a shot that's for sure
That stare, with the sweat steam billowing off of jake is what I picture whenever I hear "rage"
For those who don’t know, Sugar Ray has killed opponents in the ring before, his punching power is nothing to scoff at. How Jake managed to live undamaged to 95 proves how much of a freak he is.
Catch weight fight ,
Jake was always the bigger guy .
Sugar was going up in weight to fight him after wooping everyone else at his weight .
Wait he actually killed people in the ring? Cant he go to jail for that
@@dude9318 no kiling in the ring isnt illegal its more seen as something thats unfortunate
@@dude9318 In combat sports, death is a risk (happens very rarely, but it does happen)... so thats why we gotta give credit to those who dare to step in the ring
@@dude9318 he killed one person, and actually felt immensely guilty over the act. He gave the earnings of the fight to the opponent’s mother. And no, he cannot go to jail or get any trouble since there’s a contract involved. Just an unfortunate accident
sugar ray looks a lot like zombie Michael Jackson no?
lmao
Lmfaoooo
HEE-HEEEEEEE!!!!
Max Rockatansky thought I was the only one....
Max Rockatansky well their fights were THRILLERS
Anybody else get chills when his eyes are swollen shut and he still manages to walk over to Ray to let him know he never got him down.
To bad that didn't really happen in real life. Great scene though. And yes Sugar Ray Robinson technically never put him on the canvas in any of the fights when Lamotta did knock him down.
0:51 this silent shot of Sugar Ray about to mess Jake up is intensifying
The shot at 1:03 is probably my favorite shot in cinema history
1:47 is pretty awesome too
Classic. This is the image of a man in a lifelong battle with his mortality, morality and self-worth. Timeless.
same, along with space odyssey and some godfather scenes of course
For me it's 0:49
1:43 is mine
I love how this scene was shot. We know that this is the end of his career and the start of his downfall. The best part is how visually we're told that our hero is the villain. Sugar Ray is painted like an angel with the low angle shots, camera flashes and lighting while Jake camera angle points down on him with dimmer light and smoke making him look like a demon.
Also, the lateral shot makes Sugar Ray look more superior. His fist represents a punch of justice.
Also, the lateral shot makes Sugar Ray look more superior. His fist represents a punch of justice.
Not so sure Scorsese was going for an angelic representation of Lamotta's arch rival. If this were true, Sugar Ray would be lit fully and not covered in shadow. The light points to his back not his face. His eyes tell the audience that he's packing a wallop for Lamotta and thinks it will surely put him on the ground. He is lit purposely to add to the brutal attack he unleashes. But, the smoke behind Jake reassures the audience that he is still a force to be reckoned with. And as a result he doesn't give Sugar Ray the satisfaction of a proper knockdown.
Also, the sound effects are essentially jungle sounds. Animalistic, which adds to the overall feeling
Huh, I took the symbolism as more like Sugar Ray was the Matador & Lamotta was the Bull. The Raging Bull gets put down for good by the Matador.
1:46 He's holding up his fist like a Matador's sword, about to deliver the killing blow.
RIP Jake LaMotta and RIP Sugar Ray Robinson.
im a raging narcissist like Jake and I will never go down for anybody. Just like the Bull.
@@gelsen888 no he wasn't
Ginamaria Hope that’s a joke
@@gelsen888 It certainly bordered on glorified fiction and typical hollywood rewriting of history
Tom Harrington You’re proud about that?
Shame that the best movie of the 80's didn't even win best picture.
I don't understand why people still care about the Oscar's, to be honest.
Rocky 3 was the best movie of the 80's.
The Shining
this came out same year as shining. both snubbed. Blade runner 3rd best of the 80s
@@pascalscherr5206 I thought joe pesci said no more shining...
I just love the way he says “you never got me down.” The first time he says it. Just the way he said it is just like “I wouldn’t take a victory where I didn’t knock the guy down, but eh we ain’t all built that way.”
One of the films that made me realise film as an art form, I will forever cherish it for that.
Absolutely. Same thing here
Greatest acting by De Niro."You never got me down Ray, you never got me down!!
Never happened in real life but yes great scene.
Wait, how didn't this film win for Cinematography?
Tess won
The cinematography is phenomenal here, but I think the editing is truly what makes this scene so effective, definitely one of the greatest montages in all of cinema. Thankfully, this film won for editing at the Academy Awards.
No, it didn't. This was an awesome and it should have won.
T Jones no !!!!
Hari Ashwath how didnt it win best picture best director
This scene is nothing short of a true masterpiece. It's cinematic art in every way. Thelma Schoonmarker is a master film editor.
I can’t explain why but the way he says “you never got me down Ray” is terrifying
it’s cause the audio is disjointed, and doesn’t really match his lips. i love it
The editing, my God! Brings all the emotions together.
This film did a good job representing how terrifying Sugar Ray really was.
I like how Sugar Ray doesn't seem to be enjoying this but he's just doing it because he has to. But there's no implied happiness.
I saw a interview of him where he said he did not like boxing at all, but he did because it was his job. In this scene, when LaMotta says to him "you never got me down", I like the look on the actor who plays Ray. Like he is thinking "what the hell is wrong with this guy?"
Greatest boxing actting scene ever filmed period. For Jake was able to take the most damaging of punches and not go down amazingly. "You never got me down Ray, you hear me", you never got me down!!
Did you even watch the real fight
It's so weird, with the bloody face, the make up, and that haircut the young Robert De Niro looks a little like John Bernthal. And Bernthal plays De Niro's son in grudge match, I didn't see it at first, but they do look alike.
Don’t forget the nose
battousai9795 they literally look like father and son
Dude I was literally thinking the same thing
The voice is similar too
Looks like when Jon Bernthal got beat up in "Sicario" 😁
Arguably the greatest scene in movie history pure beautiful
1980 was a great year for black and white cinematography: Raging Bull, The Elephant Man, Stardust Memories, did I miss any?
Eraser Head? 😏
@Betty M.: Eraserhead, 1977
Philip Brubaker the shining
Erik Bentley wasn’t black and white it was colored
Why did they put black and white? The rocky movie didn’t put black and white.
It's criminal that academy did not award Martin Scorsese for this movie.
That pull-in / Dolly shot or whatever you call it is iconic. Sound drops out and then comes the beating.
0:51 beautiful dolly zoom
He moved the camera or was optical? Both? What a shot...
ara garo He zoomed in whilst zooming out somehow
This film is along with Goodfellas the finest movie I've ever seen.
And yet Scorsese didn't win for either.
And neither film won best picture.
It's hard to believe.
They are both perfect in every way.
In this scene jake actually feels bad for all the hurt he caused vicky and joey so he feels like he deserves to take a beating but even tho he takes the beating he refuses to fall or get k.o it's the only win he can get while still losing and hes proud of the fact that no matter what ray threw at him it wasnt enough to knock him out...love this scene sends so many messages
Looks like Scorsese picked the world weirdest looking man to play Sugar Ray lol
12345balla12345 Has the right body but the face is terrible
Sugar Ray's hair definitely was like that though. They called him "fried and died" because of his hair
He Picked the Ugliest guy he could find to play Sugar!
He has a memorable face. Always go for that.
@@General_Klytus that's not nice dickface, I've watched this movie 1000 times and that aspect never occurred to me or even bothered me
This scene is pure pain. Amazingly well shot and cut!
The real Jake Lamotta had gone on record saying he NEVER said ' u didn't knock me down Ray' He respected Sugar Ray Robinson and vice versa.It makes for good drama though.
They left out the part where Sugar Ray caught him when he was about to fall LMAO!
@@CommKommando Mate wth are you talking about? he caught him? what?
@@CommKommando, cut-and-paste much? Folks, this is at least the third time this idiot has posted this exact same comment.
@@outis439-A, this idiot, Josh, is trying to say Robinson caught LaMotta-preventing him from falling. He feels better about himself by posting it in multiple threads.
And from my understanding it's the only thing that he strenuously disputed which always made me laugh. The movie makes him look like a monster and the only thing that really upset him was this scene.
Thank god for Thelma Schoonmaker.
@@gelsen888 She edited this film.
Best scene in the movie :)
Na
at 1:00 you can tell sugar ray knows jake is throwing the fight, and knows he just won’t go down. ray knows what he has to do and jake knows what’s coming.
He wasn’t throwing the fight. His offense was shot in the late rounds just as it was at the end of their last fight in real life, when ray got the stoppage.
@@jonmack2437 have u seen the movie dawg? he was literally told before this fight to take a fall and make it happen early. he still lost so he held up his end he just didn’t make it pretty like everyone wanted. he got pummeled to send a message.
@@wingman_gaming4900 I believe you’re thinking of the fight against billy fox, when the mafia told him to take a dive in exchange for a shot at the title. He and brother cried afterwards in the locker room. But this fight against ray wasn’t stopped early, it went into the 12th or 13th round
This sequence is pure perfection, from the lighting, the silence, and not to mention the masterful editing. One of the greatest scenes in any film, as far as I’m concerned.
Me : 1:01 Dad please, booze are destroying our family can you quit drinking?
My Dad response: 1:12
That's how I was with my sister 😢
@@arnoldjack7956 what!
@@bl5533 what??
At 0:44 one of the greatest examples of the vertigo effect
Saw this movie on the big screen at a revival house on 14th St. in NYC. Prior to that I'd only seen it on cable in the '80's. It's an amazing film. Scorsese is a master in the art of film making. This fight scene really must be seen on the big scteen to get the full feeling of LaMotta's words. My Mom loved this film. She said it reminded her of my Dad who had recently passed.
you never got me down, floyd! -Conor McGregor
you got me down, khabib, MUR MUR MUR! - Conor McGregor
It's not even close to the same thing. Lamotta has the greatest chin of all time, watch his fights, and Mcgregor's chin is pretty shitty for an elite athlete. Mayweather just doesn't hit that hard.
@SHAY RUTHERFORD Mayweather let him go 10 rounds. Listen McGregor's a good MMA fighter--leave it at that. He's not a boxer, he's achieved nothing in boxing, he got in the ring with a superior fighter, punched himself out, as Mayweather planned, and got TKOd--nothing impressive.
What if he fought The "Pretty Boy" Floyd instead of The "Money" Mayweather? Things could have been worse for The Notorious.
@@tassapaumavijani2240
It would've been similar to the Arturo Gatti fight.
Sugar Ray killed an opponent in the ring, LaMotta was lucky to still be alive at that point let alone still be standing.
Jake's chin is just extraordinary. And before Doyle's (the boxer who got killed by Ray) death, SRR had a premonition dream about it.
Lamotta had the greatest chin of all time. If you look at single attributes of fighters (and this is just me speculating): Roy Jones Jr.'s speed, Ali's footwork, Foreman's power, Mayweather's head movement, etc. I know these attributes are not the same thing, but if you were going to rank them I'd say that Lamotta's chin was the greatest of any boxing attribute/skill/ability in the history of the sport.
Sugar was lucky to get those 5 wins vs lamotta. Lamotta knocked him down in 3 dif fights sugar had the ref and judges on his side. Should've been 2 wins each ans 1 draw
Steven Solano knocking down is only a point lmao... that’s not how fights are scored
How did jake live till like 94 96
The cinematography is immense. The black & white wise angle shots. Perfect symmetry. It’s as if looking at Henri Cartier Bresson images.
This clip makes you feel things that are hard to put in words
Body horror but in real life.
LaMotta knocked Sugar Ray Robinson down 3 times and sugar never knocked him down but LaMotta got knocked down only once by someone (i don’t remember his name) but that just proves that LaMotta was strong in the ring (more like the ring of fire 🔥) they don’t call him the Bronx bull for nothing....
Pretty amazing. And considering Robinson was only (technically) stopped once in nearly 200 professional fights, his chin should rate as one of the greatest.
If you watch footage of the real fight, you can see that after the thunderous right in the 13th round, LaMotta is out on his feet and is falling to the mat, only to land on Sugar Ray and ricochet back into the ring. If he doesn't land on Sugar Ray on the way down, he falls to the mat. In fact, if the referee didn't stop the fight at that point, Sugar Ray would have not only knocked him down in the next 30 seconds, he might well have killed LeMotta, who was completely defenseless at that point.
The one rime he got knocked down , it was match fixing on his part
great movie! 2:30 i bet rays like "what the fuck?" lol
theeuprise
Well who wouldn't be when a bloody guy with eyes both shut bragging to you like a high pot smoker.
I love Redford, and his Ordinary Picture, but this should've win Best Picture. It's the superior film.
"You never got me down"
Now that line says it all💯👏
Dear Mr. Scorsese, i want to thank you for this piece of work that you've given us, till the end of my days I will remember you and your work, and I will also cry watching this... Absolute masterpiece.
R.I.P. Jake LaMotta & Sugar Ray Robinson! 🥊
Sugar Ray Robinson the greatest of all time.
They really had boxers physics a lot better in these older movies nowadays all the boxers look like professional bodybuilders in the movies
to me this is the best piece of cinema I've seen
*NEVER* let anyone knock you down. They can do whatever they will to hurt you. But they can get in your head. I know he's saying physically here. But that ain't all.
You can watch footage of the actual fight and it's not nearly as devastating as depicted here. Deniro doesn't block a single punch and leans on the ropes which I imagine must be illegal. It's a very strange movie.
I have seen the actual fight footage several times and ray robinson does land several devastating punches, but this is obviously dramatic licensing
The point isn’t really that it’s an accurate recreation of the fight. We’re seeing the whole film from Jake’s perspective and what’s telling is that this is the only match in the film shot like this.
From Jake’s perspective, this is going to be the worst beating of his life. It’s the beginning of the end and the shattering of the “Raging Bull” mythos
The greatest performance of De Niro's career. Mind boggling.
one of the best scene I've ever seen, the aesthetic is wonderful
"Alright Marty, how much blood will be in this scene?"
Martin Scorcese: "Yes."
when I watched this scene after Robinson finished that first barrage of punches I thought it was over until Robinson started raising his right arm with that " I'm not done with you yet expression on his face.
One of the best (if THE not best) movies ever made imo
UselessMedia! It’s up there
Rocky: "I never went down, Apollo, you never got me down".
still the most terrifying thing ive ever seen on film
It just clicked to me that Lamotta's hatred for himself was stronger than Robinson's will to win. Man, this scene hits.
He knew he was gonna lose by decision so he chose this route instead!
A crew member's hand can be seen pushing De Niro into the ropes at 1:36.
Yes I've always noticed that and the thing is deniro was a method actor and probably asked to be pushed into the ropes so it looked real but the person's hands got caught in the final frame
0:49 FINISH HIM
I get chills at the end one of those scenes ya never forget..
I remember watching this at the cinema when I was 9 years old, I never forgot thus scene.
the silence is what really gets me. i think that was a genius choice. when i watched the movie for the first time, my stomach was churning over that dead air paired with those intense looks.
One of the most brutal boxing scenes in all of history
I swear 1:00 - 1:40 looks like something out of a movie shot a few years ago
I LOVE this scene. 10/10
I only wish he had of kept his hands higher in the opening bit.
He just stands there without a guard for the first part.
Amazingly shot scene. I only wish the blood effects didn't look so silly. The splatter on his legs is an amazing touch but every time he "springs a leak" it just looks comedic.
sure sure sure.
It''s hyper realism, not realism. Rings ussually don't get suddenly dark and silent neither. It's all for expressive and subjective value.
"I’m not interested in a realistic look, not at all, not ever. Every film should look the way I feel." - Martin Scorsese
That ringside blood money shot though!
Try it some time, it's absolutely amazing how far it can spurt!
Masterpiece sequence from a master filmmaker Martin Scorsese. Thank you!!!
Not enough appreciation for the sound design in these comments
40 years later and still highly disturbing. God bless Martin Scorsese.
Arguably the greatest movie of all time and the greatest PERFORMANCE by an actor of all time.
Agreed and Raging Bull is My Favorite Sports Movie at #1!
Man, seeing Jake tell Ray he never got him down with that mangled face is pretty unsettling/disturbing.
Scorsese and de niro are so good that is scary,like how the hell they are sooo talented people? They give all no matter what. Thanks
I love this part, showing what a absolute psycho Lamotta is
A scoresesse masterpiece 🥊🥊🥊🥊 and the actor playing Robinson looks like Chuck Barry
Best movie sequence ever.
Great Scene. Dreamlike... Slow motion... 🎭
There’s no shame in losing to the GOAT, especially when you won once time, and like you said, “you never got me down, Ray.”
Cinematography at its best
This is truly one of the best scenes in cinema history!!
0:52 ( The sugar ) Left, right, left, right, up, down, up, down.....Fatality
Michael Lloyd I wanna see the X-Ray for this
He hit the wrong button a gave lamotta 30 lives.
“Hey Ray! I never went down Ray, ya neva got me down Ray..” that was cold! he knew that would eat at Ray’s soul forever, wondering if he is the better and stronger man.
It's impressive how the shutter flash and the glove strikes resemble the turning of the drum, the cocking and the shot of a firearm.
0:51 FINISH HIM
NEVER GOT ME DOWNLITTY!
The movie scene was a pretty accurate rendition of the 13th round of the real fight.
Lamotta had so much self-hate that he felt he deserved to be punished by Sugar Ray for all his past sins..
Especially for beating Joey up
One of the most genius scenes ever filmed.
Hey ray i never went down ray ..you never got me down ray you hear you never got me down rayy
Feel bad for that old dude that just got slapped with blood sweat water and shame
that all you got ray!
What an incredible actor wooow salute to legendary actor robert de niro 🔥❤
Blood strain was everywhere around the ring . Ray wast hardest pucher of his era. Even ray was tired of beating him But Jake was kept coming forward with his open guard.
Now days when i see boxing matches boxers start back paddling after one hard blow . Jake lamotta was insane undoubtedly Hardest chin in boxing history.