Plant This Honeysuckle, Not That Honeysuckle!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- Honeysuckle (Lonicera japonica) is a favorite vine for so many people. It's really unfortunate that it isn't more well behaved and is so invasive. However there is an alternative to the invasive exotic honeysuckle! Lonicera sempervirens is a native honeysuckle that can be easily managed by a home gardener. It doesn't spread like it's foreign cousin and is a beautiful plant to train on a trellis or vertical garden space!
So Plant Lonicera sempervirens and remove Lonicera japonica!
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'Major Wheeler' is a highly recommended variety of Lonicera sempervirens. I can't say for sure the variety I have since it was made from a cutting from my parent's garden who inherited the plant from the previous owner. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Thank you for addressing this! Have been planting native honeysuckle for the past few years. It's gorgeous and the hummingbirds love it!! People please, stop planting invasive species. I will be battling privet, japanese honeysuckle, and mimosa tree on my property until i die.
I'm in the exact same state. Privet is the worst! We bought land a few years ago to build on eventually and the privet is all over it. Too much to take care of when you aren't living there yet. That's at the top of my project list when we move there.
Oh geez, the mention of mimosa makes me want to scream, I’m battling a thicket of it on a steep slope!
This just broke my heart. I fell in love with that sweet smelling honeysuckle. Now in retirement, at my new home I discovered a honeysuckle vine. I came on yt to learn how to move it. Sigh
I'm sorry! Sometimes things we like aren't good for us. Japanese Honeysuckle is like having too much candy. If you want amazing fragrance consider Korean spice viburnum which is very well behaved as a shrub or witch hazel (native).
Thank you for speaking out on how invasive Lonicera japonica is! I loved it as a child, but now I also speak out about how invasive it is. Natives are so much better! We have two of the coral honeysuckle in our backyard, and just planted another in the front. It's such a beautiful plant, way prettier than the invasive, and the hummingbirds just love it!
You're welcome! It's all over our yard and takes a massive effort to remove it when it gets in the beds.
This plant has been around since I was a kid in the 50s. It's not anywhere near the problem that kudzu is.
The dark pink is amazing and smells soo good. Im in Australia.
Thanks. I have the coral one for hummingbirds. So I guess I have the non-invasive one.
I just planted a coral honeysuckle in my yard. I am also doing a butterfly garden for my mom and dad and planted a coral honeysuckle for them.
They will love it! It has helped keep our hummingbirds around this summer.
I will only use the white ones. Cause that is the nectar of life. Plus, I love eating that sweet nectar when the flowers turn yellow. I'll stick to those, thanks.
I'm in NC (Howdy, neighbor!) and we have Lonicera japonica practically everywhere. As you stated, it smells absolutely divine but it's takes over everything. I don't know which vine is more aggressive; honeysuckle, kudzu, or muscadine. I've always wanted to plant each one at the base of a 35' lattice cage to see which one would reach the top first.
This is a medicinal.plant look it up and start making tea
Excellent video, gonna replace the trumpet vine I got with Lonicera sempervirens!
Good choice! I'm a big fan of this type of honeysuckle!
Well invasive honey suckle took over here in Alabama in the 70s and 80s but because it's not native, Its all gone. Haven't seen any in the wild since the early 2000s
Although the Lonicera japonica is difficult to manage, it is one of the primary herbal flowers uses to treat corona viruses. It is under research at UCLA and UCSD in the pandemic era.
Great lil video thanks
wonderful video I just planted 1 on a arbor.
Thank you. I pulled up most of the invasive honeysuckle and bought the L. hispidula. I share a garden with my neighbors and they love their honeysuckle L. Japonica, so I couldn’t totally get rid of it. But I cut it back a lot and now keeping it in check as much as I can. My L. hispidula was hard to find and didn’t grow at all last year. I got her in a 1 gallon. Now she’s got about 4” of vine growth. I’m excited to see her blooms. Maybe next year?
Thank you for video 🙏🏼
NEW SUB!!! ...what about the orange flowering cape honeysuckle for bonsai ONLY? Maybe recommend this....
I was looking at a Major Wheeler honeysuckle at the plant nursery today. I want to keep my hummers around. I'm in Kentucky and that appears to be the only type that is sold around here. I want to put it in a container with a trellis.
But then there are aphids. Here in Indiana, aphids constantly disfigure both our fragrant and non-fragrant honeysuckle, despite our frequent spraying. We replaced one with clematis and are pondering another type of replacement for the other.
I honestly love invasive plants.. and I think that’s because I live on a desolate farm lol
So good to know about the invasiveness though fragrant (the Japanese variety). Too bad that the fragrant native kind doesn't have much fragrance; I guess the non-native Japanese variety (invasive) also applies to the Pacific Northwest (WA state near Tacoma).
I can't say for sure how invasive it is in Washington but my guess is that it would be. Here in Tennessee it thrives in the heat and humidity. It would be nice if the native had more fragrance.
@@Growingthehomegarden , thanks. will check at store; my husband had just bought me the Japanese variety so i was on youtube checking it out.
European varieties are more fragrant than the Japanese, and significantly less invasive. I like "serotina" or "harlequin" variants, and they both grow slower than my native "sempervirens"
You should get Lonicera Ciliosa then! Its native here @frances
I just bought couple of these plants at lowes didnt plant them yet but after seeing this vid I will be taking them back my idea was to plant them next to star jasmines but sounds like they would get destroyed by the honey suckles.
If you bought Lonicera sempervirens they are very tame and you shouldn't have much to worry about. Just avoid the Lonicera japonicas!
Whew! that’s the one I have - the red one. I just planted it ladt spring along my fence which is cattle fencing & cedar framed.
Only problem is something eats the leaves 😡
Where are you at in Tn? I’m in Manchester and I’m wanting to plant some coral honeysuckle. Will they come back each year?
Scentsation Lonicera periclymenum. Please recommend for the scented one
Great explanation
Glad it was helpful!
i am sure you can you grow the japonica in containers? like bamboo?
Hi I have a regular trumpet vine that's invasive. I want to replace it with something that hummingbirds would like that is kind of low to the ground so I can see them through my front windows. Do you have any suggestions I would really appreciate it. I know I'm going to have a really hard time getting rid of the trumpet vine and it also rooted down in a swamp and I guess I have to go down there and dig it up because it's invasive ugh!
Wow, I live in Las Vegas and I was just about to plant two large specimens. I’ll just plant in a pot for now for the smell. I’ll have to look up how to deadhead/removal of the aforementioned seeds so the birds do not transfer if that’s even possible. Bummer, and thank you for posting.
For sure! Seed saving is so important!
I'm also here in middle Tennessee but am new to the area. Do you have any videos about removing Privet as well as Callery Pear?
That is something I will be digging into eventually. We have some acreage where the privet is pretty prolific. It may be a year or so before I can delve into it fully. I hate using sprays but for invasive plants it may be necessary. For privet I have heard spraying the foliage in the winter when other plants are not green is the best time. Also you can cut them down and treat the stump with an herbicide. I don't think it is something that can ever be truly eliminated at this point. It's escaped into too many wild areas we can't control. The best thing we can do is eliminate it where we can and hold it back.
Have 12 varieties of honeysuckle. two varieties Harlequin and Miss Sue have me stumped. It might be too much sun? Roots are cool any advise to zero in to problem?
Thank you, thank you! I am constantly ripping out the invasive honeysuckle and briars. Not sure if I'll ever win against them but I'll never give up. They are nasty.
I don't think it is a winnable war but one that has to be done to prevent tge invasive honeysuckle from overtaking areas. It's tough!
Put a weed- or brush-killing liquid in a test tube. Put the end of a shortish branch of the honeysuckle into the test tube. Shortish because if it's too long the killer will kill off the vine before it gets to the root. I've killed what feels like miles of cowcatcher vine this way. You can watch it die, and just that quick. Kills nothing else nearby, unlike sprays. You'll see the whole of the plant die. Once dead, move the test tube to the next clump.
I just got a honeysuckle yesterday 😢, is called Robuste Vigne Grimpante honeysuckle vine will that be the same? The flowers are Mandarin color?
I just received some bare root Lonicera japonica 'Halliana' to plant along my fence. It seems like everything that I put on my fence dies due to the full sun. I'm trying to get some privacy along with attracting beneficial insects for my fruit trees and garden.
I just bought 8 of these plants, but after seeing this video I think maybe it's too much for my 24 foot wide lattice fence. How far apart should I plant them? Thanks.
I think 6 to 8 ft apart would be close enough to fill in your fence quickly.
Had a honey suckle in NY, I trimmed it as a tree using the strongest stem, and trimmed it every year, once after spring growth and once during the end of summer growth spurt, lovely fragrance and nicely shaped it was also very ornamental. In the fall the birds picked the berries, and I guess some people had surprises eventually in their gardens. In winter I wrapped it with Christmas lights for winter interest. I grew it by a small fish pond. Now in TN, I just got another honeysuckle and will train it up a fence in a box to contain and wack any creeper roots.
Try to get the berries off before the birds go after them and help reduce the spread a little. It really goes all over the place!
@@Growingthehomegarden the one I bought is a non invasive species from the UK, can’t wait to see what happens with it.
God created the plants to work the way they do for a reason ☺
I have the coral honeysuckle and I am impressed,I also have one and it produces white and yellow/ cream flowers..but has a upright shrub form,not sure what I have? Any idea
It could be a bush honeysuckle. If so it's another invasive plant species. I would recommend talking to someone in your area to verify it's identity. A local agriculture extension agent should be able to ID it for you.
There’s no point if it doesn’t smell like, well, honeysuckles
i have a hard time growing the non invasive ones in florida , i hear the plants like shaded roots but not vines so difficult . i wont give up though. i envy your yard hate having no seasons let alone all those awsome maples you have.
Everyone's climate is so different. I envy those who can grow citrus and avocados!
I recently planted a japonica variety "Mandarin." The garden center says it is sterile and not invasive. Is this type okay to grow?
If it truly is sterile it should be fine but may be aggressive in the garden. Other plants have been marketed as sterile varieties but actually were not like the Bradford pear tree. I would just keep an eye on it and if seeds do start to form remove them asap.
I would like to remove my Bougainville hedge, but don't know what to replace it with. I need a low privacy hedge.
How tall are you wanting a hedge to be? Also what climate zone are you in?
It seems like everything from asia is invasive here. Up here in northern ontario we have a huge issue with japanese knotweed. One of the most resistant and widespread and dangerous invasive species on the planet
That really seems to be true. Anytime you have a plant that naturally develops in a different region it will have different survival traits. Then when it gets picked up and moved to another environment it still operates the same and will often out compete the natives. We have knotweed around here too. Stiltgrass, privet, callery pear and all kinds of plants that don't belong here.
Plant haskaps honey berries to there also really good and edible.
do they taste good
In New Mexico, there's so little water, that there are few plants that become truly invasive. The scarlet honeysuckle has no notable scent to speak of. I wish I'd gotten the Japonica, instead.
which ones are evergreen? any of them, in NC? Any thoughts on lonicera periclymenum? TIA
I haven't seen that L. periclymenum here in TN and after doing a little research it doesn't appear invasive yet. It may be better contained than the invasive Asian variety. Since it is a European variety is seems to do better in cooler climates. I don't know how it would do in NC though. Your weather is much like ours.
@@Growingthehomegarden Thank you for your reply. I am looking for an evergreen/semi evergreen. Sadly I think the L. periclymenum i got is dead. All the stems have dried/brittle. Hoping its like clematis (dried branches) that are live. But I think its a gone. :-(
We went to dumbo in brooklyn and its polluted he found a common honeysuckle but is it ok if we can eat them in the bad air?
Honestly I can't tell you for sure on that. Plants can filter some pollution however I would be careful and just leave it alone if you are concerned.
I thought I had 'honeysuckle' in my fields and tree lines but what I call honeysuckle is a shrub with mostly white flowers that look like honeysuckle. any clues as to what I have. I'm in SW Wisconsin.
It's possible it is a bush honeysuckle which is different but also invasive. (Lonicera maackii)
@@Growingthehomegarden Thanks I'll look it up.
what do you think of the pink honeysuckle variety? is it invasive? :(
Hey I’d like to use this to provide shade for my parents backyard in NY (Brooklyn) is this plant suitable for NY weather? It would get plenty of sunlight but there are fences around so there is usually shade at th sides (where id likely plant them) at dofferent times of the day
It should do fine in your area. It can take some shade just fine. The more shade the less blooms you get but I think where you plan to locate should get you some good blooms. Ours blooms big in the spring then doesn't put out as much in the summer due to foliage on that crape myrtle. It still attracts hummingbirds though!
I almost bought a honeysuckle today! I already have other vines. I will just grow fruit berries and passionfruits instead
You will probably enjoy those more! At least you will be able to harvest the fruits.
It’s good in Canada
I have honey suckle not Japanese honey suckle but I haven't identified the type yet I think it's the one native to my area
It may be the Japanese one. It's overtaken so many of the natives that the natives are hard to find.
Hi I have a pinky red honeysuckle in my garden , I know the yellow flower one is edible, are all types of honey suckle edible please ? Thank you
The flowers of Lonicera are edible but don't eat any of the rest of it including the berries. The berries are poisonous but the yellow flowers should be fine.
Thank you for answering so prompt!
You're welcome!
interesting title.
Hi I am looking how to make a honeysuckle vine into a bush any help would be greatly appreciated thank you
You would need to keep it pruned back to a central stem. Probably would start with a leader tied to a stake then prune the side shoots periodically to send energy back into the leader. As it gets stronger you may be able to remove the leader. That would probably take a couple years to accomplish.
@@Growingthehomegarden thank you for your help
Create a ball with chicken cage wire, make the ball as big as you like and it will grow all around it as you will help promote direction
I had THIS honeysuckle, but it doesn't smell like the THAT honeysuckle. And it's no problem in my yard. It is manageable if you take care of it.
Just remember that if it’s fruiting and being disbursed by birds, it’s not being managed.
There is another invasive shrub style honeysuckle and it is just as bad,through bird dispersal will spread like wildfire..I don't know the botanical name..if you could elaborate maybe on that species?? Ty
You probably mean the Amur honeysuckle or Lonicera maackii. It's all over here in Tennessee as well. It's very noticeable this time of year with its red berries. Which is of course why it spreads so easily. Native viburnums would be good replacement plants for them.
Anybody have any experience with “serotina”?
Well we want that fragrance! That’s the whole point of honeysuckle! Can’t beat the smell I can deal with it taking over! And privacy
Yeah, it has a nice fragrance but it is a very damaging plant and escapes captivity. It's hard to control in your yard and will escape it through seeds eventually. There are better choices for plants to keep for fragrance reasons.
The red honeysuckle has more nectar in it in my experience. Like a big sweet drop of juice
It's supposed to be better for the native hummingbirds, could be why!
From what I understand, the berries are almost devoid of nutrition for the birds too. Like a junk food.
Yet another good reason to plant something better!
What is the common name for the red one?
Lonicera sempervirens is the botanical name but there are several common names for it. Coral Red Honeysuckle is one. A common variety for it is 'Major Wheeler'.
Neither of those looks like my Cape Honeysuckle.... I’ve got much smaller darker leaves
Cape honeysuckle is a different species.Tecoma capensis. Common names can get things mixed up sometimes!
Does this grow native an all southern Ohio too?
It is native to the eastern United States including Ohio. Although the invasive variety is probably more common now.
are they evergreen?
Lonicera sempervirens is deciduous in most places. In warmer climates it can stay evergreen though.
Even thought the lonicera japonica honeysuckle is not beautiful as the red honeysuckle you mentioned, but you don’t know the medicine use for the lonicera japonica honeysuckle which is good for skin problem like eczema, and it help a lot of skin problems if you use them to wash the area or make them for the tea to drink. On the other hand, the red honeysuckle that you mentioned in the video are toxic and only able for the ornament.
I can't verify this. In my searches it seemed to indicate that both varieties had toxicity that could cause reactions. Since it is also medical advice I will not be advising anyone on using honeysuckle for treatments. My focus for this video was to help inform about an invasive plant in the United States.
But, does it taste good like the other one?
Unfortunately it doesn't. It really doesn't have much flavor at all.
Is the non-invasive honeysuckle flowers still medical?
It does have some medical benefits to treat asthma, bee stings, and sore throats. I've never used it that way so I can't validate its effects and of course consult your doctor before use. 😉
The berries are edible.
Is another name called a firecracker honeysuckle?
It's not the same but similar in that Lonicera sempervirens was crossed with a European honeysuckle which made 'Firecracker'. Firecracker honeysuckle is Lonicera heckrottii. It is listed as invasive in some states.
@@Growingthehomegarden It's deciduous unfortunately, I recently bought the passion fruit and found out it is, does it have unattractive bark when it's not in flowers and leaves have fallen off? I should of checked before I bought if it is deciduous.
Thing is, japonica is evergreen, and others are not.
Why does that matter if it is invasive?
But the only reason I want honeysuckle s for the sent
I get it. Every loves it for that reason. There's plenty of it out there though and you will smell it when in bloom even if it isn't in your garden. Just opt for better options in your planting beds.
Get a European honeysuckle
...why tf would you recommend replacing honeysuckle with something that doesn't offer that same smell?
"Hey! I know you like hamburgers! But have you tried this hammer? It looks neat! No, it doesn't taste like a hamburger, but you know..."
Because I'm offering a suggestion for a native version that is better for our wildlife and the local ecology. Something that doesn't run amok in the garden. Sometimes a better solution may not have all the favorite features. There are plenty of plants out there that aren't invasive that offer fragrance.
It's futile nature will win haha
UHHHH UHHHHHHHHHH. 😂 you lost me when you said it doesn’t smell. And it’s not edible.
The honeysuckle you like is eating the south. There's still plenty of it out there for you to enjoy. Just try planting some of the native types to improve things a little. It's not going to be eliminated but we need to provide the things are native insects and animals will like better.
Get rid of that crepe myrtle it's just as invasive, it's not native plant a redbud of a dogwood they are native to NC.
Pretty sure you're alternative isn't edible. The Japanese kind isn't invasive in my part of Texas. I'll stick with it.
How do you know it's not invasive there? I realize Texas isn't a monoclimate, but Japanese honesuckle is considered invasive in Texas and all its neighboring states.
@@burntorangehorn It's the dry climate. Very few things just take off here.
No plant, animal or living being is invasive. If it thrives in your environment, it is 100% allowed to be there and no human has any part in that decision. People don’t get to decide what living thing born on this earth is invasive and what isn’t. Especially when we are driving cars, building roads and buildings that completely destroy ecosystems. So any time I hear a human saying “don’t plant this plant, it’s invasive!!” I add that plant to my list to try to plant more of. Remember that no living being born on this earth is more invasive than a highway
"No plant, animal, or living being is invasive." Interesting statement. You disprove your point in your own comment by referencing humanity building roads as being invasive. Invasive doesn't mean these plants and animals don't have a right to exist. It means that the local ecosystem has not adapted with them. When that new species comes it takes over and destroys habitat for native plants and animals. They are destructive.
" If it thrives in your environment, it is 100% allowed to be there and no human has any part in that decision." Since humans by and large were the ones who brought invasive plants to new areas the human already had a part in the decision. It was a mistake that has caused profound damage.
@@Growingthehomegarden My comment still stands, though. No living being is invasive, no matter where it is. Just because humans can be dumbasses and want to ruin ecosystems doesn't mean they themselves are invasive. Humans do not dictate what the local ecosystem is, regardless of our pretend error of bringing species into it. At the end of the day that process is still bringing an animal from earth to another part of earth. If it dies, it doesn't belong there. It it thrives, it certainly belongs there and no human decides otherwise. Nature always prevails.
All land, water and air on earth is one. Just because an animal being brought into an area it "doesn't belong in" and now it's "destroying the ecosystem" doesn't make it any less natural for the circumstance it's currently in. Ecosystems are and will forever be everchanging, and no human will ever be able to say any living being is invasive and have it be an authentic statement. Even if humans never existed, the ecosystems will always change regardless if there is a natural shift in the ecosystem or something extraordinary happens. However, the things humans have done and continue to do will forever be more invasive than any plant or animal being in a place it "doesn't belong" because humans think they know everything
I’m looking online for more tree of heaven seeds. But the only seeds are in china. Not sure they would grow or sprout. The seeds I got before from BC. Need to make a trip and get some again. But have not other reason to drive 8 hours
Tree of Heaven is highly invasive. Please don't plant it. It's a pest plant here in Tennessee, one I've been actively weeding out of garden beds.
Wish that would happen here in Alberta. I was trying to grow a tree of heaven. But it gets to cold here in winter. Did not survive. And I like the looks of the tree of heaven. I ran out of seeds. I want to try one for just inside the house.
Someone living where the tree of heaven grow you want to mail me a few seeds so I can have one inside the house over winter.
Morrow's Honeysuckle....Lonicera morrowii. Safe? I cannot find any info on this!