Rivers of America DEMOLITION Announced for Walt Disney World - D23 News
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- In this Breaking D23 News Update, Brayden gives his thoughts on today's announcement by Disney that the Rivers of America, Liberty Square Riverboat, and Tom Sawyer Island will be demolished at Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom to make way for a new Cars-themed attraction. This is Mickey Views News!
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Another example how we are losing our history and forgetting who we are.
I'm sorry, is your last name Disney? You are a fan of an amusement park, who's goal is to make money for their investors. You're not losing any history or identity, as this is an amusement park, not a national park, not a national cemetery, not a historical landmark. Get a grip....
@@BTBEV3469 yeah and according to attendants it seems investors don't like how the parks are running also I bet Walt Disney would not like this happening to his story in this park
I like how Disney forgot that DISNEY WORLD is the place with endless land to develop, and that DISNEYLAND is the only park which has to conserve space.
What makes even funnier is they do have a new area to grow in Disneyland.
I don't think the Imagineers ever leave California anymore. They don't know anything about WDW and don't care.
@@CUTravel1stIt’s political, it’s not about space.
Right. It's a chance to rid themselves of Tom Sawyer.
@@Anthony-rb8ib seriously. A+++ comment. 🙌👍
Absolute most peaceful part of the park. People deserve a place to rest and not be inundated with 24/7 stimuli.
Dude this is on point
Yes, and it's a THEME Park not an IP fair. I have no problem with IP attractions, but not everything can be IP. Mainstreet is not IP, why not put Cars there? I'm so mad I don't think I can every enjoy Disney again.
Walt Disney loved Frontierland. Current Disney management and Imagineering hates Walt Disney.
Half of California's original Frontierland was scrapped with the construction of the Star Wars area and Nobody said nothing - not even about the reduction in size of Rivers of America or the re-railing of Railroad. When Fantasmic started operating again, you quickly forgot about it.
@@humbertoribeiro3192Thunder Ranch was honestly a part that Disney never really knew what to do with. It’s not really the same thing. It was originally just excess space on the Mine Train Through Nature’s Wonderland. The Rivers of America were slightly downsized, but the Imagineers made the land along it more beautiful than ever. It’s decidedly different from gutting the rivers of America entirely and replacing them with CARS of all things
@@humbertoribeiro3192 The big difference is thats Disneyland has very limited space and therefore can't afford low density areas. But this is completely different with Magic Kingdom. They have unlimited expansion space, so why not just leave the more quite areas to the people who enjoy them? And even if you never went to the island, the island and river is still a beautifull backdrop for the land and adds so much flair. Unfortunately flair is something the current Disnely leadership has never herad of.
@@humbertoribeiro3192 Over-exaggerate much? The majority of Galaxy's Edge was built on off stage / warehouse property. Yes the railroad and river were moved inboard.
What half of Frontierland was "scrapped" dramarama?
They knew to say nothing about this during D23.
I don't know, most of the ppl that attend D23's are so "Disneyfied" that they will cheer about ANYTHING the Execs say/do there. They could announce a new bathroom opening in Adventureland and the whole place would erupt in cheering and applause! If they had announced the river and TSI closing, the least that would have happened is some grumbling and likely some applause over the hype the Execs would push about it.
They would have gotten booed off the stage if this had been clear.
And that says it all.
@@gc4644I remember both Alice Thru the Looking Glass and Lion King 2019 got standing ovations when I went to D23. I even remember crowds loving the Pinocchio remake on Disney+. I just don't understand them
@@gc4644 from the sounds of it the Cars announcement had a very luke warm reaction in the crowd compared to other announcements. Heard some d23 ppl complaining about certain things to other fans so it's not all cheers.
ITS BEYOND shady that they didn’t announce this at D23
But that's what Disneyco. does best. Shady, Down and Dirty.
Haha, I love how Brayden showed a pic of Dark Universe while reading Disney’s blog about Villains being the first of its kind.
Yeah I was like, wait a second, this looks familiar. 🤣
Shade thrown 🤣
We laughed out loud. Brayden is the best 😂
LET'S GO BRAYDEN!!! 😉😊
Thanks for pointing that out. I went back to rewatch that section. Excellent editing from Brayden!
This is like destroying Central Park in New York and replacing it with buildings and sidewalks. It's a slap in the face to Walt Disney and his original vision of the Magic Kingdom Bob Iger, step in and stop this madness or you'll be forever known as the guy who killed Frontierland. What's next, putting condos up on Main Street? There is no logical reason for this truly bad decision.
Please don't give them any more terrible ideas...
I’m not against a cars land, I just don’t want it in Magic Kingdom, Hollywood Studios would be a better fit
i am not even against it in the MK ... just NOT THERE .... they have the land to expand without RUINING THERE OWN PARKS yet again
totally agree
Agree. HS needs more rides.
I agree…but where would to put it? DHS isn’t very big and there isn’t a lot of room for expansion there.
I think it's even fine in Frontierland. Demolishing the river to build it just sucks. (I honestly don't have much of an opinion on Tom Sawyer Island. Do people go there often?) The river boat is really important to give people something to watch and look at while they're in a line or tired from walking around.
I really like Cars and this move is going to make other people only hate it MORE. 😢
We need to start a petition to stop them from removing Tom Sawyers Island and Rivers of America at Magic kingdom!!!
What a thing for idle people 😂
Petitions don’t actually help anything sadly. We can only hope and pray :/
I’m beyond furious. Disney executives are just taking a massive dump on Walt’s vision and legacy.
I doubt he would’ve cared as much as fans do
@@sideeswipe You're right, would have cared MORE. At Disneyland, he put that river in there because of nostalgic feelings for the western frontier and his love for steam power with the riverboat. Now...whether or not he could be convinced to have the river demolished in favor of a cars ride, considering Magic Kingdom is not his original park...that's up to speculation. But he cared very deeply about what would change and why...it's the very reason that while he was alive, only he could decide what went into Disneyland and how the Anaheim park was altered or changed.
If we stuck with Walt's vision and never changed, no animal kingdom, Hollywood studios or the rides we have now. Disney would become like one of those local amusement parks that never change. Maybe that's what you want.
@@HoleintheBucket I disagree. I think the point the original poster was making was that his vision and ideals and character are being lost. He NEVER wanted parks to be stagnant, but he ALWAYS wanted the guest to be inmersed.
@@HoleintheBucket That's ridiculous. They have plenty of room to expand while preserving what is probably one of the most nostalgic parts of the park. Walt was all about the past, present and future and showed us how to do it correctly.
Nice of disney to organise a massive fan gathering, but keep quiet the fact they are ripping the heart out of the magic kingdom, and announce it after d23! Sums up disney really
Thanks for highlighting Walt's own idea of what Frontierland is meant to be. Obviously, no one at Disney Corporate cares about one man's dream.
@@tnchristy424 no they care about the many share holders stock dividends
They're goona gaslight us at Disneyland w/ a Walt animatronic spouting out soundbites we've all heard for the past 70 years and pretend it's a history of Walt explaining to us why he built the parks. Sad.
@@porkins74
"i built these parks for-" "eye-" "PEE"
@@supathechesthe literally sketched out his business plan and in that business plan you could see more IP integration was planned, but if you wanna be in denial you can be in denial
@@infinitez4186 i have never been to a disney park
They seem almost strategically focused on stamping out classic/nostalgic Americana from the park. It’s like they despise or are embarrassed by it.
It's the former - they despise it. It's the same mentality as the recent dismantling of historical monuments. The rugged, self-sufficient individual is their enemy.
I put this not on WDI, but on Jeff Vahle and the penny pinching WDW management team. Disneyland has space issues, not WDW. Vahle needs to go!
Since the Reedy Creek District was dismantled, DW must now apply for permits and pay taxes on new construction but not as much for renovations of existing structures.
@@enagreco3280this is BS and not really true here. This process to replace rivers of America with cars land will absolutely be treated as a new project.
WDI is forced to do what they're told. I'm not even sure Vahle or D'Amaro are most responsible this time. The Cars project in particular has Iger's fingerprints all over it
@@MickeyViewsanything bad has bob ogres grubby fingerprints on it, especially when it has to do with ruining Walt Disney world, the man has a hate tick for the Florida parks despite it being the golden goose of the company. If it ain’t China or Disneyland, it ain’t for Ogre.
“Anything woke turns to 💩” Orange Man
The Rivers of America has been downsizing for decades. They used to have the Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes which I had the great pleasure of experiencing. As well as Mike Fink Keel Boats which was one of my favorites! I haven't seen Aunt Polly's cafe open in years, but I've heard it is open on rare occasions. As usual, less and less and less until Disney says, "Hey, not enough people are visiting the Rivers of America anymore--let's bulldoze it." A self-fulfilling prophecy.
Noooo. Imagine waiting in line for Haunted Mansion with no riverwater next to it. Instead, we'll see Cars Land? And no more sights and sounds of the Liberty Belle? Very sad. That area is a huge part of the charm of Magic Kingdom.
This is Terrible
100%. Super short-sighted.
@@chrischettle6905 current Disney leadership doesn't understand "charm" or what made Disney unique. All they understand is "IP" and "Money". The irreversible, irreparable damage that's being done under Iger"s leadership is heartbreaking.
Yea I'll get over it. ....bigger and better baby
@@ryancampbell955 Agreed. I've lost faith in Iger and D'amaro. I wish there was a way to make an Imagineer like Tony Baxter or Joe Rhode a co-CEO.... kind of like a Walt and Roy scenario.
I bet Universal/Comcast hasn't stop laughing and celebrating yet.
My fondest memories of Disney parks are the immersive theming, NOT the IPs-spending hours on Tom Sawyers island, frontier land, jungles of Adventureland, etc. I was practically raising on Disneyland 😢
I love all the details in the Disney parks. The imagineers thought of everything. That’s why I praised the projection of Icabod Crane this year going this is amazing.
This is just Six Flags level theming. I’m sorry but it is. Throw a ride here who cares if it makes sense. Who cares Disney just wants to make money off lighting lane and can’t do that with Tom Sawyers Island.
that and CLASSIC (opening to late 1990's) Epcot .... I guess i am blessed to go to the MK and Epcot in their PRIME .... I dont even WANT TO GO to WDW now
Bingo. As a kid being able to use your imagination was inspiring. Now you have no need for an imagination, you just consume their IP and they hope you buy the associated merch.
MK is the most IP heavy park! What are you talking about 😂
Just playing devils advocate here, but it's all well and good us older folk (maybe some older than others) having fond memories, but young ones don't entertain the old stuff. I've not stepped foot on / in any of the stuff that they are proposing to remove since I was in my teens. Last 3 times I have been no one has been bothered for them and we bypass them for the rides.
This is exactky why Tokyo Disney Resort is the best theme-park resort in the world; we, Japanese, take care of our stuff unlike Americans
Japan is starting to feel more like the America I loved that here.😢
You guys are killing it, in that regard. It’s a cultural strength. We watch videos of vintage electronic shops in Japan, and many old things are so well cared for. On the flip side, the old homes in the countryside are fully abandoned, like someone walked away with just the clothes on their back.
America is one big giant greedy corporation. Japan? Preserves its history, has a strong and positive culture, and a million years ahead of America. My dream is to visit Tokyo Disneyland one day
Imagine having 40 square miles of land and still demolishing loved attractions for half-funded, lazy, IP based expansions.
Edit: I know Tom Sawyer’s Island is underutilized, but the Magic Kingdom has a ridiculous amount of expansion pads. There’s built in expansion plots above Big Thunder, above Small World, above Little Mermaid, above the railroad line, and below pirates. These plots were all set aside decades ago for future expansions, so they should be buildable land. The real reason why Cars is going to replace TSI is because executives don’t want to dish out the money required to clear brush, grade the area, and add utilities.
is it all useable?
Hardly anyone enjoyed TS Island. Have you been over there? We used to go over there as kids and the place was always packed. There's never anyone there, why waste the space for nostalgia nobody cares about?
@@J.Halllll rivers of America was used a lot and they have room else with everything so crowed adding new attractions is a good way to handle it other than add a revelation system
I just hope they put trees and shade in the new areas. I was at the parks last month and it was absolute misery to walk around any park other than Animal Kingdom with the heat.
The heat radiated off of the pavement/ground in the newer areas of the parks that have absolutely no cover (e.g. Toy Story Land @ Hollywood Studios). Just miserable.
@@jonnym4670no man. No one cares about that area outside of whiny people online.
Just one side note, who asked for Cars? No seriously. Is the really in high demand like Villains? Doubt it.
Execs and bean-counters probably asked for it.
Cars is an absolutely massive brand when it comes to merchandise sales, especially for kids. This reeks to me of them making an area so they can market the IP even more heavily in the parks.
@@DX115FALCON I agree, and surely the IP is better suited to Hollywood Studios. There, the execs could have their marketing opportunity, without destroying such an iconic and beloved part of the Magic Kingdom. Piece by piece, the Disney legacy is being destroyed. It's tragic.
@@themagicandmore absolutely agree. MK, in my opinion, should be kept free of IP as much as possible beyond "the classics". It has a timelessness about it that it's really hard to capture if there's vast sections of the park based on a very, very contemporary IP.
Hollywood Studios or, under current management, Epcot seems to be the dumping ground for IPs, and would absolutely be a better fit for something like this.
My wife and I hate it. To me it’s another example of Disney doing things on the cheap and having no honor for their history as they canibalize their parks and attractions. Will Disney ever have to close their doors? That seems far fetched, but certainly possible. And I think moves made in this manner are going to be clearly to blame.
This is what happens when we have the woke in control of Disney.. They have No respect or honor. They hate everything about America and the American people. It's just absolutely ridiculous that they have the Worst choices for the people who can make decisions about what the American people like
This certainty won’t be on the cheap. Radiator Springs Racers at DCA is likely the same ride system and it is estimated to have cost +$200 million. The concept for this appears to be more ambitious than RSR, and will likely cost more, not even considering the cost of filling in the Rivers of America and demolishing Tom Sawyer’s Island. While it would have been nice if it went to undeveloped land behind Big Thunder, Tom Sawyer’s Island has been significantly declining in popularity along with the riverboat. So out of all attractions at MK, those two are were probably the best choices. In addition, it allows even more land to be available for Villains.
@@inversesyntaxWhen we say cheap, we’re not talking about the price tag, and you know this. This is cheap in that it’s poor theming and poor storytelling.
Inexpensive vs expensive
cheap vs high-quality
Two very different meanings.
Something can be completely cheaply made and low quality and still be super expensive.
It’s exactly what Disney is turning into cheap low-quality low effort at top dollar prices.
@@inversesyntaxEven though something costs $200 million doesn’t mean they won’t cheapen out. There are many ways to save money while still spending $200 million. Just look at World Celebration at Epcot as an example and that was said to cost around $1 Billion.
I remember Walt saying, “Here in Florida we have the blessing of size. Meaning instead of expanding the parks, we’ll sell the land for a quick buck and implode our attractions when we face competition. If we can dream it, we can doze it.”
Yeah, that last line really hits.
I love Cars land at DCA... But eliminating Rivers of America is a tragedy.😭
Exactly
What I really hate is how every park is just becoming an IP dumping ground for anything and everything. Like, the “theme” part of the theme parks is going away and it seems like anything goes these days. Pretty soon you won’t even be able to differentiate the difference between a park like Hollywood Studios and the Magic Kingdom. It’ll just be a series of lands based on existing IPs that could be more or less interchangeable between the parks.
I already don’t like how literally every addition to the parks must be based on existing IPs and not original ideas (so many of the greatest Disney attractions like the Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain, Matterhorn, etc. are all original ideas not based on movies), but the overall homogeneity between the parks themselves is really becoming a massive issue in my mind. Cars, for instance, doesn’t belong or fit into Frontierland at a Magic Kingdom-style park. Doesn’t make any sense at all. I truly cannot stand Disney leadership as they continue to destroy everything great about their parks. It’s so incredibly frustrating and disappointing.
Makes me want to throw up 🤮
That is exactly what Universal does, and everyone praises them for it. Any land from the new Epic Universe would fit in Islands of adventure, and vice versa. Specific areas can still try to maintain a theme, but the era of an entire theme park having a consistent theme is over. Animal Kingdom is still trying to at least incorporate animals in some way, and Epcot is... uh.. EPCOT, but Hollywood Studios and increasingly MK, is just a selection of lands that don't really have anything to do with each other.
@@mushieslushie hey man, I just call it like I see it. Disney is supposed to be better than universal, yet I’m more excited about Epic than any of these Disney announcements. I also don’t think that the “theme” part of a park is something that should die. I hold the Disney parks to higher standards than becoming a mess of totally unconnected movie IP lands.
You’re ignoring the historic aspect of a park like Magic Kingdom as well. It was Walt’s own creation and it does actually have a cohesive theme (not to mention the individual lands themselves having themes as well). Just because that’s how universal sometimes does things doesn’t mean it’s a good thing for Disney to do.
The fact that MK _is_ on the brink of becoming a mess of unconnected IP doesn’t mean it’s the right move by leadership, and just because it’s happening doesn’t mean I have to like it or accept it. The integrity of the parks is increasingly being diminished, and that is a bad thing.
Seeing Walt’s vision being trampled on solely for the sake of making money is something that I very much disagree with.
I have the perfect quote for this
"Im surrounded by idiots"- scar
NO!!!! Don’t want to lose Rivers of America!
Remember what they did to Epcot? Get ready for the next Disney down grade.
Thanks for including the clip of Walt reading what Frontierland represents! So sad that they are DESTROYING such a beautiful and tranquil area of the park 😢 It makes no sense!!!!
So true it is just truly horrible 😢🤮
they ruined EPCOT , now they will start doing the same thing to the Magic Kingdom. They had plenty of other space for this, but it's about erasing Walt's love of the American frontier
Nobody cares Tom Sawyer Island...
@@humbertoribeiro3192The ratios say otherwise.
Agreed. The demolition of Innoventions West showed a complete lack of vision and sustainability. They could have repurposed that huge building AND put a roof garden atop to view the lagoon shows. Destroying the Rivers of America is a whole 'nother level of stupid.
@@humbertoribeiro3192it’s not Tom Sawyers Island that they love. It’s the waterways and atmosphere the area has, walking on the boardwalk along that river with a steam powered paddleboat passing by. It’s set in a period of time where cars did not exist, not just an area of the country. I understand the decision but I wish they could pull it off differently than this.
if they put it nearly anywhere else (hell they have the damn land for it ) i'd like it ... but not to take out one of the only things in Disney Parks I still like
I weep for the future. So glad my memories include going when there was just the Magic Kingdom, and it was so clean and beautiful.
When Disney had class … and wasn’t vulgar 😭🥲
I feel all pixar stuff should be in Hollywood studios....but thats just me....instead give us more haunted things/ cursed stuff to fit haunted Mansion/big thunder....and lead into a much larger Villainous area
Rumor has it that the current Executive Board at Disney & Kathleen Kennedy will have their own attractions in the villain's land
RIP Tom Sawyer and Riverboat
My faves, but onwards and upwards
@@esta8651 is it upward though?
@@eljefemaximo5420 No.. it is not
yall say anything
You never know, maybe they can repurpose the river boat as a transport boat in the lake to take people from the parking lot to the gate like the other ferry boats
getting rid of the rivers of America and replacing it with a Cars area is like them demolishing Cinderella Castle and and replacing it with the castle from frozen.
Disney is destroying their parks for the sake of IP. Its very sad to see.
Maybe people should have gone to the island. Last time I went I barely saw anyone. It's just extra space currently
@@Scott25368 Did anybody try those arcade games?
But epic universe is just ip. While one excited for it, im curious why they’re making a 3rd land theme to Harry Potter again.
It's Iger's vision ! Synergy!!
@@bloodflow82 They are destroying their parks for the sake of DEI.
Destroying a tribute to America to build some shrine to villainy could not be any more modern day Disney.
Who cares about the American continent?
@@humbertoribeiro3192 People who live here? Nah
Now I fear for what they weren't telling us on what else they plan to demolish...
You should
What do you mean Brayden……….
@@MickeyViews Tell us more. What have you heard about demolitions in other Disney parks?
Muppets is gone and Star Tours.
@@MickeyViews Did you just tell us that MuppetVision 3D is being demolished without telling us that MuppetVision 3D is being demolished?
Loved how he just shoved Walt's own words, the founder of their entire franchise and the vision they claim to follow in his name, back in their faces, What a sting.
The war on beauty continues. Splash mountain transformed into broccoli mountain and now the river to be paved over. Pathetic!
It is pathetic
I wonder if I can see it from my hotel room at Universal
Don't forget ripping out the Epcot fountain for walkways and planters.
i hate what they did to but ... Broccoli Mountain did make me laugh reading this
Say what you want about the actual ride but tianas exterior is objectively more “beautiful” than splash’s exterior
This is absolutely disgusting how they would get rid of so much priceless Disney history and original ideas from Walt Disney for the sake of an ip that doesn’t even belong in the park. Disney has gone too far, not only have gotten rid of splash Mountain but now have the need to get rid of the entire Island and start making some of the worst shows I have ever seen in my entire life if they actually go through with this I will most likely never go to the parks again if this is an attempt to win over guests with the release of epic universe in universal this will be an absolute failure, and if they continue to make these types of decisions, I may never go to the park ever again as much as I love them.
I’ll say it here too, I’m so disappointed in Disney’s shortsightedness in getting rid of this area. This is one of two play areas available to older kids (the other being The Boneyard 😭) to go run off the over stimulation of the concrete, high tech parks.
The rivers are also the best place for claustrophobic or overstimulated people to watch the fireworks. I’m just heartbroken here.
This. 'underutilized' - not at all! Its where you go when you want to escape the pavement and crowds
not any more. it was getting so over crowded they stop running before the fireworks and have since before covid. I love you tube, but it has made any secrets to watching a show or fireworks a thing of the past. and now, because of that and the overgrown trees, if you don't get right in front of the castle, the only thing you can see is the sky unless you paid for your ticket in hopes of sitting in front of the castle for 4 hrs.
This! I love this area for the quiet respite it offers. So sad to see this beautiful area be demolished. 😢
yeah, agreed. One of the key successes of theme parks these days is to have an area of unstructured play. For regional parks, it's often a water-area or full blown water park. Disneyland and Magic Kingdom have had Tom Sawyer - let the kids run! DCA has Redwood Creek.... etc. Take these away, and you do lose an element of families staying in the parks for longer periods of time.
I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face. Disney is anti-family. Catering to Disney adults. Boneyard and Tom Sawyer’s Island are our go to for our little ones to run around. We haven’t been in over a year and have zero desire to return. I think our Disney days are over… and I don’t feel like I care.
Brayden, you're the only one I trust when it comes to WDW news. Thank you for having a dissenting opinion and for caring so much about the parks in the same way I do.
This is the worst idea they’ve ever had. Ever. They should all resign. I don’t know how you even held it together reporting this.
I've ridden the cars attraction in California, it was pretty lame. Not happy.
Disney's reputation is permanently destroyed. They really should rename it Iger World. Almost nothing there resembles Disney any more.
@@haleseason9728 I love Radiator Springs, but its an entire Cars themed land, and it fits together thematically and took over a parking lot, not an entire iconic area of the park.
@@haleseason9728 Obviously I'm not stoked about it coming to FL, but as a Utahn RSR is amazing.
RIP Magic Kingdom 😢
Say goodbye to frontierland, Tomorrowland, Adventureland, etc. etc. The Disney parks are becoming one mega mess of an IP with zero continuity.
Exactly they just throwing darts on a board and see what is next.
@@NeonGhostin they really need to rename their resort to Shoehorn Kingdom, cause that's all they do. They just shoehorn in IP regardless of whether it fits the space or not. Iger has been the absolute worst.
Bob Chapek's prior statement in 2019 when sneak-dissing "Expedition Everest" says it all:
"The acquisition of these brands and the creation of intellectual property behind them have had a tremendous impact on growing our returns at the parks. When you have Star Wars to market at the parks... Avatar is a good example, Cars Land, we're building a Frozen land in Hong Kong, Tokyo and Paris parks], the interest among the potential audience is higher. It's not like "I'm going to ride some nondescript coaster somewhere, that maybe is [themed like] India or whatever." No, you're going to Arendelle and you're going to experience Frozen with Anna and Elsa. Or you're going to fly a banshee into Pandora. Go to Cars Land. We built Radiator Springs. You're with the characters in that town."
Iger, Chapek & Co. simply don't understand their own company's brand. They just look at everything like finite I.P. boxes.
@@HummingbirdInAHurricaneyep.
SYNERGY!! It's Iger's vision!
This IPP mandate has done so much damage to the parks the last number of years… What kills me is not only that everything has to be an intellectual property, but that everything has to be a full land… They don’t like to do single attractions anymore… And then they go and do something so idiotic like this… Were they take out some very important kinetic themed area of a park to plop down cartoon cars, directly across from liberty Square and the rest of frontier land… Sheer ridiculousness… Disney has lost their minds
Frontier land isn't going to exist anymore. They might as well take out Country Bears and the little strip around it, because there will be nothing left to match it. No respect for Walt's vision at all.
Regular people who aren’t Disney purists like you love the ip but sure the company that just did 90 billion in revenue last year doesn’t know what it’s doing
@@nickcatrino987 You're just telling us how you eat up low quality, corporate slop because you have no standards. If it's popular with the mindless masses, it must be great, right? Not much of an argument.
@@xviper2k how is a popular ip that’s replacing something no one ever uses corporate sloop and low quality, and hating on the mindless masses isn’t the flex you think it is, people liking things are usually a good indictor if something good
@@JB.abcdef Not just that strip, but Liberty Square as well. The presence of noisy cartoon cars looming in the distance is going to absolutely destroy the ambiance of what is supposed to be colonial America.
See, shit like this is why I’m surprised the Country Bears are still alive.
My guess as to why they've revived the Country Bears Jamboree..........is because country music enjoyed one of its most culturally relevant years historically last year and has continued to remain a commercial as well as and cultural powerhouse this year with Zach Bryan being a bona-fide superstar, Post Malone having an incredibly successful pivot to the genre, longtime traditional country artists like the Turnpike Troubadours, Cody Jinks, Billy Strings, etc. all suddenly filling arenas, etc.
@HummingbirdInAHurricane no it only got revived cuz the rumor in 2019 that a toy story roundup marionette show was gonna replace it for the 50th anniversary. And since the rumor spread so fast. Fans sent letters, emailed, and called disnry to not replace them so much that they had to address the rumors and say it wasn't going to happen when it was, especially since d23 was that year. So tokyo was gonan get the musical jamboree but since merch was popping for country bears they shelved the idea and gave it to magic kingdom cuz they wanted to update the show.
@@HummingbirdInAHurricanealso tiki room was gonan,be replace by moana and there was concept art leaked for that one
I am so glad they kept the bears. I hope the new show draws more folks in to grizzly hall.
One already started on fire.
Just gotta say. I love how Braden vigorously defends the original intent of the parks and of Walt’s vision. Thank you for everything that you do!
but then seems to accept it instead of urging his viewers to raise hell. As for not maintaining that area, that's only true of the Island. The Liberty Belle went under refurbishment during covid, and they drained the Rivers of America and refurbished the tracks ect. They can put an attraction on TS island for all I care but don't get rid of the water that makes the park so magical.
This is a travesty not only to generations of people who loved this area of the park but to Walt himself. Sad indeed.
I will miss the Rivers of America so much. Frontierland is my favorite part of the park. I feel sorry for the people who don't understand what a loss this is to the MK. It's so nice to have an area to just be lazy and leisurely. Ride the riverboat and feel the breeze on a hot, humid day. Sit on Tom Sawyer's Island and relax with great views of Frontierland and Liberty Square. Plus, going in the caves on the island is a fun, seemingly hidden gem of the park. I was just there a few weeks ago, but now I need to book another trip to enjoy all of this one more time...
Beautifully said, thank you!
This is HORRIFIC!....and I'm completely disgusted by this idea to wipe out Frontier Land and fill in the river. Are you friggin' kidding me Disney? I have never seen ANY company try so hard to kill itself. Is this company being run by people that sincerely HATE it? It damn sure looks like it. If this really happens,... I'm going to be super pissed....and I hope that all "legacy" fans speak out loudly against this. Peltz and Musk,...if you can find any way to stop this next year?...you have my stockholder vote.
Neither of those two would stop it, this will make money
@@jonporter7709 - Let it make money in a "different" location instead.
Concur completely!
@@jonporter7709 Yes they would and it's not happening anyway. When I take over Disney and make it great again, it will be like Bobby was never there. Kids will be stuck with a park frozen in the 1980s and their parents' hand-me-downs.
Iger & D'Amaro: (intertwining their fingers with menacing grins) "EXXXXXCCEEELLLLEEENNNTTTTT!!!"
“They paved paradise and put up an IP lot.”
6:44 +1000 likes for putting Dark Universe behind the “first-of-its-kind” text, I laughed very loud when that came up 👏 😂
Monsters aren’t villains only real villain or close to it is Dracula but all them more misunderstood I think they are going with a first ever villain only land not talking about dark land or monsters because most villains are people in Disney films so
It's amazing how they manage to take 4 steps forward (when struck by competition) and one MASSIVE step back.
I’m done with Disney. They are just so clueless and too far gone.
Agreed
Good I won’t have to wait in line behind you. Everyone ask butt hurt about attractions they never went on
@@kurtsugg3455 Sorry, but openly admitting you’re going to blow your life’s savings on bland overpriced garbage is not a good comeback. 😛
@@kurtsugg3455exactly!
@@kurtsugg3455I guess you’ll show me!
Nothing is sacred with "new Disney". This is such a terrible decision. TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate these plans. All the natural beauty is being demolished in this park … it’s been slowly disappearing for the past decade and a half … soon it will be no better than a six flags
Over Georgia will have more water and natural areas than the Magic Kingdom at this point.
I fear a Six Flags direction could be creeping in .
Ruined Splash Mountain
Ruined Epcot
Is anyone surprised?!
the Rivers of America, Liberty Square Riverboat, and Tom Sawyer Island have been a long time favorite, my quiet space. No one in charge has a clue. They are erasing anything Walt thought of or created
you said it yourself, its a quiet place, meaning its not busy. From a business standpoint, it makes sense. people will complain but itll make money
Concur completely!
Disney's leadership and decision makers have ruined what was once a wonderful place to go and share down through the generations. Very sad
Yes, quiet spaces, water, trees are important to maintaining an environment that guests find comfortable and want to spend time in and around. People need a break, visually at the very least. There is so much other space on property to utilize. No need to shoehorn in something that doesn't really fit.
Following this crazy logic, shouldn't they have closed the Submarine Voyage? Mission to Mars? Dude, a theme park is not a museum.
Beats standing in lines for an experience that lasts only a few minutes. Better to go on a real vacation than a theme park these days.
I think we should declare Tom Sayers Island a national Landmark and stop this.
To be honest I doubt that would stop Disney. It might encourage them sadly.
I think that is a great idea!! 💯
They could easily add a bridge, bring back a restaurant, and add gift shops and other money makers on Tom Sawyer's Island. Enough people are passionate about it.
Do it!
The national parks service (department of the interior) manages the national landmarks program - feel free to make a nomination (this is typically made by the property owner)
They should put the carsland behind rivers of America just like how Galaxy edge is back of rivers of America in Disneyland California.
Did you forget that Disneyland's Rivera of America was shortened because of this work?
@@humbertoribeiro3192 but at least it is STILL THERE.
@@SlackerWannaB I’ve never been to WDW and I would love to go on their Version of riverboat ride
Disagree, put the cars attractions in DHL.
@@KAISOO680 u mean dhs?
Bob and Josh need to go, both of them are DBs. I’m sure this will turn out great like the planter at Epcot, Moana’s broken water experience and the Galactic Star cruiser!
We once watched the fireworks back there and the reflection of the fireworks on the water with the liberty bell in the background was a truly unique experience. I’m sad about this.
Disney’s forgotten about atmosphere and charm. All they care about is IP integrations and not letting universal get the best of them. Its sad. I can’t imagine magic kingdom without the sound of the liberty bell dinging and honking its horn. Can you imagine thunder mountain without it going by the water or waiting in line for haunted mansion and seeing modern day cars zooming by like test track instead of being next to the rivers of America? Its going to lose so much atmosphere.
Rip the atmosphere for real
Honestly.. I think I’m done with Disney if they really go through with this
All because they fill in a river no one uses
I agree. Every time we think of moving away from Florida, we pause and realize how difficult it would be to leave Disney. Now...? I agree. I'm not sure if Disneyland Paris has enough charm to replace what we've loved about WDW, but - with the essence of Disney World being chipped away in favor of IPs, a little at a time - we may take a more serious look at our options.
@@MCFC-m7k You have no idea how theme parks work. None.
@@xviper2k how more people are gonna be in cars land and they are gonna make way more profit including merchandise don’t think you know how theme parks work
@@MCFC-m7k Plus it's not even a real river. It is a pool with a track for the boat. Ridiculous reactions here.
My brother got married in WDW last year so all the family were there and we went to all the parks. My parents are 70 and 64 so they aren't racing around the parks going on all the rides etc. The rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island were the perfect place for them to relax while their grandkids went on rides. It's crazy to me they are going to remove this from MK.
They need to retain SOME of the water. Getting rid of it all is a massive mistake.
This is disgusting! I don’t know what else to say about Disney anymore 😡😡😡
This is the dumbest decision that Disney has made in years. To hell with thematic continuity, let's just shove some ip in there that has nothing to do with Frontierland. Walt must be rolling in his grave... if not over this, over the STUPID idea of creating a Walt Disney AA over the objections of direct family descendants. Absolutely unbelievable.
Oh...you'll get over it. Jeez
Lmao it’s not that serious. How is there no thematic continuity with a mountainous region on the back side of big thunder mountain?
I literally said the same thing. Poor Walt :(
Hey.. I've got a great idea! Let's put a New land where Main Street is.. yeah.. let's just bulldoze that so there is a new land right when you walk through the gate. (insert eye roll here)
@@WonderfulWorldOfWendy Except the shopping/food brings in lots of money. That's the main point you're missing
This is SO incredibly sad, Disney needs the kinetic movement of the rivers of America and it fits so well. Why couldn’t they just expand beyond the current park lines. So so upsetting and ruins the theming.
This is isane Disney, it isn't even frontierland anymore, it's an IP mess of trees, snow and red rocks......? This is worst than Superstar Limo, and that was really bad. Disney LOVES to ruin their parks right now and not focus on thematic details but "how much IP can we cram into these parks to make the most money" I have no faith in Disney to do anything good anymore
I hope a lot of this becomes as "popular" as the StarCruiser Hotel. Another IP fiasco.
Cars should be going in Hollywood Studios where the Lightning McQueen and Mater show is.
Most stupidest thing Disney has ever did…. I have no faith in Disney
Most stupidest thing Disney has ever did... for now...
@@TuckerVerse if it's under water it can't make us more money - 2 shower a day Iger
Hey come on now, i'm sure they'll hang pictures or paintings of those lost attractions on the walls of the new areas, isn't that enough!? /s
Then why the fuq are you even watching this channel? Cuz Brayden is negative now and gives your bubble more air?
I loved how Haunted Mansion was tucked in that corner. It made it mysterious and creepy. Now you’ll see Cars land or whatever.
I understand that no one really visits the island, and the boat is under utilized, but come on...leave the river! What an awesome part of that land. It just adds to the whole mood of the area. This is a huge mistake! And one that can't be undone. I keep hearing that having the river there was a waste of space, if that's the case, then lets also pave over the Seven Seas Lagoon cause good Lord, how much wasted space is that? Maybe they can turn that into a big slab of concrete also, and maybe build a hotel on top. This is completely ridiculous.
I agree. The unfilled/unpaved spaces in the parks are my favorite areas of the parks. Just having water adds such a nice feeling to an area. Unfortunately most people don’t appreciate that and just want huge E-ticket attractions.
I agree that removing the River is a mistake if they don't rework/remodel/relocate the surrounding attractions/restaurants/facades. Simply dropping something new in its place will be awkward.
The ferry journey from TTC to MK reminds of the ferry journey to Mackinac Island. I would be utterly disappointed if they got rid of Seven Seas Lagoon the same way they get rid of Rivers of America.
The River perfectly fits with liberty square and Frontierland as it showing u history of America. Carsland right next to it will ruin the immersion.
@@eko9554 it's clear that Disney isn't interested in the history of America. They're interested in what IP they can shoehorn in where. It's sad really.
It was bad enough that they got rid of Splash Mountain but to get rid of the rivers of America as well, it’s just one horrible decision after another. Frontierland has lost its identity and will never be the same again.
Oh wow.... That looks awful. I thought they were going to put it behind. Big thunder mountain kind of like they did with Galaxy's edge at Disneyland. They're making the park feel more crowded.
I hope enough people complain so they decide to move it
“I’m in Hillbilly hell, my iq’s dropping by the second, I’m becoming one of THEM!” - Lightning McQueen
Cowards! All of them…they knew the blowback from telling us they’re gonna destroy Frontierland. I hate it. I hate it all.
I’ll live with the memories I have and never return.
I will miss the steam whistle so much.
DONT TAKE AWAY THE BELLE DISNEY PLEASE DONT
@@libertysdaddy1514 Unfortunately it's happening regardless at this point
@@shawndye7751 It could be interesting if Disney found a way to keep the Liberty Belle as a walkthrough experience.
@@GLJosh yeah or I was thinking perhaps depending on the capabilities, maybe perhaps using it out on the lake outside Magic Kingdom for special occasions.
@@shawndye7751 It would be pretty cool to have it at Disney Springs.
I struggle to think of a worse place to put a ride themed to anthropomorphic talking cars. Having that area back up onto the water is such an important part of Magic Kingdom's design and provides so, soooo much ambiance for that place. Filling it in for crap that has nothing to do with the old west when they have plenty of other space to expand into is one of the worst ideas Disney has ever had. This is taking a hatchet to the design of the park. The fact that this idea ever made it off the whiteboard and got a public announcement should be an embarrassment to the company. This is catastrophically bad.
Please, let this not happen! Put Cars in the open space behind BTMR. Fill in the back end of the RoA, not the front. Turn it into Tom Sawyer's Peninsula if you have to. Whatever. But please, please do not get rid of the part of the RoA that abuts Frontierland and Liberty Square! It provides so much for the park and people won't realize how big of a loss this is until the work walls come up. Yap about capacity and Tom Sawyer Island not being popular all you want. I don't care. Atmosphere and soul is what sets Disney parks apart from the rest, and bulldozing places that provide that in the name of capacity is a great way to lose that.
Iger won’t be happy till he kills everything Walt did.
Igers entire plan was to erase Walt AND Eisner's Legacy
@@AXander1978 , if so, his legacy will speak for itself, and probably be a cautionary tale for future Disney execs, if Disney survives this devastating mistake.
I would bet that the execs decided that the youth of today probably don't even know who Mark Twain was let alone his stories and find the area "boring". I am quite sad to see it all go away along with Walt's dream.
I'll bet most of the Disney Executives under 45 don't know who Mark Twain is!
I’ll miss Rivers of America very much 😢
This is absurd, sacrificing a staple part of Walt’s original vision for the park is beyond me. I am very disappointed in this plan. The word “Frontier” only gave them a generic excuse to use this space for more ip otherwise. This is not what we need if sacrificing a staple attraction gives room for more “Frontiers” they say.
Disney mathematics…….take away Tom Sawyer Island and the fort, subtract the Lillybelle and Rivers of America, then add Cars and Cars Jr. and you get two more rides at MK than you started with. Wait? What? Weird, weird!
They really need to drain the seven seas lagoon and put in another out door mall 2 hotels and a DVC tower.
Tom Sawyers Island and the riverboat don't sell merch...come on now, they need to squeeze every dollar they can from guests. We can't have families spending an hour running around Tom Sawyers island relaxing getting away from the throngs of people when they could be buying Cars themed merchandise!
Plus what are you going do with all those walls from Epcot? They must have a lot of exciting wall merch lined up. They’ll even get the paying public to paint it for them. Wallcot to Tragic Walldom.
@@Roon3808 I totally agree. If it's under water it ain't making money.
I ride the steam boat on every visit. It is a relaxing timeout in the middle of my visit.
Conclusion........NO BOAT NO VISIT!
Throwing Walt's own words right back at em!!!
So sad... I'm from CA where we would revolt about anyone suggesting Rivers of America be filled in, but love to visit WDW when I'm able. One of my fondest memories was taking a raft to Tom Sawyer Island at WDW when I needed to escape the crowds and noise. I found a nice rocking chair across from Big Thunder and spent about an hour relaxing and taking in the views. The parks need to keep places to relax and unwind with all the crowds and noise that is a regular part of the fun. I wish they would put it outside somewhere.
Loved that addition of walt's description of frontierland. Very sad to see the thematic degradation of the parks continue.
They have so much space!!! Why???
They paved paradise, & put up a parking lot.
Sounds like a song!
Oooooooo bop bop oooooooooo bop bop
Don’t it always seem to go, that you don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone…
While getting a Cars Land is good, demolishing the Rivers of American is a HORRIBLE idea. The Riverboat is packed every sailing. Everyone loves it. It’s relaxing with great scenes of indigenous people and wildlife at the rivers edge. It also helps on hot days to cool the park. Doing things like this is why fans are getting fed up. It doesn't fit the Frontier Land theme and is basically doing away with Frontier Land due to the size of this project. With Univeral’s Epic Universe opening up in 2025, I think a lot of once die hard Disney fans who spend lots of money and are fed up with things like this, are going to move on to other places. Disney should start to listen to the fans who know better many times. At D23 the crowd’s reaction to Cars was evident which should have been your wake-up call. So wake up and don’t cement over the River!
Thoroughly disgusting.
"Disney is becoming another Las Vegas. They're constantly tearing down their icons. One day, the castle will be gone."
*they’re*
@@TheCarsGarage Good looking out.
Hold on Disney is getting rid of historic cohesion for not one but two (car) attractions!? What about do a big retheme to Tomorrowland speedway? Oh wait let me guess they will let it be a ghost town attraction or spend even more money to remove the speedway!? I’m done.. 😣
If we all get together and strongly condemn this, we can stop it from happening. The fan community NEEDS to come together and protest this.