Woo hoo! It worked flawlessly on mine, and the speed operating as a backup desktop system is noticeable. I have the gold heatsynch case with fans, and I went from 40c to 44c cpu temp watching 1080 video. Couldn't be happier.
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Just set up a new desktop MATE box for my dad doing this, using Ice Tower cooler and case. Replaces his old laptop perfectly. Runs very nicely, stable 2.0GHz, stays chilly, exactly what he needed. Thanks for the assist!
Thanks for this video! It has made a huge improvement in the performance on my Pi 4. Using the "Jun-Electron for Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Case, Dual Cooling Fan, Enclosure Aluminum Alloy Case with Heatsink Pillar" for cooling. Found it on Amazon, keeps the board in the low 50's C.
it's nice to see the raspberry pi have this much overclocking headroom. i had a pi3b that just refused to overclock to any stable speed minus a 50 mhz bump in speed and i had to use almost all of the available voltage (without tripping the warranty bit) in order to get it there and be stable. but a 500mhz bump on the pi 4? that's just nuts and i love it.
I took the time to do this today. Using one of those cheap amazon heatsinks with a small fan sitting on top, I was able to sysbench with your parameters and --cpu-max-prime=20000 a few times and never got over 68 degrees at 2ghz and gpu overclock. I am very happy with this result but may opt for a better cooling solution since the Pi4 runs so warm.
Please keep us updated on the RPi4 front. Mine is still sitting in its package because of the software issues that haven't yet been fixed (like HD video playback). That 2GHz boost looks amazing but the Foundation really needs to get things rolling so the overall experience gets much better.
Alright prime iv joined in this raspberry pi Marriage community to turn to for software needs. This tutorial was great and one of the first times I got something like this to worked. Plz continue to keep us updated. ThX
You can also set conditional overclocks. For example, if you pull a gpio pin low, it overclocks, if you remove the jumper that lowers the pin, you are back to 1.5 ghz. That's a way to overclock without a pc. Also, be careful. You put the oveclocks in the [all] section of the config. You have to put it in pi4 otherwise that sd card won’t work with other Pis
Tried this... it worked like a charm! Currently crunching primes in sysbench, withe temperature holding steady at 37-38 ºC (using IceTower). Thanks for the guide!!!
Thanks for the instructions. I just did that to my Pi4 4GB and it worked out great. I am using one of the small heatsinks that come wit many Pi kits but I'm actively colling with an Noctua NF-A8 5V (80 mm). This setup keeps the CPU below 50C and still is verry quiet.
would u happen to know why im geting "unable to locate package" when i try to install sysbench im testing out pi os 64bit but refuses to install or see a package.
@@Loundsify I don't have a Pi4 myself yet, so I'm just curious, and I haven't seen anyone else do it. RAM overclocking was a thing on previous Pi versions, and the switch to LPDDR4 is one of the differences on the 4. With the higher stock bandwidth is there any benefit to a RAM overclock? WIth the new GPU and 4k60 support does faster RAM help with video or game performance?
@@passerby184 not locked that I've heard. and "sdram_freq" is still an option with a value for Pi4 in the official documentation: www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt/overclocking.md
With the RPi 4B version 1.5, you can do even higher freq. (the default freq is now 1800). I am running at the following settings: Over_voltege=6 Arm_freq=2100 Gpu_freq=750 Gpu_mem=256
I got this command box to open, but I don't have access to temperature or GPU. Is there another way to over clock the Pi4? This box doesn't work on my Pi.
i saw this few days ago and i got mines to 1.9ghz, never tried 2ghz yet but i did get my gpu to 700mhz and its nice. Also if you go to the top bar and go into add/remove, you can get the temp monitor and cpu usage display without using the terminal
We had this issue with pi3b+ my pi couldnt go higher then 1.4 it would not boot and others got 1.5 and 1.6 so depends on the board and how the board was made.
There is a thing called the silicone lottery. You may get a better GPU/CPU that can hold better frequencies or even worse. This isn't something manufacturers can prevent.
ETA Prime great vid!!! I over clocked my pi4 to 2 GHz and I use the GeeekPi Acrylic case ($10 Amazon) with the Adafruit 15x15x15 heatsink ($1.99 Microcenter). I put the fan on top of the case and that gave the much taller heatsink the clearance it needed to fit. I also used all the other heatsinks in the kit and it seem up to the task. Idle it runs 34C to 36C and messing around like now, it runs at 37C to 38C. I have seen it run 45C while watching 1080p movie. FYI I use Conky on all of my GUI Pis to get real time info.
Not sure who’s still coming here like me, but I believe the overvoltage settings are out of date for a new OS. I had to use 6 and then going to 2.1 GHz was stable. Also make sure you have the raspberry pi power supply as it’s not a standard USB 5V amperage. Not sure why couldn’t conform with standard PD like every other USB C device.
nice that you checkte octane 2.0 its actually pretty representative (despite de browser differences but if used with the same browser and version) to check system performance
Hi from 2021. OCing the pi 4 immensely helps with speeding up and smoothing Steam-link gameplay. I can play Soulcalibur 6 at 1080p no lag 60 FPS sustained, smoove. Very helpful vid.
This video is so important that I am just on my toilet sit watching. I believe you understand whats happening on the sit.😉😉😉. Anyway, Are there no 3D games that plays on Arm Rasp V4 without emulators. Devs whatsup, we have pi 4 now, hiha!
Sweet thanks so much for your insight. I've had 4 on ordered since it was released and haven't gotten my hands on one yet. And I'm sorta glad as the new firmware updates bug fixes and retropie updates is really worth waiting and not wasting our time installing other builds installing different build of emulators and transferring tones of files and so on. So yeah waiting is much better.
This helped me a lot. I was seriously thinking of overclocking my rpi 4 for the purpose of speeding up YT loading and video playback but now I won't bother since it doesn't really help in that regard.
Question: on the overclocked scenarios have you attempted to see what the lowest amount of current the Pi can run on is? You did some minimum power tests on another video. Just curious what a naked Pi (i.e. no USB devices attached) with only active cooling, a keyboard and mouse needs for power in an overclocked state.
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I know this is a joke and all, but after about 2.147 GHz (if I remember correctly), the Pi just refuses to boot, even if you have a good cooling solution.
@@aguy2093 yes it's totally a joke, the design of the board just barely withstand 20w power consumption, hope your board is still functions properly after all these overclocking.
If you are having problems with OC. Valuable tip. If you used Berryboot like he shows you in this or other videos he made. Don't use rpi-update command. you should never use rpi-update nor should it even be told. If you did use that command you are using test/unstable versions of stuff... I know many people tell you to do rpi-update. It's wrong. You can use this to reverse the damage if you used rpi-update. sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install --reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader raspberrypi-kernel and reboot Also very important if you used berryboot (from his other guides) and have multiple OS.. you "must" edit the config.txt on your SD card not in the /boot directory.. It's not the same config.txt, will have zero effect... so yank your sd card and make the changes on that..put it back in and then boot. Took me a long time to figure this out. My Pi 4b is the kit with the 2 fans on heat sink. If you are not using a cooler like him I'd advise first trying arm freq of 1750 with voltage 2 and check in commander pi to confirm your OC works. P.S. Yes, you could mount the sd card to another directory.. but it's just easier to pull card and fix it there.
Nice, I got my Pi4 running at 2GHz/600MHz and temperatures stabilize at 58 degrees with my setup when I stress test it with sysbench. I use a Pimoroni PiBow Coupé case with their large heatsink (40x30x5mm) and a Noctua NF-A4x20 5V PWM on top of the heatsink blowing at roughly 70% which makes it almost quiet during operation. I can also watch TH-cam videos 720p/1080p @ 30 fps with limited drops (30 drops over 3500+ frames) during full-screen viewing. 60 fps videos however still cause massive drops.
I ran a lightweight PaperMC minecraft server on an RPi4 with 4G of RAM, CPU set to 2gHz, no GPU overclock, got a few people (5) on to go out of our way to strain it and until we hit about 1k entities and a ton of redstone lag machines and all three worlds loaded, tps stood around 20.
Would love to see what the overclocked Pi 4 can do with emulation, but I suppose, just like TH-cam, compatibility and support are still the main concerns at this point.
Currently updating all of my Pi4 boards. If after booting from the overclock settings above and your Pi4 freezes on boot, Its because of the latest rpi-update. open up the /boot/config.txt file on your windows PC using notepad++ as suggested then remove the gpu overclock settings. you can leave the rest. then load the sd card into your Pi4 and it will go into the Raspbian desktop, then open a terminal window and use the cmd below.... sudo rpi-update afbea38042fbb73149ad8c5688c011742fb3ff8a then apply the the gpu overclock settings as instructed in the video above and save. sudo reboot and you will be all set
An atomic pi is 27 bucks on amazon with a heat sync and with a stock build it runs killer instinct along with a lot of other games like ones on psp and my favorite gta 3 on it no problem. With gta 3 it hits around 30 to 50 FPS but never below 30.
Thanks for the video. Sucsessfully managed to overclock my PI 4 to 2000GHz and GPU to 600GHz. Just ordered an Argon One case, but was too impatient to wait for it to arrive so I used a "whiskey stone". It worked really well. Managed to keep the CPU temp under 60 degrees. You gotta do what you gotta do. :)
Caused it not to reboot for me, so I redid it again. over_voltage=6 (Think this was the fix. Above 6 I believe voids the warranty FYI.) arm_freq=2147 gpu_freq=750 My temps are between 50-54 with the stuff that came in the Canakit Rpi4. Im gunna check the temp later when running emulationstation in game see how high it gets. Thanks man I appreciate your videos! Big help I'm a decent computer guy but new to the terminal and all that, Linux so to speak. Only used Ubuntu for a few months don't know much.
Hey cool video as always. Can you also provide some information about the heat situation? Do you also know if RPI Foundation will allow us to overclock RPI4 above 2ghz without losing the warranty?
I think the Pi 3b+ streams pretty good without h264ify. I have streamed from network sites, but active cooling is a must for long term watching. In truth streaming higher than 720 is a waste of bandwidth and offers no real benefit in my opinion.
1- Can it maintain this speeds with cpu and gpu on a daily usage ? 2- Can gpu be overclocked further and does it need extra cooling other than the heatsink & fan ? 3- How do these effect gameplay performance with various emulators ? Thanks :)
1. Unless you have turbo mode forced, the Pi is not constantly operating at 2 gHz. It still idles at 666 mHz, clocks higher as needed, and rather than capping out at 1.5 gHz, continues to increase until it hits 2. This means that, so long as you are not doing tasks that constantly require your Pi to be overclocked, it's not going to be running that high all the time. Can it maintain the speed, if needed? Sure. But just bear in mind that the more you use a system component the faster it wears out. 2a. I'm pretty sure 2 gHz is the hardware-imposed limitation. I may be wrong though. 2a(add): Oh you said GPU. Not sure. 2b. Use `watch -n1 vcgencmd measure_temp` and keep an eye on the temps as you do whatever you typically do with your Pi. If that readout approaches the danger zone (80+ degrees), then you should probably look into improving your cooling situation. Some cases and fan configurations are better at heat dissipation than others. Some have more blades in the fan, some have more open space, some are designed to be heat sinks as well as fans. Experiment and see what gives you the best temperature. If you're not regularly approaching the danger zone, then the setup you have is probably ok.
HOLY CRAP 2.00 GHz on a micro form factor PC!? That is the equivalent of running a full-sized, desktop PC at 5.0+ GHz. Nicely done RP team and ETA Prime!
@@testtest8399 For a micro form factor PC to achieve 2.0 GHz with its limited circuitry, limited thermal management capacity and restricted programming is an equivalent achievement is what I meant. A processor running at 5.0 GHz can arguably achieve more on a quantitative level, but on a qualitative level a 2.0 GHz miniature processor is doing the same work. Relative to the capacities of each PC, they are doing the same work. (If anything, you could argue the Pi is perhaps exceeding the desktop PC because it is running some of the same programming with less resources, but that is a debate I will leave to the fanboys.)
After you update and upgrade, you also likely need to install sysbench: sudo apt-get install sysbench You don't need to update the firmware if it's 5.15 or fairly recent, 5.15 worked fine for me
As for TH-cam playback, I found that by default hardware acceleration doesn't work too well with chrome. I played around with some settings to get WebGL demos to work, and was able to get the fishtank demo to run at about between 10-30FPS full screen with small amounts of fish, at 1080p. It seems to have a weird cap though, as decreasing the number of fish will not speed up pass the weird 10-30FPS cap. Either way you might be able to get a bit better yt performance if you play with chrome flags, but its a pain in the butt.
Good vid. Is it possible you could do a vid, with pi4 running on two monitors, as they claim, ie 4k on both desktops. Is that what they claim this can do? If that is, could you possibly do a test vid, to show, if pi4, can actually run two desktops on 2x4k monitors.
Thanks for doing these. You are right the little aluminum heat sinks are pretty much a joke. I have a Flirc on order. Still would be interested in a Ice tower IF I could find a case that would work with it. Just enough to protect the board is all I am looking for. Any ideas?
i kind of guestimated that the rpi3 case (with the removable cover on top leaving the hole above the cpu open in the case) could be a good candidate to allow at least the heatsink trough. unsure of the heatsink+fan tough. you'll have to remove the slids between the usb ports and lan port on the front to make it fit and leave the side panel of the case but i don't know it's testable without wrecking the case immediately:P
I think to be effective, it will have to be a style that separates the board attachment from the case "stack". That is, it would need four bolts to tie the board down to the case and a separate four bolts to "tie" the case together. So far everything I have seen that might fit would involve leaving the top open. In a way I am a little surprised that the guys that came up with this have not put out a case. Although they may not have thought that it would be as popular as it is becoming.
For a good gaming test, try running full Minecraft Java Edition on it. LowSpecGamer did it on a RaspberryPi 2 and the thing struggled even with OptiFine (a mod which improves performance in case you don't know). This was on 1.8. (which was outdated even at the time), so newer versions can only get worse (at least in my experience).
I am running these settings for about 2 weeks continuous use with no problems. I do have a case with a fan. over_voltage=6 arm_freq=2140 gpu_freq=750 These are based from another youtube video. You tube video playback has not buffered at all...yet.
Have you tried the CPU stress test with those? I'm using those and everything is running fine till I kick off the CPU stress test which reboots the system. Here is the command "stress-ng --cpu 0 --cpu-method fft"
@@garystout4300 yes, you need to run this first (sudo apt install stress-ng mesa-utils). Here is the original article www.raspberrypi.org/blog/thermal-testing-raspberry-pi-4/
Hi! I'm new to overclocking so here's my probably stupid question: After I overclocked my PI4 in Raspbian, does it stays overclock if I boot my PI4 directly into Lakka or I need to make some changes?
Also trying to figure this out. I edited the config files for both Raspbien and Lakka with these changes, but I can't detect any meaningful improvement in Lakka, and I can't find a way to monitor temp or CPU in Lakka either. I remain confused.
get the extension H264ify and try playing videos that way. the issue with TH-cam stuff is that the VB8/9 file format they use on YT is CPU intensive, whereas that plugin will use inbuilt H264 decoding to playback videos. ive done this with ten year old computers and its crazy,
I run my Pi4/2G at 2GHz/600Mhz (CPU/GPU) and if I just did a brief sysbench stress-test. The temperature goes up to 58 degrees C. I'm using a Pimoroni PiBow Coupé case with their large CPU heatsink (40x30x5mm) and on top of that I've got a Noctua NF-A4x20 5V PWM.
@@cherrymountains72, hey, I was looking to get that exact case for a future pi, what kind of clearances does it have for a small Tower cooler such as the one he was using in the video?
PRIME it seems like with the latest RPI firmware, we are now not allowed to specify gpu_freq=xxx. Maybe a video about the new turbo mode overclock would be nice :)
Can you list out what pi4 can do (except Browsing & viewing videos) and show us an example videos. need a comparision also over a traditional laptop or desktop functionality. What kind of software it can run??
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Gonna be honest, getting a bunch of these and running Quake 3 LAN for retro fun with friends sounds very tempting.
I've yet to get q3 running well on it. The server runs fine, but the actual game....unplayable.
@@redbeard1083 I had no issues playing with friends online. They used PCs, me a Pi3.
also Minetest is good ;)
Lol i play q3 on windows 7 in school all the time with my my friends.
@@redbeard1083 Q3 can run well on a normal Pi3 not even the 3 B+ so u should be fine
I personally find you accountable for my hurt feelings, Prime. I blame you for every single issue I’ve ever had with a PC or single board computer. 😝
😂
I find him accountable for my collection of multiple pi3s and pi4s. Zeros etc. Hahah
😂😂😂😂
@@Beyondesp same
Woo hoo! It worked flawlessly on mine, and the speed operating as a backup desktop system is noticeable. I have the gold heatsynch case with fans, and I went from 40c to 44c cpu temp watching 1080 video. Couldn't be happier.
Scot Echols which case is that? I’m still looking for something good that’s not as blocky as the ice tower
That overclock gave a nearly linear performance increase! The 25% overclock was about a 20-25% performance jump. Very impressive.
33%😛
Nice my ice tower actually arrived today :)
Do you think that the bulky setup defeats the purpose? I see that KKSB came up with a solid aluminum case. It's more than the Pi though.
@@georgepitaru no
kinerry It does defeat the purpose of having a tiny pocket size pc. With the cooler it isn’t as portable as a aftermarket case for the pi3/4.
"Or hurt feelings"
Perfect!!!
You can brick my raspberry pi, you can burn up my raspberry pi, but I swear to God if you hurt my feelings lol.
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7:45 is when benchmarks start.
Have a good day, fellow commentor.
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Just set up a new desktop MATE box for my dad doing this, using Ice Tower cooler and case. Replaces his old laptop perfectly. Runs very nicely, stable 2.0GHz, stays chilly, exactly what he needed. Thanks for the assist!
Happy to see they are still working on fixing the Pi 4.
Thanks for this video! It has made a huge improvement in the performance on my Pi 4. Using the "Jun-Electron for Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Case, Dual Cooling Fan, Enclosure Aluminum Alloy Case with Heatsink Pillar" for cooling. Found it on Amazon, keeps the board in the low 50's C.
I got the same one, I really like it!
it's nice to see the raspberry pi have this much overclocking headroom. i had a pi3b that just refused to overclock to any stable speed minus a 50 mhz bump in speed and i had to use almost all of the available voltage (without tripping the warranty bit) in order to get it there and be stable. but a 500mhz bump on the pi 4? that's just nuts and i love it.
I took the time to do this today. Using one of those cheap amazon heatsinks with a small fan sitting on top, I was able to sysbench with your parameters and --cpu-max-prime=20000 a few times and never got over 68 degrees at 2ghz and gpu overclock. I am very happy with this result but may opt for a better cooling solution since the Pi4 runs so warm.
Please keep us updated on the RPi4 front.
Mine is still sitting in its package because of the software issues that haven't yet been fixed (like HD video playback).
That 2GHz boost looks amazing but the Foundation really needs to get things rolling so the overall experience gets much better.
Alright prime iv joined in this raspberry pi Marriage community to turn to for software needs. This tutorial was great and one of the first times I got something like this to worked. Plz continue to keep us updated. ThX
You can also set conditional overclocks. For example, if you pull a gpio pin low, it overclocks, if you remove the jumper that lowers the pin, you are back to 1.5 ghz. That's a way to overclock without a pc. Also, be careful. You put the oveclocks in the [all] section of the config. You have to put it in pi4 otherwise that sd card won’t work with other Pis
25% overclocking gives 26% performance boost, it’s amazing!)
You cn have Temp, Freq and more showing in the Taskbar, Just need to Add them via the panel
Tried this... it worked like a charm! Currently crunching primes in sysbench, withe temperature holding steady at 37-38 ºC (using IceTower). Thanks for the guide!!!
Thanks for the instructions. I just did that to my Pi4 4GB and it worked out great. I am using one of the small heatsinks that come wit many Pi kits but I'm actively colling with an Noctua NF-A8 5V (80 mm). This setup keeps the CPU below 50C and still is verry quiet.
I was about writing some words about not to show us this ice tower cooler...but at the end...you already did a video...let´s watch ;)
I might of missed this, but I didn’t see him install sysbench. If anyone needs the terminal command:
sudo apt-get install sysbench
Thank you
would u happen to know why im geting "unable to locate package" when i try to install sysbench im testing out pi os 64bit but refuses to install or see a package.
Haven't seen anybody show the effect of DDR4 overclock on the RasPi 4
In what way?
@@Loundsify I don't have a Pi4 myself yet, so I'm just curious, and I haven't seen anyone else do it. RAM overclocking was a thing on previous Pi versions, and the switch to LPDDR4 is one of the differences on the 4. With the higher stock bandwidth is there any benefit to a RAM overclock? WIth the new GPU and 4k60 support does faster RAM help with video or game performance?
@@rhekman maybe ram clock is locked?
@@passerby184 not locked that I've heard. and "sdram_freq" is still an option with a value for Pi4 in the official documentation: www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt/overclocking.md
They'd better fix the 1GB limit on ARM64 kernel first.
With the RPi 4B version 1.5, you can do even higher freq. (the default freq is now 1800). I am running at the following settings:
Over_voltege=6
Arm_freq=2100
Gpu_freq=750
Gpu_mem=256
I got this command box to open, but I don't have access to temperature or GPU. Is there another way to over clock the Pi4? This box doesn't work on my Pi.
i saw this few days ago and i got mines to 1.9ghz, never tried 2ghz yet but i did get my gpu to 700mhz and its nice. Also if you go to the top bar and go into add/remove, you can get the temp monitor and cpu usage display without using the terminal
We had this issue with pi3b+ my pi couldnt go higher then 1.4 it would not boot and others got 1.5 and 1.6 so depends on the board and how the board was made.
40nm gpu should have a maximum of like 800 mhz or 900
There is a thing called the silicone lottery. You may get a better GPU/CPU that can hold better frequencies or even worse. This isn't something manufacturers can prevent.
ETA Prime great vid!!! I over clocked my pi4 to 2 GHz and I use the GeeekPi Acrylic case ($10 Amazon) with the Adafruit 15x15x15 heatsink ($1.99 Microcenter). I put the fan on top of the case and that gave the much taller heatsink the clearance it needed to fit. I also used all the other heatsinks in the kit and it seem up to the task. Idle it runs 34C to 36C and messing around like now, it runs at 37C to 38C. I have seen it run 45C while watching 1080p movie. FYI I use Conky on all of my GUI Pis to get real time info.
how do you watch in 1080p without the framerate droppings?!
Not sure who’s still coming here like me, but I believe the overvoltage settings are out of date for a new OS. I had to use 6 and then going to 2.1 GHz was stable. Also make sure you have the raspberry pi power supply as it’s not a standard USB 5V amperage. Not sure why couldn’t conform with standard PD like
every other USB C device.
I could imagine this overclock would run Windows 10 on ARM on the Raspberry Pi 4 a lot better than before.
Instructions unclear, built a NASA approved Raspberry Pi and now am on the new dev team.
Nice, i love my "new" Pi ;) , that 500mHz are really appreciated!!! Thank´s for your effort!
these are the kinds of videos I like before watching. Thanks a ton!
Thanks for the video! Any idea if Kodi operates faster/more efficient with the overclock?
I'm really curious to see what overclocking does to Retro Gaming at the 1.75 level and the 2 level
Did you find out how to oveclock using the retropie OS & did you find a setting that works well? I dont want to break it
This raspberry pi overclocked runs games a tiny bit better then my 2009 iMac
and still costs $500 less. haha
nice that you checkte octane 2.0 its actually pretty representative (despite de browser differences but if used with the same browser and version) to check system performance
Hi from 2021. OCing the pi 4 immensely helps with speeding up and smoothing Steam-link gameplay. I can play Soulcalibur 6 at 1080p no lag 60 FPS sustained, smoove. Very helpful vid.
This video is so important that I am just on my toilet sit watching. I believe you understand whats happening on the sit.😉😉😉. Anyway, Are there no 3D games that plays on Arm Rasp V4 without emulators. Devs whatsup, we have pi 4 now, hiha!
What do you mean? OpenArena, Minecraft someone even managed to recompile Doom 4 for this... or you meant VR?
Sweet thanks so much for your insight. I've had 4 on ordered since it was released and haven't gotten my hands on one yet. And I'm sorta glad as the new firmware updates bug fixes and retropie updates is really worth waiting and not wasting our time installing other builds installing different build of emulators and transferring tones of files and so on. So yeah waiting is much better.
Tons not tones
This helped me a lot. I was seriously thinking of overclocking my rpi 4 for the purpose of speeding up YT loading and video playback but now I won't bother since it doesn't really help in that regard.
Question: on the overclocked scenarios have you attempted to see what the lowest amount of current the Pi can run on is? You did some minimum power tests on another video. Just curious what a naked Pi (i.e. no USB devices attached) with only active cooling, a keyboard and mouse needs for power in an overclocked state.
You get bonus points for knowing how to pronounce sudo correctly. So many youtubers say it wrong lol.
Probably because many people follow the English language laws when pronouncing it. It's just like gif, it might have been intended to sound wrong, but people will pronounce it how the language instructs them to pronounce it.
Playing TH-cam through vlc media player helps
Dayymmm i bet this is hella better than every computer i had so far
thanks for this, your channel is my one stop shop for all tech info I need! Keep it up.
I would love to see this overclock on the retropie
It's the same thing just plug in a keyboard and press f4 to go to terminal
Nice i will try gta sa
I’m overclocking CPU and GPU and gonna test out PSP and PS1 games.
next one: rpi4 all core 4GHz with LN2 cooling 😁
I know this is a joke and all, but after about 2.147 GHz (if I remember correctly), the Pi just refuses to boot, even if you have a good cooling solution.
@@aguy2093 yes it's totally a joke, the design of the board just barely withstand 20w power consumption, hope your board is still functions properly after all these overclocking.
Please make a 2Ghz Retropie video.. I'd also like to see GPU overclock impact on emulation for 3D systems
Zangeef Fangsteen retro pi isn't available yet on the pi 4
Yeah that isnt going to happen yet due to lack of drivers and support.
Trying right now to download the Retropi Raspberry pi 4 beta and overclock the cpu and gpu inside the beta. I want ETA PRIME to do a video on this
Why not test some emulation for games that didn't perform that well on stock frequencies?
Does Retropie work for Pi4B yet?
Because there are actual patch issues because of the earliest of the Raspberry Pi 4 B itself
xD
@@mendoxx097 Patch issues? What are you patching?
@@pgtmr2713 they are working on it
why not try yourself
If you are having problems with OC. Valuable tip. If you used Berryboot like he shows you in this or other videos he made. Don't use rpi-update command. you should never use rpi-update nor should it even be told. If you did use that command you are using test/unstable versions of stuff... I know many people tell you to do rpi-update. It's wrong. You can use this to reverse the damage if you used rpi-update.
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install --reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader raspberrypi-kernel
and reboot
Also very important if you used berryboot (from his other guides) and have multiple OS.. you "must" edit the config.txt on your SD card not in the /boot directory.. It's not the same config.txt, will have zero effect... so yank your sd card and make the changes on that..put it back in and then boot.
Took me a long time to figure this out. My Pi 4b is the kit with the 2 fans on heat sink. If you are not using a cooler like him I'd advise first trying arm freq of 1750 with voltage 2 and check in commander pi to confirm your OC works.
P.S. Yes, you could mount the sd card to another directory.. but it's just easier to pull card and fix it there.
Nice, I got my Pi4 running at 2GHz/600MHz and temperatures stabilize at 58 degrees with my setup when I stress test it with sysbench. I use a Pimoroni PiBow Coupé case with their large heatsink (40x30x5mm) and a Noctua NF-A4x20 5V PWM on top of the heatsink blowing at roughly 70% which makes it almost quiet during operation. I can also watch TH-cam videos 720p/1080p @ 30 fps with limited drops (30 drops over 3500+ frames) during full-screen viewing. 60 fps videos however still cause massive drops.
ETA Prime, i learn a lot from your channel keep doin what you do....
great video and thank you for your energy. I was wondering have you found the threshold of running over clocked?
Give the people what they want: game tests
I ran a lightweight PaperMC minecraft server on an RPi4 with 4G of RAM, CPU set to 2gHz, no GPU overclock, got a few people (5) on to go out of our way to strain it and until we hit about 1k entities and a ton of redstone lag machines and all three worlds loaded, tps stood around 20.
Would love to see what the overclocked Pi 4 can do with emulation, but I suppose, just like TH-cam, compatibility and support are still the main concerns at this point.
You are most certainly reliable for hurt feelings, but you are right about the rest.
will overclocking work with the Canakit? they include a heat sink plus case fan
Currently updating all of my Pi4 boards. If after booting from the overclock settings above and your Pi4 freezes on boot, Its because of the latest rpi-update.
open up the /boot/config.txt file on your windows PC using notepad++ as suggested then remove the gpu overclock settings. you can leave the rest.
then load the sd card into your Pi4 and it will go into the Raspbian desktop, then open a terminal window and use the cmd below....
sudo rpi-update afbea38042fbb73149ad8c5688c011742fb3ff8a
then apply the the gpu overclock settings as instructed in the video above and save.
sudo reboot and you will be all set
Thank you man, that worked for me..
I just want to be able to play Killer Instinct on a raspberry pi damnit
You and me both. It's really one of the only arcade games I care about.
You would be better off getting an Odroid XU4, or N2. Or heck, just an Atomic Pi will run Killer Instinct with no problems.
@ Now imagine putting that xbox in your pocket
have a n64 on top of your pi?
An atomic pi is 27 bucks on amazon with a heat sync and with a stock build it runs killer instinct along with a lot of other games like ones on psp and my favorite gta 3 on it no problem. With gta 3 it hits around 30 to 50 FPS but never below 30.
I usually use "watch -n 1 sensors" to monitor not only my temps but everything else.
I overclocked it to 2.3 ghz and now it can handle 4k video
Thanks for the video. Sucsessfully managed to overclock my PI 4 to 2000GHz and GPU to 600GHz. Just ordered an Argon One case, but was too impatient to wait for it to arrive so I used a "whiskey stone". It worked really well. Managed to keep the CPU temp under 60 degrees. You gotta do what you gotta do. :)
Caused it not to reboot for me, so I redid it again.
over_voltage=6 (Think this was the fix. Above 6 I believe voids the warranty FYI.)
arm_freq=2147
gpu_freq=750
My temps are between 50-54 with the stuff that came in the Canakit Rpi4. Im gunna check the temp later when running emulationstation in game see how high it gets.
Thanks man I appreciate your videos! Big help I'm a decent computer guy but new to the terminal and all that, Linux so to speak. Only used Ubuntu for a few months don't know much.
Hey cool video as always. Can you also provide some information about the heat situation? Do you also know if RPI Foundation will allow us to overclock RPI4 above 2ghz without losing the warranty?
I think the Pi 3b+ streams pretty good without h264ify. I have streamed from network sites, but active cooling is a must for long term watching. In truth streaming higher than 720 is a waste of bandwidth and offers no real benefit in my opinion.
Haha sorry but are you stupid? Streaming at 720p is a pain especially on youtube where 4k doesnt even look good
1- Can it maintain this speeds with cpu and gpu on a daily usage ?
2- Can gpu be overclocked further and does it need extra cooling other than the heatsink & fan ?
3- How do these effect gameplay performance with various emulators ?
Thanks :)
1. Unless you have turbo mode forced, the Pi is not constantly operating at 2 gHz. It still idles at 666 mHz, clocks higher as needed, and rather than capping out at 1.5 gHz, continues to increase until it hits 2. This means that, so long as you are not doing tasks that constantly require your Pi to be overclocked, it's not going to be running that high all the time. Can it maintain the speed, if needed? Sure. But just bear in mind that the more you use a system component the faster it wears out.
2a. I'm pretty sure 2 gHz is the hardware-imposed limitation. I may be wrong though.
2a(add): Oh you said GPU. Not sure.
2b. Use `watch -n1 vcgencmd measure_temp` and keep an eye on the temps as you do whatever you typically do with your Pi. If that readout approaches the danger zone (80+ degrees), then you should probably look into improving your cooling situation. Some cases and fan configurations are better at heat dissipation than others. Some have more blades in the fan, some have more open space, some are designed to be heat sinks as well as fans. Experiment and see what gives you the best temperature. If you're not regularly approaching the danger zone, then the setup you have is probably ok.
Hey man. Huge fan. Just wanted to know when will you make a video of the emulation test of raspberry pi 4 specifically gamecube and ps2. Can't wait.
Don't think it's nearly powerful enough for those...
Worked perfectly, thank you so much for the help
ETA PRIME CONTENT the best thank you Mr ETA prime
HOLY CRAP 2.00 GHz on a micro form factor PC!? That is the equivalent of running a full-sized, desktop PC at 5.0+ GHz. Nicely done RP team and ETA Prime!
Where did you pull 2.00GHz equivalent to 5.0 GHz? lol
@@testtest8399 For a micro form factor PC to achieve 2.0 GHz with its limited circuitry, limited thermal management capacity and restricted programming is an equivalent achievement is what I meant. A processor running at 5.0 GHz can arguably achieve more on a quantitative level, but on a qualitative level a 2.0 GHz miniature processor is doing the same work. Relative to the capacities of each PC, they are doing the same work. (If anything, you could argue the Pi is perhaps exceeding the desktop PC because it is running some of the same programming with less resources, but that is a debate I will leave to the fanboys.)
I just lapped my Ice tower... be ready for competition.
Hey how did it go? Can you provide updates? :D
After you update and upgrade, you also likely need to install sysbench:
sudo apt-get install sysbench
You don't need to update the firmware if it's 5.15 or fairly recent, 5.15 worked fine for me
Very helpful video. Will sudo apt upgrade upgrade the EEPROM as well or do I need to do apt full-upgrade
I never overclock everything but would Love to Learn how...
RBP4 Looks easy to overclock...
As for TH-cam playback, I found that by default hardware acceleration doesn't work too well with chrome. I played around with some settings to get WebGL demos to work, and was able to get the fishtank demo to run at about between 10-30FPS full screen with small amounts of fish, at 1080p. It seems to have a weird cap though, as decreasing the number of fish will not speed up pass the weird 10-30FPS cap.
Either way you might be able to get a bit better yt performance if you play with chrome flags, but its a pain in the butt.
In-browser video may look bad - but open the youtubez in VLC and it plays fine!
Good vid.
Is it possible you could do a vid, with pi4 running on two monitors, as they claim, ie 4k on both desktops.
Is that what they claim this can do?
If that is, could you possibly do a test vid, to show, if pi4, can actually run two desktops on 2x4k monitors.
Next task is:
Can it run crysis?
@@user-yv2cz8oj1k ok can it run chrome
UnrealCrash can it run Minecraft
@@axiomloves21 the rpi3 can run it with optifine on lowest with 30fps i did that already
UnrealCrash no man made computer can run that God knows how the devs made it
It probably could if you force the resolution super low and have the settings the lowest possible.
Is the GPU capable of running a full heavy X desktop like GNOME now?
Maybe, but the RAM might not... LOL.
GNOME has windows-level RAM usage (Well not quite, windows is TERRIBLE but GNOME isn't exactly efficient)
GRACIAS ETA PRIME!! =) RBPI4 is my HOUSE PC Family for only $70usd
Are you going to do a emulator test with this OC?
Thanks for doing these. You are right the little aluminum heat sinks are pretty much a joke. I have a Flirc on order. Still would be interested in a Ice tower IF I could find a case that would work with it. Just enough to protect the board is all I am looking for. Any ideas?
i kind of guestimated that the rpi3 case (with the removable cover on top leaving the hole above the cpu open in the case) could be a good candidate to allow at least the heatsink trough. unsure of the heatsink+fan tough. you'll have to remove the slids between the usb ports and lan port on the front to make it fit and leave the side panel of the case but i don't know it's testable without wrecking the case immediately:P
I think to be effective, it will have to be a style that separates the board attachment from the case "stack". That is, it would need four bolts to tie the board down to the case and a separate four bolts to "tie" the case together. So far everything I have seen that might fit would involve leaving the top open. In a way I am a little surprised that the guys that came up with this have not put out a case. Although they may not have thought that it would be as popular as it is becoming.
For a good gaming test, try running full Minecraft Java Edition on it. LowSpecGamer did it on a RaspberryPi 2 and the thing struggled even with OptiFine (a mod which improves performance in case you don't know). This was on 1.8. (which was outdated even at the time), so newer versions can only get worse (at least in my experience).
I am running these settings for about 2 weeks continuous use with no problems. I do have a case with a fan.
over_voltage=6
arm_freq=2140
gpu_freq=750
These are based from another youtube video. You tube video playback has not buffered at all...yet.
Have you tried the CPU stress test with those? I'm using those and everything is running fine till I kick off the CPU stress test which reboots the system. Here is the command "stress-ng --cpu 0 --cpu-method fft"
@@johnjohnson999 I have tried that particular test, but when I get back home, I can give it a try
@@johnjohnson999 This command gives a "command not found" error. Is there something else I need to prefix the command with?
Thanks
@@garystout4300 yes, you need to run this first (sudo apt install stress-ng mesa-utils). Here is the original article www.raspberrypi.org/blog/thermal-testing-raspberry-pi-4/
An absolute madlad
My flaps and box are ready to be violated
Awesome! Time to liquid cool it and push it to 30Fps Crysis
Every time nano is used, a cute puppy dies
Hi!
I'm new to overclocking so here's my probably stupid question:
After I overclocked my PI4 in Raspbian, does it stays overclock if I boot my PI4 directly into Lakka or I need to make some changes?
I would also like to know this
Also trying to figure this out. I edited the config files for both Raspbien and Lakka with these changes, but I can't detect any meaningful improvement in Lakka, and I can't find a way to monitor temp or CPU in Lakka either. I remain confused.
What would the power draw be for this overclock though?
1200w
2 MW.
It Worked! Thanks!
Dang, tried it on my brand new 8Gb Ram model, not so good. oh boy
Ran this sudo apt-get install --reinstall raspberrypi-kernel seemed to have fixed it. still overclocked.
get the extension H264ify and try playing videos that way. the issue with TH-cam stuff is that the VB8/9 file format they use on YT is CPU intensive, whereas that plugin will use inbuilt H264 decoding to playback videos. ive done this with ten year old computers and its crazy,
...where are the thermal results though?
I run my Pi4/2G at 2GHz/600Mhz (CPU/GPU) and if I just did a brief sysbench stress-test. The temperature goes up to 58 degrees C. I'm using a Pimoroni PiBow Coupé case with their large CPU heatsink (40x30x5mm) and on top of that I've got a Noctua NF-A4x20 5V PWM.
@@cherrymountains72, hey, I was looking to get that exact case for a future pi, what kind of clearances does it have for a small Tower cooler such as the one he was using in the video?
Can't wait til they fully unlock it. L2N PI 4 days
PRIME it seems like with the latest RPI firmware, we are now not allowed to specify gpu_freq=xxx.
Maybe a video about the new turbo mode overclock would be nice :)
thank you, this is the first time someone has posted why i cant overclock my gpu, i thought i was doing something wrong.
If you have noobs,you can also change the config if you press shift on bootup. You should have mensiont that.
Can you list out what pi4 can do (except Browsing & viewing videos) and show us an example videos. need a comparision also over a traditional laptop or desktop functionality. What kind of software it can run??
@4:17 Simply type apt, since apt-get is outdated.
Old habits die hard :)
Can u run ubuntu mate on a raspberry pi cluster? Thx for the video
Wow, overclocked to 1,6 and this shit just melted...
Hello eta prime in your instruction in the description you forgot to add sudo on this line apt update && apt upgrade