What a selfless son sacrificing his life for his mother but as a mother you should never allow your child to take the hit for you and blow his life away, sad story 😢
Same sentiments, I've seen crime shows where the mom or the parent takes the blame to give their child a chance to thrive. What more for a kid with such a promising life.
Their hands are tied if the mother refuses to press charges. Victims do this because they might legitimately be scared of retaliation when they get out.
That kid was supposed to leave, and do his own life; never be in the middle of a quarrel between two lovers, they fight now, later they are in bed. Once I intervened to protect my Mom from my abusive Father, I pushed him back away from my Mother - result: I was kicked out from the house, and my father and mother got back together again.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if both were abusive. Granted I also wouldn’t be surprised if the mom faked it to make it seem her excuse seem legit. Sorry but why not have a witness walk about it in this video about her being hurt. And wrappings mean nothing. The mom was clearly a liar and manipulator so who knows what the truth is.
This boy looked to his future with great hope. But his love for his mother was greater than his own future. I feel very sorry for this boy, that he sacrificed his own future to protect his mother.😥
There have been other cases very similar. Some involved kids much younger. Some had a sympathetic jury or DA. Had Jim Tan and his mom been upfront and had the mom not waited 4 days to call 9-11, he may have gotten off lightly. Jim was arrested two years later and convicted on a gun charge related to the incident. He got 20 years in prison.
@@tristan583 Yes, you're right! No one knows exactly what happened in that house or the other house. In the comments, we're just trying to figure it out. For some reason, most people like to play detective. I think that's what the comment section is for.
@@candiceihuoma6093 Yes, I completely agree with you! But it might be that in Chinese culture, where I think the wife is often oppressed, it's not so easy for her to leave her husband. This situation is so sad.
The judge basically determined that the son did it but he was kind of agree to that action and used his power to dismiss the case because he thought the killing was justified.
This happens all the time! Every time a woman is being abused, instead of her having the GD balls to act, nip it in the bud, or PhfruQk'n leave, she'll play poor, weak, defenseless in order to get help.
It’s obvious Charlie’s mom didn’t want to be bothered with filing for divorce or a restraining order. She probably didn’t want to risk her comfortable economic status. For all we know, she could have been manipulating her son into wanting to defend her at any cost. When she should have taken legal action to get out of that marriage. It’s so obvious she wanted her husband dead and recruited her son to carry it out or cover for her.
Well, Charlie Tan was sentenced to 20 yrs on weapons charges. He admitted to killing his father. On Feb. 4, 2015 Tan wrote that his mother indicated the “next time” his father would kill her. “I knew that in killing my father I would be throwing away my future, but I wasn’t thinking of that after the February 4 call" "They [attorneys] advised me not to admit that I shot my father. They were the legal experts, and so I accepted that strategy, even though I knew what I had done was wrong.” The mother is selfish and destroyed this young man's life. There are things you don't involve kids in, and this is one of them. She had the police and the domestic hotline for this.
You must not be versed in the reality of domestic abuse and men with money and power! The authorities rarely help!!! RARELY!!!! The reality of the system is very scary.
Its wrong for parents to live in an abusive relationship. It affects the children mentally. Whoever is abused in a relationship should leave or fight for her/his rights. Stop staying in an abusive relationship for the sake of children. They suffer the most mentally
easy to say, hard to do.... if everyone was that strong, then there would be no abuse in this world. but yes I agree, parents have to muster their strength and leave somehow
Why do you think she did it? Charlie had a fraternity brother buy the gun, then drove to Rochester and shot his father so he would never beat his mother again. He has freely admitted this. If the mother had the guts to do it herself, I would think it would have happened a long time ago!
If the mom did it, then she clearly doesn’t give a f*** about her child. Ruined his life instead of taking the blame for her actions and making sure her child can live his life. The father was likely abusive and instead of leaving, she killled the guy and got her son involved. CPS is completely useless.
They said she “wasn’t strong enough to shoot the gun” if that’s the case she hired someone to kill him and letting the son take the rap for it. It’s truly sad. I’d go to jail for killing him especially if he was abusive. Honestly I’d take the rap for my daughter so she could live her life if it was a 1 time offense I knew she’d never do again so that she could live her life I’ve lived mine I’m 56
As a child psychologist, I can say straight out that the social workers and police officers at the time were absolutely out of line. They not only ruined that child's life, they ruined her father's life. Everyone involved in that case should 100% be sued. Every social worker, every police officer, every person involve from Health and Human Services. They were incompetent and they absolutely were NOT acting in good faith. They were looking for a quick and easy scape goat.
Every single word you said on your statements is genuinely correct Unfortunately all the officials involved in this case are above the law that's why they haven't been held accountable for their incompetence
They didn’t protect the child. All they did was ruin a child into thinking her father is a horrible person. And they stole 2 kids from the father. The least they could have done was to apologize. 😢
Clicked on the video thinking I was gonna hate on the son for murdering his dad for prob a stupid or nonsensical reason but I’m actually totally on his side! He was prob witness to the abuse since his early childhood and was finally fed up
We don’t know enough. The mother was obviously manipulative and selfish. The father was the victim. There was no proof she was a victim and was selfish enough to avoid accountability.
@@ryansantos6785exactly, why do you think she never followed through with a restraining order? She didn’t want a thorough investigation. She was building a case by calling police to her house. And letting people know she was “battered.” But in reality, she could have been planting that idea to culminate it in his murder and keeping all the money and the house.
I agree completely since I've lived it. My mother also pulled me into her world involving a 14 year old boy and depending way too much on him. SHE was the adult. It was HER relationship and hers alone - SHE needed to put on her big girl underwear and deal with it. The son undoubtedly felt an immense pressure, (albeit undue), to have to protect his mother. She probably didn't make a conscious effort to NOT involve her son. Hell, she called him at school complaining about the abuse. That's a tremendous mindfuck to put on a kid. It was weak and reckless and disrespectful and shameful and codependent AF!
@@purplelove3666 I don't know what privilege Asians have (I am Asian, and I hope I do have some privilege:)). Talking about if the mother's size would have kept her from firing the shotgun. I don't know if the Police have investigated if she had ever fired a shotgun before. Had the Police checked the mother if she had any impact marks like bruises on her shoulder or torso possibly caused by the shotgun recoil.. . If she had never fired a shotgun before, I do believe she would have suffered some kinds of bruises if she was the one who pulled the trigger.
He admitted he tricked friend into buying g-. He planned to flee to china but changed his mind because he was afraid his mother or brother would be charged.
@@pinkcamille80did you ever think that she coerced her son into this? Just because he committed the murder doesn’t mean he did this alone. Being the mastermind of it is also apart of committing the murder, which was most likely his mother. She fled to another country while the son was on trial….
It's more unfortunate that you and people like you have the brain cells of a gnat that you can't think or consider anything beyond your myopic perspective and poison society with your ignorance. Educate yourself on abused victims of chronic domestic violence lest you show your ignorance.
In the Asian culture the children are raised to honor the parents. It seems that Charlie took that tenet seriously since his mother was being abused. He probably thought he could handle being locked up but she had already been emotionally locked up just from living w/her husband.
that doesn't equate to having her son to take her fall. I was a survivor of domestic violence, so close to death before i escaped with my 3 young boys all below 8 years of age. I will never let my son's life destroyed for my sake, no matter what. FYI I am asian too.
most men with power and money who can be abusive towards their wife. Don't get me wrong I know there are few good men with power , money and grounded. Anyway either a woman or man they can be abusive to their partner, wife and husband.Hurt people tend to hurt other people.
You can't be certain, I hate to say but some women will lie even though nothing happened. I know people who are like this, had experience someone who got in my face during an argument and hit me and when I stood up for myself this person started crying victim but there was a witness who said you caused it and attacked first.
A woman or a man can be manipulative and abusive and that is why you have to document every incident of abuse because you need an evidence when you sue them. Anyway, I'm glad that there was a witness for you that she attacked you first..anyone can be mean and abusive..hopefully you are safe. Most good men and women can attract a narcissist .Because the narcissist loves the attention of an empath and when you say no to the narcissist and they can't take it for no answer and they start the smearing campaigne and they go to the people you know and sway the narrative . You have to stay away and no contact to the narcissist. If you can move out to another state if possible. Dealing with relationship with narcissist is like that you are walking on the egg shell. anyway , I really don't know your situation but I only give you an example.
probably true, but mom could have left to a shelter or family friend's house instead of having her son do her bidding... really shows the chokehold asian parents have over their children...
Wow... it's incredible to see someone willing to throw away all of their accomplishments and a bright future. The bond between the mom and son must be something else
I have one child,a son but I'm not willing to ever do anything that would test our bond to this extent. That is absolutely not a flex what that mom did.
@@IndiDe thank you. I found an update afterwards. A really messed up life. His brother is living in Indonesia or one of those Asian countries. I wonder what happened to his mom.
As someone who was wrongly accused of a crime by El Paso County Colorado I can attest to the life long trauma they ate capable of causing and their complete dismissal of their responsibility to the person they tortured. It has been 28 years and as I am typing this my hands ate shaking. It has only been this year that I have ever even spoke of what they did to me. This year as I began to research the crime they accused me of I am beginning to find some peace. I hope Brad finds peace from the courage that he has to speak out, I want him to know he has helped me to get a little closer to speaking out.
I've always been disgusted by Jean. Every time she called the cops, they would try to get her help, but she'd refuse and drop the charges. It's one thing to choose to stay in an abusive relationship, but to allow your children to be abused is horrific behavior. There is no excuse. She did not protect her sons. I can't help but feel for Charlie. He had so much potential.
Yes, all the years Charlie had to endure his dad abusing his mom and she waits until he’s an adult, to ruin his life. She’s a disgusting woman and mother.
I wonder if the 'abuse' was even real. Could just be a plan enacted to create a paper trail of unproven abuse, as it would prove beneficial no matter the end, either it be divorce or unaliving the husband...
@@N0xiety I've seen this case on other channels, and it was clear that there was abuse happening. However, she refused to get help. Charlie begged and begged her to leave him, but she wouldn't.
You're disgusted by the *victim* of **domestic violence** ? You even admit there was abuse happening. Yet you're mocking and deriding her terror and fear? Quite honestly, you're the disgusting one here. Get help.
Women who birth children in abusive households are beyond despicable The children don't choose it,the women do and all because they like the money,not the man
@@mathemat3939 You must be 199 years old. Lol, your outdated old fashioned mentality about "the oldest son to protect family" only happened 1/2 century ago. I"m asian and laughing at your dumb comment.
I am a senior British solicitor who has also successfully practiced at the Bar. I have also practiced as a Crown Prosecutor (District Attorney). My final comment on the Tan family murder is that Charley did not kill his father. A distraught abused women needs help especially after suffering years of violent torture. I commend the Judge he is a true servant of Almighty God. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Agree! Charley might’ve pulled the trigger to save his mom fr further abuse. In a way in telling him of her home situation she used him wittingly or unwittingly, driving him to do it for her. A classic psychological manipulation.
I really don’t believe either one of them done it. I know how it looks, but there’s a missing link to what’s really occurred here. I don’t think either one can be charged at this point a lot of families fight and abuse, but that does not make them a killer I think he upheld his mom scared that she done it, but I don’t think she did it either but without a reasonable doubt, I find both of them not guilty
You would be one of the worst solicitor in your country. It turned out Charlie eventually admitted to killing his dad. He's serving 20 years for this murder. You and this stupid judge were wrong. Very, very wrong.
To be fair I question if the abuse was faked we only have survivors testimony of it and well the survivors in the family well have a motive to lie unfortunately. Wrappings bandages mean nothing they can just as easy cover a wound as it can give the illusion of an injury. And unfortunately on top of all of that the people who are accusing the dad are proven liars at this point. Why not lie about this abuse?
You’d have to have been in a bitter end of an abusive relationship. Otherwise, you probably won’t understand. And Imagine your mum giving u one last call before she offed herself too.
@jannahpablosky4282 Move past this nonsense. We have no right to judge the mother, but the son can be judged. The sheer hypocrisy is astounding. People are literally judged daily at work, school, subconsciously by themselves and others; even convicts face evaluation in court.
How…? wtf?! I didn’t get that vibe at all. She sounded genuinely scared, and it’s already proven fact she was continuously violently abused by her husband during their entire relationship. Multiple witnesses seeing injuries and bruises. Cops came to house 12x in one year. Yet she fakes a call only to not want to get her husband arrested hence why he wasn’t? Makes no sense. Someone who fakes DV do so with the goal of getting their significant other in trouble. You prob just think it’s fake bc she has a heavy Asian accent. Ignorant af
what a selfish coward of a mother! She had ample choices to either leave or even fight back either by getting a gun herself or through lawful means! what a selfish women for involving her kid! The poor guy sacrificed his promising future
I think she had him kill his father. Or maybe he himself had a tumultuous relationship with his father and took this opportunity to kill him. He definitely came home from school with a purpose. I see him as an aggressive wannabe hero type who may have escalated the situation into murder.
Hate to type this, but how can we be so sure that she was being abused? What if she planned this for a long time, appeared in front of neighbors with bandage while the husband was at work, over time, and then called 911 now and then to report abuse when there was none....and then finally kill the guy? It would look exactly like she was acting in self defense. A woman could totally get away with it pretty easily I think!
@@SueP-jg9vx What you suggest would be extremely rare. The son was stable and a successful student. He had to have at least one good parent for guidance, and if he is defending his mother, it seems obvious that she was the good parent. Domestic violence is more common than what you might think, especially in certain cultures where they have more power hierarchies.
@@supme7558 it not illegal to buy a gun and give it to someone. is it stupid yes, as long as the friends is kept in the dark. he can't be convicted. hell, it not even required to registered a handgun or shotgun. gun law are pretty much non existent once you bought it.
Why would you let your friend have a gun to use.. and you know Charlie told him... or if he absolutely didn't say a word but I still wouldn't let my friend have a shotgun
Completely f#@ked up that the mother pulled the son into her responsibility! Horrible Codependency! I don't necessarily care that they took out an abuser, but it wasn't the right way.
Even if he did it, if this was my son I would take the fall. The guilt would weigh too heavily for me to walk free while my young son's life is ruined. What a sad situation all around.
Sounds like mom Jean was tired to be a punching ball.... and just 4 clarification: I believe the mom (Jean) killed her abusive husband, by accident/in self-defense or intentionally. And possibly understandable. What I find absolutely despicable and UNACCEPTABLE: to ruin her kid's life by manipulating or even forcing him to take the blame for HER crime! 🤬 I really hope Karma has her number (for doing that).
Children can be loyal to a fault to their parents, Charlie Tan was being railroaded by his Mom 😮SMDH 😢 Common sense points to the Mom, hands down, she did what other people don't do, sit in an interrogation room and NOT talk but they might have planned this together 🤨
I'm pretty sure it was the son's idea to all this. He had it all calculated and he knew he could get away with a mistrial. Remember, he's part of the fraternity at Cornell, a place with no shortage of legal experts. Heck, I think even the judge was playing a role in his favorite.
@@mpmartin1588it’s nothing unusual for some mothers to lean on their son as their man! You see it time and time again with young males working trying to pay bills while momma lays at home….
The bada$s judge did a Mic drop and went against everyone and threw out his murder charge as his last action as judge. So the prosecutor went ahead and braught weapons charges against the son that would put him in prison for 15 yrs. Its disgusting. Just for a conviction. This poor kid was trying to protect his mother, his father had tried to kill his mother several times and was abusive all around. A true scumbag and our system did nothing to stop him but prosecute the upstanding citizen son. He was in college making something of himself and was literally known to be the sweetest guy in town, helped charities, helped anyone he could. I hate our justice system! With dv, they make people have to take it into their own hands
Boys love their mom. This is a big part of why I left my abuser when having my kid. I knew that I wouldn't want to put him in a situation to either be killed or kill trying to protect me.
The prosecutor felt their strongest case was to charge the son with murder. She meant that they had more chance of winning the case against the son, not that he was the more guilty party. They just wanted to win.
At 15 Beth CAN NOT GO WILLINGLY. She’s a minor and can’t consent. He’s a predator, abused hie trusted position and should be in prison for life. I don’t care if it was a “relationship “. She’s a KID. I feel for that wife.
She may not LEGALLY have the right to 'consent' but at 15 and 'in love' she might go willingly. This does NOT let HIM off the hook, he's old enough to know better
@@jillp3761 I know what you mean. We’ve all been a teen thinking we were in love. At that age it’s a powerful emotion. But I also remember when I was 15, I’d fall out of “love” just as fast. It’s so insidious to go after minors. It floors me people seem to forget what they were like as a teen. We all thought we knew what we wanted at 15, and by 18 we’re completely different people.
This case baffles me. So who shot the father? If Charlie, did not then why did he feel the need to cover up for his mother. She's obviously a domestic violence victim & the jury would have looked kindly on her. Charlier defence team should have showed evidence of years of physical abuse by his father towards his mother. It just seem so wrong that Charlie was eventually sentenced to 20yrs in jail in his re-trial.
She said “he is already dead” knowing that the call was made days after the husband was unalive then clarified her statement on the 911 call…”he is already dead”.
my theory is that he bought the gun for his mother for her protection, and he is also taking the rap for her. him saying “i had to do it, he was going to kill my mother” was in reference to purchasing the shotgun
@cocoace7587 They’re charging him with other things on the pretext of gun possession. 20 years is almost a manslaughter charge. I feel sorry for Charlie..
she can do anything she wants, but ultimately letting the son take the fall is the biggest crime she had done. Throwing away her own son's future for some comfort at home and pocket full of cash? She don't deserved to be call his mum.
Did everyone forget that there had been a long standing history of domestic violence in the house where the wife showed signs of injury including the fact that the police had been called to the house over a dozen times over the years and just weeks before the murder, the wife called 911 AGAIN and she was clearly terrified but the husband took the phone away. Can't everyone see that the wife was afraid to press charges for fear of her life? It was just a matter of time that he would have killed her. Whether she killed him or the son killed him was eliminating the threat.
You know the mum could have gotten a lesser punishment since shes got years of evidence of domestic violence, but to throw the son under the bus is simply beyond words.
We need to create more laws to protect women. The Abused have to deal with a psychopath at home and the police can do nothing??? We need to allow automatic orders of protection.
The police did nothing to help that woman. Multiple calls. She was too afraid to run because she had no where to go. This is failed system. The husband should of got arrested for attempted murder. The police blew it off and gave the wife a card for domestic violence. She knew that she had no help. Pathetic
This is crazy! Domestic violence is the only crime in which the victim could call the police while it’s happening, the perpetrator could tell the cops not to bother, and the cops tell the victim she should try something else if it happens again.
Charlie should be released his dad was a monster, I cannot believe he is still in jail ....His dad was beating his mum BAD that is not cool, if you have ever been involved in dv you would do what you can when your life feels like its in danger . This dad was beating the mum really bad . That poor son and mother did what they had to be free
She is a selfish murder. There is no proof she was abused. She let her son take the blame she obviously not a good person. Woman lie. She had enough time to prove her allegations. She was probably seeing someone and her boyfriend did it. Then she manipulated her son. Everything that can be proven says the mother was a monster.
@@ryansantos6785 yall say anything to discredit a woman who was abused. Men do everything except reflect and accept the monsters they are. The son had a choice and he should be held equally accountable for his part in it to as unfortunate as it is.
I literally don't understand some of these lawyers. Yes its their job to fight for the deceased murdered person, BUT WHY on earth would you even go through the hassle of trying to appeal if you knew that dead man was morally effed up person with dozens of physical abuse police visits/calls. These lawyers MUST be smart enough to know what emotional abuse causes someone especially a child growing up. Not excusing this son for killing anyone, but sometimes people indeed just snap when they reach their breaking point. And he's not a cold blooded murder going out on a spree nor killed his dad for no reason or a paycheck...rather his MOTHER was being physically abused and he couldn't stand it. The first trial let him off...so let it go!
What's there to understand? This son and his mother are responsible for killing the father. If things were that bad the mother could have left. When the father was murdered he was working, not assaulting the mother. If I was the judge or on a jury they would have each gotten at least 20 or 30 years. I wouldn't be surprised if the father was cheating and the mother did not another woman to benefit after all the years she'd put in.
Why are they so eager to put victims of abuse in jail? Why does the justice system rarely believe a self-defense defense when it comes to abused individuals.. She's a victim. He's an abuser. Case closed. I'm so tired of victims being treated like criminals and being put behind bars for standing up to their abusers/attackers.
Is there proof of the abuse? Or just calls? One could easily fabricate it, call for abuse, when cops come refuse help and drop the charges, rinse repeat a few times, create a paper trail of fabricated abuse. It would prove beneficial however way it ends, either be divorce or unaliving the rich husband...
If the mom did do it, then I lost all sympathy for her bc she involved her son. Also, she could have had a fighting chance at self defense. Maybe. Idk. But regardless you don’t involve your kids so I hope she’s telling the truth. But it doesn’t feel like she did tell the truth in my opinion.
So they let that psycho wife beater go after the cops came out for a domestic dispute. If it was me not being rich I would I've been hauled off to jail immediately I am so sick and tired of all of these double standards
His mom is 100% the killer. She either did it herself and staged the whole thing, or lied to Charlie that his father was gonna do something very dangerous to her.
Agree. Mother and Charlie are both adults and could have left the residence and start fresh by finding jobs and working instead of unaliving another human.
The mother didn't have the strength to lift and shoot the shotgun??? Apparently the DA in the murder trial of Charlie Tran, hasn't heard of your nervous system giving someone extra strength and power them through a stressful situation, i.e., an adrenaline rush.
Wife or husband should be financially independent.. If one is abusive... Just leave. go live somewhere else. Then file for divorce... Never be greedy for husband's wealth.
It is not as easy as it seems to leave an abusive situation. The abuser is way too smart to let the victim go that easy. Please don’t blame the victim. - former domestic violence advocate
Look it is Sandra Doorley, the above the law DA from Rochester who refused to stop for the traffic cop. Pity the poor defendants that have to deal with that loud mouth, super entitled witch of a prosecutor.
Good call. Now that u mentioned it, it came back to me when I saw that TH-cam video of Doorley refusing to pull her vehicle over with the cop right on her tail, “lighting her up.” Boy, that incident made her out to look like one condescending, entitled “B-word”, just because she happens to be the DA for Rochester, NY. She of all people should know she’s not “above the law.”
I was really repulsed by the prosecutors. It's their job to ensure justice is seen, not to assume his guilt before it's even been tested in a court of law. They acted like they were upset they couldn't go after him. Didn't respect that.
Everything she's ever prosecuted should be thrown out her behavior that day showed how devious she could be and who knows how many innocent people she has in jail.
The husband may have been an abusive man towards his wife, but if there is a monster in this story, it’s the mother. She ruined his life in my opinion.
Poor Charlie! All American boy who couldn't escape the tentacles of his sicko family traditions. And damn the prosecutors, who couldn't just move on. Nope, when they didn't get a "win" in the murder trial, they hauled him in on gun charges, and now he's serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison. How is that in anyone's best interest?
Correct, the prosecutor just wanted to blame someone to show that they’re so capable of bringing charges. 20 years is akin to a manslaughter charge! There’s not enough evidence to show Charlie pulled the trigger. It’s a tragedy all around. His life is over cos of his mother’s messy relationship with his father. 😭
@@femdivinemind7777 Indeed! It makes me wonder whether that one tenacious prosecutor, who was called out by the judge, beats up his own wife and kids. This story hits hard, because I had a lot of Asian high school students, and I well remember what some of them went through with their immigrant parents when all they wanted to do was be plain old American kids.
I was a domestic violence advocate and hearing that she called 911 several times and the police just leaving a card is baffling to me. They should have connected her to the advocates they have at the police station who could have educated and assisted her with safety protocols and addressed barriers to her leaving the situation. Or connected to community resources like DV nonprofits for long term services. I don’t blame the mom or the son, it’s the law enforcement’s negligence that has caused this tragedy.
@@purplelove3666 In 2010, Jodi Arias, a petite woman, was convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander. Despite her small stature, she displayed significant strength and determination in committing the crime. Women of all races, even petite ones, possess incredible strength, especially when enraged. Their resilience and fierce determination make them unstoppable. A woman full of anger can exhibit incredible strength due to the adrenaline surge, which boosts her physical power and sharpens her focus, making her a force to be reckoned with regardless of race.
What a selfless son sacrificing his life for his mother but as a mother you should never allow your child to take the hit for you and blow his life away, sad story 😢
Same sentiments, I've seen crime shows where the mom or the parent takes the blame to give their child a chance to thrive. What more for a kid with such a promising life.
I think charlie (the son) hired his friend to buy the gun and commit the murder. He seems sketchy.
I agree and very well said!😊
😊😊😊😊
@@macdaddyalexisagreed. Why the hell didn’t they make that friend testify?
I'm left wondering if the husband was ever arrested for domestic violence. 12 home visits from police and all they do is leave a card. Absurd.
You can't arrest dad if mom constantly changes her story or simply refused to press charges. He'll end up winning in court.
What's new. They are so incompetent in their job.
Their hands are tied if the mother refuses to press charges. Victims do this because they might legitimately be scared of retaliation when they get out.
That kid was supposed to leave, and do his own life; never be in the middle of a quarrel between two lovers, they fight now, later they are in bed. Once I intervened to protect my Mom from my abusive Father, I pushed him back away from my Mother - result: I was kicked out from the house, and my father and mother got back together again.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if both were abusive.
Granted I also wouldn’t be surprised if the mom faked it to make it seem her excuse seem legit. Sorry but why not have a witness walk about it in this video about her being hurt. And wrappings mean nothing.
The mom was clearly a liar and manipulator so who knows what the truth is.
This boy looked to his future with great hope. But his love for his mother was greater than his own future. I feel very sorry for this boy, that he sacrificed his own future to protect his mother.😥
There have been other cases very similar. Some involved kids much younger. Some had a sympathetic jury or DA. Had Jim Tan and his mom been upfront and had the mom not waited 4 days to call 9-11, he may have gotten off lightly. Jim was arrested two years later and convicted on a gun charge related to the incident. He got 20 years in prison.
Nonsense, you don’t know exactly what happened in that house
@@tristan583 Yes, you're right! No one knows exactly what happened in that house or the other house. In the comments, we're just trying to figure it out. For some reason, most people like to play detective. I think that's what the comment section is for.
I feel sorry for the son. I feel the mother should have left the husband and never put her son in that situation.
@@candiceihuoma6093 Yes, I completely agree with you! But it might be that in Chinese culture, where I think the wife is often oppressed, it's not so easy for her to leave her husband. This situation is so sad.
I have no problem with the judge dropping the case.
Yes me too! I was crying learning this Son’s sacrifice for his mother. But if I’m his mother, I will die for my child’s life not the other way around.
The judge basically determined that the son did it but he was kind of agree to that action and used his power to dismiss the case because he thought the killing was justified.
@@mapuu001 I'm confused, I read somewhere he was sentenced to 20 years but here says he was exonerated, so which is it?
@@arvy7765 I am not sure about that but he looked happy at the end of the sentencing.
I do!
What kind of mother would allow her young son to ruin his young life in this manner.
Manipulative and evil.
i’m guessing they knew he wouldn’t be convicted cause the evidence wouldn’t match up
This happens all the time! Every time a woman is being abused, instead of her having the GD balls to act, nip it in the bud, or PhfruQk'n leave, she'll play poor, weak, defenseless in order to get help.
@@jeep19 damn, chill andrew tate.
@@jeep19 the father was abusive.
@@jeep19 Who feels it knows it. Easier said than done. You are completely wrong to judge this abused woman.
It’s unfortunate that Charlie’s mother involved her son who was doing really well at university into her chaos. Truly heartbreaking.
selfish
😂 typical Asian behavior. Good at math . Not good at critical thinking analysis.
Very SELFISH 😮
It’s obvious Charlie’s mom didn’t want to be bothered with filing for divorce or a restraining order. She probably didn’t want to risk her comfortable economic status.
For all we know, she could have been manipulating her son into wanting to defend her at any cost.
When she should have taken legal action to get out of that marriage.
It’s so obvious she wanted her husband dead and recruited her son to carry it out or cover for her.
I disagree in this case, that she was selfish.........not in this case, imo.
Well, Charlie Tan was sentenced to 20 yrs on weapons charges. He admitted to killing his father.
On Feb. 4, 2015 Tan wrote that his mother indicated the “next time” his father would kill her.
“I knew that in killing my father I would be throwing away my future, but I wasn’t thinking of that after the February 4 call"
"They [attorneys] advised me not to admit that I shot my father. They were the legal experts, and so I accepted that strategy, even though I knew what I had done was wrong.”
The mother is selfish and destroyed this young man's life. There are things you don't involve kids in, and this is one of them. She had the police and the domestic hotline for this.
Thanks for the update.
Admission doesn't mean much people falsely confess all the time.
@@TheFakeyCakeMaker He must of felt guilty to have confessed after the judge exonerated him.
You must not be versed in the reality of domestic abuse and men with money and power! The authorities rarely help!!! RARELY!!!! The reality of the system is very scary.
lol, the police left a business card after she called 911 begging. Great help 👍
What makes her think that woman wasn’t capable of shooting a 12h shotgun??!
Internalized misogyny.
Asian women bone density
They have been using that line at least 100 years.
I was thinking the same thing!!!
@@Allen.alledgedly2that doesn't make sense..
Its wrong for parents to live in an abusive relationship. It affects the children mentally. Whoever is abused in a relationship should leave or fight for her/his rights. Stop staying in an abusive relationship for the sake of children. They suffer the most mentally
Totally, I hate when people say that they’re staying because of kids. They’re not doing any favourite to their children. On the contrary.
easy to say, hard to do.... if everyone was that strong, then there would be no abuse in this world. but yes I agree, parents have to muster their strength and leave somehow
Couldn’t agree more
If you haven't lived it...don't JUDGE!
@@tambui2587 same story here fam. it is traumatizing.
It's despicable if she would allow her child to take the blame for a murder she actually committed!!
Why do you think she did it? Charlie had a fraternity brother buy the gun, then drove to Rochester and shot his father so he would never beat his mother again. He has freely admitted this. If the mother had the guts to do it herself, I would think it would have happened a long time ago!
@@TheSpawnycat Anything is possible, but, i am still not there yet. This is much more to this tale than meets the eye...
If the mom did it, then she clearly doesn’t give a f*** about her child. Ruined his life instead of taking the blame for her actions and making sure her child can live his life. The father was likely abusive and instead of leaving, she killled the guy and got her son involved.
CPS is completely useless.
i completely agree. why didn’t she just say she did it in self defense?
They said she “wasn’t strong enough to shoot the gun” if that’s the case she hired someone to kill him and letting the son take the rap for it. It’s truly sad. I’d go to jail for killing him especially if he was abusive. Honestly I’d take the rap for my daughter so she could live her life if it was a 1 time offense I knew she’d never do again so that she could live her life I’ve lived mine I’m 56
He did it . He bought the gun he shot him he admitted to it. Not everything is a conspiracy.
Tan is a Korean name, not Chinese.
@@swallowedinthesea11no it’s not.
I live in rochester, the mother also fled the country when her son went to trial
No 😂
Went home in China ...
Wow what w horrible mother no be there to support her son🫢
See, what kind of hopeless mother.
Sorry excuse for a mother. 😡😡😡
As a child psychologist, I can say straight out that the social workers and police officers at the time were absolutely out of line. They not only ruined that child's life, they ruined her father's life. Everyone involved in that case should 100% be sued. Every social worker, every police officer, every person involve from Health and Human Services. They were incompetent and they absolutely were NOT acting in good faith. They were looking for a quick and easy scape goat.
CPS never works in good faith. They legally kidnapp kids daily
Every single word you said on your statements is genuinely correct Unfortunately all the officials involved in this case are above the law that's why they haven't been held accountable for their incompetence
They didn’t protect the child. All they did was ruin a child into thinking her father is a horrible person. And they stole 2 kids from the father. The least they could have done was to apologize. 😢
It’s racism
I totally agree with you on this . They needed to be sued for being so irresponsible OR maybe the racism matter ????
Release that man. Criminals running around yet this kid in a toxic environment is rotting in jail. Disgusting.
🤡
This is a murder case. Murder is about as criminal as you can get.
Did you even watch the video?? The guy was release and never charged.
YOu cant take the law into your own hands, his dad was sitting at his desk when he blew his face off. Do the crime, be prepared to do the crime.
@@heavyd9103 he was later charged for the weapon and got 20 years
Clicked on the video thinking I was gonna hate on the son for murdering his dad for prob a stupid or nonsensical reason but I’m actually totally on his side! He was prob witness to the abuse since his early childhood and was finally fed up
We don’t know enough. The mother was obviously manipulative and selfish. The father was the victim. There was no proof she was a victim and was selfish enough to avoid accountability.
@@ryansantos6785exactly, why do you think she never followed through with a restraining order? She didn’t want a thorough investigation.
She was building a case by calling police to her house. And letting people know she was “battered.”
But in reality, she could have been planting that idea to culminate it in his murder and keeping all the money and the house.
@picilocarnal then why didn't the man get her arrested and exposed all those years?
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. She has records and a phone recording of her being abused. That didn’t just start. He’s been beating her up.
I agree completely since I've lived it. My mother also pulled me into her world involving a 14 year old boy and depending way too much on him. SHE was the adult. It was HER relationship and hers alone - SHE needed to put on her big girl underwear and deal with it.
The son undoubtedly felt an immense pressure, (albeit undue), to have to protect his mother. She probably didn't make a conscious effort to NOT involve her son. Hell, she called him at school complaining about the abuse. That's a tremendous mindfuck to put on a kid.
It was weak and reckless and disrespectful and shameful and codependent AF!
saying her size would keep her from firing the shotgun is absurd.
I don’t believe an Asian male can fire a 12 gauge. They have weak bone structure and are more adept to martial arts than duck hunting .
Thats that asian privilege
@@purplelove3666 I don't know what privilege Asians have (I am Asian, and I hope I do have some privilege:)). Talking about if the mother's size would have kept her from firing the shotgun. I don't know if the Police have investigated if she had ever fired a shotgun before. Had the Police checked the mother if she had any impact marks like bruises on her shoulder or torso possibly caused by the shotgun recoil.. . If she had never fired a shotgun before, I do believe she would have suffered some kinds of bruises if she was the one who pulled the trigger.
how lol?
@@purplelove3666 Cringe. Please, dedicate ALL of today to being better. You're the bottom of the barrel.
The da saying the mother was too weak to shoot a gun is totally insane.
Exactly. Just because she is a smaller woman doesn't mean that she can't or didn't pull the trigger. Smh
Right. And she keeps saying all these obvious clues that he did it like an Ivy League student is too stupid to be able to stage a cover up.
The mother love herself more than her son's future🤦
Google him. He later confessed with details.
she would of probably got off for self defense anyway rather than a strong young man come on now.....
He admitted he tricked friend into buying g-. He planned to flee to china but changed his mind because he was afraid his mother or brother would be charged.
@@pinkcamille80did you ever think that she coerced her son into this? Just because he committed the murder doesn’t mean he did this alone. Being the mastermind of it is also apart of committing the murder, which was most likely his mother. She fled to another country while the son was on trial….
It's more unfortunate that you and people like you have the brain cells of a gnat that you can't think or consider anything beyond your myopic perspective and poison society with your ignorance. Educate yourself on abused victims of chronic domestic violence lest you show your ignorance.
In the Asian culture the children are raised to honor the parents. It seems that Charlie took that tenet seriously since his mother was being abused. He probably thought he could handle being locked up but she had already been emotionally locked up just from living w/her husband.
that doesn't equate to having her son to take her fall. I was a survivor of domestic violence, so close to death before i escaped with my 3 young boys all below 8 years of age. I will never let my son's life destroyed for my sake, no matter what. FYI I am asian too.
If you are mother you would never let your child take the fall. The parents business are theirs… exclude the child in the chaos. I hate that woman.
They made an agreement and he took the fall for her
@@Calvin.rx1l Their agreement should have been to leave the residence. They were both adults and could have found jobs.
If the mum did it shes a scumbeg for not taking the fall and throwing the kid under the bus and ruining his life sad
A selfish, selfish woman.
And the father is not a scumbag for abusing his wife and starting the whole situation???
@@rainbowow5060how do you know he abuse her and wasn’t she who abuse him.
@@alidamouranie9055 during the trial numerous witnesses came forward and said that the mother was physically abused and had bruises all over her
@@rainbowow5060Obviously the father's a scumbag but the mother is also a scumbag for leaving him in the gutter. She is just as bad as the father.
Damn that woman is a scumbag to let her son take the fall. Especially when any court will give her a lot of leeway if she was truly battered.
Naaaa they would still give her atleast 20 years, which is like a life sentence if your in your early 50s
Yeah, Mr. Tan got whacked on a gun charge and sentenced to 20 years. Gun control.
Charlie did it
@@Allen.alledgedly2 Charlie bit my finger!
@@swallowedinthesea11 ouch Charlie 😂
His mother killed the father! The son helped cover it up.
There’s an update in the comments that he admitted to killing him by a letter.
What's really sad .....is the dad that ruined everyone's life with his abusive behavior. He was clearly a tyrant. My heart breaks for mom & son. 😢
most men with power and money
who can be abusive towards their
wife. Don't get me wrong I know there are
few good men with power , money and grounded.
Anyway either a woman or man they can be abusive
to their partner, wife and husband.Hurt people tend to hurt
other people.
Who knows maybe the mother was the evil one and find a way to kill her husband passing herself like the victim.
You can't be certain, I hate to say but some women will lie even though nothing happened. I know people who are like this, had experience someone who got in my face during an argument and hit me and when I stood up for myself this person started crying victim but there was a witness who said you caused it and attacked first.
A woman or a man can be manipulative and
abusive and that is why you have to document every incident of abuse because
you need an evidence when you sue them.
Anyway, I'm glad that there was a witness for you that she attacked you first..anyone can be mean and abusive..hopefully you are safe. Most good men and women can attract a narcissist .Because the narcissist loves the attention of an empath and when you say no to
the narcissist and they can't take it for no answer and they start the smearing campaigne and they go to the people you know and sway the narrative . You have to stay away and no contact to the narcissist. If you can move out to another state if possible. Dealing with relationship with narcissist is like that you are walking on the egg shell. anyway , I really don't know your situation but I only give you an example.
probably true, but mom could have left to a shelter or family friend's house instead of having her son do her bidding... really shows the chokehold asian parents have over their children...
The mother could've done it without dragging his son. She's old and he's young.
THE LEAST SHE COULD DO TO GIVE HER SON A LIFE.
Or she could just divorce her husband
Did anyone force her to live with him ??
Sorry to the good heart son!
Wow! Shame on the mom for implicating her son. I’m happy that Charlie was set free.
He was later charge for the murder weapon and given a 20yr sentence, he's in prison.
@@Airamimosa😮😮😮
@@AiramimosaSad
@@AiramimosaThis is sad. 😢
@@AiramimosaDamnnnn!
Wow... it's incredible to see someone willing to throw away all of their accomplishments and a bright future. The bond between the mom and son must be something else
If he’s willing to do that, imagine what else they’re willing to do. Especially after getting away with it the first time 🙂
@@dejuhvu1793 scary food for thought 😅
She’s probably emotionally abusing him
In©est relationship!
I have one child,a son but I'm not willing to ever do anything that would test our bond to this extent. That is absolutely not a flex what that mom did.
They put him in jail in 2018 for weapon charges. Mom meanwhile is a millionaire because she has half the company now.
Yup, mom is the greedy one here. She put her son up to it.
OK is he still in jail?
I was trying to find an update on them but none.
@@jamirishmamahe is in jail. Serving 20 years.
@@IndiDe thank you. I found an update afterwards. A really messed up life. His brother is living in Indonesia or one of those Asian countries. I wonder what happened to his mom.
His life is over
Cruel and selfish mother should've never gotten her son involved.
As someone who was wrongly accused of a crime by El Paso County Colorado I can attest to the life long trauma they ate capable of causing and their complete dismissal of their responsibility to the person they tortured. It has been 28 years and as I am typing this my hands ate shaking. It has only been this year that I have ever even spoke of what they did to me. This year as I began to research the crime they accused me of I am beginning to find some peace. I hope Brad finds peace from the courage that he has to speak out, I want him to know he has helped me to get a little closer to speaking out.
I've always been disgusted by Jean. Every time she called the cops, they would try to get her help, but she'd refuse and drop the charges. It's one thing to choose to stay in an abusive relationship, but to allow your children to be abused is horrific behavior. There is no excuse. She did not protect her sons. I can't help but feel for Charlie. He had so much potential.
Yes, all the years Charlie had to endure his dad abusing his mom and she waits until he’s an adult, to ruin his life. She’s a disgusting woman and mother.
I wonder if the 'abuse' was even real. Could just be a plan enacted to create a paper trail of unproven abuse, as it would prove beneficial no matter the end, either it be divorce or unaliving the husband...
@@N0xiety I've seen this case on other channels, and it was clear that there was abuse happening. However, she refused to get help. Charlie begged and begged her to leave him, but she wouldn't.
You're disgusted by the *victim* of **domestic violence** ? You even admit there was abuse happening. Yet you're mocking and deriding her terror and fear? Quite honestly, you're the disgusting one here. Get help.
Women who birth children in abusive households are beyond despicable
The children don't choose it,the women do and all because they like the money,not the man
His mother absolutely killed the father.
son confessed & is now in prison for twenty yrs.
@@stumack9755 protecting his mom. Which is a rough spot to be in. Tragic all around.
The mom did it but because she’s been abused by that husband, the son took the fall and feel it’s justified that he is dead
In many asian cultures it is the duty of the oldest son to protect everyone else in the family once the father is a deadbeat or dead.
@@mathemat3939 You must be 199 years old. Lol, your outdated old fashioned mentality about "the oldest son to protect family" only happened 1/2 century ago. I"m asian and laughing at your dumb comment.
I am a senior British solicitor who has also successfully practiced at the Bar. I have also practiced as a Crown Prosecutor (District Attorney). My final comment on the Tan family murder is that Charley did not kill his father. A distraught abused women needs help especially after suffering years of violent torture. I commend the Judge he is a true servant of Almighty God. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Agree! Charley might’ve pulled the trigger to save his mom fr further abuse. In a way in telling him of her home situation she used him wittingly or unwittingly, driving him to do it for her. A classic psychological manipulation.
I really don’t believe either one of them done it. I know how it looks, but there’s a missing link to what’s really occurred here. I don’t think either one can be charged at this point a lot of families fight and abuse, but that does not make them a killer I think he upheld his mom scared that she done it, but I don’t think she did it either but without a reasonable doubt, I find both of them not guilty
You would be one of the worst solicitor in your country. It turned out Charlie eventually admitted to killing his dad. He's serving 20 years for this murder. You and this stupid judge were wrong. Very, very wrong.
To be fair I question if the abuse was faked we only have survivors testimony of it and well the survivors in the family well have a motive to lie unfortunately. Wrappings bandages mean nothing they can just as easy cover a wound as it can give the illusion of an injury.
And unfortunately on top of all of that the people who are accusing the dad are proven liars at this point. Why not lie about this abuse?
Are you saying Charlie covered for his mum
The mom killed him but made him take the blame for it. Evil
It's a little more complicated than that.
@@TrojansFirsthow so?
We have no right to judge d mother cuz we don't know what really happened behind doors
You’d have to have been in a bitter end of an abusive relationship. Otherwise, you probably won’t understand. And Imagine your mum giving u one last call before she offed herself too.
@jannahpablosky4282 Move past this nonsense. We have no right to judge the mother, but the son can be judged. The sheer hypocrisy is astounding. People are literally judged daily at work, school, subconsciously by themselves and others; even convicts face evaluation in court.
Bad father, horrible mother! Poor kid!
Your priorities are warpedsick
How is the mom horrible?
The 911 call sounds fake from the mother
How…? wtf?! I didn’t get that vibe at all. She sounded genuinely scared, and it’s already proven fact she was continuously violently abused by her husband during their entire relationship. Multiple witnesses seeing injuries and bruises. Cops came to house 12x in one year. Yet she fakes a call only to not want to get her husband arrested hence why he wasn’t? Makes no sense. Someone who fakes DV do so with the goal of getting their significant other in trouble.
You prob just think it’s fake bc she has a heavy Asian accent. Ignorant af
Chinese opera vibes.
@@rubyparchment5523 Exactly😂😂😂😂
....like Shanda Van Ark after she had tortured her son. Crocodile tears?
@@rubyparchment5523Chinese Opera is classier than this act.
Now why would yall upload this video on Father's Day? lol 😂
lmao bffr they’re so messy
😭😭😭
Messyyyyyy😂
Because not all fathers deserve to be celebrated.
😂😂
what a selfish coward of a mother! She had ample choices to either leave or even fight back either by getting a gun herself or through lawful means! what a selfish women for involving her kid! The poor guy sacrificed his promising future
I think she had him kill his father.
Or maybe he himself had a tumultuous relationship with his father and took this opportunity to kill him.
He definitely came home from school with a purpose.
I see him as an aggressive wannabe hero type who may have escalated the situation into murder.
Hey it’s that entitled DA that was harassing the cop for pulling her over!
Congrats you and only one other person was able to call her out!!!!
O m g you're right it looks exactly like her
@@Taureanfitnesslol it is her, Sandra Doorley.
@@Codacoli 😳😀
The fact that he died 3 days before she called 911 is sketchy. She’s misjudging small women.
Exactly - size is no indicator of actual strength 💪🏽
Hate to type this, but how can we be so sure that she was being abused? What if she planned this for a long time, appeared in front of neighbors with bandage while the husband was at work, over time, and then called 911 now and then to report abuse when there was none....and then finally kill the guy? It would look exactly like she was acting in self defense. A woman could totally get away with it pretty easily I think!
@@SueP-jg9vx What you suggest would be extremely rare. The son was stable and a successful student. He had to have at least one good parent for guidance, and if he is defending his mother, it seems obvious that she was the good parent. Domestic violence is more common than what you might think, especially in certain cultures where they have more power hierarchies.
@@SueP-jg9vxreally? She acted for a long time before she killed him? Why but just walk away and talk half? Lol you make 0 sense.
@@Timpon_Dorz maybe she hated him and wanted ALL and not half?
What kind of mother would allow her son take the blame for her sloppy murder. Very disturbing if true
Buying a gun for your buddy is STUPID!
Not to mention illegal
@@supme7558 it not illegal to buy a gun and give it to someone. is it stupid yes, as long as the friends is kept in the dark. he can't be convicted. hell, it not even required to registered a handgun or shotgun. gun law are pretty much non existent once you bought it.
Why would you let your friend have a gun to use.. and you know Charlie told him... or if he absolutely didn't say a word but I still wouldn't let my friend have a shotgun
@@adriennem7927 Can't imagine the abuse or tales charlie told his friend. There is a paper trail of abuse from the father. Just saying
This must be years ago because now its impossible to buy a gun from Walmart and walk away with it the same day
Completely f#@ked up that the mother pulled the son into her responsibility! Horrible Codependency!
I don't necessarily care that they took out an abuser, but it wasn't the right way.
Wow , she’s letting her son who has a bright future take the rap for the killing, what a mom
So, what the wife was small, there are plenty of petite women that can handle a gun. Her point is moot!
It's a rifle, not a handgun. Not a woman would buy
I think it was Charlie's mother and then she panicked and called her son home.
Even if he did it, if this was my son I would take the fall. The guilt would weigh too heavily for me to walk free while my young son's life is ruined. What a sad situation all around.
This is exactly what I commented!
The judge knows the son didn't kill his father. The son had to much going for him.
💯
TAKE AWAY THEIR JUDGE AND LAWYER LICENSE FOR SENTENCING YEARS IN JAIL TO A INNOCENT PERSON..
What are you talking about?
The mother 100% did it and manipulated her son to take the fall. What an absolutely terrible human being Jean Tan is.
I would NEVER let my son take the fall for me…if anything it would be the other way around.
He didn’t take the fall.
Most mothers will do the right, the selfish mum let her son take her fall!
A real mother will never let her kid to take the fall. Jean is a coward.
Sounds like mom Jean was tired to be a punching ball.... and just 4 clarification: I believe the mom (Jean) killed her abusive husband, by accident/in self-defense or intentionally. And possibly understandable. What I find absolutely despicable and UNACCEPTABLE: to ruin her kid's life by manipulating or even forcing him to take the blame for HER crime! 🤬 I really hope Karma has her number (for doing that).
Punching bag.
Gullable
@@ivang9885 Not sure what or who you are teferring to with "gullable"...? The mom? The son? L.E.? Me (my comment)?
@@connywolfram8305 you
@@connywolfram8305 yeah, you
What type of mother puts her son under the bus. This is gross
Children can be loyal to a fault to their parents, Charlie Tan was being railroaded by his Mom
😮SMDH 😢
Common sense points to the Mom, hands down, she did what other people don't do, sit in an interrogation room and NOT talk but they might have planned this together 🤨
A Chinese mother, trust me !!!
@mpmartin1588 .......what is that suppose to mean?
I'm pretty sure it was the son's idea to all this. He had it all calculated and he knew he could get away with a mistrial. Remember, he's part of the fraternity at Cornell, a place with no shortage of legal experts. Heck, I think even the judge was playing a role in his favorite.
@@mpmartin1588it’s nothing unusual for some mothers to lean on their son as their man! You see it time and time again with young males working trying to pay bills while momma lays at home….
The bada$s judge did a Mic drop and went against everyone and threw out his murder charge as his last action as judge. So the prosecutor went ahead and braught weapons charges against the son that would put him in prison for 15 yrs. Its disgusting. Just for a conviction. This poor kid was trying to protect his mother, his father had tried to kill his mother several times and was abusive all around. A true scumbag and our system did nothing to stop him but prosecute the upstanding citizen son. He was in college making something of himself and was literally known to be the sweetest guy in town, helped charities, helped anyone he could. I hate our justice system! With dv, they make people have to take it into their own hands
Correct, ppl say it’s 20 years. I feel sorry for Charlie for being embroiled in all this. His life is ruined.
someone was murdered.
He doesn't have the complexion for the protection. 🤷🏾♀️
@@ABC-ed8cg20 years for weapon charges? That’s a long time!
@@rbebeabucay9356 State prison, paroled in 7 years.
Boys love their mom. This is a big part of why I left my abuser when having my kid. I knew that I wouldn't want to put him in a situation to either be killed or kill trying to protect me.
This is an example of women not taking the right decisions for their own being that ends up entangling their children to their own marital problems!!
A woman. Don't even try it. 🙄
"Searching for teen marriages" How was that supposed to go down if he was already married? What a nonce and predator.
Polygyny is a thing. If a man has money, a man has moves.
But this isn't polygamy, he's a pervert. She's 15 years old.
Justice is not served by imprisoning an innocent person. She has a right to defend herself. This is just reprehensible
so when is the police department going to be held accountable? clearly domestic violence in the household and all they did was give her a card?
But he's still serving a 20 yr sentence for unlawful purchase of a weapon used in his father's homicide. He didn't get off like many think.
The prosecutor felt their strongest case was to charge the son with murder. She meant that they had more chance of winning the case against the son, not that he was the more guilty party. They just wanted to win.
Google Sandra Doorly
At 15 Beth CAN NOT GO WILLINGLY. She’s a minor and can’t consent. He’s a predator, abused hie trusted position and should be in prison for life. I don’t care if it was
a “relationship “. She’s a KID. I feel for that wife.
It’s never a relationship when the kid can’t consent, just abuse
She may not LEGALLY have the right to 'consent' but at 15 and 'in love' she might go willingly. This does NOT let HIM off the hook, he's old enough to know better
Exactly. He’s a predator and the school was complacent. The wife AND the girls family should sue the school!!
@@jillp3761 I know what you mean. We’ve all been a teen thinking we were in love. At that age it’s a powerful emotion. But I also remember when I was 15, I’d fall out of “love” just as fast. It’s so insidious to go after minors. It floors me people seem to forget what they were like as a teen. We all thought we knew what we wanted at 15, and by 18 we’re completely different people.
Are they still on the run???
This case baffles me. So who shot the father? If Charlie, did not then why did he feel the need to cover up for his mother. She's obviously a domestic violence victim & the jury would have looked kindly on her. Charlier defence team should have showed evidence of years of physical abuse by his father towards his mother. It just seem so wrong that Charlie was eventually sentenced to 20yrs in jail in his re-trial.
She said “he is already dead” knowing that the call was made days after the husband was unalive then clarified her statement on the 911 call…”he is already dead”.
The evidence proves that the wife shot the husband in self defense.
It is possible..
Sandra Doorly is NOT above the law!
I thought I recognized her! And you’re right! What she did irritates me to the core!
What happened
@@dayoungstunnaa24 search her name on TH-cam and prepare to be appalled by her behavior upon attempting to pull her over
@@dayoungstunnaa24 she running her mouth on a cop. look it up
@@dayoungstunnaa24she tried to harass a cop for pulling her over
the district sure did tolerate the behavior! they knew and failed to fire him-twice!
It's obvious!!.....Alec Baldwin did it!!!!
Clap for yourself
I blame Will Smith for everything wrong with the world !!!!!!
@@extendedplay8830 "Well, slap my face and call me silly!!"
No ..the gun did it !
You should not play with death.
The man was already dead before Charlie came home, what’s up with that?
Domestic violence really screws up everyone.
my theory is that he bought the gun for his mother for her protection, and he is also taking the rap for her. him saying “i had to do it, he was going to kill my mother” was in reference to purchasing the shotgun
20 yrs is too much , for a first time pow pow charge 🙄. They could've given him probation. 😢
@cocoace7587
They’re charging him with other things on the pretext of gun possession. 20 years is almost a manslaughter charge. I feel sorry for Charlie..
Your explanation is logical. That’s why he wrote that email to his college brothers not to believe what they will hear.
Your explanation is logical. That’s why he wrote that email to his college brothers not to believe what they will hear.
Judging by the comments, nobody understands coercive control.
She clearly did it
she can do anything she wants, but ultimately letting the son take the fall is the biggest crime she had done. Throwing away her own son's future for some comfort at home and pocket full of cash? She don't deserved to be call his mum.
@ivydickson7596 - 💯👍🏽
Did everyone forget that there had been a long standing history of domestic violence in the house where the wife showed signs of injury including the fact that the police had been called to the house over a dozen times over the years and just weeks before the murder, the wife called 911 AGAIN and she was clearly terrified but the husband took the phone away. Can't everyone see that the wife was afraid to press charges for fear of her life? It was just a matter of time that he would have killed her. Whether she killed him or the son killed him was eliminating the threat.
You know the mum could have gotten a lesser punishment since shes got years of evidence of domestic violence, but to throw the son under the bus is simply beyond words.
She could have left him and got a freaking job .
We need to create more laws to protect women. The Abused have to deal with a psychopath at home and the police can do nothing??? We need to allow automatic orders of protection.
And these prosecutors want to push and trial him again.. hope they should look into the main reason as it's a self defense..
She and her son are both adults. They could have just left the residence and start fresh by WORKING instead of unaliving a person.
I think it was the mom. She’d rather have him dead rather than go through a divorce and used her child as a scapegoat
The police did nothing to help that woman. Multiple calls. She was too afraid to run because she had no where to go. This is failed system. The husband should of got arrested for attempted murder. The police blew it off and gave the wife a card for domestic violence. She knew that she had no help. Pathetic
Then what made her run when he was tried. Her behavior showed she's guilty
@@fk5371 she has always been weak, whatever happened. Who knows.
Once the police showed up, the mother wouldn't sign off on a formal criminal complaint. In that situation, the cops' hands were tied.
This is crazy! Domestic violence is the only crime in which the victim could call the police while it’s happening, the perpetrator could tell the cops not to bother, and the cops tell the victim she should try something else if it happens again.
Charlie should be released his dad was a monster, I cannot believe he is still in jail ....His dad was beating his mum BAD that is not cool, if you have ever been involved in dv you would do what you can when your life feels like its in danger . This dad was beating the mum really bad . That poor son and mother did what they had to be free
He’s in prison?
She is a selfish murder. There is no proof she was abused. She let her son take the blame she obviously not a good person. Woman lie. She had enough time to prove her allegations. She was probably seeing someone and her boyfriend did it. Then she manipulated her son. Everything that can be proven says the mother was a monster.
@@ryansantos6785 yall say anything to discredit a woman who was abused. Men do everything except reflect and accept the monsters they are. The son had a choice and he should be held equally accountable for his part in it to as unfortunate as it is.
The case was dismissed. How could he still be in prison?
@@ryansantos6785no proof doesn't mean that abuse did not occur
I literally don't understand some of these lawyers. Yes its their job to fight for the deceased murdered person, BUT WHY on earth would you even go through the hassle of trying to appeal if you knew that dead man was morally effed up person with dozens of physical abuse police visits/calls.
These lawyers MUST be smart enough to know what emotional abuse causes someone especially a child growing up. Not excusing this son for killing anyone, but sometimes people indeed just snap when they reach their breaking point. And he's not a cold blooded murder going out on a spree nor killed his dad for no reason or a paycheck...rather his MOTHER was being physically abused and he couldn't stand it. The first trial let him off...so let it go!
What's there to understand? This son and his mother are responsible for killing the father.
If things were that bad the mother could have left.
When the father was murdered he was working, not assaulting the mother.
If I was the judge or on a jury they would have each gotten at least 20 or 30 years.
I wouldn't be surprised if the father was cheating and the mother did not another woman to benefit after all the years she'd put in.
if you have to constantly argue with your spouse, get a divorce before it boils over
He had nothing to do with the crime, so it is right to dismiss the case.
Why are they so eager to put victims of abuse in jail? Why does the justice system rarely believe a self-defense defense when it comes to abused individuals.. She's a victim. He's an abuser. Case closed. I'm so tired of victims being treated like criminals and being put behind bars for standing up to their abusers/attackers.
❤ 🙏💯
Is there proof of the abuse? Or just calls? One could easily fabricate it, call for abuse, when cops come refuse help and drop the charges, rinse repeat a few times, create a paper trail of fabricated abuse. It would prove beneficial however way it ends, either be divorce or unaliving the rich husband...
I agree however self defense is only considered self-defense in the moment of a violent act or threat of a violent act.
Exactly, this people are heartless
That is why there is tons of women in jail after they stand up to the abuser.
If the mom did do it, then I lost all sympathy for her bc she involved her son. Also, she could have had a fighting chance at self defense. Maybe. Idk. But regardless you don’t involve your kids so I hope she’s telling the truth. But it doesn’t feel like she did tell the truth in my opinion.
even if the son did it she should have taken the blame. why call your son and not 911?!?! and why not file the pfa the cops gave you months ago?
So they let that psycho wife beater go after the cops came out for a domestic dispute. If it was me not being rich I would I've been hauled off to jail immediately I am so sick and tired of all of these double standards
She underestimates the strength of a little woman.
His mom is 100% the killer. She either did it herself and staged the whole thing, or lied to Charlie that his father was gonna do something very dangerous to her.
Happy Father’s Day!
The fathers day upload tho
True Crime messy 😂
Dang . Usually a mother would lie to take up for their son , she was and is very selfish
This should have been prevented by the mother being BOLD ENOUGH to walk away from his ABUSIVE husband. Truly a sad story….
Agree. Mother and Charlie are both adults and could have left the residence and start fresh by finding jobs and working instead of unaliving another human.
That is part of the abusive cycle. Fear paralyzes and obliterates any plan of action
great stuff, she got the property and wealth all for herself, with her husband and son gone now.
The mother didn't have the strength to lift and shoot the shotgun??? Apparently the DA in the murder trial of Charlie Tran, hasn't heard of your nervous system giving someone extra strength and power them through a stressful situation, i.e., an adrenaline rush.
Wife or husband should be financially independent.. If one is abusive... Just leave. go live somewhere else. Then file for divorce... Never be greedy for husband's wealth.
It is not as easy as it seems to leave an abusive situation. The abuser is way too smart to let the victim go that easy. Please don’t blame the victim. - former domestic violence advocate
Young man, please don’t smile when you took someone’s life away
I understand that situation especially when you have an abusive father😢. My mom suffered so much to take care of me until she lost her life at 44
Look it is Sandra Doorley, the above the law DA from Rochester who refused to stop for the traffic cop.
Pity the poor defendants that have to deal with that loud mouth, super entitled witch of a prosecutor.
Oh yeah! I thought that her name sounded familiar! I guess Jean drove her to drive drunk 😂
Good call. Now that u mentioned it, it came back to me when I saw that TH-cam video of Doorley refusing to pull her vehicle over with the cop right on her tail, “lighting her up.” Boy, that incident made her out to look like one condescending, entitled “B-word”, just because she happens to be the DA for Rochester, NY. She of all people should know she’s not “above the law.”
I was really repulsed by the prosecutors. It's their job to ensure justice is seen, not to assume his guilt before it's even been tested in a court of law. They acted like they were upset they couldn't go after him. Didn't respect that.
Damn, she's not right then.
Everything she's ever prosecuted should be thrown out her behavior that day showed how devious she could be and who knows how many innocent people she has in jail.
What kind of human being wants to prosecute a kid for killing a monster?
I'm guessing the male prosecutor is the same kind of monster.
The husband may have been an abusive man towards his wife, but if there is a monster in this story, it’s the mother. She ruined his life in my opinion.
we dont have the right to do that genius. u cant just go on offing people
Such a selfless boy.
Poor Charlie! All American boy who couldn't escape the tentacles of his sicko family traditions. And damn the prosecutors, who couldn't just move on. Nope, when they didn't get a "win" in the murder trial, they hauled him in on gun charges, and now he's serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison. How is that in anyone's best interest?
Correct, the prosecutor just wanted to blame someone to show that they’re so capable of bringing charges. 20 years is akin to a manslaughter charge! There’s not enough evidence to show Charlie pulled the trigger. It’s a tragedy all around. His life is over cos of his mother’s messy relationship with his father. 😭
They went after him for reasons other than justice ...he had it all. They just wanted to crush him... despicable
@@femdivinemind7777 Indeed! It makes me wonder whether that one tenacious prosecutor, who was called out by the judge, beats up his own wife and kids. This story hits hard, because I had a lot of Asian high school students, and I well remember what some of them went through with their immigrant parents when all they wanted to do was be plain old American kids.
I was a domestic violence advocate and hearing that she called 911 several times and the police just leaving a card is baffling to me. They should have connected her to the advocates they have at the police station who could have educated and assisted her with safety protocols and addressed barriers to her leaving the situation. Or connected to community resources like DV nonprofits for long term services. I don’t blame the mom or the son, it’s the law enforcement’s negligence that has caused this tragedy.
12 times. I know! Heart breaks
These people underestimate the strength and power of petite women.
They wouldn't think that ,about a petit black woman
@@purplelove3666 In 2010, Jodi Arias, a petite woman, was convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander. Despite her small stature, she displayed significant strength and determination in committing the crime. Women of all races, even petite ones, possess incredible strength, especially when enraged. Their resilience and fierce determination make them unstoppable.
A woman full of anger can exhibit incredible strength due to the adrenaline surge, which boosts her physical power and sharpens her focus, making her a force to be reckoned with regardless of race.
@@Trainfeastfast read my comment again