My mother asked "Why are you studying fashion?" I told her that most of the places I would apply to for employment want that on your resume. There are three generations of self taught dressmakers in my family and my mother had her own business. I truly think the fashion industry should push for apprenticeships because you learn so much more than a school could ever teach you in the time it takes you to graduate.
I think it's worth going to fashion school if you want to get internships and become an employee designer for a company, especially if you need a good portfolio. If you want to run a business, however, then studying fashion is not important.
Well said. I didnt study, started for myself and am building my company and portfolio. But it does scare me to know i would most likely never be able to intern or get employed at a big fashion company if i ever wanted to because plenty, with degrees, will be before me.
@@marvinsroommate1003 same here. I don’t want to go uni or anything like that. I just wanna have my own brand but I think it’ll be very hard for me in the future without the uni
If you want to learn how to sew: - go to a sewing class, or if you have a relative/friend/neighbour who knows how to sew, ask them to teach you. You can also look at TH-cam tutorials. - buy books on professional sewing techniques - buy a sewing machine ,a hand needle and other sewing equipment. -practice, practice, practice - do not expect fashion schools to teach you! They will only teach you the basics, but how good you are at sewing depends on how much you practice in your own time.
Exactly it’s all about determination and working hard that’s how one will succeed. Some students think it’s this romanticize life but in reality they are like the other bunch… if you want to live the glamour life then work hard for it it will eventually arrive
I guess to a lot of people, getting a degree is just about securing a well-paying career path upon graduation i.e. it's about money. An art/design degree is something you take because you genuinely want to learn stuff and improve yourself in a field that you more or less have a passion in. Yes, a lot of the technical skills and knowledge can be learned outside of school (and going to school would still requires you to self-learn). However, as a designer or artist, getting to know like-minded people like the other students and lecturers helps a lot in broadening your horizons, and it feels a lot better to be going on this journey with others than on your own. Point being, you must have a very clear idea of what you hope to gain and achieve for yourself by the end of an art/design course. You can't have the same mindset as a STEM degree where you're just banking on getting this paper at the end that would land you a good job because of what it inherently means. People who find that they "learned nothing" and wasted their money at the end only have themselves to blame... I mean, a degree isn't cheap; you should have damn well be sure of what you're getting yourself into. One of my classmates like to talk about how the classes don't teach anything useful but they're honestly just full of themselves and think they're already above what was being taught. Worked on a project with them and, gee, their design thinking is abysmal - I can't sugarcoat it. To their credit, they are very proficient other aspects of the craft, but they clearly learned nothing and it's completely on them. I learned a lot.
I am currently studying fashion design after previously studying biomedical sciences, I can see what you mean about the degree not really being worth it when you compare it to a technical degree that will literally put you in a job after you graduate. I thought I needed to study fashion design but since I have been here I have seen that it is just a course to teach you how to conceptualise your ideas and give you different angles for design and creativity. Most of the people on my course still can't sew or draft patterns, the effort goes into concept and design boards. But at the end of the day, as long as they give me the skills to make a killer portfolio and the right people to send it to, I will think it was worth it.
I think fashion school is necessary and also unnecessary, personally i’m in fashion school because i want to learn more about fashion because i’m not around people in the fashion field and fashion school has definitely changed my mindset and i’m glad i got into fashion school. But i think it’s unnecessary sometimes if you want to be a designer because that’s all about your creativity and many big designers did not go to fashion school.
ngl i dont go to school for fashion i just went to a lady's shop (she's a seamstress/designer) and she needed interns and i kinda just became her apprentice for a while and started taking sewing classes. if you dont want to go to fashion school or can't afford it i highly recommend just going to local seamstresses and tailors and asking if they teach sewing or would like an apprentice and you will gain a good foundation rather quickly. use fashion youtube to supplement history and critique courses and make designer friends so they can review your ideas and such.
After finishing fashion school. It's best to start off with start-ups or small businesses. It will be very difficult to aim for a big company right away.
I love these question episodes you do because you share SO MUCH WISDOM that is desperately needed for those starting out in fashion. Also you keep it real - you can't be partying all the time, regardless of whether you're in fashion school or not. Sacrifices have to be made
I think that when one works hard, is passionate and has the right determination to succeed you will end up succeeding. I will study fashion design and it may be scary to think that it can be hard to find employment but if you work hard and don’t take it as a ohh my life is so beautiful then you will end up succeeding. I think that’s the problem with fashion schools art schools… is that people think it is a cruise that you can party every weekend but you will eventually not succeed. If you work hard with enough passion then you will end up succeeding it’s all about the mentality and passion you put into your work and career.
I have been working as a fashion stylist / CD for three years now since i was 18yo after finishing highschool. I never went to fashion school after i got denied at the Amsterdam Fashion Institute. I am glad how it turned out, but i do have to say, it’s nervewrecking to apply for jobs in fashion as i know there are plenty aplicants who did do school and probably are one point ahead of me just because of ‘the paper’. Now working in fashion i might regret not going to university, but as im still building my brand and portfolio, i guess i’ll see in a few years if my regret was justified or that i did achieve everything that somebody with papers couldve achieved.
Hey super late reply but do you have any ideas on how to land a job in fashion without a degree? I have a bachelor in Japanese linguistics but really want to work in fashion
I would love to know more about how you got into fashion. Coming from a Nigerian background myself, I know the whole job security conversations all too well lol
An your last point is so spot on. I'm starting to realise that now lol. Plus I think i really romanticised going to fashion uni for the reasons you said
i would love to go to fashion school but i’m very inexperienced but i have my own sense of style that i get stopped for occasional in my city, would you think i should study more about the history first, learn how to sew & use equipment then if i really want to enroll into fashion school for more exposure?
lol dude, I have seen you say about 10 times you don't need to go to fashion school, then another ten times you said you really should xD BTW, you made a valid point about people just picking to study fashion because its cool or they don't know what to do. I remember the first day of my graphic design degree, I was sat next to this girl so we started talking, and I asked how long she had been using photoshop. She didn't even know what it is lmao. A LOT of people purely picked graphic design because they didn't know what to do at uni. Probably the same with fashion
Im just playing devils advocate haha. I’ve given pros and cons of going to fashion school and in other videos I’ve given pros and cons of not going. Now it’s up to people to take that information and decide what’s most relevant to their personal situation
@@FashionRoadman fair enough, depends the opportunities you get or make. At least if you are self-taught, you can focus on the things you need to, rather then spending a long time on stuff other people in your class may struggle with. The internet these days, offers so much scope for learning, that you could probably educate yourself to a very good level if you know what you need to be looking at, but that said, some things are kind of a secret and you only learn from mentoring.
Interesting personally I wouldn't have gotten into the industry without going to fashion college then uni. The connections and courses were super helpful at least initially. I didn't apply to St Martin's but remember them harping on about how much they focus on pattern making when I went on the tour. I originally went for fashion design, the journalism then moved to PR. Now I work in a completely different industry 🙈 but I still use the skills and connections to this day
okay wait Saul Nash is doing craaaaazy work all around as a newcomer and innovating what a show or presentation is especially for what his clothes are representing. then you have Iris Van Herpen that has been innovating a level of textiles and fabrics for years!!! there are definitely designers innovating right now
What’s your advice if you want to become a fashion influencer that goes to shows and get dressed by brands? What would be the path to take to get there as a influencer? To be taken more seriously? Can smaller influencer have those same or similar opportunities? Is it just down to having millions of followers?
....i really wonder why people are so ambivalent about going to school....tailoring is so very important....learning about the construction of a garment....fine technique....handwork....beading....etc....and history and subtext....pattern cutting....just...WHY NOT....the rigor....the discipline....the focus....GO GET IT....
I sort of agree with the unique fashion point. While I think thinking that you’re the only person who where’s minimal clothes or specific brand is dumb I think selling out and just going into trends wildly and just throwing clothes on that don’t even look good in is just dumb.
I’ve been working in retail for like 4 years for brands: Z&V, Reiss etc. and although I love fashion, retail is not for me 🤣 I’m thinking I’ve going back to school for fashion marketing or something
My mother asked "Why are you studying fashion?" I told her that most of the places I would apply to for employment want that on your resume. There are three generations of self taught dressmakers in my family and my mother had her own business. I truly think the fashion industry should push for apprenticeships because you learn so much more than a school could ever teach you in the time it takes you to graduate.
Which after an associates degree, I left design school.
A LOT of brands have pushed for apprenticeships.
I think it's worth going to fashion school if you want to get internships and become an employee designer for a company, especially if you need a good portfolio. If you want to run a business, however, then studying fashion is not important.
Well said. I didnt study, started for myself and am building my company and portfolio. But it does scare me to know i would most likely never be able to intern or get employed at a big fashion company if i ever wanted to because plenty, with degrees, will be before me.
@@marvinsroommate1003 same here. I don’t want to go uni or anything like that. I just wanna have my own brand but I think it’ll be very hard for me in the future without the uni
If you want to learn how to sew:
- go to a sewing class, or if you have a relative/friend/neighbour who knows how to sew, ask them to teach you. You can also look at TH-cam tutorials.
- buy books on professional sewing techniques
- buy a sewing machine ,a hand needle and other sewing equipment.
-practice, practice, practice
- do not expect fashion schools to teach you! They will only teach you the basics, but how good you are at sewing depends on how much you practice in your own time.
Exactly it’s all about determination and working hard that’s how one will succeed. Some students think it’s this romanticize life but in reality they are like the other bunch… if you want to live the glamour life then work hard for it it will eventually arrive
I guess to a lot of people, getting a degree is just about securing a well-paying career path upon graduation i.e. it's about money. An art/design degree is something you take because you genuinely want to learn stuff and improve yourself in a field that you more or less have a passion in. Yes, a lot of the technical skills and knowledge can be learned outside of school (and going to school would still requires you to self-learn). However, as a designer or artist, getting to know like-minded people like the other students and lecturers helps a lot in broadening your horizons, and it feels a lot better to be going on this journey with others than on your own.
Point being, you must have a very clear idea of what you hope to gain and achieve for yourself by the end of an art/design course. You can't have the same mindset as a STEM degree where you're just banking on getting this paper at the end that would land you a good job because of what it inherently means. People who find that they "learned nothing" and wasted their money at the end only have themselves to blame... I mean, a degree isn't cheap; you should have damn well be sure of what you're getting yourself into.
One of my classmates like to talk about how the classes don't teach anything useful but they're honestly just full of themselves and think they're already above what was being taught. Worked on a project with them and, gee, their design thinking is abysmal - I can't sugarcoat it. To their credit, they are very proficient other aspects of the craft, but they clearly learned nothing and it's completely on them. I learned a lot.
I am currently studying fashion design after previously studying biomedical sciences, I can see what you mean about the degree not really being worth it when you compare it to a technical degree that will literally put you in a job after you graduate.
I thought I needed to study fashion design but since I have been here I have seen that it is just a course to teach you how to conceptualise your ideas and give you different angles for design and creativity. Most of the people on my course still can't sew or draft patterns, the effort goes into concept and design boards.
But at the end of the day, as long as they give me the skills to make a killer portfolio and the right people to send it to, I will think it was worth it.
I think fashion school is necessary and also unnecessary, personally i’m in fashion school because i want to learn more about fashion because i’m not around people in the fashion field and fashion school has definitely changed my mindset and i’m glad i got into fashion school. But i think it’s unnecessary sometimes if you want to be a designer because that’s all about your creativity and many big designers did not go to fashion school.
ngl i dont go to school for fashion i just went to a lady's shop (she's a seamstress/designer) and she needed interns and i kinda just became her apprentice for a while and started taking sewing classes. if you dont want to go to fashion school or can't afford it i highly recommend just going to local seamstresses and tailors and asking if they teach sewing or would like an apprentice and you will gain a good foundation rather quickly. use fashion youtube to supplement history and critique courses and make designer friends so they can review your ideas and such.
Dope idea
After finishing fashion school. It's best to start off with start-ups or small businesses. It will be very difficult to aim for a big company right away.
I love these question episodes you do because you share SO MUCH WISDOM that is desperately needed for those starting out in fashion. Also you keep it real - you can't be partying all the time, regardless of whether you're in fashion school or not. Sacrifices have to be made
I think that when one works hard, is passionate and has the right determination to succeed you will end up succeeding. I will study fashion design and it may be scary to think that it can be hard to find employment but if you work hard and don’t take it as a ohh my life is so beautiful then you will end up succeeding. I think that’s the problem with fashion schools art schools… is that people think it is a cruise that you can party every weekend but you will eventually not succeed. If you work hard with enough passion then you will end up succeeding it’s all about the mentality and passion you put into your work and career.
I have been working as a fashion stylist / CD for three years now since i was 18yo after finishing highschool. I never went to fashion school after i got denied at the Amsterdam Fashion Institute. I am glad how it turned out, but i do have to say, it’s nervewrecking to apply for jobs in fashion as i know there are plenty aplicants who did do school and probably are one point ahead of me just because of ‘the paper’. Now working in fashion i might regret not going to university, but as im still building my brand and portfolio, i guess i’ll see in a few years if my regret was justified or that i did achieve everything that somebody with papers couldve achieved.
Hey super late reply but do you have any ideas on how to land a job in fashion without a degree? I have a bachelor in Japanese linguistics but really want to work in fashion
I would love to know more about how you got into fashion. Coming from a Nigerian background myself, I know the whole job security conversations all too well lol
An your last point is so spot on. I'm starting to realise that now lol. Plus I think i really romanticised going to fashion uni for the reasons you said
please make the copying vs referencing video
100% Agree that you don’t need to go to fashion school.
You should definitely make a copy vs reference
Thank you so much for this video!!!
i would love to go to fashion school but i’m very inexperienced but i have my own sense of style that i get stopped for occasional in my city, would you think i should study more about the history first, learn how to sew & use equipment then if i really want to enroll into fashion school for more exposure?
yes because in learning those things and gaining experience you'll become clearer in what you want to learn in fashion school
lol dude, I have seen you say about 10 times you don't need to go to fashion school, then another ten times you said you really should xD
BTW, you made a valid point about people just picking to study fashion because its cool or they don't know what to do. I remember the first day of my graphic design degree, I was sat next to this girl so we started talking, and I asked how long she had been using photoshop. She didn't even know what it is lmao. A LOT of people purely picked graphic design because they didn't know what to do at uni. Probably the same with fashion
Im just playing devils advocate haha. I’ve given pros and cons of going to fashion school and in other videos I’ve given pros and cons of not going. Now it’s up to people to take that information and decide what’s most relevant to their personal situation
@@FashionRoadman fair enough, depends the opportunities you get or make. At least if you are self-taught, you can focus on the things you need to, rather then spending a long time on stuff other people in your class may struggle with.
The internet these days, offers so much scope for learning, that you could probably educate yourself to a very good level if you know what you need to be looking at, but that said, some things are kind of a secret and you only learn from mentoring.
Interesting personally I wouldn't have gotten into the industry without going to fashion college then uni. The connections and courses were super helpful at least initially. I didn't apply to St Martin's but remember them harping on about how much they focus on pattern making when I went on the tour. I originally went for fashion design, the journalism then moved to PR. Now I work in a completely different industry 🙈 but I still use the skills and connections to this day
okay wait Saul Nash is doing craaaaazy work all around as a newcomer and innovating what a show or presentation is especially for what his clothes are representing. then you have Iris Van Herpen that has been innovating a level of textiles and fabrics for years!!! there are definitely designers innovating right now
Your telfar top!!!!!!
What’s your advice if you want to become a fashion influencer that goes to shows and get dressed by brands? What would be the path to take to get there as a influencer? To be taken more seriously? Can smaller influencer have those same or similar opportunities? Is it just down to having millions of followers?
I wanna go to community College my first 3 years then transfer to FIT or parsons and get my fashion degree
Exactly what I’m thinking lol
love your vid! your eyes are pretty red. hope you sleep well!
....i really wonder why people are so ambivalent about going to school....tailoring is so very important....learning about the construction of a garment....fine technique....handwork....beading....etc....and history and subtext....pattern cutting....just...WHY NOT....the rigor....the discipline....the focus....GO GET IT....
I sort of agree with the unique fashion point. While I think thinking that you’re the only person who where’s minimal clothes or specific brand is dumb I think selling out and just going into trends wildly and just throwing clothes on that don’t even look good in is just dumb.
I’ve been working in retail for like 4 years for brands: Z&V, Reiss etc. and although I love fashion, retail is not for me 🤣 I’m thinking I’ve going back to school for fashion marketing or something
What is fashion communication about?
Can you react to a 90’s MTV House of style episode? (You can find some here on youtube) i think it would be fun!