How Battletech (2018) Should have Ended (Why Tex shouldn't write video games)
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"How could this be a black op? All those ships are painted white!" - Darius, probably
"Boss, I think we're being boarded!" -Darius, as we're both being hauled off by Comstar Customer Service Representatives
@@dustinstewart8435 "SHUT UP DARIUS!!!" The entire crew as they're about to be gunned down by a Comstar Customer Service Firing Squad.
@@CommisarHood
Comstar doesn't have firing squads, they're Customer Service Support Representatives from the Department of Life Guidiance, part of Psychopomp LLC, a Comstar Subsidiary.
@@ianlarson9743 Ah of course forgive me I've been out in the periphery for so long I'm not up to speed on the latest Comstar... terminology.
To be fair, a ComStar-centred BattleTech game would be amazing.
Oh yes, yes it would be
You could even have the player be the underdog realistically by having them be a Comguard during the Jolly Roger Affair.
Do the C* v WoB fun time....the internal black ops and the whole FWL arc
We still don't have a Wobbly time game really. You could play as a loyal Comguard unit that eventually becomes a KOTS unit. Could be fun
You could even have a hacking sub game.
Honestly, this explains why Kamea was so eager to just give you the ship
Here, this is YOUR liability now!
This is how easy it is for the whole Aurigan campaign to be cannon but "The Commander" is not. He/She just kind of "missjumped" the day after and was never seen again LOL.
I kinda like the head cannon that Comstar let her have it to keep her deadlocked in her civil war instead of just getting curb stomped.
Honestly I don’t think comstar would bother with the Argo considering it’s just a old civilian exploration ship. They’d probably care a lot more about castle nautilus had kamea’s operation there not been interrupted.
@@leaf0nthewind625 Or y'know, the Dobrev
Because Dr. Murad totally isn't a ComStar agent what with conveniently being able to override top of the line SLDF security forces at a Castle Brian in a matter of minutes and all that.
I mean that makes sense that as long as the Argo stays in a Merc outfit's hands it's still a factor Comstar can handle, with Dr. Murad sticking around to blow the ship if anyone not Comstar makes a good play at taking the ship over.
Even mentioned in the game , thankfully Dr.Murad had some "hacking skills" all Comstar are technicals. You can not find a Comstar who do not have technical knowledge.
Now be honest Murad represents 'diversity' and therefore chould solo all of comstar. ;)
And upgrade a ship full of SLDF technology that no one alive knows how it even operates.
@@Heldermaior sldf tech that's been turned into a pirates rats nest. Even with the functional tech the Argo is still a noncombatant. The only thing of real value, other than the dropship hull and databank, is the machine shop and that is still not outright superior to manufacturer grade equipment. Yes it can build certain mech parts but it can only provide enough for its complement. Convenient but not a game changer. It's very plausible that Farrah is rom agent or is taking orders from rom. It's alot easier to have someone to secure the datastore and send it to them. If was the commander and caught her, I would just ask "is what your doing going to keep the heat off us?" If she says yes I'd just say "good, I don't need more trouble."
On a serious note, personally I buy the theory that the chief engineer was a Comstar plant...
She sure did know all the right things to do to save that ships bacon over and over again. That kind of knowledge would be rare indeed and we ALL know how Comstar loves people having that kind of knowledge while not being in their control.
I've heard a few things that point to her being ROM. Currently trying to pin down whether that's a canon source.
I suspect Yang's on their payroll as well. He was the one who was responsible for destroying the Outpost Castle.
@Ahry Mahry
"Oh look an intemidating 'rival'"
Misses AC20 on her goon
Blasts the rival in the head by accident
Honestly that game has me deliberately trying to miss shots because the amount of times i take a "fuck it" shot against a light or medium mech with a lot behind it and I kill by accident is rather disturbing. Got 3 free Atlas parts with one of those accidental headshots
@@commisaryarreck3974 I feel that. Last time I played, I shot four medium lasers at a locust, missed, took both arms off the Panther behind it instead.
"Customer Service Submission Position"
The clans learned this was just bending over and facing away.
You have to touch your toes as well, otherwise you won't quite get the full benefit of the rough, unlubed, AT&T pole treatment.
Comstar: Where Customer _Satisfaction_ is Guaranteed.
@@The_Crimson_Fucker A reminder, increasingly telecom and IT services don't consider you their customer. They consider you their product. Their customers are the people they are selling your information to or being paid to funnel your attention towards.
@@privacyfirst2790 Don't you threaten me with a good time!
Bend over and grab your ankles. Thinking happy thoughts is not mandatory but it is recomended.
As an ending for Battletech, that'd be genuinely scary and imply sequel material is on the way. It's not bad!
It certainly allows the game to keep your character's legacy, while wipe the slate clean of all your goodies so they can start the game without you bringing over your entire arsenal.
@@Voitan That's a thoughtful point: the character got so good, they were taken out by COMSTAR.
@@Voitan In Canon home boy did the whole campaign in a fucking BLACKJACK
I genuinely think them setting up shop in this small kingdom, building it up and leading it to never seen levels of prosperity and then having comstar slowly and indirectly at first and then bluntly starting teaching these hicks why you should fear the phone company would be a great sequel. Hell throw some word of Blake folk in somehow to justify them not getting wiped out to begin with or to explain why it took comstar so long to show up or something.
It'd be a good opener for the next game, similar to Mass Effect 2
"your systems have not shut down due to star league over ride codes, but rather because you have hit your monthly data cap"
I imagine it would just be a tragedy if SOMEHOW the ONLY COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY/ MULTINATIONAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTION would just happen to have lost your billing info. even if paying that bill is just them garnishing you wages, hell, garnishing the country you live in’s national budget.
Yup, total coincidence you were cheesing off the Blakists at the time.
@@Canoby what does cheesing of the blackest mean my dude
@@chuckbuck5002 Not "blackest", "Blakists". As in followers of the Word of Blake*
*Comstar
@@chuckbuck5002 somebody needs a hug and to go READ the history of the 'battletech universe'....
I was wondering why Comstar wasn't confiscating my kneecaps at the latest when we discovered that old Star league fortress and looted some SLDF mechs.
There is a theory that lady Arano died in the crash and who we are helping is a comstar agent. We do maintain the balance if power of the sphere and periphery while also keeping a castle Brian out of turian hands. Add that to the large amount of mechs that we amass that will probably get sent off to fight the clans in a couple of years.
I'm guessing it is because the argo is not a warship, and therefore does not pose a threat or warrant an balance of power. Any power that got their hands on it would just have a really nice transport with an advanced mechbay. Considering the SLDF mechs and gear would not really mean much either in the grand scheme of things.
@@Paul-cu9lu I think that's the take I've heard from the people who wrote it.
That and some form of "it's not like it's canon".
@@kereminde it sort of is, they made a technical readout for house Arano and a sheet for the Argo. It is noted in the sheet that the ship only had one other of it's kind made and that it was a colony ship.
I think the Devs said that the ship's chief engineer was ROM, so you were being guided from the start.
“But my Comstar manual is a cloud stored PDF! How can I find page 438 if my cons are jam-“
“Clear. Next room.”
Fuck, I laughed again.
this seems worryingly plausible
This is 100% what would happen, except they'd be 100% less polite and subtle I reckon.
For some reason I keep hearing GLaDOS telling me to assume the party escort submission position, there was a promise of cake, but there was no cake...
@@davidmeigs2152 Space Wizard Beer Cake!
Worryingly plausible, yet undoubtedly deniable.
this is what the real world is like today with slight exaggerations
"not a warship"
Of course not, it's a peaceship! Peace through superior firepower is a proven concept.
"B-but... this is the Periphery!"
"I'm sorry. But you still need to pay your bills."
Needs more "fucko" in there. In general "fucko" needs to be a more common word
@@Canoby
You are not wrong, fucko.
Periphery just means you have to pay a 50% long-distance surcharge.
Well you have to be in clan space in order to get some independent communication services...
OR well scrounge up few K-series transmitters from Davions, Steiners or Kuritans...
“Customer Service Commando Team” - Please make this canon!
It is now.
i think it is.
I always did wonder about this part of the game. Like in the game universe where motherfuckers are willing to risk entire lances for LosTech caches, I always kind of felt like it was a huge oversight that nobody was really trying to hijack your giant ship made entirely out of LosTech. Your company is basically flying around getting shot at for chump change when in reality you’re piloting something worth enough C-Bills for your full roster to retire five times over.
Also the part where you find a huge stockpile of Lostech mechs. And you find it 5 minutes before enemies also find it. Then blow it up.
Moronic. You knew other people were after it. Why wouldn't you unload every available mech and defend the place? Why wouldn't you have brought defense turrets? Wouldn't you have, knowing what you were about to find, brought a small army of mechwarriors who could ride more of those mechs out of there and do battle?
@@DGneoseeker1 I think the idea was that it would be too conspicuous. The plan was for them not to know about the hangar. Bringing more guys would alert them to your presence. If Kamea had known the Taurians were going to go for it she probably would’ve brought more.
In reality it’s just because the game wanted to let you play with the Lostech without making a really clunky section where you have to command 50 mechs.
@@suspiciouscheese4518 But then the bastards took it away! And gave me ONE MECH. I wanted the Atlas MK2.
@@DGneoseeker1 You have to understand it's basically just a retreading of Grey Death Legion finding the Helm SLDF depot.
They had to hold out against an entire FWL regiment while surrounded by enough lostech to equip several regiments, none of which they brought enough pilots or technicians to pilot or restore them to battle condition in time.
In the end, they also blew it up by removing the base memory core and setting the reactor to blow.
To add onto this in lore the Argo was nothing more than a deep space exploratory prototype vessel it posses quite literally nothing advanced in terms of combat it’s pretty much worthless to comstar and just another ship for pirate gangs
Didnt comstar purposefully delete a significant number of systems from public starmaps to hide old SLDF outposts? The Argo very explicitly has completely intact and unaltered starmaps (which is how you find castle nautilus), and im pretty sure that alone would force comstar to act. Also housing a literal SLDF AI thats strongly implied to have some idea of where the exodus fleet went would probably attract all sorts of fun attention from pretty much every intelligence service in the inner sphere (notably comstar and wolfs dragoons)
Ngl I could see the situation backfiring horribly as the one of the main reasons the Crusader Clans got the upper hand was because a Comstar exploration ship found them.
So instead of a clan invasion a couple of decades after the Helm Memory Core is found, its the clan invasion but the Inner Sphere is royally fucked.
Just send them a revenge basket, they won't see it coming.
Wait, crap, I forgot it's Comstar!
They've invented that
@@TheOneHoddToward I think their patented version is the Super Black Honestly It's Not A Scorpion Revenge Basket. They haven't used a plain old revenge basket since those days back in the 28th century when they executed a hostile take over on Comcast.
They'll just send it back to you as undeliverable. Surprise!
I thought the same thing - let alone my mech bay packed full of advanced Star League designs
Seriously, this should be an ending option if you have your hold full of Star League tech by the end of the campaign. It would be a gut punch like the ending of Mass Effect 3, but with a LOT more humor involved.
@@Charistoph If mech jocks on Solaris 7 could get away with lostech Riflemen, some bangers in the Periphery can get away with a LosTech mech or two...
@@EgorKaskader, one or two, sure, but if your hold is full of it? That's a different story, especially to those Blakist fanatical types who would kick off a Jihad.
@@Charistoph Don't think I've had a hold-full of lostech mechs in a career, much less a campaign.The most I've had would be a pair of BSK-MAZ, a MAD-2R that I bought on the black market, and an Atlas-2 I shot a head off of with said MAD-2R. It's, in the grand scheme of things, utterly insignificant, especially compared to what Wolf Dragoon't hauled in.
@@EgorKaskader, and then there are the mods, remember? In a way, it would be like deliberately cheesing the game, somehow, to get it (without mods), so as a "reward", you get visited by a hostile Stellar Ma Bell. A nice wonderful, "Thank you for cheating", ending built in.
I'm a little bummed you didn't use the old At&t hold music. You know, the violin concerto played over a phone line so it sounded like a dial-up modem reenacting seventeen cats in a crate falling down a flight of stairs? That was that good stuff.
Honestly Dr Murad is a ROM agent.
Leads everyone to a hidden Star League base, reminds you why Star League AI drones are nasty and Yang to gleefully blow up and bury that Castle.
Release a forbidden computer virus and tells you it is perfectly safe just by putting it in a drive in your ship.
And the HM campaign about Wolves and ahem Wolverines, she was the person in charge! Not Darius.
Still everyone else is a Comstar patsy. Like how the heck Arano survive going nuclear in a drop ship with nary a scar on her face and having a crush on the Star League (a Periphery nation loving Star League?!) to the point of fetishism...And Yang just keeps wanting to steal SLDF tech like the SLDF Griffin flashpoint or burying those tech he cannot take under tons of explosives. While Darius tries to get you killed every time. "Enemy reinforcements!" Well no shit sherlock I am already engaging them 5 minutes ago.
Too bad the player char is immortal and they just resign themselves to keep him busy.
Word of God is *somebody* on the crew is a Comstar mole, and yeah, she's a likely candidate.
What if the character was a ComStar agent who made themselves immortal through some LosTech handwavery and is only participating in the civil war to maintain the balance of power in the periphery?
@@derkylos Well that is kind of a stretch. Frederick Steiner aka Focht was 79 by 3050.
He would only passed away after the Jihad in 3081 thus closing his chapter (he partly caused the schism after all).
That would have made him 110 years old. And this is a man who was of wealthy Steiner noble birth and the Big Boss (eye patch) of the Comstar in his later years.
But even then with all their technology, they can't make him live forever :P
@@csnation Maybe it wasn't life extention, just immunity to being smooshed in combat?
Yang also set the charges in the Outpost Brian, enough to not just disable the mechs but to take out the whole complex, memory core and all.
May the Blessed Word of Blake ensure clear reception.
Peace of Blake upon thee, brother
@@TheOneHoddToward And my the Nuclear Urbie bless you.
Comstar/WoB should have had a special shipping deal. You want to travel to system_B. You pay a fee to Comstar or WoB (Protectorate), they send a HPG message to System_B, which then crunches Pirate Point coordinates (or even has constant updates). System_B sends back some pirate point coordinates along with the time frames they are good for. So instead of spending ~10 days transiting from the jump point ~10 AU out from the star, you are ~1 AU from the planet and spend ~2 days transiting.
Imagine the trade potential of such a grid. No more waiting ~20 days for stuff to arrive, you can now get it within a week
@@toddkes5890 How did you fare against 1st Rashalhague bears and Guisburg eagles during the second round of Tukayyed? :D
I like the joke, it is hilarious and plausible, but how the game handles it is equally plausible too so it works IMO.
Sure it is Star League Era, but it is civilian in nature (designed for expeditionary work) with no KF Drive and no weapons of its own. It is a flying office building with two drop ship docking collars. Even then, that isn't really an advantage when it takes two Jump ship collars.
Overall I could see Comstar keeping an eye on them, but not directly intervening. I don't think they would risk revealing they have a navy in 3025 for a civilian drop ship with limited military potential.
Except for the part where the ship's computers have mapped out where a number of SLDF bases and infrastructures were, including at LEAST one which was unknown to Comstar. As well as that weapons grade virus.
This is Comstar, they want that sweet sweet data.
@@scottmacgregor3444 That is why I made sure to say Plausible either way lol. That is why I would say regardless Comstar would be keeping an eye on their movements regardless.
@@anthonyspecf Except, why in the world would they let that information run around in the wild, possibly propagating?
As of when the first SLDF base is uncovered, and the virus nearly downs the Argo, what would be a Comstar analyst's evaluation of the risks you think? Remember that the 4 players as of now are the Directoate, Taurians, Restoration, and Canopians.
No, you have no understanding of Comstar. If it's Star League tech, they will jump and spend any cost to get that tech. Comstar is so paranoid that they even false flagged attack Davion for using Black Boxes against Liao. Comstar does not fuck around.
@@scottmacgregor3444 they could have sold that data after capitalizing on it to comstar for stupid levels of cbills and they could either sell the specs of the ship or started making new versions of the ship for equally stupid amounts of money.
Space AT&T... always pay your bills and run away screaming when you stumble upon Lostech.
"Lostech? Nope, never seen it, never will Precentor."
I still maintain that due to their access to the entirety of the Star League's records and archives on Terra ComStar was always aware of what and where the Argo was and straight up did not care.
You do seem to assume there's a correlation between "Has access" and "Has time to read enough of..."
Don't forget, Comstar has ALL of the star league's back communications logs. They in theory know where EVERYTHING was that the ministry of communications should have known about. Unfortunately, they have to sift through the 30 trillion terrabytes of transmitted hardcore porn sent by field troopers to get anywhere.
@@Great_Cthulhu What do you mean "Unfortunately" why do you think Comstar has barely any knowledge of certain SLDF things, they never got past the porn.
Ghost Bear Explains the robes. Easy access.
@ majority of that porn they have to sift through is Richard Cameron's personal stash.
@@GhostBear3067 Oh good god, no one should have to witness that!
You thought Kamea was fulfilling her obligations in gifting you all this lostech as compensation for restoring her to the Aurgian throne, she wanted this shit out of system before the ROM recovery teams came to collect...
"not a warship"
It is a peaceship
@@frking100 Exactly. Why would anyone make war if i means getting your planet glassed?
Weird AT&T send me the exact same message yesterday when i found an unused fibre cable while digging through my backyard
Reminds me of a time when a gas company cut a 64 gauge fiber line, in two parts 100 or so meters from each other. (They literally didn't call before they dug). They paid a fine, and the overtime to fix it. The fines alone were five figures, per cut. Oh, and the guys doing the repairs were all unionized.
On the other hand, depending on how classified whatever it is, it may not even appear on local utility plats, as one construction company I heard about found out.
I think my favorite part of this joke is they don't even wait to complete their half-baked legalese laden announcement of their intent to steal the ship. The just send the commandos in and then start describing the various ways this is not illegal in ways that are most certainly not suspiciously specific to a crew that can't even hear them because they are too busy definitely not being murdered by customer service commandos that certainly do not exist.
Fact:Comstar started the clan invasion.
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Technically - no.
@@BIGESTblade No they did. Not only did comstar mistakenly spark the invasion they also SUPPORTED IT!
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Key word "mistakenly" Comstar had absolutely no idea they are going to bump into SLDF descendants hiding out behind a nebula where nobody ever been before. They also had no idea that clanners are going to take that as a sign of imminent invasion from Inner Sphere. Comstar didn't want any of it and they sacrificed almost everything they had to stop it. For once, Comstar is a hero.
@@BIGESTblade No comstar helped the clans with their invasion... look up who Fotch had to kill after or before the battle of tukayyid and also did you forget who told COmstar the clans wanted terra?
I wish this didnt feel so deeply familiar after trying to deal with my local telecom.
"Please assume the Customer Service Submission Position." Ha!
Fuck I laughed.
Yeah, I would agree but by the time comstar, would have noticed the restored argo the helm memory would have hit the inter sphere. The game starts in 3025 and by the time you retake the reach its 3029 ish. Plus you have the dragoons running around and that would explain the lore, but I would have liked a few missions like the end of mw5 though
Well not even that, but the Argo is just a fancy exploration dropship, it's really nothing special enough to justify going after as hard as this, otherwise they'd be going crazy after every Behemoth class dropship out there.
Hell the Argo is a peacetime exploration vessel, it doesn't even have weapons, it's not something that Comstar would care much about cause it can't destabilize an area on its own.
I honestly thought the people that restored the ship for you are comstar
@@nicholasvogel9783 Nah, Arab chick did it if I remember right, I legit don't know cause I haven't played Vanilla Battletech since a month or so after launch, I much prefer Roguetech and it doesn't have the early game missions or any of the story really, you just start with the Argo.
Eh, Comstar had better things to do than show their hand. After all, they didn't whip out the warships after their Marik catspaws failed to stop the Helm core. ...and in the DLC you DO fight Natty K and just make things a nightmare for the Dragoons' Black Widow Company
The end of MW:5 was a joke. If Comstar got wind of a Star League castle like that, they would have sent REGIMENTS out to secure that. Not 4 mechs at a time in a wave. Hell, that whole story line was weak and a basic copy/paste of the Grey Death Legion story with minor changes. It was so disappointing how little effort was put into the campaign by PGI.
*sees Tex video notification on BT ending* “Comstar is gonna push their shit in right? Yup, Comstar is currently pushing their shit in.”
This brings up a valid point. Why had no one in the game commented or even questioned my possession of a treasure trove of Lostech?
Mainly because nobody knew what it was
During the Jolly Roger affair pirates showed up with dropships, mechs, and bases on "lost" periphery worlds complete with support equipment and logistics help from Comstar. It caused problems, but the inner sphere (mostly) put it down as pirates finding a cache. Lostech wasn't as rare as some people make it out to be. It was out there, but mostly horded since they couldn't replace it. Random components and even mechs could show up from time to time. Helm was a big deal because it had the information to rebuild the tech base to start producing Star League era tech again.
Hueh. Watching this, remembering the stirring, emotionally moving* cutscene from the game ("man, that Leopard pilot is _no joke_ managing to dodge all that holyshit levels of space debris from the Argo launch. Not bad for what amounts to the BattleMech version of a Space Winnebago") and counting down. "3...2...1...aaaaaand Tirpitz'd. Yeup. That's about how that'd go if crazy pseudoreligious pre-Focht ComStar caught any damn wind of this nonsense." Ah well. The game was still pretty excellent, even if I'm sitting here halfway through thinking "this is an absolute _smegload_ of BattleMechs for the Periphery. And man, a Periphery penny-packet nation would be doing AWESOME if "poor repair" just meant the machine wasn't fully armored despite being in otherwise perfect working order."
Eh, it's just a tub in space so long as they make sure the computer core doesn't have any secrets on how to build the good shit.
I mean the "there are more than enough mechs in the periphery for an unending supply of rock em sock em robots encounters" is more just to keep the gameplay going.
Still wish infantry could show up in a sequel tho. A man can dream
I mean this is a option.
However what if it serves the interests of Comstar to "let" some previously broken dropship, like the Argo, be found and used in a far away localized conflict?
It could be possible that the Arano Restoration serves Comstar in some way. That allowing a Merc company working for Lady Arano to use the ship could be a way of effecting the outcome of the war without even having to supply weapons in any trackable channel.
That after the Restoration is complete, Comstar could then schedule the Argo to have a "unforseen critical drive malfunction" and thus take it off the board once again now that the Argo is not needed.
I'm just throwing ideas out here, I don't know much about Battletech lore. I just think there is more alternatives to the "Argo problem" for Comstar than just black ops seizure and or it's immediate destruction.
Sometimes it could be useful for a organization like Comstar to let a new player appear on the field to mess with the established interests of a part of the inner sphere or periphery.
They don't need to solve the "Argo Problem" until it's a problem which threatens anything ComStar actually wants to happen. Like if the crew were to, oh... interfere in the Fourth Succession War more than just in the 'Aurigan Reach'. The ship is not armed, and most of the tech is impressive but without the knowledge to create more it's not a game changer.
Now, if that weird hard drive of extra data wasn't completely unusable, there'd be a reason to take the whole ship out in a terrible misjump accident.
@@kereminde I was kind of thinking that too. The Argo is a mobile staging platform but is basically a unarmed Barge with a cool rotating habitation module. It's not high up on the list of things that must be kept hidden. That said it's still a ship which is something impressive.
So Tex is right that Comstar could want to capture or destroy the Argo BUT it isn't necessarily true that they would do so as it may or may not be worth it.
The only danger the posed would be if its databanks had a memory core, and ROM agents likely took care of that in secret, no need to risk a warship. Allegedly someone on the staff said the cheif engineer herself was ROM. (Though playing it fast and loose with that virus.)
@@DIEGhostfish The 'allegedly' bothers me, because I don't recall that being stated amidst the Q&As. I recall some jokes, but the general thrust was: "If ComStar came down like a hundred-ton hammer, you wouldn't have a game."
@@DIEGhostfish It's more likely ROM agents wiped the core while it was still in pirate hands.
"Tex Shouldn't Write Video Games"?
Why? He's fucking right.
Fucking precisely
I still maintain that due to their access to the entirety of the Star League's records and archives on Terra ComStar was always aware of what and where the Argo was and straight up did not care.
@@GhostBear3067 Sure, they might not care when it was a wreck, but when some no-name schmucks manage to get it flying again? There's no way Comstar would risk the chance that there might be info in the navicomp that could lead to a cache or something similar. They'd waste the mercs in a heartbeat.
But how did the Crescent Hawks get away with that SLDF Memory Core and LAM?
A friend of mine suspects that many of the events of Battletech 2018 were arranged by Comstar. That Kamea didn't survive destruction of her dropship in the prologue and the one you meet later is a double working in the service of ComStar interests in the periphery.
In this version of events, your mercenary company is basically being allowed to keep the fancy drop ship cuz ComStar actually has you on a good leash. The powerful have been known to throw a bone to useful assets after all. Especially one that hits that sweet spot of capable + deniable + not so capable as to be dangerous to the hand that feeds them.
That would have been a hilarious first game only Easter Egg. Tex should absolutely write video games, he just needs a second pair of eyes for after the realism part is done....I recommend someone reliable like discount Dan.
Welcome to discount Dan's Largely Legitimate Lot of affordably repossessed parts and possessions, now featuring "luxury" space "liners"... because there's just nothing s luxury like being able to glass the planets of your choosing, and still have the troop-lift capacity to mop up after.
Discount dan's mech part emporium, now with 50% less nuclear fallout.
Man i wish this was how it went. Followed up with a short 'actualy you work for us now, we need more influence in the prephery. Here' s a nice insurance nuke tied to your reactor so you Do as we say'
Argo: Holds 18 Mechs, can only drop 4 Mechs via separate drop ship and is Unarmed. Overlord: Holds 36 Mechs, can drop ALL 36 Mechs by its self, is armoured and Armed to the teeth, so much so that it can easliy take on a Lance of Mechs by its self!
And ComStar thinks the Argo is a threat to the stablity of the Inner Sphere?!
I mean it has 2 docking collars in theory you carry a 2nd drop ship with it so it takes up 3 collars on a Jumpship, I doubt there are many drop ships bigger than a Leopard can make use of the Argo's collars though. The Argo is a cool novelty a mobile raiding platform at best. If ComStar wanted it for any reason it would be to track down the SLDF Exiles as it makes a nice exploration base,
Yeah, the Argo is pretty worthless in the grand scheme of things but people focus on it as if ComStar would chase down anybody with a gauss rifle or a SLDF standard issue space toaster.
@@EvillBob ComStar doesn’t care that much about LostTech existing they care about people trying to remake it
Remember that virus you got from the Star League automated defenses?
@@Dumorimasoddaa Or if the Argo has additional files deep in its computers that could simulate part of the Helm Memory Core. Just a quick check-up by the Comstar insurance company to make sure nothing strange is in your computers, and you can be on your way. (Comstar then proceeds to scan the copy to make sure there is nothing strange)
I'd like to see a modern battletech game where you get to participate in events like the tirpitz as comstar doing shady stuff
Wasn't Comstar playing whack-a-mole with the Helm Memory Core around this time? Not to mention, the Taurians have a WarShip (of sorts...) Seems like a dropship with no real lostech on board just wouldn't be that big on their radar, would it?
Except for an entire battalion of battlemechs fit with UAC , TAG, ECM, ERL, ERPPC, ACX, NARC and GAUSS.
And beating up every comstar reinforcements on every mission since they couldn't track your movements
You say "never trust a cappellan" and that's true, but I don't even run double heatsinks, because holy shit comstar is somehow *EVEN LESS* trustworthy.
Comstar? Nah.
"We've been trying to reach you about your extended warranty..."
While this is hysterical, they wouldn't need to go to all that trouble. They already run the MRB, so already have pretty much every merc in the IS by the balls, AND always know exactly where they are and what they're up to at any given moment.
I dunno maybe Tex should just show up at PGI's door, and when they open it to see who is there he might say, "Okay - I'm writing Mechwarrior 6. I'll need a tent and some Scotch. You're welcome."
This feels like it would fit better in MW5. I don't remember fighting comstar in battletech but they are the actual enemy in MW5
It’s remotely possible to fight them. A few worlds have ComStar Presence, some missions have a chance for an additional OpFor to drop in, or it’s a joint operation against multiple opposing lances with allied lances. On ComStar Presence worlds, the additional enemy lances can be ComStar. They’re white painted ComGuard. All the ones I downed were boring Inner Sphere mechs with no LosTech. Boo.
The plausible deniability customer service commando is every customer service rep's dream job.
Right?
Right? Or at least dream feature.
Because Comstar is totally omnipotent, omniscient, and never screws up. (/sarcasm)
Besides all the times they screw up.
Yup. And that's exactly why Tex shouldn't write video games.
Correction: Why Tex *should* write Battletech video games.
Funny thought, If you take the opposite pill in "Path of Neo" the game rolls to credits. Found that out during a drunken replay.
Comstar probably wouldn't bother with a non-warship until the Castle Brian/Virus thing. THEN they'd abduct everyone involved.
Then the House Lords would of been in a very bad position as Comstar would most likely have no issue using it on anyone who pissed them off.
They were banking on the Concordat to solve that problem for them and for intents it was working. Give Ostegaard some time and a paid for funeral service and the problem solved itself
Zero views, 5 likes, 10 comments - great work, YT, great work
LMAO
There are times when I wish I could instruct customers to take the 'customer service submission position". God I hate dealing with the public at times.
That's why I quit tech support and customer service and currently work as a correctional officer.
Tex is right though, in no iteration of the battletech universe during that time period would comstar have let the merc company keep an SLDF era ship. The mechs are possible, SLDF era mechs DID exist in merc units of the time they were just extremely rare, very difficult to maintain, and horrendously expensive to repair. But SLDF era mechs while scarce were still floating around so to speak. The ship though? No way.
The perfect setup for the sequel.
And the perfect reason why U have to start from over even with an imported crew.
Imagine having to fight against your own mechs ... the emotional payoff ...
This reaally makes me want to start my own mercenary unit in Battle tech. And call them the Trust busters.
Tex if you don't mind my asking are you interested in covering the word of Blake? Such a perfect example of Monopoly and fanaticism.
The music is "Epic Voyage" by Dream Cave.
Yang to Bridge, we have a boarding party trying to come through the repair bays. Don't worry, I'm in the Grasshopper you got on that last mission and I have them pinned down with all the small lasers you had me install for your crazy "jump and punch" build. Dekker is in the Hunchback, but the only gun that's working is the AC20. He wants to "open the docking collar" and let in a little sunshine.
Yang. My mech is not working. The override codes has reached the mech and being forced open! Oh god they are breaching the repair ba...
*Ratatat*
Clear.
It is not a warship, it identifies as a anti-pirate ship...
that was just converted from a warship so it doesn't count
Just because it has a Compact Jump Drive and massive gun batteries does not make it a Warship, because those went extinct in the Houses centuries before.
This is distinctly classified as an archeological reclamation vessel in the aggressive class.
as long as it didnt identify as a deer im fine
I wish it would identify as an original joke
I Fracking luv this so Go-Ram much Chummer, keep up the good work o7
Sumire does warn you about them, after all.
Sumire also crashlands on the battlemechs
Sumire is probably a Comstar agent herself.
"Ok, lets see here....what do i have in storige.....hmmmm 8 atlas II, 12 Atlas ,12 king crabs, 8 battlemaster sldf royal division versions, same with the Highlanders and got 6 of those, 5 Black knights sldf v.... 6 marauder sldf v...4 bullsharks, and 4 advance Bullsharks of unknown design....screw that, transfer all C-Bills to my secrete acount..and" *punches in a keycode* ...and set off 4 nukes, Guys!! We are leaving on the Lepoard!!!
Secret account? You do know what the C in C-bill stands for right?
Comstar
I would not be surprised if Comstar tipped off Kamea's faction to the Argo location. Probably knew it was there, wrote it off as not worth there time but figured it could be useful to keep shit fucked in the periphery.
ComGuards only started becoming viable in 3039. Before that Comstar only used mercs as enforcers and the ComGuards were just glorified mall cops guarding their HPG stations. I mean, as late as 3029 they were just punching bags for everyone from pirates to NAIS cadets. Focht was the one who built them up into the Clan-beating force of 3050. Also, Comstar wasn't able to reactivate the WarShips until after the Helm Memory Core was retrieved. They had WarShips in storage and had repaired most of them, but the knowledge of how to operate them was lost after the partial disbandment of the Guards following the assassination of Hollings York. Helm allowed them to reactivate the WarShips starting from 3040 under the final expansion initiated under the command of Anastasius Focht.
They still would have sent ROM after us, just like they did Grayson Carlisle.
@@acnine-ball8976 Grayson had way more relevant information and was balls-deep in Sphere intrigue. The Argo was stuck on a moon in the backwaterest of backwaters.
The only reason this didn't happen is because House Arano is actually a ComStar front. There are several telltale signs.
First, ComStar doesn't just show up and take all their lostech.
Second, how else could a periphery state controlling a moderate number of systems pop up out of nowhere, with no previous historical references, and everyone just pretends like it was always there and accepts it without comment?
Third, Kamea SOMEHOW keeps sending public addresses to all the people under her uncle's rule.
Last, Kamea - COM-ay-uh. They're not even trying to hide it.
Thank you for choosing ComStar...
your ONLY choice
Its an overlord with a grav-deck and a couple extra docking collars whoopdy-doo.
Honestly it's an armed civilian exploration ship for colonizing new worlds it's of little military value and unlikely to shift any balance of power on it's own.
I still like the idea they just had enough ROM agents in the crew to make sure the computers were clean.
I enjoy all of The Black Pants Legion videos
Given the Arano Restoration's infinitely deep pockets, I think we know who ComStar were backing.
LOL!!! Love the disclaimers.
I bet ComStar remembered to bring a full platoon of marines. Only a fool would try to seize a drop ship with only two squads of marines.
It would be really silly if you spent a boatload of money to recover ancient LosTech only to risk the entire operation cutting costs by sending only half a platoon. That would be really silly...
...Nobody would ever do something THAT silly, right Dr. Murad?
Well done sir!
Space AT&T: “That’s my Argo now, PUNK!”
Possession of SLDF command overrides is ten tenths of the law.
Who else has ever dealt with a cell phone company’s ‘customer’ service department and DOESN’T think ComStar would absolutely pull this?
Anybody? Bueller?...Bueller? Yeah, me neither.
Im the words of a great man..."Pay your fucking bills!!"
Man, if only they hadn't gotten uppity tried to take over the entire inner sphere while fighting the largest mech battle ever and then entered a downward spiral that had its peak with the jihad and ended with the RoS wiping them out. Anyway 3rd SSW- war of 3039 is peak comstar we should go back to that.
Customer service submission XD YES. Of course Tex could write amazing game story, but he already IS writing everything we see on the channel so all that remains is to enjoy. If one day he writes a game it will be glorious.
Ayup. When I played that game I kept expecting an "inner-sphere intelligence agency is hijacking your ship" special event that never came, but Comstar would probably beat them to the punch.
PA: Hello this is Comstar.
Everyone on board the Argo: Oh shit...
we need HBS BT2 , in Taskforce Serpent or Operation Bulldog.
i would Like it very much when MW5 and BT step together in the next Era of Battletech
"please assume the customer service submission position" magnificent writing
Wow this is concerning. This uh... could totally happen.
That is freaking great! Assume the Position!
I know I shouldn't, but this just makes me wonder where CS got a clan refit Mckenna in 3020-something.
They had one, they did have the Blakes Sword which was formerly the Zughoffer Weir, which was the Wolverine Flagship. How they found it is unknown but apparently they found her in 3061 or beforehand in a heavily damaged state.
@@sharlin648 Answering you seriously (though this was a joke, admittedly);
The game takes place decades before op. revival so there's no real way for CS to have gotten ahold of one. Add to this that CS never operated any Mckennas - though as you said WoB did find one much later - as well as any Wolverine ship more than likely not having a full clan refit since they were annihilated only a few years after op. klondike.
Aye :) But ComStar/Word did have a McKenna, its more a case of when they found her. The ships the former Wolverines flagship, so we can assume its something to do with the Minnesota Tribe. Its more a case of when ComStar found the ship, and when they made her operational. According to fluff a badly damaged McKenna was repaired at Titan in 3061, so that would be the Blake's Sword, but ComStar could have been sitting on her for decades :) Either way I think Tex used the ship because this version of its in colour and 3D and its just an awesome take on the McKenna :)
CS =/= WoB, at least post-schism. The canon source that mentions Blake's sword includes a note by the then CS precentor-ROM about not knowing where the vessel came from - so either Fochtstar was randomly lying about their warship fleet long after such things would be relevant, or they didn't find it. Regarding the whole Minnesota tribe 'the blood' thing, up to you whether you take it as fact, it's even written in the book that features it that it may or may not be the insane ramblings of someone addicted to deception.
@@basicfailure101 I do like the fact that The Blood/Wolveries is one of those tantalising threads, really wherever they are and what happened to them, best of luck to the Wolverines, the only ones who had the guts to stand up to Speshul K's ravings.
I don't understand why space AT&T, when Comcast is a much closer name..
Something you never want to hear: "Hello, this is Comstar!"
Clearly this is the more accurate ending of Battletech 2018. Though the whole campaign for the game was poorly written and stupid to the point were I just wished I could join the other side. Thank god they introduced a career mode
LOL!! This is so true! Comstar would be WELL AWARE of any warships and would most certainly continue to keep them out of anyone's hands as they have continued to do.
But it's not a warship, it's a mostly unarmed cargo ship/exploration vessel.
Bold of Comstar to assume the old computer systems were operational let alone be able to run the original operating system.
Goddamnit, ComStar
"Thank you for choosing ComStar, we understand you have no choice in interstellar communications- and we like it that way."
BB !
they could have made so many quality BattleTech games like 2018. right off the top of my head and if I were in charge I would have set the first one during the Amaris Civil War. the second one set in the inner sphere going through the secession Wars and various conflicts. the third focused on the Clans from Exodus to return.
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We also accept donations of:
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Guys, if ComStar owns near limitless power and knows all about this, and by all rights should and would have taken it away from you, then there is only one simple explanation for why they haven’t. It’s the same reason why Mason-Jr isn’t dead in MW5.
ComStar wants you to have it.
@@zacharyclapp1072 He given the core the Interstellar Expeditions so the ball is IE's court and yes they did follow up by telling him they will serve as Draconis Combine cannon fodder for Yamata's death
1:54 - Lol - Customer Service Submission Position - Comstar Operation: Position held by GlaDOS.
I never did understand Tex's problem with this ship. It's not a warship, jumpship or even a dropship. It's just a mobile space station, it shouldn't present any danger, or even worry ComStar in anyway.
The truth is that you are secretly clans who has declared war against all houses and comstar ended the invasion before it started.
This way comstar can still claim that you haven't paid your bill since you need the logistics to reach the core
@@robertagren9360 As far as I'm aware ComStar didn't do anything when Wolf's Dragoons showed up with a bunch of old SLDF mechs so why would they bother with the Argo?