Her parents are to blame, the mother making excuses for the drunk father and leaving the hives to Tess who did her best. Her mother is to blame for pimping her out to rich relatives without warning her of the wiles of men. Alec is to blame for taking her innocence when he was worldly enough to know how it would ruin her life. Angel is to blame for not telling his story until after the wedding but faulting her for not telling him before. He is at fault for expecting forgiveness for 48 hours of voluntary debauchery but not forgiving her for 15 minutes of involuntary and confused abuse. She bore the babe then was demeaned by her father, already guilty for his part in starting the downhill destruction of Tess, when she was crushed by her dying babe. No comfort from her mother. Everyone is guilty but Tess but she has to bear all the guilt. She blames herself. Angel was worst because he had the wisdom to see his sin was far worse and her small sin of not fighting off Alec, not that she was able, because she was unsure of what to do. Her goal was always to do the right and moral thing. Then Angel didn't return as he promised, didn't answer her letters and Alec selfishly manipulated her with lies leaving her in the chasm between. And in the end she receives the ultimate punishment for killing Alec, accepting and paying for everyone's sin and blame. Now we are in a period of a few women speaking up about sexual abuse from men who, like Alec, felt entitled to use women. That is good but millions more need to speak up and don't because men still feel entitled to use women's bodies to pleasure their own. Is this natural for our species?
The book implies that she had become Alec's mistress after he took advantage of her in the woods, and this lasted several weeks before she decided to return home.
Thank you for this. As a survivor of repeated sexual violence, I felt seen today. Especially in light of the Atlanta murders of Asian American women this last week (I identify as Asian American), I couldn't help but see the 15-year-old me being the "temptation" that the sheriff said the killer had to eliminate. Rape culture, misogyny, and patriarchy (and in this case the oversexualization of Asian women) is still very much alive and well.
I prefer the 2008 version, i think Gemma captures a more fiery nature in Tess than the 1998 version. I love how we really get the sense of strength and passion within Tess. i think without this Tess would have fallen apart. But i just wished she didn't have to die. i think she is one of the best heroines in literature!!!
I hate Angel Clare; often he seems worse than Alec for hurting Tess so badly and being such a moralising bastard. She's ovvie better than both these men put together and I love that Hardy knows this
Hardy literally made her go back to Angel Clare and kill Alec purely out of love for angel. I'm surprised you say this when in the book she literally acted the opposite and pursue Angel till the end
The thing is with this scene there is so much emotion revealing itself which is what this version lacks imo. The 1998 portrays the scene how I had imagined it when reading the novel.
i will never understand why she just does not say "im his creature but if you love me still I will leave with you" and then gee i dont know just walk out of the house? But then it would not be this wonderful sad romatic story that it is....so there you have it. I really like this version - but I also love the 1998 version - they both have good and bad points - so I watch them both :D
She is supposed to be more in a trance. She's definitely not "hypnotized-seeming". Justine Waddell communicated her hypnotized look and actions far more accurately.
I think both Gemma and Justine are great actresses! But I think Justine acts the Tess I know from Hardy better than Gemma. This scene should be a very intense moment, feelings that can't be expressed, that need to be surpressed. But it's not really Gemma's fault that this scene is cut so short and with those cheesy words, she played the Tess as it was written in the script and does that very well. Blame the script! Though I think she couldn't have played the other Version, that needed Justine!
Gemma is wonderful here, but the dialogue is too different from the book - "I'm already dead", "Goodbye my love" never passed Tess's lips in the book or in the other two film versions. This scene was cut short, and Eddie Redmayne just stood there looking dumbfounded - it really feels like Gemma did most of the work - and I didn't buy the romance between Tess and Angel in this one.
@SassoonOwen I wholeheartedly agree. Especially in this scene, Justine did a tremendous job. Gemma was good, but her Tess is more of a naive and docile country girl and somehow just ends up being a martyr. Justine's on the other hand is a victim, but she never plays the martyr card. She's spirited and has character, and is not so easily submitted. One pities her but at the same time admiring her, if that makes any sense.
@FloralSilk I agree, Alec is indeed a piece of crap, but from what i gathered in the book she went back because Alec used her family against her and made her feel guilty, and as if it was her only choice to go back to him so that he would take care of her family who she felt responsible for :( it truly is a tragedy
@Liana10091989 i prefer this one better. i like how the ticking of the clock stands out at the start and black suits her better i think than the white it the other version...but that my own personal opinion
Honestly, I think it's because she knew he would never leave her alone. She was his creature as she coined herself! Such a sad fate for such a innocent and beautiful character!
@@lusinemanukian2567no she has no reason to kill him at all. she can just run away and live somewhere else without murdering someone that literally help her family. I feel like if you read the book you would be a lot more sympathetic towards Alec.
@taty1719 I disagree. The 2008 version of this scene was better. this scene was a little too calm. She says "I hate him" the same way she says the rest fo the lines. To me the 98 version, the actors seem like they are acting like the characters, where in the 2008 version the actors are living the lives of the characters, they became them. The 98 version makes me feel like I'm watching a play
I really liked this version, but this scene simply didn't have the power and dynamic of the 1998 version. I don't know, I think the acting was a bit bland, there simply wasn't enough emotion. But other than that, I really liked this version like I said.
I have watched every version of this and the only one that captures Tess is Nastassia Kinski. Even when she has " been round the block a few times" she still looks innocent whereas Gemma Arterton always sounds like she has been round the block a few times already. Too modern, too experienced, too 21st century. Kinski is straight out of Dorset circa 18 hundred whatever and never loses that naivete.
@@therealvampirella02 Nastassia Kinski acted more naturally as a young girl, I thought. But Gemma has much more the look of Tess as described in the book - she has the fuller lips, nicer shaped mouth and thicker hair, for example.
See, what happened is terrible, everybody knows but if you think carefully, she was better with Alec, he was her first and only, he fell in love with her, he apologized.....just saying she would have been happier than with her childish husband if she has become Alec's wife intead of a mistress
@Liana10091989 Nope. The 2008 version of this scene was better. In the 98 version this scene was a little too calm. She says "I hate him" the same way she says the rest fo the lines. To me the 98 version, the actors seem like they are acting like the characters, where in the 2008 version the actors are living the lives of the characters, they became them. The 98 version makes me feel like I'm watching a play
Angel was two faced, vain and shallow . I dont approve of rape but at least Alec really did care and love her . In one version i saw he asked Tess to marry him and was so upset to hear about his baby . He would have raised their baby and cared for Tess , unlike Angel .
Her expression is frozen in her. It's been repressed in this simple woman who doesn't know how the world works. If she was expressive the whole story would be different. She would fight back and rebel. But she accepts because of her mental simplicity and morals.
Her parents are to blame, the mother making excuses for the drunk father and leaving the hives to Tess who did her best. Her mother is to blame for pimping her out to rich relatives without warning her of the wiles of men. Alec is to blame for taking her innocence when he was worldly enough to know how it would ruin her life. Angel is to blame for not telling his story until after the wedding but faulting her for not telling him before. He is at fault for expecting forgiveness for 48 hours of voluntary debauchery but not forgiving her for 15 minutes of involuntary and confused abuse. She bore the babe then was demeaned by her father, already guilty for his part in starting the downhill destruction of Tess, when she was crushed by her dying babe. No comfort from her mother. Everyone is guilty but Tess but she has to bear all the guilt. She blames herself. Angel was worst because he had the wisdom to see his sin was far worse and her small sin of not fighting off Alec, not that she was able, because she was unsure of what to do. Her goal was always to do the right and moral thing. Then Angel didn't return as he promised, didn't answer her letters and Alec selfishly manipulated her with lies leaving her in the chasm between. And in the end she receives the ultimate punishment for killing Alec, accepting and paying for everyone's sin and blame.
Now we are in a period of a few women speaking up about sexual abuse from men who, like Alec, felt entitled to use women. That is good but millions more need to speak up and don't because men still feel entitled to use women's bodies to pleasure their own. Is this natural for our species?
I so agree with you .
The book implies that she had become Alec's mistress after he took advantage of her in the woods, and this lasted several weeks before she decided to return home.
You articulated this wonderfully and I am so glad you commented this. I’m in awe of this comment
Thank you for this. As a survivor of repeated sexual violence, I felt seen today. Especially in light of the Atlanta murders of Asian American women this last week (I identify as Asian American), I couldn't help but see the 15-year-old me being the "temptation" that the sheriff said the killer had to eliminate. Rape culture, misogyny, and patriarchy (and in this case the oversexualization of Asian women) is still very much alive and well.
You know what? There's too many people to blame at Tess's misfortunes. Tess is more sinned, my heart aches at her tragic fate.
Gemma Arterton has given full justice to the character of Tess!
She looked as charming and as innocent as Tess💜🌸
Love Gemma
I prefer the 2008 version, i think Gemma captures a more fiery nature in Tess than the 1998 version. I love how we really get the sense of strength and passion within Tess. i think without this Tess would have fallen apart. But i just wished she didn't have to die. i think she is one of the best heroines in literature!!!
I hate Angel Clare; often he seems worse than Alec for hurting Tess so badly and being such a moralising bastard. She's ovvie better than both these men put together and I love that Hardy knows this
Great comment. Agree.
Hardy literally made her go back to Angel Clare and kill Alec purely out of love for angel. I'm surprised you say this when in the book she literally acted the opposite and pursue Angel till the end
Even Eddie and Gemma who played Angel & Tess thought Angel was a much bigger prick than Alec
Actors in this movie literally lived the life of the characters.
Gemma is love personified! So sweet, so charming!🌸
I cried so badly during this scene..
What a jerk Alec is! Angel shall have stayed and control himself, then Tess won't need to kill Alec. But the tragic was Alec's fault. Poor Tess.
Angel has no real moral courage in spite of his "religious " beliefs.....far easier to submit to prevailing social norms.
Angel and Alex are two cheeks of the same arse. Poor Tess!
Argh! I'm a sucker for stuff like this :( forever puts tears in my eyes. I prefer this newer version of Tess better than the old one though.
The thing is with this scene there is so much emotion revealing itself which is what this version lacks imo. The 1998 portrays the scene how I had imagined it when reading the novel.
That clock ticking I'n the background says it all 😥
Yes!🌹
i will never understand why she just does not say "im his creature but if you love me still I will leave with you" and then gee i dont know just walk out of the house? But then it would not be this wonderful sad romatic story that it is....so there you have it. I really like this version - but I also love the 1998 version - they both have good and bad points - so I watch them both :D
gemma is a fantastic actress she looks fantastic and beautiful in this role!!!!! Angel is so cute!!!
She is supposed to be more in a trance. She's definitely not "hypnotized-seeming". Justine Waddell communicated her hypnotized look and actions far more accurately.
I think both Gemma and Justine are great actresses! But I think Justine acts the Tess I know from Hardy better than Gemma. This scene should be a very intense moment, feelings that can't be expressed, that need to be surpressed. But it's not really Gemma's fault that this scene is cut so short and with those cheesy words, she played the Tess as it was written in the script and does that very well. Blame the script! Though I think she couldn't have played the other Version, that needed Justine!
Tess from Hardy is really annoying tbh.
Gemma is wonderful here, but the dialogue is too different from the book - "I'm already dead", "Goodbye my love" never passed Tess's lips in the book or in the other two film versions. This scene was cut short, and Eddie Redmayne just stood there looking dumbfounded - it really feels like Gemma did most of the work - and I didn't buy the romance between Tess and Angel in this one.
so beautiful i love this version but the 1998 one with justine waddell my favourite i like her a lot better as tess
Angel never has understood how all betweeen them is impossible.
why do you say that?
My heart bleeds for Tess
beautiful and broken.
@SassoonOwen I wholeheartedly agree. Especially in this scene, Justine did a tremendous job. Gemma was good, but her Tess is more of a naive and docile country girl and somehow just ends up being a martyr. Justine's on the other hand is a victim, but she never plays the martyr card. She's spirited and has character, and is not so easily submitted. One pities her but at the same time admiring her, if that makes any sense.
Am I the only one that likes the newer version of the scene more?
Oh, my God, this scene is so sad...:(
thank you so much please upload more tess and angel scenes
@FloralSilk I agree, Alec is indeed a piece of crap, but from what i gathered in the book she went back because Alec used her family against her and made her feel guilty, and as if it was her only choice to go back to him so that he would take care of her family who she felt responsible for :(
it truly is a tragedy
I'm already dead😔
This and far from the maddening crowd crying so sad
This is a Very SAD SCENE I WANT TO CRY :{
@Liana10091989 i prefer this one better. i like how the ticking of the clock stands out at the start and black suits her better i think than the white it the other version...but that my own personal opinion
nope. i love this version its got more feeling, the characters in the 1998 were a little cardboard. but I like both versions
Miniserie exacta como en la novela. Gran tragedia la de Tess.
She could just be away from Alec, why she must kill him? He didn't deserve it.
He was a rapist
Honestly, I think it's because she knew he would never leave her alone. She was his creature as she coined herself! Such a sad fate for such a innocent and beautiful character!
@@lusinemanukian2567no she has no reason to kill him at all. she can just run away and live somewhere else without murdering someone that literally help her family.
I feel like if you read the book you would be a lot more sympathetic towards Alec.
@taty1719 I disagree. The 2008 version of this scene was better. this scene was a little too calm. She says "I hate him" the same way she says the rest fo the lines. To me the 98 version, the actors seem like they are acting like the characters, where in the 2008 version the actors are living the lives of the characters, they became them. The 98 version makes me feel like I'm watching a play
I really liked this version, but this scene simply didn't have the power and dynamic of the 1998 version. I don't know, I think the acting was a bit bland, there simply wasn't enough emotion. But other than that, I really liked this version like I said.
THANKS!!! Although this scene makes you want to die, it's my favorite one.
I much prefer the other version.
💔💔💔💔💔
@Liana10091989 No, I agree with you. Justine Waddell is far too reminiscent of a psychotic Joan Crawford in the '98 version.
I have watched every version of this and the only one that captures Tess is Nastassia Kinski. Even when she has " been round the block a few times" she still looks innocent whereas Gemma Arterton always sounds like she has been round the block a few times already. Too modern, too experienced, too 21st century. Kinski is straight out of Dorset circa 18 hundred whatever and never loses that naivete.
So not true. Gemma was amazing as Tess. I have never seen anyone look and behave so innocently.
@@therealvampirella02 Nastassia Kinski acted more naturally as a young girl, I thought. But Gemma has much more the look of Tess as described in the book - she has the fuller lips, nicer shaped mouth and thicker hair, for example.
@@jobrock1079 Nastassia Kinski is the perfect Tess for me
bah! i like the 1998 version better.....
Yes! you are right ....
lol, sorry the 1988 version is so much better
See, what happened is terrible, everybody knows but if you think carefully, she was better with Alec, he was her first and only, he fell in love with her, he apologized.....just saying she would have been happier than with her childish husband if she has become Alec's wife intead of a mistress
He stole from her family but and he assaulted her
@@dreamsteddybearsmaster whatever, he was the best option for her AND YOU KNOW IT
@Liana10091989 Nope. The 2008 version of this scene was better. In the 98 version this scene was a little too calm. She says "I hate him" the same way she says the rest fo the lines. To me the 98 version, the actors seem like they are acting like the characters, where in the 2008 version the actors are living the lives of the characters, they became them. The 98 version makes me feel like I'm watching a play
Angel was two faced, vain and shallow . I dont approve of rape but at least Alec really did care and love her . In one version i saw he asked Tess to marry him and was so upset to hear about his baby . He would have raised their baby and cared for Tess , unlike Angel .
What song is this?
The female actor hasn't been successful in capturing the poignancy of the situation/ story...a seemingly inauthentic version of Hardy's great classic
Her expression is frozen in her. It's been repressed in this simple woman who doesn't know how the world works. If she was expressive the whole story would be different. She would fight back and rebel. But she accepts because of her mental simplicity and morals.
The casting of this version didn’t work for me. There was no chemistry b/t these two actors.
This is horrible compared to the 1998 version.
Oh I hate Angel so much...