Cabinet Refinishing/Painting using Renner 643/851 2k poly
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- Cabinet Refinishing using the Renner 851 and 643 2k Poly
This is a great system for those looking to transition into water based industrial wood coatings and move away from solvent. Available in clear and white!
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Leaning allot from your videos. Thankyou. You the man
Great video, I am going to be doing my kitchen cabinets with this combo. I ordered from MK and also spoke to them. when I ordered online on their site they gave me the YC-M404 Catalyst. is there a difference from what you used? I spoke to tech he said I could do min 5% max 10%. I figured on going with 8%. he also said do 2K 1st coat 643 and 1K 2nd and both coats 851 in 2K using a X5 airless with FFLP 308 tip.
The catalysts will be fine. I would do 6%
Everything else sounds spot on!
Louis, the majority of the cabinets I refinish with pre-cat lacquer are oak. I almost always have to use grain filler. Can I eliminate this step with Renner product.? I hear you can build more without cracking issues. Thanks for the videos. Very helpful.
Hey Tony, you can use the 643 primer to help fill the oak grain. Im not going to say its not labor intensive but definitely a safe finishing schedule on oak
Great video!
Looking to spray my kitchen cabinets .Firstly does pre painted cabinets need to be primed or would two top coats suffice amd also can a finish of this standard be achieved with a diy sprayer ?
Great video. Applying 643 with Hardener now. Is the Hardener also used with topcoat or is catalyst different product?
If I have half a quart paint left in my HVLP, can I pour the remaining paint back into the gallon can and seal it for use the next time a customer want that color? is the 851 1K or the 1245 2K better for being reused?
Nice work!!! By adding the catalyst, how did you clean your gun? Wondering if I should trust it on my 440i airless if clean up is just water or should I use this on my gravity feed hvlp gun?
Water clean up. I follow up with acetone for good measure with 2k products
I had the same question - does it gum up the sprayer? I have not used catalyst before and was wondering how fast I have to spray to make sure I leave enough time to flush my system with water.
Great video. How long are you waiting in between coats?
30-45 minutes. Its hot in Texas lol
Thanks for the video. What gun/ spray system are you using?
Thanks for watching! This is the Apollo Precision 5
Www.jassosales.com/hvlp
How is the tannin blocking on the 643? I recently used a Benjamin Moore cabinet paint on oaks cabinets. After 3 coats of primer and 2 coats of Acrylic Urathane paint, and I still have a lot of bleed through on some doors.
Am wondering if you have a preference of 2 coats primer/1 topcoat or vice versa. Love your videos!
"Prime it twice, make it look nice" -
As @shane woods would say. I am good with one topcoat of 2k unless its a dark color
Two coats primar and two coats of top coats is the best result.
Louis I need your professional advice. Do you think 851 will bond to oil base without primer
No way
Hey man. I’ve really been enjoying your videos. Thanks for sharing. I’m curious..do you offer any training or courses? I’m in the Houston. Would love to learn more about those renner products. Any advice?
He has a course coming up in houston on the 15th and 16th of January. Last I knew earlier in the week, there were only a few spots left.
How much are you thinning the 643 / 851 for the HVLP? Thank you for the video!
I typically spray unreduced. I am using a 5 stage turbine with 1.5 needle/nozzle
@@finefinishsupply thank you! I look forward to trying this out.
Do you think you could get by with a 4-stage turbine? Maybe with a little reduction?
@@donbushek I tried shooting Renner 1245 1k with my 4 stage Fuji and Apollo 7700 with a 1.5 and had amazing results.
Antonio Ottaviano Thank you! Your response made my day. Did you need to reduce the 1245? I don’t know much about the various Renner products yet. Can i assume the 1245 would spray like the 643 and 851? In other words are the viscosities similar?
Hello. I refinish cabinet oak doors with 1st 643 coat 8% catalized. A lot of tannin bleeding. What should I do please? Would the 2nd 643 coat cover tannin bleeding? Thanks in advance.
You have to use bin primar this is shellac other way is gonna bleed through
Great video. I feel motivated. Which sheen did you choose for the cabinet door? Keep up the great work. Im now subscribed!
I heard 2k polys are ideal for airless systems. Any word on how this would shoot in a graco magnum 5x with FFLP tips
Some renner paints are designed for high pressure application, like the 740 top coat. Not sure about this one in particular but it seems to lay down nicely. I believe that 743 is the less viscous hvlp version they do. This might be a similar deal.
I'm new in to waterbased laquers and I wonder how hazardous are the ISO hardener and Aziridine crosslinkers when using them in small shop or occupied homes when finishing projects?
Very hazardous. Not worth risking your health for a kitchen cabinet.
What size tip are you using with 851 and 643?
1.3 with bhs aircap
What scale is that? And where can I purchase it?
Hi, have you sprayed the Renner 602 primer out of the precision 5 an if so what size needle an cap did you use?
To bad Renner isn't available in most states. It's hard to trust a product that has to be ordered from out of state. And if you need an additional gallon on the fly it ain't happening
Look for distributor growth soon. We are launching soon and I have dealt with the head of North America distributorship and they are being very aggressive at getting this out. Pumped for this to take off.
Check out the distributor locator.
mailchi.mp/aa843ad03014/north-american-distributors
@@finefinishsupply
Do you know if Renner distributors sell to homeowners, or just cabinet companies? I've tried SW precat lacquer with stain for a kitchen cabinet set I built, it was ok but I'd love to do another with their products. Your vids are very informative, thanks.
Who makes the door stand?
Wurth
Do you have a link or a model #? I'm not finding anything.
How much will I go up on prime for doing glaze
Same
louis Jasso what I was trying to ask you how much should I charge more the costumer for doing glaze
I’m in Jacksonville Florida try to find you product didn’t find it will like
to use it
As a prof. painter, this is ridiculous. I wanted to try this material out in a 4500 sq. ft. job... not going to happen. To bad there are a lot of painters looking for alternatives to the major brands.
thats a lot of cabinets lol