New York will not be saved in it's present globally prominent position, because that will not be cost effective for the corporations and politicians who have the power to protect it. Money rules New York, and profits will determine what is done year by year. Developers will continue to profit from building in threatened areas - and then leave town with their profits when sea level rise floods those areas. Corporations will abandon New York and move to cheaper cities on higher ground when floods make it uneconomical to stay - many have already prepared or are preparing new locations for that future. Politicians know this, and so will not raise corporate taxes to the level needed to fund permanent solutions. Yes, they are taking steps to slow the destruction of New York while New York remains a cash cow for the politically and financially well connected - but they're not going to prevent its eventual downfall, that would cost too much. In a hundred and fifty years it will be a much smaller, much less important city on the high ground currently covered with cemeteries, on high ground in the outer boroughs, and on floating neighborhoods taking advantage of the increased water surface area - but it's former glory days will be just a footnote in history.
I hardly noticed the music. It was relatively moderate. I do wish we could control the music levels on videos though. They should have two audio tracks that we could adjust to our taste. Some music is REALLY obnoxious.
The lowest stations on the London Underground have had huge flood doors for nearly a century, long before the Thames Barrier was more than a school boy project. The Prague Metro has had flood doors on the lowest stations for 20 years. New Yorkers have all the money necessary to jack the entire place up on stilts OR to abandon the lower floors with elevated road running past the 4th floor. With a building 50-80 floors high, who gives a tinker's damn about the bottom 3 floors ? As for building embankments, Hurricane Katrina revealed to us that American's are not very good at that.
Prague's metro was built in the 70s already with flood doors - their secondary purpose was however to serve as seals in the event the metro would be used as shelter for atomic bombings. Because they were never action tested, when the floods of 2002 happened, most failed and the whole endeavor became moot (though even if they didn't fail it would have had the same conclusion, since the Nádraží Holešovice metro was under reconstruction at the time, and was basically a giant open hole, directly next to the river). It is exactly because NYC's metro is so old, that retrofitting is much more complicated - the cut and cover method very close to street level, with ample side-walk grate ventilation makes installing flood gates largely a useless waste.
@@serebii666 Thanks for the reply. Just like the London "Underground", the great majority of which isn't "UNDER" anything, so, the great majority of the New York "Subway" is not "SUB" anything either, in fact, a lot of it is stuck up on stilts. As for Prague, as you wrote, in 2002 most of the so.called protection was useless, and I suggest, was never intended to stop flood water or the entrances would have been placed higher ... far simpler than flood doors .... and in the 1970s, there was still very little metro. The original plan had been to transfer some of tram lines in Central Prague underground to free up some road space but it was under Soviet pressure that the idea of a BOMB-PROOF proper metro was conceived. It was only after the 2002 floods that PROPER flood doors were fitted. There were some problems in 2013 but NOTHING like would have happened without those doors. As for New York, they will probably wait till there is a catastrophic disaster and THEN they will think about it.
@@terryhoath1983 ", in fact, a lot of it is stuck up on stilts." Not in Manhattan, and that was the point of the subway - the lower the trains from their existing condition as elevated rail, where they were noisy, hard to maintain and cast shadowed, under street level underground, to improve quality of life, ventilation and views.. "and in the 1970s, there was still very little metro." In the 70s already the city center sections of the A line(from current Dejvická to nám Míru) and C lines (from Kačerov to current Florenc) were completed. "The original plan had" That was the original plan from the 1930s that was revived in 1963. Under that concept the C line broke ground in 1966, but already in 1967 it fell apart, as it was determined to create a dedicated underground system due to the fact that the tram system was overcrowded, the frequency of stops made it very slow and it was fundementally incapable of serving Prague's future transport needs. A deep bored metro was already understood to be necessary, due to Prague's great changes in elevation - especially between the elevation change of the Dejvice Plateau, under the Vltava and again up to Vinohrady. This all preempted any Soviet pressure. What was however pressured by the Soviets was implementing the 81-709 (Ečs) carriage type, abandoning the ČKD R1 prototype, but that was also partly due to the fact that ČKD would not be able to deliver series production of the R1 in time for the metro openings in 1974, since its production capacity was being taken up by trams intended for export into the USSR that was prioritized. "that PROPER flood doors were fitted." No, you are wrong. The doors I am referring to, and which existed since original construction, are the large steel hermetic doors that are placed between the passage from the escalators and the lower concourse and again on the tracks themselves just beyond the station exits themselves. It is the Ochranný systém metra. You are referring to the movable steel slats that are put in place by firefighters at street level, this is an entirely separate thing. The original system called for basically sacrificing the upper vestibule and escalator tubes, while keeping the tracks and lower stations sealed off and pumping out any potential water. And the reason for that was exactly because from the early days of the Metro - the Stations at Malostranská, Staroměstská and Florenc would all be at risk of flooding. New York is thinking about it now, the issue is as I wrote above, retrofitting and disruption. It still has supremely outdated block signaling on much of its tracks exactly due to the damage having to have even small sections of the subway closed for upgrades for any period of time. NYC's great problem is a lack of redundancy to be able to embark on these upgrades.
And then John Crapper Founded Newark so Manhattan and most of New York could Flush.. lol. Just kidding , I don't know who founded Newark, but we know why.
😂IM-migrants have been "coming in" Turtle 🐢 Island for over 400 years and their descendants think EVERYBODY(themselves) is a "migrant" except them, just because they were "born and raised" here. 🌎What a hoot !
New York will not be saved in it's present globally prominent position, because that will not be cost effective for the corporations and politicians who have the power to protect it. Money rules New York, and profits will determine what is done year by year. Developers will continue to profit from building in threatened areas - and then leave town with their profits when sea level rise floods those areas. Corporations will abandon New York and move to cheaper cities on higher ground when floods make it uneconomical to stay - many have already prepared or are preparing new locations for that future. Politicians know this, and so will not raise corporate taxes to the level needed to fund permanent solutions. Yes, they are taking steps to slow the destruction of New York while New York remains a cash cow for the politically and financially well connected - but they're not going to prevent its eventual downfall, that would cost too much.
In a hundred and fifty years it will be a much smaller, much less important city on the high ground currently covered with cemeteries, on high ground in the outer boroughs, and on floating neighborhoods taking advantage of the increased water surface area - but it's former glory days will be just a footnote in history.
Am I the only one annoyed with the music? It's to loud for the video.
No your not. When I have to fight to hear the dialogue I give up.
Start spreading the news
I'm leaving today I want to be a part of it. NEW YORK NEW YORK !
@@JamesPilkenton-se5cx
Just take a walk on the wild side.
@@juliebarks3195 I end up using the captions
I hardly noticed the music. It was relatively moderate. I do wish we could control the music levels on videos though. They should have two audio tracks that we could adjust to our taste. Some music is REALLY obnoxious.
The lowest stations on the London Underground have had huge flood doors for nearly a century, long before the Thames Barrier was more than a school boy project. The Prague Metro has had flood doors on the lowest stations for 20 years. New Yorkers have all the money necessary to jack the entire place up on stilts OR to abandon the lower floors with elevated road running past the 4th floor. With a building 50-80 floors high, who gives a tinker's damn about the bottom 3 floors ? As for building embankments, Hurricane Katrina revealed to us that American's are not very good at that.
Prague's metro was built in the 70s already with flood doors - their secondary purpose was however to serve as seals in the event the metro would be used as shelter for atomic bombings. Because they were never action tested, when the floods of 2002 happened, most failed and the whole endeavor became moot (though even if they didn't fail it would have had the same conclusion, since the Nádraží Holešovice metro was under reconstruction at the time, and was basically a giant open hole, directly next to the river). It is exactly because NYC's metro is so old, that retrofitting is much more complicated - the cut and cover method very close to street level, with ample side-walk grate ventilation makes installing flood gates largely a useless waste.
@@serebii666 Thanks for the reply. Just like the London "Underground", the great majority of which isn't "UNDER" anything, so, the great majority of the New York "Subway" is not "SUB" anything either, in fact, a lot of it is stuck up on stilts.
As for Prague, as you wrote, in 2002 most of the so.called protection was useless, and I suggest, was never intended to stop flood water or the entrances would have been placed higher ... far simpler than flood doors .... and in the 1970s, there was still very little metro. The original plan had been to transfer some of tram lines in Central Prague underground to free up some road space but it was under Soviet pressure that the idea of a BOMB-PROOF proper metro was conceived. It was only after the 2002 floods that PROPER flood doors were fitted. There were some problems in 2013 but NOTHING like would have happened without those doors.
As for New York, they will probably wait till there is a catastrophic disaster and THEN they will think about it.
@@terryhoath1983 ", in fact, a lot of it is stuck up on stilts." Not in Manhattan, and that was the point of the subway - the lower the trains from their existing condition as elevated rail, where they were noisy, hard to maintain and cast shadowed, under street level underground, to improve quality of life, ventilation and views..
"and in the 1970s, there was still very little metro." In the 70s already the city center sections of the A line(from current Dejvická to nám Míru) and C lines (from Kačerov to current Florenc) were completed.
"The original plan had" That was the original plan from the 1930s that was revived in 1963. Under that concept the C line broke ground in 1966, but already in 1967 it fell apart, as it was determined to create a dedicated underground system due to the fact that the tram system was overcrowded, the frequency of stops made it very slow and it was fundementally incapable of serving Prague's future transport needs. A deep bored metro was already understood to be necessary, due to Prague's great changes in elevation - especially between the elevation change of the Dejvice Plateau, under the Vltava and again up to Vinohrady. This all preempted any Soviet pressure. What was however pressured by the Soviets was implementing the 81-709 (Ečs) carriage type, abandoning the ČKD R1 prototype, but that was also partly due to the fact that ČKD would not be able to deliver series production of the R1 in time for the metro openings in 1974, since its production capacity was being taken up by trams intended for export into the USSR that was prioritized.
"that PROPER flood doors were fitted." No, you are wrong. The doors I am referring to, and which existed since original construction, are the large steel hermetic doors that are placed between the passage from the escalators and the lower concourse and again on the tracks themselves just beyond the station exits themselves. It is the Ochranný systém metra. You are referring to the movable steel slats that are put in place by firefighters at street level, this is an entirely separate thing. The original system called for basically sacrificing the upper vestibule and escalator tubes, while keeping the tracks and lower stations sealed off and pumping out any potential water. And the reason for that was exactly because from the early days of the Metro - the Stations at Malostranská, Staroměstská and Florenc would all be at risk of flooding.
New York is thinking about it now, the issue is as I wrote above, retrofitting and disruption. It still has supremely outdated block signaling on much of its tracks exactly due to the damage having to have even small sections of the subway closed for upgrades for any period of time. NYC's great problem is a lack of redundancy to be able to embark on these upgrades.
Great documentary! Thank you..
It'll be underwater tomorrow morn. I'll just pay more tax to prevent it.👍
Bring in the Dutch👍🇳🇱
They need grammarly
😂thats WHY the earth is burning 🌋 flooding, 🌊 catching fire 🔥 and sinking.
One thing is for certain millionaires row does not flood. Only the poor sections of New York
The music drowns out the dialog.
Lots of room in north america move here to Alberta canada and stop living next the ocean.
17:17 "work is set to begin in 2019" i beg your pardon? we're in 2024. is this a recycled vid?
I won't miss it.
And then John Crapper Founded Newark so Manhattan and most of New York could Flush.. lol.
Just kidding , I don't know who founded Newark, but we know why.
Now ya know why they lettin' all the Immigrants in......😂
😂IM-migrants have been "coming in" Turtle 🐢 Island for over 400 years and their descendants think EVERYBODY(themselves) is a "migrant" except them, just because they were "born and raised" here. 🌎What a hoot !
@@soulfoodforthought9225 😂
clueless
I'm sure that could be a problem sometimes. Never too late to learn. :)