I have watched a few documentaries about forgers and I'm in awe of their talent and agree with them that they are doing something for which there's huge demand. The dishonest ones are the art galleries, the art dealers and the easily fooled wealthy eager to pay through the nose for a piece of historic art, inflating prices and creating this never ending circle of greed.
Obviously many Forgers are incredible artists. As wrong as it is it just goes to show that the name notoriety of famous artists is not a gauge of talent in any art.
Ken Perenyi had a level of sensitivity and for what it's worth, 'ethics' in his forgeries. For one, he'd choose artists that have been dead for over a hundred years and did not have an estate or family record; and two, he never capitalized on 'rising' or 'newly interested' artists for the sake of money alone. He wanted to pay respects to these long forgotten artists that he admired....and above all, selling the art was just a clever and enjoyable game to him. I love this guy!!!
I read his book....not a bad tale....the truth is most auction houses know FA about Art......and they cover themselves in the small print of the contracts.....nothing is guaranteed.....
"Someone ends up with fool's gold on their walls." Yeah, someone with enough money to buy a half million dollar painting to just hang on their fucking wall. And that's if you give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren't just laundering money. It basically is a victimless crime.
What an artist! I’d love to have a painting by him. Brilliant man. If any Art house wanted to stamp out fraud they would hire him ... but they don’t. Why? Could the answer possibly be they would loose money if the art houses cleaned up their act? Could it be that some art is vastly overpriced and when experts are unable to tell the difference between a piece just painted and an old master, the art houses would not want this widely known. I’d love to have a painting of his, alas I wouldn’t be able to afford it. Best wishes to him and stay safe everyone. ☘️🌝🌲
Just how much does it cost for Rolex to make a watch they charge thousands for? Politicians, lawyers rip us off everyday, with his paintings only the ego rich feel hurt.
?? Lawyers?? No, they're not cheap, but they have a crapton of knowledge, are usually very smart; not to mention, they likely have some hefty, hefty student loans to repay lol. Now, an art forger who is passing his or her works as *real or by the actual artist - including their present market price - *that is "overpaying." Part of the reason a work is the price it is has not so much to do with the skill or talent required for said artwork, but everything to do with the story and the, as they say, "provenance" of the piece and the artist herself. The history is half the magic. To touch the actual thing that artist touched--not some random dude. That's what makes it special. In my opinion, to say "oh, well if you can't tell it doesn't matter" is, at its base, bullspit.
It's called capitalism. You get as much as you can. I do it. You do it in your job too. Don't you get as much pay as you possibly can? Or do you tell your boss, like, whoa dude that's too much. I don't want it. Think of all the starving Tibetan children. The only hot food they get is a bowl of steam. Give it to them......yeah I bet you do!
Well said folkman200, I couldnt agree more. If the art world is not supporting all the genuinely talented artists out there today, then tough for them if an amazing artist finds a way have them do so.
I think art forgers appreciates paintings an art more than those who buy only because it's a famous painting and they're rich. I don't really care if it's a forgery because original artists are usually dead and they can't loose their money. Forgers spent their time to really paint, to create and it's an art itself.
he chose 19th century american paintings and he painted them amazingly well, art collectors expect probably auction houses to sell originals but they also sell fakes, and his books title is correct caveat emptor, buyer beware. If you buy a famous work, it should have provenance and also be chemically tested or dont buy it.
Every true artist has his/her own style. The reason artists copy famous works in museums is to learn from them. Not to learn how to copy them not to try to sell them as originals. Truly talented beautiful work is obvious when one looks at it - it doesn't copy anyone else. Most forgers try to copy an artist's style and pass their paintings off as a newly discovered work.
'Fools gold' ? I would take some any day. Art is art and people with too much money deserve what they get. Auction houses are notorious for their dark dealings, just read the catalogue disclamers. 'Experts' that cannot detect a 'forgery' are not experts. Ken 'imitated' the style of these painters he didn't directly copy them for the most part. I'm with Ken on this.
A guy who snatches someone's purse goes to jail for a year or more. A guy who steals millions through forgery gets away free, without remorse, and other people make a hero out of him. Unfathomable.
its actually pretty cool to think about fakes being out in the wild in a way. Art's value is half about story and history. What's greater than beautiful art that's tricked its way into collections and exhibits, hiding in plain sight for potentially hundreds of years? It's like seeing a pack of animals and then someone telling you, some of them aren't actually the animal you think it is. Very cool, and I think that's worth something in its own right, both in value and to the art world.
Silvana Kelsey I totally agree with you. He's a genius. That woman who hates him has mis directed rage. She used the term, Fools Gold. Now you can prove the purity of gold chemically but real experts can tell just by looking at it. Can we say the same about so called art experts? They were fooled.
+Sergio Lobato Right, that's a serious crime. It's like trading someone a bunch of money that could magically lose all it's value at any time. It's disgusting, what a sad and wasted life.
Do you think seriously that one piece of Van-Gogh or any other starving or,nowadays, rogue painter being worth $ 100 million?I think the really serious and deadly crime is what Christie's and their experts are doing together with the snob billionaires against the Art.Recently they was working hard for years,to justify a suspicious (maybe fake) Leonardo's originality...For very-very much money.Then the poor painting has been hidden from the humankind for ever.... @@Archetype77
You wonder if a famous artist ever forged something earlier in their life before becoming famous... like a fake da vinchi painted by Monet out there somewhere 😂
I agree wholeheartedly. “art collectors/experts” are not really interested in the art work itself, but rather the signature; it’s the forged name of the artist that makes the “big-wigs” of the art world so disgruntled by the forger. Oh well.
Love the comments one and all. Most of the masters like turner are just appalling artist with no idea of perspective but people with money are easy to convince they're better than others and are just more refined in there taste. That's why it's great when they get ripped off and the auction house's support it.
So is perspective your main criteria for being a master artist? I think it’s lower down the list of criteria I’m looking for in a master. Not to say I don’t admire it or that I’m not a little thrown off by wonky perspective, but it’s not the be all end all for me.
There are only two kinds of people in this world - those who do and those who profit from the efforts of others. Like most artists I have no sympathy with art dealers and greedy ignorant collectors only interested in money. A good painting is a good painting no matter who made it. And if the so called experts cannot tell the difference between a two or three hundred year old work and a recent one they are stupid. Picasso was in the habit of signing paintings of his friends who needed money - and why not? Life is different at the business side of the easel.
I'm sorry, but the original Buttersworth is obviously superior, in my lay opinion - it just looks a lot smoother (and still alot better than I could do lol)
the real art here is the fact he makes fools of "experts" ..but why should he not? these people sell garbage doodles they call "abstract" for millions.. while real talented painters go broke
The only reason these old paintings are worth anything at all is because rich people have made a game out of impressing each other with their holdings. Frankly, I wouldnt give fifty bucks for any one of them.
This guy may be guilty of forgery, but auction houses may be guilty of stupidity. >>>>>>>>>>checkout "Mystery of a Masterpiece" it's a good example of how the big auction houses like to present themselves as experts, when all they're interested in is moving money. Watch it
The more coveted the item, the more valuable the item is the more likely the item will become a victim of forgery. It is speculated that upwards of 65 % of all hogh end /Blue Chip Art in the Art marketplace is Fake, Forged, Misrepresented Etc... but this is much like many other commodities Etc... in the marketplace. Chances are most people at one point or another will be fooled by such. Anywhere from Food, Clothing, Art, Real Estate, Shoes, Jewelry, Money Electronics, People Etc... and as technology increases so will the deceptions.
What I don't get is how they (the experts, auction houses etc.) can imagine that the same bumbling guy happens to keep turning up with another hitherto undiscovered painting by a famous historical artist. You'd think that would be a bit of a give away. I suppose they must be in on it, to a certain extent, after being fooled the first time. They can't admit that the first painting they authenticated was a forgery without embarrassing themselves, so they have to authenticate all the others.
Because they are greedy bastards who want to fine a (new) old painting they can make money off of. Same thing in every industry - dishonesty, greed, hide anything that doesn't agree with their opinions and efforts to make $.
If I where a collector, I would collect paintings from current artists. That is how you stop forgers like this guy from becoming forgers in the first place. The art world has to stop living with past masters, and start making new ones.
I love the so-called art expert in this video. She, like all the others who say they detest art forgers such as the genius she mocks down her nose here, are merely annoyed that they are exposed THEMSELVES as the fakes THEY are. "Fools gold" she called his paintings that were sold... when the truth is the real fools are the one's who place such value on ANY piece of canvas. All this man did was confront fools with the truth of their foolishness. No wonder they dislike him.
Bravo Ken. The notion of original art is so pretentious. If authentic art needs to be assessed by experts with huge subjective art-appreciation experience as well as forensic art experts and highly-technical laboratory analysis - would not a very good approximation or forgery be as good as the original? (If not better in some cases?). Because human art understanding and appreciation is not dependent on whether the article is original or not. Understanding and appreciation of works of visual art are functions of the neurology of the vision being interpreted and thus independent of the ‘authenticity’ of the work. To ascribe importance to the provenance of a work is to liken it to a religious relic. We do not appraise Mahler’s music by possessing the original manuscript - we listen to the music. We need more iconoclasts like Ken.
You can find TH-cam videos like Ken Perenyi and many others such as Max Brandrett, Eric Hebborn, Mark Landis, David Stine, Mauro Morani, Tony Tetro, Shaun Greenhalgh, Elmyer de Hory, Han Van Meegeren, John Myatt, John Drewe, Tom Keating, Wolfgang Beltracchi, Yves Chaudron, Giovanni Bastianini, Ken Perenyi, Shaun Greenhalgh, Shawn Greenhouse, David Henty, Billy "The Brush" Mumford. All Fascinatingly disgusting art forgers and appalling I can't stop watching their brilliant's of deception and craft.
I'm sorry, but talent is talent. How is this guy's art "dark"? Forgers make us think about the value of things and why they are considered great or not.
So, he was passionate about painting. He failed with his paintings: nobody appreciated its canvases. Therefore he started copying the appreciated painters: addictive, as he says; and also a feeling of revenge on the market makers. 'if they say my art is not worth much, then let them pay for my ability making fakes'. This must have crossed his mind.
Great art fashioned by the hand of man to replicate a greater art, that of the creator’s hand, will always be wonderful, albeit it is an inferior representation. God the great artist who represents beauty so beautifully in nature, from flower to a beautifully swimming goldfish with its translucent tails, is an artist like no other. If great works by artists is worthy of admiration then how much more admirable is the art by God Himself. Admiration of God’s work is called worship.
I have watched a few documentaries about forgers and I'm in awe of their talent and agree with them that they are doing something for which there's huge demand. The dishonest ones are the art galleries, the art dealers and the easily fooled wealthy eager to pay through the nose for a piece of historic art, inflating prices and creating this never ending circle of greed.
Obviously many Forgers are incredible artists. As wrong as it is it just goes to show that the name notoriety of famous artists is not a gauge of talent in any art.
for some reason, art forgers gain respect, regardless of his motives, he has incredible talent, much respect
Forgers are such masters in exposing the utter ignorance of so-called art experts, I love them.
And don't forget their greed !
True
Amen to that brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hear, hear. The sooner the world wakes up to the so-called "experts" and ignores them...the better
The 'experts' aren't pissed about the paintings (as so they feign), rather that their own dickery is exposed.
Ken Perenyi had a level of sensitivity and for what it's worth, 'ethics' in his forgeries. For one, he'd choose artists that have been dead for over a hundred years and did not have an estate or family record; and two, he never capitalized on 'rising' or 'newly interested' artists for the sake of money alone. He wanted to pay respects to these long forgotten artists that he admired....and above all, selling the art was just a clever and enjoyable game to him. I love this guy!!!
The man is a LEGEND .... I Salute You !!!
I would buy one of his forgeries with his signature added lol
Would be cool to have such an interesting guys work.
wow man that guy is super talented, those paintings are incredible
I have to admit, when I saw this story for the first time all those years ago, I’ve always want one of his fakes.
I think I would rather have one of his forgeries than an original just because of his genius in mimicry.
the pleasure you felt admiring his art isnt fake after all
Love Art forgers!.
word.
How much is he selling his arts for ? they are beautiful, he is genuinely a master painter.
I read his book....not a bad tale....the truth is most auction houses know FA about Art......and they cover themselves in the small print of the contracts.....nothing is guaranteed.....
"Someone ends up with fool's gold on their walls."
Yeah, someone with enough money to buy a half million dollar painting to just hang on their fucking wall. And that's if you give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren't just laundering money. It basically is a victimless crime.
What an artist! I’d love to have a painting by him. Brilliant man. If any Art house wanted to stamp out fraud they would hire him ... but they don’t. Why? Could the answer possibly be they would loose money if the art houses cleaned up their act?
Could it be that some art is vastly overpriced and when experts are unable to tell the difference between a piece just painted and an old master, the art houses would not want this widely known. I’d love to have a painting of his, alas I wouldn’t be able to afford it. Best wishes to him and stay safe everyone.
☘️🌝🌲
What an absolute Legend ;-)
Just how much does it cost for Rolex to make a watch they charge thousands for? Politicians, lawyers rip us off everyday, with his paintings only the ego rich feel hurt.
?? Lawyers?? No, they're not cheap, but they have a crapton of knowledge, are usually very smart; not to mention, they likely have some hefty, hefty student loans to repay lol. Now, an art forger who is passing his or her works as *real or by the actual artist - including their present market price - *that is "overpaying." Part of the reason a work is the price it is has not so much to do with the skill or talent required for said artwork, but everything to do with the story and the, as they say, "provenance" of the piece and the artist herself. The history is half the magic. To touch the actual thing that artist touched--not some random dude. That's what makes it special. In my opinion, to say "oh, well if you can't tell it doesn't matter" is, at its base, bullspit.
It's called capitalism. You get as much as you can. I do it. You do it in your job too. Don't you get as much pay as you possibly can? Or do you tell your boss, like, whoa dude that's too much. I don't want it. Think of all the starving Tibetan children. The only hot food they get is a bowl of steam. Give it to them......yeah I bet you do!
i would've loved a life like this. fuck the "art world". kudos, perenyi! shake their asses up a bit.
You'd think after Hebborn was assassinated no one would think to be a forger or to boast about it.
I'd buy his art..
Thanks for confession and service.
Well said folkman200, I couldnt agree more. If the art world is not supporting all the genuinely talented artists out there today, then tough for them if an amazing artist finds a way have them do so.
I LOVE WHEN RICH SNOBS GET SCREWED....IT'S SO FITTING
what a talent
If you like it and can afford it--buy it! Forget playing art like the stock market. THAT is where the problems arise.
I think art forgers appreciates paintings an art more than those who buy only because it's a famous painting and they're rich. I don't really care if it's a forgery because original artists are usually dead and they can't loose their money. Forgers spent their time to really paint, to create and it's an art itself.
Es un meticuloso artesano de la falsificación. Y un pintor extraordinario.
This man is a legend!!!
i believe that if artist had a better living there would be less forgery.
enrique guillen
he chose 19th century american paintings and he painted them amazingly well, art collectors expect probably auction houses to sell originals but they also sell fakes, and his books title is correct caveat emptor, buyer beware. If you buy a famous work, it should have provenance and also be chemically tested or dont buy it.
Every true artist has his/her own style. The reason artists copy famous works in museums is to learn from them. Not to learn how to copy them not to try to sell them as originals.
Truly talented beautiful work is obvious when one looks at it - it doesn't copy anyone else.
Most forgers try to copy an artist's style and pass their paintings off as a newly discovered work.
this is amazing!
'Fools gold' ? I would take some any day. Art is art and people with too much money deserve what they get. Auction houses are notorious for their dark dealings, just read the catalogue disclamers. 'Experts' that cannot detect a 'forgery' are not experts. Ken 'imitated' the style of these painters he didn't directly copy them for the most part. I'm with Ken on this.
And let it be a punishment to all that call themselves experts LOL 👍👍
A guy who snatches someone's purse goes to jail for a year or more. A guy who steals millions through forgery gets away free, without remorse, and other people make a hero out of him. Unfathomable.
I have been a painter for 50 years and i am seriously considering painting fakes.
I've read the book. The discription of the narrative is extremely detail like his paintings.
This man is amazing.
Next to Tramp these guys are SAINTS!!.....they play w/the greed of the Trampanzees!!
This is damn amazing!
I read his book. What a roller coaster ride!
Good for him. Very talented.
its actually pretty cool to think about fakes being out in the wild in a way. Art's value is half about story and history. What's greater than beautiful art that's tricked its way into collections and exhibits, hiding in plain sight for potentially hundreds of years? It's like seeing a pack of animals and then someone telling you, some of them aren't actually the animal you think it is. Very cool, and I think that's worth something in its own right, both in value and to the art world.
He's a genius, the woman is jealous because she can't paint.
Silvana Kelsey He's a worthless fraud.
Silvana Kelsey I totally agree with you. He's a genius. That woman who hates him has mis directed rage. She used the term, Fools Gold. Now you can prove the purity of gold chemically but real experts can tell just by looking at it. Can we say the same about so called art experts? They were fooled.
+Sergio Lobato Right, that's a serious crime. It's like trading someone a bunch of money that could magically lose all it's value at any time. It's disgusting, what a sad and wasted life.
Silvana Kelsey hhh you weman understand each othet;)
Do you think seriously that one piece of Van-Gogh or any other starving or,nowadays, rogue painter being worth $ 100 million?I think the really serious and deadly crime is what Christie's and their experts are doing together with the snob billionaires against the Art.Recently they was working hard for years,to justify a suspicious (maybe fake) Leonardo's originality...For very-very much money.Then the poor painting has been hidden from the humankind for ever.... @@Archetype77
The guy has more talent than any of the experts
You wonder if a famous artist ever forged something earlier in their life before becoming famous... like a fake da vinchi painted by Monet out there somewhere 😂
Selling fake art is like selling a car that can’t drive. Art forgery is a serious crime
I agree wholeheartedly. “art collectors/experts” are not really interested in the art work itself, but rather the signature; it’s the forged name of the artist that makes the “big-wigs” of the art world so disgruntled by the forger. Oh well.
this guy is a better artist than the original masters :)
It actually is a Victimless crime..... anybody stupid enough not to get more than one specialist to examine before the sale deserves to be stupid....
Martin Johnson Heade is one of my favourite artists. You’d really have to have a sizable ego to take on such work.
That’s an incredible talent
Love the comments one and all. Most of the masters like turner are just appalling artist with no idea of perspective but people with money are easy to convince they're better than others and are just more refined in there taste. That's why it's great when they get ripped off and the auction house's support it.
So is perspective your main criteria for being a master artist? I think it’s lower down the list of criteria I’m looking for in a master. Not to say I don’t admire it or that I’m not a little thrown off by wonky perspective, but it’s not the be all end all for me.
What a clever man!
So, how much for one of his originals?
i like this guy, great artist
This guy is absolutely hilarious!
This dude rules
There are only two kinds of people in this world - those who do and those who profit from the efforts of others. Like most artists I have no sympathy with art dealers and greedy ignorant collectors only interested in money. A good painting is a good painting no matter who made it. And if the so called experts cannot tell the difference between a two or three hundred year old work and a recent one they are stupid. Picasso was in the habit of signing paintings of his friends who needed money - and why not? Life is different at the business side of the easel.
I'm sorry, but the original Buttersworth is obviously superior, in my lay opinion - it just looks a lot smoother (and still alot better than I could do lol)
It’s not the owners or ‘experts’, it’s the disrespect to the dead artists.
Thought Ken was pretty tall and then the interviewer stands next to him, is he a giant?? 1:33
the real art here is the fact he makes fools of "experts" ..but why should he not? these people sell garbage doodles they call "abstract" for millions.. while real talented painters go broke
8:38 Fool's Gold - perfect definition of "art."
8:10, Mwahahahahaaaa!
i once copied a famous painting but later felt bad about it and never did that again. friends loved it though
The only reason these old paintings are worth anything at all is because rich people have made a game out of impressing each other with their holdings. Frankly, I wouldnt give fifty bucks for any one of them.
Genius!
This guy may be guilty of forgery, but auction houses may be guilty of stupidity.
>>>>>>>>>>checkout "Mystery of a Masterpiece" it's a good example of how the big
auction houses like to present themselves as experts, when all they're interested in
is moving money. Watch it
The more coveted the item, the more valuable the item is the more likely the item will become a victim of forgery. It is speculated that upwards of 65 % of all hogh end /Blue Chip Art in the Art marketplace is Fake, Forged, Misrepresented Etc... but this is much like many other commodities Etc... in the marketplace. Chances are most people at one point or another will be fooled by such. Anywhere from Food, Clothing, Art, Real Estate, Shoes, Jewelry, Money Electronics, People Etc... and as technology increases so will the deceptions.
brilliant painter..
A genius laughing at the experts
Painting by numbers ..... big numbers :)
He's very good at this
he said everything .. lot of practice!
Lol, she even said foolsgold, meaning the person buying fake gold is the fool...
if you just print it will it look fake?
Great guy!!!
At 2:35 awesome Willys Jeep!!!
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Gotta love him. There are a lot of people who have egg on their face.
what a good vid
Real interesting.
Someones got an Ego. Lol
What I don't get is how they (the experts, auction houses etc.) can imagine that the same bumbling guy happens to keep turning up with another hitherto undiscovered painting by a famous historical artist. You'd think that would be a bit of a give away. I suppose they must be in on it, to a certain extent, after being fooled the first time. They can't admit that the first painting they authenticated was a forgery without embarrassing themselves, so they have to authenticate all the others.
Because they are greedy bastards who want to fine a (new) old painting they can make money off of. Same thing in every industry - dishonesty, greed, hide anything that doesn't agree with their opinions and efforts to make $.
Brilliant I want the book where can I get it
eBay.
If I where a collector, I would collect paintings from current artists. That is how you stop forgers like this guy from becoming forgers in the first place. The art world has to stop living with past masters, and start making new ones.
I love the so-called art expert in this video. She, like all the others who say they detest art forgers such as the genius she mocks down her nose here, are merely annoyed that they are exposed THEMSELVES as the fakes THEY are. "Fools gold" she called his paintings that were sold... when the truth is the real fools are the one's who place such value on ANY piece of canvas. All this man did was confront fools with the truth of their foolishness. No wonder they dislike him.
Bravo Ken. The notion of original art is so pretentious. If authentic art needs to be assessed by experts with huge subjective art-appreciation experience as well as forensic art experts and highly-technical laboratory analysis - would not a very good approximation or forgery be as good as the original? (If not better in some cases?). Because human art understanding and appreciation is not dependent on whether the article is original or not. Understanding and appreciation of works of visual art are functions of the neurology of the vision being interpreted and thus independent of the ‘authenticity’ of the work. To ascribe importance to the provenance of a work is to liken it to a religious relic. We do not appraise Mahler’s music by possessing the original manuscript - we listen to the music. We need more iconoclasts like Ken.
Guy's a boss!
You can find TH-cam videos like Ken Perenyi and many others such as Max Brandrett, Eric Hebborn, Mark Landis, David Stine, Mauro Morani, Tony Tetro, Shaun Greenhalgh, Elmyer de Hory, Han Van Meegeren, John Myatt, John Drewe, Tom Keating, Wolfgang Beltracchi, Yves Chaudron, Giovanni Bastianini, Ken Perenyi, Shaun Greenhalgh, Shawn Greenhouse, David Henty, Billy "The Brush" Mumford. All Fascinatingly disgusting art forgers and appalling I can't stop watching their brilliant's of deception and craft.
if anything he's created more value for originals
He’s still making and selling fakes... and talking about it? Brilliant.
I'm sorry, but talent is talent. How is this guy's art "dark"? Forgers make us think about the value of things and why they are considered great or not.
So, he was passionate about painting. He failed with his paintings: nobody appreciated its canvases. Therefore he started copying the appreciated painters: addictive, as he says; and also a feeling of revenge on the market makers. 'if they say my art is not worth much, then let them pay for my ability making fakes'. This must have crossed his mind.
So much crime is laundered with art so everyones a criminal at some point.
If you like that this check out Eric Hebbron.
Great art fashioned by the hand of man to replicate a greater art, that of the creator’s hand, will always be wonderful, albeit it is an inferior representation.
God the great artist who represents beauty so beautifully in nature, from flower to a beautifully swimming goldfish with its translucent tails, is an artist like no other.
If great works by artists is worthy of admiration then how much more admirable is the art by God Himself.
Admiration of God’s work is called worship.
Is he single? Masters have copied one another forever.
Smug con artist.
it is a victimless crime. if art buyers arent educated enough to learn what theyre buying then so be it. CAVEAT EMPTOR!
Can't do it like that anymore. Dating using sensitive equipment