She was attracted to her, because she thought she was very rich. She accepted very expensive gifts, without even hesitation. She seems like a fake friend. And now, she even wants to make money out of that so called "friendship". A fake friend got played well. Of course, that doesn't justify Annas behaviour at all, but it just shows how greedy and fake people can be, when they smell money.
@Stop Pretending I am Not An Obtuse Triangle...Right if you're a con artist & you get conned you don't get mad. You chalk it up to the game, move on & not bitch about it. Anna ain't shit. Rachel ain't shit either.
And there we go folks, the typical judgement comment by a self righteous person blaming the victim. A 5 minute snippet video and that is enough to form a well thought out assessment?
@@soundboardist ...nobody is saying that being an opportunist is illegal? nobody is saying throw Rachel in jail. they're just making it clear that she's not a fucking victim either.
She seems pretty normal to me, a fairly normal girly girl feminine type young women. Unfortunately those super girly girls tend to be bad at character judgement and, well, here we are.
True that. Girl needs to be ensconced ASAP in a white-shoe, leafy Connecticut suburb with a Goldman Sachs husband and three kids no more than 2 years apart.
@@lauratroi3324 I mean if I went on a vacation with friends no matter how filthy rich they are I would pay my own bills and I wouldn’t go on a vacation that I cannot even afford, just because my rich friend can pay for me
My real question is, how could you be comfortable with someone else paying tens of thousands of dollars for your vacation? I would stay in a motel before allowing that. Sounds like the user got used.
Never trust someone who buys you expensive gifts and offers to pay for everything... there's always a catch. Either they're expecting something in return (consciously or unconsciously) or they're just straight up scamming you. Severely unbalanced relationships are dangerous.
@@jfm14 Words of wisdom! Severely unbalanced relationships truly are toxic across the board. Typically, the person who is doing all the giving starts to behave as though they own the person they're giving to. They also tend to become controlling, manipulative, and extremely arrogant. They give you the world, you owe them your soul and all your rights. No joke.
What I love about Anna’s trial is that it really exposes the rich people and how they are influenced by money even by someone who didn’t have any. It all about looks and money. Major props to Anna although she did deserve the counts
I worked at a magazine in the aughts in NYC right before Anna hit the scene and the ENTIRE industry and related industries were ALLLLL about spectable so it is NOT shocking AT ALL Anna conned SO many . I love NYC but those types of people she conned aren't worthy or idolatry or professional respect. It's all fake.
You talk as if people didn't already know that lol! You're talking as if Anna is the first person in the world to figure out that money and looks influence people. Anna is a scam artist and if anyone was exposed in this whole debacle, its Anna. She lied, she manipulated people that called her "Friends".. wrote fake checks, stayed endless nights at hotels without paying, pretending to be her father through a voice changing app, lying to banks to get loans. perfect definition of a scammer. There are 3 kinds of people I REALLY don't like in this world, Rapists, child molesters and scammers so please next time don't start a sentence with "what I like about Anna" then proceed to mention something everyone is aware of.
@@unprocessed_life yes, you're absolutely right. Never has a person smiled when they didn't feel well in the history of time. Smile = good tear = bad Welcome to kindergarten
And got her whole credit card bill wiped clean so she didn't even have to suffer the financial pain she alleges. She was not under duress and willingly gave over her acrds. That's on her. It's tough but that's life.
Why are we monsters her card debt was wiped clean and she wrote a vanity Fair article with her picture in it as the author before Anna even went on trial. I'm not saying Anna's at all right in a lot of instances but this Rachel person is horrendous she took tens and tens of thousands of dollars worth of dinners gifts drinks clothes from Anna over 2 years and made way over $600,000. It was such a painful experience that it was brand new and she wrote a vanity Fair article about it. You know she's fake because she says that share this on such a public scale and not be the takeaway that the jury didn't believe she was conned was so painful but she'd already written a vanity Fair article with her own picture in as the author of the article so everyone would know who she was. I think what was painful about the not guilty decision is that it cause people to question her reputation and her side of the story.
That's why she dumped her , and he is not a real friend , she let her in prison n also spend money on her amex that not even was hers , she must pay n apologize to Anna for not being a friend
Uhm you didn't even get charged the amount and you went on a trip for free? You used her just as much and now your profiting from all of this with a book and movie deal. I'm glad the jury didn't award you any money!!
She did get charged the amount on her credit card. Everyone if your best friend who was super rich said come with me for a all expenses paid trip you would jump at the chance she is guilty of being naive then scared of being stuck in another country
Jawbreaker Snack actually that girl is in jail because she scammed a lot of businesses. As they say the Jury didn’t feel pity for the girl, so if they charged Ana (or whatever her name is) it wasn’t for “scamming” her friend it was for scamming many businesses.
It's not tricky normal middle class folks get scammed and no one seems to care except when it happens to the elite. Then the justice system wants to do something about it
Anna is a criminal. Rachel made a dumb mistake and was caught up in hanging around someone she thought was rich. But Anna is a CRIMINAL. The lawyer saying she didn’t have to put her credit card down…had she not Rachel AND Anna would’ve been in Morocco jail. I’m not saying I feel bad for Rachel, but I see people focusing on Rachel and not Anna, ya know the criminal.
What she went through, if the account of how things unfolded is accurate, must have been extremely stressful both on the day the hotel incident happened and afterwards when her life was falling apart. Just because she eventually managed to turn things around, doesn't mean that what she went through wasn't terrible. And when you go through such a traumatic experience, that can have a serious impact on you for the rest of your life (lack of trust in people, etc.).
how is it tricky? her "friend" scammed her out of $60k...and it was on her work's company card. Even if she offered the card, Anna deceived her the entire time; she was never going to pay. Try being $60k in debt overnight and see how fast your life crumbles. She is the victim and did the right thing, plain and simple.
But in the end, Rachel won. She had all her fun without having to pay and did not go to jail for it. She also has a lot of attention and a book deal and did not suffer any consequences. I think she is maybe as much of a psychopath as Anna. She just did not get caught.
@@Mondoshawn Much respect to her, she turned a bad situation into profit. I'm actually glad she was able to bounce back from it. There's nothing about her that shows she's a psychopath. Accepting gifts from someone that offer them to you doesnt make you crazy. She did absolutely nothing wrong.
@@Mondoshawn Ok so Anna lied about her identity, how much money she had. Anna lied to banks, hotels etc.. But Rachel is the problem? All Rachel did was try to help Anna by putting up her own credit card when Anna got in trouble with the hotel. If Rachel was smart she would have kept her card in her purse - but if she had done that you would have called her a bad friend anyway. The way I see it Anna lied to Rachel, Anna lied to the hotel. Anna knew how much money Rachel had because Rachel had something Anna did not have and that was a LEGIT JOB! Rachel was just working and trying to make it in NYC like a normal person.
Amex only covered the charge for the villa. She was still held financially responsible for the flights as well as the money she loaned Anna in Morocco.
@@katiechisholm and yet she was hoping that Ana would have covered her flight as well as the whole trip. If you come to think of it, it's basically money that she owed ana for all the lavish diners and hangouts that Ana herself financed during their friendship. This girl is a user and thought she had won the lotto when she striked the rich friendship. A fake, basic bitch
Rachel Williams gets no sympathy from me. The courts agree. This girls wasn’t scammed. She was fine when Anna was paying for her clothes, spa treatments, elaborate trips. American Express did not even charge her. What is she out. And now she has profited from a book, movie, and interviews. An opportunist playing like a victim.
Ok, so a friend invites you to dinner at a fancy restaurant and you say, gee, "I'd love to go but I can't afford that place. So she says "I'll treat - I make four times what you make, you deserve a treat. I'm having lobster - what will you have?" Your friend orders a bottle of wine for the table. Then she says "We should get dessert!" Then when the bill comes, your friend slips out the back the back door and stiffs you with the bill. A bill she knew damn well you couldn't afford in the first place. As you're explaining your situation to the server, you over hear a couple at the next table snicker and say "I guess it's karma for taking advantage of her friend." You're quite confused by this as you're the one stuck with the bill and your so called friend snuck out on you. If you have no sympathy for Rachel, then you are in Anna's camp. Anna has never apologized nor showed any remorse for what she has done. In the end Anna was the only one who lied about her money, her intent to pay and even her identity. What did Rachel lie about?
When she said that at the end that charge was refuted I was like WTF?! So if I have an American Express I can go to a luxury hotel pay with it then refute it? The way to refute it at the bank to say that her (Rachel’s) card was stolen or her card information was stolen online… which is a lie because she did spend that holiday in the hotel, even though under the pretense that Anna is was paying for it. No surprise that her claim had little to no legal foundation
I think I read somewhere that it was a company credit card, but I'm not sure. It is possible to get a credit limit that's higher than your income, though.
People here are so harsh on the friend. Like y’all wouldn’t accept a trip from a good trusted friend whose idea it was in the first place who swims in money so it doesn’t mean anything to her. Ppl judge her for writing a book and not even having to pay the bill but she prob thought she was in serious debt for a long time! Hell I would write a book too it was always my dream to do it so props to her. Oh and she could probably be smiling bc of nerves.
Exactly. Like Anna scamming and pushing her friend under the bus is no big deal. But if you write your story what happened to you its betraying a friend. Hello?! Its exactly the opposite of what happened. It was Anna who betrayed her friend big time and she profited from her and she did it first to turn on her friend! 🤦
How would you feel if I invited you to some exotic place and said don't worry, I know it's expensive but I'll pay. You went along happily until some people basically threatened to have you locked up in a foreign country for skipping out on a bill you never agreed to? Would you also be happy and still up your friend's butt? Also, before anyone tries to tell me, WeLl ThEn DoNt gO On TrIpS iF YoUr FrIeNd Is PaYiNg....that's ridiculous. Sometimes, friends want to do things with their friends who can't afford something and they pay without thinking twice about it- and if everyone involved is okay with it....I really don't see why it would be a problem. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be grateful or that you can't be thankful and have fun and all that...but it also certainly doesn't mean that they own you and your happiness just because they paid for you.
Rachel was a victim and it's a shame that they found Anna guilty when it came to corporations, but not to a regular person. Rachel was in a horrible situation. I am definitely siding with her. It's common sense.
@@COCO-bl4ig the only one Anna was probably real with was neff because she is loyal too Anna even when Anna went to jail she was loyal. In one episode you see Anna actually be real with neff when neff asks why she gives and spends money and for a split second she’s real “Anna says kids used to make fun of her when she was a child for being poor and not having money ” and that’s all we get from the real Anna. Plus you see Rachel copy Anna multiple times like Rachel wants to be Anna. I do generally think neff knew what Anna was doing but didn’t bust her because in Neff’s mind everyone hustles somebody. That’s why Anna stayed at the hotel so long where neff worked at because she trusted neff.
Not really, In reality Rachel looks very normal in person compared to how she was portrayed in the Netflix show. The actor does not ever resemble her and she looks twice her weight. Hello casting director, did you forget your job!
Also Anna may have scammed everyone but she made everyone live like Alan he got up and went to work didn’t pay attention to his wife and gave his daughter whatever she asked for, but when he met Anna he started paying attention to his wife and cut his daughter off because let’s face it she was a spoiled brat so used to daddy & mommys money, even neff learned something from Anna go out and live and take chances and do what she wants too do, like be a director even you notice Anna has a impact on Vivian you notice at the end Vivian hair is straight and Vivian has on nice clothes and doesn’t dress down anymore.
I caught that she mentioned “being white” as a reason it was really easy for this girl to get away with so much. This coming from another white woman. She understands she won’t be questioned. She knows that no one would truly suspect it because it was believable. Her personality and persuasiveness got her in the door, but her being white is key. Glad American Express helped this girl. To the ones that feel Rachel was “ using” Anna, consider that you would let your rich friend pay for things if they insisted and you knew they could . It’s like Anna was sort of grooming Rachel to later on violate her….to trust her, feel comfortable with her, her love bombing was her buying her an all expense paid vacations and spa dates.
I disagree that it was ok for the friend to go along for the ride and not know what was happening, she should've either done more research or gotten to know her friend more before going on that type of international trip. It reminds me of the first woman on tinder swindler who went on a private jet immediately after the first date with that guy. I don't fault either of them for being conned, but you gotta be smarter than this and protect yourself.
Okay maybe that was what Anna was doing but Rachel is still an opportunist because she took tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars with the free stuff for Anna for 2 years and I bet you that million dollars that Rachel made out of all this and not even having to pay the bill so $1,062,000 that Rachel would have never been her friend if she hadn't been paying for everything so Rachel didn't get her just deserves for being an opportunist but Anna did. Let's not forget Anna had 10 counts against her she was found guilty on seven of the three she was found not guilty on one was defrauding Rachel so a jury says Rachel's not a victim and she wasn't defrauded. Also, people on Wall Street and bankers and people like Rachel defraud and milk people all the time.
The interview is just focusing on a tiny bit. She scammed club owners, many hotels, security companies and even celebrities. Apparently she borrowed from people to pay off others and fund a lifestyle.
A lesson I learned the hard way when I was twenty- do not loan anyone money unless you can accept you will not get it back. If I loan a friend money, I always am capable of not getting it in return. I know that is not what loaning means; but you have to be able to handle not getting it back. If you can't then you won't loan.
I agree but I think in her situation she was probably scared of what would happen if they didn’t pay especially being in a foreign country. But still Anna didn’t ask her to pay either …
It was American Express... no limit. When she said the card in the clip, I thought it would be clear that it's how the charge went through yet so many keep asking what card has that limit... many cards do.
Alot of people do but that doesn't mean you should use it all . Unless you can pay it back on time which I doubt you could unless you're like making Millions
That girl was in a sense a user of her supposed rich heiress friend. She’s just mad she got played. 🤣🤣 ppl like her exist and take advantage of their rich friends. Jokes on her but luckily she got out of paying it
Exactly. Look at her body language in the beginning, it looks like bracing for the backlash. She opens up when talking about when she was scammed. Also how do you get American express to protect you from hotel fees? Maybe she wasn't truthful either.
Rachel seemed happy enough to be around Anna, as long as she was paying for everything, but as soon as Anna's money dried up, so did Rachel's loyalty. She definitely gives "frenemie" vibes, and she's doing so well out of the situation, given how "badly" Anna treated her!
"I'm so upset the court didn't rule in my favor" but also "I didn't have to pay it since American Express protected me". I agree she's benefiting considering that she was hanging around Anna for the perks, didn't have to pay off the hotel in the end (it's not like Anna stole the card and went without Rachel, she was there too), and she's getting money with the book and adaption deal.
I felt bad about the situation being out of the country because if it was in the US, the situation would be different. But you don't go to these countries and play these games. Anna obviously didn't care because as a narcissist you have to hit rock bottom but will still get up and pretend nothing happened. Those men meant business. Imagine going to a foreign prison over this bill. And you know Anna would turn on her and leave her to rot in prison if it's to her advantage.
''Sorokin offered her an all-expenses-paid trip to Morocco'' If you agree on that, you deserve this... I trust my friends and we pay for each other sometimes, but if you are all in to live off your friend, then you are sad person yourself...In trips you go 50/50.
@Bill Blass Bitch, don't take everything so serious. There are different types of friends and offers. I was talking about this instance, where this chick expected to live off her ''friend'', someone she barely knew. Calm down.
J K Luther it is because she is well ‘behaved’. Wasps dont show emotions like commoners dont you know. She s not fake, her composure is pretty much how she was brought up
well remember, she didn't have to pay for the bill. and because of Anna involving her in this, she now has a story to make profit off of. At the end of the day Anna made her richer, and shes happy!
I think it's weird to accept money or gifts from a person you barely know. Even if it's a female, there is no way I will feel comfortable accepting gifts, free travel or whatever that is. I will fell like a useless person if I do that.
Anna Delvey doesn't look expensive & looks like she takes a subway and she has split ends according to some people who met her which was a dead giveaway. This editor/friend is a freeloader and greedy. Anna saw it and scammed her. Don't feel sorry for her!
I had some 'old friends' once who tried to pull this same crap on me. I offered my apologies to them for finding themselves in such an awkward predicament, but that I only had enough 'cash' on me to pay for my own expenses. Moral of the story ..choose your friends wisely 🌹
Rolling my eyes at everyone in the comment section acting like they wouldn't accept a paid for international trip from someone they thought was a (much richer) friend. Suuuure you wouldn't.
Just because they’re rich doesn’t mean you should take advantage, even if they offer. A lot of people wouldn’t feel comfortable always having a “friend” pay for everything. It wasn’t just the trip. It was drinks, yoga, and all sorts of other things.
I really need to know how can someone be ok with letting her friend paying for restaurant, hotels, clubs and even cloths and everything else and the only time you have to pay for something you call it a nightmare and make a big drama out of it! How can someone be ok with going to an expensive trip and expect someone else to pay for it! Im glad everything turned out great for you at the end but in a healthy friendship or relationship both two people should pay for everything and do not expect the other person to pay all the time!!!
I don't see Rachel as a victim at all I see her as a huge opportunist. That's what's with the fake smile the whole painful interview. She was an opportunist and letting Anna pay for tens and tens and tens of thousands worth of stuff over a two year period. She tried to be an opportunist by going on this lavish all expense a vacation. Her credit card debt had already been wiped and she was in no danger of having to repay it when she set up the sting to get Anna to leave rehab so she could be arrested in extradited. Then she was an opportunist after that by selling her story all over the place and writing articles for vanity Fair. Interesting how she worked for vanity Fair then cooperated in a sting even though she wasn't in financial debt and she was in no danger of losing her job or having to repay the credit card and should have been in no financial problems and then cooperates and get a sting that gets an arrested and extra guided and an article with Rachel's pictures the author in it appears in vanity Fair. I know we all like the good guy bad guy scenario but there's a lot of Anna in a lot of people and I don't really see Rachel or Anna as any different. Bottom line the jury had no problem convicting Anna on a lot of charges and they found her not guilty of the charge regarding Rachel. I think the only reason Rachel was mad about that outcome is because it does bring into question the legitimacy of her actions and her story.
Yes you’re right but at same time sometimes you can have a friend pay for something to do with us at the wrong with that there is why I say that sometimes you know like my families they pay money and I don’t know if they were like people in there I don’t really go out a whole lot because I don’t have a lot of money but it’s nothing wrong with having somebody pay or whatever and I don’t take money from people that’s why I don’t like going out if I can’t afford this or things I don’t like going out but there’s nothing wrong with somebody paying something to hold. It depends on the price to but nothing wrong with that you’re making a statement like this on the wrong with. No it’s not actually sometimes you can pay it And be equal thing or San Jose pays enough to pay they could be that too if he has her only idea friendship sure but it could be both. You don’t have to be half all the time. Yes it can be sometimes but yeah because of your friendship, but I don’t need it as a bad thing I was with Pain and if somebody office a piece of her things oh yeah, don’t make it bad Specially if they’re all fine, I’m a do you have to take it now like again like I said, depends on what it is but you have till the same things from Walmart and mostly which is offered but I don’t like to because for most part that’s why she says I have a family I’m a want you do it for because I don’t ask for anything I don’t really ask for anything I don’t want anything and she has a hard time convincing me sometimes you do certain things or letting her buy for certain things because I keep saying no but and then I always feel bad about it but she knows I’ll do it for her to listen if she need help that’s why she does it. She knows I’ll help her, but she needs help, but again it’s not bad to have you to sometimes you’re friendly face and I wish you could pay. There’s nothing wrong with that you don’t have to always pay half now if it’s a hotel stay then yeah I should be happy to pay your share and they should pay their share. I believe that’s what I believe for a hotel stay well if you want to eat or hang out with Page that has a bang you know again like I said some hasn’t been, my cousin goes out there and you know like last time my cousin paid you know for us, because we always take turns.
Amex covered it. The real “hardship” was being humiliated. The player got played. Now earned upwards of 630k. What has she turned around or recovered from? A lavish time and a ticket to ride?!
It’s strange that Rachel told the interviewer that Anna got away with it because she’s a young, white female. Okay, Rachel, bring race into it. Anna got away with it because of her sociopathic charm. And her intelligence. But Rachel wants to claim it was based on race to a black interviewer. What the hell, Rachel?
Rachel and other VF employees were laid off later on. She didn’t lose her job because of Anna. But I agree: she is milking this. She’s been on numerous shows, giving numerous interviews about this. She wrote a book and has a deal with HBO. It sucks what she went through, but it’s not like Anna stole her credit cards or tried to murder her in Morocco. I’m not sure what to think of Rachel.
I don’t get why people are mad at Rachel about that. Rachel definitely was the victim, and she never did anything wrong. Who cares if it ended up being a big story and she got a book deal, that’s not her fault
Are you stupid??? Have you heard about knowledge? If someone tells you that will buy you stuff, its a gift, you can accept it. Other context is called embezzlement. If your willing isnt free, it's not a willing...thats SO basic!!! Sad that your parents didnt teach you EMPATHY
@@Belleant no but would u have gone on an all expense paid trip, let ur friend buy u expensive stuff even though u nvr met that friend for long? Wouldnt that be sus? Like maybe its ok if its your best friend since you were young but???? They aint even know each other for that long
I would never let my friend take me on an all expense paid trip. My best friend and I travel and always split things 50/50. Sounds to me, like Anna took advantage of people who are elitists and expect perks from other rich people. I know I couldn’t afford a 5 star trip so I wouldn’t have accepted a trip like that even if my friend offered to pay. I don’t like to owe anyone anything. I don’t want to feel like a beggar.
I'm shocked to see the comments here. Let's be clear here: Anna stablished a friendship and was the one that gave, voluntarily, lots of dinners and goodies to Rachel. She stablished a solid economic situation. Many reach people that have less wealthy friends tend to (sometimes) pay for expensive experience in order to live them with their less fortunate friends, otherwise they would only hangout with their other rich friends... and you know that's not always a good thing. So when they went to their trip and suddenly both where in a situation that you have to resolve or your friend (or maybe everyone) ended up in jail, you TRUST that friend will be able to pay, more after they stablished they can. And think about it objectively: Anna offered the trip, all included, and they accepted in those terms. Rachel did what anyone would do in that situation. Now here's the problem: After Rachel paid, Anna kept giving excuses, living her hanging around with the promise of payment instead of just telling her she won't be able to pay. That's the issue. Anna didn't gave an F what would happen to that "friend". The only thing Rachel is guilty is for accepting those many things for free from her friend and of course, compromising her job's credit card (not her personal, she can do what ever she wants with that). Anna is no hero, she's not "justified" as the Netflix series present her. She doesn't care of anyone who cares for her, and yes, that's a sociopath. If I found myself in the same situation I would do the same. And yes, I would also capitalize in that nightmare. Not only cos it was true, but also I have to demonstrate I was mugged by a friend that happens to have almost got US$20 MM from a bank and lied to many other business people. Anna didn't care, she still don't care (look at 60 Minutes interview), she even don't care that we care hahaha. I hope you don't cross roads with someone like her.
So I’ve got to admit- I dont actually feel sorry for any of these people. When this case was first presented, they said it like- she broke out onto the social scene, and hung out with New York’s socialites and “high society”. But she’s not as rich as she says she is. She’s a fraud. Like- who really is who they say they are? Rich people were swindled because they spent time with someone who isn’t rich. Poor them. Also, the friend who thought she was getting a free $60,000 stay? Get real. She was the one who was using the Ana, and then she ended up having to pay. It’s kinda interesting- it’s an interesting glimpse into the minds of people who believe money is everything.
Here's the other thing she would throw lavish dinners pay the bill & then ask for people who enjoyed her expensive hospitality for a place to stay for the night & everybody would say no and she slept in her car. This was before everything broke. I can't help but feel like I understand how she came to be so hard. Did anybody ever think that maybe she really did just want to be cared about and liked and she spent years trying to buy people who then continued to be leeches. So, she got hard & cold & felt they got what they deserved. Obviously, it's not healthy to try and buy people's love and affection, but, as someone who lost their parents at a young age and then have no living relatives by the time I was 20 and to have some inheritance money I went through a phase where I did that because I was so alone in the world and scared didn't feel like people would love me if I couldn't do for them. A person who's in that space tends to attract really horrible, cold-hearted, lecherous people.
That being said, while it’s not necessarily nice or good manners to take advantage of a rich girl and have her constantly foot all the bills, dealing with a sociopath is an experience that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Having dealt with it myself; the emotional and psychological anguish that ensues trumps having your friend foot a personal trainer or some drinks any day of the week. The two wrongs are completely incomparable. Sure people are right to criticize her leeching on one hand, but compared to what sorokin did - it’s basically child’s plays.
There is a difference between taking advantage of someone by inviting them to places expecting them to pay for everything and them buying you things on their own.
Not really because she never had to be in that situation in the first place of giving her credit card. She's a complete opportunist. She's really not that much different than Anna I think she just played a better game. Anna paid for tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff for her over 2 years and never took a thing and Rachel never offered her anything never bought her a gift never wrote her a thank you card and she was all set to take a lavish $60,000 vacation on someone else's dime. She had the debt forgiven by Amex before she cooperated in the sting and I think it's kind of ironic that she worked for vanity Fair was in no danger of losing her job and in no financial debt yet cooperated in a sting that got Anna to leave rehab so she could be extradited and suddenly an article that she authored which never authored anything prior in her life appeared in vanity Fair and she slapped her picture in there as the writer not at all trying to keep a low profile and then was an opportunist by selling her story over and over and over again. Let's not forget the jury found Anna guilty on a lot of serious crimes that had the potential to have her incarcerated for 12 years of her life and they found her not guilty of defrauding Rachel. So this little interview is spin because she needs her book to continue to do well and the movie option continue to do well and all of that money coming in. Seems to me Rachel made out like a bandit she got tens and tens of thousands worth of dollars worth of free stuff from Anna got her vacation bill wiped clean and made about a million after. My point is is that Rachel would have never been Anna's friend for so long putting up with her attitude or whatever if Anna hadn't been paying for everything all the time and so Rachel was a participant because she wanted the free stuff and the free training sessions and the free nights out more than she wanted to take care of her own personal health and that is completely on her and now she's crying victim she didn't even have to pay it did she voluntarily pay the money after she made the $600,000 to Amex and say look I end up making money on this I know you wiped it but how about I go ahead and pay that bill no.
Anna is a narcissist. So putting on and taking advantage is her thing. Anna knew more or less from the beginning that she was eventually going to use her. She looks for people like her. The mistake this girl made was she didn't ask any questions and went with this care free style. Not realizing this care free person lacked maturity. People sadly get into these relationships (boyfriend/girlfriend, spouse, family, "friend" that never pays bills, booty calls, pull heart strings for sympathy) all the time and you always pay for trusting them.
Rachael did this to herself..... she could've said no at anytime. There's no way anyone could scam me out of 62k. The way they portrayed her in the series is how she really is. She wasn't forced to put the charges on her cards.... this was her fault for not thinking....
You don't think the hotel staff showing up to your room demanding a working credit card is not being forced? they were in a foreign country and Anna kept saying she'd come up with the money. Obviously the staff was not going to accept a card from Anna so Rachel felt she had to do it. Nothing was supposed to be charged to her card anyway, it was just a hold until Anna could get her money wired in. Money Anna was flat out lying about. It's easy to say you wouldn't have used your card but if you were trapped in a foreign hotel with the staff threatening to call the police...what would you do?
4:37 "If she did this to me and I was her friend..." She was never your friend. That's how sociopaths work. They play the part, get what they're after, and feel no remorse.
I think I must be the only person that is on Rachel's side. Sure she enjoyed Anna's 'gifts' but she also genuinely believed Anna was her best friend. Rachel is not a sociopath and was there for her friend however she could be, even if it wasn't in a monetary role. If her best friend offers to take Rachel somewhere fun why not go? I am happy Rachel was able to benefit from this in the end.
Absolutely right. These idiots on here are cheering the psychopath and criticizing the one who made the best out of a really bad situation. I can see why the world is going down the toilet.
I agree. And I don’t get why people keep saying that Anna was paying for everything that Rachel was getting when she didn’t even pay a dime and was just charging it to her room n stuff. Then anna didn’t even feel bad when she used Rachel’s cards to pay for it.
Can’t help but notice she is smiling ear to ear during the interview. She doesn’t sound in distress. She knew what she was doing when she went on the trip.
The supposed "friend" was not poor... Let's not get it twisted.... she was not poor, she was however happy for her seemingly very wealthy friend to use her money instead of helping out herself...
Because friends sometimes do that. When I was working and my friend was in between jobs, I paid for our vacation together (I paid travel expenses in one way + rented the house at the resort, she paid for travel back). When you take a bunch of people on a vacation, then don't pay and one of them is forced to step in, while you PROMISE TO PAY THEM BACK but don't pay them back, it turns into a crime. I blame prosecutors for not hitting on this point more.
Just because Rachel had some good things come out from the experience she had with Anna doesn't mean she didn't experience REAL trauma. I'm happy for Rachel, she deserves to have good things happening. Rachel needed to get the main character of her life back and I would have done the same as she did.
Trauma is not this. She is profiting of all of this and is playing the victim card. She was no victim. She was milking Anna and was with her just because she assumed she was rich, not because she liked her. She was fake as Anna, but at least Anna was honest about it, this b* pretends to be a victim.
@@mikatu you would have to go through this to see how you feel not been able to pay for your rent, and you’re about to loose your job and everything because of this debt !!! How would you feel if your “friend” does this to you??
@@colibri4676 you mean she had a panic attack.?? Because in the end she came out more then fine. She didn't once think anything of another person spending enormous amounts of 💰 on her. So yeah this isn't trauma. This was a oh sh* t what just happened. Real people live in real poverty everyday. Can't afford rent and basic necessities and will lose their job because they can't get to work on time when they lose their home and car. Not because they went on a european vacation they couldn't afford. Or because they abused their work credit cards by charging an amount they didn't have permission for. This was a panic attack for not making good decisions and getting "just desserts" for being as much of a fake friend as the wanna be heiress
I’m not loaded but I have taken friends on holiday and paid for the accommodation because it been part of my deal. I invited them on my holiday and therefore had no problems paying that bill. However if my friend wanted to go to expensive attractions while on holiday and expected me to also pay for that I’d definitely feel like that was taking liberties. Based on how it was portrayed on Netflix it did seem like the friend expected Anna to also pay for her sight seeing trip - which from memory was not cheap by any means. That’s the one thing that mostly stuck in my mind.
This woman is just as much a player. She leveraged her loss. You learn something new, sweet-sounding, "I'm the victim...but try to see the good in people" type people can just be as awful if not worse.
Being a sociopath and a scammer are not necessarily mutually exclusive. It takes a sociopath to scam on this level. Plus sociopaths get away with it because of their charm, which helps them dupe victims.
She´s clearly a sociopath. There´s no doubt about it. She has no remorse about having hurt people or made them look like fools. Just because she fooled people who were wealthy, it doesn't mean they didn't have feelings.
@@N0N4M30 She can be both. There can be overlap between sociopathy and narcissism. Her behavior in court displayed narcissism, but sociopathy is her key trait. Sociopaths are scheming, charming, pathological liars, and of course they lack remorse and guilt - that is not identical to narcissism. I recommend you have a look at her 60 Minutes interview.
Anna is a typical of most Narcissists. They 'love bomb' by giving those around them lavish gifts to reel them in, and that's how she made her friends, and could manipulate them. Then she devalued and discarded them when they were of no use to her. Narcs also treat those whom they feel are subordinate to them badly, for example waiters, shop assistants etc. They are also grandiose and entitled, just as Anna is, and we can see examples of all this in her reported behaviour.
I know how she feels... I had a guy who I liked, scammer online took $8000 from me, know I was a student with student loan. Video chatted with him and he made it seem like he was in rough place losing his job in US as an immigrant. Also, he told to me to invest in BTC for our future and the platform I invested in was not legit. So, I never gave him the money directly but, actuality it went to a fake platform. They groom you by treating you, shows you love/compassion and then, acts emotionally abusive. That is ten times worse than what Rachel went through but, I do support you. These kind of people hurt others at all cost, make fake relationships
Yep technically any company can bill your card for ANY amount, once you give the the initial authorization. I've seen this happen too many times when people drop their cell phone contracts and then are alarmed that their credit card is thousands of dollars over their limit.
How are there so many comments dragging Rachel? Are we watching the same video? I don’t see anything wrong with Rachel that would merit all these personal attacks. She seems like a sweet, normal person. If you’re frustrated with her success following this incident, do you also resent influencers? Every person who has written a memoir? Every non-celebrity who has appeared on talk shows for a unique experience? SMH
Is Rachel Williams benefiting from what happened? Probably but the difference is this. Rachel is selling something she actually has, the rights to her story. Why do so many people have a problem with that? She is making a good-faith transaction with willing purchasers and is actually providing them with the promised product
I'm glad she is capitalizing off of this. Anna never intended to pay for that trip. She played her friends by offering this free trip. Now, I would have never offered my card to someone who is having card trouble but I know she didn't expect her friend to do this. So I'm glad she helped get her arrested and is making money from this.
Girl the reason why she's smirking at you is because she knows at the very beginning that you're a user as well, but now you're the one who's using her, a movie huh?
I can't believe how harsh these comments are towards rachel for accepting a free trip when someone offers. If I had a friend who was a multi millionaire who invited me on a trip and i said sorry no it's not in my budget and she said she would pay I would accept it. How is that a crime wow. now that being said I have no rich friends like this hahahahah but in a hypothetical world if I did I would 100% go. It's not a crime to accept a gift from someone else.
@@stayroxy “Oh they’ve been friends for just a couple of months now and she was treated with all expense paid getaway to Morocco, that Rachel girl truly isn’t after Anna’s money”. Sure.
Honestly, what kind of a person would feel comfortable never paying for dinners, outings, spa days and vacations. A true friend and a decent person would at least offer to pitch in or pay some of the time. Most people I know would feel gross and a leech if not given the chance to pitch in
I agree after watching the netflix series. I have even less sympathy for Rachel. She never paid for anything!! Even the Moroccan gardens. Plus the way she was publicly presenting as a victim, whilst negotiating movie and book deals didnt sit well with me.
I think Anna wanted to portrait that’s she very wealthy, offering to pay for everything. Is it Anna’s fault for booking a $7000 per night room when she clearly didn’t have the money.
@@andreweats8888 It’s Anna’s fault obviously…. BUT again, if I were Rachel, I wouldn’t be comfortable accepting that kind of offer from a friend, especially if I considered myself a real friend. 1.) Anna is known to say she doesn’t work, and that she pretty much “relies financially from her father” 2.) I may be too skeptical or practical, but I always think if S#iT hits the fan (some bad luck or whatever) and my rich friend can’t cover the bill, I don’t want to be in a situation where I can’t help cover the bill 3.) You just simply don’t ask, expect or take anything that you, yourself can’t or won’t give/do in return if the situation is reverse. It’s a way of keeping the dynamics of your relationships balanced so that noone feels taken for granted or used.
I don’t understand how people don’t feel bad for her. Like yeah maybe she just shouldn’t have given her card in the first place but she and everybody else believed that she had money so I understand how that happened. And I’m pretty sure the odds of her getting so much money out of the situation was super low, it just so happened that people got really interested in this story and monetizing it was actually possible. Getting scammed out of a whole $60k must have been scary af but I’m glad it all turned out well in the end
Rachel! This is NOT your story! She did nos suffer anything at the end ! Amex covered everything and now you are selling books movies! You ate benefitting from Anna
I felt bad about the situation being out of the country because if it was in the US, the situation would be different. But you don't go to these countries and play these games. Anna obviously didn't care because as a narcissist you have to hit rock bottom but will still get up and pretend nothing happened. Those men meant business. Imagine going to a foreign prison over this bill. And you know Anna would turn on her and leave her to rot in prison if it's to her advantage.
Thought she was using Anna when in reality she was being used. Sounds like two girls trying to use each other.
I agree.
Yes, just a game of cat and mouse
Yep. She's all smiling and and all.
Karma
powerralley they used each other’s Pandora’s boxes
She was attracted to her, because she thought she was very rich. She accepted very expensive gifts, without even hesitation. She seems like a fake friend. And now, she even wants to make money out of that so called "friendship". A fake friend got played well. Of course, that doesn't justify Annas behaviour at all, but it just shows how greedy and fake people can be, when they smell money.
Max Mustermann exactly
Max Mustermann , agree
Exactly
At the end of the day they both used each other🤷🏽♀️
Couldn't agree more
I see a lot of similarities between the real Rachel and the Rachel in “Inventing Anna”, I think the Director did a great job in casting.
Yea I’m sure that was the goal🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Yes, she wasn't completely some naive little sweetheart who didn't know any better.
The Rachel in the show looks and sounds older compared to the real one.
I was so annoyed by Rachel in the series so I looked up the original and I thought "spot on casting ".
i heard real neff helped them in the series
I don't feel sorry for this girl, she is also an opportunist
Fabiola Davila exactly. She used Anna for what she thought she could give her.
Fabiola Davila no she was groomed
@Stop Pretending I am Not An Obtuse Triangle...Right if you're a con artist & you get conned you don't get mad. You chalk it up to the game, move on & not bitch about it. Anna ain't shit. Rachel ain't shit either.
And there we go folks, the typical judgement comment by a self righteous person blaming the victim. A 5 minute snippet video and that is enough to form a well thought out assessment?
@@soundboardist ...nobody is saying that being an opportunist is illegal? nobody is saying throw Rachel in jail. they're just making it clear that she's not a fucking victim either.
Rachel gives me a "fake person" vibe..
She's a wannabe rich in New York fishing for rich friends to live her best insta life.....need I say more?
@@prg4647 lmao true😂😂😂
Same here
She seems pretty normal to me, a fairly normal girly girl feminine type young women. Unfortunately those super girly girls tend to be bad at character judgement and, well, here we are.
I was always told you are the company you keep.
Gives interviews, writes book and signs TV deals worth $600k on how she was duped for $62k. Wow!! Not everybody is lucky to have such bad days 😂
Gal I wish I cud have this bad day,this scam was an investment she just didn’t know 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She deserve to get 10 fold for her original loss. She wanted to help a friend and she got scammed
True that. Girl needs to be ensconced ASAP in a white-shoe, leafy Connecticut suburb with a Goldman Sachs husband and three kids no more than 2 years apart.
@@lauratroi3324 I mean if I went on a vacation with friends no matter how filthy rich they are I would pay my own bills and I wouldn’t go on a vacation that I cannot even afford, just because my rich friend can pay for me
About time she paid something she never paid for anything- she should be an actress too
My real question is, how could you be comfortable with someone else paying tens of thousands of dollars for your vacation? I would stay in a motel before allowing that. Sounds like the user got used.
I have a wealth friend… she has bought me stuff. I would do the same if things were reversed.
Yes user got used! She was taking advanced from her Fake friend. See??
Exactly!!
She is not innocent.
Yeah, the user got used. They are all playing their own game.
Never trust someone who buys you expensive gifts and offers to pay for everything... there's always a catch. Either they're expecting something in return (consciously or unconsciously) or they're just straight up scamming you. Severely unbalanced relationships are dangerous.
You don't know many wealthy people lol.
@@LeeoGoneWild I do, actually. That's how I learned this lesson.
Spot on...
Lee;O Gone Wild rich people have been known to stiff people who they hire quite a lot
@@jfm14 Words of wisdom! Severely unbalanced relationships truly are toxic across the board. Typically, the person who is doing all the giving starts to behave as though they own the person they're giving to. They also tend to become controlling, manipulative, and extremely arrogant. They give you the world, you owe them your soul and all your rights. No joke.
What I love about Anna’s trial is that it really exposes the rich people and how they are influenced by money even by someone who didn’t have any. It all about looks and money. Major props to Anna although she did deserve the counts
Looks, money and power have always influenced people. That's nothing new. Unless you were born yesterday.
I worked at a magazine in the aughts in NYC right before Anna hit the scene and the ENTIRE industry and related industries were ALLLLL about spectable so it is NOT shocking AT ALL Anna conned SO many .
I love NYC but those types of people she conned aren't worthy or idolatry or professional respect. It's all fake.
And the way Rachel smiles throughout, yeah, she wasn't hurting maybe except she lost a friend who gave her fancy things.
You talk as if people didn't already know that lol! You're talking as if Anna is the first person in the world to figure out that money and looks influence people. Anna is a scam artist and if anyone was exposed in this whole debacle, its Anna. She lied, she manipulated people that called her "Friends".. wrote fake checks, stayed endless nights at hotels without paying, pretending to be her father through a voice changing app, lying to banks to get loans. perfect definition of a scammer. There are 3 kinds of people I REALLY don't like in this world, Rapists, child molesters and scammers so please next time don't start a sentence with "what I like about Anna" then proceed to mention something everyone is aware of.
@@unprocessed_life yes, you're absolutely right. Never has a person smiled when they didn't feel well in the history of time.
Smile = good
tear = bad
Welcome to kindergarten
Anna doesn’t even look like a socialite, she looks like a normal middle class girl
it's not necessary to look the part but rather act the part
She was a middle class girl, but she knew and understood how to look like she was wealthier than she was.
Smiley's Multimedia She didn’t look wealthy by any standards lol.
Anna looks rough
Lol she really conned a bunch of rich people its hilarious 😂
2 fake humans together...what the hell you expect lol
Stop victim blaming. She was groomed and seduced by a narcissist sociopath.
Srirra Cha it's both really
😂😂😂😂
All day fake meet fake is beautiful
She’s a grown ass woman. She is not a victim.
To share something “so deeply personal” was devastating yet she wrote a book about it for the public
She was drowing in $60,000 worth of debt and accepted $300k to tell her story and begin anew.
And got her whole credit card bill wiped clean so she didn't even have to suffer the financial pain she alleges. She was not under duress and willingly gave over her acrds. That's on her. It's tough but that's life.
@@tarawalsh-arpaia3928 true she did not absolutely have to give up her cards. It was her choice at the end of the day!
@@tarawalsh-arpaia3928 when did her credit get wiped clean exactly? You people are absolute monsters.
Why are we monsters her card debt was wiped clean and she wrote a vanity Fair article with her picture in it as the author before Anna even went on trial. I'm not saying Anna's at all right in a lot of instances but this Rachel person is horrendous she took tens and tens of thousands of dollars worth of dinners gifts drinks clothes from Anna over 2 years and made way over $600,000.
It was such a painful experience that it was brand new and she wrote a vanity Fair article about it.
You know she's fake because she says that share this on such a public scale and not be the takeaway that the jury didn't believe she was conned was so painful but she'd already written a vanity Fair article with her own picture in as the author of the article so everyone would know who she was.
I think what was painful about the not guilty decision is that it cause people to question her reputation and her side of the story.
So she found out her friend was actually poor...
Earla Weese 😢 sad
Lol and friendship ended🤷🏾🤷🏾😂😂stupid...rich people deserve things like this from time to time....karma
And a liar.
And she literally cried.
That's why she dumped her , and he is not a real friend , she let her in prison n also spend money on her amex that not even was hers , she must pay n apologize to Anna for not being a friend
I don't like this woman being interviewed. At all!
That perma grin is unatural and creepy.
You don't know her lol
Laura P she looks like a Christmas Hallmark movie actress lol over the top and fake af!!
Ronnie J who cares lol why do you need to proclaim this to the world. Over compensating for something perhaps, hm? 🤔 🍆 😂
While she’s telling this “traumatic” “painful” story, she’s smiling the whole time.
She’s an idiot! Not a victim! Amex took care of the $70K! And she’s made hundreds of thousands off of Anna’s back!!
Its called coping mechanism. You can tell she’s uncomfortable by her body language.
People have different coping mechanisms
It’s coping mechanism, I do that when I am uncomfortable, angry or nervous or when I am not sure how to react to some of my emotions.
Yes, she is faking
Uhm you didn't even get charged the amount and you went on a trip for free? You used her just as much and now your profiting from all of this with a book and movie deal. I'm glad the jury didn't award you any money!!
And she dispute the transaction so her she got her money back!!!!
She did get charged the amount on her credit card. Everyone if your best friend who was super rich said come with me for a all expenses paid trip you would jump at the chance she is guilty of being naive then scared of being stuck in another country
@@debadev2179 yes but she had coverage and they fixed it. So no she didnt really have to pay in the end. She is the reason that girls in jail!
Jawbreaker Snack actually that girl is in jail because she scammed a lot of businesses. As they say the Jury didn’t feel pity for the girl, so if they charged Ana (or whatever her name is) it wasn’t for “scamming” her friend it was for scamming many businesses.
@@ivanlouche5421 Don't act like you wouldn't happily go on a trip if your friend offered to take you to a place that was way out of your budget.
Rachel has that constant smile on her face while telling the story like she enjoys the attention!
That and knowing how much money she will make telling her story.
Y'all are weird
I think she is trying to look like "nice" and no humiliated like she really was..
It’s been years, at some point you can talk with a friendly smile about bad experiences
Because she's a social climber
It’s tricky to have sympathy over her. She literally made fortune over this scandal. Both of these women should never be patronised.
It's not tricky normal middle class folks get scammed and no one seems to care except when it happens to the elite. Then the justice system wants to do something about it
Anna is a criminal. Rachel made a dumb mistake and was caught up in hanging around someone she thought was rich. But Anna is a CRIMINAL. The lawyer saying she didn’t have to put her credit card down…had she not Rachel AND Anna would’ve been in Morocco jail.
I’m not saying I feel bad for Rachel, but I see people focusing on Rachel and not Anna, ya know the criminal.
What she went through, if the account of how things unfolded is accurate, must have been extremely stressful both on the day the hotel incident happened and afterwards when her life was falling apart. Just because she eventually managed to turn things around, doesn't mean that what she went through wasn't terrible. And when you go through such a traumatic experience, that can have a serious impact on you for the rest of your life (lack of trust in people, etc.).
I agree just let her have her fortune and be happy pwease
how is it tricky? her "friend" scammed her out of $60k...and it was on her work's company card. Even if she offered the card, Anna deceived her the entire time; she was never going to pay. Try being $60k in debt overnight and see how fast your life crumbles. She is the victim and did the right thing, plain and simple.
She made a book, got interviews and now a movie... I’m sure she doing alright 🤣
Who really used who.
Whom
and her credit card company protected her from the $62, 000 + charge
What movie
She’s still smiling throughout the entire interview 🤔
like she said, she ultimately turned a negative into a positive. I'm not gonna fault her for that
Who cares? She didn’t even have to pay it! let’s hear a REAL tragedy
Bella Katherman and she still got to enjoy a vacation
Alex Jay she didn’t. why would she? that’s the point
@@elliremi3154 She didn't enjoy it 😬
Yea it was a free holiday I would be grateful to have all the free holidays and the great stories to tell
So Rachel thought she was scamming Anna but Anna was scamming Rachel! 🤣😂
exactly !!!!!
Accepting gifts from someone that offered it to you isn't a scam.
But in the end, Rachel won. She had all her fun without having to pay and did not go to jail for it. She also has a lot of attention and a book deal and did not suffer any consequences. I think she is maybe as much of a psychopath as Anna. She just did not get caught.
@@Mondoshawn Much respect to her, she turned a bad situation into profit. I'm actually glad she was able to bounce back from it. There's nothing about her that shows she's a psychopath. Accepting gifts from someone that offer them to you doesnt make you crazy. She did absolutely nothing wrong.
@@Mondoshawn Ok so Anna lied about her identity, how much money she had. Anna lied to banks, hotels etc.. But Rachel is the problem? All Rachel did was try to help Anna by putting up her own credit card when Anna got in trouble with the hotel. If Rachel was smart she would have kept her card in her purse - but if she had done that you would have called her a bad friend anyway. The way I see it Anna lied to Rachel, Anna lied to the hotel. Anna knew how much money Rachel had because Rachel had something Anna did not have and that was a LEGIT JOB! Rachel was just working and trying to make it in NYC like a normal person.
Amex covered her bill,Anna is going to jail and she got her face on every dumb news show a book and a movie deal,who's scam artist?
Mark Patterson lol ikr 😸
Sitting there smiling while trying to look like a victim
Amex only covered the charge for the villa. She was still held financially responsible for the flights as well as the money she loaned Anna in Morocco.
And she’s smiling out of nervousness and politeness. Come on, y’all.
@@katiechisholm and yet she was hoping that Ana would have covered her flight as well as the whole trip. If you come to think of it, it's basically money that she owed ana for all the lavish diners and hangouts that Ana herself financed during their friendship. This girl is a user and thought she had won the lotto when she striked the rich friendship. A fake, basic bitch
Rachel Williams gets no sympathy from me. The courts agree. This girls wasn’t scammed. She was fine when Anna was paying for her clothes, spa treatments, elaborate trips. American Express did not even charge her. What is she out. And now she has profited from a book, movie, and interviews. An opportunist playing like a victim.
Ok, so a friend invites you to dinner at a fancy restaurant and you say, gee, "I'd love to go but I can't afford that place. So she says "I'll treat - I make four times what you make, you deserve a treat. I'm having lobster - what will you have?" Your friend orders a bottle of wine for the table. Then she says "We should get dessert!" Then when the bill comes, your friend slips out the back the back door and stiffs you with the bill. A bill she knew damn well you couldn't afford in the first place. As you're explaining your situation to the server, you over hear a couple at the next table snicker and say "I guess it's karma for taking advantage of her friend." You're quite confused by this as you're the one stuck with the bill and your so called friend snuck out on you. If you have no sympathy for Rachel, then you are in Anna's camp. Anna has never apologized nor showed any remorse for what she has done. In the end Anna was the only one who lied about her money, her intent to pay and even her identity. What did Rachel lie about?
@cortezconquistador the girl never had to pay the credit card company back. This is ridiculous she was not out anything.
When she said that at the end that charge was refuted I was like WTF?!
So if I have an American Express I can go to a luxury hotel pay with it then refute it? The way to refute it at the bank to say that her (Rachel’s) card was stolen or her card information was stolen online… which is a lie because she did spend that holiday in the hotel, even though under the pretense that Anna is was paying for it.
No surprise that her claim had little to no legal foundation
Wait, how does someone who makes less than $62k have more than $62k credit limit.
You’re not worth what you’re credit limit is as the money available to you in credit isn’t yours.
I think I read somewhere that it was a company credit card, but I'm not sure. It is possible to get a credit limit that's higher than your income, though.
It was American Express. There is no limit.
If you have good credit history, the sky is the limit.
@Maiden Laura 3
Rachel is that sweet girl who really in reality was using Anna too. You attract what you are!
Exactly she was just as fake as Anna was from the start 🙄
Yea nice genuine people don't tend to get swept up in these dramas. It's quite easy to avoid
People here are so harsh on the friend. Like y’all wouldn’t accept a trip from a good trusted friend whose idea it was in the first place who swims in money so it doesn’t mean anything to her. Ppl judge her for writing a book and not even having to pay the bill but she prob thought she was in serious debt for a long time! Hell I would write a book too it was always my dream to do it so props to her. Oh and she could probably be smiling bc of nerves.
Exactly. Like Anna scamming and pushing her friend under the bus is no big deal. But if you write your story what happened to you its betraying a friend. Hello?! Its exactly the opposite of what happened. It was Anna who betrayed her friend big time and she profited from her and she did it first to turn on her friend! 🤦
I mean she did get her arrested, made a book, and has an hbo series worth 600% more than what Anna owed her. I can see why people are mad
@@kevinwilliams6281 but she got her arrested after Anna literally robbed her and her workplace!
@@Jantonio2912 it does not justify robbing her after you pay some of her expenses by your own free will.
@@vaiciciaku that’s just unfortunate. Besides at least businesses are learning to charge people up front
“It was amazing, till it wasn’t” 😑😑🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ so it was amazing when she paid for u. But when she stopped paying for u. It wasn’t amazing anymore?!
Anime Fan that's how it always is when your sugar mama stops paying your way
Anna was the one who invited her on the trip for free wich eneded up with her paying the bill so I guess it wasn't amazing?
Anime Fan exactly!!
The Daria facepalm needs a green jacket.
How would you feel if I invited you to some exotic place and said don't worry, I know it's expensive but I'll pay. You went along happily until some people basically threatened to have you locked up in a foreign country for skipping out on a bill you never agreed to? Would you also be happy and still up your friend's butt? Also, before anyone tries to tell me, WeLl ThEn DoNt gO On TrIpS iF YoUr FrIeNd Is PaYiNg....that's ridiculous. Sometimes, friends want to do things with their friends who can't afford something and they pay without thinking twice about it- and if everyone involved is okay with it....I really don't see why it would be a problem. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be grateful or that you can't be thankful and have fun and all that...but it also certainly doesn't mean that they own you and your happiness just because they paid for you.
“I wanted to protect other people”
Oh yeah, likely 😂
I wonder that was anna other goal to still from the rich
Rachel was a victim and it's a shame that they found Anna guilty when it came to corporations, but not to a regular person. Rachel was in a horrible situation. I am definitely siding with her. It's common sense.
She’s exactly how they portrayed her in Inventing Anna, just there for the ride and nothing else.
Anna is guilty but Rachel is definitely no saint, she was just a free loader. I know a lot of these people, they are only there for the good times.
@@COCO-bl4ig the only one Anna was probably real with was neff because she is loyal too Anna even when Anna went to jail she was loyal. In one episode you see Anna actually be real with neff when neff asks why she gives and spends money and for a split second she’s real “Anna says kids used to make fun of her when she was a child for being poor and not having money ” and that’s all we get from the real Anna. Plus you see Rachel copy Anna multiple times like Rachel wants to be Anna. I do generally think neff knew what Anna was doing but didn’t bust her because in Neff’s mind everyone hustles somebody. That’s why Anna stayed at the hotel so long where neff worked at because she trusted neff.
Not really, In reality Rachel looks very normal in person compared to how she was portrayed in the Netflix show. The actor does not ever resemble her and she looks twice her weight. Hello casting director, did you forget your job!
Rachel is a typical opportunist.
Also Anna may have scammed everyone but she made everyone live like Alan he got up and went to work didn’t pay attention to his wife and gave his daughter whatever she asked for, but when he met Anna he started paying attention to his wife and cut his daughter off because let’s face it she was a spoiled brat so used to daddy & mommys money, even neff learned something from Anna go out and live and take chances and do what she wants too do, like be a director even you notice Anna has a impact on Vivian you notice at the end Vivian hair is straight and Vivian has on nice clothes and doesn’t dress down anymore.
I caught that she mentioned “being white” as a reason it was really easy for this girl to get away with so much. This coming from another white woman. She understands she won’t be questioned. She knows that no one would truly suspect it because it was believable. Her personality and persuasiveness got her in the door, but her being white is key.
Glad American Express helped this girl.
To the ones that feel Rachel was “ using” Anna, consider that you would let your rich friend pay for things if they insisted and you knew they could . It’s like Anna was sort of grooming Rachel to later on violate her….to trust her, feel comfortable with her, her love bombing was her buying her an all expense paid vacations and spa dates.
Exactly!!! Facts.
Me too I guess when Anna was arrested they forgave her knowing it wasn’t her fault
I disagree that it was ok for the friend to go along for the ride and not know what was happening, she should've either done more research or gotten to know her friend more before going on that type of international trip. It reminds me of the first woman on tinder swindler who went on a private jet immediately after the first date with that guy. I don't fault either of them for being conned, but you gotta be smarter than this and protect yourself.
Okay maybe that was what Anna was doing but Rachel is still an opportunist because she took tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars with the free stuff for Anna for 2 years and I bet you that million dollars that Rachel made out of all this and not even having to pay the bill so $1,062,000 that Rachel would have never been her friend if she hadn't been paying for everything so Rachel didn't get her just deserves for being an opportunist but Anna did.
Let's not forget Anna had 10 counts against her she was found guilty on seven of the three she was found not guilty on one was defrauding Rachel so a jury says Rachel's not a victim and she wasn't defrauded.
Also, people on Wall Street and bankers and people like Rachel defraud and milk people all the time.
I think all women have that 'woman' privilege. Especially if they are young and pretty. I don't think it comes down to race
The only reason why she was with Anna Sorokin was becuase she was spending money on her! She knew all along, who wouldn't?
She's a reporter yo
Could be a movie but not a book. How does she have enough material to write a book?
The interview is just focusing on a tiny bit. She scammed club owners, many hotels, security companies and even celebrities. Apparently she borrowed from people to pay off others and fund a lifestyle.
Nomadic Homebody If she wants to get some money in her pocket...she’ll come up with the content! Trust lol
If i was out $60,000, I would make up shit if I have to!
Ghost writers
i love the book. finished it right now
A lesson I learned the hard way when I was twenty- do not loan anyone money unless you can accept you will not get it back. If I loan a friend money, I always am capable of not getting it in return. I know that is not what loaning means; but you have to be able to handle not getting it back. If you can't then you won't loan.
If you can’t afford to lose it can’t afford to lend it.
Yes never loan somebody what you need right back
That is the rule I live by. I only loan what I can afford not to get back.
I don't loan money. I make donations
I agree but I think in her situation she was probably scared of what would happen if they didn’t pay especially being in a foreign country. But still Anna didn’t ask her to pay either …
Who tf has a 62k card limit?!
A lot of people, it’s common. Doesn’t mean they want to use it lol
@@adrianesquivel7765 but usually it isn't more than you make in a year! I was capped off at 25k while making 55k per year.
It was American Express... no limit. When she said the card in the clip, I thought it would be clear that it's how the charge went through yet so many keep asking what card has that limit... many cards do.
omg read the book. she had to call amex to make it higher
Alot of people do but that doesn't mean you should use it all .
Unless you can pay it back on time which I doubt you could unless you're like making Millions
Anna almost pulled it off.She could have paid everyone off if the banks had loaned her the cash & become super rich .Kudos for effort .
Wat shall it profit a man to gain this whole world n loose his soul, stop looking at life in that way n know u here a short time n live it with love
Jennifer Browne yes
The Fact is she didn't. banks not kudos for fraud i guess.
Bryn Stuart Jones dude! I almost wish she had made it hahaha
@@kevindavila625 same I was kinda rooting for her lol
When she was taking advantage of the whole situation it was OK, when it came down to her, everything changed!
That girl was in a sense a user of her supposed rich heiress friend. She’s just mad she got played. 🤣🤣 ppl like her exist and take advantage of their rich friends. Jokes on her but luckily she got out of paying it
Exactly. Look at her body language in the beginning, it looks like bracing for the backlash. She opens up when talking about when she was scammed. Also how do you get American express to protect you from hotel fees? Maybe she wasn't truthful either.
Gianna Vee i felt that big time when she was explaining her finances 🤣😂
Gianna Vee, agree. i didnt feel sorry for her
There scammers so what will happen is this chick will get paid on this movie deal and help her friend get out of jail
Honestly if someone left me with a 62 thousand dollar bill who said they had so much money, I'd write a book too if that person became famous
Rachel seemed happy enough to be around Anna, as long as she was paying for everything, but as soon as Anna's money dried up, so did Rachel's loyalty. She definitely gives "frenemie" vibes, and she's doing so well out of the situation, given how "badly" Anna treated her!
"I'm so upset the court didn't rule in my favor" but also "I didn't have to pay it since American Express protected me". I agree she's benefiting considering that she was hanging around Anna for the perks, didn't have to pay off the hotel in the end (it's not like Anna stole the card and went without Rachel, she was there too), and she's getting money with the book and adaption deal.
I felt bad about the situation being out of the country because if it was in the US, the situation would be different. But you don't go to these countries and play these games. Anna obviously didn't care because as a narcissist you have to hit rock bottom but will still get up and pretend nothing happened. Those men meant business. Imagine going to a foreign prison over this bill. And you know Anna would turn on her and leave her to rot in prison if it's to her advantage.
''Sorokin offered her an all-expenses-paid trip to Morocco'' If you agree on that, you deserve this... I trust my friends and we pay for each other sometimes, but if you are all in to live off your friend, then you are sad person yourself...In trips you go 50/50.
@Bill Blass Bitch, don't take everything so serious. There are different types of friends and offers. I was talking about this instance, where this chick expected to live off her ''friend'', someone she barely knew. Calm down.
Yeap. She's a user. And at the end, she basically didn't pay anything and profited from the situation. Basic bitches trying to mooch off from others
If I can afford to spoil my friends, I’d do it
@@imdum5169 If you use somone you can't whine about being used back...Just don't live off of other people.
@@imdum5169 Not what I said, but go off.
Rachel: “American Express protected me”.
“The court didn’t rule in my favor”
Me: “Bitch please”
Rachel’s affect is off. Smiling while she describes this supposed crime against her.
Creepy.
J K Luther omg seriously
J K Luther it is because she is well ‘behaved’. Wasps dont show emotions like commoners dont you know. She s not fake, her composure is pretty much how she was brought up
well remember, she didn't have to pay for the bill. and because of Anna involving her in this, she now has a story to make profit off of. At the end of the day Anna made her richer, and shes happy!
it's a coping mechanism so she doesn't look hurt at her friend's betrayal
I think it's weird to accept money or gifts from a person you barely know.
Even if it's a female, there is no way I will feel comfortable accepting gifts, free travel or whatever that is.
I will fell like a useless person if I do that.
She literally took a risk as gamble and LOST. She is an opportunist and ew, acting like a victim
Anna Delvey doesn't look expensive & looks like she takes a subway and she has split ends according to some people who met her which was a dead giveaway.
This editor/friend is a freeloader and greedy. Anna saw it and scammed her. Don't feel sorry for her!
Dani Mark #deadgiveaway
My first thought. Her skin looks she hadn't a shower in months
Dani mark Ithought the same thing!!
Spit ends was a dead giveaway?! lol
Peace & Love 🤣🤣
I had some 'old friends' once who tried to pull this same crap on me. I offered my apologies to them for finding themselves in such an awkward predicament, but that I only had enough 'cash' on me to pay for my own expenses. Moral of the story ..choose your friends wisely 🌹
My friends tried to borrow money from me once. I watched them, as I zoned out realizing that the next iPhone was going to play cod mobile in 120 hz.
@@ronaldhuang2053 wait so you're saying a friend needed help but instead you zoned out and started day dreaming about material possessions?
@@justin01144 I need some money too. How much can I have?
Same but relatives !! They never paid me back so I learned the lesson
@@justin01144 I have friends?
Anna will forever be iconic
Rolling my eyes at everyone in the comment section acting like they wouldn't accept a paid for international trip from someone they thought was a (much richer) friend. Suuuure you wouldn't.
Just because they’re rich doesn’t mean you should take advantage, even if they offer. A lot of people wouldn’t feel comfortable always having a “friend” pay for everything. It wasn’t just the trip. It was drinks, yoga, and all sorts of other things.
Lmao she tried being a gold digging friend and got the opposite
Right?!?!
I really need to know how can someone be ok with letting her friend paying for restaurant, hotels, clubs and even cloths and everything else and the only time you have to pay for something you call it a nightmare and make a big drama out of it! How can someone be ok with going to an expensive trip and expect someone else to pay for it! Im glad everything turned out great for you at the end but in a healthy friendship or relationship both two people should pay for everything and do not expect the other person to pay all the time!!!
I don't see Rachel as a victim at all I see her as a huge opportunist. That's what's with the fake smile the whole painful interview.
She was an opportunist and letting Anna pay for tens and tens and tens of thousands worth of stuff over a two year period.
She tried to be an opportunist by going on this lavish all expense a vacation.
Her credit card debt had already been wiped and she was in no danger of having to repay it when she set up the sting to get Anna to leave rehab so she could be arrested in extradited.
Then she was an opportunist after that by selling her story all over the place and writing articles for vanity Fair.
Interesting how she worked for vanity Fair then cooperated in a sting even though she wasn't in financial debt and she was in no danger of losing her job or having to repay the credit card and should have been in no financial problems and then cooperates and get a sting that gets an arrested and extra guided and an article with Rachel's pictures the author in it appears in vanity Fair.
I know we all like the good guy bad guy scenario but there's a lot of Anna in a lot of people and I don't really see Rachel or Anna as any different.
Bottom line the jury had no problem convicting Anna on a lot of charges and they found her not guilty of the charge regarding Rachel. I think the only reason Rachel was mad about that outcome is because it does bring into question the legitimacy of her actions and her story.
Anna offered to. It was all her idea.
My point exactly, thank you
@@RayLRhodesare you stupid or something.... another scammer
Yes you’re right but at same time sometimes you can have a friend pay for something to do with us at the wrong with that there is why I say that sometimes you know like my families they pay money and I don’t know if they were like people in there I don’t really go out a whole lot because I don’t have a lot of money but it’s nothing wrong with having somebody pay or whatever and I don’t take money from people that’s why I don’t like going out if I can’t afford this or things I don’t like going out but there’s nothing wrong with somebody paying something to hold. It depends on the price to but nothing wrong with that you’re making a statement like this on the wrong with. No it’s not actually sometimes you can pay it And be equal thing or San Jose pays enough to pay they could be that too if he has her only idea friendship sure but it could be both. You don’t have to be half all the time. Yes it can be sometimes but yeah because of your friendship, but I don’t need it as a bad thing I was with Pain and if somebody office a piece of her things oh yeah, don’t make it bad Specially if they’re all fine, I’m a do you have to take it now like again like I said, depends on what it is but you have till the same things from Walmart and mostly which is offered but I don’t like to because for most part that’s why she says I have a family I’m a want you do it for because I don’t ask for anything I don’t really ask for anything I don’t want anything and she has a hard time convincing me sometimes you do certain things or letting her buy for certain things because I keep saying no but and then I always feel bad about it but she knows I’ll do it for her to listen if she need help that’s why she does it. She knows I’ll help her, but she needs help, but again it’s not bad to have you to sometimes you’re friendly face and I wish you could pay. There’s nothing wrong with that you don’t have to always pay half now if it’s a hotel stay then yeah I should be happy to pay your share and they should pay their share. I believe that’s what I believe for a hotel stay well if you want to eat or hang out with Page that has a bang you know again like I said some hasn’t been, my cousin goes out there and you know like last time my cousin paid you know for us, because we always take turns.
Amex covered it. The real “hardship” was being humiliated. The player got played. Now earned upwards of 630k. What has she turned around or recovered from? A lavish time and a ticket to ride?!
Absolutely and they slammed her hard After she served her time. Utterly humiliated I would say.
I Bet she rises again
It’s strange that Rachel told the interviewer that Anna got away with it because she’s a young, white female. Okay, Rachel, bring race into it. Anna got away with it because of her sociopathic charm. And her intelligence. But Rachel wants to claim it was based on race to a black interviewer. What the hell, Rachel?
She also lost her job but yeah I agree, she's really milking the role of victim. She used Anna too, let's face facts.
Rachel and other VF employees were laid off later on. She didn’t lose her job because of Anna. But I agree: she is milking this. She’s been on numerous shows, giving numerous interviews about this. She wrote a book and has a deal with HBO. It sucks what she went through, but it’s not like Anna stole her credit cards or tried to murder her in Morocco. I’m not sure what to think of Rachel.
I don’t get why people are mad at Rachel about that. Rachel definitely was the victim, and she never did anything wrong. Who cares if it ended up being a big story and she got a book deal, that’s not her fault
The Jury saw Rachel's scam so they didn't feel sorry for her. Good work Jury.
Are you stupid??? Have you heard about knowledge? If someone tells you that will buy you stuff, its a gift, you can accept it. Other context is called embezzlement. If your willing isnt free, it's not a willing...thats SO basic!!! Sad that your parents didnt teach you EMPATHY
@@Belleant no but would u have gone on an all expense paid trip, let ur friend buy u expensive stuff even though u nvr met that friend for long? Wouldnt that be sus? Like maybe its ok if its your best friend since you were young but???? They aint even know each other for that long
@@joel-cx7hm she offered so why not, i would say yes if someone offered.
I would never let my friend take me on an all expense paid trip. My best friend and I travel and always split things 50/50. Sounds to me, like Anna took advantage of people who are elitists and expect perks from other rich people. I know I couldn’t afford a 5 star trip so I wouldn’t have accepted a trip like that even if my friend offered to pay. I don’t like to owe anyone anything. I don’t want to feel like a beggar.
At the end you realize this is just one big advertisement for American Express... lmao smh
Lol
If they make a movie, Rachel should be played by Brittany Snow.
I agree
Brittany would be perfect for this
S Vlaski deadass
someone better tell Netflix about this
Lindsay Lohan
I'm shocked to see the comments here. Let's be clear here: Anna stablished a friendship and was the one that gave, voluntarily, lots of dinners and goodies to Rachel. She stablished a solid economic situation. Many reach people that have less wealthy friends tend to (sometimes) pay for expensive experience in order to live them with their less fortunate friends, otherwise they would only hangout with their other rich friends... and you know that's not always a good thing. So when they went to their trip and suddenly both where in a situation that you have to resolve or your friend (or maybe everyone) ended up in jail, you TRUST that friend will be able to pay, more after they stablished they can.
And think about it objectively: Anna offered the trip, all included, and they accepted in those terms. Rachel did what anyone would do in that situation. Now here's the problem: After Rachel paid, Anna kept giving excuses, living her hanging around with the promise of payment instead of just telling her she won't be able to pay. That's the issue. Anna didn't gave an F what would happen to that "friend". The only thing Rachel is guilty is for accepting those many things for free from her friend and of course, compromising her job's credit card (not her personal, she can do what ever she wants with that). Anna is no hero, she's not "justified" as the Netflix series present her. She doesn't care of anyone who cares for her, and yes, that's a sociopath.
If I found myself in the same situation I would do the same. And yes, I would also capitalize in that nightmare. Not only cos it was true, but also I have to demonstrate I was mugged by a friend that happens to have almost got US$20 MM from a bank and lied to many other business people. Anna didn't care, she still don't care (look at 60 Minutes interview), she even don't care that we care hahaha. I hope you don't cross roads with someone like her.
So I’ve got to admit- I dont actually feel sorry for any of these people. When this case was first presented, they said it like- she broke out onto the social scene, and hung out with New York’s socialites and “high society”. But she’s not as rich as she says she is. She’s a fraud. Like- who really is who they say they are? Rich people were swindled because they spent time with someone who isn’t rich. Poor them.
Also, the friend who thought she was getting a free $60,000 stay? Get real. She was the one who was using the Ana, and then she ended up having to pay. It’s kinda interesting- it’s an interesting glimpse into the minds of people who believe money is everything.
Indeed it is.
the 60,000 weren't for her alone - I mean hello???
And she wouldn’t turn on her calling her a friend
By all means, keep up the victim blaming going. It's one way to tell us you had terrible parents.
Here's the other thing she would throw lavish dinners pay the bill & then ask for people who enjoyed her expensive hospitality for a place to stay for the night & everybody would say no and she slept in her car. This was before everything broke. I can't help but feel like I understand how she came to be so hard. Did anybody ever think that maybe she really did just want to be cared about and liked and she spent years trying to buy people who then continued to be leeches. So, she got hard & cold & felt they got what they deserved. Obviously, it's not healthy to try and buy people's love and affection, but, as someone who lost their parents at a young age and then have no living relatives by the time I was 20 and to have some inheritance money I went through a phase where I did that because I was so alone in the world and scared didn't feel like people would love me if I couldn't do for them. A person who's in that space tends to attract really horrible, cold-hearted, lecherous people.
The fact that this Rachel was smiling throughout the interview is very creepy
That being said, while it’s not necessarily nice or good manners to take advantage of a rich girl and have her constantly foot all the bills, dealing with a sociopath is an experience that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Having dealt with it myself; the emotional and psychological anguish that ensues trumps having your friend foot a personal trainer or some drinks any day of the week. The two wrongs are completely incomparable. Sure people are right to criticize her leeching on one hand, but compared to what sorokin did - it’s basically child’s plays.
There is a difference between taking advantage of someone by inviting them to places expecting them to pay for everything and them buying you things on their own.
Not really because she never had to be in that situation in the first place of giving her credit card.
She's a complete opportunist. She's really not that much different than Anna I think she just played a better game.
Anna paid for tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff for her over 2 years and never took a thing and Rachel never offered her anything never bought her a gift never wrote her a thank you card and she was all set to take a lavish $60,000 vacation on someone else's dime.
She had the debt forgiven by Amex before she cooperated in the sting and I think it's kind of ironic that she worked for vanity Fair was in no danger of losing her job and in no financial debt yet cooperated in a sting that got Anna to leave rehab so she could be extradited and suddenly an article that she authored which never authored anything prior in her life appeared in vanity Fair and she slapped her picture in there as the writer not at all trying to keep a low profile and then was an opportunist by selling her story over and over and over again.
Let's not forget the jury found Anna guilty on a lot of serious crimes that had the potential to have her incarcerated for 12 years of her life and they found her not guilty of defrauding Rachel. So this little interview is spin because she needs her book to continue to do well and the movie option continue to do well and all of that money coming in.
Seems to me Rachel made out like a bandit she got tens and tens of thousands worth of dollars worth of free stuff from Anna got her vacation bill wiped clean and made about a million after.
My point is is that Rachel would have never been Anna's friend for so long putting up with her attitude or whatever if Anna hadn't been paying for everything all the time and so Rachel was a participant because she wanted the free stuff and the free training sessions and the free nights out more than she wanted to take care of her own personal health and that is completely on her and now she's crying victim she didn't even have to pay it did she voluntarily pay the money after she made the $600,000 to Amex and say look I end up making money on this I know you wiped it but how about I go ahead and pay that bill no.
@@mldureeyou’ve never been friends with a sociopath - also , she was only 28. That is very young
Anna is a narcissist. So putting on and taking advantage is her thing. Anna knew more or less from the beginning that she was eventually going to use her. She looks for people like her. The mistake this girl made was she didn't ask any questions and went with this care free style. Not realizing this care free person lacked maturity. People sadly get into these relationships (boyfriend/girlfriend, spouse, family, "friend" that never pays bills, booty calls, pull heart strings for sympathy) all the time and you always pay for trusting them.
Girl you wrote a whole book on her, congratulations
She’s just annoyed that Anna got caught and now she has no one to pay for everything
At R came here to comment that. 😂
And sounds like Anna was her only friend 😕
Rachael did this to herself..... she could've said no at anytime. There's no way anyone could scam me out of 62k. The way they portrayed her in the series is how she really is. She wasn't forced to put the charges on her cards.... this was her fault for not thinking....
You don't think the hotel staff showing up to your room demanding a working credit card is not being forced? they were in a foreign country and Anna kept saying she'd come up with the money. Obviously the staff was not going to accept a card from Anna so Rachel felt she had to do it. Nothing was supposed to be charged to her card anyway, it was just a hold until Anna could get her money wired in. Money Anna was flat out lying about. It's easy to say you wouldn't have used your card but if you were trapped in a foreign hotel with the staff threatening to call the police...what would you do?
@@voiceOfReason16THANK YOU for being the only one with a brain here.
I don't even have a limit of 62,000. Insane.
What shocks me is the fact that major hotels check them inn without payment, in Brazil hotels never let you in without pre payment.
In some parts of Brasil you will never make it to the hotel, they will probably shoot or mug you while getting there.
"I don't want to cross paths with her" yet she is certainly still writing and talking about her
She’s smiling the whole time can’t take her seriously
Well, Rachel doesn't look hurt or devastated as she said. In fact she seems to be enjoying the spotlight.
Wouldn't you too? After being scammed in such a way and finally see the truth revealed? I would.
@@vaiciciaku right ! I agree
I don’t feel sorry for Rachel. I would have if she hadn’t smiled during this entire interview. She’s so happy for the attention!
4:37 "If she did this to me and I was her friend..."
She was never your friend. That's how sociopaths work. They play the part, get what they're after, and feel no remorse.
I think I must be the only person that is on Rachel's side. Sure she enjoyed Anna's 'gifts' but she also genuinely believed Anna was her best friend. Rachel is not a sociopath and was there for her friend however she could be, even if it wasn't in a monetary role. If her best friend offers to take Rachel somewhere fun why not go? I am happy Rachel was able to benefit from this in the end.
I agree. As far as her benefiting from all this, she turned a negative into a positive. I say good for her.
I'm on Rachel's side.
Absolutely right. These idiots on here are cheering the psychopath and criticizing the one who made the best out of a really bad situation. I can see why the world is going down the toilet.
Yup! I was thinking thesame!!
I agree. And I don’t get why people keep saying that Anna was paying for everything that Rachel was getting when she didn’t even pay a dime and was just charging it to her room n stuff. Then anna didn’t even feel bad when she used Rachel’s cards to pay for it.
Can’t help but notice she is smiling ear to ear during the interview. She doesn’t sound in distress. She knew what she was doing when she went on the trip.
She isn’t even ashamed or anything like I’d be digging a hole to hide myself for being so foolish and stupid lol
@@paris.998Did you ever stop to think that she might be feeling that way inside and is just doing a good job of hiding it?
I can't believe I've just wasted 7 min of my life 😬😫
And 1 another minute on writing a comment
And another 2 second reading my comment. 🌚
Took me 8 hours to read the book 😏
Mendi Lol stop whining like a goddamn toddler
SOROKIN PAID FOR EVERYTHING SO RACHEL BECAME HER FRIEND
The fact that the photos from the show and irl looks spot on
It never works out, when one friend has lots of money and the other one is poor. Different levels, different classes of society.
The supposed "friend" was not poor... Let's not get it twisted.... she was not poor, she was however happy for her seemingly very wealthy friend to use her money instead of helping out herself...
Oh for Gods sake stop acting like a victim, you’ve profited hugely from your “ordeal”.
Why Rachel went to so expensive trip if she couldn't afford it?
Because friends sometimes do that. When I was working and my friend was in between jobs, I paid for our vacation together (I paid travel expenses in one way + rented the house at the resort, she paid for travel back). When you take a bunch of people on a vacation, then don't pay and one of them is forced to step in, while you PROMISE TO PAY THEM BACK but don't pay them back, it turns into a crime. I blame prosecutors for not hitting on this point more.
They both are worth each other
Just because Rachel had some good things come out from the experience she had with Anna doesn't mean she didn't experience REAL trauma. I'm happy for Rachel, she deserves to have good things happening. Rachel needed to get the main character of her life back and I would have done the same as she did.
Trauma is not this. She is profiting of all of this and is playing the victim card. She was no victim.
She was milking Anna and was with her just because she assumed she was rich, not because she liked her.
She was fake as Anna, but at least Anna was honest about it, this b* pretends to be a victim.
@@mikatu you would have to go through this to see how you feel not been able to pay for your rent, and you’re about to loose your job and everything because of this debt !!! How would you feel if your “friend” does this to you??
@@colibri4676 you mean she had a panic attack.?? Because in the end she came out more then fine. She didn't once think anything of another person spending enormous amounts of 💰 on her. So yeah this isn't trauma. This was a oh sh* t what just happened. Real people live in real poverty everyday. Can't afford rent and basic necessities and will lose their job because they can't get to work on time when they lose their home and car. Not because they went on a european vacation they couldn't afford. Or because they abused their work credit cards by charging an amount they didn't have permission for. This was a panic attack for not making good decisions and getting "just desserts" for being as much of a fake friend as the wanna be heiress
Funny how she didn’t experienced a REAL trauma accepting all luxury presents and trips, right?
@@killpretty13 Morocco is a country in Africa, not Europe.
I’m not loaded but I have taken friends on holiday and paid for the accommodation because it been part of my deal. I invited them on my holiday and therefore had no problems paying that bill.
However if my friend wanted to go to expensive attractions while on holiday and expected me to also pay for that I’d definitely feel like that was taking liberties.
Based on how it was portrayed on Netflix it did seem like the friend expected Anna to also pay for her sight seeing trip - which from memory was not cheap by any means. That’s the one thing that mostly stuck in my mind.
This woman is just as much a player. She leveraged her loss. You learn something new, sweet-sounding, "I'm the victim...but try to see the good in people" type people can just be as awful if not worse.
She’s not a sociopath, she’s a scammer and all those people fell for it, I don’t feel bad for them, they decided to give this girl their money 🤷♀️
And she’s still a sociopath. She has no guilt or remorse at all. Ice cold.
Being a sociopath and a scammer are not necessarily mutually exclusive. It takes a sociopath to scam on this level. Plus sociopaths get away with it because of their charm, which helps them dupe victims.
She´s clearly a sociopath. There´s no doubt about it. She has no remorse about having hurt people or made them look like fools. Just because she fooled people who were wealthy, it doesn't mean they didn't have feelings.
She isn’t a sociopath lol she’s a narcissist just like this Rachel we can see here in this video
@@N0N4M30 She can be both. There can be overlap between sociopathy and narcissism. Her behavior in court displayed narcissism, but sociopathy is her key trait. Sociopaths are scheming, charming, pathological liars, and of course they lack remorse and guilt - that is not identical to narcissism. I recommend you have a look at her 60 Minutes interview.
Anna is a typical of most Narcissists. They 'love bomb' by giving those around them lavish gifts to reel them in, and that's how she made her friends, and could manipulate them. Then she devalued and discarded them when they were of no use to her. Narcs also treat those whom they feel are subordinate to them badly, for example waiters, shop assistants etc. They are also grandiose and entitled, just as Anna is, and we can see examples of all this in her reported behaviour.
I know how she feels... I had a guy who I liked, scammer online took $8000 from me, know I was a student with student loan. Video chatted with him and he made it seem like he was in rough place losing his job in US as an immigrant. Also, he told to me to invest in BTC for our future and the platform I invested in was not legit. So, I never gave him the money directly but, actuality it went to a fake platform. They groom you by treating you, shows you love/compassion and then, acts emotionally abusive. That is ten times worse than what Rachel went through but, I do support you. These kind of people hurt others at all cost, make fake relationships
Dumb dumb. Why would you give a man money?
Ur cc has a 62k level limit?!
runrockwater there’s ways to make the account go into the negatives
Yep technically any company can bill your card for ANY amount, once you give the the initial authorization. I've seen this happen too many times when people drop their cell phone contracts and then are alarmed that their credit card is thousands of dollars over their limit.
The card was actually her company’s card
That part
@@RosaX305 oh shoot that was the Vanity Fair magazine's credit card?
How are there so many comments dragging Rachel? Are we watching the same video? I don’t see anything wrong with Rachel that would merit all these personal attacks. She seems like a sweet, normal person.
If you’re frustrated with her success following this incident, do you also resent influencers? Every person who has written a memoir? Every non-celebrity who has appeared on talk shows for a unique experience? SMH
Is Rachel Williams benefiting from what happened? Probably but the difference is this. Rachel is selling something she actually has, the rights to her story. Why do so many people have a problem with that? She is making a good-faith transaction with willing purchasers and is actually providing them with the promised product
You're not listening to what their problem with her is ...
When she smiles so widely and almost laughs at everything she says it’s so annoying blargh
I'm glad she is capitalizing off of this. Anna never intended to pay for that trip. She played her friends by offering this free trip. Now, I would have never offered my card to someone who is having card trouble but I know she didn't expect her friend to do this. So I'm glad she helped get her arrested and is making money from this.
Girl the reason why she's smirking at you is because she knows at the very beginning that you're a user as well, but now you're the one who's using her, a movie huh?
Be nice if she did pron tho.
I can't believe how harsh these comments are towards rachel for accepting a free trip when someone offers. If I had a friend who was a multi millionaire who invited me on a trip and i said sorry no it's not in my budget and she said she would pay I would accept it. How is that a crime wow. now that being said I have no rich friends like this hahahahah but in a hypothetical world if I did I would 100% go. It's not a crime to accept a gift from someone else.
Because Rachel is a gold digger, it’s just that she dug up what she thought was gold but found out that it’s only a cheap gold-plated metal.
@@CountryCowboy008 you cannot know someone else's motivations unless you mind read
@@stayroxy
“Oh they’ve been friends for just a couple of months now and she was treated with all expense paid getaway to Morocco, that Rachel girl truly isn’t after Anna’s money”. Sure.
@@stayroxy your naivety is hilarious
Honestly, what kind of a person would feel comfortable never paying for dinners, outings, spa days and vacations. A true friend and a decent person would at least offer to pitch in or pay some of the time.
Most people I know would feel gross and a leech if not given the chance to pitch in
I agree after watching the netflix series. I have even less sympathy for Rachel. She never paid for anything!! Even the Moroccan gardens. Plus the way she was publicly presenting as a victim, whilst negotiating movie and book deals didnt sit well with me.
I think Anna wanted to portrait that’s she very wealthy, offering to pay for everything. Is it Anna’s fault for booking a $7000 per night room when she clearly didn’t have the money.
@@andreweats8888 It’s Anna’s fault obviously…. BUT again, if I were Rachel, I wouldn’t be comfortable accepting that kind of offer from a friend, especially if I considered myself a real friend.
1.) Anna is known to say she doesn’t work, and that she pretty much “relies financially from her father”
2.) I may be too skeptical or practical, but I always think if S#iT hits the fan (some bad luck or whatever) and my rich friend can’t cover the bill, I don’t want to be in a situation where I can’t help cover the bill
3.) You just simply don’t ask, expect or take anything that you, yourself can’t or won’t give/do in return if the situation is reverse. It’s a way of keeping the dynamics of your relationships balanced so that noone feels taken for granted or used.
My mum (& Shakespeare) always said...never a borrower nor a lender be!! 🤑🤑🤑
Wait.....250k restitution ....can't profit off it but the movie pays the debts? are you all delusional
Who cares.. clearly the movie producers have no problem with it
I mean She was fine and happy till Anna was paying for all the trips, restaurants, clubs, food, clothes. People like Rachel are opportunists
Well she also became friends with her because Anna paid for almost everything in the period of their friendship.
When a player meets a player players get played
I don’t understand how people don’t feel bad for her. Like yeah maybe she just shouldn’t have given her card in the first place but she and everybody else believed that she had money so I understand how that happened. And I’m pretty sure the odds of her getting so much money out of the situation was super low, it just so happened that people got really interested in this story and monetizing it was actually possible. Getting scammed out of a whole $60k must have been scary af but I’m glad it all turned out well in the end
First of all she was so entitled that she let Anna pay for everything so far and thought she could go to such expensive trip for free. Karen much?
Rachel! This is NOT your story! She did nos suffer anything at the end ! Amex covered everything and now you are selling books movies! You ate benefitting from Anna
@@sheelaharends8551Why shouldn’t she make money out of what happened to her?
I felt bad about the situation being out of the country because if it was in the US, the situation would be different. But you don't go to these countries and play these games. Anna obviously didn't care because as a narcissist you have to hit rock bottom but will still get up and pretend nothing happened. Those men meant business. Imagine going to a foreign prison over this bill. And you know Anna would turn on her and leave her to rot in prison if it's to her advantage.