@@RandomCommentMakerPerson Killed his brother who made him starve and banished the hyenas to the outlands where there is barely any food and barley any water. If Scar didn’t kill Mufasa he would have had a fight with Mufasa and then he would have been banished. Scar and his family if he had a family would have starved to death and the same thing would happen to the hyenas.
So were Frollo, Gaston, Ursula, Clayton, Ratigan, Evil Queen, Horned King, Percival McLeach, Mother Gothel and Dr. Facilier and yet they were all there. You know full well they couldn't do this short without including all the villains.
I believe it is because mufasa dying was a really big turning point in the film and is why Simba even went on the journey he did ,but I don't know I may be wrong
Actually if I remember correctly, Mufasa's death was gonna be much worse, but they ended up scraping it because when they showed it to kids, they cried uncontrollably.
Yeah, and his death also didn't play as significant of a role in his respective movie as Mufasa's (that is if we're going along with how Mufasa wasn't featured in Once Upon a Studio because his death was important to The Lion King and its themes and storyline).
Also, Kerchak himself is a significant character in both the movie and Tarzan's life bc of how he looks down on him for not being a gorilla, and Tarzan tried proving to Kerchak that despite not being a gorilla, he is still his son and a member of his tribe.
In fact here’s an idea that could’ve worked for Mufasa. Right after Donald Duck's scene with Flash. Pete is stumbling along the upper levels, trying to find an elevator to get down. He sees that every elevator is full of Disney guests. So he draws one up and hopes to use it. The wildebeest stampede appears in the elevator and tramples him. Mufasa walks past saying: “That HAD to hurt. I should know.”
Ray and Kerchak died at the end of the movie while Mufasa, Bambi's mother, Queen Iduna, and King Agnarr died at the beginning, which is why these two characters do appear in this short.
Mufasa and Bambi's mother did not die at the beginning, they died almost half an hour into their movies. They showed Bambi's mother in Who Framed Roger Rabbit so it has little to do with that. I think they just wanted to give Kerchak and Ray more exposure and not just show the most popular characters. Mufasa and Bambi's mother have been seen lots in the past. My opinion though is that these two should have also been included here as they are so iconic.
@@NorthStar8211 i think you mean simba, mufasa is simba's dad and mufasa died in the beginning of the movie maybe less than a quarter through, the half way mark of the movie simba was still in the jungle with timone and pumba
@@fallen_spirit15 Disney parents who literally died at the beginning of an animated movie are Todd's mother in Fox and the Hound, Quasi's mom and Aladar's mom. I was slightly exaggerating but Mufasa still died about 25 minutes into the movie which is almost one and a half an hour long. So he died after almost 1/3 of the movie. That's far from the beginning. It is nearly halfway through. I didn't mean Simba at all. Simba didn't die.
He is more iconic and recogniseable as a cub and so is Nala. In House of Mouse they appeared both as cubs and as adults interchangeably. This short is independent from their movies as is House of Mouse.
well, that's what the animators would have decided, although I was most waiting for them in their adult version, to listen to their voice actors again, for example I imagined Simba saying like: "this photo will be legendary, I can't wait, let's meet the others"
Here’s my take on it. Kerchak wouldn’t have changed the course of the story. Jane and her father would still leave their lives and go to live with the gorillas if he was dead or not. However, mufasa’s death caused a major shift in the movie. It’s how scar was able to get Mufasa and Simba out of the way so he can take over as king. Yes, both of them died. However I think that the animators didn’t include the deaths of heroes that change the course of the movie they were in. Mufasa’s death changed the course of the lion king while Kerchak’s didn’t change what would happen in the end of Tarzan.
Considering that Mufasa could have shown up in ghost cloud form, they could have used him, BUT- they showed Simba and Nala as cubs, long before Mufasa would have shown himself to Simba in cloud ghost form. So either we're operating on "Mufasa hasn't died yet" terms or "this is shortly after his death."
It doesn't follow the timeline of the movie. They follow the trope of animated actors. Especially considering that heroes and villains all stand together and are mostly on good terms (see Frollo next to Esmeralda or Phoebus). It is more or less as in House of Mouse or Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Interestingly, Simba and Nala appear both as adults and as cubs in House of Mouse with no consistency, suggesting that as animated actors they can switch between their cub and adult forms.
@@ElizabethCherryBlossomHe dies at the end of the first movie too? He was dead in the sequel too, which is something in the same universe as the first movie so it counts more
Short answer: He is dead. Edit: the long answer is what is said in the video, it does a better job at explaining the exceptions and reasoning than I. Why did so many of you comment before watching ten seconds into the video?
It does not matter if the characters died in their movies. Here they appear as animated actors, as in Who Framed Roger Rabbit and House of Mouse. Scar was eaten by hyenas. Zira acknowledges it. His spirit also appeared in Lion Guard. Frollo appears and we saw him sinking in molten lead. Ursulla is there and we saw her die. Maleficent is there and she was also killed.
I am SO HAPPY that you mentioned that. After all, it is pretty clear that Mother Gothel isn’t the Best Mom. She is the first Disney Villain to have a child in Disney Animation History
Frollo pulled a similar one with quasimodo. He kidnapped a child, raised him indoors and never wanted him to leave because " the world is cruel and you are deformed stay here ik what is best", Rapunzel and him could be such good besties like, they would get each other's trauma.
@@EChaconyeahhh I don't know about the crows returning, since they're pictured as minstrel figures in Dumbo. And if they did return them, they might spark controversy
To be fair Tarzan, gorilla father dies at the end of the movie, so yeah, where as all the others died at the beginning or mostly the beginning of the movies
must be good writing then, idk why I cant get emotionally attached to any fiction except almost forming a tear in the movie click around the grave scene and the end
I guess even Disney can make mistakes. I'm joking I know that Disney made plenty of mistakes. The important thing is that they bring us a lot of Joy whether they make something bad (sometimes)or good
@prestonandtom9337 It's highly nostalgic and we haven't seen the franchise in over 23 years. So yes, it was nice to see Aladar get recognition again. And plus, the Dinosaur ride is closing soon. So Once Upon a Studio will be the last time we ever see the Dinosaur franchise.
True. I just wish that he wasn't only seen at the end, it would've been nice to see him interact with some of the other better known characters. Too bad we won't ever see Aladar again 🥺😭
@@prestonandtom9337 what do you mean that it doesn’t need reconization ? Dinosaur needs to be recognized because is a Disney movie. It’s not fair that all Disney movie characters get recognized except dinosaur. That’s just not fair
@@christopherescobedo5854 It does need recognization in this short because it's a collection of all Disney movies. I'm saying it doesn't need any recognized on anything outside of this short.
They could’ve included the “dead” characters in a portrait likeness perhaps like the moving portraits in Harry Potter. Only unlike the “live” portraits they can’t leave the frame
I also noticed a few other characters missing from Once Upon a Studio: Dodger and his gang were there but *none* of the humans from Oliver & Company, Tamatoa wasn’t in it, most of the Disney Princess parents [the living ones, I mean, like Aurora’s parents aren’t dead, Mulan’s parents aren’t dead], the cows from Home on the Range are there but not Alameda Slim, Chernabog appears but not in the ending photo-come to think of it, they included some Silly Symphonies rep and even Oswald but not The Incredible Mr. Limpet or Br’er Rabbit (they’ve used the Br’er characters without directly referencing Song of the South in the parks and other stuff before like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, House of Mouse, and even Lion King 1 1/2)-and I’m sure there’s a few others I missed, and I’m not talking some obscure incidental background characters either.
You also forgot to mention Ariel’s father; King Triton, Belle’s father; Maurice, Tiana’s mother; Eudora, Rapunzel’s parents; King Frederic and Queen Ariana (although their names were never mentioned in Tangled and also have no lines as well), Moana’s parents; Chief Tui and Sina and Raya’s father; Chief Benja.
Mufasa died early in the movie and was an influential character as a spirit, Kerchak was alive for most of the movie and has a lot of importance while he’s alive.
I think Ray and Kerchak are present because they didn't pass away until the end of the movie, and therefore their deaths were not critical to the plot, whereas characters like Mufasa, Bambi's Mother, and Queen Iduna and King Agnarr died much earlier in the film, making their deaths more critical to the plot of the film (so that explains their absences).
Perhaps they originally wanted to put in some of the more controversial characters like Tiger Lily or the Br'ers, so the characters who died at the end were included to replace them.
Thats so cooooooool I haven’t tried using texture in my drawings yet but this seems really cool, I’m going to try this stuff out ASAP (Good job Ztarli!)👍👍
I think the reason that Scar and Kerchak were shown, though both died, was that they were shown through out the movie or at least known to be alive through out the movie, only to be killed at the end, and that is why they were shown and not Mufasa, Bambi's mom, or Anna and Elsa's parents, for they died at or near the beginning of the movie. I don't know, just my thoughts on the matter.
I mean if that was the case then why didn't they use adult Simba and Nala over theirs young version? Also if you look really closely you can even see Ray from The Princess and the Frog in there too who wouldn't make sense to be there too since he die in his film as well too.
I think that's a great question! Apparently the idea was that they wanted to take characters in the form that they are the most recognizable. So Simba and Nala are young because that's how most people picture them. I completely agree too that Ray wouldn't make sense to be included in the line up with the idea that we should respect characters passing. By the way, thank you for the Super Thanks!
@@IsaacCarlsonbut aren't they all dead? I mean these disney movies happened time line wise 100 of years ago also the villains also all died. I think they didn't include these but characters like kerchak and ray because that wasnt the main plot. The death of Mufasa or Bambi's mother were the main plot of these movies
The thing is those people died at the begging of the movie and had an impact to the plot through grief. Kurjak died at the end and was more of a death in the final battle rather than your traditional Disney parent death. Witch they kept true for Tarzan’s parents
Clopin does not appear and he did not even die in his movie. A character's absence is not a spoiler. Kocoum does not appear either and that is not a spoiler that he dies (if people have not seen the movies, they will not even know or expect to see these characters). I think that Disney just thought that they have way too many lions in the short already. Still, leaving out Mufasa was not a wise decision. They could have kept him as a silent character.
160: Definitely has to be Davy Jones. I love the franchise of Pirates of the Caribbean and this villain scares me to the core. Scared me pretty good when I was a kid and is Billy Nighy’s best villain performance
"Keep your eyes on the jpb boy, it doesn't matter... deads dead... and be thankful that's all we've seen" - Guran A gnome lab assistant in the old game called Reckoning: Kingdoms of Amalure. Originally for PC, but then XBox360 and eventually PS4 as a remastered release. One of my favorite games.
Because Mufasa canonically died during filming. They wanted to get that sense of realism, y'know? So they made it as authentic as possible, so they trampled him with real animated wildebeasts on-set. Simba's reaction was also a live reaction, they managed to get it all in a single take.
I think it’s more to do with how long their role was in the movie. You have to remember, Anna and Elsa’s parents were only in the beginning of Frozen. I can see it the same way with Mufasa, even though we see him again to tell Simba to remember who he is. Now knowing this, I think that’s why it’s so different with Kerchak because yes he passes on, however it’’s not until almost at the end of the movie.
Kerchak, even though he died in the movie, he was still a reoccurring character in the Tarzan series when Tarzan is having flashbacks to his childhood, which was often.
I mean, they wouldn’t put EVERY SINGLE character to ever appear on screen, they put the most iconic, the protagonists and their villains. Honestly I think they did great! ❤ It was really sweet and endearing, they even cared to show the more old stories that kids probably don’t know about now but that made a part of many childhoods nonetheless
That sounds like a bit of stretch. King Runeard wasn’t exactly the main villain throughout the whole movie. He only killed a man to trap his people and his own in the forest for years
I think it’s because mufasa died more early in the movie and kerchak died near the end But i do think they should’ve put him as a cloud or something that would’ve been cool
I would compare Hades and the Baroness. The two Disney Villains wants the main characters die as young infants but they eventually didn’t succeed and got what they deserved
They didn't even include Mr. Winky and the Weasels alongside the already present The Wind In The Willows' characters, Tony & Joe, the Br'ers, Jasper & Horace.
The main two things with Kerchak are that his death was closer to the end of the movie than most, letting us see quite a bit of him in Tarzan, and that he died when Tarzan was an adult. All of the ones mentioned here use the parental figure’s death as a backstory in a sense. Most of these happen before the third act (besides maybe Bambi since I haven’t seen that one in forever) and all of them happen during the main character’s childhood that they show distain over. They all serve as trauma. Kerchak happens near the end of the movie and happens during Tarzan’s adulthood. Tarzan’s human parents serve that role far better, even if they weren’t in the movie
The featured Jim Hawkings from Treasure Planet, a movie I heard didn't do well when it released but is an absolute treasure in my opinion. The mixture of 2d and 3d along with an amazing soundtrack and characters was pure gold. But the couldn't give Mufasa a single second of screentime because "His death and the grief felt over it was integral to the original movie"?!
Well, they didn't include Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox, and Brer Bear from Song of the South. Too bad because that movie gave the first Academy Award to an African American Man, James Baskett, who played Uncle Remus!
Who tf is out here crying about Mufasa so much they actively had to mention it when MULTIPLE Lion King characters are prominent in it. Like who cares man he literally dies to start the plot and his character is just "good, honourable father"
I was surprised by Sweet Pete in Chip N Dale: Rescue Rangers. Being voiced by Will Arnett brings a great performance. What Sweet Pete does is disturbing
I'm sure they just had a deadline and a budget, so they stuck with main characters and then chose the more prominent supporting characters and some fan favorites that were enough to represent some the movies.
Mufasa became one with the Force, like Anakin.
Mufasa is more of a Sith than a Jedi. Scar is the good guy.
@@crashban4t.f.s.b783how??? Killed his brother and starved the land
@@RandomCommentMakerPerson Killed his brother who made him starve and banished the hyenas to the outlands where there is barely any food and barley any water. If Scar didn’t kill Mufasa he would have had a fight with Mufasa and then he would have been banished. Scar and his family if he had a family would have starved to death and the same thing would happen to the hyenas.
@@crashban4t.f.s.b783 he would've starved but it's better than everyone but scar and the hyenas starving
@@RandomCommentMakerPerson Mufasa caused the drought. Scar didn’t. Mufasa appears as a cloud so yeah.
But also..Scar is dead too.
So were Frollo, Gaston, Ursula, Clayton, Ratigan, Evil Queen, Horned King, Percival McLeach, Mother Gothel and Dr. Facilier and yet they were all there. You know full well they couldn't do this short without including all the villains.
John silver didn’t die.
I believe it is because mufasa dying was a really big turning point in the film and is why Simba even went on the journey he did ,but I don't know I may be wrong
Well so is a bunch of the other villains
Mufasa was main part of the story
A parent dying in a movie and grief is like 98% of every Disney movie. Think we can handle it.
I lost count of how many times that has happened.
Mufasa's hits different than any of the other ones though.
Actually if I remember correctly, Mufasa's death was gonna be much worse, but they ended up scraping it because when they showed it to kids, they cried uncontrollably.
I swear the main character can't have two parents without one of the dying.
@@cookedcaribou3697 _At least_ one.
Well…Kerchak is different because he died at the very end, around the same time Clayton met his demise
My thought exactly the others died either early on or at least halfway through their films.
Yeah, and his death also didn't play as significant of a role in his respective movie as Mufasa's (that is if we're going along with how Mufasa wasn't featured in Once Upon a Studio because his death was important to The Lion King and its themes and storyline).
Also, Kerchak himself is a significant character in both the movie and Tarzan's life bc of how he looks down on him for not being a gorilla, and Tarzan tried proving to Kerchak that despite not being a gorilla, he is still his son and a member of his tribe.
@@evelutioncorwell with Kerchaks death, he finally accepted Tarzan as his son and thus Tarzan had to become leader of the apes
yeah same with Scar, he died at the very end too
I think the real reason was because they didn’t want to hire James Earl Jones to voice, Mufasa.
I could be thinking that it just for Darth Vader but, James Earl Jones left his voice to Disney to have A.I. do the voice work for him when he retired
@@benmunn7593 I did not know that part.
That I really can’t think of why they wouldn’t use him.
I'm not sure, @@Nazo-kage, but, like I said, he retired
They didn't have to make him talk though, he could've cameoed in the group picture with Sarabi too. Or used takes from the movie..
My brother in Christ 90% of the characters didn’t talk
In fact here’s an idea that could’ve worked for Mufasa.
Right after Donald Duck's scene with Flash. Pete is stumbling along the upper levels, trying to find an elevator to get down. He sees that every elevator is full of Disney guests. So he draws one up and hopes to use it. The wildebeest stampede appears in the elevator and tramples him. Mufasa walks past saying: “That HAD to hurt. I should know.”
Ok that's absouletly perfect! XD
Right??@@megameme29
LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
oh yeah, it would have been hilarious jaja, but the one I was most looking forward to hearing his voice actor again was Simba too
That would of been funny
I'm just happy to see Treasure Planet get some recognition from disney.
TREASURE PLANET!!!🎉❤😂
It’s still one of my very favorites. I love that movie
SAMEEE I WAS SO HAPPY
lol that movie made no sense but i still like it
im glad it got in there too
@@unicornpupart How did it make no sense??
Ray and Kerchak died at the end of the movie while Mufasa, Bambi's mother, Queen Iduna, and King Agnarr died at the beginning, which is why these two characters do appear in this short.
Mufasa and Bambi's mother did not die at the beginning, they died almost half an hour into their movies. They showed Bambi's mother in Who Framed Roger Rabbit so it has little to do with that. I think they just wanted to give Kerchak and Ray more exposure and not just show the most popular characters. Mufasa and Bambi's mother have been seen lots in the past. My opinion though is that these two should have also been included here as they are so iconic.
@@NorthStar8211 yeah. That's the point.
What about scar?
@@NorthStar8211 i think you mean simba, mufasa is simba's dad and mufasa died in the beginning of the movie maybe less than a quarter through, the half way mark of the movie simba was still in the jungle with timone and pumba
@@fallen_spirit15 Disney parents who literally died at the beginning of an animated movie are Todd's mother in Fox and the Hound, Quasi's mom and Aladar's mom. I was slightly exaggerating but Mufasa still died about 25 minutes into the movie which is almost one and a half an hour long. So he died after almost 1/3 of the movie. That's far from the beginning. It is nearly halfway through. I didn't mean Simba at all. Simba didn't die.
... but then why is Simba still a cub?
yes
He is more iconic and recogniseable as a cub and so is Nala. In House of Mouse they appeared both as cubs and as adults interchangeably. This short is independent from their movies as is House of Mouse.
@@NorthStar8211 ha-rumph! Adult Simba is more handsome
well, that's what the animators would have decided, although I was most waiting for them in their adult version, to listen to their voice actors again, for example I imagined Simba saying like: "this photo will be legendary, I can't wait, let's meet the others"
@@NorthStar8211So they hired a cub and an adult lion to play child and adult Simba in the movie.
Here’s my take on it. Kerchak wouldn’t have changed the course of the story. Jane and her father would still leave their lives and go to live with the gorillas if he was dead or not. However, mufasa’s death caused a major shift in the movie. It’s how scar was able to get Mufasa and Simba out of the way so he can take over as king. Yes, both of them died. However I think that the animators didn’t include the deaths of heroes that change the course of the movie they were in. Mufasa’s death changed the course of the lion king while Kerchak’s didn’t change what would happen in the end of Tarzan.
Considering that Mufasa could have shown up in ghost cloud form, they could have used him, BUT- they showed Simba and Nala as cubs, long before Mufasa would have shown himself to Simba in cloud ghost form. So either we're operating on "Mufasa hasn't died yet" terms or "this is shortly after his death."
It doesn't follow the timeline of the movie. They follow the trope of animated actors. Especially considering that heroes and villains all stand together and are mostly on good terms (see Frollo next to Esmeralda or Phoebus). It is more or less as in House of Mouse or Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Interestingly, Simba and Nala appear both as adults and as cubs in House of Mouse with no consistency, suggesting that as animated actors they can switch between their cub and adult forms.
@@NorthStar8211 👏
And in the lion guard, Scar is dead.
@@ElizabethCherryBlossomHe dies at the end of the first movie too? He was dead in the sequel too, which is something in the same universe as the first movie so it counts more
In tlk 2 he is in like the sun and a wind with leaves.
They could’ve added Mufasa like as in the “cloud form” or whatever he was shown in the film after he died
Short answer: He is dead.
Edit: the long answer is what is said in the video, it does a better job at explaining the exceptions and reasoning than I. Why did so many of you comment before watching ten seconds into the video?
So is Scar?
And Kerchak, and Jafar, and Maleficent, and Ursula, and Frollo, and so many others that appear in the short.@@thiagoteixeira6537
@@thiagoteixeira6537rule number 1, no body no death.
Scar is the reason why Mufasa died.
It does not matter if the characters
died in their movies. Here they appear as animated actors, as in Who Framed Roger Rabbit and House of Mouse. Scar was eaten by hyenas. Zira acknowledges it. His spirit also appeared in Lion Guard. Frollo appears and we saw him sinking in molten lead. Ursulla is there and we saw her die. Maleficent is there and she was also killed.
I was super happy when they added Treasure Planet and Disney dinosaur those were classics 👌 one thing they did right 😂
Same
Flops
I agree because Disney’s dinosaur is one of my favorite dinosaur movies 🦖 🎥😍
I am SO HAPPY that you mentioned that. After all, it is pretty clear that Mother Gothel isn’t the Best Mom. She is the first Disney Villain to have a child in Disney Animation History
Cassandra???
Frollo pulled a similar one with quasimodo. He kidnapped a child, raised him indoors and never wanted him to leave because " the world is cruel and you are deformed stay here ik what is best", Rapunzel and him could be such good besties like, they would get each other's trauma.
@@ad7618 he didn't really kidnap a child, he was asked to take Quasimodo in to atone the sin of murdering his mother.
Lady Tremaine??
@@ad7618 Frollo didn't kidnap Quasimodo, he was asked to adopt him to stone the sin of killing his mother.
The giant hermit crab from Moana should've been in One Upon A Studio.
Same with the Crows from _Dumbo,_ the Vultures in _The Jungle Book_ and the Yo Yo Flamingo from _Fantasia 2000_
@@EChaconyeahhh I don't know about the crows returning, since they're pictured as minstrel figures in Dumbo. And if they did return them, they might spark controversy
@@rodanthefiredemon3016I don't care what you say! They still should've appeared reguardless! Even Whoopi Goldberg loves them!
@@rodanthefiredemon3016 I still loved them regardless of the controversy.
@@EChaconSame here!
To be fair Tarzan, gorilla father dies at the end of the movie, so yeah, where as all the others died at the beginning or mostly the beginning of the movies
Rumor has it that the lion skull that Scar was playing with in Pride Rock was actually Mufasa's. 💀
That skull is too small
Thank u.
Nope, too small, not the right shape. It's a Baboon skull
It baboon skull
Wasn't a lion skull
They were thinking “ok, does anyone here actually remember Tarzan? No? Guess we’ll just have to wing it then”
I still can’t get over Mufasa’s passing ;-;
It saddens me.
must be good writing then, idk why I cant get emotionally attached to any fiction except almost forming a tear in the movie click around the grave scene and the end
When I saw The Princess and the Frog in theaters, I was blown away by Dr. Facilier’s villain song Friends On The Other Side
I guess even Disney can make mistakes. I'm joking I know that Disney made plenty of mistakes. The important thing is that they bring us a lot of Joy whether they make something bad (sometimes)or good
Mufasa was still falling in the wildebeest herd. 😢
It was on replay 😢
I have the idea that surely when they left their frames, it was already after the moment of their movie in which Mufasa had already died
Simba :hey where is dad?
mufasa:(being trampled and stuck in a stampede) OW OH OUCH MY LEGS MY EYES!
I’ll be honest, I’m just glad they included Aladar . . . Disney’s dinosaur finally getting recognition after all these years.
Dinosaur doesn't need any reconization.
@prestonandtom9337
It's highly nostalgic and we haven't seen the franchise in over 23 years. So yes, it was nice to see Aladar get recognition again. And plus, the Dinosaur ride is closing soon. So Once Upon a Studio will be the last time we ever see the Dinosaur franchise.
True. I just wish that he wasn't only seen at the end, it would've been nice to see him interact with some of the other better known characters. Too bad we won't ever see Aladar again 🥺😭
@@prestonandtom9337 what do you mean that it doesn’t need reconization ? Dinosaur needs to be recognized because is a Disney movie. It’s not fair that all Disney movie characters get recognized except dinosaur. That’s just not fair
@@christopherescobedo5854 It does need recognization in this short because it's a collection of all Disney movies. I'm saying it doesn't need any recognized on anything outside of this short.
They could’ve included the “dead” characters in a portrait likeness perhaps like the moving portraits in Harry Potter. Only unlike the “live” portraits they can’t leave the frame
You might say: oh, cause he’s dead.
But Scar is dead too and there’s he is 💀
but Simba is still a cub
Numerous villains have their demises reversed, but the dead family members of the "heroes" don't come back. Disney logic!
I also noticed a few other characters missing from Once Upon a Studio: Dodger and his gang were there but *none* of the humans from Oliver & Company, Tamatoa wasn’t in it, most of the Disney Princess parents [the living ones, I mean, like Aurora’s parents aren’t dead, Mulan’s parents aren’t dead], the cows from Home on the Range are there but not Alameda Slim, Chernabog appears but not in the ending photo-come to think of it, they included some Silly Symphonies rep and even Oswald but not The Incredible Mr. Limpet or Br’er Rabbit (they’ve used the Br’er characters without directly referencing Song of the South in the parks and other stuff before like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, House of Mouse, and even Lion King 1 1/2)-and I’m sure there’s a few others I missed, and I’m not talking some obscure incidental background characters either.
You also forgot to mention Ariel’s father; King Triton, Belle’s father; Maurice, Tiana’s mother; Eudora, Rapunzel’s parents; King Frederic and Queen Ariana (although their names were never mentioned in Tangled and also have no lines as well), Moana’s parents; Chief Tui and Sina and Raya’s father; Chief Benja.
Mr Limpet isn't a Disney character; his cameo in TLM was unauthorized.
Disney scored BIG time having Vincent Price in The Great Mouse Detective and now, Chris Prine in Wish
It’s actually Chris Pine that voices King Magnifico.
I like to imagine that Scar shoved Mufasa down a flight of stairs before he makes his appearance.
ahahahha that's a logical explaination
There’s a corner store near me that sells the same water, and I always get the lemon/lime one. It’s really refreshing when it’s hot. 🤭
Mufasa died early in the movie and was an influential character as a spirit, Kerchak was alive for most of the movie and has a lot of importance while he’s alive.
I think Ray and Kerchak are present because they didn't pass away until the end of the movie, and therefore their deaths were not critical to the plot, whereas characters like Mufasa, Bambi's Mother, and Queen Iduna and King Agnarr died much earlier in the film, making their deaths more critical to the plot of the film (so that explains their absences).
It's the same with Tadashi. He wasn’t present because he died early on in the film
Perhaps they originally wanted to put in some of the more controversial characters like Tiger Lily or the Br'ers, so the characters who died at the end were included to replace them.
I find King Magnifico okay. His villain song is catchy and I love how he resembles other Disney Villains in the color of green.
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Because of the Wildebeest
Mufasa fall into the stampede of Wildebeest, was because of Scar, he’s the one who made him fall.
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Thats so cooooooool I haven’t tried using texture in my drawings yet but this seems really cool, I’m going to try this stuff out ASAP
(Good job Ztarli!)👍👍
I think the reason that Scar and Kerchak were shown, though both died, was that they were shown through out the movie or at least known to be alive through out the movie, only to be killed at the end, and that is why they were shown and not Mufasa, Bambi's mom, or Anna and Elsa's parents, for they died at or near the beginning of the movie. I don't know, just my thoughts on the matter.
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I mean if that was the case then why didn't they use adult Simba and Nala over theirs young version? Also if you look really closely you can even see Ray from The Princess and the Frog in there too who wouldn't make sense to be there too since he die in his film as well too.
I think that's a great question! Apparently the idea was that they wanted to take characters in the form that they are the most recognizable. So Simba and Nala are young because that's how most people picture them. I completely agree too that Ray wouldn't make sense to be included in the line up with the idea that we should respect characters passing. By the way, thank you for the Super Thanks!
@@IsaacCarlsonbut aren't they all dead? I mean these disney movies happened time line wise 100 of years ago also the villains also all died. I think they didn't include these but characters like kerchak and ray because that wasnt the main plot. The death of Mufasa or Bambi's mother were the main plot of these movies
@IsaacCarlson explains Tadashi's absence from the short too
The thing that made me happy to see wreck it ralph again after 2018 and bay max after the ending of his spin off show
To be fair though, a majority of the characters seen in Once Upon a Studio DIED in their original movies… mostly the villains…
I love Lion King but when Simba goes to nudge his dad and says dad wake up, make me freakin cry everytime
Its called an excuse
The thing is those people died at the begging of the movie and had an impact to the plot through grief. Kurjak died at the end and was more of a death in the final battle rather than your traditional Disney parent death. Witch they kept true for Tarzan’s parents
And Scar also died I thought?? Didn’t he get eaten alive by the hyenas?
So it seemed 🤔
It wouldve been cool if they zoomed out a little more and mufasa was in the cloud looking over them
Unlike the others, Kerchak dies at the end of his movie, so his absence would be a massive spoiler.
Clopin does not appear and he did not even die in his movie. A character's absence is not a spoiler. Kocoum does not appear either and that is not a spoiler that he dies (if people have not seen the movies, they will not even know or expect to see these characters). I think that Disney just thought that they have way too many lions in the short already. Still, leaving out Mufasa was not a wise decision. They could have kept him as a silent character.
To be honest I'm just happy that they did this video AT ALL. They didn't even have too or need to they didn't for us ❤ fans❤
Disney ISN’T thinking…
159: Jadis the White Witch gave me goosebumps when I was a kid
Um scar dies too tho right?
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Kerchsk is not that important as lion king lmao
I think another reason why is because those characters died in the beginning of the movie, where as in Tarzan, he didn’t die until almost the end
I love how Frollo and Chernabog were in once upon a studio
*Sir, Skippy and Ornitheus Carnivorous crying in a corner*
I knows he’s in Disneytoon before it shut down, but I got pretty sad that Dusty wasn’t there either
This video aside, who else was traumatized by Klaten's death. Like, as a kid, it was scary, but now we know *how* he died, the trauma's just kicked in
It's probably because James Earl Jones is pretty much retired from voice acting which is surprising he wouldn't say yes to something this big
160: Definitely has to be Davy Jones. I love the franchise of Pirates of the Caribbean and this villain scares me to the core. Scared me pretty good when I was a kid and is Billy Nighy’s best villain performance
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A gnome lab assistant in the old game called Reckoning: Kingdoms of Amalure.
Originally for PC, but then XBox360 and eventually PS4 as a remastered release.
One of my favorite games.
Because Mufasa canonically died during filming. They wanted to get that sense of realism, y'know? So they made it as authentic as possible, so they trampled him with real animated wildebeasts on-set.
Simba's reaction was also a live reaction, they managed to get it all in a single take.
I think it’s more to do with how long their role was in the movie. You have to remember, Anna and Elsa’s parents were only in the beginning of Frozen. I can see it the same way with Mufasa, even though we see him again to tell Simba to remember who he is. Now knowing this, I think that’s why it’s so different with Kerchak because yes he passes on, however it’’s not until almost at the end of the movie.
I was like… “aint he died tho? And was a big turning point in the movie?”😂😂😂
The *REAL* Reason why Mufasa wasn't in Once upon a Studio is because: *It Doesn't F*cking Matter.*
Actually, that gorilla is Terk.
They could had pulled the camera out a bit to reveal the sky and put him there like in the movie
More likely, they didn't want to pay James Earl Jones.
It's a good short, it's best to not overthink it
Missed opportunity to make him appear in the clouds during the slow zoom away with all the characters…
I'm just glad Oswald the Lucky Rabbit was in this short. I almost cried seeing my boy 🥺
All these characters interacting with each other and they didn’t think to be pretend they’re all actors
Kerchak, even though he died in the movie, he was still a reoccurring character in the Tarzan series when Tarzan is having flashbacks to his childhood, which was often.
Scar locked him up in his painting cause he wanted his time to shine.
That's the only logical explanation
I’m pretty sure they just didn’t think people would care
“First 100 years” Now that’s got me Thinking about death…
the difference between including scar and kerchak is that their deaths werent the main theme and plot of their movies
I mean, they wouldn’t put EVERY SINGLE character to ever appear on screen, they put the most iconic, the protagonists and their villains. Honestly I think they did great! ❤ It was really sweet and endearing, they even cared to show the more old stories that kids probably don’t know about now but that made a part of many childhoods nonetheless
Ya know my first thought when I accidentally clicked this is 'because he's dead.'
I think it was mostly due to not having enough time to draw him in at the ejd or simply not enough space
That sounds like a bit of stretch. King Runeard wasn’t exactly the main villain throughout the whole movie. He only killed a man to trap his people and his own in the forest for years
Bro I just got over Tarzan's step daddy's death😢
Now you reminding me again
I think it’s because mufasa died more early in the movie and kerchak died near the end
But i do think they should’ve put him as a cloud or something that would’ve been cool
I didn't even know this particular video existed 😂
"No one truly dies" Mr plinkett
I would compare Hades and the Baroness. The two Disney Villains wants the main characters die as young infants but they eventually didn’t succeed and got what they deserved
Scar: “I’m surrounded by idiots.”
If “a hero like Mufasa” is the rule it makes sense why Scar and Kerchek are alive and not Bambi’s mom and Anna and Elsa’s mom aren’t alive
House Of Mouse: yeah, to blazes with that analogy.
They didn't even include Mr. Winky and the Weasels alongside the already present The Wind In The Willows' characters, Tony & Joe, the Br'ers, Jasper & Horace.
They forgot and gave a quick, stupid, and untrue answer - because Scar also died. They just hoped no one would notice.
The main two things with Kerchak are that his death was closer to the end of the movie than most, letting us see quite a bit of him in Tarzan, and that he died when Tarzan was an adult. All of the ones mentioned here use the parental figure’s death as a backstory in a sense. Most of these happen before the third act (besides maybe Bambi since I haven’t seen that one in forever) and all of them happen during the main character’s childhood that they show distain over. They all serve as trauma. Kerchak happens near the end of the movie and happens during Tarzan’s adulthood. Tarzan’s human parents serve that role far better, even if they weren’t in the movie
The featured Jim Hawkings from Treasure Planet, a movie I heard didn't do well when it released but is an absolute treasure in my opinion. The mixture of 2d and 3d along with an amazing soundtrack and characters was pure gold.
But the couldn't give Mufasa a single second of screentime because "His death and the grief felt over it was integral to the original movie"?!
Well, they didn't include Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox, and Brer Bear from Song of the South. Too bad because that movie gave the first Academy Award to an African American Man, James Baskett, who played Uncle Remus!
Who tf is out here crying about Mufasa so much they actively had to mention it when MULTIPLE Lion King characters are prominent in it. Like who cares man he literally dies to start the plot and his character is just "good, honourable father"
Same goes with a large majority of villains
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I was surprised by Sweet Pete in Chip N Dale: Rescue Rangers. Being voiced by Will Arnett brings a great performance. What Sweet Pete does is disturbing
I'm sure they just had a deadline and a budget, so they stuck with main characters and then chose the more prominent supporting characters and some fan favorites that were enough to represent some the movies.
Even the Beast is dead I know he turned back into a prince but still he was dead