Is My Concussion Permanent? Ask Concussion Doc - Ep: 98
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- Many concussion patients are told that there’s nothing that can be done for them or that their condition and symptoms are permanent and/or their “New Normal”. In this episode we discuss why people may be told that, and whether or not there is any truth to it.
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It’s hard to become the person I want to be right now but if I do eventually recover, I am a reinvented person with a different perspective who will be there for my friends and family as much as I can be. Talk about a long sentence.
What finally worked was cardio everyday, eliminating gluten, and working on my neck by a Physio. My neuro-optamologist spoke out against vision therapy, so I bailed on it. Still have some sensitivity to indoor lighting.
Where are u going. I'm in Toronto
@@fp2687 Neuro optamologist was Jeffrey Margolin at Mount Sinai.
Eliminating gluten? Why?
@@lydzpizz3058 in my case, causes inflammation.
Also what type of cardio? Running or cycling?
Best description out there. Thank you so much for this comprehensive explanation and treatment.
Thank you so much for this video.Im so blessed to find this. I had a concussion a week ago from Soccer .All the doctors I seen didn't do anything and just said here take Tynol for the pain of a headache I seen your video of activity after concussion so I went on treadmill and I was amazed how my symptoms vanished while I was on treadmill I kept doing it and I barely have a headache now and I'm able to go to work tomorrow for half days just for now so thank you for your research and professionalism:)
8 months in, 24/7 headache. Still have hope.
4 years of head pressure and dizziness. I wish my mother never have birth to me. I've had periods of highs and lows. In the end nothing matters.
Hi My OT recommended I watch your episodes, I am glad to have found you, I don't wish for anyone to go through this but it is nice not to be alone. I am approaching a year now with my concussion. I am in Physio, OT, counseling and Vision therapy. At this point they say my vestibular center is where most damage happened and some minimal frontal lobe potentially, they did not see anything on scan but this is based on my remaining symptoms, mostly my eyes, there are 4 things wrong with my eyes and I now need special glasses as the next step. constant headaches, eye pain, tinnitis and jaw pain. A paint can fell on my head! I'm at the point now, I have very slowly improved a lot but I strongly worry it is going to have some permanence.
Same
You should hear the US GPs and their response to concussions.
Your video made me cry. Its been 3 months and im just so sick on my headaches, they are ruining my day to day life
check out the Concussion Fix program!! concussiondoc.io
Hold on! Im getting close to a year now and i have seen a lot of progress. The first 6 months were hell but dont lose hope.
What!!! Really 3 months of headaches!?!?
I went to a neurologist after I had a fall on my back and head in the yard in late March. Within a few weeks I had eye problems, dizziness and balance problems. I also have underlying Chronic Lyme disease and mast cell activation. My neurologist diagnosed nystagmus and saw symptoms of the concussion in my brain. I'm in "neuro" therapy to correct the nystagmus. I also get acupuncture and am about to see a functional medical doctor. After 4 months I'm still dealing with symptoms though I intuitively feel I need some other ways of dealing with this in addition to the therapy. I'm considering going to a osteopathic doctor. What are your thoughts on this?
I had a concussion that caused me to have tinnitus; when I did a CT scan and it only states that I had ruptured sinus and no brain damage. My ENT doctor says my constant ringing in the ear my be permanent and that there could my some issue with the fluid in my inner ear which is sending mixed sound signals to my brain. I NEED HELP😩
May 2018 i had a concussion, sporadically i had mild symptoms for 3 years it lasted few hours and disappeared.
Always thinking was a sequel of the concussion it was bad , not injury or internal bleeding.
This time December and January for 10 days i am having experience of dizziness and i think is not normal.
I am going to a Naturopath...
I really like your information, but i am telling my experience but perhaps is something else...
So I decide to go to Naturopath doctor to discuss my situation.
Thank, José
If brain fog is an issue, try this. I’ve tried so many things since getting my concussion a year and a half ago. The only thing that has a noticeable impact on reducing my brain fog is keto. Maybe it’s a food intolerance that was exacerbated by the injury but it’s something to try.
I have stomach problems which i never had before, months after my concussion(very hard knocked on top of my whole head.Does the stomach problems ever heal?
I was told by st Michael hospital at the head trauma clinic at I'll get demina early and for life. I've had a concussion now for 4 years
The people who get dementia early are the ones with multiple head trauma who have plaque formation, I suspect. I worked In pathology and that’s what I’ve been told, by one of our MD.
Well since there is no evidence to suggest that is true, I think that you should probably find a new provider
First of all, this video is so helpful and is very positive in terms of outlook (encouraging activity/positivity rather than locking someone up and bed bounding them) I have a question however.
If your symptoms have passed a couple months, therefore it would be logical to think that the physiological problem (I.e injury to the brain) is now over, is it okay to drink alcohol?
I know in a previous video you said that alcohol causes alcohol brain inflammation, but if the PCS is due to brain injury you HAD and not a brain injury you now have, is there any risk associated to drinking regarding reverting any “progress” that you made over the past couple months. I just wanna know if I have a beer (or 5) on a weekend at I gonna be causing myself to go through this for the next year 😅 been dodging alcohol for the past couple weeks because of this.
Apologies if that’s confusing, I have always been bad at typing out questions, nothing to do with PCS I’m just horrendous 😂
Keep up the good work! 👍🏼
This is a great question! There's some nuance here. If you are having persistent concussion symptoms, I am releasing a video shortly (make sure you subscribe to the channel so you see it (notifications on)), that will explain what causes persistent symptoms in more detail. One of the things that causes persistent symptoms is chronic neuro-inflammation. So although the injury to the brain (neurometabolic cascade) recovers in a month or so, inflammation can linger - especially if you have gut issues, food sensitivities, sleep dysregulation, etc. Alcohol damages the gut and is pro-inflammatory (i.e., increases inflammation) - so, if inflammation is one of the drivers of your symptoms, then alcohol will set you back (even small amounts), increase your symptoms and delay recovery even further. If inflammation is NOT an issue for you, then you may be able to tolerate a few drinks here and there. So it just depends on what is driving YOUR symptoms. This is different for everyone and it's usually a combination of a few factors.
@@CompleteConcussions thank you for the speedy reply! I’ve got notifications on and have already began binge watching your podcast on Spotify during my walks 👍🏼 This may sound silly, but say if you intake alcohol, and you feel fine on the night, would that indicate that it is A-OK? Or would it be the after effects that you would look in to? I know I’m asking a lot here. I just don’t want to give up my social life for the next 9 months (or however long it might take) 😅
Dr Marshall, what if the person is young but 4 yrs in , no proper treatment, POTS w/ small fiber neuropathy, can they still fully heal or have you seen a case heal that fits that profile ?
Is the "Concussion Fix Program" referred at the end of your video a separate on-line course available to those suffering of a concussion (like me)?, or it is include in your "Complete Concussion Management Training Course" for Physical Therapists? Thanks.
Hi Elizabeth, The Concussion Fix program is an online program specifically for concussed patients! It teaches you how to take control of your recovery, what things work, what doesn't, AND connects you with a network of hundreds of other patients going through the same journey as you. You can check it out here: concussiondoc.io
I've had chronic stress headaches for a few years now that I developed after divorce...and became exacerbated with an injury in BJJ. It was definitley connected to my shoulder...and I was seeing both a chiropractor and a massage therapist pre-pandemic. But the symptoms never really fully went away. Even a GP couldn't really figure out what was going on. Now those same symptoms might be causing pro-longed concussion symptoms? Month three...I've improved alot. My thinking is pretty much back to normal. I still can't do hardly anything without getting light-headed though which is incredibly frustrating. I was highly active before my concussion.
How are u now by any chance
I got noise induced hyperacusis / noxacusis from a wedding and a lifetime of concerts (sometimes not wearing the best hearing protection). Are there any parallels between my condition and concussions? I want to believe that I can form new nerves and neural connections to reduce this pain over time. Thanks for all that you do!! - Kyle from Waterloo 🇨🇦
You should look into upper cervical chiropractic get some x rays of your C1 atlas to see if it's out of alignment and restricting cerebrospinal fluid pressure in your brain. This is what is healing my PCS condition.
With c 19 in Ontario everything is shut down or shorter hours
Ty this is scary. I just paased the 2 wks point and symptoms have not subsided. Mri on wed.
Don't fret you still have a chance. I don't. I've had 4 years of head pressure and dizziness. I wish my mother never have birth to me.
OK Doc, now check this out. I'm a Vet. in my 50's but my concussions were a result of my upbringing. From my sophomore year till my late 2019, I've been in shit, over 50 -60 street altercations with individuals and situations that needed to be dealt with, and talking ain't as good walking. Since June 2017 I've had all the symptoms of your post concussions descriptions have had my way of life in a chokehold and the Doctors here on Maui need some serious help. I'm told I have Vestibular impairment, my neck has arthritis and protruding discs, along with my PTSD and Bipolar I diagnosis which I don't truly agree with. I have tried to work but consistently be sent home then let go because of all these symptoms that your statement can be quickly managed. I wear numerous scars on my face and head as a result of my being hardhead but these symptoms have altered my way of life and I've lost my sense of purpose. I'd appreciate any assistance you can give.
Vestibular electric systems?
I’m 9 weeks in and my vision is getting worse shakier and eyes twitching I have all the dizziness and nausea and disorientation again I don’t know what to do I’m following your program
I don't see you in our program...if you are in the program, why watch TH-cam videos? we have full blown instructional program inside the Concussion Fix! Also, you can direct message myself or any of the other instructors with your exact problem areas and attend our live group sessions. So if you are in the program, message me there!
I got hashi motor after my concussion. Would or could that have developed from the concussion?
Moto
Hi Dr. Do you take workmans's comp B'se i got injured from work a door fell on my when I bent. I was fine but after a days something is wrong. I don't to be given the run around when I know you guys are here.
Some of our clinics do! clinics.completeconcussions.com
How do I find a new concussion doc when they say there's nothing more they can do? In GTA.
completeconcussions.com/find-a-clinic
Hi, Will eye sight get back to normal with vision therapy? What about ringing in the ears from cincusion
That depends on the issue! Vision is heavily tied to neck function...as is tinnitus in the ears. Tinnitus can also be related to inflammation, jaw function, etc. So fixing the issues depends on correctly identifying the drivers - this is where most go wrong! Check out our Concussion Fix program for more info on how you can figure this out and save a ton of time and speed up the results big time! concussiondoc.io/offer/the-concussion-fix/
Going through my third month of treatment for a mild concussion, but I am still experiencing attention, concentration and remembering difficulty. Other than doing memory games, how can these symptoms be effectively treated since being told that may become permanent.
Memory games don't work...cognitive issues following concussion are typically due to other issues that need to be addressed - inflammation, blood flow, somatic symptoms, etc.
noted, thanks. With my accident, I broke my right upper arm at three places...no surgery yet but a lot of pain and anxiety...@@CompleteConcussions
Man shut up!! Do u Have a headache??? No? Then shut up!!!
I had similar problems and changed my diet helped. No gluten, sugar, prosessed food etc. Much animal protien and omega 3. Still have some issues with light sensitivity but congestive function restored.
If your symptoms last over two weeks you could have a neck misalignment that is partially blocking the flow of cerebrospinal fluid and causing damage to your central nervous system. You may want to check out an upper cervical chiropractor and get that straightened out it really is helping me with post concussion syndrome.
There is no evidence at all that neck misalignment does anything to cerebrospinal fluid and there is also no evidence that neck misalignment causes damage to the central nervous system. Neck "misalignment" (which is a misnomer because the neck isn't "misaligned" - it's more neck dysfunction) causes similar symptoms to a concussion - this is why correcting it can help symptoms improve. So you are correct that neck work can be helpful in some patients (the ones who have underlying neck dysfunction driving their symptoms) but the current evidence does not suggest that it's due to those reasons. Glad it's helping you!
@@CompleteConcussions Hi Cameron thanks for getting back to me. I have to respectfully disagree with no evidence my chiropractor Kevin Leach has a channel Progressive Chiropractic and he does shows with Tyler Evans discussing a wide range of research papers about upper cervical and it's effect on CSF. I recall them mentioning once about working with you in the past and I assume you had a bit of a falling out unfortunately. Anyway maybe check out Scott Rosa he has done a lot of work in this area or watch "Jim McMahon receives cervical adjustments" about the famous football player and his positive experience with atlas orthogonal. They show MRI images of his neck and you can see what appears to be blockage of the fluid but I am not claiming to be an expert. Also I've watched hundreds of positive testimonials about it for all kinds of issues. I'm sorry to keep messaging people in your channel about this but I really believe it should be one of the treatments to try for concussion and you have a pretty big platform. I just wish someone had mentioned it to me earlier and hopefully you can do so it in the future. Take care, Wes.
@@wesporter2176 I don't recognize the names. You can disagree all you want but the scientific evidence doesn't support this claim. I am a chiropractor and I agree 100% that treatment of the neck can help relieve symptoms...there is just no evidence that it is relieving CSF flow/pressure.
@@CompleteConcussions Fair enough who's research are you referring to because these guys show MRI's of before and after and you can see big increases in the CSF and blood flow in the brain.
@@wesporter2176 that's not research. That's what we call "n of 1". That is anecdotal at best because you can theoretically handpick the cases that prove your point and ignore the ones that don't. You show the "good cases" to patients to help sell your treatments/programs. Research requires sequential cases and blinding to avoid bias, specific measurement techniques to quantify change, and peer-review. And then, once you have one study, it needs to be replicated a number of times before we can say "yes, this is legit".
When can I return to combat sports after concussion? Thank you
when your healthcare provider says you can
I had a bad concussion in November and am developed post concussion getting slightly better then worse again.
Now having work on my head and neck at osteopath and now 80% better.
Saw behavioural optometrist and blue glasses really help with indoor lighting which is still wearing.
I could get a neurologist referral now but feel that little is to be gained.
Do try walking in nature, meditation and anything that calms down the parasympathetic nervous system. There is loads stuff exercises etc online. Gargling singing help too 😂🤣😂
Join a choir ?
It can feel overwhelming to have problems like headaches, loss of balance, impairment of cognition, brain fog, light and sound sensitivity etc. one at a time they are enough pile them up and it’s hard to remain cheerful 🤣😂🤣.
Also worth looking at diet I eat low carb to keep my glucose levels in check have lots fermented foods and have upped my fresh fish now too.
I now walk every day and am hoping to start back at the gym once I shake off covid.
Keep the faith this channel is amazing and so bloody uplifting.
Go for it the rest of your lovely life awaits you xxx
Amazing!
Every expert I have talked to (physiatrist, neuro-psychologist, etc) have said there is no evidence yet that vision therapy by neuro optometrist does anything and that neck adjustments by chiropractors are not only not effective but dangerous. Where is your proof?
where is yours?
@@CompleteConcussions I dont mean to be confrontational. I greatly value your videos and your work, which I have learned a lot from.
Reading is difficult as my concussion symptoms have come back in the last year very strongly, and I have to choose which professionals I trust.
Was hoping you could give me a reason to trust in vision therapy over and against what my neuro-psychologist, my physiatrist, my physio and my sports doctor have told me.
Do have office in Henderson Nevada 89011
I had a concussion Nov 2016. I’ve been lightheaded ever since. 4.5 years. My primary care physician, has no clue. No cure for concussion. Ear Dr, Ear Clininc, a Neurologist, UPMC, countless xrays, about 4 MRIs. Several Concussion Chiropractors, all want to charge large amounts of money. But all say, there is no cure for a concussion. Even the exercises where you stand on your head or hold your head upside down to move the crystals around in your inner ear. Tried most things I could find. I can’t even go to my gym, because I get lightheaded. Haven’t found a Dr or med center with any answers yet. I have given up on the medical field. Being 68, I am now considered old and complaining. Now I only get the medical staff not even the Dr that I make an appt with. Meanwhile, I am still lightheaded and hoping for an answer.
Hi Tim. Unfortunately there is a lot of crap and misinformation out there. Lightheadedness is generally a sign of autonomic nervous system dysregulation (blood flow issues) - has anyone done any type of exercise/treadmill testing on you? The treatment for what you are experiencing consists of doing things (diet, sleep, breathing, etc.) to regulate your autonomic nervous system as well as incorporating subsymptom threshold exercise testing. We have an online program that has been quite helpful for patients like you who can't seem to find answers. Check out concussiondoc.io if you're interested. All the best!
You should look into upper cervical chiropractic get some x rays of your C1 atlas to see if it's out of alignment and restricting cerebrospinal fluid pressure in your brain. This is what is healing my PCS condition.
@@CompleteConcussions Thank you for this advice I willl look into it.
@@wesporter2176 thanks I’ll try it. I still get lightheaded. Really can mess up your life.