The Story Of Wallis Simpson: Scheming Seductress Or Misjudged? | Before They Were Royal | Journal
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- Wallis Simpson - Judged as a scheming seductress who tore the Royal Family apart, or the most maligned woman in modern history? Wallis Simpson was the original American divorcee to throw a bombshell into the British Royal Family - but she led a rich and colourful life long before she met Prince Edward and became the Duchess of Windsor. From her early years, travelling around China, alone, during which she is rumoured to have had an affair with Count Galeazzo Ciano, later Mussolini's son-in-law and Foreign Minister. On January 10th 1931, Wallis was introduced to Prince Edward and this would lead to an explosive chain of events that would lead to an historic split in the British Royal Family. We reveal all the sides to the notorious Wallis Simpson.
'Before They Were Royal' uses expert testimony and reveals archive footage to unveil all the sides to some notorious figures in the Royal Family. - บันเทิง
I believe Edward loved her. But Wallis was not that enamored, and bored of him quickly.
Loved, nothing, he was OBSESSED with her!
Mrs. Wallis Simpson was in love with her husband Ernest. She keep writing to him even she was about to be married to Prince Edward. Wallis played with FIRE and thought it will always be that way. Never in her mind that Prince Edward become obsessed with her and she started to panic. She wants to cut it off but it was too late for her. She realize how Ernest was so important to her....and not Prince Edward.
Wallis unfortunately was stillborn in the era where young women’s only option was that she married well - according to her social class!
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You play with fire, sometimes you get burned. She didn't mind burning them, she just didn't expect to get burned herself.
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Yes. She played him and she got what she didn’t want. I have little respect for women who plot and scheme by manipulating men and then cry and call themselves victims. As far as I’m concerned, she got what she deserved and the blame rests squarely on her shoulders…as it should be.
Excellent and interesting documentary. Thanks for sharing more of the truth about the unfortunate situation.
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She could have just went back to America and said no!!! Her uncle was gonna leave her millions if she hadn’t married Edward. All the marriages that the royal family were against ended up standing the rest of time. Edward and Wallace as well as Charles and Camilla. I feel like living as a royal under the microscope you should be able to pick whomever the heck you want as a partner if that’s who they love. The one they should have used their power to stop they didn’t and that’s Megain and Henry
She didn't need to marry him. To say she had no choice because of his threats to harm himself.... that is his problem. I know that sounds cold but why tie yourself to someone who has no care for themselves. He needed help but not a marriage until he was well.
She wasn’t in love with him! He was obsessed not in love with her! He was a stalker and kept threatening to kill himself if she left him!
I think history has proven she didn't want him to abdicate but he threatened to kill himself. It was a no win situation for her, a situation she sadly misjudged.
Agreed. If she could marry him and be Queen fine. If she was going to be an outlaw Dutchess nah
I sincerely doubt that Edward would have killed himself had Wallis left him at the outset. He liked himself too much to off himself. He was just a master manipulator.
@@LisaD007 you do make a very good point.
Prince Edward was mentally ill. He most likely had low testosterone, possibly stemming from a childhood illness. He was riddled with severe anxiety and was incredibly immature. He knew he was not cut out to be king. His obsession with Wallace was a convenient excuse and he had a complicit scape goat in the woman he married. I think Wallace was a far better person that anyone gave her credit for during her lifetime. The royal family blamed Wallace for Edward’s behavior and that was incredibly unfair. The royal family knew that he had a pattern of immature and irresponsible behavior. Wallace took the blame for a Peter Pan man child who those closest to him KNEW he was a train wreck.
Wallace went on to be remarkable when sent to places no other royals wanted to go. She truly made the best of the situation. It is sad though. I do wonder why she didn’t just try to stay with her true love- who was Simpson. She created her own drama by having the affair with Edward-
But how many in her situation would not have been flattered to have, what was thought to be one of the worlds most eligible bachelors, fawning over you, giving you beautiful jewelry, clothes and other gifts? I think many would be tempted.
With all due respect, her name is spelled "Wallis", not Wallace.
He kinda threw her under the bus in that abdication speech. Coward through and through.
I completely agree that a public apology was due Wallis. It has become apparent, through her own letters, that she felt like this romance was whirlwind. He had many other lovers and they weren't judged so harshly. He might have shown a tiny bit of constraint to keep his crown. He was a tiny weak and not so bright man. I feel like this was a fun conquest for Wallis to win. I think she was sorry that she did win! What was she supposed to do when he chose to leave his throne? She could have walked and allowed him to kill himself but she knew she'd made her own bed and created a beyond difficult situation for both of them. He was only a very weak little man who in the end trapped her into playing a mother role to the former king. She paid her price so that he wouldn't look worse to his country. I can't even imagine the boredom she lived with... and died with. Such a cautionary tale! All that glitters is not gold.
Silly me, but I don't think a Nazi sympathizer deserves an apology.
@@idalily3810 Yeah, I''m with you. Sure, they treated each other terribly with how she would berate him to tears, but he'd also used threats of suicide to trap her. And, in the end, he also said that Hitler wasn't so bad and she slept with and spied for a nazi.
They kinda deserved each other and all the misery.
@@idalily3810 Silly me, but you should educate yourself before spewing misinformation. Anytime a naive fool says she was a Nazi sympathizer, I have to laugh at the fact that there are gullible idiots who still think that. Sad.
@@idalily3810 she wasn’t a Nazi sympathizer, FBI looked into that avd found zero evidence to back up that claim. Stop spreading misinformation, it’s a bad look.
Wallis Simpson was a convenient way for government to get rid of Edward. He wasn’t king material. He was just interested in being a playboy and breaking rules. The government knew that Edward was dangerous to the country. Wallis didn’t want to marry him but he threatened to kill himself. She was put in a trap by Edward and was a prisoner, not with bars but with a very needy Edward. I think she wanted to brag about having an affair with a king but expected to move on with Edward a feather in her cap, but it all back fired. No one can stand being around a very needy person for very long.
12:04 I wonder to what extend a king can be dangerous while he does not rule or govern but only reigns.
@@leekamini6354 a king or president is dangerous when they become an ally of a dictator like Hitler, or Putin. Edward’s plan was for Hitler to take over England by constant bombing and then put him back on the throne. If Edward was on the throne then he would have been Hitler’s puppet or worse, been killed. Thank God for the Yanks. They saved England from Hitler and Edward. Edward was very dangerous because his only thoughts were Edward and his obsessive love for Wallis.
@@leekamini6354 after abdication, Edward and Wallis visited Hitler and were great pals. This is history not my opinion. If we forget the past, like the Holocaust, we are doomed to repeat it.
@@leekamini6354 Edward’s plan was to have Hitler bomb England into submission ,which he almost succeeded but for Churchill and the USA, while he hid out in France and when England would surrender to Hitler then he would put Edward back on the throne and Hitler would have complete control of Edward. Edward was a weak human being and a traitor to his country. He’s the one who urged Hitler to bomb England into submission. That’s a dangerous person in my book.
I’ve seen some of the films of them in color, and the colors of their outfits matched! Impeccable style.
It was hard for women to be independent in those days. I remember my mother could not get a credit card without my father’s permission. Women did not have the choices and opportunities in the early 20th century that they have now. Of course, all of this could have been avoided if there were no extramarital affairs.
The Duke was furious that her name and title weren’t mentioned at the Bahamas. He was so delusional.
Wallis was a social climber back home in the United States. She hit pay dirt when she met Prince Edward. The rest is history.
Exactly the same as Meghan Markle. Two narcissists in a pod.
Edward was hardly intellectually stimulating. On top of that, he was a very selfish, irresponsible man. Whilst I can feel sympathy for the way he grew up, I cannot find sympathy for how he lived his life as an adult. I read somewhere once that he had a lot of mental health issues and some perverse proclivities. I certainly would not have wanted to marry him. Anyone who reads more books and/or watches more documentaries about Edward will see that he often did unnecesesary and cruel things (I am thinking here about how he once went to a royal greenhouse and had all of the blooms sheared from a ton of orchids(?) and sent them to Wallis, totally unconcerned about the years it took the people in charge to cultivate and grow those plants. It was so unnecessary and over the top. If I were the woman he did that for, I would not be favourably impressed at all. That sort of action does not speak of tender love but of insensitivity and selfishness.
Wallis was much more complex. In many ways she was a victim of her socio-cultural milieu, but I do tend to think she was also a social climber. I do feel sympathy for her especially in the last years of her life after Edward passed. Her crimes, if indeed there were any, did not warrant her punishment. Loneliness is perhaps the greatest suffering of all, and I believe that even surrounded by people before Edward died, Wallis was lonely. It is one thing to be alone and lonely, but to be amongst many people and still feel lonely is perhaps the worst torment to a soul. The object lesson from Wallis's life is to be careful what you wish for.
I agree everything you wrote, well said.
@@79Bobola Thank you. The more I read about this story, the more Wallis seems to be both a victim of her own aspirations and a victim of Edward's selfishness. I do not think Edward wanetd to be king even if the church and government would have accepted Wallis. I have to question whether or not Edward really knew what love was and whether or not he really loved Wallis. She was the focus of intense anger and hatred. Her name and reputation were dragged through the mud by the goverrnment and the palace. She was not happy and had no peace. Who would be happy in that sort of situation? Who could have peace in her life in that sort of situation? If you really love someone, you would not put them through that after the person told you she wanted to end the relationship.
Edward was not about to let her go but not because he really loved her. She was his excuse not to become king and spend the rest of his life living the way his father and other ancestors had lived. If he walked away from the crown without Wallis as an excuse, then the anger and resentment would be focused on he alone, and he would have been deemed selfish and irresponsible, abandoning his country, his duty, and the people who loved him. No, for Edward, the better solution was to use Wallis as his excuse and let her take all of the heat not just at that time but for the rest of her life. She received death threats for goodness sake! Who could truly love someone and put him or her in a position to receive death threats? If any of those threats were truly serious, she could have been murdered. Do you think for one moment I would put someone I loved in the position of possibly being murdered? This is why, all things considered, I blame Edward more than Wallis for this fiasco.
The ironic thing is he was ill suited to being king anyway, and by abdicating out of selfishness, he actually made it possible for England to have one of the greatest monarchs in history. England never would have Elizabeth II had Edward not been so selfish and irresponsible. He never could have achieved for England what Elizabeth achieved. It was a very perverse twist of fate that his selfish, irresponsible behaviour resulted in one of the most glorious reigns in history.
Edward's selfishness, unfortunately, ended up ruining his brother's happy life and causing him premature death, thus leaving behind his widow and two young daughters, one of which was only 25 and had to shoulder the enormous burden of becoming queen in a man's world, not unlike Elizabeth I. Elizabeth adored her father. She was so young and unprepared, and she had to face this unbelievable burden---her life changed forever---at the tender age of 25 at the same time she had to stoically grieve her father's death. Ascending to the throne forever changed her life, her marriage, and her relationship to her young children. Anyone who thinks this was glamorous or wonderful better take another long hard look at the facts and think about it.
The amount of misery Edward caused was stunning. I read that in later years Wallis spent very little time with him and did not show him much affection or concern even after he fell ill and was confined to his lonely bed in his lonely room. Most of us are inclined to feel some pity for Edward at this point, but the fact is he reaped what he sowed.
It is a shame, to say the least, that he caused such physical and emotional suffering in the lives of the people he "claimed" to love. If witnesses and his own letters are to be believed, he despised his own family for very questionable, selfish reasons. To. my mind, Wallis was stuck for the rest of her life with a very selfish, boorish, one dimensional, and mentally disturbed man, and by the time he died, he had left her so isolated and bereft of anyone's love, affection, and devotion that she fell prey to an unscrupulous, immoral lawyer. He last months and years must have been horrific. This was not a romantic fairy tale. This was a horror story.
@@user-lz6dm5lk9y Exactly. It bothers me that people still slander her, I don’t think she deserves it at all. I also think it’s awful how Edward treated Wallis while she sat alone receiving death threats in London, just a sad story all together.
Charles wanted to meet her after her but the queen mother wouldn't let him. She died the same date and almost time I was born. I always found this interesting.
She was a human. Who fell in ❤love with a man. It was unfortunate for the the both of them given the time.
Take a look a Camilla……if someone told you she would be Queen there would have been a uproar. But a good 30 years of grooming created the Queen. Very well could have been the same with Wallis .
And a couple nazi sympathizers on the throne was exactly what the country needed. (This is sarcasm, before anyone comes after me. Nazi sympathizers in a position of power is the last thing anyone needs.)
She rolled the dice. Unfortunately for her she took a risk that she paid for with the remainder of her life. It began as a lark to play with a Prince; she didn’t realize the Prince had never matured beyond age 16 nor ever would. It’s a cautionary tale.
So Markle is just a 100x vile version of Wallis
Not to mention that Wallis had great style, and that Markle thing has none at all.
As I am watching I'm getting a megan markle vib
Me too! Prince Philip was right in drawing a parallel between them.
You said it.....!!!!
Hum, Scotty Bowers had an interesting story on her, but in all honesty what else was she supposed to do but marry?
Oh that was a good book!!!
I just read that too! Her autobiographer, I can’t remember her name off hand, read his book and came out and said she agreed with what he said, considering the stories she heard herself about them.
Wallis didn’t love Edward, she didn’t even respect him. All their married life she called him PeterPan. And still wrote letters to her ex for 2 years complaining about Edward.
Yeah he was a spoiled man-child, so who cares.
I don't think she had the 'balls' for public life (plz excuse my language) She had no clue what she was messing with when she married him...and I don't think she wanted to marry him but felt she had to at that point
Now here Charles and Camilla the other woman are king and queen. They exiled Edward and Wallis
Charles and Camilla are embarrassing.
@@thomasvanantwerp728C & C could only hope to have 1% of the style and dignity of The Windsors.
Misjudged. Look at the crumb who was crowned queen with Charles, in comparison to the Duchess of Windsor?
You're right about that!!!
My grandmother and Wallis had mutual acquaintances. My grandmother graduated from Radcliffe in 1900 and was a librarian at Miss Porter's School in Farmington, Connecticut and then later at Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter, New Hampshire. Consequently she was familiar with all the uppercrust families in the eastern USA.
So Wallis was known in those circles. And as my grandmother said quite obliquely, "wallis was not the sort of person ANYBODY would want marrying into their family." And the way she said it, I didnt dare ask for details.
I learned later that Wallis was a courtesan, a social climber who had many affairs with wealthy men. That was how she made her way in the world.
I've Always Wondered How She "Supposedly Supported Herself"-- While Still Living in China After Separating From Husband # 1- & PRIOR To Marrying Husband # 2.
Your Grandmother lied to you. She didn't know anything about anyone or any of those people.
😅 hahaha .... Your amateur and childish attempt at humor falls flat, dear. You instead are the joke.
What a bunch of rubbish. People still to this day, spew hateful misinformation about Wallis, sad.
@@79Bobola Rubbish, dear.??? I think not. The facts are rather clearly established. Sad only that she chose that path.
She would have made a better Queen than Camilla……
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Not true
Imagine being loved sooo much that a king would give up his throne to be with you. She was unfairly blamed for something she did not initiate neither had the power to control.
You have a very romantic view of her that is not justified by the facts. She was a social climbing adulteress and David was a weak, lazy man. Both of them were Nazi sympathizers. They deserved each other and their fate.
Darling, there is quite a difference in being loved, and in being the object of obsession of a mentally ill man.
Exactly, thank you
Hahaha .... That's hilarious. You're quite the Comedian. You know any other good Jokes.???
@@watthaile2053 Why tf are you so obsessed with slandering someone who is dead?? Seems like a total waste of time.
what do you mean, before they were Royal? Wallis never was royal, never got the HRH
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Miss Wallace needs to be apologized to...
For what? Being a Nazi sympathizer?
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Does anyone see a close comparison of Wallis and Meghan markle??
Well it is obvious they are both manipulative social climbers, but other than that, not a lot if similarities. Wallis had quite a nice family and educational background, while Markle has none, and Wallis had great, great style, and Markle has none. So not really all that much comparison after all, although Markle would like for the world to think so. Markle even copies many if Wallis' outfits. For example, her Oprah interview dress is pretty much an out-and-out copy of the Duchess of Windsor's dress.
Inglaterra necesitaba una reina joven y pura que le diera herederos saludables.... todo lo que Wallis no era
Good point