First, it helps if you actually move, not just take a several-month vacation. Why would anyone enjoy being in limbo long-term, unless they're specifically setting out to travel full time? Like sure, she misses her bed, AT HOME. Because she didn't make Mexico her home, at all.
@@porfiry I sold everything in Canada and moved to Mexico 13 months ago. I have a lot of the same feelings as the woman in the video. but it doesnt make me want to leave. I do move around to new places or plan weekend trips so that I am frequently challenged by new settings and circumstances and I have also stayed in certain places for multiple months. but it doesnt change the fact that we will never be integrated in the society and community the way we were in our native countries. I dont think that these feelings should be written off as misplaced expectations or some kind of weakness. they are a simple reality.
@@RedroomStudios I can appreciate all that, but I wouldn’t be so sure it’s impossible to *ever* integrate fully…I don’t live in the area yet, but I’ve been there 15 or 20 times, and have met a whole lot of people who’ve left the US or Canada and have no intention of ever going back. They seem to feel pretty fully integrated. That certainly isn’t the case for everyone, I’m sure, but I don’t think it’s hard to integrate if you just embrace everything that’s both amazing and uncomfortable about it.
This really seems like a case of homesickness and many misplaced expectations. If you have any intention of moving to Mexico or any other country for that matter, you have to have an understanding of what that means for the long term. Many people move to Mexico because they've been down here for vacation or watched too many travel videos and they think, hey why not do it on a permanent basis? She is clearly not the type of person who embraces change..
It really is largely about breaking those routines...shaking up your life. If you want your old routines, Mexico will never work. I did ship my knives down here. And honestly, there are truly amazing cheeses!! Gourmet Garage, Pancho's deli....better cheeses than I had at home. Don't shop at Walmart and expect to be thrilled.
@@tamaramitchell9601 Hi Tamara, I agree and I've been living here retired in Cuernavaca Morelos Mexico for many years now and I have gotten into a routine and will probably move somewhere else in Mexico or Asia. It's about breaking up routines and finding a new fresh place to live that's affordable. Mexico has so many different cities and climates that you can spend your entire life just checking them out to see if it's for you. My mother lived in San Miguel de Allende for years and that's a great city to live even though it's more pricey and it's full of expats like Ajijic/Chapala which is both good and bad.
I've been here about 2 months. The first month I was in an Airbnb while I searched for a rental house. This month involved getting all my stuff delivered from the mover and getting settled in. I am feeling what she felt at the 3 month period. I'm settled....now what? But, I have just started going to aquaerobics 2 mornings a week at the aquatic center, my gardener comes on Monday mornings, and I go to church on Sunday mornings. There is a great women's group that meets for lunch every 2 weeks, and there are always live concerts and walking my dog for a long walk every day. Today my dog and I went to the new dog park at Tobolandia and had a blast! I might get involved with the kayaking group that goes out on the lake, or a hiking group....and I'm landscaping the yard here at my rental house. To give my life purpose, I will likely start volunteering with animal shelters or helping at the Have Hammer workshops. I might start a new gardening group with speakers....or a hiking group for slow-pokes like me. I'm finding this period to be a great opportunity to explore all the other little towns on the lake and I plan to get into Guadalajara to see the fantastic zoo, probably a concert or two, maybe some shopping at Tlaquepaque. And then there is all the REST of Mexico!! I am totally loving the weather here, the friendly people, feeling safe wherever I go, and trying new things. Sure, there isn't every product we have at home, but between all the wonderful tianguis, the Fresh Market, SuperLake, and Pancho's....I'm really not missing anything and I'm finding products I like even better. I do not miss the horribly hot weather or the wildfire smoke in Oregon and I'm sure I won't miss the snow in winter. So, for those of us who were initiated by Judy King were coached, it all depends on your sense of adventure with the need for considerable flexibility. And it takes discipline to learn Spanish. I've got a long way to go, but it is absolutely a great way to combat dementia....and just think of all the wonderful people you can talk with on a more personal level when you learn their language! It is easy to get lazy in Ajijic because so many Mexicans speak some English there, but Ajijic was not my cup of tea. I prefer Riberas, Chapala, Jocotepec....where it is helpful to know a bit more Spanish. Every day I become more grateful that I went through the effort to move here and it feels more and more like home all the time.
Thanks Jerry and Lori. The phenomenon of homesickness isn't discussed enough. It should be discussed because it is hard to prepare for. You don't know what you will miss.
Good point. Really hard to know what you'll miss until you're somewhere else. And it takes two years to get accustomed to a new location -- even if it's a move within your own country. When I made a move to Colorado, I felt like I left my friends back in the midwest.
Hello, thank you for this video. My husband and I have been playing with the idea of retiring in Mexico. We spent a week in Ajijic last month, and the heat was too much for me. I wanted to go during the hottest part of the year and see if I could stand it and found out that being there more than a week would bee too much. We traveled much all around Ajijic and for a mobility challenged person it was almost too much for me. Your guest made a most important point, one must have a purpose if one is to have a happy life, I might add, that goes for any place a person lives. Thank you for your input.
I moved to Mexico approx. 14 weeks ago. I think I just reached the end of my honeymoon period. I totally get what she means. However, in my case I have nothing to go back to, so I think Mexico is going to be my home for the foreseeable future.
Good interview. There is a honeymoon phase. When that phase is over ,you have to ask yourself some honest questions and prioritized which ones are important for you such as the affordable cost of living, the language barrier, the noise, nice people, your purpose and routine and etc. You are embarking on a new life experience, some new things to know or learn....it really depends. Everybody is different.
@@ShauninParadise Mexico is not for everyone. People are different. Some will be fine, most will not be. It is what it is. 70% of those who move to Mexico wind up leaving and not returning. The proof is in the pudding. Just because one stays does NOT make them better than someone who leaves.
When I first moved to Mexico I had already purged my life back in Canada too. And I’m so glad I had,… because I totally would have moved back and missed ALOT! I say, if you can get over the first 6 months, then you will never want to leave. If you give up before that… well… it’s totally understandable… but not recommended 😊. Best wishes to you ☮️‼️
She hasn't given expat life enough time. I am an expat in SE Asia and it takes a while to build the expat life. She expected things to work immediately. It takes a while to figure things out. It took me at least a year. I have been out of the state more than ten years. She is looking for America in Mexico. She's homesick, that's all. She's not really interested in other cultures. You have to be able to make your own purpose. Too bad for her.
I prefer being in Mex., but I want it to be original. Some expat communities can be a bit much, so it's better to be away from the center of expat activities. There's lots of benefits living in Mex. such as lower labor rates. I just fixed my transmission in Mex. and it cost $850 - in the USA it and be 3,000 or more.
@@RedroomStudios No, if you are living on a fixed low income it's one of the best reasons. There's also many other countries in Asia, Latin America that are affordable for a retired person living on a low fixed income.
I'm confused - sheets? Pillows? Knives? These can be purchased or transported. Routines can be made. It seems like it's not the place for people who aren't very flexible.
We are retiring in 7 months and starting in Mexico. We have lived outside of the US before. We speak Spanish. We hope to take 4-5 years and slow travel through Central n South America then retiring in our favorite spot.
I am the opposite of her, I am homesick when I am not in MX. She did not give it enough time to make her own routine, know her neighbors, pick her favorite stores and places to have fun.
A lack of purpose in life can eventually spiral someone down into the depths of depression and, if it goes on too long, it can land you in severe depression where you can't even get out of bed to shower and brush your teeth. A lack of purpose is what people with PTSD and severe depression experience, along with other serious symptoms, so it is not to be taken lightly. I'm glad Chris recognized what that "lack of purpose" was doing to her before it went on too long.
A year ago, we moved from one part of a US town to another part. We still have not adjusted and want to move back. We understand this lady very well because she is missing the things in the US that give her energy, joy and satisfaction.
These comments and feelings are not really about living in Mexico but more about leaving home to anywhere as on an extended vacation. Making a home in Mexico is like anywhere else. You eventually do get into a routine of living and enjoying friends and life as you would anywhere so long as you don't expect to be on a perpetual vacation.
I disagree with this statement. I've been in Mexico for 13 months now. lived in Ajijic for 6 months. stayed in over 20 places in total in Jalisco, Nayarit and Quintana Roo. I have enjoyed and even loved every place I have been. but what the woman in the video says I find true - life lacks that sense of purpose it had when you were living in your own country. you simply dont have those connections with the culture and community that were established over a life time. at home I used to wake up, take care of my cats, spend 2 hours watering my plants and yard in summer, make breakfast, go out take care of errands, complete other chores around the house, work on long term projects etc and interwoven in all this was relating with friends and acquaintances and family. here I wake up, make breakfast and then decide if I need any groceries or supplies... I am living in Guadalajara now and have had a Mexican girlfriend for 7 months. but it simply isnt the same. it doesnt make me want to leave but there is something missing.
As a young woman, I served in Peru for about 10 months. I spoke Spanish and really tried to live and work down there with the locals. After a few months though, I found myself longing for something intangible that I couldn't put my finger on. I eventually made friends with a couple, where one of them was from the US. I found myself visiting there a lot to spend time with them, and I realized that I was missing my culture, even though I enjoyed the Peruvian culture (which is part of my natural heritage). I think if I ever get to do some overseas living, it would definitely be on some kind of part-time basis, as I am also a creature of routine and really need some of the efficiencies of living in the US that is hard to find in Latin America. But, I loved Peru, feel connected to it since my family is from there, and hope to go back some day. I can relate to this woman very much.
I recently visited Nogales to have my transmission rebuilt and they did an excellent job. I enjoyed talking to the mechanics and also some merchants complaining about business - Nogales didn't have many visitors due to the border and maybe the covid hangover. I took the gentleman to a bar to have a beer with him so we could talk more. We hope to sell our Phx. Gold Canyon house to move to Mex.- we also have some Airbnb's. For me, life is more fun in Mex. and I prefer living there where people have more time for people and where good family values and mutual respect for others remains as part of the culture. I find those I do business with in Mexico to be of excellent character - fair and honest people and it's a whole lot more economical than in the USA.
No matter where you go there is always a honey moon phase.... everyone needs a purpose... volunteer..I missed my children..that's it....each to his own
I thought she was very brave and very transparent and Xpress her feelings. If you notice she did not put down Mexico she said it was her need to return home to her children and family.
What a great point, that I hadnt considered: "There is a big difference between vacation life (up to 3 months) and being an expat (6+ months)". If you stayed longer, and became an expat, you could buy that special pillow, order that specific laundry detergent online, get really involved with some clubs to make those friends and neighborly friends, create a routine etc. I will certainly keep that in mind since we are starting the longer "vacation life" at two weeks this year and growing a week each year for 5 years until we retire and then become 6 month snowbirds. I dont think I will have such a hard time with this, but I already know my husband will. So, despite only staying for weeks at a time, I think it will be important, crucial even, to bring some carefully considered "comforts of home" with us that I hadnt planned on previously.
In my opinion when you retired the activities are most important in Mexico or your home country,hiking ,kayaking ,cycling , surfing, etc local food and beer .Very nice lady with standard approach to the life she loves her surroundings and cheese 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 that's what make her happy.I have question if somebody can answer here.I love cheese as she does .Can somebody tell me please the name brand of cheese from US which is a good one. From my shopping experience in the US 🧀🧀🧀🧀 doesn't taste and has no smell .Any suggestions for good cheeses that mature for at least 6 months
That was very relatable content... other areas of Mexico might have one discover newer and better routines, like morning walks in the beach, or reading in a hammock... fish markets, or artisan market browsing. I didn't mind Ajijic, but it wasn't enough to hold my long term interest either, and the same goes for many. I did love seeing the older folks riding their bicycles though.
that isnt a sense of purpose. that is filling up time. I agree about Ajijic though. 6 months there was enough for me. the winter months Jan - Mar were really nice actually. but once you get into spring and it gets really hot and there are swarms of flies ruining your outdoor dining that really did it in for me. also had enough of the brutal cobblestone streets.
We're totally happy living in the Lake Chapala area, Ajijic is where we settled 10 months after leaving Canada 🇨🇦 We found friendships, very good food & weather living in a Mexican town, beautiful Mexican culture & people. Retirement living at its best. Full or Part time as lots of folks head north to visit family, but everyone is sure glad to be back home Lakeside.
When you haven't had previous experiences of moving or encountering radical changes in one's life, it is hard to made such a cultural adjustment. Longing for home is natural, but my feeling is that growth arises out of shaking things up. We learn about ourselves through change, and what is more exciting than rising to meet new challenges? Seems when the expat life works for somebody it is because they are not wishing to stay in the familiarity box. There is so much waiting for those who explore outside their home turf. Even though for this woman, Mexico isn't for her, my feeling is that she will return home enriched, with more understanding about life than before. It is generous of her to be so transparent about her needs with this audience. Wishing her well.
Perhaps these many reasons are why some people are snow birds and go back and forth as opposed to staying ? - - - People do differ. Does seem like it could be a bit boring for some people depending on expectations.
Good video, Mexico isn't for everyone and people need to know that. Visiting for a month will help a lot to get to know if Mexico is a good place to visit or live.
I would say try it for at least 6 months. To me the advantages outweigh any disadvantages because the US has become unaffordable for anyone living on a fixed low income. And there are so many other countries in Latin America and Asia that are affordable for many low income Americans.
The woman has symptoms of home sickness . It takes a year before you get use to living in a different country . I relocated with my job to over 8 countries and it is never easy . I found the Caribbean countries , Belize and Puerto Rico easy places to move to since language and culture are easy to acclimate to .
I disagree... I've been in Mex for 13 months now. it only took me maybe 2 months tops to get used to living here. I feel many of the same things this woman described. there are so many things about life back home that I miss... having a sense of purpose every day, family, friends, sense of belonging etc. but there are lots of things that I prefer about Mexico. the most important being freedom, but also the culture and history and of course the wonderful friendly people. for the vast majority of expats its a trade off and how you rank your priorities when choosing to move to a different country.
I'm afraid I'm a lot like this woman. I enjoy the things I have in the US. However, I feel I could live in Ajijic for a couple months knowing that if I missed my life back home, I would be there in a short amount of time.
Thanks Jerry. It is always helpful to see and consider all aspects of moving to another country. I'm planning to move to Puerto Morelos next year and I already know that there will be some things that will be a challenge. The toughest part is leaving my daughter and granddaughters, even knowing that I will go back a couple of times each year and hopefully they will come down as well. I'm 64 and learning Spanish is really hard but I hope I'll know enough by then. And I expect that I'll also be battling the mosquitos and it is tough seeing so many stray dogs. But moving to Mexico has been my dream since my first visit in 2003 so I'm going to give it my best effort. Also already have some volunteer opportunities in mind. Love to you & Lori! ☮️❤️❤️😎
Pammy, I live in Puerto Morelos . I hope you are on some of the local Facebook sites there. I love the beach lifestyle and the wonderful people. I hope we will run into each other once you make the move.
I've seen a lot of these older lonely USA women go back to the USA and get a African "boyfriend" and bring them back to Mexico. Talking about destroying a countries culture. Mexico and Mexican people have a deeply rooted belief in family. Mexico is a mono-culture and the perverted stuff from the USA does not fly in Mexico. So many Mexicans are starting to echo the sentiments: "Yankee go HOME!" because they do not want the USA perversion in their country.
@@LindaHutchings I liked living in a smaller community but having access to both Playa and Cancun. The beach is here are much better than either of those larger locations as well. I found the people incredibly kind and generous and it's been easy to make friends here.
I’ve been living in Mexico for 6 years. The learning to adapt never stops. You get better or you fail in my opinion. Going back to the USA isn’t an option for me. I don’t miss it. I miss things about it but overall here is much better for me
Going on vacation somewhere is not like living somewhere. I am always amazed by the number of people I see that come down for 2 weeks, buy a house, sell up everything back home and move down. It's always a good idea to be cautious, take your time, rent for a few years (even 5 years isn't too long) and make sure it's really for you. As this person said moving to Mexico or any foreign country is not for everyone.
Jerry you’re a world class gentleman . you’re my hero . Lori always so charming and I love your blue dress . You guys have amazing taste for outfits and joie de vivre !!!! love and hugs to you 🙏🥰🤗❤️
USA is deadly and expensive. Vicks vapor rub for mosquitoes. I brought a set of my own sheets. Towels etc. I love living $1 000 less per month and safe. I cook. I am 80 and will die here. I have been coming to Mexico for over 60 years. I live in Querétaro, and it is safe so far USA is deadly and expensive. I help non beggars and I do not beg. I can support myself with my pension, and. Living in Mexico. USA is too DEADLY and EXPENSIVE. I will be 80 in October.
Im under the impression that she has only been in Mexico for a few (3-6 )months. Mexico is very diverse so depending on where you live in Mexico changes your perspective. Ive lived in San Cristobal de las Casas and Puerto Morelos. Opposite experiences.SCDLC~ Historic Mountainous cool temperature cafe culture European vibe, with Walmart Costco Movie Theaters Museums shopping et. PM~Beach town with charm live music centotes big resorts, great restaurants lots of expats from the US and Canada. both locations have come a long way in food shopping options.Imported Cheeses are very available as are most items we foreigners are used to for cooking. Same laundry soaps, et that we are accustomed to. Both offer many workshops, events, diverse courses (classes of all kinds) to immerse in,, et to occupy what is essentially a more a laid back lifestyle. Both have volunteer options to give you purpose and a schedule if your inclined. No, Mexico is not for everyone but this particular video shows a level of homesickness that indicates limitations that are mostly self imposed. One should never move to a new a new country without trying it for a year first. You make new friends both Mexican and Foreign and create a social life and lasting bonds. The shopping options are so abundant including AMAZON MX for knives, bedding, decor et. Puerto Morelos even has a Sherwin Williams paint store now. Im an Interior Designer and the paint options were challenging for me before. A small thing I'm happy about. LOL I think there is a period after the honeymoon phase where it hits you, its then that you have to re-adjust and find all the things that make it work for you and all the people that help with that transition. That would apply no matter where you relocate to anywhere.
another one who clearly misses the point. this isnt about the appeal of the places or what they have to offer to fill up your time. it is about a sense of belonging and a sense of community that one gets over a lifetime of growing up in a culture as opposed to merely being able to exist comfortably within a foreign culture. many people who come here miss family and friends as well. there is an entire fabric of life that can only ever be simulated here at best.
Everybody has a different story and situation. I have Mexico as a vacation place and as a Latin culture country I could like and appreciate. Anyway to each his own. I think she might go back to visit.
Im glad she realised she couldnt handle it in Mexico earlier than later. Its interesting how we have put so much priority on our "stuff", material things and surroundings that make us happy instead of being in the moment enjoying each new experience being open to change and growing from it.
@@BR-ex9xp no need to i understand her completely Mexico is great its her unwillingness to part with her material life and security of her home life in America, her routine, comforts etc..thats holding her back.
Wow! I went down to study in the mid 90's . Stayed for 6 months and never wanted to come back to the USA. I became totally fluent in Spanish even learn double meaning. I'm 100% fluent. I love Mexico. I traveled and lived with a Mexican family all the times I went. I let go of things here in the US and completely adapted to the Mexican culture. For family reasons I i unfortunately had to come back to the US, take care of my elderly grandmother and also finish my college degree. I ended up marrying a Mexican from DF. Didn't work out. I'm now married with a woman from El Salvador for the last 15 years. Been to El Salvador and could totally live there too. Thank you for the great videos. I appreciate them.
It sure enough does help if one is fluent in Spanish as are my husband and I. And we knew our aim was to cultivate friendships primarily with our Mexican brethren which we have done. A purpose in life? … that is an innate thing … like being a naturally happy person … that won’t necessarily change (in a negative sense) just by moving to another country. We are going on 16 months since we moved from Dallas, Texas (where I lived for 67 years and my husband for 30 years), to Querétaro. We rent a lovely home in Jurica Campestre. We enjoy living in Mexico just as much as we did in the States. ¡Saludos! :-)
I totally get her. Going on vacation is not the same as permantly living there. Especially a foriegn country. I'm bilingual English/Spanish so imagene me moving to Russia !
Heard this many times from retired people even when moving within the US. My parents moved from NY to AL...out of the snow...super. Oh but the summers are very hot. Oh we miss family. Americans are prone to fantasy. Greener grass. The standard advice I hear is "try it for 6 months". That makes absolutely no sense to me. The mind set imo is to move to a place. I've moved to many places, hated most at first then slowly fell in love. It's not the place, it's you. Adaptability is a learned skill. There are rules. If you want to move to Mexico for example then imo learning Spanish is a requirement. If you're an American trying to live an American life in another country...good luck. It will never feel like home. And feeling like home is happiness. All the expats in other countries complaining all day every day about how it's "not like America" do not look happy to me. Burn your ship. It focuses the mind and that's where the battle is waged.
Some people like myself thrive on adventure and travel and experiencing different cultures. Others like Chris aren't that adaptable and prefer the routine of American life and culture. I don't think she had realistic expectations moving to Mexico because you notice she said at first she thought it was Paradise. I've lived in Mexico for years and what I enjoy are the differences between Mexico, the people, and the U.S. She sounds astonished that they don't have the same exact food here in the grocery stores as in America. I knew that before I moved here and I relish the differences. I've also been to Thailand many times and really enjoyed it there because being there is like being in another world. She probably just needs to find a relationship with a good man.
@@phildodd5532 There is no perfect place on the planet but I've found that if you are on a low fixed income and don't want to keep working until you drop dead then Mexico, Asia, and a few other areas in the world are great places to retire. I could never have lived in the US the past few years renting a 2 bedroom furnished apartment for about $400 US dollars a month. And I actually prefer the people here and the slower laid back more family oriented culture. Everyone is different.
I think you are being too harsh and judgemental towards her. I also thrive on adventure and travel. I have now lived in Mexico for 13 months. I have had a Mexican girlfriend for 7 months. but I still feel many of the same things she mentioned in this video. its not about thinking that the US (or Canada in my case) is better. its more about a sense of purpose and belonging. I wish that I was born Mexican because in almost every way it is a superior culture. but I wasnt. I will always be an outsider here.
Hi Lori and Jerry. We love to watch all your videos and they are extra fun to watch because of the cheerful smile of Lori. I always tell people Ajijic is not for everyone, to go spend time and decide for themselves. To me and my husband, Ajijic is our paradise.
He says: “they don’t have good cheese” 😅😅😅😅 it’s so funny: I think the opposite. I’ve lived in Texas for 16 years and I’ve always wondered why they don’t sell the variety of wonderful cheese we have in Mexico. It’s so funny how they put cheddar cheese on everything, or that cheese-like product (the yellow stuff they put on nachos and enchiladas). Oh well, I’ll enjoy good cheese when I visit my family in Mexico.
I missed the systems I learned growing up in USA. Legal, contracts, tax, dmv, libraries, real estate.....and of course my lack of fluidity within the Spanish language did not help.
There is a big transition she mentioned they are starting. Kids out, we retired. Thats is a huge change and very stressful. Basically your old life is gone. Thats a typical retirement phase one. Years later we are still evolving into a different life. The honeymoon phase. you can sit on the floor and eat ice cream at 3am, fly to Hawaii on a whim. It is great fun but travel, eating out does get old eventually. Issues walking away from old careers example. I was a Computer Science/Network Engineer guy married to my Registered Nurse wife. I had no problem walking a way from working at tech companies and starting a music hobby. My wife worked hard for her degrees and walking away from that prestige is very hard for her. No one cares about lines of code I wrote but some people have important jobs like saving someones life and I get the difference. She still has patients that were tiny neo natal intensive care babies contact her decades later to say hi. How hard would it be to walk away from your work/career life and do something different? Figure it out and the rest falls in place.
I traveled to Guadalajara and Ajijic just a few months ago for a few weeks. I am recently retired and scouting out places in Latin America. Ajijic is charming - enchanting really. It is clean, safe, historic, and has a surprisingly good scene for shopping and restaurants. However I decided it was not right for me. It is rather small town and I am a city boy. I think if I moved there I would love it for the first six months but soon grow bored with the place. Another thing are those treacherous cobblestone streets! Maybe I would consider Guadalajara.
I visited Ajijic last month for 12 days and had a very similar experience. It was wonderful and beautiful! But at the end of the day, I didn't feel I could ever be "at home" there. I was so relieved to get home, I guess I'm much more of a homebody than I really wanted to believe I was :)
I have enjoyed the different culture and people. It is an adventure. No one is required to stay in Mexico and not visiting back in the USA. Many people spend 6 months in Mexico and 6 months back in the States. I like having my own home too, so I bought a house.
There is more people trying to get into the USA than out. November, December, January is enough Mexico. She misses her food, cooking, stores that have her good stuff. I’m right with her. Wouldn’t give it up.
I agree with most of the comments below in that it is not Mexico per se that she can't adapt to. She probably wouldn't be able to adapt to any country with a different language, climate, cuisine, and shopping facilities from hers. That includes everywhere in the world with the possible exception of Canada. She didn't have a strong enough motive for moving, such as health costs, climate, and politics. Leaving 6 children behind will naturally make her homesick, which is perfectly understandable.
Guadalajara airport is 30 minutes away and a flight leaves for the US every day every hour. If you need a dose of home you’re not far away. Mexico has some amazing cheeses, so not sure what exactly she’s looking for…Kraft cheese? 😂. Anyways, I understand, after a few weeks in Mex I miss In-N-Out. Though there’s some amazing burger spots in Mex. Also sounds like she needs a hobby. Get together with expats, drink tequila and have fun.
your title is a bit misleading as she mentioned a couple times that it wasnt specific to Ajijic. I did leave Ajijic after 6 months specifically because I was tired of it. some of it had to do with the time of year. the winter months there were quite nice, cool with no bugs... but the extreme heat in spring combined with the swarms of flies when you are trying to dine out became unbearable. then once the rainy season starts you have to deal with puddles of water and mud when walking places(which is pretty much 100% of the time for me with no car). and finally I just got tired of the cobblestones and the broken, narrow sidewalks. they are charming at first but I cant believe I never twisted an ankle in the 6 months being there or didnt step in any dog shit. I'm really enjoying GDL now... it still has all the same elements of Mexican culture while being much more civilized with paved roads and nice wide sidewalks in many places. it is even more important here to speak Spanish though as you dont have a high number of "white" tourists that local businesses need to cater to.
I have lived in Mexico, Mazatlan - not Lake Gringo Land - and I love it. Everything is inexpensive, food is great and fresh year around. The lack of full-blown Amazon is annoying.
All my life when I traveled , well meaning people would say " Aren't you afraid to go there?"- ignoring the horrible violent crime that happens in our native New York. When I first retired I went to Florida and babysitted New York visitors who were thinking of moving but we're " afraid" they might not like it. Please! Life is short! Just do it - if you were happy at " home" you wouldn't have left.
@@JerryBrownTravels Thank you for your videos. I now live at the border of Mexico and the USA ( I can see both countries from my living room ). I have little use for the " hand wringer" type. At least this lady in the video went there, didn't like it and decided to move on. Fine. But there are loads of other people who would hate living anywhere. They hate anything new in life. As this condition worsens , they will get upset if their TV is changed to another channel! Lol
you miss your Trader Joe’s ? REALLY ?! then you were never ready to move .. anywhere .. your “expectations have changed” ?? guess what mam , by the same token , you will really appreciate whatever you experienced in those short few months here in Mexico , once you are back home .. mark my words .. and all the best to you !! ps I am a Canadian citizen who lived in Palm Springs California for 10 years before moving here in Mexico 🇲🇽 and honestly , I couldn’t be happier .. I am now a resident of Mexico 🇲🇽 a little tip if i may : be honest to yourself . Bliss and thank you
I have been living in the Palms Springs area for the last 38 years, life brought me here when I was young. I am about to reitre, I am from the Ajijic area, I have just come from spending my regular 3 months yearly vacation in the area. When I retire, I will not think about it twice I will move down there inmediatly. I could not think of a more constrating scenario, taking the plane in Guadalajara and landing in the desert. I took the plane at 8:00 am, the temp. was 75 degrees, there was a thundershower all the way from my hometown to Guadalajara's airport, , I landed at PS at 11:00 and the temp. was aready 105, dry as hell and dusty. ..Some poeple just need to do their research better before moving to a different place...this lady just keeps saying that she misses trader Joes and the smell of the loundry !!!!!! How sad! LOL
She was very honest and we should appreciate her comments. She liked what she had, where she was, and would like to return to it. She said numerous times it wasn't Mexico. I think she is homesick and misses her family. Probably will be having grandkids soon also
One other point about why her decision to move could have been a mistake. Sounds like they made the decision too close to her husband's illness. Hard to make good decisions under those circumstances. Unrelated, but it was great to meet Jerry this morning at the Jardin Plaza. Hope we were not too forward in approaching you there. As requested, I am now a proud subscriber.
Well we’ll well we don’t have good cheeses ? Certainly not in little town Ajijic and we have cheeses from all over the world but the you need to go to “City Market” or “Goiti” in the city the home you inhabit depend on your financial situation try a good neighborhood in the city, but “they don’t have good cheeses Jerry?” And I’m not talking about the artesanal ones or defending Mexican cheeses but there are plenty of international brands not only Costco’s Monterey Jack
It is hard on every foreigner no matter where you move: culture, language, attitudes and many more things to adapt to. I have been here 9 months and I dislike the place where I am at: Veracruz Veracruz Mexico. I read, write and speak (or at least I thought I did) Spanish took college courses, yet here most say they understand but can see the deciphering going on inside. I was military, traveling to different countries for 14 months up to 3 year tours. This still is not the same. I think personally it is where you end up. I am a loner type and do not desire to be around Americans (yes I am a American citizen disabled veteran) yet it is still my choice to be here. So I need to either move on to a different place in Mexico or learn more. She could not adapt. Like you said it is not for everybody
I think in fairness to Chris it was beyond just homesickness -- she likes and appreciates certain conveniences that back home have ... She was honest which is so refreshing...
@@LJ-jq8og It is not a knock against her because it is the main reason expats go back home. She talked about the food from home, her own bedding, her neighbors back home etc, which everything points to homesick. Didn’t hear her mention anything about her six daughters, but I think that would keep me in Mexico. 😂
I think Ajijic has excellent weather the year round, but not my first choice. I enjoy the culture in Mex. and I usually stay in P.V., but it's always fun to travel inside Mex. - Guanjuato, Huatuclo are fun places to visit.
Hi you two! You make great videos and I have been following you for 5 years. I moved to Ajijic and lived in both El Dorado and Upper Chula Vista and loved Ajijic. I lived there 3 years and just "burned out" as after a while, there really is NOT much for an active SLIM couple to do. We are wrapping up a year in Mazatlán and would like to warn anyone coming to Mazatlán, it is NOT what you think and STAY in Ajijic or move to Puerta Vallarta. We love our view of the ocean here but as far as an expat community, I sure haven't found it. Since I speak Spanish it is no big deal but for most Gringos, I could see it being a big problem. BUT Mexico IS FUN and I just stayed a bit too long. I do miss the cleanliness and wonderful roads and sidewalks of South Florida, my home, but I encourage everyone to try it down here and if you don't like it, just go back. Best of luck to ALL! I go back next month and will be back, but for vacations only!
Missing a routine is a retirement issue. Nothing to do with where you live. Moving back to the US will not automatically create a routine. Want something to do? Then don't move to a city where the main industry is catering to expats. Move to a more rural location where there's lots to do. Fixing the house, gardening, food shopping, etc... are much more of an experience. In placed like Ajijic everything is at your fingertips. It's veal calf living. Sounds good but humans generally like some challenges.
if you are someone who is really going to miss Family and friends and your way of life perhaps moving to a different country is not for you .When I lived in Germany I did miss the USA .Perhaps living 6 months in Mexico and 6 months in the USA she wouldn't be so homesick .
Living abroad and an extended vacation is very different. Getting rid of everything to move abroad & then it doesn't work, you go back with nothing & have to start over again for the second time. The risk is monetary more than anything. It's definitely an adventure.
For people who have never relocated to a completely new area and think things will be like where they have been are always in for a huge disappointment. Worse yet they do themselves a big injustice if they give-up before waiting at least 2 or 3 months first. Heck I remember when I was very young moved to Oklahoma from Virginia to work in the oil industry. What a difficult time at first. So glad I hung in there because though I left after 2 years I had a whole lot of fun. Made a whole bunch of new friends and made a bunch of money.
Vacationing for a few months requires very little work. Building an expat life requires quite a bit of work. Especially if you’re the sort of person who feels like they need to speak the local language to feel at home. That’s definitely us, and I don’t really speak Spanish all that well but I’m putting in daily study. It’s a big difference! If I was not doing that I’d probably already be looking to sell and move back to the States. It’s interesting to me because she moved here about the same time we did and for rather similar reasons.
I totally agree with you; vacationing is not a lifestyle. I'm having a hard time just building a retirement lifestyle. Learning the language would be the bes thing to do on many levels.
many Gringos don't like change even if They hold the keys to paradise They rather be in different place, por girl set up your mind and enjoy what you have, it won't be to long.
Anyone who zeros in on dog poop and mosquitos isn’t in the proper frame of mind. I am a native San Diegan and have never shopped at Trader Joe’s. Viva la difference!
I got messed up with fake dentist in Riberas next to CHAPALA for dentures for ,$1700 and I'm back in the USA and she took my money .She pulled 8 teeth and stuck me with 15 nova cane needles i bled like a pig .Now i can't eat or hardly chew .She is right in Riberas don't go to her she's from Coulmbia
Everywhere you go, there you are. You can create your own routines wherever you are. It takes 18 months to adjust to a big move. Patience is required.
Shouldn't you be able to create like you want it, not be bound to create what others want?
First, it helps if you actually move, not just take a several-month vacation. Why would anyone enjoy being in limbo long-term, unless they're specifically setting out to travel full time? Like sure, she misses her bed, AT HOME. Because she didn't make Mexico her home, at all.
Great point! EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THERE YOU ARE! EXCELLENT!
@@porfiry I sold everything in Canada and moved to Mexico 13 months ago. I have a lot of the same feelings as the woman in the video. but it doesnt make me want to leave. I do move around to new places or plan weekend trips so that I am frequently challenged by new settings and circumstances and I have also stayed in certain places for multiple months. but it doesnt change the fact that we will never be integrated in the society and community the way we were in our native countries. I dont think that these feelings should be written off as misplaced expectations or some kind of weakness. they are a simple reality.
@@RedroomStudios I can appreciate all that, but I wouldn’t be so sure it’s impossible to *ever* integrate fully…I don’t live in the area yet, but I’ve been there 15 or 20 times, and have met a whole lot of people who’ve left the US or Canada and have no intention of ever going back. They seem to feel pretty fully integrated. That certainly isn’t the case for everyone, I’m sure, but I don’t think it’s hard to integrate if you just embrace everything that’s both amazing and uncomfortable about it.
This really seems like a case of homesickness and many misplaced expectations. If you have any intention of moving to Mexico or any other country for that matter, you have to have an understanding of what that means for the long term. Many people move to Mexico because they've been down here for vacation or watched too many travel videos and they think, hey why not do it on a permanent basis? She is clearly not the type of person who embraces change..
And she misses her knives!!!
It really is largely about breaking those routines...shaking up your life. If you want your old routines, Mexico will never work. I did ship my knives down here. And honestly, there are truly amazing cheeses!! Gourmet Garage, Pancho's deli....better cheeses than I had at home. Don't shop at Walmart and expect to be thrilled.
@@tamaramitchell9601 Hi Tamara, I agree and I've been living here retired in Cuernavaca Morelos Mexico for many years now and I have gotten into a routine and will probably move somewhere else in Mexico or Asia. It's about breaking up routines and finding a new fresh place to live that's affordable. Mexico has so many different cities and climates that you can spend your entire life just checking them out to see if it's for you. My mother lived in San Miguel de Allende for years and that's a great city to live even though it's more pricey and it's full of expats like Ajijic/Chapala which is both good and bad.
I would also add she did not plan on the transition. She needed to commit to 2 years then make a decision to sabotage your next season!!
I've been here about 2 months. The first month I was in an Airbnb while I searched for a rental house. This month involved getting all my stuff delivered from the mover and getting settled in. I am feeling what she felt at the 3 month period. I'm settled....now what? But, I have just started going to aquaerobics 2 mornings a week at the aquatic center, my gardener comes on Monday mornings, and I go to church on Sunday mornings. There is a great women's group that meets for lunch every 2 weeks, and there are always live concerts and walking my dog for a long walk every day. Today my dog and I went to the new dog park at Tobolandia and had a blast! I might get involved with the kayaking group that goes out on the lake, or a hiking group....and I'm landscaping the yard here at my rental house. To give my life purpose, I will likely start volunteering with animal shelters or helping at the Have Hammer workshops. I might start a new gardening group with speakers....or a hiking group for slow-pokes like me. I'm finding this period to be a great opportunity to explore all the other little towns on the lake and I plan to get into Guadalajara to see the fantastic zoo, probably a concert or two, maybe some shopping at Tlaquepaque. And then there is all the REST of Mexico!! I am totally loving the weather here, the friendly people, feeling safe wherever I go, and trying new things. Sure, there isn't every product we have at home, but between all the wonderful tianguis, the Fresh Market, SuperLake, and Pancho's....I'm really not missing anything and I'm finding products I like even better. I do not miss the horribly hot weather or the wildfire smoke in Oregon and I'm sure I won't miss the snow in winter. So, for those of us who were initiated by Judy King were coached, it all depends on your sense of adventure with the need for considerable flexibility. And it takes discipline to learn Spanish. I've got a long way to go, but it is absolutely a great way to combat dementia....and just think of all the wonderful people you can talk with on a more personal level when you learn their language! It is easy to get lazy in Ajijic because so many Mexicans speak some English there, but Ajijic was not my cup of tea. I prefer Riberas, Chapala, Jocotepec....where it is helpful to know a bit more Spanish. Every day I become more grateful that I went through the effort to move here and it feels more and more like home all the time.
Impressed and inspired by the life you’ve proactively created for yourself. Kudos to you 👏🏼 🎉
Exellent plans
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Thank you very much for your comment. You have inspired me to move forward with my plans to move down there soon.
Chris just was homesick. She was not ready to make the change. I am glad she realized it. Very good video.
I think so too
Thanks Jerry and Lori. The phenomenon of homesickness isn't discussed enough. It should be discussed because it is hard to prepare for. You don't know what you will miss.
Good point. Really hard to know what you'll miss until you're somewhere else. And it takes two years to get accustomed to a new location -- even if it's a move within your own country. When I made a move to Colorado, I felt like I left my friends back in the midwest.
I am remembering that kid at summer camp that was so homesick that he had to go home after four days.
Hello, thank you for this video. My husband and I have been playing with the idea of retiring in Mexico. We spent a week in Ajijic last month, and the heat was too much for me. I wanted to go during the hottest part of the year and see if I could stand it and found out that being there more than a week would bee too much. We traveled much all around Ajijic and for a mobility challenged person it was almost too much for me.
Your guest made a most important point, one must have a purpose if one is to have a happy life, I might add, that goes for any place a person lives. Thank you for your input.
You both look fantastic today. Very festive attire. Thank you for the wonderful podcasts.
I moved to Mexico approx. 14 weeks ago. I think I just reached the end of my honeymoon period. I totally get what she means. However, in my case I have nothing to go back to, so I think Mexico is going to be my home for the foreseeable future.
That's an excellent point and thank you for posting that.
Good interview. There is a honeymoon phase. When that phase is over ,you have to ask yourself some honest questions and prioritized which ones are important for you such as the affordable cost of living, the language barrier, the noise, nice people, your purpose and routine and etc. You are embarking on a new life experience, some new things to know or learn....it really depends. Everybody is different.
You'll be fine, everything takes time. I've been here a few years now and still figuring things out.
@@ShauninParadise Mexico is not for everyone. People are different. Some will be fine, most will not be. It is what it is. 70% of those who move to Mexico wind up leaving and not returning. The proof is in the pudding. Just because one stays does NOT make them better than someone who leaves.
When I first moved to Mexico I had already purged my life back in Canada too. And I’m so glad I had,… because I totally would have moved back and missed ALOT!
I say, if you can get over the first 6 months, then you will never want to leave. If you give up before that… well… it’s totally understandable… but not recommended 😊.
Best wishes to you ☮️‼️
She hasn't given expat life enough time. I am an expat in SE Asia and it takes a while to build the expat life. She expected things to work immediately. It takes a while to figure things out. It took me at least a year. I have been out of the state more than ten years. She is looking for America in Mexico. She's homesick, that's all. She's not really interested in other cultures. You have to be able to make your own purpose. Too bad for her.
Yes it does take time to adjust to another culture and there is that Time were you actually in culture shock.
She’ll be fine. Don’t worry about her
I prefer being in Mex., but I want it to be original. Some expat communities can be a bit much, so it's better to be away from the center of expat activities. There's lots of benefits living in Mex. such as lower labor rates. I just fixed my transmission in Mex. and it cost $850 - in the USA it and be 3,000 or more.
@@dennishassler605 one of the worst arguments for anyone to move to Mexico is the lower prices.
@@RedroomStudios No, if you are living on a fixed low income it's one of the best reasons. There's also many other countries in Asia, Latin America that are affordable for a retired person living on a low fixed income.
I understand what she means. I also missed the familiarity of my home country and it’s very Canadian smell of the Lauremtians.
I think you'll find this next video very interesting
70% Americans and Canadians leaving Mexico
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I'm confused - sheets? Pillows? Knives? These can be purchased or transported. Routines can be made. It seems like it's not the place for people who aren't very flexible.
Totally get it
Thank you 🙏🏻
We are retiring in 7 months and starting in Mexico. We have lived outside of the US before. We speak Spanish. We hope to take 4-5 years and slow travel through Central n South America then retiring in our favorite spot.
This is a truly valuable video. A must see for anyone contemplating relocating to Mexico. Congratulations, Jerry.
Another great video sir. Thank you for sharing the different perspective.
Glad you enjoyed it
One big reason I don’t hustle myself to Mexico is that I don’t want to get retirement bored.
I am the opposite of her, I am homesick when I am not in MX. She did not give it enough time to make her own routine, know her neighbors, pick her favorite stores and places to have fun.
I think the ex-pats who live here and adapt to the culture feel the same way you do.
A lack of purpose in life can eventually spiral someone down into the depths of depression and, if it goes on too long, it can land you in severe depression where you can't even get out of bed to shower and brush your teeth. A lack of purpose is what people with PTSD and severe depression experience, along with other serious symptoms, so it is not to be taken lightly.
I'm glad Chris recognized what that "lack of purpose" was doing to her before it went on too long.
A year ago, we moved from one part of a US town to another part. We still have not adjusted and want to move back. We understand this lady very well because she is missing the things in the US that give her energy, joy and satisfaction.
Thank you bless ALL. How do you subscribe to our channel yet? I don't see it on my subscriber list.
These comments and feelings are not really about living in Mexico but more about leaving home to anywhere as on an extended vacation. Making a home in Mexico is like anywhere else. You eventually do get into a routine of living and enjoying friends and life as you would anywhere so long as you don't expect to be on a perpetual vacation.
Yes you're right. But at least she gave it three months trial Time to see if Mexico is right for her.
I disagree with this statement. I've been in Mexico for 13 months now. lived in Ajijic for 6 months. stayed in over 20 places in total in Jalisco, Nayarit and Quintana Roo. I have enjoyed and even loved every place I have been. but what the woman in the video says I find true - life lacks that sense of purpose it had when you were living in your own country. you simply dont have those connections with the culture and community that were established over a life time. at home I used to wake up, take care of my cats, spend 2 hours watering my plants and yard in summer, make breakfast, go out take care of errands, complete other chores around the house, work on long term projects etc and interwoven in all this was relating with friends and acquaintances and family. here I wake up, make breakfast and then decide if I need any groceries or supplies... I am living in Guadalajara now and have had a Mexican girlfriend for 7 months. but it simply isnt the same. it doesnt make me want to leave but there is something missing.
As a young woman, I served in Peru for about 10 months. I spoke Spanish and really tried to live and work down there with the locals. After a few months though, I found myself longing for something intangible that I couldn't put my finger on. I eventually made friends with a couple, where one of them was from the US. I found myself visiting there a lot to spend time with them, and I realized that I was missing my culture, even though I enjoyed the Peruvian culture (which is part of my natural heritage). I think if I ever get to do some overseas living, it would definitely be on some kind of part-time basis, as I am also a creature of routine and really need some of the efficiencies of living in the US that is hard to find in Latin America. But, I loved Peru, feel connected to it since my family is from there, and hope to go back some day. I can relate to this woman very much.
Excellent perspective! Thank you for being honest with the little and big differences you experienced.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I recently visited Nogales to have my transmission rebuilt and they did an excellent job. I enjoyed talking to the mechanics and also some merchants complaining about business - Nogales didn't have many visitors due to the border and maybe the covid hangover. I took the gentleman to a bar to have a beer with him so we could talk more. We hope to sell our Phx. Gold Canyon house to move to Mex.- we also have some Airbnb's. For me, life is more fun in Mex. and I prefer living there where people have more time for people and where good family values and mutual respect for others remains as part of the culture. I find those I do business with in Mexico to be of excellent character - fair and honest people and it's a whole lot more economical than in the USA.
No matter where you go there is always a honey moon phase.... everyone needs a purpose... volunteer..I missed my children..that's it....each to his own
That's a very important comment that you made and it's something for people need to understand.
Chris did an excellent job and made good points ! ❤ I learned a lot frothier...
I thought she was very brave and very transparent and Xpress her feelings. If you notice she did not put down Mexico she said it was her need to return home to her children and family.
What a great point, that I hadnt considered: "There is a big difference between vacation life (up to 3 months) and being an expat (6+ months)". If you stayed longer, and became an expat, you could buy that special pillow, order that specific laundry detergent online, get really involved with some clubs to make those friends and neighborly friends, create a routine etc. I will certainly keep that in mind since we are starting the longer "vacation life" at two weeks this year and growing a week each year for 5 years until we retire and then become 6 month snowbirds. I dont think I will have such a hard time with this, but I already know my husband will. So, despite only staying for weeks at a time, I think it will be important, crucial even, to bring some carefully considered "comforts of home" with us that I hadnt planned on previously.
In my opinion when you retired the activities are most important in Mexico or your home country,hiking ,kayaking ,cycling , surfing, etc local food and beer .Very nice lady with standard approach to the life she loves her surroundings and cheese 🧀 🧀 🧀 🧀 that's what make her happy.I have question if somebody can answer here.I love cheese as she does .Can somebody tell me please the name brand of cheese from US which is a good one. From my shopping experience in the US 🧀🧀🧀🧀 doesn't taste and has no smell .Any suggestions for good cheeses that mature for at least 6 months
That was very relatable content... other areas of Mexico might have one discover newer and better routines, like morning walks in the beach, or reading in a hammock... fish markets, or artisan market browsing. I didn't mind Ajijic, but it wasn't enough to hold my long term interest either, and the same goes for many. I did love seeing the older folks riding their bicycles though.
Definitely!!
that isnt a sense of purpose. that is filling up time. I agree about Ajijic though. 6 months there was enough for me. the winter months Jan - Mar were really nice actually. but once you get into spring and it gets really hot and there are swarms of flies ruining your outdoor dining that really did it in for me. also had enough of the brutal cobblestone streets.
Great interview. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’d imagine that being an introvert would make adapting to expat life easier.
Great discussion!
We're totally happy living in the Lake Chapala area, Ajijic is where we settled 10 months after leaving Canada 🇨🇦 We found friendships, very good food & weather living in a Mexican town, beautiful Mexican culture & people. Retirement living at its best. Full or Part time as lots of folks head north to visit family, but everyone is sure glad to be back home Lakeside.
That is awesome!
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When you haven't had previous experiences of moving or encountering radical changes in one's life, it is hard to made such a cultural adjustment. Longing for home is natural, but my feeling is that growth arises out of shaking things up. We learn about ourselves through change, and what is more exciting than rising to meet new challenges? Seems when the expat life works for somebody it is because they are not wishing to stay in the familiarity box. There is so much waiting for those who explore outside their home turf. Even though for this woman, Mexico isn't for her, my feeling is that she will return home enriched, with more understanding about life than before. It is generous of her to be so transparent about her needs with this audience. Wishing her well.
Moving to another country is always an adjustment.
I'd Love❤️to
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I was fascinated interviewing her and her story. It proves Mexico is not for everyone
I love Chapala been here four year's would not change
Perhaps these many reasons are why some people are snow birds and go back and forth as opposed to staying ? - - - People do differ. Does seem like it could be a bit boring for some people depending on expectations.
Excellent comment FRANK I think that's exactly what is happened with Chris
Good video, Mexico isn't for everyone and people need to know that. Visiting for a month will help a lot to get to know if Mexico is a good place to visit or live.
I hope a lot of people read your comment because it is so true.
I would say try it for at least 6 months. To me the advantages outweigh any disadvantages because the US has become unaffordable for anyone living on a fixed low income. And there are so many other countries in Latin America and Asia that are affordable for many low income Americans.
I enjoy living in Mexico . I also enjoy parts of my family life in the US. So I will continue to live between the two countries.
That's a great balance and solution thank you.
The woman has symptoms of home sickness . It takes a year before you get use to living in a different country . I relocated with my job to over 8 countries and it is never easy . I found the Caribbean countries , Belize and Puerto Rico easy places to move to since language and culture are easy to acclimate to .
I disagree... I've been in Mex for 13 months now. it only took me maybe 2 months tops to get used to living here. I feel many of the same things this woman described. there are so many things about life back home that I miss... having a sense of purpose every day, family, friends, sense of belonging etc. but there are lots of things that I prefer about Mexico. the most important being freedom, but also the culture and history and of course the wonderful friendly people. for the vast majority of expats its a trade off and how you rank your priorities when choosing to move to a different country.
I'm afraid I'm a lot like this woman. I enjoy the things I have in the US. However, I feel I could live in Ajijic for a couple months knowing that if I missed my life back home, I would be there in a short amount of time.
Lori looks beautiful and Jerry looks great! Blessed couple 💑 🙏
Thanks so much
Well she did try, and she’s learned a lot about herself. And that’s what life is about!
Thanks Jerry. It is always helpful to see and consider all aspects of moving to another country. I'm planning to move to Puerto Morelos next year and I already know that there will be some things that will be a challenge. The toughest part is leaving my daughter and granddaughters, even knowing that I will go back a couple of times each year and hopefully they will come down as well. I'm 64 and learning Spanish is really hard but I hope I'll know enough by then. And I expect that I'll also be battling the mosquitos and it is tough seeing so many stray dogs. But moving to Mexico has been my dream since my first visit in 2003 so I'm going to give it my best effort. Also already have some volunteer opportunities in mind. Love to you & Lori! ☮️❤️❤️😎
Pammy, I live in Puerto Morelos . I hope you are on some of the local Facebook sites there. I love the beach lifestyle and the wonderful people. I hope we will run into each other once you make the move.
I've seen a lot of these older lonely USA women go back to the USA and get a African "boyfriend" and bring them back to Mexico. Talking about destroying a countries culture. Mexico and Mexican people have a deeply rooted belief in family. Mexico is a mono-culture and the perverted stuff from the USA does not fly in Mexico. So many Mexicans are starting to echo the sentiments: "Yankee go HOME!" because they do not want the USA perversion in their country.
@@vivianhart8579 @Old Soul Pammy what made you two ladies choose Puerto Morelos? I am a single 50+ researching future a possible retirement move
@@LindaHutchings I liked living in a smaller community but having access to both Playa and Cancun. The beach is here are much better than either of those larger locations as well. I found the people incredibly kind and generous and it's been easy to make friends here.
I’ve been living in Mexico for 6 years. The learning to adapt never stops. You get better or you fail in my opinion. Going back to the USA isn’t an option for me. I don’t miss it. I miss things about it but overall here is much better for me
Going on vacation somewhere is not like living somewhere. I am always amazed by the number of people I see that come down for 2 weeks, buy a house, sell up everything back home and move down. It's always a good idea to be cautious, take your time, rent for a few years (even 5 years isn't too long) and make sure it's really for you. As this person said moving to Mexico or any foreign country is not for everyone.
My thoughts exactly
Jerry you’re a world class gentleman . you’re my hero .
Lori always so charming and I love your blue dress .
You guys have amazing taste for outfits and joie de vivre !!!!
love and hugs to you
🙏🥰🤗❤️
Thanks so much
Interesting because all the things she misses are the exact reasons I want leave and go to Mexico 🤷♀️
RIGHT! Some american's highlight was driving to trader joe's, driving home, pulling in a garage and watching tv alone.
USA is deadly and expensive. Vicks vapor rub for mosquitoes. I brought a set of my own sheets. Towels etc. I love living $1 000 less per month and safe. I cook. I am 80 and will die here.
I have been coming to Mexico for over 60 years. I live in Querétaro, and it is safe so far USA is deadly and expensive.
I help non beggars and I do not beg. I can support myself with my pension, and. Living in Mexico. USA is too DEADLY and EXPENSIVE.
I will be 80 in October.
Me robaste las palabras Blanca. Por eso estoy planeando regresar y vivir mi retiro en Querétaro. Bendiciones eternas.
Lol, exactly;)
Im under the impression that she has only been in Mexico for a few (3-6 )months. Mexico is very diverse so depending on where you live in Mexico changes your perspective. Ive lived in San Cristobal de las Casas and Puerto Morelos. Opposite experiences.SCDLC~ Historic Mountainous cool temperature cafe culture European vibe, with Walmart Costco Movie Theaters Museums shopping et. PM~Beach town with charm live music centotes big resorts, great restaurants lots of expats from the US and Canada. both locations have come a long way in food shopping options.Imported Cheeses are very available as are most items we foreigners are used to for cooking. Same laundry soaps, et that we are accustomed to. Both offer many workshops, events, diverse courses (classes of all kinds) to immerse in,, et to occupy what is essentially a more a laid back lifestyle. Both have volunteer options to give you purpose and a schedule if your inclined. No, Mexico is not for everyone but this particular video shows a level of homesickness that indicates limitations that are mostly self imposed. One should never move to a new a new country without trying it for a year first. You make new friends both Mexican and Foreign and create a social life and lasting bonds. The shopping options are so abundant including AMAZON MX for knives, bedding, decor et. Puerto Morelos even has a Sherwin Williams paint store now. Im an Interior Designer and the paint options were challenging for me before. A small thing I'm happy about. LOL I think there is a period after the honeymoon phase where it hits you, its then that you have to re-adjust and find all the things that make it work for you and all the people that help with that transition. That would apply no matter where you relocate to anywhere.
Thank You for taking the time for writing that comment Lori and I appreciate that very much
another one who clearly misses the point. this isnt about the appeal of the places or what they have to offer to fill up your time. it is about a sense of belonging and a sense of community that one gets over a lifetime of growing up in a culture as opposed to merely being able to exist comfortably within a foreign culture. many people who come here miss family and friends as well. there is an entire fabric of life that can only ever be simulated here at best.
I love Lori's Blue dress! She looks so good in primary colors! Just love her!! :) always a smile and sweet!
Oh thank you!
Everybody has a different story and situation. I have Mexico as a vacation place and as a Latin culture country I could like and appreciate. Anyway to each his own. I think she might go back to visit.
👍 Great topic Jerry !
Glad you enjoyed it
Im glad she realised she couldnt handle it in Mexico earlier than later. Its interesting how we have put so much priority on our "stuff", material things and surroundings that make us happy instead of being in the moment enjoying each new experience being open to change and growing from it.
This interview was one of the best interviews that I've ever had she was so open and transparent and honest.
You say handle it like living in Mexico is tough. Watch the interview again to understand better.
@@BR-ex9xp no need to i understand her completely Mexico is great its her unwillingness to part with her material life and security of her home life in America, her routine, comforts etc..thats holding her back.
Wow! I went down to study in the mid 90's . Stayed for 6 months and never wanted to come back to the USA. I became totally fluent in Spanish even learn double meaning. I'm 100% fluent. I love Mexico. I traveled and lived with a Mexican family all the times I went. I let go of things here in the US and completely adapted to the Mexican culture. For family reasons I i unfortunately had to come back to the US, take care of my elderly grandmother and also finish my college degree. I ended up marrying a Mexican from DF. Didn't work out. I'm now married with a woman from El Salvador for the last 15 years. Been to El Salvador and could totally live there too. Thank you for the great videos. I appreciate them.
It sure enough does help if one is fluent in Spanish as are my husband and I. And we knew our aim was to cultivate friendships primarily with our Mexican brethren which we have done. A purpose in life? … that is an innate thing … like being a naturally happy person … that won’t necessarily change (in a negative sense) just by moving to another country. We are going on 16 months since we moved from Dallas, Texas (where I lived for 67 years and my husband for 30 years), to Querétaro. We rent a lovely home in Jurica Campestre. We enjoy living in Mexico just as much as we did in the States. ¡Saludos! :-)
I totally get her. Going on vacation is not the same as permantly living there. Especially a foriegn country. I'm bilingual English/Spanish so imagene me moving to Russia !
LoL Lori you are so adorable, I would make lots of bloopers most likely more than you. Thanks for your videos and information, I love watching them
Glad you like them!
Heard this many times from retired people even when moving within the US. My parents moved from NY to AL...out of the snow...super. Oh but the summers are very hot. Oh we miss family. Americans are prone to fantasy. Greener grass.
The standard advice I hear is "try it for 6 months". That makes absolutely no sense to me. The mind set imo is to move to a place. I've moved to many places, hated most at first then slowly fell in love. It's not the place, it's you. Adaptability is a learned skill. There are rules. If you want to move to Mexico for example then imo learning Spanish is a requirement. If you're an American trying to live an American life in another country...good luck. It will never feel like home. And feeling like home is happiness. All the expats in other countries complaining all day every day about how it's "not like America" do not look happy to me.
Burn your ship. It focuses the mind and that's where the battle is waged.
Water bug thank you for making that comment and taking the time out of your busy schedule to post it and share your ideas.
Ajijic weather is really not that hot ever.
AMEN. EXACTLY. ADAPT OR LEAVE. TRYING TO LIVE AN AMERICAN LIFE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. LUDACROUS!!
My move to Mexico has not been disappointing. Higher elevation and consistently good weather.
@@tracylindsey4199 not sure what you mean by an American life. There are 20,000 expats living around lake Chapala. It works for many people.
Some people like myself thrive on adventure and travel and experiencing different cultures. Others like Chris aren't that adaptable and prefer the routine of American life and culture. I don't think she had realistic expectations moving to Mexico because you notice she said at first she thought it was Paradise. I've lived in Mexico for years and what I enjoy are the differences between Mexico, the people, and the U.S. She sounds astonished that they don't have the same exact food here in the grocery stores as in America. I knew that before I moved here and I relish the differences. I've also been to Thailand many times and really enjoyed it there because being there is like being in another world. She probably just needs to find a relationship with a good man.
She has a husband--she talked about him at the start.
Agreed, Mexico is definitely no Paradise.
@@phildodd5532 There is no perfect place on the planet but I've found that if you are on a low fixed income and don't want to keep working until you drop dead then Mexico, Asia, and a few other areas in the world are great places to retire. I could never have lived in the US the past few years renting a 2 bedroom furnished apartment for about $400 US dollars a month. And I actually prefer the people here and the slower laid back more family oriented culture. Everyone is different.
@@tcb1017 are you trying to get rid of her husband 🤔 she is married. Unless maybe her husband moved back to USA 🤔 or maybe they are low in money 💰
I think you are being too harsh and judgemental towards her. I also thrive on adventure and travel. I have now lived in Mexico for 13 months. I have had a Mexican girlfriend for 7 months. but I still feel many of the same things she mentioned in this video. its not about thinking that the US (or Canada in my case) is better. its more about a sense of purpose and belonging. I wish that I was born Mexican because in almost every way it is a superior culture. but I wasnt. I will always be an outsider here.
Hi Lori and Jerry. We love to watch all your videos and they are extra fun to watch because of the cheerful smile of Lori. I always tell people Ajijic is not for everyone, to go spend time and decide for themselves. To me and my husband, Ajijic is our paradise.
Thank you for your comment.
He says: “they don’t have good cheese” 😅😅😅😅 it’s so funny: I think the opposite. I’ve lived in Texas for 16 years and I’ve always wondered why they don’t sell the variety of wonderful cheese we have in Mexico. It’s so funny how they put cheddar cheese on everything, or that cheese-like product (the yellow stuff they put on nachos and enchiladas).
Oh well, I’ll enjoy good cheese when I visit my family in Mexico.
I missed the systems I learned growing up in USA. Legal, contracts, tax, dmv, libraries, real estate.....and of course my lack of fluidity within the Spanish language did not help.
There is a big transition she mentioned they are starting. Kids out, we retired. Thats is a huge change and very stressful. Basically your old life is gone. Thats a typical retirement phase one. Years later we are still evolving into a different life. The honeymoon phase. you can sit on the floor and eat ice cream at 3am, fly to Hawaii on a whim. It is great fun but travel, eating out does get old eventually. Issues walking away from old careers example. I was a Computer Science/Network Engineer guy married to my Registered Nurse wife. I had no problem walking a way from working at tech companies and starting a music hobby. My wife worked hard for her degrees and walking away from that prestige is very hard for her. No one cares about lines of code I wrote but some people have important jobs like saving someones life and I get the difference. She still has patients that were tiny neo natal intensive care babies contact her decades later to say hi. How hard would it be to walk away from your work/career life and do something different? Figure it out and the rest falls in place.
I traveled to Guadalajara and Ajijic just a few months ago for a few weeks. I am recently retired and scouting out places in Latin America. Ajijic is charming - enchanting really. It is clean, safe, historic, and has a surprisingly good scene for shopping and restaurants. However I decided it was not right for me. It is rather small town and I am a city boy. I think if I moved there I would love it for the first six months but soon grow bored with the place. Another thing are those treacherous cobblestone streets! Maybe I would consider Guadalajara.
Mr Butch you're a very wise person looking at other places and wait out the pros and cons. Keep doing what you do it's appreciated by all.
I visited Ajijic last month for 12 days and had a very similar experience. It was wonderful and beautiful! But at the end of the day, I didn't feel I could ever be "at home" there. I was so relieved to get home, I guess I'm much more of a homebody than I really wanted to believe I was :)
Thanks for sharing!
Jerry I love your shirt!
I have enjoyed the different culture and people. It is an adventure. No one is required to stay in Mexico and not visiting back in the USA. Many people spend 6 months in Mexico and 6 months back in the States. I like having my own home too, so I bought a house.
Thanks for sharing!
If she knew the language and connected with locals understanding culture and language, then it makes the difference. Food is not same.
There is more people trying to get into the USA than out. November, December, January is enough Mexico. She misses her food, cooking, stores that have her good stuff. I’m right with her. Wouldn’t give it up.
I agree with most of the comments below in that it is not Mexico per se that she can't adapt to. She probably wouldn't be able to adapt to any country with a different language, climate, cuisine, and shopping facilities from hers. That includes everywhere in the world with the possible exception of Canada. She didn't have a strong enough motive for moving, such as health costs, climate, and politics. Leaving 6 children behind will naturally make her homesick, which is perfectly understandable.
Very much agree, she would probably be this homesick moving to another state in the US.
Ray Lori and I want to thank you for being a subscriber for one year now thank you you're the greatest
Guadalajara airport is 30 minutes away and a flight leaves for the US every day every hour. If you need a dose of home you’re not far away. Mexico has some amazing cheeses, so not sure what exactly she’s looking for…Kraft cheese? 😂. Anyways, I understand, after a few weeks in Mex I miss In-N-Out. Though there’s some amazing burger spots in Mex. Also sounds like she needs a hobby. Get together with expats, drink tequila and have fun.
your title is a bit misleading as she mentioned a couple times that it wasnt specific to Ajijic. I did leave Ajijic after 6 months specifically because I was tired of it. some of it had to do with the time of year. the winter months there were quite nice, cool with no bugs... but the extreme heat in spring combined with the swarms of flies when you are trying to dine out became unbearable. then once the rainy season starts you have to deal with puddles of water and mud when walking places(which is pretty much 100% of the time for me with no car). and finally I just got tired of the cobblestones and the broken, narrow sidewalks. they are charming at first but I cant believe I never twisted an ankle in the 6 months being there or didnt step in any dog shit. I'm really enjoying GDL now... it still has all the same elements of Mexican culture while being much more civilized with paved roads and nice wide sidewalks in many places. it is even more important here to speak Spanish though as you dont have a high number of "white" tourists that local businesses need to cater to.
Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to make this comment Lori and I appreciate that very much.
I have lived in Mexico, Mazatlan - not Lake Gringo Land - and I love it. Everything is inexpensive, food is great and fresh year around. The lack of full-blown Amazon is annoying.
All my life when I traveled , well meaning people would say " Aren't you afraid to go there?"- ignoring the horrible violent crime that happens in our native New York. When I first retired I went to Florida and babysitted New York visitors who were thinking of moving but we're " afraid" they might not like it. Please! Life is short! Just do it - if you were happy at " home" you wouldn't have left.
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@@JerryBrownTravels Thank you for your videos. I now live at the border of Mexico and the USA ( I can see both countries from my living room ). I have little use for the " hand wringer" type. At least this lady in the video went there, didn't like it and decided to move on. Fine. But there are loads of other people who would hate living anywhere. They hate anything new in life. As this condition worsens , they will get upset if their TV is changed to another channel! Lol
Sadly poorly thought out. Hope she was able to go back to what she misses so much.
Good Video
Glad you enjoyed
you miss your Trader Joe’s ? REALLY ?! then you were never ready to move .. anywhere ..
your “expectations have changed” ?? guess what mam , by the same token , you will really appreciate whatever you experienced in those short few months here in Mexico , once you are back home .. mark my words .. and all the best to you !!
ps I am a Canadian citizen who lived in Palm Springs California for 10 years before moving here in Mexico 🇲🇽 and honestly , I couldn’t be happier .. I am now a resident of Mexico 🇲🇽
a little tip if i may : be honest to yourself .
Bliss and thank you
Mexico is NOT for everyone.
I have been living in the Palms Springs area for the last 38 years, life brought me here when I was young. I am about to reitre, I am from the Ajijic area, I have just come from spending my regular 3 months yearly vacation in the area. When I retire, I will not think about it twice I will move down there inmediatly. I could not think of a more constrating scenario, taking the plane in Guadalajara and landing in the desert. I took the plane at 8:00 am, the temp. was 75 degrees, there was a thundershower all the way from my hometown to Guadalajara's airport, , I landed at PS at 11:00 and the temp. was aready 105, dry as hell and dusty. ..Some poeple just need to do their research better before moving to a different place...this lady just keeps saying that she misses trader Joes and the smell of the loundry !!!!!! How sad! LOL
Your comment is well thought out. Thank you
She was very honest and we should appreciate her comments. She liked what she had, where she was, and would like to return to it. She said numerous times it wasn't Mexico. I think she is homesick and misses her family. Probably will be having grandkids soon also
Culture shock hit her too hard.
Moving abroad isn’t for everyone.
Have you ever visited another country who had a different culture, a different language and even different money?
One other point about why her decision to move could have been a mistake. Sounds like they made the decision too close to her husband's illness. Hard to make good decisions under those circumstances.
Unrelated, but it was great to meet Jerry this morning at the Jardin Plaza. Hope we were not too forward in approaching you there. As requested, I am now a proud subscriber.
David you make a good point in your comment.
Mexico isn't for everyone, to be sure. Una mas cerveza, por favor!
That's an important one to know, this is another one: Uno mas Anejo, por favor!
Well we’ll well we don’t have good cheeses ? Certainly not in little town Ajijic and we have cheeses from all over the world but the you need to go to “City Market” or “Goiti” in the city the home you inhabit depend on your financial situation try a good neighborhood in the city, but “they don’t have good cheeses Jerry?” And I’m not talking about the artesanal ones or defending Mexican cheeses but there are plenty of international brands not only Costco’s Monterey Jack
It is hard on every foreigner no matter where you move: culture, language, attitudes and many more things to adapt to. I have been here 9 months and I dislike the place where I am at: Veracruz Veracruz Mexico. I read, write and speak (or at least I thought I did) Spanish took college courses, yet here most say they understand but can see the deciphering going on inside. I was military, traveling to different countries for 14 months up to 3 year tours. This still is not the same. I think personally it is where you end up. I am a loner type and do not desire to be around Americans (yes I am a American citizen disabled veteran) yet it is still my choice to be here. So I need to either move on to a different place in Mexico or learn more. She could not adapt. Like you said it is not for everybody
She could have just said that she was homesick
I think in fairness to Chris it was beyond just homesickness -- she likes and appreciates certain conveniences that back home have ... She was honest which is so refreshing...
@@LJ-jq8og It is not a knock against her because it is the main reason expats go back home. She talked about the food from home, her own bedding, her neighbors back home etc, which everything points to homesick. Didn’t hear her mention anything about her six daughters, but I think that would keep me in Mexico. 😂
I thought she was saying she was homesick and all the little things that made her appreciate her life back in Texas.
@@HamiltonRb Those who do not care about family NOB are much happier in Mexico.
@@phildodd5532 Ok, I give up what does NOB stand for in this context.... thanks.
The worst thing for me was the smoke in the air from farmers burning crops. I was sick for a month until I left.
Right now we are in the burning season all the fields are being burnt and today is an example it was very overcast and smoggy.
@@JerryBrownTravels how long does the burning season last?
I think Ajijic has excellent weather the year round, but not my first choice. I enjoy the culture in Mex. and I usually stay in P.V., but it's always fun to travel inside Mex. - Guanjuato, Huatuclo are fun places to visit.
I totally agree!
Hi you two! You make great videos and I have been following you for 5 years. I moved to Ajijic and lived in both El Dorado and Upper Chula Vista and loved Ajijic. I lived there 3 years and just "burned out" as after a while, there really is NOT much for an active SLIM couple to do. We are wrapping up a year in Mazatlán and would like to warn anyone coming to Mazatlán, it is NOT what you think and STAY in Ajijic or move to Puerta Vallarta. We love our view of the ocean here but as far as an expat community, I sure haven't found it. Since I speak Spanish it is no big deal but for most Gringos, I could see it being a big problem. BUT Mexico IS FUN and I just stayed a bit too long. I do miss the cleanliness and wonderful roads and sidewalks of South Florida, my home, but I encourage everyone to try it down here and if you don't like it, just go back. Best of luck to ALL! I go back next month and will be back, but for vacations only!
Thank you for that great comment Lori and I appreciate You very much
Missing a routine is a retirement issue. Nothing to do with where you live. Moving back to the US will not automatically create a routine.
Want something to do? Then don't move to a city where the main industry is catering to expats. Move to a more rural location where there's lots to do. Fixing the house, gardening, food shopping, etc... are much more of an experience. In placed like Ajijic everything is at your fingertips. It's veal calf living. Sounds good but humans generally like some challenges.
Thank you water bug.
if you are someone who is really going to miss Family and friends and your way of life perhaps moving to a different country is not for you .When I lived in Germany I did miss the USA .Perhaps living 6 months in Mexico and 6 months in the USA she wouldn't be so homesick .
She'd still miss her knives.
A lot of people choose to live that lifestyle six months one place six months another. Sounds like you have found a balance for yourself.
Living abroad and an extended vacation is very different. Getting rid of everything to move abroad & then it doesn't work, you go back with nothing & have to start over again for the second time. The risk is monetary more than anything. It's definitely an adventure.
For those who have never traveled or tried to live in another country it is a challenge. Some people are too afraid to even take the challenge.
Traders Joes needs to open up in Mexico!
Shes been there for 90 days. Missing home is to be expected.....but it seems like she bought a youtube dream.
That's an interesting perspective I think you could be right. But she did come down to see Mexico is right for her.
the best video info...for the truth...same a was feeling...didnt like the doogs on street andv dust....thanks mr Jerry and Lori ...she is honest...
Our pleasure!
SHE'S HOMESICK...
YOU'RE RIGHT, MEXICO ISN'T FOR EVERYONE.
Thank you for taking the time to making that comment Lori and I appreciate you very much.
For people who have never relocated to a completely new area and think things will be like where they have been are always in for a huge disappointment. Worse yet they do themselves a big injustice if they give-up before waiting at least 2 or 3 months first. Heck I remember when I was very young moved to Oklahoma from Virginia to work in the oil industry. What a difficult time at first. So glad I hung in there because though I left after 2 years I had a whole lot of fun. Made a whole bunch of new friends and made a bunch of money.
Moving to another country and become in the next Pat is definitely a challenge.
It took me a couple of years to feel good about a move within the States. Two to three months is a vacation, which sounds great to me.
Vacationing for a few months requires very little work. Building an expat life requires quite a bit of work. Especially if you’re the sort of person who feels like they need to speak the local language to feel at home. That’s definitely us, and I don’t really speak Spanish all that well but I’m putting in daily study. It’s a big difference! If I was not doing that I’d probably already be looking to sell and move back to the States. It’s interesting to me because she moved here about the same time we did and for rather similar reasons.
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I totally agree with you; vacationing is not a lifestyle. I'm having a hard time just building a retirement lifestyle. Learning the language would be the bes thing to do on many levels.
many Gringos don't like change even if They hold the keys to paradise They rather be in different place, por girl set up your mind and enjoy what you have, it won't be to long.
If you don't speak Spanish it really makes it harder to adapt.
She’s beautiful ❤️
I asked her was she the beauty pageant for Texas or the homecoming queen in school. She just smiled and didn't answer me.
Anyone who zeros in on dog poop and mosquitos isn’t in the proper frame of mind. I am a native San Diegan and have never shopped at Trader Joe’s. Viva la difference!
You should never move to a foreign place unless you are prepared to master the language.
I got messed up with fake dentist in Riberas next to CHAPALA for dentures for ,$1700 and I'm back in the USA and she took my money .She pulled 8 teeth and stuck me with 15 nova cane needles i bled like a pig .Now i can't eat or hardly chew .She is right in Riberas don't go to her she's from Coulmbia
That is terrible I feel sorry for you and all the pain and suffering that you've gone through.