Four years ago we created our own informal community in a popular south Baja town with some friends and acquaintances that have been spending their winters here RVing and kite surfing for several years. We gathered four parties together and purchased a hectare (2.4 acres) of raw land above the town. We had it surveyed into 4 lots, had a front end loader/backhoe come in and grade an access road and fenced the entire hectare to keep the cattle out. $48k usd for the land and another 1k for the survey, road and fence. We each have a 2500 sq meter lots (.6 acre) with native plants preserved on them and parked out. We each built septic tanks with banos on top and underground water storage tanks, about $5k for both. We built a simple RV pad integrated into the land on a large stone terrace. We're totally solar with no bills other than paying for propane and water deliveries which is minimal. Houses are now in various stages of construction and done at whatever pace is convenient. Only about $20k for the land and improvements was required to get our homestead set up and fully functioning with a comfortable full size RV which we now leave here full time. It's super comfortable yet minimalist living on a beautiful and secluded peaceful tidy lot with million dollar views, high above the Sea of Cortez. We don't have any formal rules but there is extra security in company and we are of course supportive of each other and spend lots of time together with fires, communal cookouts and parties and of course kite surfing together as much as possible. It's the best arrangement in town!
I'm familiar with your location and have been a visitor there for 30 years as both a kiteboarder and windsurfer. I'm very envious and wish I was in on your project. My wife and I have now been 6-month snowbirders in Central Mexico since 2010.
I was living in LA and San Antonio tx for 16 years my English is not perfect I come back to Mexico 🇲🇽 on 2020 I live in Oaxaca I like people from all around the 😊 world 🌎
Will be back in Ajijic in about 3 weeks for the final step in our permanent immigration journey. Even though we have built a house in the area we really would like to check both of these places out. Thank you so so much for making this video.
Anthropologists will tell you that humans evolved living in small, tight knit communities, usually not more then 150 individuals. Those communities thrived in prehistoric times because decisions were made for the betterment of the community. Humans are not wired to live in super megalopolises. We get stressed, react with hostile intentions and generally do not thrive. This sounds like my kind of life. Thank you for showing us this brilliant solution to modern day life.
I had never heard of intentional living before your video, it sounds very interesting. Definitely an alternative lifestyle that is not for everyone, but practical. Thanks for this! (Was Ms Moon in the video about assisted living?)
$1000 a month is quite high for a studio, in that area of Mexico, but I guess along with that comes the community support factor you’re paying extra for.
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico it really depends on exactly which area, if you’re on the lake sure. But as you move inland, the housing varies from one to the next. If you weren’t so close to the main highway where you get all the traffic and noise, and the neighboring homes is not that expensive.
Great video, I like the idea of intentional communities, cohousing etc. I don’t think I’m looking for the sort of thing as I still do some work and like living with privacy and not having a social obligation to chat socially with people when all I wanted was to go down to a pool and swim some laps. I was a bit shocked at the prices she was mentioning of the minimum people need to get by in Mexico. Perhaps she’s just speaking of Ajijic. I lived many years on and off in Mazatlan, Mexico City and other places very comfortably for $600 a month including rent, going to the cinema a few times a week, going to the coffeehouse and buying my groceries at the market. I’m very proficient with Spanish so maybe that made a lot of things much cheaper, as an example rather than finding rooms or apartments for rent online or through housing websites by simply learned places by word of mouth. As an example in the city of Guadalajara, I found a really great coffeehouse that I like and it turned out they had small apartments for rent upstairs. There was no sign saying apartments for rent, you just have to simply ask. But I think quite like being a two minute walk from your apartment to an excellent coffeehouse as a way to start your day.
Very strange "Intentional Communities"!?! (Unsurprising, as Ajijic would be the very last place you would expect to find a one!) Dave Hoaglands community (below) seems authentic and typical. I lived on a kibbutz in Israel a lifetime ago: All the orchards, vehicles, and the factory, were owned in common. All the children were raised communally. All the meals and the work was done in groups. As a new biz school grad, as I was at that time, I was astonished that such a pure form of communism could work so well! Also, in the 1970s, I lived with hippies, in an old miners cabin, on the Pend Oreille River, in the Kootenays, growing MJ, and working and collecting Unemployment Insurance alternately. Off-grid, back to the land, countercultural, feels more like Intentional Community. Bhodi and Namaste feel like flavored, branded old folks homes...
There are all sorts of intentional communities in the world. Some are true communism (as you experienced) and others light socialism. That doesn't make one better than the other - they are just different.
Thank you for your videos! Can you share, when possible, about the natural foods there such as locally grown (organically) coconuts etc..? I'm not sure what grows there naturally? To me, extremely important since America's foods have all been tainted or totally poisoned and there is no way around them. I do appreciate you sharing the cost amounts in actual dollar amounts. If fruit trees grow naturally can you let us know in what areas? Thank you again!
It is starting to look like MX is on an economic upswing of significance. Reshorng from Asia, etc.. The USD:MXP exchange is starting to manifest this. Its good that you're showing alt life styles. Thanks.
Mexico is in a great economic position. The peso is almost at its highest point in 8 years. I think the gov’t wants the peso to weaken a bit to continue encouraging investment.
The key will be having the financial resources to get residency. It’s gotten much more difficult in the last 5 years. But assuming you can get a visa, there are lots of places other than Ajijic. I’m not sure about intentional communities, but there are many less expensive places to live. Just find places that don’t have many expats.
I get where some of the commenters are coming from. Instead of delivering disappointing click bait, you conveyed the reality of moving to Mexico, which, ironically, was also disappointing to hear. Did it sound a little Debbie Downer? Sure. But I would rather know ahead of time instead of finding out after the fact. Hearing that I could potentially be priced out of MEXICO sounds ludicrous on the surface. However, the same thing happens in the U.S. all the time. You set your sights on living in a particular town, suburb, etc. only to find out that people of means have priced you out of available real estate. For those who want to complain, they can thank out-of-control Capitalism and the fact that we have now sent it southward. Everywhere we expats go in large numbers; you can expect the same outcome. At some point, you're late to the game. It's like an IPO. Those who get in first prosper. Those who don't, well, they get this video and a stark reminder of how the system works. As for communal living (apparently now known as intentional living), if the needs of the residents are met and they're happy, so what? Who cares? If you don't approve, keep your opinion to yourself and simply choose not to participate.
The price of real estate has about doubled in our area of Baja from where it was in the year 2020 just before Covid. It's primarily from so many well to do retirement age Canadians and Americans water sports enthusiasts buying up and building houses at any price. Shockingly, modern houses with gringo appeal are now routinely going for $600k+ usd. Local food prices are up massively as well. The dollar's big decline against the peso is not helping the cost of living either. The town is booming and many Mexicano hipsters are coming from Mexico City etc and starting up businesses, gourmet dining, art galleries, organic produce etc which is great for quality of life. It used to be just people interested in water sports came here but this year I met a number of young digital nomads who are working remotely from here, we can all have Starlink now so it's perfectly doable. It's impressive to see twenty something kids already with years of international travel under their belts. We spent two months in Bali this past summer and the same thing is happening there although surprisingly it is still far cheaper to live there than Mexico. Enterprising young (and old) people from industrialized countries are spreading around the globe and snapping up the opportunities at a rapid clip. This is the world today...
i'm seriously looking for a community like you guys, but something i can afford/ am now in cozumel. getting too pricey and dangerous here. definitely could not move here if this were my first year here.
The way things go I’m sure there will soon be much more affordable intentional communities than those mentioned in the video. I would say the financial cost is at the very high end compared to what you can really get by on.
I think that is what scares me…..what if you work really hard to create a great community and the Cartel moves in or the area gets dangerous. All that work could be ruined.
@@marlenemeyer9841 There is a risk. Not a huge risk, but it can happen. There are areas that are always on my "to be avoided list" but then some things pop up unexpectedly like Cancun has these past few years.
Then it's not for you. It's not for me either. But the people who do live there like having that spiritual message every morning. I can see how some might like that. It's kinda like religion - not something for me, seems like a cult sometimes and I can understand why some people like it ;-)
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico That's a thought situation. Even if the government were to put a cap on buying, higher tax; there are always loop holes to be found. Between poverty and government corruption the locals will keep on selling, in this case , foreigners can pay more, and still be way more affordable for them. It's sad to admit that in México we are years behind culturally and in development, when communities of foreigners develop, even the government will protect them more than the local people, the government sees them as higher financial contributors.
@@DanielGomez-jk6bv It's a hard topic. With the free market, property owners can sell to the highest bidder. Luckily, homeownership is more common in Mexico than the US. Renters experience the worst of gentrification. It's something that is happening worldwide. I'd love to see solutions that work.
It used to be a sunny place for shady people, fortunately they have come up with some guidelines to eliminate the lowlifes. Of course still one way to beat the guidelines is to marry a Mexican national. I have been living in Mexico over 17 years the wife and I live on 780 a month and that includes rent. If I had $3,000 per month to spend I would be swinging from the chandeliers😅😅😅😅😅
My ideal concept of intentional and communal living and retirement would be a private room at the Four Seasons or Rosewood with an unlimited bar and food tab.😂
Well for me that sounds frightening. Most definitely not for us. I have no doubt that some walks of life would be thrilled to live there. BUT not our ting man. To be honest it sounds like what I'd expect if the "Hallmark Channel" expanded into Communes or "International Communities" . Great interview though and keep em coming. PS how are the Margaritas now that you are back in Mexico ? Finally Merry what ever you wish to celebrate and I hope Kat is already there or will be soooooon. P n D
Thanks Dave. We need an Intentional Community for Canadians. It would have to have a Timmies. Intentional Communities are not for everyone- or even for most people! I’m loving Mexico and hoping Kat can come soon. My next vid will have a bit of an update. Merry Christmas!
Sorry. We filmed in the morning and there wasn't a hair dryer in my room. That said, I have been known to skip a shower now and again (but I don't get so bad that it looks like this video...)
An attempt at Gringo Heaven. Yippy! What about the larger community of Mexico. Ever thought about them? God, I am so disappointed in my generation. Turned out we signified nothing. Takers, not givers. Count me out!
Just another way for people to want to be accepted. You are not free in a setting like that. It's just being controlled and thinking you are dong something different. Nothing against the man making the Vid. You need to show various ways of living. I can smell the Hierarchies from hear. Good Luck with your servitude.
Why do people always have to make fun of how others choose to live? There are many choices. Maybe this is more your speed: th-cam.com/video/LL6p_Bdo0r0/w-d-xo.html OR th-cam.com/users/shortsoRC0D5rM7mo
I think the Intentional Communities today are much less intense than the communes back in the 60's. Much more supporting one another and less shared everything...
I will never understand why people would go to a country that has their people escape to the US. My family comes from there and they don’t come for no reason. They will never own the land or homes, it can be taken from them at anytime. Remember people leave that country for a reason.
It is so rediculous. The US let's Mexicans with no income relocate here a give them all the handouts they need and Mexico is turning Americans away with less than 60 thousand in the bank. I would never support that kind of hypocracy as you two obviously do.
Not sure what you mean by “support that kind of hypocrisy”? Because there’s nothing to support or not support it’s just the way it is. US needs immigration to support the worlds largest economy, and Mexico needs money from retirees to support their economy, plus Mexico along with other Central America countries, have enough impoverished people they don’t need anymore.
That's not true. There's a vast difference between immigrating and seeking asylum. As for the "handouts" you reference, multiple longitudinal studies have shown that immigrants add billions to the GDP within ten years of arrival, even accounting for any assistance they might receive initially. They are the workforce that makes the economy run.
Sounds exactly like what we called a 'commune' in the 60's and 70's. Why the idea needs a shiny new name, I don't know; but it sounds just like an 'assisted living' situation, which is a form of commune (they all don't need to be on a farm run by a guru). Interesting topic. I'm all for it, with the exception that it seems to be geared towards expats with the exclusion of locals. I just don't understand why anyone would move to another country and not integrate into the local community.
I'll try to answer your question: some people move to MX out of survival needs (can't hold a job in US anymore or hate a certain thing desperately and have to get out) - then they get to MX and they may just be introverts and so they won't integrate socially, but they may have good command of the language and navigate thru life in MX well. Such people may not have integrated in the USA either, no matter where they lived or would downsize to...
I'll answer too. I live in MX and it's not always EASY to integrate. They (locals) can be closed, friendly enough to gringos but meh---unless they moved from elsewhere and are solo etc they don't move around as much. I meet people all day long who have never been outside of their pueblo or state. They excited to hear what I have to say about Veracruz or Oaxaca. Lake Chapala has been a BIG expat destination since the 1940s. They even have a VA hospital for Americans. So it's nearly impossible NOT to be in an American community. I'm the only American in a very non expat place (by accident, literally) and they mostly leave me alone. I speak Spanish and they know who I am (gringa dog lady...after 2 years they can't commit to my name) and it has taken a LONG time to just exist here. If I was in a big international place like Oaxaca I'd have more options and CDMX even more. But I'm older than 55 and that doesn't appeal to me. I'm pretty quiet, don't drink, work with animals etc. Also many many Mexicans speak not one palabra of English so they are timid to approach. Where I am there is an indigenous dialecto as well and it's tricky to communicate and I'm "bilingual" but here...I feel like a big dummy. So there's that. And Mexicans already have intentional communities...it's called FAMILIES. So they aren't often looking for communes. But Ajijic is gringolandia.
@@yestohappiness2721 My question was, why does the idea need a new name. Not understanding why people move to another country and not integrate was a comment.
I'm 64 and study Spanish most days but I don't speak. I'd like to know more about the VA healthcare in Ajijic. I currently live in Cabo San Lucas. Mike
Four years ago we created our own informal community in a popular south Baja town with some friends and acquaintances that have been spending their winters here RVing and kite surfing for several years. We gathered four parties together and purchased a hectare (2.4 acres) of raw land above the town. We had it surveyed into 4 lots, had a front end loader/backhoe come in and grade an access road and fenced the entire hectare to keep the cattle out. $48k usd for the land and another 1k for the survey, road and fence. We each have a 2500 sq meter lots (.6 acre) with native plants preserved on them and parked out. We each built septic tanks with banos on top and underground water storage tanks, about $5k for both. We built a simple RV pad integrated into the land on a large stone terrace. We're totally solar with no bills other than paying for propane and water deliveries which is minimal. Houses are now in various stages of construction and done at whatever pace is convenient. Only about $20k for the land and improvements was required to get our homestead set up and fully functioning with a comfortable full size RV which we now leave here full time. It's super comfortable yet minimalist living on a beautiful and secluded peaceful tidy lot with million dollar views, high above the Sea of Cortez. We don't have any formal rules but there is extra security in company and we are of course supportive of each other and spend lots of time together with fires, communal cookouts and parties and of course kite surfing together as much as possible. It's the best arrangement in town!
That sounds wonderful! Maybe we can do a video together someday? I’m in La Paz. Email me Brighton@gen-mex.com
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico for the Gods sake.. please stop encouraging white people to retire in Mexico they are so racists as hell.
Thanks for sharing, so interesting but totally makes sense. Love it!
I'm familiar with your location and have been a visitor there for 30 years as both a kiteboarder and windsurfer. I'm very envious and wish I was in on your project. My wife and I have now been 6-month snowbirders in Central Mexico since 2010.
I was living in LA and San Antonio tx for 16 years my English is not perfect I come back to Mexico 🇲🇽 on 2020 I live in Oaxaca I like people from all around the 😊 world 🌎
Thank you for commenting. Your English is great!
16 yrs and can’t speak English yet?
Really interesting to hear about alternative living options, thanks for the video.
Happy to share! Happy Holidays!
Great interview and information..hopefully we will hear about more of these communities in..mexico...gracias Mexico
Once again you nailed itt…great video great coverage❤
Thanks so much Karen!
Thank you for this fabulously honest and informative video!!
You are so welcome!
Such a smart interview.
Thank you Gordon!
Thanks Brighton! Great vid. Blessings to you and Fam for 2024💚❤
Thank you! And same to you!
This sounds wonderful.
When I was young I was the life of the party. Now I don’t want to talk to anyone.
This makes me a little sad 😢
Will be back in Ajijic in about 3 weeks for the final step in our permanent immigration journey. Even though we have built a house in the area we really would like to check both of these places out. Thank you so so much for making this video.
Congrats on reaching the end of your permanent residency process! Reach out - I'm guessing both places would love to give a tour.
Wow, one more option for me, that's is great, thanks for the video. I am always learning new things from you.
Wonderful! I’m happy to share!!
Congratulations and welcome to OUR /YOUR country!
Adding quality of life ...great!
Thank you so much for the warm welcome! We're excited to be here.
Thank you for showing this!
My pleasure!
Anthropologists will tell you that humans evolved living in small, tight knit communities, usually not more then 150 individuals. Those communities thrived in prehistoric times because decisions were made for the betterment of the community. Humans are not wired to live in super megalopolises. We get stressed, react with hostile intentions and generally do not thrive. This sounds like my kind of life. Thank you for showing us this brilliant solution to modern day life.
I had never heard of intentional living before your video, it sounds very interesting. Definitely an alternative lifestyle that is not for everyone, but practical. Thanks for this! (Was Ms Moon in the video about assisted living?)
Thanks Cindy. It's not for everyone, but it's great for some. Yes - Kerri was also in the Assisted Living video. Good eye!
$1000 a month is quite high for a studio, in that area of Mexico, but I guess along with that comes the community support factor you’re paying extra for.
Ajijic is one of the most expensive areas for foreigners in Mexico. There are great towns nearby where you can live for much less!
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico it really depends on exactly which area, if you’re on the lake sure. But as you move inland, the housing varies from one to the next. If you weren’t so close to the main highway where you get all the traffic and noise, and the neighboring homes is not that expensive.
Great video, I like the idea of intentional communities, cohousing etc. I don’t think I’m looking for the sort of thing as I still do some work and like living with privacy and not having a social obligation to chat socially with people when all I wanted was to go down to a pool and swim some laps.
I was a bit shocked at the prices she was mentioning of the minimum people need to get by in Mexico. Perhaps she’s just speaking of Ajijic.
I lived many years on and off in Mazatlan, Mexico City and other places very comfortably for $600 a month including rent, going to the cinema a few times a week, going to the coffeehouse and buying my groceries at the market. I’m very proficient with Spanish so maybe that made a lot of things much cheaper, as an example rather than finding rooms or apartments for rent online or through housing websites by simply learned places by word of mouth. As an example in the city of Guadalajara, I found a really great coffeehouse that I like and it turned out they had small apartments for rent upstairs. There was no sign saying apartments for rent, you just have to simply ask. But I think quite like being a two minute walk from your apartment to an excellent coffeehouse as a way to start your day.
How much does it cost
It can be expensive but if you help start your own maybe you can bring down the cost.
I think they are $1000 USD a month
Very strange "Intentional Communities"!?! (Unsurprising, as Ajijic would be the very last place you would expect to find a one!)
Dave Hoaglands community (below) seems authentic and typical. I lived on a kibbutz in Israel a lifetime ago: All the orchards, vehicles, and the factory, were owned in common. All the children were raised communally. All the meals and the work was done in groups. As a new biz school grad, as I was at that time, I was astonished that such a pure form of communism could work so well! Also, in the 1970s, I lived with hippies, in an old miners cabin, on the Pend Oreille River, in the Kootenays, growing MJ, and working and collecting Unemployment Insurance alternately. Off-grid, back to the land, countercultural, feels more like Intentional Community. Bhodi and Namaste feel like flavored, branded old folks homes...
There are all sorts of intentional communities in the world. Some are true communism (as you experienced) and others light socialism. That doesn't make one better than the other - they are just different.
Saludos 😊
00:11 I want to live there.
nice video
Thanks for the visit
Thank you Hector!
Thank you for your videos! Can you share, when possible, about the natural foods there such as locally grown (organically) coconuts etc..? I'm not sure what grows there naturally? To me, extremely important since America's foods have all been tainted or totally poisoned and there is no way around them. I do appreciate you sharing the cost amounts in actual dollar amounts. If fruit trees grow naturally can you let us know in what areas?
Thank you again!
That's a great suggestion. There are definitely a lot of fruit trees in Mexico. Lemme see what I can find out and I'll make a video.
It is starting to look like MX is on an economic upswing of significance. Reshorng from Asia, etc.. The USD:MXP exchange is starting to manifest this.
Its good that you're showing alt life styles. Thanks.
Mexico is in a great economic position. The peso is almost at its highest point in 8 years. I think the gov’t wants the peso to weaken a bit to continue encouraging investment.
❌ Can you please share where other's can look with lower incom
Get together with some like-minded people and buy a place together.
The key will be having the financial resources to get residency. It’s gotten much more difficult in the last 5 years. But assuming you can get a visa, there are lots of places other than Ajijic. I’m not sure about intentional communities, but there are many less expensive places to live. Just find places that don’t have many expats.
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico thank you very much for answering!
Merry Christmas
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico
Can you share these communities that don't have many?
@@nevermind7253 I have friends living in Morelia. There are neighborhoods in Guadalajara that are more local, but still safe. Puebla.
Can you tell. Me where the second hand store near Cabo is.
Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/_8KSoGH9ANo/w-d-xo.html
Esta bien!
I'm trying to teach commands to my dog. I'm afraid she'll get confused when she hears everyone saying "NamaSTAY".
Stay isn't a bad command for her to accidentally obey. Worse would be living somewhere ending in BITE!
I get where some of the commenters are coming from. Instead of delivering disappointing click bait, you conveyed the reality of moving to Mexico, which, ironically, was also disappointing to hear. Did it sound a little Debbie Downer? Sure. But I would rather know ahead of time instead of finding out after the fact. Hearing that I could potentially be priced out of MEXICO sounds ludicrous on the surface. However, the same thing happens in the U.S. all the time. You set your sights on living in a particular town, suburb, etc. only to find out that people of means have priced you out of available real estate. For those who want to complain, they can thank out-of-control Capitalism and the fact that we have now sent it southward. Everywhere we expats go in large numbers; you can expect the same outcome. At some point, you're late to the game. It's like an IPO. Those who get in first prosper. Those who don't, well, they get this video and a stark reminder of how the system works. As for communal living (apparently now known as intentional living), if the needs of the residents are met and they're happy, so what? Who cares? If you don't approve, keep your opinion to yourself and simply choose not to participate.
The price of real estate has about doubled in our area of Baja from where it was in the year 2020 just before Covid. It's primarily from so many well to do retirement age Canadians and Americans water sports enthusiasts buying up and building houses at any price. Shockingly, modern houses with gringo appeal are now routinely going for $600k+ usd. Local food prices are up massively as well. The dollar's big decline against the peso is not helping the cost of living either. The town is booming and many Mexicano hipsters are coming from Mexico City etc and starting up businesses, gourmet dining, art galleries, organic produce etc which is great for quality of life. It used to be just people interested in water sports came here but this year I met a number of young digital nomads who are working remotely from here, we can all have Starlink now so it's perfectly doable. It's impressive to see twenty something kids already with years of international travel under their belts.
We spent two months in Bali this past summer and the same thing is happening there although surprisingly it is still far cheaper to live there than Mexico. Enterprising young (and old) people from industrialized countries are spreading around the globe and snapping up the opportunities at a rapid clip. This is the world today...
Well stated, Dave. This is exactly my point. Thank you for providing even more examples.@@davehoagland8869
i'm seriously looking for a community like you guys, but something i can afford/ am now in cozumel. getting too pricey and dangerous here. definitely could not move here if this were my first year here.
Cozumel is definitely becoming popular/ expensive. I hope you find your next spot with ease!
The way things go I’m sure there will soon be much more affordable intentional communities than those mentioned in the video. I would say the financial cost is at the very high end compared to what you can really get by on.
I think that is what scares me…..what if you work really hard to create a great community and the Cartel moves in or the area gets dangerous. All that work could be ruined.
@@marlenemeyer9841 There is a risk. Not a huge risk, but it can happen. There are areas that are always on my "to be avoided list" but then some things pop up unexpectedly like Cancun has these past few years.
Namaste sounds like a cult 😳. I wouldn't want to have to attend a community meeting every morning when I'm retired.
Then it's not for you. It's not for me either. But the people who do live there like having that spiritual message every morning. I can see how some might like that. It's kinda like religion - not something for me, seems like a cult sometimes and I can understand why some people like it ;-)
The sad part about so many foreigners moving to Mexico, just like any other part, is making housing and property more expensive for the locals.
I agree. I'd love to hear solutions.
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico That's a thought situation. Even if the government were to put a cap on buying, higher tax; there are always loop holes to be found. Between poverty and government corruption the locals will keep on selling, in this case , foreigners can pay more, and still be way more affordable for them. It's sad to admit that in México we are years behind culturally and in development, when communities of foreigners develop, even the government will protect them more than the local people, the government sees them as higher financial contributors.
@@DanielGomez-jk6bv It's a hard topic. With the free market, property owners can sell to the highest bidder. Luckily, homeownership is more common in Mexico than the US. Renters experience the worst of gentrification. It's something that is happening worldwide. I'd love to see solutions that work.
How can I be in touch? Can I speak with someone on instant messenger?
It used to be a sunny place for shady people, fortunately they have come up with some guidelines to eliminate the lowlifes. Of course still one way to beat the guidelines is to marry a Mexican national.
I have been living in Mexico over 17 years the wife and I live on 780 a month and that includes rent. If I had $3,000 per month to spend I would be swinging from the chandeliers😅😅😅😅😅
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My ideal concept of intentional and communal living and retirement would be a private room at the Four Seasons or Rosewood with an unlimited bar and food tab.😂
Well for me that sounds frightening. Most definitely not for us. I have no doubt that some walks of life would be thrilled to live there. BUT not our ting man. To be honest it sounds like what I'd expect if the "Hallmark Channel" expanded into Communes or "International Communities" . Great interview though and keep em coming. PS how are the Margaritas now that you are back in Mexico ? Finally Merry what ever you wish to celebrate and I hope Kat is already there or will be soooooon. P n D
Thanks Dave. We need an Intentional Community for Canadians. It would have to have a Timmies.
Intentional Communities are not for everyone- or even for most people!
I’m loving Mexico and hoping Kat can come soon. My next vid will have a bit of an update.
Merry Christmas!
LOL those are our communities. Double double lane. Donut street. Drive through boulevard. etc.@@AlmostRetiredinMexico
Bro, you gotta make sure you was your hair once in a while or is that wet hair, not a good look but keep up the good work anyways
Sorry. We filmed in the morning and there wasn't a hair dryer in my room. That said, I have been known to skip a shower now and again (but I don't get so bad that it looks like this video...)
Anything 'mandatory'..nope, not for me. I can see why someone would like this living environment.
I lived in a gated community in the US.😂😂 most people called it the ghetto 😂
I think gated communities and intentional living communities are a little different 😆
@@AlmostRetiredinMexico yes, I know. Thx for making my point 😊
An attempt at Gringo Heaven. Yippy! What about the larger community of Mexico. Ever thought about them? God, I am so disappointed in my generation. Turned out we signified nothing. Takers, not givers. Count me out!
OK - so how are you living your life in a better way?
There are many ways to live, and I'm just here to share options.
De acuerdo!
Just another way for people to want to be accepted. You are not free in a setting like that. It's just being controlled and thinking you are dong something different. Nothing against the man making the Vid. You need to show various ways of living. I can smell the Hierarchies from hear. Good Luck with your servitude.
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No thanks, went through that commun crap back in the 60s and never again.
I think the Intentional Communities today are much less intense than the communes back in the 60's. Much more supporting one another and less shared everything...
I will never understand why people would go to a country that has their people escape to the US. My family comes from there and they don’t come for no reason. They will never own the land or homes, it can be taken from them at anytime. Remember people leave that country for a reason.
It is so rediculous. The US let's Mexicans with no income relocate here a give them all the handouts they need and Mexico is turning Americans away with less than 60 thousand in the bank. I would never support that kind of hypocracy as you two obviously do.
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Not sure what you mean by “support that kind of hypocrisy”? Because there’s nothing to support or not support it’s just the way it is. US needs immigration to support the worlds largest economy, and Mexico needs money from retirees to support their economy, plus Mexico along with other Central America countries, have enough impoverished people they don’t need anymore.
@@rmanbike get your head out of the sand . US Has empoverished on a staggering level.
I wish the USA would copy mexico. Their system works better the the USA.
That's not true. There's a vast difference between immigrating and seeking asylum. As for the "handouts" you reference, multiple longitudinal studies have shown that immigrants add billions to the GDP within ten years of arrival, even accounting for any assistance they might receive initially. They are the workforce that makes the economy run.
Sounds exactly like what we called a 'commune' in the 60's and 70's. Why the idea needs a shiny new name, I don't know; but it sounds just like an 'assisted living' situation, which is a form of commune (they all don't need to be on a farm run by a guru). Interesting topic. I'm all for it, with the exception that it seems to be geared towards expats with the exclusion of locals. I just don't understand why anyone would move to another country and not integrate into the local community.
I'll try to answer your question: some people move to MX out of survival needs (can't hold a job in US anymore or hate a certain thing desperately and have to get out) - then they get to MX and they may just be introverts and so they won't integrate socially, but they may have good command of the language and navigate thru life in MX well. Such people may not have integrated in the USA either, no matter where they lived or would downsize to...
I'll answer too. I live in MX and it's not always EASY to integrate. They (locals) can be closed, friendly enough to gringos but meh---unless they moved from elsewhere and are solo etc they don't move around as much. I meet people all day long who have never been outside of their pueblo or state. They excited to hear what I have to say about Veracruz or Oaxaca. Lake Chapala has been a BIG expat destination since the 1940s. They even have a VA hospital for Americans. So it's nearly impossible NOT to be in an American community. I'm the only American in a very non expat place (by accident, literally) and they mostly leave me alone. I speak Spanish and they know who I am (gringa dog lady...after 2 years they can't commit to my name) and it has taken a LONG time to just exist here. If I was in a big international place like Oaxaca I'd have more options and CDMX even more. But I'm older than 55 and that doesn't appeal to me. I'm pretty quiet, don't drink, work with animals etc. Also many many Mexicans speak not one palabra of English so they are timid to approach. Where I am there is an indigenous dialecto as well and it's tricky to communicate and I'm "bilingual" but here...I feel like a big dummy. So there's that. And Mexicans already have intentional communities...it's called FAMILIES. So they aren't often looking for communes. But Ajijic is gringolandia.
@@yestohappiness2721 My question was, why does the idea need a new name. Not understanding why people move to another country and not integrate was a comment.
@@bjones9942commune meant sharing everything: decisions, chores, money, ownership. This is very different
I'm 64 and study Spanish most days but I don't speak. I'd like to know more about the VA healthcare in Ajijic. I currently live in Cabo San Lucas.
Mike