History's First "Dumb" Blonde | Rosalie Duthé
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- Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of Rosalie Duthé an extremely successful, little known French courtesan who had the reputation of being histories first dumb blonde!
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Two smartest moves she pulled
1. Escaping the French revolution
2. Breaking up with Christian the 7th. (Basically the prince Joffrey of Denmark) before he went batshit crazy.
Maybe STD's she gave him made him go crazy.
@@LoriCrabtree31 shade 👀 but true especially with regard to the time
Poor English Princess became the victim :/
@@LoriCrabtree31 There is no indication that he had syphylis, the question is if he was bipolar or schisofrenic or some kind of combination of both, add to that a doze of depression in his later years. And yes the way that Caroline Mathilde was treated was terrible. But Christians life was no rose garden either, the master of the court Reventlow was reasponsoble for raising the young Prince and he was infamous for beating the crap out of everybody even the prince. He used his fists and cane on anyone that displeased him. Reventlow was noted by a foreign diplomat “to be as suited for his job as a donkey is to playing the organ.” Other people less poetic described him as “the cruelest man of his time.” Just the type you want to leave a newly orphaned 3 year old with. No wonder Christian was into BDSM and beating the crap out of random people in the streets at night. Also in his older years the King would be left tied to furniture til he soiled himself or obeyed orders. The master of the court and ministers were known to beat him on occasion if he disobeyed. In the end he was known as the “Signature King”
You forgot not falling for anyone who considered her a toy and getting jealous.
“And you’d do it too for a check”
I just came from watching one of your videos 😂
I was an *employee*
Honestly I'm Surprised you watch these videos.
@@ashlyn3592 and that's on PERIODT.
@@jadedmist same
Her pauses before speaking might have been because... she actually thinks about what she says before spilling it out. I'm not sure why such pauses would be considered dumb, I've seen politicians and many public speakers do the same
French high society at the time was all about being "witty", so maybe it wasn't so much they considered her "dumb" as just "not clever".
Darling if it wasn't a man's doing it wasn't considered a intelligent move even though it was
I guess they thought being impulsive with words was intelligent
Wow, I must be a freakin' genius! I never think before I speak.
maybe in that time, it was considered as being dumb. I don´t know much about what people thought in prerevolutionary France.
82 years in 1800?? that is INDEED a long life, she must have been really healthy and smart, considering the many STD’s of that time were rampant among royalty and courtisans alike.
thank you for a great story!
She either was infertile or was very strict on protection/patrons to make sure she doesn't end up with a STD.
@@Blubableful I wonder how she protected herself in those times.
@@naly202 They were pretty creative back then. I think pig intestines were used as condoms at some point. Not sure if that was a thing in 1800 already.
@@naly202 They had condoms back then
She died at 82 in 1830. In 1800 she was 52 years old.
£13 million in jewelry!? Holy crap! The treasures she must’ve been rolling in
Make me wonder how many men lost their family jewels to have their jewels near her
£13 million in jewelry in 6 MONTHS, let's not forget that little detail. Homegirl must have been working it doubletime.
Seems like a pretty smart woman to me. She had goals and achieved them, and lived the sort of life she wanted.
She was very smart.
@@twistedbabydoll85 It's thriving in a world where women are deemed as dirty and replaceable and demanding respect. That's why it's an achievement, her world is so much different from ours and the women's of today,. She's intelligent and resilient. Instead of passing judgement on a women that's long been dead, be thankful the society you live in today is better than what hers was.
@@twistedbabydoll85 of course, she got tons of money, no diseases, and lived a long life. There's a lot more to her job then just sex.
@@twistedbabydoll85 yes yes it is. You try getting people to f you and give you their money.
@@twistedbabydoll85 oh there it is the pick me! Did you get that male validation??
She probably cultivated this persona, as men at the time didn't like clever women! Later to be called blue stockings!
it seems as if they still do not appreciate a clever woman, they can't cheat on her or lie to her if she's smart, a lot of them want a girl they can play with and mess around, however most men are boys trapped in adults bodies who don't know how to express themselves outside of anger, silent treatment and jealousy.
@@JazzyJ96771 These are men of 1700 you are talking of them as if they were the men of today.
Fun fact! Thank you
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(some) those guys actually had secretly revenge towards Eve;Adam's wife because she's the 'reason' why all human kicked out from heaven and lives on Earth until Doomsday
@@annie2845 these types of men will never stop existing.
Let them underestimate you. They'll never see you coming. ;)
Always works for me!
Excellent advice.
Word!!!
Seems pretty unfair to call her the dumb one when she managed to get rich men to give her millions just to be with her. She’s brilliant if you ask me. 👍
That’s probably why dumb has quotations.
He did say that she was quite smart.
It's the people in her era who called her dumb because she paused before she speaks .
@@g.j pretty sure that grew out of some scorned noble women's brains. She must have been quite smart...and dirty to get basically every man fall for her.
My girl be getting her coin tho, stunning, iconic.
My gaydar won’t stop beeping
Mistuh Go-GetDaBaggYo HAHAHAHAHA
There should be a movie about her! She seems very interesting and it seemed like she lived a interesting life lmao
That movie would have to be R rated 😏😏
Hollywood would screw it up
There is one, its pretty good.
@@cmont4064 What’s the name of the movie?
C Mont what’s the name?
Rosalie, perhaps wanted people to think she was a "dumb" blonde but she obviously wasn't. She in fact was able to obtain wealth, status in high society, homes, and of course meet various wealthy men. I would love to know if she had a memoir because I would love to read it. Great investigating of this story.
Indeed! Thanks very much!!
Most likely it was just a rumor that got out of hand but also served a purpose to make her seem less threatening to men despite her intelligence
@@whitedragoness23 I imagine her “dumb” persona was cultivated to make men feel more comfortable and to enhance her appeal to them. So many men are still put off by women they know or fear are more intelligent than they are.
@@tonibauer2405 all women were perceived as less than intelligent - the prettier they were the dumber they were thought to be. Remember this is during a time so sexist women - even noble women were not allowed to go outside on their own. Women were not allowed in Parisian cafes. Women were not thought of as the same species as men.
Damn she was the OG Scam Queen we love to see it
What scam? They wanted sex, she wanted money, even exchange.
Fascinating. Physical beauty can often lead to riches and wealth whether deserved or undeserved.
Glad you enjoyed!
Its as old as time and until now. The reason why I never ridicule those who will do anything to be beautiful.
Wait, wait, wait. Did I just hear “daughters of a lemonade merchant”???
Me, too. I thought I was crazy.
@@kaylajames9334 probably rewound that three times! He said it so matter of factly that I did a little research. It was a lowly job, but still practiced in some capacity today by tea companies. So people would carry a huge vat of lemonade on their backs and sold it by the cup. Compagnie de Limonadiers was granted exclusive rights to sell lemonade in Paris in 1676. Can’t find much on these sisters, but I wonder if there father worked under this company!
@@madelineklyczek5155 a professional lemonade stand?
@@madelineklyczek5155 Thanks for the info!
Well my grocery store sells French lemonade in glass bottles with a ceramic stopper. And it's pricey, so it made sense to me! Wife says it's great.
She had no children & didn’t get syphilis! She had an amazing run.
I thought that same thing.
Rosalie was just living her best life doing hot girl shit 💅✨
Her trademark? Taking a long pause to give guys extra ogles of her cleavage! Not a "look at my eyes, sir" kinda gal.
Indeed💜💜 sis was a 18th century baddie🤣🤣. 👠💃🏽 💅🏽💋💄
Yes.
@@g.jOG Elizabeth Taylor
😂😂😅 i was so disapointed in that arch bishop though! Not so pious of him
Enough wit and comedic timing to make everyone believe her to be dense. Now THAT is an excellent ruse to become rich and famous.
What a remarkable life about a fascinating, intelligent woman!
Thanks!!
I just realized, that today we bash women for posting nude photos on instagram, but women in the past had nude portraits commissioned. Said portraits are in galleries and admired all over the world, and seen as tasteful. Interesting..
I'm going to say having the poise to to be a model that has to model for hours on end might be a little more respectable than snapping selfies after you get out of the shower lol
Based upon your premise, let’s just call porn hub a free gallery then😑
@@La_abbess i didnt say anything about sex videos. Im talking about tasteful nudes, not erotica...
Actually, it depends. Edouard Manet got shit when he showed his painting Olympia, which is a painting of a nude woman, presumably a sex worker. What was controversial came from the woman being a real modern (at the time) low class, and also how casual and assertive she is. It's less about the nudity and more of how the woman is holding herself firmly.
Please, there is no comparison between having your portrait painted for being famous and sending fotos to the netherworld.
It seems Rosalie became recognizable very quickly because she knew how to get the attention of her audience. It is likely that she was succeeding at being the center of attention with her voice, beauty, and acting style, more so than other actors playing their roles. I think the satirical play was made to take her voice away from her because so many men were bent on her. It is likely, however, this satirical version of Rosalie only made her more popular and well-known, creating a lot of jealousy. I could imagine a very competitive atmosphere among women in France, back then, both on and off the stage. I could also imagine that often it was wealthy women that liked to put a stop to other women's acting careers, especially when they found that too many men were attenuating a pretty newcomer to the stage.
She seems pretty lit to me 🤷🏾♀️
Ok sis 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Dauntiess Kitchen I know right.Back in her day.Ann Boylen,Maria Antoinette both got beheaded.But this one was smart enough to make an escape.
"Get that bread, get that head, then leave. Peace out!" That was her theme song.
For someone who managed to hold on to her wealth. Never married or had any children. I would not call her a dumb blonde. After all those lovers she was smart enough not to have childrens. Apparently she had some secrets that worked. I'd call her smart. Another interesting story. Once again I learned something.👍💯👏🙂🖐respect and positivity always. Neita James.
Very good points, good wishes.
It Was Mercy From God, For Any Child, She Never Had One.
🙏💜🙏She was so intelligent they thought her dumb.
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Totally agreed!
homegirl wasnt dumb at all. She played all these rich fools (men) by taking their money lol. Quote from ariana grande song "thank you, next!" lol
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Well I agree that she wasn't actually dumb, but she has been officially recorded as history's fist dumb blonde even if it wasn't true !
Got the money and the men.....😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
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She was very smart. Died an old woman, comfortably in her bed having lived a life that others, including today, could only dream of.
I'm glad she escaped the horror in France. At one point I thought this story was going to have a sad ending.
What a sharp lady! With limited opportunities women had back in that time period, why not get the most out of her lovers? Since she's using her mind while those men are using something else...☺
Excellent point. Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot came from poor backgrounds and limited opportunities also and became the most powerful, famous and successful men in history using their mind.....sarc
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She wasn't using her mind to become successful, she was "using something else" using you words.
@@Goodkidjr43 Your right. It really does boil down to sex, on both sides.
Limited?
@@satan1626 Limited opportunities for most women in those days being fully independent. Other than being married and raising children.
@@ChildfreeMatto Right...and you believe that?
Dying while viewing the portrait of the woman he admired. Damn, that’s a level of simp that I cannot even fathom.
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Lmao
@@i50519 Wayyyyyyy over the top, sis. Who hurt you?
@@i50519 You literally did the same thing. You judged someone on the little info you could glean from their channel. You seem damaged because you’re attacking people you don’t even know. Your pathetic insults are clear evidence of your insecurity. Again, who hurt you?!
@@i50519 my god it doesn’t take a brainlet to realize OP was literally just making a dumb joke. you must be so fun at parties.
She probably knew children wouldn't help her station. So she either used some sort of contraceptive of the time or was barren.
Had she given birth I think she probably would have given it away
Which isn't an insult, if you don't have the time and means to care for a child, give it to someone who will cherish them ofc (her priorities didn't seem to lie in motherhood)
Probably used wild carrot seed, well known contraceptive during history.
Or Pennyroyal ..made into a tea...
They uses lemon/fruit skins as diaphragms
Damn she out there living her best life. Also can we talk about how ambitious she is. She saw her goals and got them.
It amazes me that people back then took such great notes of who was sleeping with who.
Seems to me she was "dumb" as an act. A way to throw people off. If they underestimate her, it's easier to outwit them.
It is amazing that she had no children. Lived till 82? Wow...
As much as she was insulted as being called dumb, she did have something to hide behind when she walked with her enemies thinking that she was not a threat, but she can use that toward vantage which she did in someway, she lived a great life and did very well for herself.
What a woman!! She was indeed very smart, basically a self made wealth because she made her looks a whole business. An independent self relied woman who lived her life just as she wanted to, without screwing up like so many other courtesans, obviously she was good at administrating her money because she died as a rich woman.
Being a successful mistress required discipline, hard work, and lots of savvy! Many of these women ended their days in poverty and oblivion!
She doesn't sound dumb to me! She managed to snag a royal as a lover, she was wealthy (and kept that wealth), she thought she she acted, she had no children, kept her head as the French revolution and died at an old age. This woman was clever :) And she's def someone we should all aspire to be like...
Agreed hence the "" but for some ready she earned that reputation....
@@oluwaseunogungbe3739 Having a child was (and still is sometimes) seen as a women’s only function and biggest accomplishment
Yes. This woman is my favorite of this series.
@@oluwaseunogungbe3739 Imagine you having a life like that. What kind of reputation your kid is gonna have? Rosalie want to save her child from that life.
A voice of sanity in these awful times. Your narrative skills are superior. Great videos, stories and information. Cool guy!
Thanks 😊
It was a very different time, then. A woman was open to all sorts of problems without a husband or father to protect her. Then sometimes the husband was the one the woman needed protection, from. As recent as 1960, women & children were considered to be property of their fathers & husbands. The practice of a woman, changing her name to the family name of the man she married? That practice began, to show that she was the property of the man she married. Although there are maladies in todays world, I'm happy that most countries have moved beyond the barbaric practices of the past.
Brenda, when I married, I took the last name of my husband. Not because I was his property, but because we were founding a family with one name, his, since he was the bread maker and protector of the future children. The notion of property is linked to slavery, not to free will. I think you have it all wrong. It is a shame. I am a free woman, but you are slave to your false notions.
@@marysylvie2012 Thank you for revealing your ignorance by attacking a person you don't know. It was simply an observation of how the practice started. Now, please go troll someone elses posts
@@FreeSpirit47
Historically, if we go back to antiquity, it becomes far more evident that marriage was an institution (mired in material culture and rituals that vary from place and time) that prevented women, which are the biologically more vulnerable sex (high reproductive load versus reproductive potential), from being sold, traded, r**ed, into a life of actual servitude and destitution. Marriage was also a means to safeguard the collective wealth of a household, which was fantastically difficult to do prior to the advent of finance and accounting.
@@sergpie Thank you for that fascinating list of historical facts. If you follow Jordan B Peterson he states that the most advancing medical science for women was when oral contraceptives were first made widely available. Up to that point, women had very scant control over their reproductivity. He said that it was a HUGE step for women, even bigger than giving women the right to vote.
I think it depends with the culture and for Europe this was common due to inheritance based on primogeniture that the eldest surviving child from the paternal side kept the estate. It was also to prevent the wife’s family from reclaiming the Dowry (women’s inheritance to take to her marital family). But In Asian cultures especially Muslims, women rarely changed their last names and their inheritance is passed on from
Mother to daughter. However, since the industrial revolution things changed drastically and traditions that once worked couldn’t fit in a modern society since both sexes were expected to contribute to the economy to make a sustainable living.
How has nobody made a biopic about her? It's a fascinating life, outside all the typical conventions for women at the time. I think NOW is a great time to turn this into a movie. Loved the video!
so very interesting. Thank you so much! As an artist I appreciated her obsession with preserving her image through art. Now I have a new "rabbit hole" to explore
This woman kicks ass. She was smart as hell she had her cakes and ate them too. And then some. Lol she is an OG hahaa
Based on the paintings shown, she was a pretty woman in my opinion. Amazing of her to have so many lovers and yet not having any children for the time, and managing living such a long life too.
This woman is my hero she did whatever she wanted and had no regrets.
Indeed!!
This was fascinating! I loved it! I learned a great deal. Your French pronunciation is flawless. You put a great deal of work into this!
She was fascinating and very bright. Still suffering the cruelty of others, she triumphed!
Excellent Job! One of the best on TH-cam. A favorite! Thank You! 😄
Anyone pausing before speaking is a wise person in my regards.
Dr. Jordan Peterson does that. She was ahead of the game. She knew the 48 Laws of Power.
Thanks as always FL.
I haven't been able to listen for s little while, and this was a lovely surprise to tune back into.
You know how we love to learn about history's sometimes overlooked, brilliant, successfull women.
Rosalie could teach many of we modern women some valuable life skills.
She learned early how to o be a queen of spin and self promotion, and was prepared to put in the hard yards to get started and keep the money rolling in.
Such intimacy with some men would not have been all fun ore even nice sometimes.
Only one man needs quite a bit of wrangling. Keeping a few of the m must have been like hearding cats! This woman could charm a stone it seems.
Love your work!
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I think its great that people thought she was "dumb" due to the pause she made. People greatly underestimated her, but she got the last laugh in a way due to her being smart.
It was a relief when I learned that she didn’t die during the revolution
What a fascinating live she had.Thank you Forgotten Lifes another great story!.
Thanks for watching 😀
I enjoy your soothing voice & calm mannerisms so much. I’m sick with Covid right now and I’m watching a marathon of your videos. Thanks for the distraction and information.
As a French person the way u pronounce château, François, Bourgois and other words is so good and sweet, u have a very good accent
Thanks very much ! My years studying weren't in vain !
Smart lady!! I really admire her long-term thinking. I am glad she lived comfortably in her later years.
10:19 It's even more of a direct pun in French, where "to have tea" is said "prendre du thé", so her full surname is in there.
I have to say, you are quite the storyteller sir! Very well presented and quite an interesting lady! Thanks for sharing her story...
Thank you kindly :D
The Victorian age of courtesans is the equivalent of socialites now.
Not really victorian age, said it was 1700s
This is my new favorite channel! Love your content!
"Rosalie Duthé passed away on 24th of September, 1830"
24th September's my birthday but I don't celebrate it so maybe I'll just celebrate all the courageous and admirable things she had done instead
Merci Monsieur FLives! Such beautiful and well done narration on this story. Great details to enjoy with pleasant background music, and your voice.
Thanks as always! Greatly appreciated :)
@@ForgottenLives
Always a pleasure. Thank you
Rosalie walked so the Kardashians could run
Ikr😂
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Ew
Well done on pronouncing her (and my) name correctly! :)
The original WAP
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dead lmao
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A bad reputation is often born out of jealousy from others. She seems to me to have had her head properly screwed, having gone through the revolution and dying 41 years after, at the age of 81! Kudos to her
This guy's pronunciation of the French language is spot on
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I love this series and watched just about all of them. I'm definitely a happy subscriber. That said, it is a disservice to history and to young women (and men) today to not acknowledge the circumstances surrounding the discriminations and oppression of women pre-twentieth century. ALL women were thought to be 'dumb' compared to men. Taken out of context it fuels bigotry and stereotypes. It saddens me to see just how many women in the comments have no idea just how oppressed their own great grandmothers were. Women in 1940's San Francisco CA, USA could not even legally rent their own apartments. It was illegal for a single woman to live on her own (unless she was widowed). In Europe during the so called enlightenment, women could not inherit, could not own property, could not go out in public, could not even enter public establishments like pubs, cafes, etc. - unless they were the peasants working there. I wish you would have gone a little deeper and examined this from her perspective in her time period. Women really do not need more divisive stereotypes, and we especially do not need the monumental mountains of discrimination and literal 'bricks to the teeth' (Sumerian law) for public speaking to be erased from the collective consciousness. As we see in Texas, women's hard fought freedoms are elusive and fleeting.
She became fabulously wealthy, enjoyed a life of luxury, and kept enough money to live comfortably to a ripe old age after surviving the French Revolution. This woman may have been many things, but "dumb" was not one of them.
Such an amazing presentation! Great! So much love from Turkey!
She sounds pretty smart to me considering what other women in her position at the time went through.
Loved this. So much info. And pics.
It’s amazing what our decisions we make in life.
Thank you for such wonderful story. You did a very good job doing this. I look forward listening to more of your stories.
This was my biggest mistake...back in my wild, racy days, I gave it away for free. Damn it! No wonder I'm broke!
Never too late to start
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O, girl, to bad you didn't heard this story before
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Trust me it ain't worth it......, I never sold myself but three of my close friends did professionally true enough two of them are very well off from it,, but they are the most insecure on Happy damaged people I know... it's bloody heartbreaking
Some of us are born with wealth & power. Others are born with physical attributes that will make others hand it over to you, willingly. The rest of us have to work for it. I know which of that paths I'd rather be walking
Which path would you choose?
People willing handing over wealth and power for sure. It doesnt take away the option of working hard, while also makes you appreciate what you've gained since you weren't born to it
You?
@@mdstanton1813 At this very moment, I would choose to be born into the wealth.. I'm 49 and tired😏.
How did she manage to stay disease free in 17thies?? Also lived very long life is a mystery for me, but kudos to her.
17thies??? What number is that??
@@celeste3100 I meant the years 1700, sorry English is not my first language
@@GiGi2012ize I got you!
Disease free, child free, and longevity. May these blessings rain down on me as well
I agree with Sasha and Mack dog. She was smart and wise besides being bold and beautiful!
Most wise people do pause before they speak.
This presentation was well done. Thank you for producing these succinct, interesting & entertaining clips of history.
Wow she was stunning all her life.
Thank you for the video
Hugs from Sweden
Thank you :)
Great video. Rosalie lived life to the fullest and in the end it was the "little dumb blond" that had the last laugh. She was one of the lucky courtesans.
LMAO My name is also Rosealee, just spelled slightly different, and also been a singer my whole life. ALSO been doing SW for years. Very noice how lives can line up so much haha.
I was fascinated by this story and it was one of histories exceptional ones about courtesans I seem to have not heard before. I congratulate the narrator for well spoken dialogue.
love it. More please Perhaps you could do la princesse de Lamballe
Thanks! Will look into her !
Another great video. Never heard of any of these women . Great research mate a fan from Australia.
Don't you just love the luscious paintings.
Wow she lived to a great age.
More like an iconic French sugar baby
Thank you for great history excursions!
Probably they thought she was a dumb blondie in those days but to me she’s okay. Back in the days as someone wrote. A marlyn Monroe❤️
I am intrigued by this woman. Thank you for sharing!!!
Thanks for watching!
Historical drama 😂 I'm listening to historical tabloids 😂😂😂
Excellent documentary!
I noticed when he would say certain names and things his inner french accent came out! Lol I love it
Dude ..... as an American when a British accent speaks up I listen and am amazed . Keep doing what you do bruh. You’re amazing.
I think you missed the point it wasn’t that she still had admirers at an old due to her looks but because of her intelligence and brilliant. She was a free woman that inspired the men around her and made a fortune on what she could in order to be independent that’s a brave choice.
Good story with excellent visuals. Rosalie was a busy lady.
Thanks for giving me something good to watch as always 😉
Hi there.
Thanks as always for the support :)
Just stumbled into this video and suscribed. Thanks.
Btw, the Lady was smart!!!
Ahhh a bit of before bedtime goodness 👍
Peace
Charlie 🇬🇧
Thanks 👌
Love these old, forgotten stories.
long life, no kids, admired, plenty of d, and a sagg she a legend 😩✨
Thank you luv! Don't know how you find the time or or life stories, but greatly appreciate you.😁✌
Thanks very much 💙
Thank you for this quite interesting story of her life
All the money she achieved, yet died alone blind is quite sad
No family of her own, I’d rather have my family than all the wealth in the world
Thanks for watching 😀
Imagine sleeping around so much you become an icon