#81 BMW i4 M50 road trip to Germany part 2
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Again a great road trip video! Thanks! Bjørn really manages to reveal the "devil in the details" of so many cars that look great at first glance. Well, the i4 still is a great car, but that throttling could actually be a showstopper, not for all, but for some people.
What a trip! I really wish we would know the real reason BMW’s do this. My conclussion is not to buy/rent an BMW EV if you are doing long roadtrips, those charging issues caused many extra hours of delay. (In total)
It's amazing that you do these tests. It shows us the real usage of a car. You can't sell a petrol car and say "if you refuel X times the car will stop doing Y and to reset it you need to do Z". It's ridiculous. Thanks for doing these tests
It’s not an EV problem, it’s a BMW problem.
I had the choice to buy a Model 3 or a M50 after my 2019 Model 3 LR. After 5min driving in the bavarian wood, I ordered a Model 3 LR with acceleration boost. It is as fast as the m50, is charging constantly fast, has no overheating issues, has the better Infotainment and is much cheaper.
Congratulations. You made the right choice
@jellyd4889 no, it was a mountain race track, the BMW is too heavy with strong oversteering. The acceleration is very strange, you put the pedal down and sometimes it has a short delay. And when you stop, you can do nothing really new. I tested the car 48h.
@@sworksm552 The delay and/or longer pedal travel is caused by the eesm. Permanent magnet motors have better responsiveness and more subtle pedal calibration that's why you liked m3 better.
Copenhagen --> Denmark man i missed that bridge over the sea, loved it so much, hopefully can go back someday
Thank you for again, a great road trip video! Also very interesting to see the charging limit, it seems that BMW is quite protective about the battery pack. I've noticed it with removal of sport boost after an ionity charge and things like the serious power usage to heat up the battery pack in cold weather. Lets hope BMW provides some more information around this.
Bjorn with your potential public would it not be possible to get a clear answer from BMW about the problem (if they do not give one just tell us (bad news for BMW) -- btw ik also have an i4 (edrive40 maybe that is a difference) and in the end of september we drove (with the latest software update installed one week before by my dealer) from Belgium to Italy (and back offcourse) with no problem (only used Ionity btw) ... We did not notice the drop in charging speed!!!!
Would be nice to see more Cross Europe tests. Greece to Spain. Italy to Wales.....
North Cape to Gibraltar 🙂
@@strahlberger I calculated this exact route with abrp set to 28 kWh ioniq, it would take about 50 hours.
I had the same issue with my i4 M50 on the last few charging stops on a 1200 km single day trip from Italy to Germany, always capping at 100 kW. Thought it were the chargers. I wonder how it exacly works so I can plan better? What if I only do 2 or 3 charging stops per day but are on the road for several days? This really sucks and should have been communicated better by BMW.
@@rqcgmy Polestar 2 from 2020 has better charging…not sure how you reaction or my reaction helps fok.
You buy a BWM EV for the looks, status and build. Not for the EV tech. Because they dont have that.
Guys, this only matters when going more than 1.000 km (5 HPC charges or more) on a single day. Before that it does 210 kW and it's still an amazing car. I love it.
@@fokmode yeah but we do need fast charging specially on long trips not short. When I do long trip 1000 km I wish to have fast charging. I have now Tesla S 2016 and I was thinking to change to BMW i4 for faster charging but I can see it won’t work
@fok is this standard or a new thing? I would not expect this for a car in this spec and range.
Autogefühl reviewed the Tesla Model S Plaid on the Autobahn a few days ago. Need the Tesla Bjorn test on the new plaid. It’s it very much improved on quality, speed and acceleration. With carbon ceramic brakes you can go 322 km/h. Without is around 270km/h. The gold standard has changed, need to test soon.
Just returned from a 9 day Denmark -> Budapest e-roadtrip, in a half year old i4 M50. It's an amazing rocketship on the autobahn.
Used 4 times full AC-charging at hotels and the rest at Ionity and BMW Charging stops. HPC charged in total 286 kWh in 158 minutes, and never saw the throttling. When mostly empty it charged at 206 KW and many times the car was charged before our coffee break was finished. Drove at most 350 km battery and longest day-stretch was around 675 km in a day with a layover in Dresden.
Energy consumption with 133 km/h cruise control was around 20 +/- 1 kWh/100 km. On autobahn with 160 km/h cruise, average around 27 kWh.
Car is very stable and quiet at highway speeds. Android Auto and Tidal works perfectly and is overall great for e-roadtrips. Doing 1200 km in a day sounds like a painfull way to travel.
I wonder if they've updated the software so it charges different, they might've gathered data which gave them enough to go off of and ease up on the restrictions.
Fabulous content Bjorn I have really enjoyed this trip with you.
As an I4 owner I would be really interested to know what the solution to the throttling problem is, although I have to say I nearly always charge AC at home - just occasionally DC for a longer trip
Yes we have Rema1000 in denmark :D
We have over 360 stores in the country, so you will almost
find a Rema1000 in every city :).
That nav graphic looks just like my old BMW from 10 years ago. lol
BMW has set maximum charging speed to a formula, so any more and it will throttle to preserve the battery lifespan. I heard something like 10x the battery’s total capacity, but the BMS decides on other factors too
You mean 200 kWh, right?
@@bjornnyland it’s a bit more complicated, it depends on the fast charge amount in kWh and the amount of times. It’s a formula provided by Samsung SDI, part of the contract between BMW and Samsung for any warranty claims for the pack, without this Samsung would not honor any cell related claims. 🤫
@@deurkl any source of that? That would be quite a scandal if true...
@@jeanbaptistelabelle How so? The charging speed is dependent on many factors also battery temperature, the BMS protects the battery from the degradation caused by fast charging, the cells need some time after many fast charging sessions.
David sure but here, the fan is not even blowing full blast and I doubt the charge was limited because the cooling system could not maintain the cooling temperature. It looks like Tesla limitation on the old packs but here it is a car almost brand new.
Again, is there a source for this claim?
Dry skin in winter is due to the low moisture content in the air. Cold air cannot support as much moisture, that’s why moisture condenses on cold surfaces. In the winter, because the air is so cold, the air gets quite dry, which causes your skin to dry out. Drinking more water helps, but doesn’t necessarily cure the issue. I have the same issue, especially on my hands and lips.
The cure is to go to Thailand. After just one day then my skin was ok.
you are the man bjorn cheers from the usa
Wow that charging speed issue is a bit of a bummer. It should be clear in the documentation that there is a limitation so people don’t get surprised. Cool video highly entertaining. 👍👍
It is in the documentation, just not how HARD it will hit you.
Some nerd level speculation about the reasons for charging speed throttling:
Someone familiar with battery technology told me that it might actually be related to the large coiled prismatic battery cells BMW uses. This specific type and mechanical composition of battery cell tends to form internal regions of inhomogenous temperature and current density and thus inhomogenous charge, and can cause separation of metallic lithium. Rapid charging intensifies this effect, while slow charging or letting the battery rest at moderate temperatures reverses and mitigates it. So it would make sense to limit consecutive fast charging in order not to let this get out of control, to a point where it isn‘t reversible anymore.
Cracking skin could be from holding the steering wheel in a fairly static position for long durations plus HVAC fills the car with dry air.
ABC always be creaming-hands :)
Nope. It's because of cold and dry air. I'm in Thailand now and the problem disappeared after just 1 day.
Charging Speed Limitation:
In the 1000 km Challenge with the I4 40 Björn made 6 x Fast-Charging in a Row without limitations!
In the re-test of the I4 M50 he made 4 Fast Charging Stop but he starts from a fast charger.
Also without limitations.
Either BMW has changed the software or the car has a bug too ( like the first I4 M50 1000 km Test)
It doesn't count number of times. It counts kWh.
@@bjornnyland What is your estimation after how many kWh it happens?
@@bjornnyland is this official? How many kWh?
@@miseethi easy enough to calculate. It started at Nyborg, so 727km into the trip, so roughly after 200kwh charged (at mileage that Bjorn posted +- across the legs). So if you charge almost empty to full (as I do, because of the baby needing longer stops), you can literally make 2.56 --> 3 stops (i.e. 2 stops really, but on the 3rd stop it'll start throttling after it loaded more than 50% so not so relevant).
@@DES0MX0 i ordered the I4 M50 as business car. i drive 40.000 km /y.
Ok! i don't drive more than 700 or 800 km per day maximum. if the (fast) charging edge 200 kWh than i can get minimum ca. 700 km (plus 300 km with the first charge at home) in one piece without limitations.
I think it works for me.
I know a lot of people, that buy this car for business with longer runs.
Björn Tesla Plaid spotted arround Germany. Time for some 1000 Challenge on your Informativ Channel. Safe drive.
Nice car, and great review. Still i have to disagree with your conclusion that this chargeCAP would not affect 99.5% of the people who buy electric. I would get closer to 30% affected at least 1 time in a year. I just came back from a skitrip with my taycan CT4S - it behaved amazing but if charging would be as here in the video i would have spend 4H extra in a 1000km trip wich is unacceptable.
Great trip but very disappointing HPC charging by the BMW in my opinion.
And I am quite sure that more than 0,5% of the i4 owners will be affected by that.
Regardless if it is an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Tesla or you name it - this slow HPC charging should not be acceptable.
Just came back from a trip Rijeka - Ljubljana - Vienna.
Very demanding driving conditions = rain, snow rain, snow and temps 0-4 C
Therefore quite high consumption with my Audi e-tron BUT I always could count on 140-150kW charging speed till 80%.
And that’s what I expect from modern EVs
I have an AUDI RS E-TRON GT and i dont hope that I will have this problem with my very expensive car ;(
@@davidakb why should you?
The e-tron GT has proven to charge „lightning“ fast
@@audivisual well i havnt driven the car more then 1000km i one day. So i would be very upset if my audi also had this limitation ;(
Nice to see you on roads where I drive frequently -> Fredericia - Neumunster. I like a new spot in Fredericia.
BMW limits charging speed when you charge to many times in one day. It will reset after 24 hours.
Does this mean that if you are on a road trip that takes weeks, like I did from Switzerland to Nordkapp than the BMW i4 will charge slow all the time?
(Since there won’t be 24h pause between charging sessions)
This is super disappointing.
Source on the 24h?
This slow charging seems like it's there to protect the battery and thus bmw warranty from taxi companies and the like.
However, I don't see how it helps any of us consumers. If drive this much a few times a year, the degradation will be insignificant, but the extra time cost certainly won't.
And if you drive long trips like this regularly, the degradation will be much more, but you'd also be putting a lot of km's on the car, so it would be expected. Doing 2000 km once a week is already 100k km per year.
they very much need a "holiday mode". as if they throttle back charge rate them everyone else waiting for a charger between paris and nice will hat the bmw drivers holding them up
I saw a lot different Video, The BMW i4 M50 Charging is way slower than 200 they claim :( Hope they fix that
Charging at home is way to expensive right now here in Denmark, the Superchargers are often cheaper and I can charge at work for half the price at home. It is getting stupid.
Hi what os the price at home in Denmark now and do you get the cheaper price at the supercharger. Do you have som special discounts from som where? Mvh David
@@davidakb prices are impossible to keep track of in December. Haven’t checked super chargers in weeks. Home price tonight 8dkk pr kWh. Have seen 4,25 dkk pr kwh at OK 11kW AC chargers. I pay 2,75 dkk kwh at work. But have indicated they will go up in January.
In October, I charged many nights for “free” at home, only paying taxes because there were some hours where electricity are cheap.
So since I drive less than 80km pr day, I only need to charge once pr week.
I would say my average price for December has been less than 4dkk pr KWh because of the price at work and I don’t have to charge often if it is expensive.
Love these videos! Not to long with good music👍😁😁
I assume that the coolant level is low on this press car as well ... 😂
You know a lot of german phrases. 👍
In Germany, you avoid Ionity at all costs with 0.79€/kWh. (it's the most expensive one). But with the price increase for ENBW in 2023 from 0.55 to 0.65 €/kWh the difference isn't that huge anymore.
Members of Ionity (like BMW, Mercedes, VW, Hyundai... customers) have lower Prices. Only for ad-hoc charging it is 79 cents/kwh.
That Ionity is cheaper is pretty much the case everywhere. In Germany you hopefully don't pay the 79ct/kWh too. We have Elli here which is the company from VW but also works for Tesla and others.
In Germany we have like 50ct/kWh for household electricty, but with Elli you charge for 35ct/kWh at Ionity with a small fixed monthly subscription. And they guarantee prices for a year. Public AC and DC chargers are also cheaper with that plan than my household electricity.
And the extremely cheap prices of Ionity is also the reason why they are always overcrowded next to bigger cities. Same goes for public chargers, it's cheaper for me to use the AC charger 300m away than pluggin in at my garage. What a dumb system.
Nobody should use the new EnBW plans, there are way cheaper options out there without a monthly fee.
You can get the IONITY passport and it's lowered to 35 cents. I use the ionity passport as I'm doing "short" holidays by car. Whenever I can't find IONITY I use the mobility+ (from ENBW) app, but now with the increase I might start using Tesla chargers as they've opened up a lot more in NL, Germany, France and Italy.
At least with Telsa chargers I'm 101% they work (found some ENBW's not working..)
@@darkho0 Ionity Passport ist discontinued this year. Your current plan will be canceled. You already should have gotten an e-mail with that.
What is this? Only 98 kw charging rate? Teslas here in Las Vegas charge at 180 kw. And you eating French fries and bock wurst makes me hungry. No good. :) Great video :)
so weird! you went past my town Oo Okay, I live in Flensburg but I have of course charged on my places as you have. Hope you had a good trip to Germany.
Get your hands on a Model S Plaid Bjorn :) !
If you drive like in the videos its amazing that the car is not throttling before. Most of the time its full throttle or full regen. The battery must be overloaded constantly. If you read the manual or specification the max continues power output is about 165KW on this. Plenty to reach 220km/h
Its like driving it on nurburgring. No electric cars can drive 5 laps with no power limit
The Tesla Plad has 240KW continues power
It's not power output throttling we're talking about here. Watch the video to know what's going on.
@@bjornnyland If you watched the launch event BMW said that fast charging was not prioritised on this car." Its all about home charging" So if you mean the trotteling of charging speed that's fine. I think its a protection. Maybe thats why its cheaper than a taycan and more efficient? A battery like this has a heat capacity similar a 200liter hot water tank. If you heat it and cool it you need some serious energy from somewhere?
@@ulyden1947 that is interesting. Could you please provide a link for that? If I search for BMW i4 launch event - only short videos show up. Thanks a lot
In Estonia are 80 % "speed" chargers" 50 kW per hour . 90 kW per hour are 12% and only 8 % are here 150kW per hour cahrgers.
*kW (not kW per hour)
Lots of REMA1000 in Denmark. I usually shop there for my daily needs.
I guess that's where BMWs power of choice kicks in. "You wanna drive thousands of kilometers in one rush? Go M440d or M440i my friend!"
Curious about Bjorn's comments about model 3 at high speeds. The 3 perf has a higher top speed than i4 and feels quite stable to at speed.
Watch his last video, he mentioned it compared to the BMW
For a comparison with a 2019 Model 3 Performance see Bjørn’s previous video at 59:49
See Bjørn’s previous video for a comparison with 2019 Model 3 Performance th-cam.com/video/gO-7EUJzidA/w-d-xo.htmlm49s
Model 3 pfeift bei 190 km/h. Das macht keinen Spass.
@@marcoo1464 Hmm they upgraded the windshield to double pane after 2019 - should fix that issue.
It looks like BMW needs to solve some battery overheating issues in i4. I think it's a good idea to throttle charging speed until they fix this. So far I didn't see see any article with BMW EVs catching fire (like Kona) or with horrible battery degradation (like Leaf)
"Maybe I shouldn't hammer too hard in the rain".
Yeah, please do that, all the time, for your own safety, pretty please. This is scary.
Wet roads are way more dangerous than dry roads.
You know we are at an impasse when a Porsche Taycan driver crosses over from Sweden to Denmark to charge his car. It’s almost like countries are actively rooting against electrification of automobiles.
great road trip !
Thats daily basis in Germany, trucks passing each other in no truck passing zones. The police didnt care. They make much more money with radar, so convinient and automatically.
I think the car companies are just testing their tech on early adopters. There no way this is ready for a daily use. Commuting yes, but I don’t pay this much money for a commuter car. I really wanted my next car to be electric ( I was considering i40 - not an M or EV6) but I’m half way into abandoning this idea. I’ll take a hybrid I think and wait few years. If only new Prius was available in Korea… most likely not though. 😢
Seams like cold gate with the cold temperatures in the battery
The worrying part of the i4 M50 is that it needs 35kw/100miles, vs 26kw for a Dual Model 3, so needs a 50% faster charge to compensate.
Not only that: It’s just a waste of energy and a climate killer worse than an ICE.
Fully agree, I was completely surprised by the high consumption as well. My '19 Model 3 Dual Motor without heat pump runs 230 Wh/km on my ski trips (driving 133 km/h on AP).
@@ronaldjanssen105 his consumption is nowhere near what I am getting, something seems very wrong with his car unless he is accelerating and de accelerating a lot on the Swedish rounds. My 2021 Model 3 LR with heat pump on 18” with Aero covers was around 15% more efficient than my M50 on 19” during fall weather, haven’t done any -10 to -20 runs yet with the M50 though but should get at least one this winter. The M50 is more efficient than the 2018 S I had by a decent margin at least.
Having cruise control at 135 km/h through heavy rain and some headwind the M50 was below 250 Wh/km in around 8 degrees temperatures for example.
@@David-qi3tp I think he uses sport mode a lot, and that uses the front motor too, which wastes energy.
I would like if BMW would comment on this to you , so you could tell us what is going on like with that press BMW that had fault.
Maybe car makers should make program a "alarm" feature, where a car would wake you up when it reaches certain %
Great video, as always. Do you mind me asking what app do you use to livestream? Keep up the great work
eDrive40 when? I’ve got one on order
Love these high speed tests Bjorn. However if I can suggest looking at doing this test with the Kia EV6 GT. 585hp and no “boost” issue. Just bonkers acceleration. Plus top speed of 265km/h and even quicker 0-100 tgan the beemer. However just watched Autogefühl and he just tested the Tesla Model S Plaid on the German autobahn’s Omg that car is one scary “MoFu” i think that would be one hell of a viewing. 🤔. 👍
We have hundreds of 'Rema 1000' in Denmark
Bjørn! Haven’t seen you cruising around Schweigaards gate for a while. So I’m fishing for an answer here. Family of 6, got a great deal on end of year es8. Should we pull the trigger 🤯. (Love the Thai videos).
115 kmh, but 460 wh per mile? That is quite excessive consumption. Am I too negative on BeeEmmVee?
glad I'm selling it fo rthe Taycan CT4
Finally.... The Tesla Killer 😛
Dreaming about a Night in Tesla Camp Mode ❤
Dreaming of sleepin in 🚘
Where did you sleep? That was the part I was looking forward to the most.
All german villages are call AUSFAHRT :)
Rema is big in Denmark and they are now getting bigger after buying the Aldi branch
98kW charging speed. What a disappointment. BMW Shame on you.
great car....but wow, 48kw above 45% SOC ?? That's like my 2017 i3 😐🤔 ?!?
That is obviously a software issue within the BMS. Bjørn will get back on this. Just wait for that in stead of shouting here.
@@frankblok1743 didn't mean to sound like I was shouting...I wasn't 😅. I'll be happy if it turns out it was just a bug that's easily fixable 👍
The skin on the backs of my hands do the same thing, and no amount of cream helps. Gloves help.
10:30 “This video was brought to you by Stormberg, ABRP, MisterGreen, Kempower, Marcusbil, but not Nivea, never Nivea”
Keep a moisturizer with Sun cream
WTH was wrong with the car 😱?
My good old 2019 Kona EV charges in a little bit more than half of the time from 10-90%...
Yeah, scary. Super charging speeds for 4 or 5 times, then you are SOL. I wonder how quickly it resets. I intend to do roadtrips with 700-800km per day, but multiple days in succession. What happens then...???
@@DjTonioRoffo I think there is a software issue. Looks like our new EV6, which was charging only at around 100-120kwh with the original software version. Since the upgrade/update last month he reaches 220-240 with ease ⚡⚡⚡!
"Ich komme schnell"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And that in in Europe my country has 30 degrees all year
Bjorn, did you then charge the day after? How long was the car not in use and did you get full speed? Thanks!
Very good videos! You have to mesure also the EMF in all the cars that you test. Electric cars are like a Faraday cage with a battery in the floor and 1 or 2 electric motors. There are a lots of people that dont feel well in a electric car. Can be interessing to see differences beteween cars.
Watching other reviews, model M40 shoul be more comfortable.
, less firm suspension.
Tesla 4 life.
Björn uses Salamitaktik for his videos (:
One of my neightbours in Stavanger, had one of these, brand new.. He Had, cause the engine had a major failure, and he got his money back after a lot of if and buts..Failure like, it didnt work, kaputt 😅
17:44 even the Leaf would be quicker
I've got a question...most TH-camrs are afraid to use music clips because they will get a copyright strike. How does Bjorn get away with using so many clips for background music?
TH-cam music library is free to use
I buy licensed music from Artlist.io
@@bjornnyland legend, keep it up Bjørn 👍
More elektroauto auf autobahn video’s !! :)
0:02 Ionity Brokenlande 😉
My girlfriend thought i was watching po*n... but it was bjørn hammering the beamer
you must be safe! not challaning hihgsdpeed tests without proper sleep. ABC Always be safe :)
how does C stand for safe?
@@Dreadpirateflappy Its a joke by Bjørn. If you watch his videos you can here him say ABC! Always be…..here and there. And after some years his using the C-sound for everything. ABC = Always be charging, was the first thing he often said, then he inventerad new slogans. With words how sounds like C. Like ABC = Always be sleeping. Do you get it?
In welchem Modus bist Du gefahren? Eco, Comfort oder Sport?
BMW: Freude am Fahren (passion on driving) - only for a short while. seems BMW has endurance issues😂
Björn @ Geschwindigkeitsrausch
In the last est bmw you can precondition the battery. Did you do this ?
Hi Bjorn, I’ve been a little bit concerned about you and your type 2 discharge issues. Now with your cracked skin I think you need to look into your nutrition. I used to get very badly cracked, dry skin on my hands in winter and I think it was vitamin D deficiency. The type 2 discharge could be related to folate deficiency and if you have that then you likely also have B12 deficiency (possible iron deficiency too). Unfortunately doctors are very bad a diagnosing these things. Their tests don’t work well. I’d still go to the doctor and get a full/complete blood test and other tests done. Talk to them about supplementing vitamin D and taking a decent multivitamin, etc. My skin still gets a bit dry in winter but it doesn’t get cracked and sore now that I’m supplementing properly. You probably have functional medicine doctors in Norway you can see privately. They’re a bit better than your average doctor although still not necessarily great depending on the problem. You really need to research for yourself and do things like detoxing, etc., to really benefit from your nutrition. HTH;).
Don't worry. I'm in Thailand now and everything is fine.
@@bjornnyland No type 2 discharge?
As far as I can remenber you had once such a problem with BMW, you sad later on it was that car only. But I guess BMW has huge problems with this model.
Are the slow charges the battery, software, or an issue with the chargers? Post the locations & map images in the videos if you can... Per the comments, wondering if i do have an issue. i have never seen the Kwh on the charger get close to 100. Heck, over 50 is good for mine. Nonetheless, usually gets close to 80% within 1/2 hour. Car is currently at dealership for diagnostics related to the key issue. i asked them to check slow charging as well. Love the car but so far a bit disappointed in the range. There are some setting to optimize charging and preconditioning, so we'll pay more attention to that going forward. Planning on a road trip down the east Coast in a few weeks.
It is a car issue, I had the same with the i4 m50 and eDrive 40.
@@sworksm552 Sounds like this will be a 6 month issue for BMW to fully research and come up with a remedy - software patch or module replacement possible down the road. Win win if they ultimately remedy by installing next generation batteries....
I’m really wondering about the consumption you have seen over these 2 videos, it seems very high to me unless there have been heavy headwinds both days. I am not getting near those numbers even when running the cruise control set at 135-140 km/h in Sweden, even in heavy rain I was well below your numbers at those speeds.
He is going around 200-230
@@amosjovt Not when going through Sweden and Denmark no, he saw 122 km/h average and around 290 Wh/km and so on.
I think it's the sport mode, as it uses the front motor too always.
Bjorn they invented a thing called gloves...
@17:19 that is how happy you will look when you don't like Tesla and bought yourself a German EV instead 🙂
I`m planing to take a trip from Oslo to Copenhagen in about 10 days. What is the best deal for Øresund Bridge?
Around 50€. I drove over it this sommer. You’ll like it :)
It's "Elefantenrennen", literally elephant race.
Hope the new Plaid will not "fall apart" above 200 😆
Autogefühl seems to be pleased with both Model S and X. He already reviewed the Europe models at +250 km/h 🙂
@@Arpedk Yes I have seen that, seams okay or better I will see.
A few on the forums were saying they needed to leave far more stopping distance than anticipated but I think it’s possible most of them had never driven over 80mph before…
2013 charging ftw
In Bayern we are calling BMW "Bayrischer Mistwagen"
Wait what? Bandanna and creama? ;-)
i4 m50 vs model 3 on this exact trip, which one wins over all?
Easy win for the M3. No throttling on charging. And way higher top speed. Much lower consumption as well. My '19 M3 Dual Motor consumes 230 Wh per km on long trips in Winter while cruising at 133 km/h on AP. This thing does almost 300 Wh/km. So sad that this i4 performs this way. was my go to car to replace the M3 next year. Now I'm not so sure anymore.