Baffert is a dirty trainer. Makes D Wayne Lucas looks like a choir boy. With this b.s going on and the legalization of sports betting on don’t even see the fans and players in 5 years at 25% of the numbers today. And Baffert is the worst possible player you want to see winning.
Mike Tirico is the best. Whatever sport he is doing his knowledge of it is amazing. And you see it here. Not trying to make himself look good just answer the questions with knowledge. Love it when he winces at the idea of government getting involved...
They have completely changed the rules that say what kind of shoes the horses can wear. It used to be they could wear shoes with toe grabs, which the majority of horses did, or they could wear outer rim shoes. The toe grab shoes have a, as the name implies, toe grab but it is no more than a 1/2 inch in height. The outer rim shoes have a rim all of the way around the outside of the shoe. Either of these shoes gives the horses traction. Those shoes are now banned. The only shoes that the horses can wear now are flat, no toe grab and no rim. They are basically running with a flat aluminum plate on their foot. It gives zero traction. I have been watching videos of races and it scares me how many horses I have seen slipping because they can't get traction on flat shoes. I would be tempted to run my horses barefoot because they would have a better chance of getting some traction than what that flat plate gives them.
It's the drugs. When a horse is injured and given pain killers and then worked out; the horse never fully heals and is much more likely to get injured and then put down. It's the drugs that are leading to most of these major injuries and deaths
@@marysueeasteregg I talked to a farrier and he said that all that they can wear are just plain flat shoes. Their justification is that toe grabs and such are what cause injuries in horses. Years from now someone is going to look back and realize that they messed up, big time, but how many horses will die before they fix it.
Odd rule to ban traction shoe for horses that carry weight & jockey! Human sprinters & racers, even garbage workers, have solid traction under shoes for safety . Top athletes have custom shoes made.
Me too. I hope all the jockeys refuse to ride for Baffert. That horse was on the injection list. Anymore of Baffert and I am ready to walk alway from horse racing. He is a stain on the industry.
This is the third time this year his horse has been enthused 2 during the Belmont once during the Preakness I’m convince he drugs the horse 2 have been sick during the same time one died during the Preakness he’s a sicko and needs to be disqualified from racing
Of course it's the drugs; they mask the pain and the injuries and then trainers like Baffert and others work the horse out and never let them fully heal. Then they race them and they break down because they have not fully recovered from injury and then they get put to death
We criticized bull fighting but honestly, horse racing isn't that much better. Horses did not chose this life. Greedy men are responsible. If they want to race so much, why are they not the ones out there running the tracks?
WTF are you smoking? It's a horse should they just run wild thru the city? How about you buy land and a stable and you can take care of all the horses you want. I love people who want to tell other people what to do with there property and money. It's a horse people used horses for 100s of years for farming transportation war etc. There not humans but unfortunately we have people who put animals above humans.
Bullshit. These horses are bred for racing, they WANT to run...it's in their BLOOD! These aren't your backyard pets you take out for a ride once in a while.
"How can you get to that point when we can't talk to the horses?" We're getting close to talking with horses through AAC. We've been doing it with disabled children for a long time. Recently, people are using it with dogs and cats. I've seen one cow starting. There's probably others I'm not aware of. And, yes, there's at least one horse. What they have to say is sometimes surprising. Though you can see how this could be a big advantage with your racehorse, I don't think we'll find everything they have to say convenient.
They have outlawed greyhound racing basically everywhere. Used to be big where I lived in CT till the casinos came in. Seems just as cruel. Seems horses are more beloved. Is it just because the money is too great it continues?
Makes me sick. I love sports, but I can't get past this. I have tried. I have been to the track many times. I can not see any more justification for this other than pure human greed.
At least Indian casinos have made big negative impact on horse racing, land being so valuable it’s more profitable to sell to residential developers. Santa Anita, owned by a billionaire, is already earmarked to become very costly condo high rise residences after his ch 11 reorganization. 1 less horse race track. Seabiscuit’s statue can be moved to adjacent park.
I think that it is a tragedy that this happened to a horse today. Ironic that the horse was trained and associated with baffert! Oh, I also think that it is past time for mike tirio to be put out to pasture until he knows what he is talking about!!!
Many horses incur fractures and are saved. But fractures vary a great deal in type and in severity. As poster Allison Lange says, horses need all 4 legs functioning. They are not like cats, dogs (or humans) who can live quality lives with a poorly functioning or even amputated leg. Horses have surprisingly poor circulation in their legs. This impedes healing in some cases, especially if there has been damage to the blood vessels. Gangrene/necrosis is consequently a big danger in some types of fractures, esp. compound (open) fractures which would almost certainly result in amputation in a dog/cat. Horses cannot lie on their sides for extended times; their weight cuts off circulation. Lungs, heart and intestines do not function properly in a horse that is down for 24 hours or so. Fractures in the upper legs, pelvis or shoulder (this was a lower leg injury, I am pretty sure) are almost always automatic euthanasia cases because a cast cannot be applied to provide proper stablization. Because of favoring an injured leg, many horses recovering from leg fractures will develop laminitis, a painful and often progressive inflammation of the hoof tissues. This is what happened to 2006 Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro; his serious fractures healed, but he developed laminitis in other feet. (Laminitis is a major cause of equine death in general, not "just" in injured horses. Triple Crown winners Secretariat and Affirmed both were put down due to laminitis. The condition cannot always be gotten under control/cured, and advanced cases are agonizing to the horse.) Havameltdown was a multiple graded stakes winning colt; he would have had some stud value. The fact that he was put down on the track, not even taken to the barn or hospital for evaluation, is clear indication that his injury was not survivable.
He maybe would have had a slight chance of survival if he did not run on. It is on TH-cam and the leg was flopping around and horribly broken with dirt getting in the wound. An open fracture like that is the end! And that is that! So sad.
Unfortunately when a horse breaks a leg, it is very rare that horse will not need to be put down. Racing or not. Horses on ranches that step in gopher holes are put down due to the fact that horses need all four legs and due to that, the leg never properly heals. It’s horrid. It’s heartbreaking. But in a situation such as a broken leg, the most humane thing to do is euthanize
I think Congress should get involved as the industry thinks it's just part of racing. Not that many deaths! Horses are raced too young before they are fully developed due to greed & it will not change unless forced to.
What a load of BS! Horses breaking their legs is NOT a part of horse racing and should not be accepted as such. This makes me so angry to see this kind of commentary. I love horses and I stopped watching horse racing a long time ago. Anyone who loves horses would never subject an animal to this type of abuse.
I think it’s great you’ve jumped on this potential problem of several race horses being euthanized and are searching for answers. At this same time THOUSANDS of Humans in all age groups are DYING above estimated rates all around the world. Where is this important story? Where is this investigative report?
I love it let them spend millions to protect the horses by building stables and paying vet bills etc. While they cry murder on there iPhone made by some poor hungry kid in China with nets around the building so they don't jump. Just like hunting is bad while the hunters do more for wildlife then the Peta nut living New York.
Yes. Horses have poor circulation in their bodies, especially from the legs. Horses can't lay down for more than 24 Hours. Bad circulation would not help a horse recover.
It’s the breeding, specifically inbreeding that are making these animals so fragile. Running is what these animals do, it’s not the running per se that’s the problem. The only changes I feel should be made is limit cross generational in-breeding.
These horses are treated very well. While well over 50% of the world population have Kids starving in Africa human slaves in China etc. People you forget we used horse for 100s of years from transportation war etc. Maybe the people crying can spend millions to buy land and pay stable and vet bills to protect these Horses.
So kids starving in Africa, slaves in China, and because its always been done is the reason for not complaining? Accountability for horse racing is the issue.
The horses are not treated well; they are given drugs to mask pain from injuries and then they are worked out and raced without fully healing which makes them very vulnerable to injury and death. This is why there is a huge increase in horse deaths. It's mostly the drugs.
"My slaves are treated very well. We've had slavery for 100s of years. Maybe the people crying can spend millions and buy all the slaves to protect these slaves."
For you butt hurt whiners.... as of May 20, 2023, horse racing deaths in the United States are at their lowest level since they began being tracked in 2009.
You speak out of ignorance. Many equine fractures are operable, or curable just with stall rest. MANY ARE NOT. PLEASE, I beg you, read this article by a veterinarian explaining why some leg fractures are fatal in horses. Title "Ramey: Why Some Horses’ Leg Fractures Are Fatal And Others Aren’t" by Dr. David Ramey| 2022 Paulick Report Read also my lengthy response to poster Nicholas Jordan, who also questioned the necessity of euthanasia.
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It's sad. A horse is an LLC, a company in itself. The horse dies, that LLC closes, and anther LLC is opened with another horse.
Well said and explained
Baffert is a dirty trainer. Makes D Wayne Lucas looks like a choir boy. With this b.s going on and the legalization of sports betting on don’t even see the fans and players in 5 years at 25% of the numbers today. And Baffert is the worst possible player you want to see winning.
Go cry to someone that cares
What an intelligent commentary.... kudos to this man. Better response then we've ever seen from our President
That it is an accepted part of racing is so pathetic! Humans are so cruel to animals.
That is so sad💔
Mike Tirico is the best. Whatever sport he is doing his knowledge of it is amazing. And you see it here. Not trying to make himself look good just answer the questions with knowledge. Love it when he winces at the idea of government getting involved...
Tears man. That beautiful animal should still be alive. Oh that was hard for me to watch 😭
They have completely changed the rules that say what kind of shoes the horses can wear. It used to be they could wear shoes with toe grabs, which the majority of horses did, or they could wear outer rim shoes. The toe grab shoes have a, as the name implies, toe grab but it is no more than a 1/2 inch in height. The outer rim shoes have a rim all of the way around the outside of the shoe. Either of these shoes gives the horses traction.
Those shoes are now banned. The only shoes that the horses can wear now are flat, no toe grab and no rim. They are basically running with a flat aluminum plate on their foot. It gives zero traction. I have been watching videos of races and it scares me how many horses I have seen slipping because they can't get traction on flat shoes. I would be tempted to run my horses barefoot because they would have a better chance of getting some traction than what that flat plate gives them.
Are mud caulks banned, too?
It's the drugs. When a horse is injured and given pain killers and then worked out; the horse never fully heals and is much more likely to get injured and then put down. It's the drugs that are leading to most of these major injuries and deaths
@@marysueeasteregg I talked to a farrier and he said that all that they can wear are just plain flat shoes. Their justification is that toe grabs and such are what cause injuries in horses. Years from now someone is going to look back and realize that they messed up, big time, but how many horses will die before they fix it.
@@amandabilger2235 Thanks for the info. I had no idea the rules on shoes had changed.
Odd rule to ban traction shoe for horses that carry weight & jockey! Human sprinters & racers, even garbage workers, have solid traction under shoes for safety . Top athletes have custom shoes made.
NBC aka state run media never missing an opportunity to expand governmental control over every aspect of everyone's lives
I hope jockey Lois Saez is ok prayers 🙏
Me too. I hope all the jockeys refuse to ride for Baffert. That horse was on the injection list. Anymore of Baffert and I am ready to walk alway from horse racing. He is a stain on the industry.
@@ceceliasheart A total of 75 horses have died under Baffert's care. 75! Or is it now 76.
This is the third time this year his horse has been enthused 2 during the Belmont once during the Preakness I’m convince he drugs the horse 2 have been sick during the same time one died during the Preakness he’s a sicko and needs to be disqualified from racing
Baffert has too many “accidents”. His lawyers keep him racing 😡. These announcers are justifying and deflecting its disgusting.
Of course it's the drugs; they mask the pain and the injuries and then trainers like Baffert and others work the horse out and never let them fully heal. Then they race them and they break down because they have not fully recovered from injury and then they get put to death
Enthused about what??? Dying!
There not your horses get over it
"They are".....is what you mean. Get over that!!
We criticized bull fighting but honestly, horse racing isn't that much better. Horses did not chose this life. Greedy men are responsible. If they want to race so much, why are they not the ones out there running the tracks?
WTF are you smoking? It's a horse should they just run wild thru the city? How about you buy land and a stable and you can take care of all the horses you want. I love people who want to tell other people what to do with there property and money. It's a horse people used horses for 100s of years for farming transportation war etc. There not humans but unfortunately we have people who put animals above humans.
Bullshit. These horses are bred for racing, they WANT to run...it's in their BLOOD! These aren't your backyard pets you take out for a ride once in a while.
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Odd, WBAL is allowing comments.
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Just like athletes who keep falling out on courts and fields, now we have horses? I'm curious if the animals get the same shots as the people.
"How can you get to that point when we can't talk to the horses?" We're getting close to talking with horses through AAC. We've been doing it with disabled children for a long time. Recently, people are using it with dogs and cats. I've seen one cow starting. There's probably others I'm not aware of. And, yes, there's at least one horse. What they have to say is sometimes surprising. Though you can see how this could be a big advantage with your racehorse, I don't think we'll find everything they have to say convenient.
Sports with death as a possible result of parties that can't speak for themselves (animals) should be illegal. Period.
It's a no brainer, right?
They have outlawed greyhound racing basically everywhere. Used to be big where I lived in CT till the casinos came in. Seems just as cruel. Seems horses are more beloved. Is it just because the money is too great it continues?
Makes me sick. I love sports, but I can't get past this. I have tried. I have been to the track many times. I can not see any more justification for this other than pure human greed.
If Mike had any balls and compassion for animals he would make a stand against horse racing but instead he's making excuses.
If the horse could talk would he understand being euthanized? Jerks
At least Indian casinos have made big negative impact on horse racing, land being so valuable it’s more profitable to sell to residential developers. Santa Anita, owned by a billionaire, is already earmarked to become very costly condo high rise residences after his ch 11 reorganization. 1 less horse race track. Seabiscuit’s statue can be moved to adjacent park.
I think that it is a tragedy that this happened to a horse today. Ironic that the horse was trained and associated with baffert! Oh, I also think that it is past time for mike tirio to be put out to pasture until he knows what he is talking about!!!
not sure why you would put the horse down. just because he can't race doesn't mean you kill him.
Horses need all 4 legs. Vets said surgery not an option. That's all that can be done is to end their suffering.
Many horses incur fractures and are saved. But fractures vary a great deal in type and in severity.
As poster Allison Lange says, horses need all 4 legs functioning. They are not like cats, dogs (or humans) who can live quality lives with a poorly functioning or even amputated leg.
Horses have surprisingly poor circulation in their legs. This impedes healing in some cases, especially if there has been
damage to the blood vessels. Gangrene/necrosis is consequently a big danger in some types of fractures, esp. compound (open) fractures which would almost certainly result in amputation in a dog/cat.
Horses cannot lie on their sides for extended times; their weight cuts off circulation. Lungs, heart and intestines do not function properly in a horse that is down for 24 hours or so.
Fractures in the upper legs, pelvis or shoulder (this was a lower leg injury, I am pretty sure) are almost always automatic euthanasia cases because a cast cannot be applied to provide proper stablization.
Because of favoring an injured leg, many horses recovering from leg fractures will develop laminitis, a painful and often progressive inflammation of the hoof tissues. This is what happened to 2006 Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro; his serious fractures healed, but he developed laminitis in other feet. (Laminitis is a major cause of equine death in general, not "just" in injured horses. Triple Crown winners Secretariat and Affirmed both were put down due to laminitis. The condition cannot always be gotten under control/cured, and advanced cases are agonizing to the horse.)
Havameltdown was a multiple graded stakes winning colt; he would have had some stud value. The fact that he was put down on the track, not even taken to the barn or hospital for evaluation, is clear indication that his injury was not survivable.
He maybe would have had a slight chance of survival if he did not run on. It is on TH-cam and the leg was flopping around and horribly broken with dirt getting in the wound. An open fracture like that is the end! And that is that! So sad.
Another ignorant person. Just typing away not knowing anything.
Unfortunately when a horse breaks a leg, it is very rare that horse will not need to be put down. Racing or not. Horses on ranches that step in gopher holes are put down due to the fact that horses need all four legs and due to that, the leg never properly heals. It’s horrid. It’s heartbreaking. But in a situation such as a broken leg, the most humane thing to do is euthanize
I think Congress should get involved as the industry thinks it's just part of racing. Not that many deaths! Horses are raced too young before they are fully developed due to greed & it will not change unless forced to.
I loved that horse, so sad
Was on acsident
What a load of BS! Horses breaking their legs is NOT a part of horse racing and should not be accepted as such. This makes me so angry to see this kind of commentary. I love horses and I stopped watching horse racing a long time ago. Anyone who loves horses would never subject an animal to this type of abuse.
I think it’s great you’ve jumped on this potential problem of several race horses being euthanized and are searching for answers. At this same time THOUSANDS of Humans in all age groups are DYING above estimated rates all around the world.
Where is this important story? Where is this investigative report?
I love it let them spend millions to protect the horses by building stables and paying vet bills etc. While they cry murder on there iPhone made by some poor hungry kid in China with nets around the building so they don't jump. Just like hunting is bad while the hunters do more for wildlife then the Peta nut living New York.
So they instantly kill the horse. Geesh, glad we don’t do athletes like that.
Yes. Horses have poor circulation in their bodies, especially from the legs. Horses can't lay down for more than 24 Hours. Bad circulation would not help a horse recover.
It’s the breeding, specifically inbreeding that are making these animals so fragile. Running is what these animals do, it’s not the running per se that’s the problem. The only changes I feel should be made is limit cross generational in-breeding.
Sounds like it was Havnameltdown 🤣
Karma Troll
Dumbass!
This reporter doesn't even know what track he's at...Wtf...
These horses are treated very well. While well over 50% of the world population have Kids starving in Africa human slaves in China etc. People you forget we used horse for 100s of years from transportation war etc. Maybe the people crying can spend millions to buy land and pay stable and vet bills to protect these Horses.
So kids starving in Africa, slaves in China, and because its always been done is the reason for not complaining? Accountability for horse racing is the issue.
The horses are not treated well; they are given drugs to mask pain from injuries and then they are worked out and raced without fully healing which makes them very vulnerable to injury and death. This is why there is a huge increase in horse deaths. It's mostly the drugs.
"My slaves are treated very well. We've had slavery for 100s of years. Maybe the people crying can spend millions and buy all the slaves to protect these slaves."
Exactly. Well said sir!
People die every day going to work or at work, maybe we need to start a campaign to ban folks from going to work.
For you butt hurt whiners.... as of May 20, 2023, horse racing deaths in the United States are at their lowest level since they began being tracked in 2009.
Inoperable yea right.
You speak out of ignorance. Many equine fractures are operable, or curable just with stall rest. MANY ARE NOT.
PLEASE, I beg you, read this article by a veterinarian explaining why some leg fractures are fatal in horses.
Title "Ramey: Why Some Horses’ Leg Fractures Are Fatal And Others Aren’t" by Dr. David Ramey| 2022 Paulick Report
Read also my lengthy response to poster Nicholas Jordan, who also questioned the necessity of euthanasia.
@@marysueeasteregg prosthetic leg.
BAN IT ! HORSE RACING IS ANIMAL ABUSE and we've been saying it for decades, not just recently!
The fastest 2 minutes in animal cruelty!