@Nica Did you know that the Paris perfume industry was born during the reign of Louis XIV exactly because of the stench inside the Château and the lack of personal hygiene ? Versailles is amazing, I have fallen in love with it but especially with the Petit Trianon. We were lucky that there were almost no visitors there when we were in Versailles, I absolutely loved it !
The brothers also shared the trauma of the Fronde, the fear they felt in that time. It bonded them even more. When Philippe died, Louis wept and said he couldn't believe he'd never speak to his little brother again. I feel for him a lot, how awful it must have been for him to live another 14 years believing he "killed" his sibling!
@@SemperUbi_SubUbi I liked him too, though the performance by by the actor plating the King was excellent. If he was 1/4 the witty, sweet sort he is portrayed in the series. I would enjoy his company for a bit.
@@SemperUbi_SubUbiVlahos was actually the very first actor to play Monsieur where he wasn't depicted as a ridiculous or pervert monster. But that was mainly because of homophobia. After "Versailles", there was also an other Monsieur-interpretation that was half decent, the one by Stanly Tucci in the film "A little chaos". Alan Rickman played Louis XIV. That was a really lovely film, btw
I'm here because I loved the series Versailles so much, and I even watched the 3rd season again two days ago. I have always loved the character of Philip, even though everyone there is great. Thank you for explaining a little more about his life and dynasty. It was very intriguing
Horrible husband to his first wife--he was very jealous of her popularity and her warm relationship with his brother, and allowed his favorite, Lorrain, to treat her with contempt and hostility.
I think Anne of Austria, Richelieu and Mazarin did well about not having Phillipe be jealous of his brother. Phillipe would have to be allowed to lead a pleasant life so that it wouldn't be worth it to fight against his brother. It would be a tough situation to be #2.
I am not sure if Richelieu had a hand in this... after all, he died when Philippe was only 2 years old. But mind you, despite the fact that Philippe loved his brother and would not go against him, they did often quarrel and Louis also purposely did not give him assignments, as he feared a repeat of the Fronde. Thank you for watching again 😀.
@@johnnotrealname8168 definitely. I do not know if you heard how the young Louis was subjected to a march of the people through his bedroom, when they suspected he had left paris and when they demanded to see for themselves if the young king was still there. That resulted in a gruesome night during which the frightened little boy was poked and protted by thousands of people passing his little bed. It was a night that had a great impact on the futher life of Louis. But you seem quite knowledgeable on the subject so I assume you hears of this...
He certainly wasn't fond of Philippe receiving attention after his battlefield successes. Louis even commissioned a painting commemorating the victory, but instead of Philippe, Louis had himself depicted as general and victor. If I'm not mistaken the painting is currently on view in Versailles.
Even though the time passed since we got to see Phillipe imagined and immortalized in The Versailles series, I’m still so infatuated with the Duc D’Orleans and his life. No one is perfect. Not in the past nor today, he should not be criticized or judged for his preferences, especially after the way he was raised and living in the shadow of his brother. I especially love his military accomplishments and really wish he could have remained in the military, imagine all the amazing feats we could have learned he accomplished! Anyway love you Phillipe! Forever a fan, Marie Lynn from Nyc ❤
@@TheKingsofFrance I developed arthritis and repetitive stress injury in my fingers, hands, and wrists- not a surprise, I played a few string instruments for 30 years and worked as a chef specializing in Japanese cuisine for 18 years, which necessitates a great deal of fine knife work. I wish I could still play, but I just don't have the strength in my hands any longer.
@@TheKingsofFrance they were oddly similar in their flamboyance and both rich enough to buy anything they wanted. They both held court and liked to control others and neither ever liked to be alone. The sun shone bright in them both! I guess that was where I was going with that realization they shared Sept 5 BD. 😉🤷🏼♀️
In the day of Marie Antoinette and Louis lV, the Duc D’Orleans plotted with Robespierre to overthrow the throne. They made Marie Antoinette and Louis the scapegoats. Mainly her!
I'm doing a video on Philippe Egalité as he was known at a later date, talking more about his involvement in the death of Louis XVI. Thank you for watching.
I watched Versailles,loved both brothers in the series. I lived in St Cloud Paris and remembered roaming in the parc de St Cloud behind our place as a boy, never realising at the time , Phillipe and Napoleon walked those same grounds❤
Hi. You might like this. Here is a 3D recreation of Chateau de St Cloud. Judging by the light fixtures and painting by the grand staircase- its probably in the 19th century . th-cam.com/video/GsAFndH8Wjs/w-d-xo.html
The petty rivalries between Louis and Phillippe are well documented. My favourite story is from the memoirs of Madame de Montespan. Phillippe had ordered his bootmaker to put an extra 2 inches in the heels of his shoes, in order to appear taller than Louis. However, Louis got wind of his brother's pettiness (thanks to Phillippe's wife, Henrietta) and found it amusing. In a counter move, unbeknownst to Phillippe, Louis had his shoes heightened, with a (I quote) "view to perplex his brother." 🤣
@@TheKingsofFrance My pleasure, I love that period of history. Actually, that chapter of Madame de Montespan's has a few gems contained within the eloquently composed words. No doubt, you are aware that Henrietta was originally intended for Louis. Then along came Oliver Cromwell, which kind of screwed up those plans. After all, back then, a deposed English princess has no influence when compared to an inbred Spanish Hapsburg princess. Eventually, when Charles II was restored, she regained her desirable rank in royal terms. Phillippe (Monsieur) was keen to marry Henrietta and begged the Queen of England for her hand. They say Henrietta was a beauty, blessed with charm, wit and intelligence. She sounds enchanting. She's also described as being dignified, with a good nature. Whereas Monsieur was (I quote) "He is small in stature and in character, being ceaselessly buried about trifles, details, nothings. To his toilet and his mirror, he devotes far more time than a pretty woman; he covers himself with scents, with laces, with diamonds." He sounds like a diva. Phillippe so badly wanted to marry Henrietta for one reason, and he shamelessly tells her. "Because you are a daughter and sister of the Kings of England. In your country women succeed to the throne." In other words, if you are Queen, I am King. Naturally, Henrietta found such a thought horrific because it would mean the death of her beloved brother. Nevertheless, Phillippe sought to persuade her that a sceptre and crown are always a nice thing to have. Her reply is pure class. "Yes," replied Henrietta slyly, "but one must know how to wear them." That, right there, is a 17th century burn if I ever heard one! It didn't stop Phillippe. Soon after, he talked again of his hopes, saying every minute, "If ever I am King. I shall do so; If ever I am King, I shall order this; If ever I am King, etc., etc." Once again, Henrietta's words show class, wit and intelligence. It was this comment from Henrietta that led to Phillippe's desire to have higher heels. "Let us hope, my good friend," replied the Princess, "that you won't be King of England, where your gewgaws (FABULOUS word!) would make people call out after you; nor yet in France, where they would think you too little, after the King." The very next day, the bootmaker was summoned. Forgive me for going on. As you can see, I have a passion for history. I adore Louis XIV and the history of Versailles. His legacy went beyond a normal monarch and influenced the arts, music, fashion and so much more, up until this day. He defined style, taste and elegance. But, it's more than that. He saw how they could influence all of society, effectively changing and improving it, simply by being there. Anyway, I love the channel! Thank you!
Thank you for sharing. Extremely interesting to read. I think my channel must not be able to offer you any new information... you probably heard it all !
The "Memoirs" of Mme de Montespan are funny, but we should well take in mind that this is a fake text by the abbot Lafont d'Aussonne, a prolific author of fake memories from 19th century. The text you can find online is an english translation of it. So, nothing to do with the real Mme de Montespan, this is a typical fake ressembling quotes and extraits from ancient texts, "restyling" them for a modern audience. Most anecdotes in these "Memoirs" are from Saint Simon, and many just made up by the author himself. No text by Mme de Montespan exists but some rare letters.
Very nice video! i didn' t know about the true goal of Mazarin, incouraging Philip's flamboyant traits and Cross dressing to make him weak and look weak :o ... may i ask which sources have you used for this part?? thank you and good work
Hi Richard, I got this information out of the book 'De Zonnekoning' by author Johan Opdebeeck. It is a Flemish book that takes an in depth look at the life of the Sun king. Attached a link to the book but I don't think it has been translated into English I'm afraid. www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/de-zonnekoning/9200000088920775/?referrer=socialshare_pdp_www
I'm working on a list of books as we speak, I hope to finish it by the end of this month in order for people to put them on their Christmas wish lists ...
Hey I don’t know if this is too late but I was kinda wondering if there were some different sources describing Louis life shortly after Philippe died. I was just super curious. Also I’m really enjoying these shorten versions of peoples lives. It really helps me with my historical writings!
Glad you enjoy my videos. I'd suggest you to check the writings of either La Palatine, or of Saint-Simon to find out about Louis shortly after Monsieur's death...
Hi, Awesome live history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon. How was your Christmas and your cat Rani? My Christmas was great. My cat Benjamin says hi to you and cute Rani your cat. He sends his purrs. He got lots of cat toys and treats for Christmas. Have a great day see you next video greetings from Canada 😀 how is the weather where you are? The weather in Canada is cold
The moving letters is unsettling and distracting when trying to listen. Show the name, we'll immediately process it and not lose track listening. Thanks. Good videos.
great job with this video, very well done, with a lot of details about the relationships with other people! The character of Philippe in Versailles tv show kind of stole the show from his Brother, but i keep wondering if the real Philippe was anything like that at all. I'm going to read the Madame's memoirs soon and hope to learn more about what they were really like...
Louis was not fond of Philippe II, due do his promiscuity. When Louis’ heirs died, Philippe was made regent but Louis was only willing to give him limited power as he did not trust him. So I think it is fair to say there wasn’t much love there…
@@TheKingsofFrance yet uncle Louis was screwing around on Marie Therese all the time. So I have to think his promiscuity was more or less his example . He probably didn’t see it though. He was just finding fault with his nephew for things he always did
@@TheKingsofFrance true . I can’t help think Louis was an influence in his nephews own infidelities. He probably thought “ oh. Well, my uncle Louis cheats on my aunt all the time so I guess it’s ok”
In general it was more accepted for men to have mistresses, but the promiscuity of Philippe is said to have been quite high… he was a rather freethinking individual (he probably was an atheist) which didnt add to his popularity with the King…
man really did a life man was a general a father a soilder a husband you name it.Seems he had it all.he may have even been a better general than louie the 14tj
I am confused. In the video about Elisabeth-Charlotte the narration says that she burned the love letters of Monsieur after his death, but in this video the narration says that it was Louis XIV who burned the letters. It is my belief, from my research on Madame, that it was she who burned the letters to protect her husband. Nevertheless, thank you for your informative presentations.
I'm doing a Halloween special on the Desecration of the Royal tombs (thought it to fit the 'season' so to speak). Thank you for watching and commenting.
Jacobins are some of the heroes of the modern age. They rooted an ancient royal order and changed not only France, but all of Europe and hence, the world.
Why the fuck did King Louis XIII have light brown or hazel eyes if his dad, King Henry IV had light eyes? Both of King Henry IV's parents had light eyes and all of his siblings had light eyes. 👑💍🇫🇷
I imagine Louis XIV dying young, Monsieur would have been the king of France. We would not have Versailles palace, it would have been a great no ending gay party at the Louvres.
Just Imagine,If Louis XIV Had Henriette Anne Staurt,The Dynastic Situation In Europe Would've Been Quite Different,Spain Would Not Have Gone To The Bourbon Dynasty,It Would've Been Retained By The Habsburgs,As Archduke Charles Was A Contender For The Throne In The War Of The Spanish Succession. The Succession Was Through Two Spanish Infantas(Princesses) Archduke Charles's Grandmother Was The Younger Sister,The Elder Sister Was Queen Marie Therese,Wife Of Louis XIV,The Throne Of Spain Went To Her Grandson Phillippe,Duc Of Anjou,Who Became King Of Spain As Felipe V.
I'm wondering if I should do more videos on the spanish royal house (the bourbon branch at least), as they are indeed interwoven with the french Bourbon dynasty. Something I must consider ...
Charles, later Emperor Charles VI, was younger surviving son of Leopold I, himself son of Maria Anna, younger daughter of Philip III. Her elder sister was Anne of Austria, queen of France. Maria Teresa/Marie Therese, queen of France, was indeed eldest surviving daughter of Philip IV of Spain by his first wife Elisabeth of France, daughter of Henry IV of France. She was married to her double first cousin Louis XIV of France. Only one son, her eldest, survived but he had three sons. The second son became Philip V of Spain. The eldest was father of Louis XV of France. Marie Therese had two younger siblings - a half-sister Margaret Theresa who married her maternal uncle Leopold I was his first wife. And a half-brother Charles II of Spain. The French queen was elder half sister to the Holy Roman empress. Margaret Theresa's grandson the Electoral Prince of Bavaria eas heir to Spain 1692-1698 but he died young. Charles II of Spain chose his elder half-sister's grandson Philip, Duke of Anjou, as the heir to Spain and other lands in 1700. The Spanish Habsburgs died out because pf exvesdive inbreeding and a refusal to let younger sons marry. There were many talented and healthy younger sons but few were alloweed to marry. Philip IV of Spain did not allow either of his younger brothers to marry. They both died by 1640. In France, the French kings occasionally married cousins from cadet (junior) branches and married their daughters and sisters into those same branches. Thus, fir Henry V of France, his father was from a junior branch but next in line after that of Francis I. But his maternal grandmother Marguerite of Angouleme was sister of King Francis. Henry V first married his second cousin Marguerite of France, la reine Margot in 1571, but had no children with her.
Both Louis 14th & his brother are ancestors. Something about a daughter named Henriette, Louis had with Madame Athenais de Rochefort & a son of Phillipe's.
If I may ask. Have you read, or listened to the Red Sphinx or the Last Cavalier, by Alexandre Dumas? These are two of my personal favorites, along with le Vicomte de Bragelonne. Pure brilliance. Longue vie à la France! 😊
I've just gotten into this time period. I am amazed at how flamboyant they were. Lavish amounts of money they spent on their clothes. Totally ignorant of how the masses were living. The struggles between the two brother's and the hatred that Phillippe evidently had, almost seems to teeter on being bi-polar. I'm surprised Louis didn't cut his salary & remove his royal duties to stop his wishy washy behavior.
Monseiur Maria Christina the second daughter of empress Maria Teresa and her paramour (and sister in law) Isabella of Parma (the so called Orpheus and Eurydice) are my favorite LGBTQ+ nobles ever
@@TheKingsofFrance I think Anne of Austria cultivated Monseiur's faminen side and made sure he was close to Louie because she wanted to avoid Monseiur turning into a second Gaston
@@TheKingsofFrance actually sorry but I made a mistake Maria Anna (Marianna) was not LGBTQ I messed up Isabella of Parma 's lover was actually Maria Christina not Maria Anna Maria Christina was allso the most beautiful out of all her sisters and a favorite child of Empress Maria Teresa (still Maria Anna was the favorite of her father) and also the people at court called Maria Christina and Isabella Orpheus and Eurydice still Maria Christina had one daughter ho died young named Maria Christina Teresa
CorrespondenceR crushing 8000 and 3000 jealous of his brothers children World however so much I brothers and his buddy and his buddy next week will talk about so please
There are two present day claimants to the Bourbon throne of France: the current Duc d'Orleans, who is a descendant of the subject of this video; and a (distant) member of the Spanish Bourbons, whose family still rule Spain today. However, neither claimant has a chance in hell, as the French are dead set against any form of monarchy.
@@ericspencer8093 Hello Eric ! You are right to say that the Spanish member of the family is distant and yet, according to the French dynastic rules, Louis d'Anjou is the direct heir to Louis XIV, and head of the House of Bourbon. But you are right again when you say that he has no chance to be king one day 🙂 And it is perfect as it is, not only because France does not need a king, but because Louis d'Anjou is a far right activist, linked to the most extremist part of the catholic church. I think France really does not need this 🙂 Or deserves this… lol
Its put very delicately. But they did torment their wives n women women were used for procreation. Also their circle included children young n grooming was rampant. He was barely interested in warfare n ruling n only wanted to be around young men. He must've got laurels of his generals. He hated riding n hunting. His children hated him. They soeak highly of their step mother than father.
@@carolinpurayidom4570 that’s not really bisexuality…aristocracy had a duty to procreate just in case the king’s son didn’t survive, there was a spare at hand. The wife of such an important person as the brother of the king, had to ensure her survival by producing heirs (those who couldn’t produce an heir were sent back to the parents in shame). She had to be inventive with the gay (second to inherit the throne) brother of the king.
@@carolinpurayidom4570 These behaviors came about during the fall of France, not in its prime. The people were as poor and hungry as ever. A nice palace and gay sex lead to the French Revolution.
@@carlvonfuckwits2934 I know Louis XIV basically set the precedent for the french revolution with his extravagant spending which was leading france to bankruptcy poor louis xvi and marie antionette were the scapegoats
I disagree only on one thing: Mazarin was never Philippe's "opponent". He loved both boys equally, he was like a stepdad to them both and a true friend of the queen. He was as afraid for the legacy of "l'oncle Gaston" as was the queen; they must have told little Philippe a lot of times how his uncle was bad to his brother (their dad), and that he was never to do that to his brother. But as you said, they were good little boys who loved each other till the last end. But that was the only problem for Cardinal Mazarin. I congratulate on your very decent pronunciation of all the French names. You're actually the first (Anglosaxon) author of a YT video about the History of France who is able to pronounce the names right...
You can try "brother to the sun king" by Nancy Nichols Barker and "Monsier, frère de Louis XIV" by Philippe Erlanger... And obviously the letters of Elisabeth Charlotte Of the Palatinate which tells you in depth about her relationship with Monsieur.
@@moonyquetarace4364 Barker is still the only "academic" book about Philip in English, but her "Freudian" approach is totally discredited now, no serious historian would take it seriously today. Erlanger is easy-to-read but quite fictional (he was not a professional historian). You should try the last French biography of Monsieur, published in 2018 by a professional French historian, studying his letters and diplomatic correspondence for an innovative approach. Jonathan Spangler also has just published a book about "the Monsieurs" in French monarchy, with a chapter about Louis XIV's brother.
Much of the history of Versailles comes from the Memoirs of the Duke of Saint Simon, who was a close friend of Philippe's son and at times an advisor of Louis XIV. Unfortunately at the time of the memoirs, Philippe was not living at Versailles and he also died in 1701, well before Louis, so there are some references to him in the Memoirs but not a lot. Liselotte's letters have a lot more to say about her husband Philippe and are worth reading. She is an intelligent, perceptive and entertaining writer. They are to be found in books by various authors in edited form.
Thank you for this video as the series of Versailles introduced me to a Philippe I had never come across. I think he is a complex but enjoyable man. I imagine he would throw great parties!!!
Liselotte von der Pfalz, as we call her in Germany, the 2nd wife and mother to Philippe's children, left thousands of letters. About 5000 have survived of which 850 are in French. They're valuable documents about life at the court. Her frankness, humor and bluntness are unsurpassed. Her complaints are many.
Philippe in Versailles, Season 3 Episodes 3 and 4 " But I saw a Man in an Iron Mask". Philippe was also the name of the character of the "Man in the Iron Mask" movie. He was perhaps a secret the King Louis and his men didn't want to reveal.
Hi, one suggestion could be about the Basilica of St. Denis where all the kings were buried and queens. Also what was a coronation like and or burial for the kings of France..merci
So wait really quick I noticed something & correct me if I'm wrong on this 1. Their mother "Anne of Austria 🇦🇹 " was actually Austrian right? So then should a alliance between 🇫🇷 & 🇦🇹 been summoned already then? (And not with Louie the 16th & marie antoinette) 2. How was his mother Austrian if the hapsburgs ruled it, along with the "holy Roman Empire"(I used to think that Louie the 16th & marie antoinette were cousins)
Despite her Spanish birth, she was referred to as Anne of Austria because the rulers of Spain belonged to the senior branch of the House of Austria, known later as the House of Habsburg, a designation relatively uncommon before the 19th century.
@@TheKingsofFrance so then just to be clear then marie & Louie ARE related then?(she she WAS a hapsburg)(& Louie would have the blood line in him at the time)
@@redadmiralofvalyria867 Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette were related through Anne of Austria, mother of Philippe d'Orléans, father of Élisabeth-Charlotte d'Orléans, mother of François III de Lorraine, father of Marie-Antoinette. The marriage of Anne of Austria and Louis XIII was meant to bring peace between France and Spain, not between France and Austria. At this time, Spain was the most powerful European state, but on the decline.
Could you cover the story of Francois Vatel in a video? He had many encounters with Philippe d'Orleans and there is a much bigger story there. He was the fantastic chef for Louis XIV at Versailles and due to a delivery botch-up of fish for a banquet he was preparing, Vatel couldn't bear to face the King with such a failure, and he impaled himself upon his own sword rather than face the King and his guests (the delivery arrived a day late). I think your viewers would appreciate a video about him and the court, and especially since he had many of his serving boys from the kitchens taken from him for Philippe's personal servants/pleasures. Again I have written you on your Instagram (which you haven't read yet) with some of these ideas since you have no email address where we can contact you. Your friend and subscriber and fellow historian - Antonio.
Actually, I am considering starting up an Instagram and tic toc channel in order to promote my channel, but I never really look at Instagram at the moment... You probably noticed due to there being literally no activity there. I'll go check it out for sure though. I heard the story of Vatel, and will consider making a video, if I can find some good imagery to go along !
@@TheKingsofFrance I've written you at your Instagram with lots of details. You only have 2 followers, one of those is moi. I'd love to actually be in touch with you as I'm writing detailed historical papers on the period of Louis XIV and Monsieur.
@@PoserAddictsLLC yes not a very lively page just yet, but it’ll come. I’ll check out your message soon, but am currently working on something for my actual job which has to take priority
I have made a typing error at 08:06. Of course Marie Antoinette is the wife of Louis XVI, not Louis XIV. Apologies for this.
Ca ne fait rien
@Nica I will do a detailled video on Versailles in September in case you're interested. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@Nica Did you know that the Paris perfume industry was born during the reign of Louis XIV exactly because of the stench inside the Château and the lack of personal hygiene ? Versailles is amazing, I have fallen in love with it but especially with the Petit Trianon. We were lucky that there were almost no visitors there when we were in Versailles, I absolutely loved it !
@@TheKingsofFrance Oui, s’il vous plaît. 🙂
No worries, we noticed ❤️
The brothers also shared the trauma of the Fronde, the fear they felt in that time. It bonded them even more. When Philippe died, Louis wept and said he couldn't believe he'd never speak to his little brother again. I feel for him a lot, how awful it must have been for him to live another 14 years believing he "killed" his sibling!
Funny how life can go sometimes, not even kings are shielded from heartbreak and grief !
The Fronde was brutal.
@@ericbolton9512 It was!
No need to feel sorry for him . It was a long time ago. I'm sure he's over it by now.
Versailles , una magnifica, avvincente serie...
"Ah brother, but, you haven't seen the shoes"... Phillippe to Louis. Best * Line * Ever
Mine too 💕
He made a great point though 🤷
Love it!!!
If he were anything like his character on Versailles, he was just a beautiful joy❤️❤️
I don't think he was quite that charming to be honest... Thank you for watching Kim !
Alexander Vlahos just brought so much to the character. Hands down my favorite performance on the show. Too bad he wasn't the king!!
@@SemperUbi_SubUbi I liked him too, though the performance by by the actor plating the King was excellent. If he was 1/4 the witty, sweet sort he is portrayed in the series. I would enjoy his company for a bit.
@@TheKingsofFranceHe actually WAS lovely. Flamboyant doesn't mean unpleasant
@@SemperUbi_SubUbiVlahos was actually the very first actor to play Monsieur where he wasn't depicted as a ridiculous or pervert monster. But that was mainly because of homophobia. After "Versailles", there was also an other Monsieur-interpretation that was half decent, the one by Stanly Tucci in the film "A little chaos". Alan Rickman played Louis XIV. That was a really lovely film, btw
I'm here because I loved the series Versailles so much, and I even watched the 3rd season again two days ago. I have always loved the character of Philip, even though everyone there is great. Thank you for explaining a little more about his life and dynasty. It was very intriguing
you’re welcome, glad you enjoyed the video !
Good father, nice husband and a great military leader. Thanks for letting us know about him.
Thank you so much for all your attention to my channel, I'm honoured !
I wouldn't say that he was a good husband he clearly payed attention to his homies more.
Horrible husband to his first wife--he was very jealous of her popularity and her warm relationship with his brother, and allowed his favorite, Lorrain, to treat her with contempt and hostility.
@@elainechubb971Very petty guy!
Philippe the daughter the queen never had.
Thanks for watching and commenting Mark !
I think Anne of Austria, Richelieu and Mazarin did well about not having Phillipe be jealous of his brother. Phillipe would have to be allowed to lead a pleasant life so that it wouldn't be worth it to fight against his brother. It would be a tough situation to be #2.
I am not sure if Richelieu had a hand in this... after all, he died when Philippe was only 2 years old. But mind you, despite the fact that Philippe loved his brother and would not go against him, they did often quarrel and Louis also purposely did not give him assignments, as he feared a repeat of the Fronde. Thank you for watching again 😀.
@@johnnotrealname8168 both. But the fear of the repeat of the Fronde definitely was part of it.
@@johnnotrealname8168 definitely. I do not know if you heard how the young Louis was subjected to a march of the people through his bedroom, when they suspected he had left paris and when they demanded to see for themselves if the young king was still there. That resulted in a gruesome night during which the frightened little boy was poked and protted by thousands of people passing his little bed. It was a night that had a great impact on the futher life of Louis. But you seem quite knowledgeable on the subject so I assume you hears of this...
@@johnnotrealname8168 it was pretty traumatic for Louis. Apparently he had nightmares about it until the end of his,life...
He became known as Monseiur only after the death of Gaston when Gaston (Le Grand Monseiur) was still alive Philippe was known as Le Petit Monseiur
Wonderful, thank you. Phillip certainly added colour and fun to the court. 👌🌟
He certainly did ! Thank you for watching. !
Flamboyant and FABULOUS!
Oh, this Philippe D'Orleans was brother to Louis XIV! Now I understand the relation of D'Orleans to Louis XVI. Thank you so much! 😊
You're welcome !!!
Watch the series Versailles!
Louis XIV was very jaleous of the military succes of his brother !
He certainly wasn't fond of Philippe receiving attention after his battlefield successes. Louis even commissioned a painting commemorating the victory, but instead of Philippe, Louis had himself depicted as general and victor. If I'm not mistaken the painting is currently on view in Versailles.
Even though the time passed since we got to see Phillipe imagined and immortalized in The Versailles series, I’m still so infatuated with the Duc D’Orleans and his life. No one is perfect. Not in the past nor today, he should not be criticized or judged for his preferences, especially after the way he was raised and living in the shadow of his brother. I especially love his military accomplishments and really wish he could have remained in the military, imagine all the amazing feats we could have learned he accomplished!
Anyway love you Phillipe! Forever a fan, Marie Lynn from Nyc ❤
The music in this video is one of my favorite pieces- Concerto for Two Violins in D Minor by Bach. I've never heard it done with harpsichord before.
Wow… thank you for sharing ! Do you still play ?
@@TheKingsofFrance I developed arthritis and repetitive stress injury in my fingers, hands, and wrists- not a surprise, I played a few string instruments for 30 years and worked as a chef specializing in Japanese cuisine for 18 years, which necessitates a great deal of fine knife work. I wish I could still play, but I just don't have the strength in my hands any longer.
@@christinapalafox sorry to hear about your arthritis… i hope it doesnt bother you too much in your daily life.
Fascinating! Thank you!
Thank you for watching, and have a great day !!
Stunned to realize Louis the XIV was born in the same day, different years of course as Freddie Mercury. Showy, promiscuous and confident for sure!
He was ? I had no idea. Are you a Queen fan then ?
@@TheKingsofFrance yes September 5th was also Freddie’s birthday. Each year on that day they have Freddie for a day parties (that was before CoV 19 )
Imagine: two Virgo princes, one always on a picky-selfish-hard ass tear , the other always on a softer-selfish tear.
Lol they'd make quite the pair.
@@TheKingsofFrance they were oddly similar in their flamboyance and both rich enough to buy anything they wanted. They both held court and liked to control others and neither ever liked to be alone. The sun shone bright in them both! I guess that was where I was going with that realization they shared Sept 5 BD. 😉🤷🏼♀️
In the day of Marie Antoinette and Louis lV, the Duc D’Orleans plotted with Robespierre to overthrow the throne. They made Marie Antoinette and Louis the scapegoats. Mainly her!
I'm doing a video on Philippe Egalité as he was known at a later date, talking more about his involvement in the death of Louis XVI. Thank you for watching.
I watched Versailles,loved both brothers in the series. I lived in St Cloud Paris and remembered roaming in the parc de St Cloud behind our place as a boy, never realising at the time , Phillipe and Napoleon walked those same grounds❤
I hate the fact that St Cloud is gone. It sounded like an epic place to live.
Thank you for watching and commenting !
@@TheKingsofFrance you're welcome! I love the history of the French court; particularly with Louis XIV
Hi. You might like this. Here is a 3D recreation of Chateau de St Cloud. Judging by the light fixtures and painting by the grand staircase- its probably in the 19th century .
th-cam.com/video/GsAFndH8Wjs/w-d-xo.html
@@artesotericlimited8131 Very cool, I'll check it out ! Thank you for sharing !
😯🧐❤️ Love learning about this
He was quite a character... so was his second wife btw. I’ll do a video on her some time too. Thank you for watching, have a great weekend !
Such a great story.. ty!
Thank YOU for watching Coral !
The petty rivalries between Louis and Phillippe are well documented. My favourite story is from the memoirs of Madame de Montespan.
Phillippe had ordered his bootmaker to put an extra 2 inches in the heels of his shoes, in order to appear taller than Louis. However, Louis got wind of his brother's pettiness (thanks to Phillippe's wife, Henrietta) and found it amusing. In a counter move, unbeknownst to Phillippe, Louis had his shoes heightened, with a (I quote) "view to perplex his brother." 🤣
Thanks for sharing !!! I love that anecdote !
@@TheKingsofFrance My pleasure, I love that period of history.
Actually, that chapter of Madame de Montespan's has a few gems contained within the eloquently composed words. No doubt, you are aware that Henrietta was originally intended for Louis. Then along came Oliver Cromwell, which kind of screwed up those plans. After all, back then, a deposed English princess has no influence when compared to an inbred Spanish Hapsburg princess.
Eventually, when Charles II was restored, she regained her desirable rank in royal terms. Phillippe (Monsieur) was keen to marry Henrietta and begged the Queen of England for her hand. They say Henrietta was a beauty, blessed with charm, wit and intelligence. She sounds enchanting. She's also described as being dignified, with a good nature. Whereas Monsieur was (I quote) "He is small in stature and in character, being ceaselessly buried about trifles, details, nothings. To his toilet and his mirror, he devotes far more time than a pretty woman; he covers himself with scents, with laces, with diamonds." He sounds like a diva.
Phillippe so badly wanted to marry Henrietta for one reason, and he shamelessly tells her. "Because you are a daughter and sister of the Kings of England. In your country women succeed to the throne." In other words, if you are Queen, I am King. Naturally, Henrietta found such a thought horrific because it would mean the death of her beloved brother.
Nevertheless, Phillippe sought to persuade her that a sceptre and crown are always a nice thing to have. Her reply is pure class. "Yes," replied Henrietta slyly, "but one must know how to wear them." That, right there, is a 17th century burn if I ever heard one!
It didn't stop Phillippe. Soon after, he talked again of his hopes, saying every minute, "If ever I am King. I shall do so; If ever I am King, I shall order this; If ever I am King, etc., etc."
Once again, Henrietta's words show class, wit and intelligence. It was this comment from Henrietta that led to Phillippe's desire to have higher heels.
"Let us hope, my good friend," replied the Princess, "that you won't be King of England, where your gewgaws (FABULOUS word!) would make people call out after you; nor yet in France, where they would think you too little, after the King."
The very next day, the bootmaker was summoned.
Forgive me for going on. As you can see, I have a passion for history. I adore Louis XIV and the history of Versailles. His legacy went beyond a normal monarch and influenced the arts, music, fashion and so much more, up until this day. He defined style, taste and elegance. But, it's more than that. He saw how they could influence all of society, effectively changing and improving it, simply by being there.
Anyway, I love the channel! Thank you!
Thank you for sharing. Extremely interesting to read. I think my channel must not be able to offer you any new information... you probably heard it all !
You GO, Louis!
The "Memoirs" of Mme de Montespan are funny, but we should well take in mind that this is a fake text by the abbot Lafont d'Aussonne, a prolific author of fake memories from 19th century. The text you can find online is an english translation of it. So, nothing to do with the real Mme de Montespan, this is a typical fake ressembling quotes and extraits from ancient texts, "restyling" them for a modern audience. Most anecdotes in these "Memoirs" are from Saint Simon, and many just made up by the author himself. No text by Mme de Montespan exists but some rare letters.
Very nice video! i didn' t know about the true goal of Mazarin, incouraging Philip's flamboyant traits and Cross dressing to make him weak and look weak :o ... may i ask which sources have you used for this part?? thank you and good work
Hi Richard, I got this information out of the book 'De Zonnekoning' by author Johan Opdebeeck. It is a Flemish book that takes an in depth look at the life of the Sun king.
Attached a link to the book but I don't think it has been translated into English I'm afraid.
www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/de-zonnekoning/9200000088920775/?referrer=socialshare_pdp_www
@@TheKingsofFrance thank you very much for your reply ;-)
This was a very fun video to watch, thank you!
Glad you liked it ! Thank you for watching !
So interesting , thank you.
Thank you so much for watching ! Have a great day !
Very well done! Liked, and subscribed.
Thank you so much for your lovely compliment and subscription ! I really appreciate it !
Loved watching the video. Can you please suggest books in English which will give a detailed idea about Louis Philippe and Louis XIV ?
I'm working on a list of books as we speak, I hope to finish it by the end of this month in order for people to put them on their Christmas wish lists ...
@@TheKingsofFrance looking forward to it.
Very much enjoy you videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I'm glad you enjoy my videos Randy.
Your voice is unmistakable. You give tours of Versailles. You are so knowledgeable and have a great since of history and humor. Thank you again!
Thank you for a wonderful video, this is very informative.
Thank YOU for watching !
Vive le Roi!!!
8:06 .....Marie Antoinette was the queen of Louis XVI, not Louis XIV.
I made a typing error there. Apologies.
Thank you!! I love it!
Thank YOU for watching Laura !
Glad I watched Versailles on Netflix.
The Series is not perfect, but I credit it greatly to put the court of Louis XIV in the limelight !
@@TheKingsofFrance Yes !! That’s waht I thought !
Loooooovee your videos
Thank you SO much for watching.
J'aime l'histoire de La France. Merci beaucoup!
Merci beaucoup d'avoir regardé et répondu.
Oui. J'aime l'histoire de La France, meme si je suis Americain. J'adore l'histoire de la monde.
Another selfish idiot who wants all of the language in anglosajón All of the languages are correct to express the situation
Hey I don’t know if this is too late but I was kinda wondering if there were some different sources describing Louis life shortly after Philippe died. I was just super curious.
Also I’m really enjoying these shorten versions of peoples lives. It really helps me with my historical writings!
Glad you enjoy my videos. I'd suggest you to check the writings of either La Palatine, or of Saint-Simon to find out about Louis shortly after Monsieur's death...
I thought King passed away at least 10 years before the Duke? The Duke became acted King until the late King’s son became of age?
@@LanPham-tc7ch oh that was this guys son also named Philippe who ruled as regnant under Louis XV, Louis XIVs great-grandson.
@@nighthawk6190, yes, I reread about the Duke and realized I had the father and son confused. Thank you for responding!
Merci ❤️
De rien 😄. Thank you for watching ! Have a great day !
Interesting story, ... now I get why current Royal brother H leads such a colourful life ...after all the genetic linage in Europe is so mingled ...
Thank you so much for watching Sandra !
My favorite city, New Orleans was named after him. Seems fitting to me!
I've never been there Kathy, but i'd like to go. Thank you for watching and commenting !
By all means go. It’s full of music, and really good food. Plus, has plenty of eccentric, outrageous Southerners.
@@kathyg8510 sounds like my kind of place !
Thanks!
Thank you so much, i truly appreciate this kind gesture!
Hi, Awesome live history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon. How was your Christmas and your cat Rani? My Christmas was great. My cat Benjamin says hi to you and cute Rani your cat. He sends his purrs. He got lots of cat toys and treats for Christmas. Have a great day see you next video greetings from Canada 😀 how is the weather where you are? The weather in Canada is cold
Rani had a lovely Christmas and thanked me by throwing the garland on the floor. Give our love to Benjamin !
The moving letters is unsettling and distracting when trying to listen. Show the name, we'll immediately process it and not lose track listening. Thanks. Good videos.
Thank you for your suggestion !
Long live the kingdom of France
great job with this video, very well done, with a lot of details about the relationships with other people! The character of Philippe in Versailles tv show kind of stole the show from his Brother, but i keep wondering if the real Philippe was anything like that at all. I'm going to read the Madame's memoirs soon and hope to learn more about what they were really like...
Thanks very much for watching and commenting !
Monsieur La Palatine and The Mazarinettes are my favorites
Thank you for watching again !
My favorite Noble
The audio needs to be louder.
It was one of my first videos. If you watch my latest, you’ll see I’ve worked to improve the quality of my videos. Ty for watching.
Do we know what kind of relationship his children had with their uncle?
Louis was not fond of Philippe II, due do his promiscuity. When Louis’ heirs died, Philippe was made regent but Louis was only willing to give him limited power as he did not trust him. So I think it is fair to say there wasn’t much love there…
@@TheKingsofFrance yet uncle Louis was screwing around on Marie Therese all the time. So I have to think his promiscuity was more or less his example . He probably didn’t see it though. He was just finding fault with his nephew for things he always did
Kings are always allowed things their subjects are not of course…
@@TheKingsofFrance true . I can’t help think Louis was an influence in his nephews own infidelities. He probably thought “ oh. Well, my uncle Louis cheats on my aunt all the time so I guess it’s ok”
In general it was more accepted for men to have mistresses, but the promiscuity of Philippe is said to have been quite high… he was a rather freethinking individual (he probably was an atheist) which didnt add to his popularity with the King…
He seems like a very interesting person.
He definitely was !
also is it possible you could do king henri of france known as the"good king henri" he was the grandfather of king louie the 14th
Yes, his video is scheduled for February 19.
@@TheKingsofFrance ok thanks
man really did a life man was a general a father a soilder a husband you name it.Seems he had it all.he may have even been a better general than louie the 14tj
Thanks for watching Matthew !
He was also happier than his brother
I think Oberyn Martell from Game of thrones is at least in part based on Monseiur
The city of New Orleans was named after him founded in 1718.
Love 'Emmmmm🥰 You go 'girl'😉
Thank you so much Vera !!!
I am confused. In the video about Elisabeth-Charlotte the narration says that she burned the love letters of Monsieur after his death, but in this video the narration says that it was Louis XIV who burned the letters. It is my belief, from my research on Madame, that it was she who burned the letters to protect her husband. Nevertheless, thank you for your informative presentations.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Huh, no wonder king Louie kept pardoning Julie d'Aubigny
Thank you for watching and commenting !
Desecration of the dead. Robespierre and his ilk were insane.
I'm doing a Halloween special on the Desecration of the Royal tombs (thought it to fit the 'season' so to speak). Thank you for watching and commenting.
Jacobins are some of the heroes of the modern age. They rooted an ancient royal order and changed not only France, but all of Europe and hence, the world.
@@blackalien6873 Not heroic.
Why the fuck did King Louis XIII have light brown or hazel eyes if his dad, King Henry IV had light eyes? Both of King Henry IV's parents had light eyes and all of his siblings had light eyes. 👑💍🇫🇷
Thanks for watching and commenting !
You're mistaken sugar. I think you meant Louis the 13th not Louis the 18th. As for the dark eyes blame his mother, Marie de Medici.
@@ChibiProwl Of course I meant King Louis the 13th. Marie de Medici was a wicked witch. 👑💍🇫🇷🇮🇹
I imagine Louis XIV dying young, Monsieur would have been the king of France. We would not have Versailles palace, it would have been a great no ending gay party at the Louvres.
Indeed. History would've looked quite different !
Marie Louise D'Orléans was so pretty, she looked so much like her father!
I'm doing a short video on her in a few weeks. Thank you for watching !
C’est magnifíquele 😊
Just Imagine,If Louis XIV Had Henriette Anne Staurt,The Dynastic Situation In Europe Would've Been Quite Different,Spain Would Not Have Gone To The Bourbon Dynasty,It Would've Been Retained By The Habsburgs,As Archduke Charles Was A Contender For The Throne In The War Of The Spanish Succession. The Succession Was Through Two Spanish Infantas(Princesses) Archduke Charles's Grandmother Was The Younger Sister,The Elder Sister Was Queen Marie Therese,Wife Of Louis XIV,The Throne Of Spain Went To Her Grandson Phillippe,Duc Of Anjou,Who Became King Of Spain As Felipe V.
I'm wondering if I should do more videos on the spanish royal house (the bourbon branch at least), as they are indeed interwoven with the french Bourbon dynasty. Something I must consider ...
Charles, later Emperor Charles VI, was younger surviving son of Leopold I, himself son of Maria Anna, younger daughter of Philip III. Her elder sister was Anne of Austria, queen of France.
Maria Teresa/Marie Therese, queen of France, was indeed eldest surviving daughter of Philip IV of Spain by his first wife Elisabeth of France, daughter of Henry IV of France. She was married to her double first cousin Louis XIV of France. Only one son, her eldest, survived but he had three sons. The second son became Philip V of Spain. The eldest was father of Louis XV of France.
Marie Therese had two younger siblings - a half-sister Margaret Theresa who married her maternal uncle Leopold I was his first wife. And a half-brother Charles II of Spain. The French queen was elder half sister to the Holy Roman empress. Margaret Theresa's grandson the Electoral Prince of Bavaria eas heir to Spain 1692-1698 but he died young. Charles II of Spain chose his elder half-sister's grandson Philip, Duke of Anjou, as the heir to Spain and other lands in 1700.
The Spanish Habsburgs died out because pf exvesdive inbreeding and a refusal to let younger sons marry. There were many talented and healthy younger sons but few were alloweed to marry. Philip IV of Spain did not allow either of his younger brothers to marry. They both died by 1640.
In France, the French kings occasionally married cousins from cadet (junior) branches and married their daughters and sisters into those same branches. Thus, fir Henry V of France, his father was from a junior branch but next in line after that of Francis I. But his maternal grandmother Marguerite of Angouleme was sister of King Francis. Henry V first married his second cousin Marguerite of France, la reine Margot in 1571, but had no children with her.
Both Louis 14th & his brother are ancestors. Something about a daughter named Henriette, Louis had with Madame Athenais de Rochefort & a son of Phillipe's.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting Adrienne !
@@TheKingsofFrance You're welcome & in going over notes I believe it was Francoise Marie & a son of Phillipe.
Philippe was awesome. The Grandfather of Europe. Mazarin was a miser lol.
I'm doing a video on Mazarin that will air in February, if you're interested in him a bit more...
Always! Got anything on Richelieu? Lol! History crack... I'm addicted 🤣
@@ericbolton9512 yes… his video will air in the first quarter of 2022. So will a video on Fleury !
Yay!
If I may ask. Have you read, or listened to the Red Sphinx or the Last Cavalier, by Alexandre Dumas? These are two of my personal favorites, along with le Vicomte de Bragelonne. Pure brilliance. Longue vie à la France! 😊
Uh oh, HE HAS THE GIANT BOW TIE!!!
Yes, because he's extra !
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Louis XIV had a daughter with completely black skin Louise Marie Thérèse: how can you explain this ?
There’s a video on that subject on the channel
@@TheKingsofFrance
Thank you for your responsiveness.
Can you send me the link to said video, please?
and others plotted for philippe he didnt have too
Thank your for watching Jeff !
I've just gotten into this time period. I am amazed at how flamboyant they were. Lavish amounts of money they spent on their clothes. Totally ignorant of how the masses were living. The struggles between the two brother's and the hatred that Phillippe evidently had, almost seems to teeter on being bi-polar. I'm surprised Louis didn't cut his salary & remove his royal duties to stop his wishy washy behavior.
Thank you for sharing your opinion on philippe. And welcome to the channel, much more to see on the subject here !
@@TheKingsofFrance Thank you for welcoming me!!!
The king lowkey killed his brother and made it seem like a heart attack 😒
Louis XIV regretted the argument with Philippe for the rest of his life and mourned his loss deeply ! Thank you for watching and commenting Chris !
@@TheKingsofFrance Phillipe didn't die from a heart attack. He died from a cerebral aneurysm
@@Juicexlx I know ! video states he died due to a stroke…
Monseiur Maria Christina the second daughter of empress Maria Teresa and her paramour (and sister in law) Isabella of Parma (the so called Orpheus and Eurydice) are my favorite LGBTQ+ nobles ever
Thank you so much for watching this video too !
@@TheKingsofFrance well after all this is one of my favorite TH-cam channels ever
@@TheKingsofFrance I think Anne of Austria cultivated Monseiur's faminen side and made sure he was close to Louie because she wanted to avoid Monseiur turning into a second Gaston
@@TheKingsofFrance actually sorry but I made a mistake Maria Anna (Marianna) was not LGBTQ I messed up Isabella of Parma 's lover was actually Maria Christina not Maria Anna Maria Christina was allso the most beautiful out of all her sisters and a favorite child of Empress Maria Teresa (still Maria Anna was the favorite of her father) and also the people at court called Maria Christina and Isabella Orpheus and Eurydice still Maria Christina had one daughter ho died young named Maria Christina Teresa
CorrespondenceR crushing 8000 and 3000 jealous of his brothers children World however so much I brothers and his buddy and his buddy next week will talk about so please
Thank you so much for watching and commenting Sonia !
Any chance of a Bourbon restoration?Vive le Roi!
If you mean videos about Louis XVIII and Charles X, yes. If you mean an actual restoration: I don't think so. Thank you for watching !
There are two present day claimants to the Bourbon throne of France: the current Duc d'Orleans, who is a descendant of the subject of this video; and a (distant) member of the Spanish Bourbons, whose family still rule Spain today. However, neither claimant has a chance in hell, as the French are dead set against any form of monarchy.
NON!
@@ericspencer8093 Hello Eric ! You are right to say that the Spanish member of the family is distant and yet, according to the French dynastic rules, Louis d'Anjou is the direct heir to Louis XIV, and head of the House of Bourbon. But you are right again when you say that he has no chance to be king one day 🙂 And it is perfect as it is, not only because France does not need a king, but because Louis d'Anjou is a far right activist, linked to the most extremist part of the catholic church. I think France really does not need this 🙂 Or deserves this… lol
Pas en français ?
Je suis desolé, mais mon français n’est pas si bien :(... vous ne parlez pas l’anglais ?
@Real Aiglon thank you for commenting... glad you’re enjoying my videos !
Another selfish idiot who wants all of the language in anglosajón. All languages are correct to express the situation
Its put very delicately. But they did torment their wives n women women were used for procreation. Also their circle included children young n grooming was rampant. He was barely interested in warfare n ruling n only wanted to be around young men. He must've got laurels of his generals. He hated riding n hunting. His children hated him. They soeak highly of their step mother than father.
Original drama queen
Victorious general, good soldier,father of at least seven children by different women,crossdresser,quite the powerful resume!
He lived a full life, that's for sure ! Thank you for watching !
And bisexual
@@carolinpurayidom4570 that’s not really bisexuality…aristocracy had a duty to procreate just in case the king’s son didn’t survive, there was a spare at hand. The wife of such an important person as the brother of the king, had to ensure her survival by producing heirs (those who couldn’t produce an heir were sent back to the parents in shame). She had to be inventive with the gay (second to inherit the throne) brother of the king.
@@carolinpurayidom4570 These behaviors came about during the fall of France, not in its prime. The people were as poor and hungry as ever. A nice palace and gay sex lead to the French Revolution.
@@carlvonfuckwits2934 I know Louis XIV basically set the precedent for the french revolution with his extravagant spending which was leading france to bankruptcy poor louis xvi and marie antionette were the scapegoats
I disagree only on one thing: Mazarin was never Philippe's "opponent". He loved both boys equally, he was like a stepdad to them both and a true friend of the queen. He was as afraid for the legacy of "l'oncle Gaston" as was the queen; they must have told little Philippe a lot of times how his uncle was bad to his brother (their dad), and that he was never to do that to his brother. But as you said, they were good little boys who loved each other till the last end. But that was the only problem for Cardinal Mazarin.
I congratulate on your very decent pronunciation of all the French names. You're actually the first (Anglosaxon) author of a YT video about the History of France who is able to pronounce the names right...
(As a french) This guy is my favorite person in the french history, is there more stuff about him? Like books ect
You can try "brother to the sun king" by Nancy Nichols Barker and "Monsier, frère de Louis XIV" by Philippe Erlanger... And obviously the letters of Elisabeth Charlotte Of the Palatinate which tells you in depth about her relationship with Monsieur.
@@TheKingsofFrance wonderful !! Thank you!
@@TheKingsofFrance can you share the link of those 2 books ?
@@moonyquetarace4364 Barker is still the only "academic" book about Philip in English, but her "Freudian" approach is totally discredited now, no serious historian would take it seriously today. Erlanger is easy-to-read but quite fictional (he was not a professional historian). You should try the last French biography of Monsieur, published in 2018 by a professional French historian, studying his letters and diplomatic correspondence for an innovative approach. Jonathan Spangler also has just published a book about "the Monsieurs" in French monarchy, with a chapter about Louis XIV's brother.
Much of the history of Versailles comes from the Memoirs of the Duke of Saint Simon, who was a close friend of Philippe's son and at times an advisor of Louis XIV. Unfortunately at the time of the memoirs, Philippe was not living at Versailles and he also died in 1701, well before Louis, so there are some references to him in the Memoirs but not a lot. Liselotte's letters have a lot more to say about her husband Philippe and are worth reading. She is an intelligent, perceptive and entertaining writer. They are to be found in books by various authors in edited form.
Sure would have been a hoot to be in Philippe’s inner circle.. 😉 Excellent! Thank you for the historically clear information! ❤️
Thank YOU for watching Sunny !
That would have been epic!
Louis was a Virgo Phillipe was a Libra that says alot .
I am not really into Astrology, Kaleah. Is it a known fact that those two signs clash ?
Yes the Virgo works hard cares about accomplishment of goals,the Libra the charming free spirit
Sept. 21st is a Virgo date. They were both Virgos.
Indeed, the two brothers ‘ relationship is just only of few examples of good and strong relationships among the close relatives.
Thank you so much for watching !
Thank you for this video as the series of Versailles introduced me to a Philippe I had never come across. I think he is a complex but enjoyable man. I imagine he would throw great parties!!!
heir and a spare
Wasn't King Louis Philippe,King Of The French Also A Direct Descendant Of Philippe,Duc Of Orleans?!
Yes, you are correct.
Liselotte von der Pfalz, as we call her in Germany, the 2nd wife and mother to Philippe's children, left thousands of letters. About 5000 have survived of which 850 are in French. They're valuable documents about life at the court. Her frankness, humor and bluntness are unsurpassed. Her complaints are many.
Thank you for watching.
+1 Who s here after WATCHING VERSAILLES?
Me, I love Philippe! Alexander did him justice!
Philippe in Versailles, Season 3 Episodes 3 and 4 " But I saw a Man in an Iron Mask". Philippe was also the name of the character of the "Man in the Iron Mask" movie. He was perhaps a secret the King Louis and his men didn't want to reveal.
Im the Sun PRINCESS born on the Day of the Sun 👑
Oh then it is almost your birthday ! Happy birthday in advance !!!!
Wow 🤩 I just noticed that this video has been watched by 130,000.00 history aficionados like myself. Thank you. xx
Thanks for being one of them Alexandra !
Hi, one suggestion could be about the Basilica of St. Denis where all the kings were buried and queens. Also what was a coronation like and or burial for the kings of France..merci
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll see what I can do about it !
These are wonderful l.. thx
Thank you so much for watching and commenting ! Glad you enjoyed the video !
So wait really quick I noticed something & correct me if I'm wrong on this
1. Their mother "Anne of Austria 🇦🇹 " was actually Austrian right? So then should a alliance between 🇫🇷 & 🇦🇹 been summoned already then? (And not with Louie the 16th & marie antoinette)
2. How was his mother Austrian if the hapsburgs ruled it, along with the "holy Roman Empire"(I used to think that Louie the 16th & marie antoinette were cousins)
Despite her Spanish birth, she was referred to as Anne of Austria because the rulers of Spain belonged to the senior branch of the House of Austria, known later as the House of Habsburg, a designation relatively uncommon before the 19th century.
@@TheKingsofFrance so then just to be clear then marie & Louie ARE related then?(she she WAS a hapsburg)(& Louie would have the blood line in him at the time)
@@redadmiralofvalyria867 Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette were related through Anne of Austria, mother of Philippe d'Orléans, father of Élisabeth-Charlotte d'Orléans, mother of François III de Lorraine, father of Marie-Antoinette.
The marriage of Anne of Austria and Louis XIII was meant to bring peace between France and Spain, not between France and Austria. At this time, Spain was the most powerful European state, but on the decline.
A real Vaudeville 👍
Thank you for watching and commenting Danny !
Shoes. Eneste.birds.Heaven...Angela. Me Louis 14.and My Brother. PHIL
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he was a well known uranist as they were known at the time
Could you cover the story of Francois Vatel in a video? He had many encounters with Philippe d'Orleans and there is a much bigger story there. He was the fantastic chef for Louis XIV at Versailles and due to a delivery botch-up of fish for a banquet he was preparing, Vatel couldn't bear to face the King with such a failure, and he impaled himself upon his own sword rather than face the King and his guests (the delivery arrived a day late). I think your viewers would appreciate a video about him and the court, and especially since he had many of his serving boys from the kitchens taken from him for Philippe's personal servants/pleasures. Again I have written you on your Instagram (which you haven't read yet) with some of these ideas since you have no email address where we can contact you. Your friend and subscriber and fellow historian - Antonio.
Actually, I am considering starting up an Instagram and tic toc channel in order to promote my channel, but I never really look at Instagram at the moment... You probably noticed due to there being literally no activity there. I'll go check it out for sure though. I heard the story of Vatel, and will consider making a video, if I can find some good imagery to go along !
@@TheKingsofFrance I've written you at your Instagram with lots of details. You only have 2 followers, one of those is moi. I'd love to actually be in touch with you as I'm writing detailed historical papers on the period of Louis XIV and Monsieur.
@@PoserAddictsLLC yes not a very lively page just yet, but it’ll come. I’ll check out your message soon, but am currently working on something for my actual job which has to take priority
All that death and lack of gratitude. Spies sowing seeds anywhere they could?
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us !
We have the same birthday. yea
Nice !!!! Thanks for watching !
So was he gay or bisexual?
Historians believe he was homosexual. Thank you for watching and commenting.
The word. Gay means Happy or Cheerful, not queer or homosexual
Bisexual, he had mistresses too.