Watch This Before Buying a Trailer for Your Subcompact Tractor!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video we share what we believe you will need to be able to trailer your subcompact tractor whether Kubota BX, John Deere 1025r, LS, TYM or other brand.
This could not be more accurate. I brought my BX home in my 6x10 dump trailer with a 1/2 ton truck and quickly discovered that was not nearly a big enough trailer.
As time went on I was eventually able to buy an 18 foot equipment trailer and it’s perfect for the BX and several attachments. I also ended up with a 3/4 ton truck over time as well.
To anyone out there wondering how accurate this video was, it could not be more on point. Excellent job!
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it!
Great video Lucas! Some real good sound advice! As for myself, I don`t have a truck or trailer to haul my BX23s around now. I wasn`t for hire even when i did have the truck & trailer. I gave up counting how many times people expected me to do everything for free. People that have never owned equipment like this, usually have no idea what it costs to own & operate it. I didn`t want to become "that guy" that tore my stuff up just to help somebody else, unless it was for close family or a really good friend or two. Other than that, the equipment lasts alot longer when its only use is for you, and not for the whole community`s use. Nobody ever wants to help you pay for broken down worn out equipment. I learn THAT hard lesson many decades ago.
That’s true, it is an enormous expense to own and maintain equipment. Most people think, well since they already have it then it’s no extra expense. You have to have boundaries for sure. 👍
BMW X5 2021. 7,200 lb towing capacity. Tow Kubota B2601, loader, loaded tires, bush hog with 18 foot Rice 7K car hauler. About 5,300 lbs. Works great. Great engine and transmission. Prefer it over my F150. Your advice is excellent. Full of pragmatism, humor and intelligence. Thanks for taking the time.
That is actually pretty cool to hear! The X5 sounds pretty capable. 👍 Thanks for watching!
Good info, Lucas. @6:23 I think most modern 1/2 ton trucks are in the 10K towing range. We tow the L-Series and a 6300# excavator with a Sierra 1500.
You’re probably right. I drive a 20 year old truck. I’m not with the times. 😂🤣
I just got a BX1880 with the 48" MMM and FEL and your videos have been very helpful! I have a Big Tex 60EC 16' dual axle car hauler (and an F-150) that I use for hauling wood pellets and other odds and ends and it should be perfect for the tractor too.
Yeah, you should be good to go with that setup. 👊
My Kubota dealer has special line of trailers from Cam that are built specifically for small Kubota tractors even painted Kubota orange . They are about $5500 dollars. Capacity 7K. I’m seriously considering getting one especially in Tax Free NH where I want my homestead to be . My tow vehicle is a 2021 F-350 7.3 V8 4.30 gears. No issues towing with the tow vehicle lol 😂
That sounds like a good price for a new orange trailer! I’m thinking the Godzilla will probably be able to handle it. 😂🤣 That’s a nice truck!
Very acurate. I pull a NH wm25s on a 14' tandem with a nissan frontier v6. And its not too much for the truck, but you notice it. A 2500 or even a 1500/f150 would make the job only easier.
Another great video. We towed a camper for a number of years and were just amazed at how overloaded some trucks were. I think it has become a lot better with camper dealers asking what are you towing with before the sale. You still see a lot of people towing to fast on cheap tires that don't realize how much they heat up. Your correct when you get a tractor or backhoe you have more friends, until it breaks then they are busy.
You’re exactly right, I was towing mine home just yesterday running about 70 and I went back and felt my tires as soon as I parked and they were very warm! Made me stop and think I better slow down a little. 👍
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I think most cheap trailer tires are limited to 60 mph.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead That is the key word, 'cheap'. Another factor is plies. Too many people think any tire will do on a trailer, and I've had some say, 'trailer' tires are too expensive, it's cheaper to use car tires and accept replacing them (a lot) more often. That is okay unless they fail at speed.
Another factor is plies. Trailer tires need a lot more plies (or a higher ply rating) than auto tires, due to the high axle loading experienced and the flex experienced with heavier, usually not shock supported springs and/or the rigidity of a one piece axle. Any flex of the tire generates heat, which includes under-inflation and that load bulge at the bottom revolving around the tire, increasing with speed. Optimum inflation (to match the load) should result in less heat, even at speed.
I actually double checked my speed rating last night and they are L which are rated for 75mph. I was glad to see that.
One point often overlooked is that your tongue weight is on the tow vehicle. It doesn't count toward your trailer limit, For instance, your loaded gross trailer weight is 8,000 lb. If you have the minimum recommended tongue weight (10%) of 800 lb., your trailer weight is actually 7,200 lb., well within its 7,500 lb. rating.
I have a 20ft trailer I use (had it before the bx) and several times the extra space came in handy!! I'm almost always carrying extra stuff with me and I always make sure I have enough straps and chains for securement!! Great video too!!!
Right on! No doubt the extra space is useful! I have 3 ammo boxes of straps and chains on my trailer. Never even thought to mention that! 👊
Great info Lucas, I think my SUV would be able to pull it since I don't have the backhoe but I would have to rent a trailer to take it to the dealer. Have a great week 👍🏻
I’d say you’re right based on the tractor/loader alone. Hope you are doing well, Luc!
Very helpful information, and very nice guy you are, wish you were my neighbor. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for the kind words!
Very good info Lucas. My dealer up here has lots of trailers for the BX23S. I just need a truck to attach it to. Some day......... Take care and stay safe.
You too, Buddy!
Just found your channel, great content. We have 12 acres and are close to getting it ready to live on and thinking of get a compact to help on it. Your content is very helpful and informative. Thanks
Thank you and Congratulations! That’s such an exciting time!
"I pull my D9 Cat with a CJ5!!!! Always have, no problems!" LOL Great video, Lucas. A lot of people don't realize how fast weight builds up when you have a loader, attachments, ballast, etc. I think my goal is a 14K or heavier gooseneck for the 2607H. For the prices, though... I can pay $100-200 for a towing company if I need to take it back to the shop someday, and I don't have any immediate needs to take it somewhere else to help anyone with any projects. I am, however, accepting donations 🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣. CJ5 with 4 wheel drive and Smokey on my tail! 👊
You right, I'm bout to get one today L2502, if I have to move for someone else they need to come out the Pocket
Congrats! That’s a nice machine!
I pull my bx around in a 16 foot dump trailer with my old 02 2500hd with the 8.1 and Allison transmission. Works great and very handy
Now a dump trailer would be nice! Those old 8.1s are tough too. Sounds like a great setup.
Excellent advice my friend.
That's some good tips on towing and weights. I towed around 10k with my F150 regularly as long as my trailer brakes were good but it was starting to get sketchy. We have been needing to tow larger loads and now that we have the 23 Silverado 2500 can tow up to 18,500lbs, which also now allows us to tow the tractor which just the tractor and loader is 8k plus the trailer and any implements.
Man, 18.5k! That’s a beast!
I did all my purchasing in 2020. I opted for a 24 V-nose car hauler. Doubles as my tractor and attachment storage. Had the door beefed up and extra D-rings in the floor. Came with 4 and I added 6 more HD D-rings. $9800 out the door with mods and taxes. I don’t remove my tractor much from my property . If and when I do, I’d like a 18ft open.
Thanks for the comment. Sounds like a nice setup!
I agree completely go dual axle if you can on a trailer towing a subcompact, they make single axles with 5000lb rating but the stability and safety of an extra axle is worth it, I tow a B2601 with loader and loaded tires, I tow with a 2012 ram 1500 hemi 10,200 tow rating, the trailer is a 15ft 7,000lb rated and I can fit only a box plow on trailer with tractor when loader is on, if buying a new trailer I agree 18 ft is ideal
My brother also uses same 16ft trailer to haul a lx 2610 and only the tractor with loader fits, he tows with a 2015 ram 8,800 towing
Great information! Thanks for sharing!
I told the dealer what I was hauling and what it weighs to determine what trailer I needed. Hauling overweight is how people kill themselves and others. You can also be cited for hauling overweight or with a vehicle not rated for the trailer and load. If you can’t afford to buy the proper trailer you can’t afford to transport it yourself. Sometimes reality bites.
I don’t about other trucks but my F150 has the off road and tow package is rated to haul 11200 lbs. I agree that any load of more than 1500 lbs it’s best to have trailer brakes. It is very nice if you can afford to have several trailers to suit the job at hand.
Yeah, I am a little behind the times on the capabilities of newer 1/2T trucks. I’ve had several folks say their 1/2T is rated for 10k or so. Thanks for commenting! 👊
A lot of modern half tons have a 10k and sometimes higher tow rating, but if you're regularly towing anything heavy, a 3/4 ton is the way to go.
I bought an 18' suretrac car hauler with a dovetail for my BX23S. It's a great setup and can work for other things. I pull with my f250 but I've towed the same trailer with a couple of tundras too.
Yeah, I missed the memo on some 1/2T upgrades. Lol.
Sounds like you have a real nice setup.
I'm trailer less ATM ... dealer delivered for free in 2019 If it ever has to go back dealer is about 6 miles away $75.00 charge for them to pickup bring back on roll off truck. I do have a neighbor that owes favors has a nice 18' trailer that haul the B2601 😄
I borrowed my neighbors a time or too before I bought one. Actually, it’s the first one I showed in this video. We try to trade favors when we need to but I learned quickly that I was going to use the trailer a lot. I figured I better get my own. Haha
I have a Big Tex dual axle 7k dove tail flat bed and a F150... Nice Vid!
Forgot to mention a JD 1025R with Backhoe.
Right on! Sounds like a great setup!
I only have a 10' single axle trailer for now. I have carried my BX23S with out the backhoe attached, with the loader bucket over the front rail, I was very uncomfortable the whole time. Definitely a dual 16' trailer is in my future when I get my taxes back. Truck should be good, a 2011 Toyota tundra 5.7l 4x4.
Sounds like a plan! I picked my trailer up used for around $2k. It has been a good one.
You can also get sway bars or add a leaf spring to make it a lot less tongue weight on a half ton pickup if that's the case. They make hitch setups that take the to give weight off the truck, it's not called a sway bay per day but same idea, I had one for my camper and it made a world of difference. Alot.of.times with a capable half ton pickup the towing capability and the actual tongue weight don't line up. I have a L3940 and I lost track of how many times people expected me to come over with me tractor till I tell them $100 an hour. "What? Really? It won't take you that long what's the big deal" well you can go rent a tractor from home Depot or the local rentals place and see what it costs. Or better yet go buy a tractor ($20,000+) buy a trailer ($5000+) and then go buy a 3/4 ton truck to pull it, even if you buy everything used and get a good deal, tractor, truck and trailer is $50,000. And if you got something that costs a lot less, well I probably don't want to be on the road when you are haha
Yeah, most people don’t see any of that. They just see that you already have it. Lol. Man, that L3940 would be sweet!
one thing to consider is insurance. if you financed and have ktac then you're good. if you paid cash, you better check with your insurance company. my homeowners covers mine when it is on my property only. transporting, other property, etc is not covered.
That is a good point!
Need to add in if have balast weight in the tires.
The next part when pulling a trailer. I don't pull my mini or sub compact 70 mph. I do about 45 to 60 mph be cause of the weight. You need to be able to stop
The speed is a good point, I actually felt my tires last night after running about 70 for a while and they were warm! Probably going to dial it back a little. 👍
If things go sideways on the road you want the cushion of having the right vehicle towing. If you don't and injuries occur they will come for your home.
Thanks, Lucas! A couple of other items is tongue weight and tongue height primarily on non-fifth wheel trailers. People tend to think if it is able to be pulled, it's good to go. Too many then wonder why the towing vehicle is a bit bouncy or starting and stopping is a balancing act. Tongue height should always be set with the trailer bed flat. If not, the tow vehicle could lose braking adhesion on either the front or rear axle. The same could be seen with tongue weight, although that also affects handling. 100 to 500 pounds (typically 10% of load capacity) should be the maximum tongue weight. Had one guy with a toy hauler load the back with all the removable gear, "because it was easier to get to". He was lucky he didn't roll either the SUV or the trailer on a 70 MPH highway when he applied the brakes and the trailer took out the rear quarter panel with a jackknife.
Finally, get a trailer with a good axle position versus trailer bed length to facilitate that tongue weight balance. Remember these tractors are very nose heavy and tongue weight should always be checked after loading.
Fantastic recommendations! All very important factors to consider.
I think the weight thing is strange. my 2002 two-wheel drive V6 f150 regular cab short box is rated at 8800 lb. I would like to think that in the past 20 years trucks have gotten to the point where they would haul a little bit more than that.
A timely video - I'm picking up a new RK25 with loader and backhoe tomorrow and taking it about 150 miles away to a parcel I just bought in northern Florida. I'll be towing it with a new V6 Tacoma that has a claimed capacity of 6300# on a new Big Tex 7x16 car hauler trailer with electric brakes on one of the two axles. I did get a brake controller specifically for this - a RedArc, mainly because of the good reviews and clean installation - but note that everything I've listed here is brand new, so, it could be an exciting day tomorrow... hopefully not *too* exciting. I'll check back in to let y'all know how it goes.
Wow! Congratulations! That is awesome! I’m sure you’re going to love all of it. Sounds like a great set of equipment!
I would like to know how it went and any information you care to share!
Please consider buying a Kubota BX23S or JD1025, the $6-7k more upfront will pay for itself in the long run, especially on resell value 10yrs from now.
@@cassellracing The BX23s was my top contender... until I stopped at a Rural King on a lark to check out the RK24 and RK25. Let's just say the competition was over after I saw the RK25 with loader and backhoe in person. Maybe it depreciates faster than the Kubota (or Deere), but I never put too much emphasis on that since the purpose of tools and equipment is to do work, not be a store of (depreciating) value.
@@tbryson2 Will do, assuming the motel I'm staying at really does have usable wifi, since there is absolutely no cell service at the parcel (got a cell phone booster already, but setting that up is a later project).
I have a 10k lb 24’ trailer and I agree, it’s a bit of a pain driving around with it. But I’m still glad I got it. I can take my tractor and at least 3-4 implements with me with plenty of space. Main reason I got it was because of the price. $4900 out the door with tax and all, brand new.
Man, that is a great deal! There are for sure times a long trailer would be an advantage too.
I know that I'm a little late with this but I have a John Deere 2305 with a backhoe and loader and a 2008 Toyota Tundra Crew Max with a 5.7 litre V8. Can I safely pull an 18' equipment trailer with my Tundra. It's supposed to have a 10,000# towing capacity?
Not long after I got my BX23s I got an 18 foot 10k lbs HD utility trailer. It was about $1k more than the 7500lb trailer, but had a heavy duty gate and dual brakes instead of single. Not hard to justify that one! Now I just need a better truck...
I bought mine used and actually thought it was a 10k trailer, but it was a little misrepresented. (I don’t think they knew). It works, but I wanted a 10k. My old truck is a beater but she pulls good! 👊
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Got an 01 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 in the rust belt. It's worse for wear but aside from a little piston slap on a cold start she's still got it. I trust it to pull the tractor a couple hours at a time still.
@@Gephorian yip, those 5.3s are tough!
You are wrong in thinking you should get a 3/4 ton. I bought a 15 year old diesel 1 ton with under 120, 000 miles for less than a 7 year old 1/2 ton. Now I can safely tow any trailer I might get and can safely carry any load that does not require a big rig. After 2,000 miles you get used to the big hips. You are right in sizing the trailer and number of axles to the weight and size load you will carry allowing some extra room for future needs.
I wasn’t saying 3/4T over 1T…rather I would recommend 3/4T or larger. Nothing wrong with big hips! Lol. I appreciate the comment. 👍
Gesus reading the comments..everyone with a 3,000lb tractor thinks they need a 3/4ton vehicle to tow it. I have a 6,500lb tractor..maybe I need a 1.5ton truck.
Love the guys who buy a 60k truck, 10k trailer, 40k tractor......... to mow the lawn and dig a ditch twice a year. Why is America broke?
People gotta make their own decisions, but yeah, I couldn’t do it.