[Puyo Puyo Tetris AI] Zetris vs Doremy (6) - 2 Pop Puyo

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    Actually, on PC you can't play Puyo vs Tetris with additional game parameters like Quick Drop and 2 Pop. Long story.
    On Switch and other ports, all it takes is to select Puyo Pop 2 and Quick Drop On in the Versus Room Settings screen.
    However on PC, the settings do nothing if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game. The settings are applied only to Puyo vs Puyo.
    Fug Ebin Meme reverse engineered this and from what I've understood, the game simply doesn't care about setting the Puyo ruleset if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game, likely because it checks if there's a Tetris player in existence and considers it a Tetris game.
    What me and Doremy did here was force the Puyo ruleset to 2 Pop and Quick Drop enabled via memory hacking. Easiest way to do it.
    Played live by Doremy.
    Zetris created and maintained by mat1jaczyyy.
    Thanks to misakamm for MisaMino.
    Thanks to knewjade for his Perfect Clear Finder.
    Original Title: Quick Drop 2 Pop Margin Time
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  • @jacobs6229
    @jacobs6229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    What? You can have Tetris vs Puyo with 2 Puyo clear rule?

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Actually, on PC you can't. Long story.
      On Switch and other ports, all it takes is to select Puyo Pop 2 and Quick Drop On in the Versus Room Settings screen.
      However on PC, the settings do nothing if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game. The settings are applied only to Puyo vs Puyo.
      Fug Ebin Meme reverse engineered this and from what I've understood, the game simply doesn't care about setting the Puyo ruleset if it's a Puyo vs Tetris game, likely because it checks if there's a Tetris player in existence and considers it a Tetris game.
      What me and Doremy did here was force the Puyo ruleset to 2 Pop and Quick Drop enabled via memory hacking. Easiest way to do it.

    • @ChewyFlyer
      @ChewyFlyer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Zetris ctrl + c
      ctrl + v the description of the vid

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@ChewyFlyer the comment was written before the description :)

    • @marzel3360
      @marzel3360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zetris but you can have it on pc you just showed the you did puyo 2 pop chain rule.

    • @marzel3360
      @marzel3360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ABEQUINN now i just read it i forgot. XD

  • @artificialair
    @artificialair 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    When Zetris starts making odd shapes with the Tetrominoes
    **chuckles* I'm in danger*

  • @gingeas
    @gingeas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    1:49 this is the most fucked up perfect clear setup i've ever seen

  • @YuyukeVA
    @YuyukeVA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    4:25 - everybody gangsta til Zetris """misdrops""" at 9 height

    • @skrubboi2127
      @skrubboi2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was actually a PC setup

    • @superhuffpuff
      @superhuffpuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@skrubboi2127 are you serious or is this also sarcasm

    • @skrubboi2127
      @skrubboi2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superhuffpuff it was sarcasm I think but it was definitely a weird t spin set up

    • @skrubboi2127
      @skrubboi2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait nvm it was him setting up a tetris??

    • @skrubboi2127
      @skrubboi2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No that was actually a pc watch from the timestamp for a bit no lines get sent and he gets a PC

  • @RIN-tp7tk
    @RIN-tp7tk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    パフェルートを見つけた瞬間にミノの置き方が意味不明になるの本当に面白い

  • @kevinstrand4596
    @kevinstrand4596 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Zetris gets 20 perfect clears in match 1 and 25 total:
    1:55
    1:58
    4:07
    4:14
    4:18
    4:33
    4:43
    4:47
    4:52
    5:03
    5:07
    5:10
    5:21
    5:49
    5:52
    5:57
    5:58
    6:01
    6:04
    6:07
    And almost another at 6:10 before winning game 1
    6:41
    6:46
    6:49
    6:54
    6:59
    Absolutely crazy that anyone can survive against this much garbage for any length of time, very entertaining match

  • @FugEbinMeme
    @FugEbinMeme 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Nice, someone found out how to get 2 pop and quick drop to work in Puyo vs Tetris. Bet that guy is hella smart and has huge meat

    • @normie8862
      @normie8862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes

    • @Boooo
      @Boooo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unrelated but I have big meat

    • @NonJohns
      @NonJohns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't believe you don't know that burger guy smh

    • @bananya6020
      @bananya6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LUL

  • @antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232
    @antoniojoaquinruizalfonso4232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I guess there's some material for "Cursed images" in there.
    Puyos deleting in pairs, the perfect clear screen with a lot of garbage lines, the mass of apparent misdrops for the perfect clears...

  • @dracautiste
    @dracautiste 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Intense battle, was really great to watch all those all-clear from both "player"!

  • @EldenLord.
    @EldenLord. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Those inhuman PCs Zetris manages to pull off never get old.

  • @johnbuttler915
    @johnbuttler915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    5:50
    And the murder began.

  • @Dogamtika
    @Dogamtika 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I swear the god how could zetris calculate all-clears like that??? Thats REALLY INHUMAN

  • @alexander5.1
    @alexander5.1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:27 I had a feeling that was a perfect clears setup

  • @navyhasnoclevertitle328
    @navyhasnoclevertitle328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    im sure if doremy mastered 2pop he could do it

    • @Boooo
      @Boooo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whats the point in mastering something like 2 pop puyo

    • @navyhasnoclevertitle328
      @navyhasnoclevertitle328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Boooo - I dunno man

    • @tomnason
      @tomnason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doremy speedruns Zuma Deluxe which is basically a linear 2 pop game. He's quite good

  • @johnathanpatrick6118
    @johnathanpatrick6118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When Zetris starts pumping out seemingly 12 perfect clears in 2 minutes, you know playtime's over. 🤭🤭😂😂

  • @nihilily
    @nihilily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wumbo : god of 4-wide
    Zetris :
    *HOLD MY PERFECT CLEAR*

  • @user-ex8do7ex2x
    @user-ex8do7ex2x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    zetris「なぜあんなにパフェ打ってるのにやられねぇんだよ」

    • @dahlia9759
      @dahlia9759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      doremy「なぜあんなにマージン多連結入れてんのにやられねぇんだよ」

  • @adicusthegreat9120
    @adicusthegreat9120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Doremy :I'm so going to win this game ive got the margin time on my side!
    Zetris : *performs a perfect clear in 1.3 seconds*
    5:55

  • @user-uw5ng4lh8t
    @user-uw5ng4lh8t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2連の二連鎖目だけでパフェが帰ってくの闇深すぎ

  • @yaltintas96
    @yaltintas96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:48 zetris gets mad and knocks out

  • @wolfetteplays8894
    @wolfetteplays8894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is a weird request, but could you do a video of Zetris playing to the beat of BGM 12? It’s humanly impossible, but I’d love to see it in a TAS

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      To the beat is pretty hard, without some heavy heavy effort. I'm currently too busy to dive into this, but remind me sometime in the future and I might be up for doing it!

    • @supernukey419
      @supernukey419 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zetris When should we remind you?

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super Nukey probably remind them a month later

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I tried doing this around a week ago, and it doesn't work out well. Sorry, can't do it :(

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zetris can it maybe be a speedhack TAS? Would need to slow the music low in audacity and play back since speedhack doesn’t change music. That’s just one idea I have

  • @chooxv8741
    @chooxv8741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The tetris player is at a HUGE disadvantage.

    • @wouazzalus
      @wouazzalus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep but it's a machine so ...

  • @EyeballVandalist
    @EyeballVandalist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine how cool it would be playing at the speed of 4 Piece Placements per Second. That's such a bruh

  • @Major_Mason
    @Major_Mason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wanted to see how high the modified garbage rate goes! I mean, a two chain deflecting a perfect clear is crazy!

  • @num--au2431
    @num--au2431 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    パフェ生成オバケ

  • @theDarkDragonsslave
    @theDarkDragonsslave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know this is an old video, but I decided to go through a history watch of zetris vs doremy
    And damn, in this one zetris decided it was time for doremy to just DIE
    Especially after the 7 almost back to back perfect clears WHAT WAS THAT.

  • @CsQ_RandomRepository
    @CsQ_RandomRepository 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's a weird experiment

  • @tetrismain608
    @tetrismain608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love what you have done with the bot. It is much more threatening with the more back to backs and less combos, but a ton more perfect clears. Will this be allowed in Puzzle League or will it be too overpowered?

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've put it in puzzle league but only shortly for stress testing. No real reason to put it there, especially as less and less high level players play on PPT matchmaking.

  • @user-yc9pr2zz2p
    @user-yc9pr2zz2p 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    まさかここまで強くなるとは。

  • @ruintori
    @ruintori 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats alot of perfect clears

  • @PeashooterTheUnproffesional
    @PeashooterTheUnproffesional 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the M A R G I N T I M E is strong with this one

  • @kyo4973
    @kyo4973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so zetris has different settings you can put on right? would you be able to put what settings zetris has on in the description or something? i thought it would be interesting

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Almost always playing T-spin+ LV5 on 100% speed with PC finder enabled.

    • @kyo4973
      @kyo4973 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zetris ah i see, thanks

  • @bluemushroom64
    @bluemushroom64 ปีที่แล้ว

    everybody gangsta till there is an even number of minos on zetris's board (he can start spamming PCs)

  • @bananya6020
    @bananya6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you make the amount of pops needed *higher* than 4? just for fun.

  • @BaoCypher0912
    @BaoCypher0912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am happy that zetris exists since I always wanted to do this exact same bot

  • @icecream6256
    @icecream6256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Father abuses robotic daughter.
    Daughter refuses vitamin
    Father got mad
    Daughter fought back.
    Daughter died.

    • @kelvindean
      @kelvindean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zed says: "What a favorable outcome."
      (We don't think it's good...)

  • @Ninetails2000
    @Ninetails2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It'd be cool if we could see something like Fever Rule VS Zetris. Zetris' own efficiency at sending garbage would work against him by fueling Fever if the Puyo is skilled enough.

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty sure fever isn't buried anywhere in ppt:(

    • @icelingbolt
      @icelingbolt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zetris probably a dumb idea; but dont PPC and PPT2 run on the same engine? Could you import fever rules if you mod it in place of vs?
      Fever mode itself exists in big bang and skill battle, it's just the gauge, but we already have a activation of it through skill raid bosses so it might be possible to activate it with garbage offset?

  • @LalitoTV
    @LalitoTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    does zetris know how to perform neo tspins?

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      no

  • @sheauwn6974
    @sheauwn6974 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Zetris access the game's memory to acquire information about the game state or does it interpret the screen?

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      memory

    • @PikaChu-um2gt
      @PikaChu-um2gt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zetris When Zetris accesses the memory, does it only see the 5 next pieces in the queue or can it get more? I find it hard to believe that it can do so many perfect clears consistently with only 5 next pieces.

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PikaChu-um2gt sees anywhere between 12-19 at a time. i could do more, but it results in PCs that are too greedy. some are already borderline greedy and cause it to die.

  • @YoshiMariogamer
    @YoshiMariogamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So was the perfect clear finder was off at the at the start until the game was too long for zetris and he just decided to just do perfect clears

  • @phantom_gachalife4298
    @phantom_gachalife4298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    we want a legendary fight:
    you vs wumbotize at tetris.

  • @jchang1999
    @jchang1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do 1 pop puyo next

  • @jackhammer4906
    @jackhammer4906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zetris/Misamino is probably the fastest Tetris player right now. Is it possible for it to do sub-15 on Sprint without speedhacks?

    • @Spidapida006
      @Spidapida006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      sub-1 is reality. that is with line delay removed and nice das config
      theres a vid that uses b2b pc tetris on ppt, also by zetris.

    • @jackhammer4906
      @jackhammer4906 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spidapida006 No, I meant no modifications or configs; you just let Zetris play normally and can it achieve sub-15?

    • @lolwutman
      @lolwutman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a literally perfect tas on this channel of a sprint.

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      no, 19.96 is the analitically proven minimum possible time to achieve on puyo puyo tetris sprint.

    • @Spidapida006
      @Spidapida006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackhammer4906 not here on ppt though i meant sorry i did not pu it there
      its on nullpomino, the name of the bot (where zetris is based) is... wait i forgot it

  • @amaisora455
    @amaisora455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The PPTrinity All Against Zetris?
    I Wanna See Maybe a 1v3 or 2v2

  • @snowflake1135
    @snowflake1135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to download zetris?

    • @Zetris
      @Zetris  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I give it out to top players for practice.

  • @Dogamtika
    @Dogamtika 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm already a fast builder in Tetris but Zetris isn't a human anymore

    • @jfan3049
      @jfan3049 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Laaava Phönix its almost like its not an actual human :o

  • @bear_223
    @bear_223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ドレミー君ぷよも出来るのか…

  • @speedwagonoverheaven9716
    @speedwagonoverheaven9716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how to balance puyo:

  • @sebantoniagomeztoledo5956
    @sebantoniagomeztoledo5956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Doremy got 4 All clears at 0:02-0:12

  • @robloxfan23_
    @robloxfan23_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:17

  • @user-jl3yt3et8s
    @user-jl3yt3et8s 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    しばかずやったらサラッと勝ちそうやな

    • @rum539
      @rum539 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2個消しは慣れてないんじゃない?

  • @Hugelag
    @Hugelag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *confused screaming*

  • @user-km7tm7pm5b
    @user-km7tm7pm5b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:49

  • @amaisora455
    @amaisora455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Zetris Was Secretly a Printer That Had a Talent Of Playing Tetris-
    We Need A Story For This Bot

  • @bananya6020
    @bananya6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    even dumber idea: Tetris (Zetris) vs puyo, but tetris (Zetris) has to play with an 11-wide playfield, and puyo gets 2-pop.