Great video. Very informative. I had the 1st Gen Nest in my first home, now moving into my 2nd one I am getting a Nest E instead. I felt like the 1st Gen was almost distracting on a white wall. The E should be alot more subtle. As far as the display, after the self-learning is done, you rarely go to the unit anyway.
Thanks for this! I have the Nest E and wanted the 3rd gen just because it “does more,” but after watching this, it really doesn’t. It made me realize I havent even touched my E in months because I control it from the app on my phone. I’ll stick with what I have.😌
I’d like the Nest E better if the screen had a dark background option. That might make it easier to read the light colored text on the white device. Because of this, I’d go with the 3rd Generation over the E for my parents’ house.
If you live in texas, there is a rebate from the google store for a Nest learning 3rd gen from Encore (which services most, if not all, of the texas electrical power grid). The rebate is for $75 off and brings it down to $15 more expensive than the E. Check the google store for rebates in other states.
It shows up weird in the video but the frosted glass looks nice. I prefer how the Nest E looks. Doesn't draw to much attention and looks very modern. The Nest 3 gen is no doubt better (sharper screen and metal build), but it really draws attention to itself and I didn't want to spend that much on a thermostat when one half the price would work the same.
I totally agree. I just installed the E and it looks very stylish yet subdued on my off-white hallway wall. The Gen 3 would be loud in comparison. I much prefer the E.
I think nest e looks better because it is a lot more subtle and blends in with a white wall much better than a shiny steel puck. I have nest 3rd get at home and between the two I would have went with nest e.
I just bought 3 for $25.00 each thru a promotion by our electric co. Haven't received them yet but looking forward to installing them. Hope they are comparable with each other, Great video thanks for the help.
The one thing he forgot to mention, I think, is that the Nest E is great if you have a heat only or cool only system that has no c-wire. Most smart thermostats require this wire to provide power to the thermostat. You'd either have to add the wire/power with a work around, or run wiring through the walls. I have an old boiler system that couldn't use any of these smart thermostats because I don't have a c-wire. Now, there are a few that homes with no c-wire can use. This happens to be one of them
I have an E. It made a world of difference in temp dips. More consistent heating and cooling is what I noticed most. Now the convenience of saying Alexa...what is the temp set to? Or Alexa turn heat to 73....if I want to warm the house up quickly. Or vice versa if it seems warm while sleeping I just command it to get cooler. This is by far the most convenient feature. That being said I’m upgrading my hvac which will probably come with a 3 gen. While not totally necessary I still look forward to the upgrade. The display is worth it to me. Overall look is better.
The home we just purchased has the Nest E. Wish it had the 3rd Gen and will probably convert. Definitely thought something was wrong with it when I first saw it. Was Nest like..."how can we make a perfectly good display look like crap so you can barely read it?? **engineer staring at his frosty mug**, "here, hold my beer!" WTF???!
I like the Nest E a lot and the price tag is great, especially now that I can buy remote temperature sensors. Dont know why it took Nest so long to add that functionality. The only Con for the Nest e that I have is that I cant tell if the AC is running or not by looking at it or the app. To me it always looks the same. Is there some color change or fade that I am not noticing? My AC runs quiet and I have high ceilings so its hard to feel the breeze from the vents. The only way I can tell if it is running is if I open my Sense energy monitor app and see the power consumption of my AC unit. Do you know if there is an easy way to tell through the GUI and/or the app if the AC is running or not?????
I think the "blurriness" is being a bit exaggerated to be honest.. i have two thermostats using the Nest E and the look is good. I can see the temps perfectly from a far when it notices me walking in the room area or towards it (also take into consideration people's eyesight). And also like others have stated, you're also going to utilize your phone with the Nest app A LOT, and not to mention, asking Google assistant/Google Home/Amazon's Alexa to adjust settings anyway(if you have those of course). so you either want to save some money based on the display, or you don't. Good buy with whichever one you choose. Good luck, they are great!
excellent and very helpful/informative video. i actually was able to decide on which thermostat to get after this. (i’m going with the E if anyone cares lol) i’m one of those who is attracted to the frosted look of the E, the 3rd gen is too shiny for me 😬
Nest says the 3rd Gen is not compatible with high voltage systems but can the Nest Thermostat E be a replacement for an old high voltage thermostat (mercury based that are rated 30V max)?
I keep seeing Nest E in two versions, a wall-mounted one, and a freestanding one with a receiver. They seem to be labeled the same, so I am not sure if the freestanding one can be mounted on a wall.
Why is the Heat Link not mentioned? I got the Nest E free with a boiler purchase and it comes with the heat link which is installed next to the boiler (replacing the previous Wireless link) and the Nest E sits on a desk - The thermostat for the previous wireless link is set to Manual to allow the Nest E and Heat Link to be in charge. i can't see what features the 3rd gen has that would make it an option over the E other than the casing (is that really worth the price difference?)
I live in a very big house with another couple (close friends - so we can look after each other). We had the Nest E installed and we didn't talk with the installer (they are like ghosts). So, we didn't ask if/how the whole house could be set up to be controlled or at least viewed by two or three different (one's an iPhone and two Androids) phones. Can we do it? and How do we do it? The thermostats are set up as individual accounts even though we are on the same billing for the phones. One thermostat account is for their phone (West Wing) and one for my phone (East Wing) but I can't see or set up or set the West Wing. I like to just adjust the thermostat as needed because I am a writer and my schedule is VERY wild. to know if they are running the AC or Heat so I can turn my unit on. It helps with the billing and with not running temps at cross purposes. HELP!!!!
I like the frosted glass one because when you're trying to watch a movie you don't have this bright ass display distracting you like some idiot on their phone at a movie theater. It looks very modern sleek and incognito. I guess not everyone has the thermostat in their living room, some have it in the hallway or maybe kitchen. But mine is in the living room and I like the dulled down look.
3rd gen is much better. Great functionality, great look on the wall with white side cover and compatible to all types of HVAC systems. I could also Save money and energy with iits ECO system. I love it.
I have a Nest 2nd gen, loved it, but the "ring" stopped working. Now I have to use the app. Can I buy the Nest E model and just swap them out? Or will I break the "E" model by doing that? Like I don't want to disconnect the wires from the old ring, if that makes sense. Can someone test that out and post a comment??
How many times can you set on the schedule. For example I’d want the heating to come on for just 15 minutes 6-7 times in the day . Is there a limit on how many times you can set it to go on an off in the day?
Smart Nest has been installed for over a year, was away for two months wanted to turn heat up nest is connected to wi if but no indication to turn heat on.
I prefer the look of the nest e, but I had to upgrade to the nest 3rd gen because I just had a new AC system installed in my house and the nest e is not compatible with multi speed AC motors.
As a pro installer I would recommend using the other face plates. In theory they should be as long as the correct wire goes in the right place. Remember to take pictures as a back up.
Does the Nest 3rd gen would help saving money on energy VS regular Thermostat? I got the Honeywell ProSeries please let me know if it’s worth if I upgrade my thermostat to Nest 3rd gen
Was just told the same by an HVAC guy for our 100 year old house & 50 year old Lennox furnace. Want the E because it's all we really need...BUT the 3rd Gen/learning will work better if/when we get a new furnace w/a/c, OR when we move to a new place...can just take it with us. Thanks.
Am I stuck with buying the Gen3 since I don’t want to install the needed extra wires ? I don’t have a modern setup (2001) and don’t want to run any wires and just stick with Gen3 to be safe???
Don't know if you ever got your question answered, but I just installed one (nest-e) yesterday in a house with a bryant furnace that uses a two wire heat only system. It worked, but I drove myself crazy getting it there. The first unit I had had a faulty back mounting/wiring plate that kept giving a "no power to r wire" error. I just hooked up the white to "w" and "red" (which someone has actually spliced in blue at some point) to "r".
Do you need variable heating systems for temperature sensors to work in different parts of the house? I have one thermostat, 4 levels (backsplit house)
+Zenairo thanks! It's not an Embr ring, but those Embr rings look pretty good. Mine is some inexpensive tungsten ring I got on Amazon. Maybe I should turn up the temp before my family gets sick.
lol,66 is freezing?you must live in the south?my new construction house rarely sees above 67 and turned down to 65 or lower at night or my family will literally wake up because to hot in house.a wisconsin thing maybe! ha ha
Hey...thank you for your excellent description of the Nest. I was offered a nest plan with my electric company, but it sounds a bit intimidating....like big brother is watching, and controlling my thermostat. Do you have any information regarding this plan? Reliant is giving a nest away free if I sign up for the plan. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
In your review you did not mention using any sensors being placed in any specific room. How is the thermostat to learn how to control temp in the house without sensors.
Im in the business the old thermostat must have wire connections, R, Y, W, G and C or for heat pumps also O/B and aux heat terminals... if its a furnace only no cooling you only need R, W and C terminals... G is optional its a fan ON option no heat or cool.... NEST will not work with 'communicating systems'.. these do not have the above lettered terminals
I've installed both professionally. Nest E is great, but it shows dirt really bad. If you're a set it and forget it type of person, this isn't a big deal. But many people still seem ingrained to use the actual thermostat to make adjustments rather than the app or schedule, and they get really gross looking really quick from finger dirt. Also, if you have a heat pump system, or multiple stages of heating or cooling, you'll want/need the pricier model. They ARE compatible with many heat pumps, but they seem to have real issues with some. We quit installing the Nest E with our service as a result of this single issue.
We got our Nest E for free from the government through Alberta Efficiency to replace the home's original bimetallic thermostat so it's great for that price but really the efficiency comes from the programmable schedule which you can get from a $20 thermostat. Sure this allows control over the Internet but really what warrants the extra $200 and constantly exporting your setting and current temperature to a corporate server not under your control and perhaps in another country? What happens if Nest goes out of business, will this product work without their corporate server? Can it be hacked to use your own server in your home DMZ? Also, there are two thermostats in our home but the government only gave one thermostat per home, are there any less expensive internet in everything thermostats that would work in tandem with the Nest products? Perhaps they should have a product which only communicated locally to a home control product or a main thermostat so you can limit outside contact to a single contact or perhaps not have remote contact and data exportation at all. I would prefer a product that only connected with products on the local LAN cause then I would just VPN my phone in order to control it remotely hence removing exportation of data and restricting access to an encrypted connection with keys only available to me as well as giving me a product which I know will continue to function in 40 years even if the parent company goes under. These companies need to act like insurance companies and sign agreements with each other to assume each other's server roles if they can no longer do so. Even with the thermostat being free, I don't think these products are a very wise choice, the old Lennox bimetallic thermostat was 40 years old and could be expected to continue operating for another 40, will this Nest make it past twenty years, ten years or even five? There's certainly a potential for regretting the choice of such a product even if it's free.
what is the temperature Differential on the nest? example set to cool at 70 does it turn on at 71 and off when 69 degrees is reached or does it turn off when 70 is reached?
+slo non for our system if we set it to 70 deg and it's on Cool it will usually turn off and the temperature is 69 deg. The Nest will run just our fan a short while before turning off to get all that cool air out of the air vents. This could make the temperature even go down more than an extra degree but usually, it's just a temperature swing of 1 degree. Nest will run as few times as possible for slightly longer lengths so your system doesn't wear down as fast.
+Sam F they charge from the wires in the wall. You can check the charge level of the battery in the app or on the thermostat to make sure it has enough juice.
they are installing the nest e here next week whether we want it or not i want to just use it manually not wifi and i only want it to be 75 degrees at all times not more than 1 degree above or below that at any time 24/365 can i get it to do that and how would i get it to do that if i can? thanks
+justjohnny05 yes you can have it be 75 degrees all the time. Just turn the Mode to Heat - Cool and set the temperature to 75 degrees. I would recommend to just choose Cool mode if it's hot outside during the day but at night your house cools down so the heat doesn't come on to keep it at 75.
How accurate are they and what is the temperature spread? If I have it set to 74 on air conditioning, will the lowest spread be like 74.5 and the air will go on? Or is it like a whole degree before it goes on or off? Great review. 👍🏻
I have radiant heat, 4 zones, 1 nest 3rd gen, and 3 dumb thermostats. I don't want to shell out for 3 more 3rd gens. Do you know if the e gets along well with the third gen in the same setup?
+jaklumpp thanks for the comment. You can't change the temperature of all the thermostats at the same time but it gets along well with the 3rd Gen fine since they are in the same app. And if you are away from your house then all the thermostats can switch to away mode which is key.
Great review, thanks. Are you aware of the "No C-wire" issues many are having? I was just about to order the E but I'm concerned I may have the cycling issue on my older HVAC system that does not have a C-wire. Nest compatability says it'll work for the wires that I currently have but the said that for many who have the cycling issue die to no c-wire. Any thoughts regarding that?
I hope I read your question correctly. The nest 3rd gen wiring bracket comes with aux slot. I would recommend taking of old thermostats and taking pic to identify wires. If have any wires you not sure about use aux. The nest will check wires also to confirm correct wiring.
@@jarotblackmon I have 4 wires and I know what each one is for. However, I've seen online many people have issues running a nest without the C wire. The C wire provides constant power to the nest battery. Without the C wire the nest battery is only charges when the HVAC is running. Which could lead to the cycling on/off issue. I just ordered the Nest E anyway. It's super easy to add the C wire. In fact, there are kits to add a C wire to the HVAC for about $15.
@@jarotblackmon No worries. I was concerned too until I saw my friends E installed. For my situation, that frosted muted look on my wall is what I want. Now if the make a while body like the E with the gen3 clear display I'm sold LoL.
If you have three thermostats for different zones in your house can you use these? I'm assuming you would need three nest devices, but then can you label them to know which one is which in your app?
Hi +Andrew Bognanno. Yes you can give each device a name in the app so it will be really easy to tell them apart. And that's where the Nest E is helpful in that you can have all your thermostats managed in the Nest app for a cheaper price.
I currently have two separate thermostats for heating and cooling, located in different parts of my house . Will the nest system and App allow having two thermostats?
Why in the world would they frost... the lens on the E to make it harder to see? I am thinking of getting a 3rd genration for my parents, just so they could see it and read it easier.
Bought our Nest 3rd Gen a month ago for $99, had a rebate from Home Depot, plus a rebate from our electric company.. Win win for us. Love it!!!
Got the same deal today from my power company and Home Depot. I love the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat!
Nest e is value for money. Nest 3rd generation is of better build quality and better display.
And also adds more benefits such as 2nd and 3rd stage heating
Well my Walmart had the nest e and Google home mini on clearance for 79.00. Bought the bundle. Works fine.
Wow
I missed that deal on Black Friday :(
Pog
Great video. Very informative. I had the 1st Gen Nest in my first home, now moving into my 2nd one I am getting a Nest E instead. I felt like the 1st Gen was almost distracting on a white wall. The E should be alot more subtle. As far as the display, after the self-learning is done, you rarely go to the unit anyway.
I do not gethow some people can give thumbs down to a nice and fair presentation like this gentleman did.
I can't stop looking. it. The 3rd gen looks just perfect to my eye
Clever way to record the farsight! Painted a perfect picture of the feature!!
Thanks for this! I have the Nest E and wanted the 3rd gen just because it “does more,” but after watching this, it really doesn’t. It made me realize I havent even touched my E in months because I control it from the app on my phone. I’ll stick with what I have.😌
I’d like the Nest E better if the screen had a dark background option. That might make it easier to read the light colored text on the white device. Because of this, I’d go with the 3rd Generation over the E for my parents’ house.
If you live in texas, there is a rebate from the google store for a Nest learning 3rd gen from Encore (which services most, if not all, of the texas electrical power grid). The rebate is for $75 off and brings it down to $15 more expensive than the E. Check the google store for rebates in other states.
It shows up weird in the video but the frosted glass looks nice. I prefer how the Nest E looks. Doesn't draw to much attention and looks very modern.
The Nest 3 gen is no doubt better (sharper screen and metal build), but it really draws attention to itself and I didn't want to spend that much on a thermostat when one half the price would work the same.
I totally agree. I just installed the E and it looks very stylish yet subdued on my off-white hallway wall. The Gen 3 would be loud in comparison. I much prefer the E.
yup. the black nest 3 clashes with my wife's modern farmhouse style.
As a person with "older" eyes I do not need something purposely made blurrier no matter how "modern" it looks!! Thanks for the comparison.
Use the Nest app and you won't have to interact with it physically at all :-)
I think nest e looks better because it is a lot more subtle and blends in with a white wall much better than a shiny steel puck. I have nest 3rd get at home and between the two I would have went with nest e.
3rd gen comes in 4 different color rings also.
Is it reliable so far? I read so many complaints about its unreliability.
I won a nest e on goodwill auctions for wayyy less than msrp. Excited to get it installed.
I just bought 3 for $25.00 each thru a promotion by our electric co. Haven't received them yet but looking forward to installing them. Hope they are comparable with each other, Great video thanks for the help.
The one thing he forgot to mention, I think, is that the Nest E is great if you have a heat only or cool only system that has no c-wire. Most smart thermostats require this wire to provide power to the thermostat. You'd either have to add the wire/power with a work around, or run wiring through the walls. I have an old boiler system that couldn't use any of these smart thermostats because I don't have a c-wire. Now, there are a few that homes with no c-wire can use. This happens to be one of them
2:24 why is he talking about the weight? It’s gonna be on the wall
Weight plays a big part in perceived quality.
It's an indication of quality. It's not the same as handheld tech where you're looking for the lightest weight item you can find.
I have an E. It made a world of difference in temp dips. More consistent heating and cooling is what I noticed most. Now the convenience of saying Alexa...what is the temp set to? Or Alexa turn heat to 73....if I want to warm the house up quickly. Or vice versa if it seems warm while sleeping I just command it to get cooler. This is by far the most convenient feature. That being said I’m upgrading my hvac which will probably come with a 3 gen. While not totally necessary I still look forward to the upgrade. The display is worth it to me. Overall look is better.
The home we just purchased has the Nest E. Wish it had the 3rd Gen and will probably convert. Definitely thought something was wrong with it when I first saw it. Was Nest like..."how can we make a perfectly good display look like crap so you can barely read it?? **engineer staring at his frosty mug**, "here, hold my beer!" WTF???!
I like the Nest E a lot and the price tag is great, especially now that I can buy remote temperature sensors. Dont know why it took Nest so long to add that functionality. The only Con for the Nest e that I have is that I cant tell if the AC is running or not by looking at it or the app. To me it always looks the same. Is there some color change or fade that I am not noticing? My AC runs quiet and I have high ceilings so its hard to feel the breeze from the vents. The only way I can tell if it is running is if I open my Sense energy monitor app and see the power consumption of my AC unit. Do you know if there is an easy way to tell through the GUI and/or the app if the AC is running or not?????
I think the frost glass is terrible. Why would i pay for blurry....
swflracing because you're only going to use your phone from now on..
It's to soften the low resolution display
I think the "blurriness" is being a bit exaggerated to be honest.. i have two thermostats using the Nest E and the look is good. I can see the temps perfectly from a far when it notices me walking in the room area or towards it (also take into consideration people's eyesight). And also like others have stated, you're also going to utilize your phone with the Nest app A LOT, and not to mention, asking Google assistant/Google Home/Amazon's Alexa to adjust settings anyway(if you have those of course). so you either want to save some money based on the display, or you don't. Good buy with whichever one you choose. Good luck, they are great!
yes it is i'm getting a nest 3rd gen. my first smart thermostat
Honestly, I put in the Nest E, ive touched it twice in 2 weeks. I use my phone or ask googs to change the temp
Thanks for the info. Seems easy to install, next gen 3 is what I will get for our new place.
excellent and very helpful/informative video. i actually was able to decide on which thermostat to get after this. (i’m going with the E if anyone cares lol)
i’m one of those who is attracted to the frosted look of the E, the 3rd gen is too shiny for me 😬
Thanks your review came in really handy 👍👍👍
Nest says the 3rd Gen is not compatible with high voltage systems but can the Nest Thermostat E be a replacement for an old high voltage thermostat (mercury based that are rated 30V max)?
I keep seeing Nest E in two versions, a wall-mounted one, and a freestanding one with a receiver. They seem to be labeled the same, so I am not sure if the freestanding one can be mounted on a wall.
Why is the Heat Link not mentioned? I got the Nest E free with a boiler purchase and it comes with the heat link which is installed next to the boiler (replacing the previous Wireless link) and the Nest E sits on a desk - The thermostat for the previous wireless link is set to Manual to allow the Nest E and Heat Link to be in charge. i can't see what features the 3rd gen has that would make it an option over the E other than the casing (is that really worth the price difference?)
Hi as we do not have a wall thermostat how is the nest e / nest 3rd generation charged.
Thanks for helping my make my decision! I'm going 3rd. Gen.
me too. I think the display sharpness , the non-plastic feel, the alternative displays are worth 80dolars extra
you have never mentioned about mentoring other rooms temp? any sensors?
With 2 rental properties, Will my phone be able to control each thermostat individually?
4:31 who else thinks the degree 72 looks like a bent person???? :D
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@@herohunter81 lolol
I live in a very big house with another couple (close friends - so we can look after each other). We had the Nest E installed and we didn't talk with the installer (they are like ghosts). So, we didn't ask if/how the whole house could be set up to be controlled or at least viewed by two or three different (one's an iPhone and two Androids) phones. Can we do it? and How do we do it? The thermostats are set up as individual accounts even though we are on the same billing for the phones. One thermostat account is for their phone (West Wing) and one for my phone (East Wing) but I can't see or set up or set the West Wing. I like to just adjust the thermostat as needed because I am a writer and my schedule is VERY wild. to know if they are running the AC or Heat so I can turn my unit on. It helps with the billing and with not running temps at cross purposes. HELP!!!!
Does the Nest E support multi-zone? Control both thermostats from a single interface?
I like the frosted glass one because when you're trying to watch a movie you don't have this bright ass display distracting you like some idiot on their phone at a movie theater. It looks very modern sleek and incognito. I guess not everyone has the thermostat in their living room, some have it in the hallway or maybe kitchen. But mine is in the living room and I like the dulled down look.
The light doesn't have to stay on if you use "wake on approach".
@@Ramel34 Good point. I still haven't bought one yet lol.
@@mawage666 No problem, if you have any questions you can ask me I work for them 😉.
Nest E needs to be liquidated!
3rd gen is much better. Great functionality, great look on the wall with white side cover and compatible to all types of HVAC systems. I could also Save money and energy with iits ECO system. I love it.
I just bought what I believe is the Nest 3rd Gen and I can't wait to get it set up
Important note, if you have a variable speed AC unit, you need the 3rd gen nest.
This is great- can this work by 220v power supply . Thx
I love my nest E!
I have a Nest 2nd gen, loved it, but the "ring" stopped working. Now I have to use the app. Can I buy the Nest E model and just swap them out? Or will I break the "E" model by doing that? Like I don't want to disconnect the wires from the old ring, if that makes sense. Can someone test that out and post a comment??
How many times can you set on the schedule. For example I’d want the heating to come on for just 15 minutes 6-7 times in the day . Is there a limit on how many times you can set it to go on an off in the day?
Smart Nest has been installed for over a year, was away for two months wanted to turn heat up nest is connected to wi if but no indication to turn heat on.
I prefer the look of the nest e, but I had to upgrade to the nest 3rd gen because I just had a new AC system installed in my house and the nest e is not compatible with multi speed AC motors.
Nest E is good for black wallpapers because they stand out and the same for the learning which stands out on white wallpapers.
Do you need to rewire if switching from a Nest E to a Nest 3rd Gen? Or is the base & backplate interchangeable between the two?
As a pro installer I would recommend using the other face plates. In theory they should be as long as the correct wire goes in the right place. Remember to take pictures as a back up.
Do you know if the nest 3 gen wire base can fit the thermostat e ?
Does the Nest 3rd gen would help saving money on energy VS regular Thermostat? I got the Honeywell ProSeries please let me know if it’s worth if I upgrade my thermostat to Nest 3rd gen
Ok, I dont see any wires on my thermostat ? Only batteries. Which one would be compatible ? thanks!
If you know you're going to move in the future, just get the 3rd gen. I just moved and my new house happens to not work with the Nest E.
That’s good insight, thanks for sharing
Was just told the same by an HVAC guy for our 100 year old house & 50 year old Lennox furnace. Want the E because it's all we really need...BUT the 3rd Gen/learning will work better if/when we get a new furnace w/a/c, OR when we move to a new place...can just take it with us. Thanks.
Hi, I want to use nest with electric heating panels, is there any chance to turn them on and off with a smart plug? Thanks!
Am I stuck with buying the Gen3 since I don’t want to install the needed extra wires ? I don’t have a modern setup (2001) and don’t want to run any wires and just stick with Gen3 to be safe???
Whatever you want
I don’t think you’ll have to use all 10
Always check for rebates from your local power company.
Great video. Well done. Told me everything I need to know. Like the side by side unboxing.
Thanks for the video. I have the Nest 3rd gen. Can I buy the nest E and place it on the wall base that’s holding the nest 3rd gen?
I need 2 thermostat at home. Will both work if I purchase an E and the third gen for my main floor level? Can I use both on app?
Perfectly answered my question. Thanks chief!
Does the nest E work for a 2 wite (black & white) line voltage heat only system?
Don't know if you ever got your question answered, but I just installed one (nest-e) yesterday in a house with a bryant furnace that uses a two wire heat only system. It worked, but I drove myself crazy getting it there. The first unit I had had a faulty back mounting/wiring plate that kept giving a "no power to r wire" error. I just hooked up the white to "w" and "red" (which someone has actually spliced in blue at some point) to "r".
@@mattysoho Thanks man. I wound up watching a few more videos and out of sheer stupidity got the thermostat working. lol
Do you need variable heating systems for temperature sensors to work in different parts of the house? I have one thermostat, 4 levels (backsplit house)
Brenda, did you ever find out the answer to your question? Did you buy a Nest?
We have the Nest E but agree with most, I would have rather had the clear glass.
Can we use Nest 3rd generation thermostat here I have Solar house includes water heater on solar too.
Is that an Embr ring? Also, 66 is FREEZING. Great video, thanks!
+Zenairo thanks! It's not an Embr ring, but those Embr rings look pretty good. Mine is some inexpensive tungsten ring I got on Amazon. Maybe I should turn up the temp before my family gets sick.
lol,66 is freezing?you must live in the south?my new construction house rarely sees above 67 and turned down to 65 or lower at night or my family will literally wake up because to hot in house.a wisconsin thing maybe! ha ha
rooster our home stays on 69-71 year round. 71 only when it’s freezing cold out and the wife complains enough.
rooster Florida here. We have 74 in our house at all times.
Hey...thank you for your excellent description of the Nest. I was offered a nest plan with my electric company, but it sounds a bit intimidating....like big brother is watching, and controlling my thermostat. Do you have any information regarding this plan? Reliant is giving a nest away free if I sign up for the plan. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
thanks for the video, appreciate the comparison
In your review you did not mention using any sensors being placed in any specific room. How is the thermostat to learn how to control temp in the house without sensors.
Can I control the fan to run without the heat or cool?
I have the e and yes you can
The language does not have the option in "Portuguese" will have to put after type acquire an update or this option would not have put?
A tip. If you are in the state of Maryland, Pepco offers a $100 rebate for either of the Nest thermostats.
and BGE as well
Dude... I had this Nest 3rd gen for over a year and I never knew it had a backplate!!!
Im in the business the old thermostat must have wire connections, R, Y, W, G and C or for heat pumps also O/B and aux heat terminals... if its a furnace only no cooling you only need R, W and C terminals... G is optional its a fan ON option no heat or cool.... NEST will not work with 'communicating systems'.. these do not have the above lettered terminals
And my g can go to a c if I switch it at the furnace too....right?
ps do you suggest an E or the learning....if we tend to keep the temp the same and just want to remote control it?
@@NY-152 correct
I've installed both professionally. Nest E is great, but it shows dirt really bad. If you're a set it and forget it type of person, this isn't a big deal. But many people still seem ingrained to use the actual thermostat to make adjustments rather than the app or schedule, and they get really gross looking really quick from finger dirt.
Also, if you have a heat pump system, or multiple stages of heating or cooling, you'll want/need the pricier model. They ARE compatible with many heat pumps, but they seem to have real issues with some. We quit installing the Nest E with our service as a result of this single issue.
Do either of the Nest thermostats make a clicking noise? ... Ask due to swapping room thormastic in bedrooms
We got our Nest E for free from the government through Alberta Efficiency to replace the home's original bimetallic thermostat so it's great for that price but really the efficiency comes from the programmable schedule which you can get from a $20 thermostat. Sure this allows control over the Internet but really what warrants the extra $200 and constantly exporting your setting and current temperature to a corporate server not under your control and perhaps in another country? What happens if Nest goes out of business, will this product work without their corporate server? Can it be hacked to use your own server in your home DMZ? Also, there are two thermostats in our home but the government only gave one thermostat per home, are there any less expensive internet in everything thermostats that would work in tandem with the Nest products? Perhaps they should have a product which only communicated locally to a home control product or a main thermostat so you can limit outside contact to a single contact or perhaps not have remote contact and data exportation at all. I would prefer a product that only connected with products on the local LAN cause then I would just VPN my phone in order to control it remotely hence removing exportation of data and restricting access to an encrypted connection with keys only available to me as well as giving me a product which I know will continue to function in 40 years even if the parent company goes under. These companies need to act like insurance companies and sign agreements with each other to assume each other's server roles if they can no longer do so. Even with the thermostat being free, I don't think these products are a very wise choice, the old Lennox bimetallic thermostat was 40 years old and could be expected to continue operating for another 40, will this Nest make it past twenty years, ten years or even five? There's certainly a potential for regretting the choice of such a product even if it's free.
John Wang sense nest is owned by Google, is has proven to be a widely popular branch of their business, I don’t don’t see them going anywhere.
Got mine for free as well but fuck it it's free hahah if it breaks I'll go back to my old 1
Hi, where would you look to see if your present thermostat is high voltage(120/240) and thus not compatible?
There is one connector I did not see available on the 3rd gen W/E is this the same as W1 or W2 AUX? All others are available to connect my system.
Great video bro. Thanks for the info. You helped me make a decision.
Anyone know if the * can be used for W1? (second stage of heat)
Please talk a bit about Home/Away Assist differences between the two and whether this feature actually works. Thanks.
what is the temperature Differential on the nest? example set to cool at 70 does it turn on at 71 and off when 69 degrees is reached or does it turn off when 70 is reached?
+slo non for our system if we set it to 70 deg and it's on Cool it will usually turn off and the temperature is 69 deg. The Nest will run just our fan a short while before turning off to get all that cool air out of the air vents. This could make the temperature even go down more than an extra degree but usually, it's just a temperature swing of 1 degree. Nest will run as few times as possible for slightly longer lengths so your system doesn't wear down as fast.
hi. so right now I have vivint thermostat, would it be easy to replace it with a Nest?
3RD Gen doesn't just come with metal ring outer. Can get it in various colours too, white black bronze etc
I have 3 separate AC in my home. Will I be able to install 3 Nests and use the app to control all 3 AC units?
Yes you will
How do you charge them? Or do they get charge trough the wires in the wall?
+Sam F they charge from the wires in the wall. You can check the charge level of the battery in the app or on the thermostat to make sure it has enough juice.
Exactly what I needed to know! Good stuff :)
they are installing the nest e here next week whether we want it or not i want to just use it manually not wifi and i only want it to be 75 degrees at all times not more than 1 degree above or below that at any time 24/365 can i get it to do that and how would i get it to do that if i can? thanks
+justjohnny05 yes you can have it be 75 degrees all the time. Just turn the Mode to Heat - Cool and set the temperature to 75 degrees. I would recommend to just choose Cool mode if it's hot outside during the day but at night your house cools down so the heat doesn't come on to keep it at 75.
How accurate are they and what is the temperature spread? If I have it set to 74 on air conditioning, will the lowest spread be like 74.5 and the air will go on? Or is it like a whole degree before it goes on or off? Great review. 👍🏻
The Nest thermostats seem pretty accurate when I've used them! The temperature swing is between 1 and 2 degrees.
@@SmartHomeSolver Thank you.
How well do you think the nest will work in a California split home?
I have radiant heat, 4 zones, 1 nest 3rd gen, and 3 dumb thermostats. I don't want to shell out for 3 more 3rd gens. Do you know if the e gets along well with the third gen in the same setup?
+jaklumpp thanks for the comment. You can't change the temperature of all the thermostats at the same time but it gets along well with the 3rd Gen fine since they are in the same app. And if you are away from your house then all the thermostats can switch to away mode which is key.
Prefer the E for how it better melts into the background, got the Tado though in the end. Even more minimalist than the E.
Great review, thanks. Are you aware of the "No C-wire" issues many are having? I was just about to order the E but I'm concerned I may have the cycling issue on my older HVAC system that does not have a C-wire. Nest compatability says it'll work for the wires that I currently have but the said that for many who have the cycling issue die to no c-wire. Any thoughts regarding that?
I hope I read your question correctly. The nest 3rd gen wiring bracket comes with aux slot. I would recommend taking of old thermostats and taking pic to identify wires. If have any wires you not sure about use aux. The nest will check wires also to confirm correct wiring.
@@jarotblackmon I have 4 wires and I know what each one is for. However, I've seen online many people have issues running a nest without the C wire. The C wire provides constant power to the nest battery. Without the C wire the nest battery is only charges when the HVAC is running. Which could lead to the cycling on/off issue.
I just ordered the Nest E anyway. It's super easy to add the C wire. In fact, there are kits to add a C wire to the HVAC for about $15.
Ok I understand now, sorry I misinterpreted. I heard the nest e are good. Just dont like frosted glass.
@@jarotblackmon No worries. I was concerned too until I saw my friends E installed. For my situation, that frosted muted look on my wall is what I want. Now if the make a while body like the E with the gen3 clear display I'm sold LoL.
How can I leave it on auto with the eco ? I do want it to be on , but to turn off on his own
Hey Solver,
Were releasing a new smart thermostat, interested in reviewing it?
If you have three thermostats for different zones in your house can you use these? I'm assuming you would need three nest devices, but then can you label them to know which one is which in your app?
Hi +Andrew Bognanno. Yes you can give each device a name in the app so it will be really easy to tell them apart. And that's where the Nest E is helpful in that you can have all your thermostats managed in the Nest app for a cheaper price.
I currently have two separate thermostats for heating and cooling, located in different parts of my house . Will the nest system and App allow having two thermostats?
I have one downstairs for heat and one upstairs for heat & cooling and they work fine. They don't talk to each other and act independently.
Great video. EXACTLY what I was looking for!
can you control your dehumidifier with either of these as well?
Spencer Jezegou
Nope. If you want a real thermostat, get a Honeywell VisionPro.
Commercial HVAC tech.
My current thermostats are 12v power supplied ... can I convert to the Neat E ?
Can you lock 🔒 for no one can change the temperature?
Why in the world would they frost... the lens on the E to make it harder to see? I am thinking of getting a 3rd genration for my parents, just so they could see it and read it easier.