that was me by the way and bought the first stumpjumper sold retail in the world I donated it to to hall of fame museum in crested butte where I lived for the last 39 years
My great uncles, Orville and Wilbur Wright were bike manufacturer/mechanics/innovators before they invented the plane. They invented the reverse thread crank and pedals so that the left pedal wouldn't loosen and fall off during riding.
British inventor William Kemp Starley had solved a similar problem years before when the right-hand cups that housed the crank or "bottom" bearing on early bicycles kept coming loose. He simply reversed the thread direction on the right cup so the pedaling action kept it tight.
i lived in mill valley in 1950 for a year or two and then moved out to "Marinwood" , a new housing tract near Novato. We rode our steel framed schwinn beasts everywhere including the fire trails , ranch roads or anyplace that a wheel could go . One of the most insane things we did was take big cardboard boxes from the construction sites , fold up the front of the box into the shape of a toboggan and ride down the steep slopes on the waxy dry grass . sometimes we would get airborne . as to riding our bikes " off road " , little did we know that one day that would become a " thing " 😂
In the beginning there was nothing *but* gravel biking. Cycling literally paved the way for cars to become a thing. But I don't think people, especially kids, ever stopped taking their bikes on dirt roads and single track. What these guys accomplished was to draw the *industry's* attention back to the roots of cycling.
Thanks for sharing this wonderful vid!! btw I own a Marin "Indian Firetrail" mountain bike! Bought it brand new 1994 from a longhaired bikefreak he owned a little bikeshop in Germany! All my friends advised me not to buy the expensive US-Bike, but I was so fascinated by the polished, shiny aluminum frame, the fantastic solid welding seams, from the light weight that i bought it and never ever regretted it. I ride this bike with no problems to this day and I love it. Thank you Marin for building this fantastic solid bike!👍🏻😊
I’ve already watched one video about this museum previously, but I’ve watched this one also! What a wonderful place to visit!😎👍🏻 Beautiful collection!😊💙💛
Wow the memories, I was obsessed as a teen with the Trek Y frame, later the Giant ATX Team DH. The North Shore ladder tracks I first saw in Kranked 2. I HAVE to go there!
Hermoso lugar. Me encantaría visitara lo en mi próximo viajé a California. Práctico mountain bike desde 1990 en el norte de Argentina. Las noticias que tenía eran por la revista “mountain bike action” y la revista española “bike”. Este video me trae magníficos recuerdos. Saludos
Well done! Thank you so much for sharing! My unrequited love: A Ritchey Commando. Lusted after this bike since falling in love with it in 1986. I even worked at a Ritchey dealer at the time and COULD have employee purchased one. But alas, I was a broke college student and couldn't afford it. One day! The local East Bay team was planning a trip there this weekend when CORONOAVIRUS changed our plans! Oh well, this suffices as a good alternative until we can get the crew out there when this craziness settles down.
And then there's the irony: The birthplace of the mountain bike is about as anti-mountain bike as you can get. At least as far as trail access is concerned. Single Track = JAIL! Unfortunately, the democratic process STILL has not caught up to trail access for mountain bikers, a valid and large user group wanting to access public lands. In the 80's, "erosion" was used as an excuse to place blanket prohibitions on single track throughout the land. Park managers, faced with this new "threat," applied the typical knee-jerk reaction, unsure how to handle the new sport. Cyclists were banished to wide-open, hot, dusty, rut-strewn, and uninspiring fire roads, if they were allowed at all. The intimate, beautiful footpaths were set aside for exclusive use of hikers and equestrians.* Problem is, this over-reaction is still in place today. The erosion argument was quickly debunked. It's simply used as a hyperbolic excuse to jade non-cyclists into supporting bike bans. Others argue conflicts exist. They sure do. But conflicts are the result of almost seven million people recreating in limited public open space. But that can be dealt with. And mountain bikers have quickly learned that they need to be responsible stewards of the land. And they are. Scofflaws? Sure are. Just like scofflaw drivers. But driving isn't getting banned any time soon, I've noticed. Why, if conflict is the problem, haven't our public parks set aside some of the most desirable trails for cyclists' exclusive use like they have for hikers? If you REALLY think the two groups cannot co-exist, then separate them and give 'em each a place to recreate. A democracy would seem to promote this. Equal access for everyone. But nope, the bias still continues. Our state parks, traditionally very hostile to mountain bikes, have made some concessions. China Camp is a shining example. But it's the rare exception. I visit state parks at Lake Tahoe that strictly prohibit "all vehicles from dirt." I cannot mountain bike the nice trails there, yet yahoos with 400hp V8 motor boats with blaring stereo systems can pull right up to the beach, leaking fuel and exhaust into the air and water. Breathing fuel vapors while hiking the trails that bicycles are strictly prohibited from using. This is the type of thing that encourages mountain bikers to ride EVERYTHING, regardless of the laws. When the law is patently biased, civil disobedience is the sensible next step. *Horses do about a hundred times the damage a cyclist does to trails, yet they're still welcome in our parks.
I saw one of the early Richies, when one was brought to NYC. I didn't have a lot of money back then, but at about 17, bought a Schwinn, I daresay Mtn. bike, from a nephew of a bike mechanic friend. Bought it for a fair price, and it was virtually unused. And Oh yeah, it was heavy as shit, with solid steel axles. a one piece hub and pedal crank assembly, and a steel frame that I swear was indestructible! I used to bike messenger on it, and one time, before I knew better, I tried to pass a cab on the passenger side, that was letting out a passenger on East 42nd. I almost made it past, but the door opened on my rear wheel, axle + hub shattering the hub, and breaking the steel axle! ( The rims, hubs. brake handles and brakes themselves, were actually a fairly light aluminum. But the bike was heavy steel and of course fine in this exchange (so was I). This was NYC, there was no mtn. bike racing for me, which I wasn't ready to do anyway, and it probably didn't even exist yet, at least not on the east coast!. Anyway. later I would do some road racing. But I'll never forget that indestructible Schwin Mountain bike!
Been into mountain bikes since I was a kid , 1st proper bike 1991 gt tequesta which I loved at the time had a few over the years up2 a marin nail trail 16 & stumpjumper carbon pro , I've still got a absolutely showroom condition 19in marin eldridge grade 1992 black & zolatone with full deore dx and I mean full dx hung on my wall lol ........it would be criminal to ride it and wouldn't let it go either lol
mark smith Book an hour of solid time to really soak it all in.. it’s a small building but packed with history and bikes... do you live near the area? 👍👍
@@Mobilecyclist I live in the UK if I lived near there I would go once a year. I want do a trip to America some time. See s good few sites and this is another one of them on my to do list
Been riding mtb since 88, no suspension, barely any brakes and unless you had them adjusted perfectly, they would screech like fingers on a chalkboard. Would break a rear axle, once or twice a year. Bikes are so good now, I just have old 97 Cannondale with a X-fusion Enix fork 120mm, it feels like cheating, I can only amagine what a full suspension would be like.
Notice how he dodged the question about what influence/input that Tom Ritchey had in the development of the Mountain Bike (I.e. a bike that can go uphill and downhill with riders pounding on the bike efficiently without breaking) and only said that Tom had two of his bikes in the HOF. So, Tom's contribution is he and Charlie Kelly donating their personal bike?
Hey Greg, thanks for the comments. Like anything else that was “invented”, it’s never the sole creation on one Individual. All I know is Joe did his best to give an accurate story as possible and remarked several times that he wanted to make sure the credit was sprwrad across multiple folks, from Charlie, Tom, Mike Sinyard, Gary Fisher, etc.
I'm also in that Showtime video filmed by Dana Atchley crested butte to aspen it can be found in you tube I'm the guy that says we are going to disco up the mountain hahaha
5:23 yo dog your saddle is way of, go home scrub. i bow my head to ye olde fathers of littest bicycling, this is about as cool as cool could ever be(imo)
yes it was in the museum in cb it probably still is the hall of fame was my idea Steve Cook who is in the hall of fame and did take my idea an ran with it poo poo ed it at the time when he wanted to sell me a ritchey I told him some day there would be a hall of fame and specialized would give me new bike if donated the first one which this all came to pass I was also good friends with Mike Rust back in the day I also produced the ABC special on Murdoch one of the bike shop dealers at the time
that was me by the way and bought the first stumpjumper sold retail in the world I donated it to to hall of fame museum in crested butte where I lived for the last 39 years
+Rene Defourneaux That's amazing that you bought that first retail Stumpjumper!
My great uncles, Orville and Wilbur Wright were bike manufacturer/mechanics/innovators before they invented the plane. They invented the reverse thread crank and pedals so that the left pedal wouldn't loosen and fall off during riding.
OMG your a walking piece of history, FULLEST RESPECT .
British inventor William Kemp Starley had solved a similar problem years before when the right-hand cups that housed the crank or "bottom" bearing on early bicycles kept coming loose. He simply reversed the thread direction on the right cup so the pedaling action kept it tight.
I'm a road bike dude but damn that's a lot of history in that building. These guys literally redesigned the wheel and we all owe them our respect.
wahwah1013 Thanks brother..! I'm glad you enjoyed the episode! Please share it with friends who you think would appreciate it. 👍
wahwah1013 ur absolutely right mate
very good description of mountain bike history thanks to joe breeze
I got my first mt bike in 1990, Marin Mt bike $400. Loved it!
i lived in mill valley in 1950 for a year or two and then moved out to "Marinwood" , a new housing tract near Novato. We rode our steel framed schwinn beasts everywhere including the fire trails , ranch roads or anyplace that a wheel could go . One of the most insane things we did was take big cardboard boxes from the construction sites , fold up the front of the box into the shape of a toboggan and ride down the steep slopes on the waxy dry grass . sometimes we would get airborne . as to riding our bikes " off road " , little did we know that one day that would become a " thing " 😂
In the beginning there was nothing *but* gravel biking. Cycling literally paved the way for cars to become a thing. But I don't think people, especially kids, ever stopped taking their bikes on dirt roads and single track. What these guys accomplished was to draw the *industry's* attention back to the roots of cycling.
Thanks for sharing this wonderful vid!!
btw I own a Marin "Indian Firetrail" mountain bike! Bought it brand new 1994 from a longhaired bikefreak he owned a little bikeshop in Germany! All my friends advised me not to buy the expensive US-Bike, but I was so fascinated by the polished, shiny aluminum frame, the fantastic solid welding seams, from the light weight that i bought it and never ever regretted it. I ride this bike with no problems to this day and I love it. Thank you Marin for building this fantastic solid bike!👍🏻😊
I’ve already watched one video about this museum previously, but I’ve watched this one also! What a wonderful place to visit!😎👍🏻 Beautiful collection!😊💙💛
Glad you enjoyed the tour… Joe Breeze is a living legend!
Excellent job. Clean, moral, child friendly. That’s the way to get sedentary screen-enslaved youngsters enthused about the health building outdoors.
Wow the memories, I was obsessed as a teen with the Trek Y frame, later the Giant ATX Team DH. The North Shore ladder tracks I first saw in Kranked 2. I HAVE to go there!
Hermoso lugar.
Me encantaría visitara lo en mi próximo viajé a California.
Práctico mountain bike desde 1990 en el norte de Argentina.
Las noticias que tenía eran por la revista “mountain bike action” y la revista española “bike”.
Este video me trae magníficos recuerdos.
Saludos
I enjoyed this video thks for the history
Thanks BJ..!
Well done! Thank you so much for sharing! My unrequited love:
A Ritchey Commando.
Lusted after this bike since falling in love with it in 1986. I even worked at a Ritchey dealer at the time and COULD have employee purchased one. But alas, I was a broke college student and couldn't afford it. One day!
The local East Bay team was planning a trip there this weekend when CORONOAVIRUS changed our plans! Oh well, this suffices as a good alternative until we can get the crew out there when this craziness settles down.
And then there's the irony:
The birthplace of the mountain bike is about as anti-mountain bike as you can get. At least as far as trail access is concerned. Single Track = JAIL!
Unfortunately, the democratic process STILL has not caught up to trail access for mountain bikers, a valid and large user group wanting to access public lands.
In the 80's, "erosion" was used as an excuse to place blanket prohibitions on single track throughout the land. Park managers, faced with this new "threat," applied the typical knee-jerk reaction, unsure how to handle the new sport. Cyclists were banished to wide-open, hot, dusty, rut-strewn, and uninspiring fire roads, if they were allowed at all. The intimate, beautiful footpaths were set aside for exclusive use of hikers and equestrians.*
Problem is, this over-reaction is still in place today. The erosion argument was quickly debunked. It's simply used as a hyperbolic excuse to jade non-cyclists into supporting bike bans.
Others argue conflicts exist. They sure do. But conflicts are the result of almost seven million people recreating in limited public open space. But that can be dealt with. And mountain bikers have quickly learned that they need to be responsible stewards of the land. And they are. Scofflaws? Sure are. Just like scofflaw drivers. But driving isn't getting banned any time soon, I've noticed.
Why, if conflict is the problem, haven't our public parks set aside some of the most desirable trails for cyclists' exclusive use like they have for hikers? If you REALLY think the two groups cannot co-exist, then separate them and give 'em each a place to recreate. A democracy would seem to promote this. Equal access for everyone. But nope, the bias still continues.
Our state parks, traditionally very hostile to mountain bikes, have made some concessions. China Camp is a shining example. But it's the rare exception. I visit state parks at Lake Tahoe that strictly prohibit "all vehicles from dirt." I cannot mountain bike the nice trails there, yet yahoos with 400hp V8 motor boats with blaring stereo systems can pull right up to the beach, leaking fuel and exhaust into the air and water. Breathing fuel vapors while hiking the trails that bicycles are strictly prohibited from using.
This is the type of thing that encourages mountain bikers to ride EVERYTHING, regardless of the laws. When the law is patently biased, civil disobedience is the sensible next step.
*Horses do about a hundred times the damage a cyclist does to trails, yet they're still welcome in our parks.
Thank You for the story..interesting perspective.
Great video M.C.......thanks...!!!
Cheers...!!!
+GunzRloaded Thank You..!!
Missed opportunity to call the museum _hall of frame._
I'll see myself out.
that funky monster at the beginning, :54 screams Ibis Mojo at me. I want it
I saw one of the early Richies, when one was brought to NYC. I didn't have a lot of money back then, but at about 17, bought a Schwinn, I daresay Mtn. bike, from a nephew of a bike mechanic friend. Bought it for a fair price, and it was virtually unused.
And Oh yeah, it was heavy as shit, with solid steel axles. a one piece hub and pedal crank assembly, and a steel frame that I swear was indestructible! I used to bike messenger on it, and one time, before I knew better, I tried to pass a cab on the passenger side, that was letting out a passenger on East 42nd. I almost made it past, but the door opened on my rear wheel, axle + hub shattering the hub, and breaking the steel axle! ( The rims, hubs. brake handles and brakes themselves, were actually a fairly light aluminum. But the bike was heavy steel and of course fine in this exchange (so was I).
This was NYC, there was no mtn. bike racing for me, which I wasn't ready to do anyway, and it probably didn't even exist yet, at least not on the east coast!. Anyway. later I would do some road racing. But I'll never forget that indestructible Schwin Mountain bike!
Fascinating 👍👍
Been into mountain bikes since I was a kid , 1st proper bike 1991 gt tequesta which I loved at the time had a few over the years up2 a marin nail trail 16 & stumpjumper carbon pro , I've still got a absolutely showroom condition 19in marin eldridge grade 1992 black & zolatone with full deore dx and I mean full dx hung on my wall lol ........it would be criminal to ride it and wouldn't let it go either lol
You should checkout the museum if you're ever in that neck of the woods! Where are you from?
Great! Thank you for this amazing video!
7:36 ~ cannondales epic dual Bbracket downhill racer, epic RARE !.
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beautiful museum i hope i can visit one day.
It is a super interesting place...!
Cool Episode!
+gernst83 Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! It's a pretty cool place and a must stop destination for cyclists passing through SF / Marin.
WOW I got a kestrel like 9:06 mine is early 1991
Nice
I live in Scotland, these guys fuckin ruled and inspired me to ride. Pilgrimage required.🤟
how cool...My Father was from Glasgow! He emigrated to the US in 1957 at the age of 17!
You should go for sure.. many times Joe Breeze himself is at the museum and loves to talk all things mountain biking!
I love mountain biking and only live 20 minutes away but for some reason I haven’t made the effort to check this place out
It's really pretty awesome, especially considering Joe Breeze himself works there!
Get there m8
I’ve gotta visit that place someday
mark smith Book an hour of solid time to really soak it all in.. it’s a small building but packed with history and bikes... do you live near the area? 👍👍
@@Mobilecyclist I live in the UK if I lived near there I would go once a year. I want do a trip to America some time. See s good few sites and this is another one of them on my to do list
mark smith ah..! Hopefully you can make a trip over here and hit some of your favorite destinations .. great to hear from Mark! 👍
Been riding mtb since 88, no suspension, barely any brakes and unless you had them adjusted perfectly, they would screech like fingers on a chalkboard. Would break a rear axle, once or twice a year. Bikes are so good now, I just have old 97 Cannondale with a X-fusion Enix fork 120mm, it feels like cheating, I can only amagine what a full suspension would be like.
Rock on
Thank You..!
yesss 🤘😷
nice museum
Fascinating 🐮
And you get a classic mountain bike just for stopping by. LOL
Awesome video, I want to go!
Cool !!!
Thank You..!
Rock on.........
Thanks Kevin..! Have you been to the Marin Museum of Bicycling?
3:33 - Hans Reys' ti GT... that bike was in 'Monkey see, monkey do'
Thumbnail bike with a suron motor all tuned ,what a tractor 🚜 she'd bowl anyone over 😳 😀
Wanted a Amp research full susp bike but cost like $1200
SierraandChelsea Have you beeen to the Marin Museum ? It’s fantastic
Epic
thanks
what about the guy that came up with the idea of the hall of fame in the first place?
+Rene Defourneaux Thank You sharing this Rene.
Cool
Notice how he dodged the question about what influence/input that Tom Ritchey had in the development of the Mountain Bike (I.e. a bike that can go uphill and downhill with riders pounding on the bike efficiently without breaking) and only said that Tom had two of his bikes in the HOF. So, Tom's contribution is he and Charlie Kelly donating their personal bike?
Hey Greg, thanks for the comments. Like anything else that was “invented”, it’s never the sole creation on one Individual. All I know is Joe did his best to give an accurate story as possible and remarked several times that he wanted to make sure the credit was sprwrad across multiple folks, from Charlie, Tom, Mike Sinyard, Gary Fisher, etc.
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I'm also in that Showtime video filmed by Dana Atchley crested butte to aspen it can be found in you tube I'm the guy that says we are going to disco up the mountain hahaha
5:23 yo dog your saddle is way of, go home scrub.
i bow my head to ye olde fathers of littest bicycling, this is about as cool as cool could ever be(imo)
I'm not sure I'm following you Tim
Back then when it was quality and not quantity from china.
👀👃👀👃👂👌
2:58 modern hipsters would sell their soul for one of those lol
yes it was in the museum in cb it probably still is the hall of fame was my idea Steve Cook who is in the hall of fame and did take my idea an ran with it poo poo ed it at the time when he wanted to sell me a ritchey I told him some day there would be a hall of fame and specialized would give me new bike if donated the first one which this all came to pass I was also good friends with Mike Rust back in the day I also produced the ABC special on Murdoch one of the bike shop dealers at the time
RUDGE 🇬🇧