Exploring the North London Line Route from Stratford-North Woolwich

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  • Hugh takes a look at the route that Overground's (Then Silverlink) North London Line used to take until 2006. Some parts have been repurposed some haven't.
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  • @melvynbuckton6881
    @melvynbuckton6881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Used that line several times in silverlink days. Was British rail before silverlink.Very impressed with your knowledge. Every time you said I believe you were in fact right. Excellent planning and presentation 10 out of 10. I adored the silverlink livery. Silverlink despite what tfl etc says was a good rail company.

  • @stevetaylor4122
    @stevetaylor4122 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video .
    North Woolwich was indeed a museum , and a jolly good one too .

  • @hi-viz
    @hi-viz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm just happy to see the building at North Woolwich is being used for something again

    • @w00df0rd
      @w00df0rd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      African church? I walked in the dreleict station building in 2014 thinking it was empty but there were definitely squatters/student renters in there. They'd made postboxes and were having mail sent there; had turned the back of the station into a garden/dumping space.
      When I walked past in lockdown, I saw the inside had lots of expensive recording equipment. Thought the station had been turned into band rehearsal space but maybe it was the church's.

  • @user-xh3lz9xt4l
    @user-xh3lz9xt4l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It was operated by DMUs in the early 70s before being "upgraded" to 3rd rail to run through to Richmond

    • @wetcardie66
      @wetcardie66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fond memories ofcatching a cravens DMU from highbury and islington station to north woolwich

    • @iainmaturin8460
      @iainmaturin8460 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was third rail in the early 70's. Used to travel from Richmond to Broad Street

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In the eighties I used to get a bus to Woolwich from Grove Park, walk down the tunnel or the ferry then hop on a train from North Woolwich to Silvertown and go to work at the construction site of KGV Docks being turned into STOLPORT as it was called then. I often went over to the old steam thing on occasion to mess about with spanners and hammers.

  • @aviewfromtheinterior
    @aviewfromtheinterior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff. I used to travel The North London line between Dalston Kingsland and Silvertown, back in the late 90s when I lived on Dalston Lane and worked at City Airport. Those knackered old Silverlink trains still stick in my mind!

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Beckton was always famous for its gigantic gas works, which over the years became quite profitable shooting locations for series like Sweeney and the Professionals and even a John Wayne film called Brannigan which in its way reinforced John Waynes abject despite for anything British having to wait days on end for a break in the rain to do scenes, up to that point he merely hated the British but when he left he was almost beswick in his utter disgust of ol' blighty and its denizens. One thing that complicated the police's job in south and east London was the river was a perfect pinch point easily patrolled to intervene between Millwall and West Ham who liked to meet up in places like Blackheath or Stratford for a "straightener" and they would be watching the foot tunnels, the ferry, bus drivers would radio in if a bunch of claret and blue toting burly lads had jumped on their bus that connected south and east, now its just a train ride and a police force too thinly stretched out to be effective.

  • @JP_TaVeryMuch
    @JP_TaVeryMuch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some effort put into making this video. Hop on, hop off one train company, then another, station after station all edited together swimmingly, bravo.
    Your concise information was delivered entertainingly and without sugaring the pill and leaving your audience in a soporific sTATE.
    LYLE defo be waiting for the next one. Thanks.

  • @kevjq2435
    @kevjq2435 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video brings back memories of what was a bit of ghost line 30 years ago .thank you

  • @LyonMaid
    @LyonMaid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The plot beside the old Woolwich station (where Crossrail notice is) has been sold to developers foe flats so you done well to get a look through the fence as that will disappear.

  • @LeeSmith-cf1vo
    @LeeSmith-cf1vo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I believe the line was singled due to some issues in the connaught tunnel. Issues that they had to solve for the Elizabeth line to enable redoubling.

  • @user-xh3lz9xt4l
    @user-xh3lz9xt4l 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I used the line to go to speedway at Rye House on a Sunday afternoon. Used to travel from Upminster to West Ham, then on NLL towards Rye House. On the way home used to get off at Rye House to visit my grandmother.

    • @user-xh3lz9xt4l
      @user-xh3lz9xt4l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That should say Custom House not Rye House but as an addendum muscles would be in the Spainish Steps or the Mog or New Mog always ready for a beer or two............

  • @rodericfindlay4147
    @rodericfindlay4147 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Before it was the North London Line, it was an Eastern Region line, before that an LNER line and before that a Great Eastern Railway line. There was a service from North Woolwich to Palace Gates via Stratford Low Level. I travelled on a quint-art set hauled by an N7 0-6-2T

  • @Eddie36144
    @Eddie36144 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enjoyed the video, well researched, used the line to Silvertown in the late 1980's.

  • @danield9671
    @danield9671 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really enjoyed this! I managed to ride the NLL to North Woolwich before it was closed. It had become very decrepit just before closure. Real shame the railway museum closed as well.

  • @philsam1232
    @philsam1232 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do remember walking around the other side of the foot tunnel near a swimming pool site, There was a walking sign still saying North Woolwich was nearby.

  • @jamestoyn9755
    @jamestoyn9755 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this video of Exploring the old North London Line Route is really good going to the places where the old north london line went to. i used to use the line alot when it was around i only did the section from the lower level of stratford now used by the Docklands light railway towards Richmond and back again. i also remember channel sea junction that was so squeaky. i have a drivers eye view dvd of the old north london line route

  • @michellebell5092
    @michellebell5092 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video (as always ttflt) but it nicely cleared up a few queries i had about that part of the North London Line. I did travel on the old NLR to N Woolwich . It was indeed a museum at one time . Cheers

  • @chrismccartney8668
    @chrismccartney8668 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I travelled a few times from Low level remember everything being very dilapidated and run down.
    Like many years ago used the OLD Leabridge Station and got off one day to find platform full of weeds and people sleeping on the steps to the road, it closed very soon afterwards but now has recently reopened..

  • @rikyoung
    @rikyoung หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to get this all the way from North Woolwich to Richmond back in the early 90s. Took ages, service was poor (3 tph?) and rolling stock was very tired towards the end. North Woolwich used to have trains that went to Southend I think? That was before my time and when that line closed the old station became the museum.

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 313's ended up used by Southern on the South Coast for many years, running between Brighton and Seaford, Portsmouth and occasionally Eastbourne or Hastings for many years, only withdrawn and scrapped about a year ago. They outlived the ones on the Moorgate route by a few years.

    • @thetflthree
      @thetflthree  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Indeed they did, something Daniel doesn’t shut up about as he grew kinda fond of the southern ones in their last few months. -Hugh

  • @melvynbuckton6881
    @melvynbuckton6881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Perhaps I should point out I live in Watford which had a couple of silverlink lines.

    • @johnrafferty8087
      @johnrafferty8087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Had They DC Silverlink County and the Abbey Flyer 🎉

    • @melvynbuckton6881
      @melvynbuckton6881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think they had the overhead semi fast lines as well

    • @johnrafferty8087
      @johnrafferty8087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@melvynbuckton6881yep they called it Silverlink Country

  • @Thornaby37
    @Thornaby37 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent video and very well researched 👍
    There were also a couple of freight branches that ran parallel with this part of the North London Line into the 1980s, one of which ran alongside the North London Line between Stratford and Canning Town, leading to a steel terminal at Thames Wharf, and which also served a chemical works just north of West Ham station
    Another freight branch ran alongside the North London Line between Custom House and Silvertown (leading to a scrapyard), and this may be the reason why the North London Line was single track beyond Silvertown. The track leading to the scrapyard was formerly part of the Silvertown tramway

  • @vicsams4431
    @vicsams4431 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear, makes me feel old ! I remember the Class 105 Cravens 2 car DMU from either Camden Road to North Woolwich, or even earlier, from Tottenham Hale to North Woolwich. Long before electrification. Then I used the 2EPB Class 416 EMU (and even the Class 501 EMU from Broad Street). I have cabridden Class 313s to North Woolwich on official duty.
    Interestingly, Custom House to North Woolwich was DOUBLE track, before it was singled. The former Up Line was disused, but the old tunnel, named Silvertown Tunnel was renamed by Crossrail / Elizabeth Line to Connaught Tunnel. Silvertown Tunnel was two single bore tunnels, and these leaked, requiring them to be pumped (much like the Severn Tunnel and the Channel Tunnel) and Silvertown Tunnel was also fitted with a Flood Warning Indicator, and three emergency telephones (one at each portal and one at the middle point). Also LNER A3 4472 / BR 60103 Flying Scotsman also visited North Woolwich when the small railway museum was opened there, but thoughts turned to removing her chimney as there was less than one inch clearance with the tunnel roof. When Custom House to North Woolwich was singled (at electrification circa 1986 ?) the signalling became One Train Working Without Train Staff, and the clearance of the Down Section Signal at Custom House authorised the train movement from Custom House to North Woolwich and back, with the track circuit merely showing the line was occupied but not where the train was, merely east of Custom House. Silvertown also had extensive ridings for the Tate & Lyle sugar factory. In earlier days, even before me, there was also an overground tramway that bypassed Silvertown Tunnel. Sections were owned by the Port of London Authority at one stage too.

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really enjoy this video, also Stratford High Street was originally a railway station but closed in 1957

  • @BusesFromStHelier
    @BusesFromStHelier 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well said Hugh! Nice seeing the old north woolwich

  • @roo16810
    @roo16810 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really well researched and presented video. Found it very interesting!

  • @Welshy1717
    @Welshy1717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh he gone Solo on this adventure

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ever want a cracking viewpoint of a bit of the line the approach to Connaught Tunnels, watch Guy Ritchies Rocknrolla where the loony Russian chases all along the line there...

  • @johnrafferty8087
    @johnrafferty8087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Worked on and off for many a year onnrhe NLL. Lived Silvertown and North Woolwich stations. Nit just because of the museum at North Woolwich. But it did help

  • @cujimmy1366
    @cujimmy1366 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the privilege of riding on a steam train at North Woolwich back in the 80s number of times.

    • @iainmaturin8460
      @iainmaturin8460 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you sure about that!. Steam finished lingerie before the 80's

  • @networkerfan
    @networkerfan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    if the trains still went to north Woolwich and used the low level platforms then Stratford high level to low level would be a pointless

  • @ricktownend9144
    @ricktownend9144 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks - great video; lots of interesting detail. But who'd have believed it eh? you put on lots more trains, and the line becomes massively popular. I wonder why no one thought of it before the DLR ... I mean, the Underground has had a successful model going for over a hundred years - frequent trains, well-signed interchanges - was no one at British Raill looking at that? At least it is happening now. Just need it to happen on more of the mainline rail network: why do people in Chessington and Stoneleigh have a train only every half-hour while if you live in Ickenham it's every six minutes?

    • @melvynbuckton6881
      @melvynbuckton6881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Putting on extra DLR trams is much much easier than main line trains and way cheaper. You can't blame British rail.

  • @rm36s
    @rm36s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing vid bro

  • @CLechleitner42
    @CLechleitner42 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant video, Thanks!

  • @ianmcclavin
    @ianmcclavin 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video!!

  • @teecefamilykent
    @teecefamilykent 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant video!
    Will you be doing a video on the old line out of Broad Street?

  • @tescotrain
    @tescotrain 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually went in to the platform area. I'm sure the crossrail sign is outdated now cause the Elizabeth line is finished

  • @DonaldTrumpIsGreat
    @DonaldTrumpIsGreat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good Video 👍

  • @nilswestermann2598
    @nilswestermann2598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice video good work

  • @chrismccartney8668
    @chrismccartney8668 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about Video on Low Hall Farm Curve which was very useful but pulled up Waltham Forest has been pushing for it to be reinstated.

  • @johnchurch4705
    @johnchurch4705 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video 125 filmed a cab view of the line from Richmond to Woolwich just before it shut.

  • @robbiemorrison7085
    @robbiemorrison7085 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t know if it’s still there, but London City Airport station was the only station on the DLR network to have a ticket office

  • @watchmakersp9935
    @watchmakersp9935 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks to you for the great video. Not been on those lines but may try it out.

  • @montystelevision3238
    @montystelevision3238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember it ending at North Woolwich. Was last time I used the North London Line. What’s become of Primrose Hill?

    • @iainmaturin8460
      @iainmaturin8460 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Station is still there but abonded