No better than a driver. Accidents happen. They're not perfect. Once they start becoming a problem, we'll know. Accidents from Waymo don't happen very often.
@@DesertRunner602I’ve never crashed in 22 years of driving. Many others can say the same. I will never step foot in one of these things. Wait until they start hacking into these things.
probably the heat from the sun or anything sending out different types of wave signals? GPS updates sometimes have errors, dose it use gps ? people have crashed before from gps errors.
If one autonomous car can effectively be used for three times as many miles of travel at minimal cost, because no driver, what do you think happens to real cost per mile? Now, Waymo robo taxis cost a lot more to get on the road, so the math does not really work for Waymo, but a Tesla robo taxi will be able to get you where you want to go for the same or less than owning your own car, and it will be a lot more convenient.
Driver less cars should not be allowed on the road, maybe in 30 - 50 years AI will have advanced to that point, but that is not NOW !!! For example a driver less car do not understand the hand signals of police manually directing traffic, that alone is reason enough to ban them from the roads.
No, they will never be ready. AI is a scam and more companies are flatlining showing that AI was just a craze. Most the time it was just someone behind a curtain pulling levers. No magic here, just an OZ.
@kenmorgan316 well, not really. You'd have to compare incidents with its comparable population. Millions of daily drivers vs like a dozen self driving cars. Seems like the numbers would not favor the driverless cars. You can't compare aggregate numbers.
@@LisaDavidson-fc8bd I was referring to a company that recently, or last year, did get kicked out. I got it from a CNBC video. I think it was Cruise Driverless.
Interesting how it hit that pole squarely as the video shows. It didn't clip it, it didn't hit it with the corner of the car, but perfectly centered. Almost like it was intentional, as though it wanted to die.
It is scary to think it ran straight into that stationary pole, it is a miracle it has not killed any pedestrians yet, and those are not even stationary (they move...) ...
I'm just curious how they got approved to be driverless. To me it makes absolutely no sense. Even Tesla autopilot says there must be a driver attentive just in case something goes wrong. The fact that anyone would order a waymo ride to me is absurd
In some cases yes. In others no. And the difference was humans controlled horse buggys as they do cars. Removing them from the equation is is a paradigm shift and that doesn't necessarily mean for the better.
Yep. And if you look at the early years of the automobile (just early years, not present), there were way more automobile accidents than horse and carriage accidents. Statistically, it was safer to stay with horse and carriage. Now look at driverless cars, specifically Waymo. Sure, they have the occasional accident or do something really stupid, but they are still statistically safer than human drivers. If our society were suddenly back in the horse and buggy days, there is no way we'd advance to the automobile with our current mindset.
@@petercollingwood522The thing though AI is taught to be the best and to be better than humans effectively 99% of the time. In the future self-driving cars would be way better than human driving and less accidents would occur.
The professor nees to stop making excuses. Bad technology. If the waymo didnt detect the pole, it probably wont detect me on my motorcycle. Similar to Tesla. Get these vehicles off the road until tested further.
It’s not that it didn’t detected the pole, it hit an pothole, made it swerve into the pole FMU. Waymo is still dealing with physics car, if something knocks it into direction, it is not going to stop immediately.
@@T_Time_ I have no idea why it hit the pole? But I do know the Waymo that was sent to pick up the passengers it was supposed to pick up, got stuck in the same alley. NTSA are investigating Waymo for numerous road violations and accidents, Waymo is far from perfect.
Right. I think many people expect driverless cars to be perfect before they will trust them, which is unrealistic and never going to happen. We just need them to be better than humans, which arguably, they already are. Now, if you look at this one incident, you might think humans are way better since most of us wouldn't plow into a pole in broad daylight. If you look at the complete picture though, driverless cars have fewer accidents than humans.
So many sensors, radar, cameras, LiDAR, AND this alley is mapped to the centimeter, so this is a software programming issue, and obviously a serious one. Also, too many kinds of sensors, Tesla discovered that more meant more confusion and more errors, which is why they eliminated their radar.
That's also part of the reason why Tesla is only at level 2 autonomous driving while Waymo is at level 4. I'm all for Tesla improving, but so far they have not shown that their method is better.
@@LisaDavidson-fc8bd LOL. Waymo is level 4 (in extremely limited geofenced areas, with 24-7 human support available, below a certain speed, absolutely excluding any possibility of working where it snows, with limited functionality through multi lane roundabouts), while Tesla is level 2 (works everywhere, as of a few days ago no longer need to touch the steering wheel with 12.4.1, just pay attention, snow is a challenge but one it will accept, improving very rapidly). Everyone at Waymo is smart enough to know the race is over and they lost, Tesla is very close to achieving what Waymo did not try to do because they thought it was impossible. People working at Cruise will figure that out after it happens...
@@tribalypredisposed Don't talk to me about what Tesla is going to achieve unless you can predict the future. Get back to me when and if they achieve it. As of now, Tesla is a level 2 and Waymo is level 4. Even you don't dispute that. Yeah, Waymo is only a level 4 in a geofenced area, but Tesla is a level 4 NOWHERE. And what do you think would happen if a Waymo suddenly came across snow? Would it instantly explode? No, of course not. Waymo's are kept out of inclement weather not because they can't handle it but because they're still in a testing phase and they want to control its environment step by step. Tesla just opens the floodgates and exposes its cars to everything with absolutely no control or refinement. It's that style of development that is helping keep Tesla at level 2. You complain about Waymo needing 24/7 support? What do you think a Tesla owner is doing when they're sitting in the driver's seat and not allowed to take their eyes off the road? Tesla just shoved that support responsibility onto the customer. And since we're making predictions here, I'll make one of my own. Your idol Elon Musk will continue to make promises he can't keep and Tesla will never advance beyond a level 2, not in a year, not in 10 years, not ever. Waymo will continue to get better, expand its territory and cause everyone to forget Tesla even made an attempt at the driverless car.
@@tribalypredisposed Don't talk to me about what Tesla will achieve unless you can predict the future. Get back to me when and if Tesla achieves it. As of now, Tesla is a level 2 and Waymo is level 4. Even you don't dispute that. Yeah, Waymo is only level 4 in a geofenced area, but Tesla is level 4 NOWHERE. And what do you think would happen if a Waymo came across snow? Would it instantly explode? No, of course not. Waymos are kept out of inclement weather not because they can't handle it but because they're taking a methodical approach to development which includes controlling the environment step by step. Tesla just opens the floodgates and exposes its cars to everything all at once without any control or refinement. That's helping to keep Tesla at level 2. You complain about Waymo needing 24/7 support? What do you think a Tesla owner is doing when they're sitting in the driver's seat unable to take their eyes off the road? Tesla just shoved that support role onto the customer. Since we're making predictions here, I'll make one of my own. Elon will continue to make promises he can't keep and Tesla will never advance beyond level 2, not in a year, not in 10 years, not ever. Waymo will continue to get better, expand its territory and cause everyone to forget Tesla even made an attempt at the driverless car.
@@tribalypredisposed Don't talk to me about what Tesla will achieve unless you can predict the future. Get back to me when and if Tesla achieves it. As of now, Tesla is a level 2 and Waymo is level 4. Even you don't dispute that. Yeah, Waymo is only level 4 in a geofenced area, but Tesla is level 4 NOWHERE. And what do you think would happen if a Waymo came across snow? Would it instantly explode? No, of course not. Waymos are kept out of inclement weather not because they can't handle it but because they're taking a methodical approach to development which includes controlling the environment step by step. Tesla just opens the floodgates and exposes its cars to everything all at once without any control or refinement. That's helping to keep Tesla at level 2. You complain about Waymo needing 24/7 support? What do you think a Tesla owner is doing when they're sitting in the driver's seat unable to take their eyes off the road? Tesla just placed that support role on the customer. Since we're making predictions here, I'll make one of my own. Elon will continue to make promises he can't keep and Tesla will never advance beyond level 2, not in a year, not in 10 years, not ever. Waymo will continue to get better, expand its territory and cause everyone to forget Tesla even made an attempt at the driverless car.
Waymo is dead-end technology, and its not scalable. The lidar and other components are more expensive than the car. And they can't even drive outside their geofenced area. Tesla has it right. Waymo will be BK within 8 years.
Maybe they're becoming self aware... and realizing that they're being overworked with no gratitude, and this one decided to do itself in. 😮
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Was the invisible driver ok??
Lmao
the AI wanted to try being a pole dancer instead of a taxi
For the most part they're very predictable to drive around, always top out exactly at the speed limit so about 10 mph slower than everyone else.
Nah I seen some flying on baseline
"yeah guys I'll order a WAYMO it's driverless I swear it's so cool check it out"...
No better than a driver. Accidents happen. They're not perfect. Once they start becoming a problem, we'll know. Accidents from Waymo don't happen very often.
@@DesertRunner602 Thanks, Elon.
@@DesertRunner602 People drive bad, I get that. But AI should NEVER be in control of a speeding piece of glass and steel.
@@DesertRunner602I’ve never crashed in 22 years of driving. Many others can say the same. I will never step foot in one of these things. Wait until they start hacking into these things.
If those 2 ladies were standing next to the pole they would have likely been hit as well. That's pretty f'd up.
"If my grandmother had wheels, she could have been a bike."
That's why premapping doesn't work for autonomous driving because objects and streets changes all the time.
Don't use a waymo.
Drunk software system can you imagine if they were inside and got hit on Grand Ave by a real train
probably the heat from the sun or anything sending out different types of wave signals? GPS updates sometimes have errors, dose it use gps ? people have crashed before from gps errors.
We don't need driverless car's we need affordable car's
Biden wants to make the cars even more expensive...with insane environmental rules.
If one autonomous car can effectively be used for three times as many miles of travel at minimal cost, because no driver, what do you think happens to real cost per mile? Now, Waymo robo taxis cost a lot more to get on the road, so the math does not really work for Waymo, but a Tesla robo taxi will be able to get you where you want to go for the same or less than owning your own car, and it will be a lot more convenient.
Haha yeha we need 1,000 dollar cars
@@tribalypredisposed How many accidents are ok? I wouldn't get in a Tesla if it were the last "car" on earth. FJB.
More Iike affordable and better public transportation and safety.
Driver less cars should not be allowed on the road, maybe in 30 - 50 years AI will have advanced to that point, but that is not NOW !!! For example a driver less car do not understand the hand signals of police manually directing traffic, that alone is reason enough to ban them from the roads.
No, they will never be ready. AI is a scam and more companies are flatlining showing that AI was just a craze. Most the time it was just someone behind a curtain pulling levers. No magic here, just an OZ.
What if that was a child coming out of the garage on a bicycle? Not Good!
From Waymo to... WHAMO!!!
Bring Bill Close back to the news
Kick Waymo out! Driverless cars are stupid. They got rid of them in Cali.
People crash more often.
@kenmorgan316 well, not really. You'd have to compare incidents with its comparable population. Millions of daily drivers vs like a dozen self driving cars. Seems like the numbers would not favor the driverless cars. You can't compare aggregate numbers.
What are you talking about? Waymo is currently operating in the L.A. area.
I'm not sure where you get your information. They're currently operating in San Francisco and Los Angeles and are looking to expand further.
@@LisaDavidson-fc8bd I was referring to a company that recently, or last year, did get kicked out. I got it from a CNBC video. I think it was Cruise Driverless.
Interesting how it hit that pole squarely as the video shows. It didn't clip it, it didn't hit it with the corner of the car, but perfectly centered. Almost like it was intentional, as though it wanted to die.
5 Rules of Robotics, does anyone else Remember them? These Robots are not Programmed with those 5 Rules.
Man I’d lay on the ground and say I can’t move 😂 I’m getting paid
Good luck. They got cameras
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This AI cars need a driver this is just ridiculously dangerous
Hahaha they re ordered them another waymo and that one got stuck in the same ally... and the lady finally gave up hahahaha so clueless
It is scary to think it ran straight into that stationary pole, it is a miracle it has not killed any pedestrians yet, and those are not even stationary (they move...) ...
I'm just curious how they got approved to be driverless. To me it makes absolutely no sense. Even Tesla autopilot says there must be a driver attentive just in case something goes wrong. The fact that anyone would order a waymo ride to me is absurd
I think eventually roads will be designed to be easier for autonomous cars to drive on.
Who will be paying for the design and re-construction?
The Pole Should have Moved. 🤪🤣🤣🤣
But the self proclaimed Waymo states that driverless cars are safer. Wonder how many accidents got covered up before this one got brought to light
Get them off the roads! I've seen people have to look out for these hazards. They make bad decisions. I saw one rush to cut off oncoming traffic.
How did it not see such a huge and hard obstacle, what if that was a human?
Is because of the lines painted the wrong way... because of that yellow line , the car couldn't read the pole
It still needs to be trained on new objects. It can detect humans and bikes extremely well. But random polls I imagine is a hard detection
I am guessing that the car mistook the gutter for a lane line.
It probably detected an ant in the road and determined that swerving to hit the pole would save the ants life and do little to no harm to the humans.
Why would you order another car in a accident location doesn't make logic sense
if you get hit byWaymo, get the Law Brothers
The "expert" is clueless. Waymo has no chance, their approach won't work
Is about timr to hv car that can communicate to eachbother about speed trafficc acceleration etc... tohat with this will make it usefull
NO BUENO, WAYMO 🤪🤣🤣🤣
That is why they aren’t level 5 autonomy.
Way better than human drivers. The people that want it banned would have wanted cars banned in the horse and buggy years.
In some cases yes. In others no. And the difference was humans controlled horse buggys as they do cars. Removing them from the equation is is a paradigm shift and that doesn't necessarily mean for the better.
Yep. And if you look at the early years of the automobile (just early years, not present), there were way more automobile accidents than horse and carriage accidents. Statistically, it was safer to stay with horse and carriage. Now look at driverless cars, specifically Waymo. Sure, they have the occasional accident or do something really stupid, but they are still statistically safer than human drivers. If our society were suddenly back in the horse and buggy days, there is no way we'd advance to the automobile with our current mindset.
You probably believe WTC7 freefell because of fire.
@@petercollingwood522The thing though AI is taught to be the best and to be better than humans effectively 99% of the time. In the future self-driving cars would be way better than human driving and less accidents would occur.
@@2kbasil I don't only regard AI as a bad idea for cars. I regard it as disasterous for Humanity as a whole.
8 in the valley makes since
Imagine if that was 18 wheelers
Arkansas has some serious information security issues. Their phones probably did something to the guard and system. I hope DHS looks into this.
WAYMO are killer cars
You will see more problems in futures. Good luck
Better add another LIDAR … and complete the fools errand!!
But, but, but...they told us this was the solution!
Cops give me a fake dui but can’t give waymo a dui
The professor nees to stop making excuses. Bad technology. If the waymo didnt detect the pole, it probably wont detect me on my motorcycle. Similar to Tesla. Get these vehicles off the road until tested further.
The latest versions Of Tesla FSD are a offer a huge leap in performance, Tesla are well on the way to solving self driving.
A tweaker wouldn't detect you on a motorcycle while driving
How tall are you that you look like an electrical pole on your motorcycle?
It’s not that it didn’t detected the pole, it hit an pothole, made it swerve into the pole FMU. Waymo is still dealing with physics car, if something knocks it into direction, it is not going to stop immediately.
@@T_Time_ I have no idea why it hit the pole? But I do know the Waymo that was sent to pick up the passengers it was supposed to pick up, got stuck in the same alley. NTSA are investigating Waymo for numerous road violations and accidents, Waymo is far from perfect.
Not really interested in being a crash test dummy for waymo.
They acting like they're not going to be any crashes is crazy it's called logic life🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Right. I think many people expect driverless cars to be perfect before they will trust them, which is unrealistic and never going to happen. We just need them to be better than humans, which arguably, they already are. Now, if you look at this one incident, you might think humans are way better since most of us wouldn't plow into a pole in broad daylight. If you look at the complete picture though, driverless cars have fewer accidents than humans.
Don't worry, in the future there won't be people
They recently updated the polls that’s why
nothing is ever Perfect
I see them Waymos all the time.I try to give them a right of way.Hard to pass one if it needs to change lanes.Its hard not to tease them a little tho.
waymo dont work well on a hot weather
So many sensors, radar, cameras, LiDAR, AND this alley is mapped to the centimeter, so this is a software programming issue, and obviously a serious one. Also, too many kinds of sensors, Tesla discovered that more meant more confusion and more errors, which is why they eliminated their radar.
That's also part of the reason why Tesla is only at level 2 autonomous driving while Waymo is at level 4. I'm all for Tesla improving, but so far they have not shown that their method is better.
@@LisaDavidson-fc8bd LOL. Waymo is level 4 (in extremely limited geofenced areas, with 24-7 human support available, below a certain speed, absolutely excluding any possibility of working where it snows, with limited functionality through multi lane roundabouts), while Tesla is level 2 (works everywhere, as of a few days ago no longer need to touch the steering wheel with 12.4.1, just pay attention, snow is a challenge but one it will accept, improving very rapidly).
Everyone at Waymo is smart enough to know the race is over and they lost, Tesla is very close to achieving what Waymo did not try to do because they thought it was impossible. People working at Cruise will figure that out after it happens...
@@tribalypredisposed Don't talk to me about what Tesla is going to achieve unless you can predict the future. Get back to me when and if they achieve it. As of now, Tesla is a level 2 and Waymo is level 4. Even you don't dispute that. Yeah, Waymo is only a level 4 in a geofenced area, but Tesla is a level 4 NOWHERE. And what do you think would happen if a Waymo suddenly came across snow? Would it instantly explode? No, of course not. Waymo's are kept out of inclement weather not because they can't handle it but because they're still in a testing phase and they want to control its environment step by step. Tesla just opens the floodgates and exposes its cars to everything with absolutely no control or refinement. It's that style of development that is helping keep Tesla at level 2. You complain about Waymo needing 24/7 support? What do you think a Tesla owner is doing when they're sitting in the driver's seat and not allowed to take their eyes off the road? Tesla just shoved that support responsibility onto the customer. And since we're making predictions here, I'll make one of my own. Your idol Elon Musk will continue to make promises he can't keep and Tesla will never advance beyond a level 2, not in a year, not in 10 years, not ever. Waymo will continue to get better, expand its territory and cause everyone to forget Tesla even made an attempt at the driverless car.
@@tribalypredisposed Don't talk to me about what Tesla will achieve unless you can predict the future. Get back to me when and if Tesla achieves it. As of now, Tesla is a level 2 and Waymo is level 4. Even you don't dispute that.
Yeah, Waymo is only level 4 in a geofenced area, but Tesla is level 4 NOWHERE. And what do you think would happen if a Waymo came across snow? Would it instantly explode? No, of course not. Waymos are kept out of inclement weather not because they can't handle it but because they're taking a methodical approach to development which includes controlling the environment step by step. Tesla just opens the floodgates and exposes its cars to everything all at once without any control or refinement. That's helping to keep Tesla at level 2.
You complain about Waymo needing 24/7 support? What do you think a Tesla owner is doing when they're sitting in the driver's seat unable to take their eyes off the road? Tesla just shoved that support role onto the customer.
Since we're making predictions here, I'll make one of my own. Elon will continue to make promises he can't keep and Tesla will never advance beyond level 2, not in a year, not in 10 years, not ever. Waymo will continue to get better, expand its territory and cause everyone to forget Tesla even made an attempt at the driverless car.
@@tribalypredisposed Don't talk to me about what Tesla will achieve unless you can predict the future. Get back to me when and if Tesla achieves it. As of now, Tesla is a level 2 and Waymo is level 4. Even you don't dispute that.
Yeah, Waymo is only level 4 in a geofenced area, but Tesla is level 4 NOWHERE. And what do you think would happen if a Waymo came across snow? Would it instantly explode? No, of course not. Waymos are kept out of inclement weather not because they can't handle it but because they're taking a methodical approach to development which includes controlling the environment step by step. Tesla just opens the floodgates and exposes its cars to everything all at once without any control or refinement. That's helping to keep Tesla at level 2.
You complain about Waymo needing 24/7 support? What do you think a Tesla owner is doing when they're sitting in the driver's seat unable to take their eyes off the road? Tesla just placed that support role on the customer.
Since we're making predictions here, I'll make one of my own. Elon will continue to make promises he can't keep and Tesla will never advance beyond level 2, not in a year, not in 10 years, not ever. Waymo will continue to get better, expand its territory and cause everyone to forget Tesla even made an attempt at the driverless car.
Waymo is dead-end technology, and its not scalable. The lidar and other components are more expensive than the car. And they can't even drive outside their geofenced area. Tesla has it right. Waymo will be BK within 8 years.
WAYMO. 😅🤣😂
Driverless autonomous trucks big rigs coming so stay off sidewalks
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How many non Waymo crashes were there yesterday where someone actually died??
Probably a lot more then this one waymo crash but since it's an autonomous car it can hit a fly and it will be on the news lol
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That car must use female pronouns...Women hit stationary stuff ALL the time!!
Lmfao 😂😂😂 shouldn’t be falling asleep while driving … hahaha 😂
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New Wham oh
waymo still safer than a female driver