I had Incentivise, but I can admit that the blood drained from my face when I saw Jmac high in the irons cruising at the 400m. It's giving me nightmares to be honest but I backed her Caulfield Cup last year into the MC and did the same with Incentivise this year. Taking out Twighlight Payments fast MC race last year, that's 3 of the best wins I've seen, dominant wins. I hope they meet again and it would be amazing if they did in a northern hemisphere spring feature, then come back and duke it out again. The field next year would be 10 runners, the handicapper brain would explode
Absolutely agree....was following Verry Ellegant from the start and had her close to the fence before the turn and had moved her up within a couple of lengths of the leaders at the turn....she was travelling so sweetly for him.....
@@samrabinovici1140 the plan would have been to get her one off 4 or 5 pairs back and the map worked put perfectly for him. They had to be closer than she was last year. Then she got a perfect tow into the race on the back of Spanish Mission who was following Grand Promenade (who also ran a massive race 3 wide the trip). A bit of a shame that Incentivise wasn't quite at his best.... can you imagine those two coming clear and fighting out the finish. Can't wait for the Tancred in the Autumn
I've watched her from the very start, so erratic as a youngster, but was always going to be a star. She was the best horse in the race so who could deny her that awesome victory. Verry Elleegant becomes a legend.
Watching the race live there was a point about 1300m out I think it was where the caller says she's way off the fence and at that point you could see she was trailing Spanish Mission in. I thought to myself then that she's won this. Such a tough horse. Probably the first time i haven't had a win bet on her in her career, but am stoked to see her win either way.
I remember backing her 2020 and unless you did back her you don’t realise how much ground she made up on the straight as soon as j Mac was announced to ride her in the 2021 cup I knew she’d win, I had $1500 on her each way I pulled out 32k I still get teary eyed watching this everytime there will be no other like her
What a great ride by the jockey. Got into 10th one off by finding space early, peeled out to keep free down the back, easy advance to 800m then kept within striking distance until the turn. Perfect. A lesson for all MC jockeys. She's a great horse too, but they need a good pilot.
@SvendBosanvovski Incentivise has been cleared of serious injury. Apparently he had filling in both front tendons. JMac's ride was perfect.... if you watch the overhead of the start it was made very easy by the early speed map.
@SvendBosanvovski and apparently he pulled up sore after the Caulfield Cup so he is a very classy horse indeed. However, I still think she would have beaten him in THIS race if he was fully fully fit.
@SvendBosanvovski yes terrific news mate. Apparently Peter M was ecstatic when he heard the news... so I think the concern was genuine. I hope we get to see them face of in a Tancred in the Autumn. Stakes Day looks like a cracking finale to the carnival. I was hoping Classique Legend would line up in the sprint. Looks to be an easy kill for Nature Strip. Zaaki is predictably short for the MacKinnon. Is there anything that can beat him? JMac, barring misadventure should break Brett Pebble's record of wins at the carnival.
@SvendBosanvovski update from IFHA... "Meanwhile, several horses also put in impressive efforts this past month in Australia. VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) [122] is ranked following her four-length victory over INCENTIVISE (AUS) [122] in the Lexus Melbourne Cup (G1), while STATE OF REST (IRE) [120] is ranked off of his win in the Ladbrokes Cox Plate (G1). Additionally, MASKED CRUSADER (AUS) [122] is ranked following his game second to NATURE STRIP (AUS) [124] in the Tab Everest."
Couldnt believe how well she was travelling on the turn with 57kg and went past them Makybe style, incredible odds too for a 9 time group 1 winner, there was obviously too much focus on Incentivise!
Of course, typical "punters" backing a $2.80 "sure thing because all the bookies say so" horse who has won a few good races, maiden earlier in the year, and never ran 2 mile, against a gutsy, proven, 9 time G1 winner, has run the distance before AND was "average" leading up...dead giveaway, imagine a horse like VE going into a race like this and not even being looked at, comical...The fave probably won't win another race ..different vids on YT i predicted the exact outcome right down to the exact moment VE will destroy this field. Happy days. love ya, VE - showed what a CHAMPION is
@@csbcsb4458 I'm kicking myself I didn't back her. And in retrospect, a 1 length 3rd in a Cox Plate is a decent WFA warm up for a 3200m race. Her sire, Zed is also a noted sire of stayers, the longer the distance, the better they like it. Once she figured out how to settle she's been amazing at distances 2400m or longer (i.e. forget her Wakeful & VRC Oaks failures, she had her head up racing keenly for the first 1/3 of both races and the jockey had her positioned near last). The Melbourne Cup 2020 was a small aberration, but we can see she had no hope from how far back she was. She ran on better than anything in the last 800m, when the leader's daring and successful dash for the line commenced, which was obviously a precursor to her 2021 performance. In races longer than the Cox Plate since the VRC Oaks there has been a win in the AJC Oaks, Tancred Stakes, Caulfield Cup, and the 2 Cup runs.
All the punters thought her GF was 10 days earlier running a great 3rd in the Coz Plate, her GF was always going to be the Melb Cup, she was racing dour during this prep I don't bullshit I'm off the punt but had $500@$15, but that money is back in the TABs till.
I cant believe everyone wrote her off. Everyone was saying wide barrier, shes a wet tracker seriously, shes now a 10 time group 1 winner i followed her since she came to australia definetñy my fave best ever
It was but he was absolutely gifted a great spot. He would have thought his best spot was 5 pairs back... which is exactly what he ended up with. The map worked out perfectly for him.
I was on Spanish Mission, it had a great ride as well, but James and Verry Elleegant just went past him like he was tied to the post, that turn of foot at the end of 3200m was electric!
J mac got to far back last year if you saw her last year she was charging home I was so pissed off at him last year at least he learnt his lesson and had her much closer this year.
Another thing I glad to see is that all horses ran in the race have returned home safe and sound this year, at least there has been no tragic news for now.
Hall of Fame many more yet to come, 😍 beautiful to watch great ride j Mac and to all the team that makes it happen ,every turn out I applaud you all, CHAMPION 🏆 top class
5 months later. I was all over Incentivise. Had been backing him for months. But to see that beautiful mare dash past him I couldn't be upset, because I knew it was VE. What a girl. What a champion.
A great win by a great stayer, winning one year on from its Caulfield Cup win. A brilliant effort from one of Australasia’s best jockeys- a truly masterful ride, well done JMac.
It was Jmacs 2nd Major as he won a Slipper a few yrs back, everytime i watch it she did it so easy , she was the only horse you ever wanted to be on from the winning post the first time, she was that fit and perfect she was ready to go around again. But I think after this and the Autumn obviously she won another G1 but the heavy load of a Cups campaign and the heavy 50 tracks we produced again in Sydney really caught up with her, she was the first horse beaten in the QE and honestly she's not a 2000m horse I know she has won over 2000m but she is 2400m plus , she is the typical Zabeel blood from her dad. The further the better, but to carry 57kgs and win like that, yeah it was an ordinary field but nothing would have beaten her this day. Champion. The Cox Plate run was just a Cup trial , this was Waller's target for her, so what now does she retire and become a mum or does she have a nice long spell and travel ?. You know Waller will do the right thing with her. But lightning can strike twice. Winx then this girl.
I couldn't watch this online, site kept crashing. First Melbourne cup I've missed watching Live in 29 years due to health problems. Thank God for TH-cam
Barrier 18 for a horse going back and with a long 800m run to the first turn was never going to be an issue. The 57.5kg was a slight concern but there were no decent light weights from Europe and she just had panels on the Aussie stayers in terms of class. JMac could not have positioned her in the run any better. That was a Melbourne Cup ride straight out of the text book.
@@Wo0dSyy Good to see you didn’t lose faith . I even had doubts she would even run , I thought she was on the decline . Coming so soon after Winx I underestimated her , it seems I’m not the only one 👍. There’s an eerie silence from the usual suspects .
Great win for Verry Elleegant...congrats to connections. From a breeding perspective...Its finally a Melbourne Cup win for the family of the great broodmare Eight Carat(mother of Octagonal & 4 other group one winners) & daughter Cotehele House(mother of Danewin). On the male line side.....was good to see the Zabeel line finally score another cup over the now very dominant Danehill line. Both of those champion stallions were born in 1986 and were old foes. Good to see their progeny running one and two in this years cup :)
JMac is the man. I wasn't going to bet the race then I read an article on racenet by JMcac and he was so confident that I had to bet him. Played win place and hit the exacta. 15-1 in our pool. $127 ex. I've always liked betting jockeys. Great ride by the King!!!!
Damian Lane off, JMac on, good jump off a poor barrier, settled midfield early, stalked the speed and pounced at the 300. The win with 57KG was super impressive! Change of Jockey and a great ride did the trick!!! Lesson learnt, never back VE with Damian Lane on board!
@@chrishughes1057 Was probably linking both Turnbull and Cox Plate efforts rather than the Cox Plate in isolation.. Just happy to see her win a Melbourne Cup!
That was a outstanding ride start to finish, even the start he slotted her in a nice spot straight away. Great House had a good run as well and found nothing in the straight.
She was the only horse you wanted to be on even at the mile, she was cantering and she just levelled up to the front runners and said see ya boys im the best horse in the Country, full credit to Incentivise take out the mighty mare and he completes the double, people say he didn't stay the 3200m yes he did, he had all rights to drop out but kept rolling to run second, maybe next year if he is going aswell might be his year more seasoned and a tougher horse but you can't complain if you own him 2nd in the Cup and 3 i think G1s in a row so he's a very good horse. But all credit to the mare, Chris Waller says that the Cox Plate was her GF but to my eye it was the perfect Cup trial, but he is the master 5 yrs ago, he was winning G1s like bench mark 54s, but had not struck a major, then came along the best ever is Winx who gave him 4 Cox Plates, then this girl gives him a Caulfield Cup and now tge Melb Cup, so all he needs to complete the grand slam is a Slipper, unbelievable but he is such a humble man and deserves everything he gets.
I think it is very funny how even horses get discriminated by the nature by humans only to come back and say EAT MY DUST . Verry eleegant was and still is one of my favourites ❤
Proof for Patience, Perseverance, Superb Timing, Brilliant Riding by the Jockey And Amazing Response from the Horse. Result: Great Win and Joy. Worth seeing the Replay Again and Again.(V.M.Sridhara)
I have been fighting for this horses reputation over the last two weeks with a few local knockers online here who were calling this mare a second stringer performer on the UK platform..this win today shuts them up totally and they know who they are, she is a world class mare who can mix it with the best..so far, no UK performed horse has been able to carry more than 56.5 kg in the cup over the last 30 years...this mare carried 57 kg and won it with a leg up in the air.
A beautiful win. Shes however,3-1 against Addeybb at WFA G1 level. Weakest MC in a while too...rules to try and keep overseas visitors out Took our neighbours in NZ to breed her and a Kiwi to train her.
@@cmrcz7550 Yeh, but there have been plenty of previous winners called "champions" beating weak fields, let's her take on ADDEYYEB over this distance, reminds me of people denigrating Sunline because she couldn't beat Northerly because she was at the end of her career, how many races OS did Northerly win??...
LOL She’s beaten Spanish Mission mate, not St Marks Basilica. This was a great win in an Australian context but she’s the best horse you’ve got, in comparison to European form Spanish Mission doesn’t even make a list of the top 30. An admirable performance but I think you may be getting a little carried away. A credible third is probably the best you’d expect from her in a proper G1. Although, maybe she is a better horse at 3200 than the second stringer she’d be here at 2000/2400.
@@thrusta100 Addeybb has never been prepped for this distance.Far too much depth and class at all the distances to be so versatile. Addeybb came and travelled the 18,000km here TWICE and proved himself.
@SvendBosanvovski Addeybb travelled 18,000km TWICE and beat her 3 times out of 4 He also beat horses like Te Aku Shark and a host of others He and his team doesnt really have to prove anything.They talked and then WALKED THE WALK Now where did all TALK re VE contesting an Arc lead?
Verry Elleegant was the most experienced horse going into today's race but was priced at $21. Finished first in the George Main Stakes then 4th and 3rd prior to 1st at Flemington
The more I watch the replay the easier it looked she did it, she was cantering the whole way, she was that fit and you didn't want to be on any other horse Incentivise was all guts and heart who didn't drop out after VE went past him, plus now we know he had some injuries but that wouldnt have changed the result but what a mare.
Great ride by the hoop, great run by the mare, but spare a thought for the second horse. Wide the whole way up in the death seat, kicked too early in the straight, making him a sitting shot. I thought about a dozen horses would run over him, but he kept on fighting to the end. Take nothing away from the winner, but what a magnificent effort the second horse.
Especially good considering he pulled up with minor tendon issues. I disagree with your comment that he kicked too early though. His racing pattern on the past has demonstrated he lacks acceleration. He needs to build his speed and I think, given the barrier was ridden perfectly. I think without the injury those two would have come away and fought out a classic finish
I bet on elleegant, had a stuff up at the start of the race and missed the first 500m, couldn’t really see the horse until that last 500m when she shot through! First year for me having a go at the cup, how good!
Absolutely, in harness racing sitting on the outside of the horse in front is called the death seat or facing the breeze, and very few horses win from there including gallopers especially over two miles. Can't see how that was a good ride.
@@Boozoobajou1 one counter argument is Incentivise is a horse who likes to work through his gears and build speed. Doesn’t have the sharp turn of foot as VE does. I do agree i hope to see him take cover next prep!
The only horse I can remember winning a cup from outside the leader was empire rose, who won by a nose. Thought the tactics by the incentivise team was poor.
It was easily the biggest win I've ever had (more than 100k). Thank you Verry Elleegant for confirming your champion status. She travelled so sweetly and put them to bed with authority.
@@dazzac74 lol haters are gonna hate. No not a professional at all just a smart punter with some luck. It was more than 100k. I backed her from 38/1 into 20/1 in the Melb Cup over 4 or 5 months to collect 30k and landed 4 multi's where she was the last leg. I had 2 multi's with Anamoe (Caul Guineas) into Verry Elleegant (Melbourne Cup), another with Nature Strip (Everest), Hitotsu (Vic Derby) into Verry Elleegant (Melbourne Cup) and another with Anamoe - Nature Strip - Hitotsu - Verry Elleegant. That last one was 5,840/1 and I only had $20 on it lol and the funny thing is I would have won another 100k+ had Anamoe won the Cox Plate. It ran 2nd beaten 2cm (official margin). I've never been more confident on a horse in the Melbourne Cup. She's a champion stayer - she's now won 4 from 5 at 2400m and beyond, all Group 1's, with her 'failure' being the 2020 Melbourne Cup when she got a mile out of her ground. Jockey had her too far back and set her an impossible task. She was 16 lengths from the leader and winner Twilight Payment with 1000m to go and flew home to run 6th beaten 3 1/2 lengths so she effectively made up some dozen lengths on the winner in the last 1000m in 2020. She was already an Oaks, Tancred Stakes and Caulfield Cup winner. Let us not forget that she beat an English Derby winner in that Caulfield Cup too.
@@leedelaney70 mate you dont have to give me all the data, lol. I know what she's won and lost, i worked at Mick Price Stables back when Pompeii Ruler won his Aust Cup at Caulfield but landed a massive win when he won his 2nd run and he was Micks best horse in the stable and he went round at $35 , I even got a call when his Caulfield Guineas Horse who I cant think if his name right this second that paid $101/1 I got told the horse was flying but no one wants to know about him so had $1000 on , but I don't get on youtube talking about winnings . I don't punt anymore but follow every horse as Im into breeding side of things, VE is a cross of Eight Carrot who we know was Occys mum. Thats why she is getting better with age, Waller just had to iron out her over racing and to settle, Id been on her from day one, her total cost as a yearling was $13500, Zeds service fee was $500 and the owner purchased her mum for $13k. Anamoe was bred to be a stallion but Godolphin will prob retire him after his next prep, same with Redoutes was specifically bred by Danehill and Santhas Choice to be the next champion Stallion. I just hope Anamoe races on atleast into the 2022 Cox Plate, VE Cox Plate run was just a cup trial ,she isn't a Valley horse but went thru the line brilliantly and in a convo podcast I heard frim from Waller, they watched the Cox Plate 10 times or more and seen she was dour, but also her last 100m was the reason he ran her in the Cup. She when she goes to breeding barn will throw better progeny then Winx, Winx was just a freak of nature, but VE is also bred to be a very good broodmare.
Everyone was going on about Incentivise and I watched a video of Verry Elleegant's 9 previous group 1 wins and knew Incentivise would get run over by the much classier mare. The consistent horse.
Shouldn't be taking anything away from the Qld galloper, from a Toowoomba maiden to a gut busting emphatic Caulfield cup win, he's still a freak!! #braveasf
Prior to the Cup, Verry Elleegant has completed over 23,000km(9 wins) of Group 1 wins vs 5500km(3 wins) of group 1 wins. 4 of Incentivise first wins were in much easy company. Look it is a great horse, but Verry Elleegant has the history, experience and has km under her legs.
Not sure on the stats, but winning both the caulfield and the Melbourne cup in the same year is very low, but there are plenty of instances where they will win both in the following year. Incentivise should be a good chance next year with a bit more experience and km under the belt. On the M cup race, Incentivise really needed to put 2 or 3 lengths on them before the 600m, Verry Elleegant was too close and did her normal run of push out wide around the end of the turn, push ahead and drift across the track disrupting any other horse to run her down.
James McDonald really knows where and how to propel the horse, they are so familiar with each other, it is like Hugh Bowman and Winx, they have a special bond, just a tiny movement from James, and Veeery Elegant will know what to do! I was right, I said Veeery Elegant will win the Melbourne Cup, I did not put a bet on her
A great run She has to go down as one of Australia’s great racehorses. She’s clearly a better horse at 2400-3200 than she is at 2000. It’s a shame there is virtually only 1 suitable race for her every year from now on. When have 3 of the 4 top weights ever run the trifecta in the Cup before???
well said mate, surprised to see you so congratulatory, was expecting something of the lines of "weakest Melbourne cup field ever" ...😂 that performance shocked me, horribly ordinary the previous two runs, but who knows, Waller may have set her for this race all along, Champion trainer, mare and jockey. JMac back on her back today a huge gear change. Been on fire to start this carnival.
What a horse, definite champion, and best of all she’s a kiwi. Makes you wonder how good Te akau shark would have been, he made her look second rate. What about the chosen ones race, got trampled on and still finished top 5
I know Europe has won a few M Cups but I have been banging on for years about the wrong types being sent out there.You do need a quality 10f+ horse,the stayers do well but generally can't quicken when you need too!! IMHO.....
No, I didn't back it unfortunately but I can't believe the news reporters claiming it was a boil over win, ridiculous ro say the least. Two of the best horses in Australia finished first and second, say no more. It was a ripper of a race and the winner was just so good.
Omg I saw very elegant work out b4 coxplate that horse got a turn of foot thats not matched when well ridden and doesn't have to make a long sustained run around a bend won 1300 today put 100 win
That race was over when the reached the winning post....on the first lap! it was an identical ride to last year but with a lot more luck, I mean she drew wide both years and attempted to settle about midfield, one off which happened both years, last year the pace was slow and most of those out wide went forward meaning by the time they went out of the straight she only had 3 or 4 behind her in a slow run race, this year they went along much quicker and while she settled in an identical position all of those out wide had to go back to get in, meaning she had more than half the field behind her, from then on it was always going to be a procession, I backed her from $16 all the way out to $26 and thought she should have been the fave, her run in last years Cup was a beauty and she should have won, I had to wait 12 months to back her but she made the wait worthwhile, Waller's conservatuive approach is a worry, you would think he was training Koala's (a protected species)not race horses, if they had 4 mile races she would be even better! Any races she won under 2400 was on sheer class, at 2400 she is only just getting warmed up, she has always been in Makybe Diva's class but badly handled, same as Winx, they always kept her in her comfort Zone too, I have no doubt that Winx could have won multiple Melbourne Cups, she could make long sustained runs that never stopped, actually I don't think we ever saw the best of her, she was never really given a test and we were lucky to see the best of this mare too....and now she will just go back to the same old same old
RIP the mighty mare, the darling of the turf. Thank you for creating this amazing moment for all of us
One of the best cup wins in recent memory, I've watched the replay so many times just to appreciate it.
Ya I just watched about 5 times.
I had Incentivise, but I can admit that the blood drained from my face when I saw Jmac high in the irons cruising at the 400m. It's giving me nightmares to be honest but I backed her Caulfield Cup last year into the MC and did the same with Incentivise this year. Taking out Twighlight Payments fast MC race last year, that's 3 of the best wins I've seen, dominant wins. I hope they meet again and it would be amazing if they did in a northern hemisphere spring feature, then come back and duke it out again. The field next year would be 10 runners, the handicapper brain would explode
One of best side since Ryan moore 2014 on protectionist
Go Igor , great race
Fck oath soon as it jumped j mac had it there knew it was gonna be there
J Mac what a ride!! Overcame the wide barrier and the weight. What a horse!!
His ride was elite. No doubt they learned a lot from her experience last year
Absolutely agree....was following Verry Ellegant from the start and had her close to the fence before the turn and had moved her up within a couple of lengths of the leaders at the turn....she was travelling so sweetly for him.....
@@samrabinovici1140 the plan would have been to get her one off 4 or 5 pairs back and the map worked put perfectly for him. They had to be closer than she was last year. Then she got a perfect tow into the race on the back of Spanish Mission who was following Grand Promenade (who also ran a massive race 3 wide the trip). A bit of a shame that Incentivise wasn't quite at his best.... can you imagine those two coming clear and fighting out the finish. Can't wait for the Tancred in the Autumn
I've watched her from the very start, so erratic as a youngster, but was always going to be a star. She was the best horse in the race so who could deny her that awesome victory. Verry Elleegant becomes a legend.
Had my eyes kn her all race. Such great positions and rode so well. Congratulations to all the punters and trainers
I do because I back the stupid loser in the cox plate! Okay hats of to the winner! But it makes you ANGRY!!!
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Watching the race live there was a point about 1300m out I think it was where the caller says she's way off the fence and at that point you could see she was trailing Spanish Mission in. I thought to myself then that she's won this. Such a tough horse. Probably the first time i haven't had a win bet on her in her career, but am stoked to see her win either way.
I've followed her all along too Brett....she had that special quality from young....
I remember backing her 2020 and unless you did back her you don’t realise how much ground she made up on the straight as soon as j Mac was announced to ride her in the 2021 cup I knew she’d win, I had $1500 on her each way I pulled out 32k I still get teary eyed watching this everytime there will be no other like her
This was an awesome performance by Verry Elleegant- such a strong win. Also credit to Incentivise- class run for 2nd.
What a great ride by the jockey. Got into 10th one off by finding space early, peeled out to keep free down the back, easy advance to 800m then kept within striking distance until the turn. Perfect. A lesson for all MC jockeys. She's a great horse too, but they need a good pilot.
@SvendBosanvovski Incentivise has been cleared of serious injury. Apparently he had filling in both front tendons. JMac's ride was perfect.... if you watch the overhead of the start it was made very easy by the early speed map.
@SvendBosanvovski and apparently he pulled up sore after the Caulfield Cup so he is a very classy horse indeed. However, I still think she would have beaten him in THIS race if he was fully fully fit.
@SvendBosanvovski yes terrific news mate. Apparently Peter M was ecstatic when he heard the news... so I think the concern was genuine. I hope we get to see them face of in a Tancred in the Autumn.
Stakes Day looks like a cracking finale to the carnival. I was hoping Classique Legend would line up in the sprint. Looks to be an easy kill for Nature Strip. Zaaki is predictably short for the MacKinnon. Is there anything that can beat him?
JMac, barring misadventure should break Brett Pebble's record of wins at the carnival.
@SvendBosanvovski update from IFHA... "Meanwhile, several horses also put in impressive efforts this past month in Australia. VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) [122] is ranked following her four-length victory over INCENTIVISE (AUS) [122] in the Lexus Melbourne Cup (G1), while STATE OF REST (IRE) [120] is ranked off of his win in the Ladbrokes Cox Plate (G1). Additionally, MASKED CRUSADER (AUS) [122] is ranked following his game second to NATURE STRIP (AUS) [124] in the Tab Everest."
Couldnt believe how well she was travelling on the turn with 57kg and went past them Makybe style, incredible odds too for a 9 time group 1 winner, there was obviously too much focus on Incentivise!
Of course, typical "punters" backing a $2.80 "sure thing because all the bookies say so" horse who has won a few good races, maiden earlier in the year, and never ran 2 mile, against a gutsy, proven, 9 time G1 winner, has run the distance before AND was "average" leading up...dead giveaway, imagine a horse like VE going into a race like this and not even being looked at, comical...The fave probably won't win another race ..different vids on YT i predicted the exact outcome right down to the exact moment VE will destroy this field. Happy days. love ya, VE - showed what a CHAMPION is
@@csbcsb4458 addeeyb demolished her
@@scouserdan3 interesting selective memory because she also beat Addeybb well
@@csbcsb4458 I'm kicking myself I didn't back her. And in retrospect, a 1 length 3rd in a Cox Plate is a decent WFA warm up for a 3200m race.
Her sire, Zed is also a noted sire of stayers, the longer the distance, the better they like it.
Once she figured out how to settle she's been amazing at distances 2400m or longer (i.e. forget her Wakeful & VRC Oaks failures, she had her head up racing keenly for the first 1/3 of both races and the jockey had her positioned near last). The Melbourne Cup 2020 was a small aberration, but we can see she had no hope from how far back she was. She ran on better than anything in the last 800m, when the leader's daring and successful dash for the line commenced, which was obviously a precursor to her 2021 performance. In races longer than the Cox Plate since the VRC Oaks there has been a win in the AJC Oaks, Tancred Stakes, Caulfield Cup, and the 2 Cup runs.
All the punters thought her GF was 10 days earlier running a great 3rd in the Coz Plate, her GF was always going to be the Melb Cup, she was racing dour during this prep I don't bullshit I'm off the punt but had $500@$15, but that money is back in the TABs till.
I cant believe everyone wrote her off. Everyone was saying wide barrier, shes a wet tracker seriously, shes now a 10 time group 1 winner i followed her since she came to australia definetñy my fave best ever
Lmao you pretty much say every horse that wins a big race is your fave. Com’on Angie, you’re better than that!
@@jamesfalele4305 mate i been following her ever she came to australia. Out of all horses i like id pick her all the way shes a freak
There were some pretty big bets on her
Awesome ride by jmac . Well done Chris . Stunning cup win
It was but he was absolutely gifted a great spot. He would have thought his best spot was 5 pairs back... which is exactly what he ended up with. The map worked out perfectly for him.
I was on Spanish Mission, it had a great ride as well, but James and Verry Elleegant just went past him like he was tied to the post, that turn of foot at the end of 3200m was electric!
She was gathering them from about the 800 without any effort and that explosion at the 400 was amazing!
J mac got to far back last year if you saw her last year she was charging home I was so pissed off at him last year at least he learnt his lesson and had her much closer this year.
@@GL-ys8je J Mac wasn’t actually riding her last year, it was Mark Zahra
@@Ryan82711 So I've been abusing the wrong jockey all year.lol
I blame Damian lane lol he made very elegant look ordinary in the last 2 races completely overlooked her
This was my second year of betting and I placed my bet on Verry Elleegant and I won. Love frm Fiji ❤ Congrats to the whole team of VE.
Bro you must be a smart guy that's knows about horse 🔥🔥👌...kaji ca
Akashni ,all I can say is Bet little and not often
Ketna jitha reh?
When I hear of the Melbourne Cup, Pharlap always comes to mind. Thanks from the crumbling USA.
Another thing I glad to see is that all horses ran in the race have returned home safe and sound this year, at least there has been no tragic news for now.
Perfect ride from a great jockey
👍🏾👍🏾
Hall of Fame many more yet to come, 😍 beautiful to watch great ride j Mac and to all the team that makes it happen ,every turn out I applaud you all, CHAMPION 🏆 top class
5 months later. I was all over Incentivise. Had been backing him for months. But to see that beautiful mare dash past him I couldn't be upset, because I knew it was VE. What a girl. What a champion.
Very first time betting and I choose verry elleegant. She is a real champion!!! Bravo you made me smile whole day yesterday.
A great win by a great stayer, winning one year on from its Caulfield Cup win. A brilliant effort from one of Australasia’s best jockeys- a truly masterful ride, well done JMac.
Rip beautiful girl, can't believe you are gone so young.
It was Jmacs 2nd Major as he won a Slipper a few yrs back, everytime i watch it she did it so easy , she was the only horse you ever wanted to be on from the winning post the first time, she was that fit and perfect she was ready to go around again. But I think after this and the Autumn obviously she won another G1 but the heavy load of a Cups campaign and the heavy 50 tracks we produced again in Sydney really caught up with her, she was the first horse beaten in the QE and honestly she's not a 2000m horse I know she has won over 2000m but she is 2400m plus , she is the typical Zabeel blood from her dad. The further the better, but to carry 57kgs and win like that, yeah it was an ordinary field but nothing would have beaten her this day. Champion. The Cox Plate run was just a Cup trial , this was Waller's target for her, so what now does she retire and become a mum or does she have a nice long spell and travel ?. You know Waller will do the right thing with her. But lightning can strike twice. Winx then this girl.
I couldn't watch this online, site kept crashing. First Melbourne cup I've missed watching Live in 29 years due to health problems. Thank God for TH-cam
Magnificent ride from this jockey. He’s got great hands. Reminds me of Johnny Letts. Watch how he relaxes that horse throughout. Congrats
Hey he has lovely legs too!
First time I am the winner of melbourne cup only becoz of VERY ELEEGANT ,God bless you 🏇 and team.
Was best horse in the race but 57.5 barrier 18 thought it might be too much, but she’s a star, she’s now a champion
Barrier 18 for a horse going back and with a long 800m run to the first turn was never going to be an issue. The 57.5kg was a slight concern but there were no decent light weights from Europe and she just had panels on the Aussie stayers in terms of class. JMac could not have positioned her in the run any better. That was a Melbourne Cup ride straight out of the text book.
YOU CANNOT SAY SHE ISN'T A CHAMPION NOW
Timeform will give it a solid try.
@@noncehuntingassociation8744 she just breezed past Winx
Yes she is now, honey. Lol
@SvendBosanvovski Good to hear Svend so at WFA with the 3 to 4lb advantage on the boys she'd be rated to beat Yeats?
@@Wo0dSyy Good to see you didn’t lose faith . I even had doubts she would even run , I thought she was on the decline .
Coming so soon after Winx I underestimated her , it seems I’m not the only one 👍.
There’s an eerie silence from the usual suspects .
One of the greatest mares in the history of Australian racing. What a win!
And it's a kiwi.
Now second after Makyvediva
Now second to very elegant,
Very elegant ..11group 1's
Mkdeva 10 group 1's
33kiwi breds have won the last 55 M.Cups ...
The first Horse to win From Barrier 18 ....
In 163yrs of the Great Race ....
Mkdeva... would be envious ....
Very Elegant showed she had the better stamina for a long race. Destroyed every opponent. Don’t underestimate the mighty Mare ❤️
Kiwi horses mate...kiwi horses
Excellent ride!!!!
Wonderful horse. One of the best Melburne Cup.
Great win for Verry Elleegant...congrats to connections.
From a breeding perspective...Its finally a Melbourne Cup win for the family of the great broodmare Eight Carat(mother of Octagonal & 4 other group one winners) & daughter Cotehele House(mother of Danewin).
On the male line side.....was good to see the Zabeel line finally score another cup over the now very dominant Danehill line.
Both of those champion stallions were born in 1986 and were old foes. Good to see their progeny running one and two in this years cup :)
She has Danehill and Cotehele House on the dam and sire side.
I was on Veerry Elleegant. I was pretty amazed when she sailed to the front..!
Yay, brings back memories of 1983 when Kiwi won..another victory for a NZ horse..
Kiwi was last on the turn .
JMac is the man. I wasn't going to bet the race then I read an article on racenet by JMcac and he was so confident that I had to bet him. Played win place and hit the exacta. 15-1 in our pool. $127 ex. I've always liked betting jockeys. Great ride by the King!!!!
RIP Verry Elleegant. What an amazing horse.
Nice win girl!!
Great ride Jmac
Congrats New Zealand
Damian Lane off, JMac on, good jump off a poor barrier, settled midfield early, stalked the speed and pounced at the 300. The win with 57KG was super impressive!
Change of Jockey and a great ride did the trick!!! Lesson learnt, never back VE with Damian Lane on board!
57kg.and ve was dour last few runs cause waller set it for the cup.
Would have to agree with you with Waller setting her up for the cup. But i still stand with the fact that Damian Lane was shocking on her this year.
@@chuml33 don't read much into cox plate run at all. State of rest is an star in making and fiorente ran a dour 3rd in cox plate then won a melb cup
@@chrishughes1057 Was probably linking both Turnbull and Cox Plate efforts rather than the Cox Plate in isolation.. Just happy to see her win a Melbourne Cup!
@@chuml33 she was in season turnbull
What a ride from jmac.
That was a outstanding ride start to finish, even the start he slotted her in a nice spot straight away. Great House had a good run as well and found nothing in the straight.
He slid her straight across and sat on the rail didn’t he? I’ll have to watch again 😂
Congrat Verry Eleegant .. and well done Criss.. from Malaysia...
She was the only horse you wanted to be on even at the mile, she was cantering and she just levelled up to the front runners and said see ya boys im the best horse in the Country, full credit to Incentivise take out the mighty mare and he completes the double, people say he didn't stay the 3200m yes he did, he had all rights to drop out but kept rolling to run second, maybe next year if he is going aswell might be his year more seasoned and a tougher horse but you can't complain if you own him 2nd in the Cup and 3 i think G1s in a row so he's a very good horse. But all credit to the mare, Chris Waller says that the Cox Plate was her GF but to my eye it was the perfect Cup trial, but he is the master 5 yrs ago, he was winning G1s like bench mark 54s, but had not struck a major, then came along the best ever is Winx who gave him 4 Cox Plates, then this girl gives him a Caulfield Cup and now tge Melb Cup, so all he needs to complete the grand slam is a Slipper, unbelievable but he is such a humble man and deserves everything he gets.
I think it is very funny how even horses get discriminated by the nature by humans only to come back and say EAT MY DUST . Verry eleegant was and still is one of my favourites ❤
Jmac deserves the cup and what a fine pony Verry Ellegant is had it to win at 21s, good day on the punt
Proof for Patience, Perseverance, Superb Timing, Brilliant Riding by the Jockey And Amazing Response from the Horse. Result: Great Win and Joy. Worth seeing the Replay Again and Again.(V.M.Sridhara)
I have been fighting for this horses reputation over the last two weeks with a few local knockers online here who were calling this mare a second stringer performer on the UK platform..this win today shuts them up totally and they know who they are, she is a world class mare who can mix it with the best..so far, no UK performed horse has been able to carry more than 56.5 kg in the cup over the last 30 years...this mare carried 57 kg and won it with a leg up in the air.
A beautiful win.
Shes however,3-1 against Addeybb at WFA G1 level.
Weakest MC in a while too...rules to try and keep overseas visitors out
Took our neighbours in NZ to breed her and a Kiwi to train her.
@@cmrcz7550 Yeh, but there have been plenty of previous winners called "champions" beating weak fields, let's her take on ADDEYYEB over this distance, reminds me of people denigrating Sunline because she couldn't beat Northerly because she was at the end of her career, how many races OS did Northerly win??...
LOL
She’s beaten Spanish Mission mate, not St Marks Basilica.
This was a great win in an Australian context but she’s the best horse you’ve got, in comparison to European form Spanish Mission doesn’t even make a list of the top 30.
An admirable performance but I think you may be getting a little carried away.
A credible third is probably the best you’d expect from her in a proper G1.
Although, maybe she is a better horse at 3200 than the second stringer she’d be here at 2000/2400.
@@thrusta100 Addeybb has never been prepped for this distance.Far too much depth and class at all the distances to be so versatile.
Addeybb came and travelled the 18,000km here TWICE and proved himself.
@SvendBosanvovski Addeybb travelled 18,000km TWICE and beat her 3 times out of 4
He also beat horses like Te Aku Shark and a host of others
He and his team doesnt really have to prove anything.They talked and then WALKED THE WALK
Now where did all TALK re VE contesting an Arc lead?
Had exacta 20 times what a bloody ride by J Mac
very elegant gapped the rest at the end,,, had activated the rocket boosters for the final stretch
Smallest horse in the field won like a boss. One classy mare.
What a race!.. I had VE to win and I hit the first four 😯.. this will be a cup to remember 🏆
Biggums yeah me too only 10 g this year
I got the frist four on to late,and it pay five thousand,talk me days to get over it.they only four I had.
Had her did listen to experted.
RIP, What a horse… and what a win 😢
Verry Elleegant was the most experienced horse going into today's race but was priced at $21. Finished first in the George Main Stakes then 4th and 3rd prior to 1st at Flemington
I bet on Spanish mission but well done to very elegant and her teams. 👏👏👏
So sad to learn of her passing today. I adored her.
The more I watch the replay the easier it looked she did it, she was cantering the whole way, she was that fit and you didn't want to be on any other horse Incentivise was all guts and heart who didn't drop out after VE went past him, plus now we know he had some injuries but that wouldnt have changed the result but what a mare.
Great ride by the hoop, great run by the mare, but spare a thought for the second horse. Wide the whole way up in the death seat, kicked too early in the straight, making him a sitting shot. I thought about a dozen horses would run over him, but he kept on fighting to the end. Take nothing away from the winner, but what a magnificent effort the second horse.
Especially good considering he pulled up with minor tendon issues. I disagree with your comment that he kicked too early though. His racing pattern on the past has demonstrated he lacks acceleration. He needs to build his speed and I think, given the barrier was ridden perfectly. I think without the injury those two would have come away and fought out a classic finish
Vale VE, best to ever do it ❤
I bet on elleegant, had a stuff up at the start of the race and missed the first 500m, couldn’t really see the horse until that last 500m when she shot through! First year for me having a go at the cup, how good!
I won 2k on elleegant, What a run !!
Likewise, got it at $26 haha!
R.I.P BEAUTIFUL GIRL 🌹🤍😭🏆
FOREVER A LEGEND 🐎🙏🏼
As they came around the final bend...you could see the jockey with a double handful....
Never in doubt...
Great ride
Incentivise posted wide the trip no cover and lead them up. Huge run, will go onto to do big things. The winner just too good.
Absolutely, in harness racing sitting on the outside of the horse in front is called the death seat or facing the breeze, and very few horses win from there including gallopers especially over two miles. Can't see how that was a good ride.
@@Boozoobajou1 one counter argument is Incentivise is a horse who likes to work through his gears and build speed. Doesn’t have the sharp turn of foot as VE does. I do agree i hope to see him take cover next prep!
The only horse I can remember winning a cup from outside the leader was empire rose, who won by a nose. Thought the tactics by the incentivise team was poor.
Kiwi horse kiwi jockey. What a combo
$50 fixed win. Beautiful horse. Awesome win 🔥👍
Had $200 on the fixed win! Beautiful Sight!
Nice I had $100 each on VE, The Chosen One and Ocean Billy. Kiwi pride✊🏽
@@jamesfalele4305 I always thought Veery Eleegant was a Sydney horse!
@@Jimmy911ism Her Caulfield Cup and Turnbull stakes win last yr said otherwise.
@@Jimmy911ism She should of won last year J mac butchered it.
What a great mare!
WOW what a ride
It was easily the biggest win I've ever had (more than 100k). Thank you Verry Elleegant for confirming your champion status. She travelled so sweetly and put them to bed with authority.
Yeah mate $100k you wouldnt be talking about it on youtube. So you are a professional punter aye ?.
@@dazzac74 lol haters are gonna hate. No not a professional at all just a smart punter with some luck. It was more than 100k. I backed her from 38/1 into 20/1 in the Melb Cup over 4 or 5 months to collect 30k and landed 4 multi's where she was the last leg. I had 2 multi's with Anamoe (Caul Guineas) into Verry Elleegant (Melbourne Cup), another with Nature Strip (Everest), Hitotsu (Vic Derby) into Verry Elleegant (Melbourne Cup) and another with Anamoe - Nature Strip - Hitotsu - Verry Elleegant. That last one was 5,840/1 and I only had $20 on it lol and the funny thing is I would have won another 100k+ had Anamoe won the Cox Plate. It ran 2nd beaten 2cm (official margin). I've never been more confident on a horse in the Melbourne Cup. She's a champion stayer - she's now won 4 from 5 at 2400m and beyond, all Group 1's, with her 'failure' being the 2020 Melbourne Cup when she got a mile out of her ground. Jockey had her too far back and set her an impossible task. She was 16 lengths from the leader and winner Twilight Payment with 1000m to go and flew home to run 6th beaten 3 1/2 lengths so she effectively made up some dozen lengths on the winner in the last 1000m in 2020. She was already an Oaks, Tancred Stakes and Caulfield Cup winner. Let us not forget that she beat an English Derby winner in that Caulfield Cup too.
@@leedelaney70 full of shit bro
@@leedelaney70 mate you dont have to give me all the data, lol. I know what she's won and lost, i worked at Mick Price Stables back when Pompeii Ruler won his Aust Cup at Caulfield but landed a massive win when he won his 2nd run and he was Micks best horse in the stable and he went round at $35 , I even got a call when his Caulfield Guineas Horse who I cant think if his name right this second that paid $101/1 I got told the horse was flying but no one wants to know about him so had $1000 on , but I don't get on youtube talking about winnings . I don't punt anymore but follow every horse as Im into breeding side of things, VE is a cross of Eight Carrot who we know was Occys mum.
Thats why she is getting better with age, Waller just had to iron out her over racing and to settle, Id been on her from day one, her total cost as a yearling was $13500, Zeds service fee was $500 and the owner purchased her mum for $13k.
Anamoe was bred to be a stallion but Godolphin will prob retire him after his next prep, same with Redoutes was specifically bred by Danehill and Santhas Choice to be the next champion Stallion.
I just hope Anamoe races on atleast into the 2022 Cox Plate, VE Cox Plate run was just a cup trial ,she isn't a Valley horse but went thru the line brilliantly and in a convo podcast I heard frim from Waller, they watched the Cox Plate 10 times or more and seen she was dour, but also her last 100m was the reason he ran her in the Cup. She when she goes to breeding barn will throw better progeny then Winx, Winx was just a freak of nature, but VE is also bred to be a very good broodmare.
@@leedelaney70 Mighty Boss that was the 100/1 @ $1000 but i didnt bet thru apps or TAB i went thru Sean Bartholomew
She did it with class, the usual day at the office.
RIP gorgeous girl, we love you.
R.I.P Champion ❤️🙏🏽
Everyone was going on about Incentivise and I watched a video of Verry Elleegant's 9 previous group 1 wins and knew Incentivise would get run over by the much classier mare. The consistent horse.
Shouldn't be taking anything away from the Qld galloper, from a Toowoomba maiden to a gut busting emphatic Caulfield cup win, he's still a freak!! #braveasf
What happened in the Turnbull like 3 lengths 🤫
Prior to the Cup, Verry Elleegant has completed over 23,000km(9 wins) of Group 1 wins vs 5500km(3 wins) of group 1 wins. 4 of Incentivise first wins were in much easy company. Look it is a great horse, but Verry Elleegant has the history, experience and has km under her legs.
Not sure on the stats, but winning both the caulfield and the Melbourne cup in the same year is very low, but there are plenty of instances where they will win both in the following year. Incentivise should be a good chance next year with a bit more experience and km under the belt. On the M cup race, Incentivise really needed to put 2 or 3 lengths on them before the 600m, Verry Elleegant was too close and did her normal run of push out wide around the end of the turn, push ahead and drift across the track disrupting any other horse to run her down.
Kiwi horse born and bred, kiwi jockey from Ohaupo New Zealand and kiwi Trainer. So proud
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James McDonald really knows where and how to propel the horse, they are so familiar with each other, it is like Hugh Bowman and Winx, they have a special bond, just a tiny movement from James, and Veeery Elegant will know what to do!
I was right, I said Veeery Elegant will win the Melbourne Cup, I did not put a bet on her
Well done ANZAC Brother!!
You guys have always bred and trained GOOD stayers!!!!!
I'm prouder than proud and louder than Proud and along with the 600,000 kiwis living in Australia
RIP to one of the best I've ever watched
A great run
She has to go down as one of Australia’s great racehorses.
She’s clearly a better horse at 2400-3200 than she is at 2000.
It’s a shame there is virtually only 1 suitable race for her every year from now on.
When have 3 of the 4 top weights ever run the trifecta in the Cup before???
well said mate, surprised to see you so congratulatory, was expecting something of the lines of "weakest Melbourne cup field ever" ...😂
that performance shocked me, horribly ordinary the previous two runs, but who knows, Waller may have set her for this race all along, Champion trainer, mare and jockey. JMac back on her back today a huge gear change. Been on fire to start this carnival.
@@nathjohn3158
Great ride
I just rewatched it following her.
Credit where credit is due
On ground she apparently doesn’t like.
Rest of the field was below average horses making up the line up and 30L behind top 5. Terrible field.
Shes actually a New Zealand Horse not Australian. Shes born and bred in New Zealand but trained in Australia by New Zealander Chris Waller.
@@Paakid
Yeah, I do know that mate. But what races did she win in NZ?
Impressive.
What a horse, definite champion, and best of all she’s a kiwi. Makes you wonder how good Te akau shark would have been, he made her look second rate. What about the chosen ones race, got trampled on and still finished top 5
Not only, is The great Mare very Elegant, a descendent of Eight Carat, so is her Sire Zed ...
I know Europe has won a few M Cups but I have been banging on for years about the wrong types being sent out there.You do need a quality 10f+ horse,the stayers do well but generally can't quicken when you need too!! IMHO.....
Rest in peace very Elleegant ❤️💙
Soon as it jumped you could see it would win j Mac perfection ☝
RIP beautiful
Go the kiwis!!!
What's a Kiwi,Isn't that a little Prick
ly thing
RIP girl. What great stayer she was😢
I just didn't think she could do it with that weight and barrier. Best horse in Australia.
Best jockey on the planet
How good
Is
Horse racing! Yup to the cup!
Hey can I get to know you
A lot of potential hurdlers in this field .
No, I didn't back it unfortunately but I can't believe the news reporters claiming it was a boil over win, ridiculous ro say the least. Two of the best horses in Australia finished first and second, say no more. It was a ripper of a race and the winner was just so good.
Here Hear !!!
A boilover was because of the price
Omg I saw very elegant work out b4 coxplate that horse got a turn of foot thats not matched when well ridden and doesn't have to make a long sustained run around a bend won 1300 today put 100 win
Bellside you can add another race to Verry Elleegants Group 1 wins video!!!!!
Will def have to remake it or maybe pt 2 lol
RIP BEAUTIFUL GIRL 🐎
kicking my myself i should have put VE in my trifecta bet instead of my f4 i would have got something back at least
🤣that's the story of my day. Thought I nailed first 4 only to realise VE wasn't there, but she was in my trifecta 🤦♂️🤣
I lost, I had Quinella ticket on Verry Ellegant and Twilight. Bugger Twilight.
Loved the race,backed the winner 🏆 and got trifecta. Great !!!!
Your shout
That race was over when the reached the winning post....on the first lap!
it was an identical ride to last year but with a lot more luck, I mean she drew wide both years and attempted to settle about midfield, one off which happened both years, last year the pace was slow and most of those out wide went forward meaning by the time they went out of the straight she only had 3 or 4 behind her in a slow run race, this year they went along much quicker and while she settled in an identical position all of those out wide had to go back to get in, meaning she had more than half the field behind her, from then on it was always going to be a procession, I backed her from $16 all the way out to $26 and thought she should have been the fave, her run in last years Cup was a beauty and she should have won, I had to wait 12 months to back her but she made the wait worthwhile, Waller's conservatuive approach is a worry, you would think he was training Koala's (a protected species)not race horses, if they had 4 mile races she would be even better!
Any races she won under 2400 was on sheer class, at 2400 she is only just getting warmed up, she has always been in Makybe Diva's class but badly handled, same as Winx, they always kept her in her comfort Zone too, I have no doubt that Winx could have won multiple Melbourne Cups, she could make long sustained runs that never stopped, actually I don't think we ever saw the best of her, she was never really given a test and we were lucky to see the best of this mare too....and now she will just go back to the same old same old
Mare won very easily? Honestly looked a class above these.
He rode it a treat
20 bucks on it….happy with that 😊
showed jmacs perfect timing and v e stmina the clock in jmacs head is why hes "so good"
The first Horse to win from Barrier 18.....
In 163yrs running.. of the Greatest Horse Race on the Planet ....
Mkybdeva .. would be Envious...
MY HORSE WON LETS GO 😩😩😩😩