Reacting to Kpop: Girl Groups - What in the Shibal - S1 E28
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ย. 2023
- Ep 28 is about Kpop (and the Fence Lady drama tbh) - especially since Susie has never really listened to Kpop. But first Susie talks about her hectic week including spilling carrot juice and getting overwhelmed to feeling the whole day is ruined... then Ed realizes that potentially on the same day he accidentally poured jja jang myun noodles down the drain. Susie was sick. Ed and Susie are similar but different. Susie's siter doesn't listen to the podcast so she doesn't intrude on Susie's privacy. Ed had his mother's birthday dinner and has been cooking for his mom including making kimchi together. Susie and Ed catch up on the Fence Lady drama in Toronto, Canada. Susie and Ed then watch the music videos of Twice - I Can't Stop Me; ITZY - Not Shy; FiftyFifty - Cupid; NewJeans - Super Shy; BlackPink - How You Like That.
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Please let us know what songs/artists you want to see next in the kpop genre - groups/artists or even krnb or khiphop! Thank you for being here!
I do not want to offend you, but your words in the previous video touched me. no thanks, better do more reviews on your favorite bts, new jeans or who else you constantly praise there. because it is very easy for you to belittle other people's merits, not even knowing the history of the formation of the artists themselves. for me and many others, your opinion no longer carries any value.
it would be nice seeing you react to some boygroups, like bts(not butter, dynamite or permission to dance lol, i recommend fake love or black swan), txt, stray kids, seventeen and enhypen. i think taking a loog at agust d's(the name suga from bts goes by when he does solo stuff) work would be awesome too, i recommend haeguem, rm's wildflower as well.
I feel like you would Like Mamamoo... I mean, anyone with ears would likes Mamamoo. And who doesn't love an underdog! You'll love the messages in their songs. There are songs where when they were criticized, they put it in a song. Hwasa was heavily scrutinized for her airport fashion once and this what they wrote in their song HIP:
"Beep, beep, People keep talking my fashion (Oh)
I don't care, it's just an action (Yeah)
Keep on click me click me as if you"re possessed zoom
Close up, close up, close up
Greasy hair If I do it, it's hip
Stained shirt panty sticking out
Greasy hair I don't care"
What Hwasa told her audience once after a show or meet-n-greet when she was told that she wouldn't make it bc she didn't fit the k-beauty standard after she was rejected from her first audition. She went home, cried, and then told herself: "If I don't fit today's beauty standards, I'll become a new, different standard" and became Hwasa.
You might want to check out the Vocal Queens - MAMAMOO 😊
I dunno if you're into Rock & Metal music..but you can try jump into Dreamcatcher's discography. A K-Pop girl group with Rock & Metal influences. Their concept can be darker, but sometimes fun.
BLACKPINK already said it in James Corden Show, that they love TLC & Spice Girls, and gave them inspiration on their music
Blink Stan 🙋♀️ she’s so right. Love you guys!
Blackpink queens fr🗣️
Facts ❤💯🔥
in 2022 TIME magazine listed BLACKPINK as ENTERTAINER OF THE YEAR 2022, and is the first girl group on the planet to headline the cover of the magazine.
Will you please take some of your time and actually watch from 56:30 before commenting BPs accomplishments? Cos I personally don't think either of them (specially the girl) care about blackpink at all.... All she cares about is "how k-pop groups (in this case BP) 'STOLE' black peoples music", so please check the video before putting all the comments cos sometimes people are not worth telling all these achievements
you can like something and still be critical of it... bc people aren't perfect. also not you literally ignoring Ed saying BP is literally what got him back into kpop just so you can throw a temper tantrum.
@@whatintheshibal ofcourse being critical of something isn't bad... Infact it should be taken as motivation to improve... BUT false allegations of "Stealing music" is not at all "being critical" specially when you yourself said "I don't know enough about them" and that's my problem with you (My problem is not at all with ED as he clearly KNOW that BP have paid homage and he even tried to tell you but you rub it off with "now you're being defensive" like what?) My problem with you is that you "Judged" them AND YGE without having full knowledge about them. You can be critical and we'll all appreciate that BUT first get to know them better before calling them "Stealers", it really looked like you have some bias against them and was not even trying to listen what ED was saying before taking a dig at them
I really need to see Soogia react to Maison by Dreamcatcher. Compared to other girl groups they have a darker, more rock leaning sound and they tend to sing about societal problems rather than just about relationships. Maison is the first title track in their Apocalypse trilogy that talks about global warming and the consequences if we don't take action. By this description it's easy to see why they aren't as popular as the groups you watched today, but they have quite the growing global audience! ^_^
Yep, Dreamcatcher is the one. I’m sure y’all will have the insight into why they are so much more popular overseas
There is never ending argument about what is K in K-Pop? Blackpink producer Teddy said it's just "Korean Pop" music, however, we don't call it American Pop or just Pop music when a K-Pop group sings a song in full English. So there is certainly a race, nationality, and culture that are keeping them becoming worldwide Pop groups. If any groups can sing in Korean to make K-Pop song, we shouldn't discriminate Korean groups as K-Pop even though they singing in full English.
YG itself was built upon the inspiration of Hip-hop music in general. As for the "Black music" thing... I have to disagree.. I don't know about other companies but YG and its artists has this Swag which differentiate them from other artists. And they never stated nor claimed to originally create any Genre. They themselves said that their inspiration was from hip-hop and as for 2NE1 & BLACKPINK .. Their musics are mostly a mixture of Hip hop and South Asian musics
YG was founded by one of the members of seo taji and the boys... but it's not about claiming to create the genre... it's about the fact that not all things are equal... some music is culturally tied... which means that you are benefitting from said culture... and it's just basic respect to not use the culture by just acknowledging it and also being there when the people of that culture need support. I don't know too too much about everything each group/artist does... but some do seem respectful like i know BP paid homage to some of hip hops greats in some of their lyrics... but as a whole... there def is a lot of work to be done in the industry toward progress
@@whatintheshibalit’s so rare to see people speak the truth when it comes to the hiphop aspect of kpop. The things is many of artists have said they got their inspiration and even copied from hiphop culture and legends like Michael Jackson, Bobby Brown, etc. I’ve seen kpop idols copy a whole song from a hiphop/r&b artists from the west and claim it as theirs. It’s nothing wrong with taking inspiration, but you should acknowledge that you gained inspiration from certain communities or cultures. So thank you for speaking facts.
Blackpink always say in interviews that they are heavily influenced by black artist (rihanna, tlc, etc)
I feel like giving credit to black artists would go a long way. I personally don't care. Mostly because I see it as someone loving my culture enough to represent it. I know that they know. That's enough for me sometimes, it feels better unspoken. Like we can just enjoy being ourselves. That being said, I enjoy all things and cultures. But often times being mixed I get shit on by both my people for liking things outside my people. Sucks when my people and the culture's people (apologies for my verbal acumen.) I'm interested in sees my interest as fake or Malicious. It's wack; but it'd be nice if everyone embraced and acknowledged the Inconsistencies.
Fuck. Sorry for the long comments. Found your podcast randomly which is rare for me. Absolutely love you guys energy.
acknowledgment goes a really long way. and race is a social construct but along with it also come culture... and nobody has the right to make you feel like you can't be rooted in the cultures of which you are inherently a part of. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us! ❤️
I feel through the screen how this woman does not like Blackpink. She immediately lost her good mood, she began to say something about stealing and so on. To be honest, you have very interesting videos and channel, I would love to follow you, but this woman at the end started attacking Blackpink, and saying that they supposedly do not pay tribute to other artists like BTS. She is a clear opponent of Blackpink and a big fan of BTS, and she should not talk about things that she does not understand anything.
Blackink is another level
Blackpink is a revolution.Kpop Global Queens.
1:02:10 well, the group you've started the point of 'paying homage & acknowledge the legends" on i.e Blackpink (and for thet matter YG as whole company) have never ever ever hidden their love and admiration towards black artist not once but numerous times. Latest example being the BP group members fangirling over Beyonce while attending her concert, earlier this year all 4 members said thet during their training they all were fully in love and got a lot of inspiration from groups like TLC & Spice Girls in "Carpool with james Corden", Jennie is a fan of weekend (and vise versa) and she said it multiple times when working with him in "The Idol". Even in the show "Blackpink house" they mentioned how they love Ariana Grande and spice girls. They had cover of Miguel (sure thing) and had collaborators with cardi B, lady gaga becouse of their love to them... They are best friends with Selena Gomez and the list can go on and on and on... Another Huge group from YG, BIGBANG never hid their inspiration was actually a a 'black' artist when GD was ruling k-pop he said it many times that his inspiration to music was certain black musician named "Pharrell Williams", Taeyang always said how he love MJ, Asher... So YG as whole Never ever ever said that "They created certain type of music" and actually always acknowledging the artist from whom they get inspiration from, So (even if blantly) saying that they "Stole" the music from certain culture when you yourself do not know or aren't sure of if they had paid homage or acknowledged the artists in past or not is such a foolish and irresponsible statement to make in my opinion.
jennie also called Rihanna her idol and looks up to Lauryn Hill. She also covered/danced many songs with black artists like H.E.R., Daniel Ceasar, Roberta Flack, Summer Walker etc. They also covered Miguel, Rihanna, Beyonce, etc. Blackpink talks a lot about black artists and their fav songs and albums
@@bb-px7rf Exactly... I really don't understand where this "Stole from black people" trend came from... I mean I've been following Blackpink since their debut but this is the first time haters are actually trying to target blackpink with this kind of $hït
@@shantanugadakh1131 well there is a fine line between appreciation and appropriation. for example, lisa wearing braids is a form of cultural appropriation because they used it in a video wheres she profiting off of it. using AAVE, which they’ve also used, is a form of cultural appropriation as well. if black people or another race/culture feel offended and hurt by it, you can’t deny it. however, paying homage to a black artist by quoting a line by them isn’t and shouldn’t be called “stealing”. hip hip continues to take music from back then and make it their own, that’s what hip hop is all about
@@bb-px7rf "Paying homage to black people by quoting a line by them should be called stealing"? Well please explain how is it stealing when in every other interview you say that it's not created by me but it's my way of showing love to the artist, who btw is also my inspiration. There are countless people who are inspired by MJ and as a respect to him they dance their heart out in 'His' style, so would you call that "Stealing" as well?
@@shantanugadakh1131 sorry i meant to put “isn’t and shouldn’t be called stealing”. that’s what i mean by the difference of appreciation and appropriation. quoting is appreciation
1:02:12 bts actually has a song called hiphop lover in which they mention all of their inspirations, that go from nas to epik high to j cole to jay z. they have always mentioned in interviews, and jhope even got to collaborate with jcole, his biggest inspiration, to make "on the street" before his enlistment.
BLACKPINK's current world tour is already the largest by a girl group globally, it has already exceeded 220 million dollars and has already doubled the tour of the SPICE GIRLS who had the record with 78.2 million dollars, the incredible thing is that BLACKPINK still has 18 dates left so they will easily reach 300 million dollars.
Time to do a final edit on this one. The only dates left are the final concerts in Korea in a few days. Two dates left. The Pinks deserve to rest, but I’ll be sad when it’s over.
@@NoelMcGinnis Yes, there are only 2 concerts left to complete the tour, but there are still 18 dates to be counted, probably in October or November the total amount of the tour will be revealed.
The rise of Kpop became a thing when I was in high school, and although it was cool to see some form of Asian, specifically Korean representation, it gave me severe body dysmorphia issues to the point where I would under eat every day. People like to turn a blind eye to these issues, especially when it comes to Kpop, but it's a real issue. I would never want my daughter to feel less than because of her body image, that would be heartbreaking. I understand why people like it, it's colorful, catchy, entertaining and does represent a niche of Asian culture.
Every artist is inspired by previous artists. This is the art form, you can't say it's stolen. Its not 100% exact replica.
YG is always been a hip hop concept and they never claim it's theirs.
YG Ent isn't a concept of hip hop, they are the embodiment. The CEO who started the company Yang Hyun-suk, was originally in a famous k-group (Seo Taiji and Boys) who brought the sound of K-HipHop. They pioneering the use of rap in Korean popular music despite pressure from ethics and censorship committees on their music. The guys that makes most of YG's banger beat for BlackPink is Teddy Park who was the leader of 1TYM (pronounced: one time) and the label he started is "The BlackLabel" grew up in NY/Cali. So that's the sound they have. I call BS of ppl saying replica. It's an evolution. The same ppl who cries appropriation on hip hop would never say the same about hip hop taking from the electronic/techno/syth music scene but you rap over a eat and ppk cry foul. Pfft. Themz the haters talkin.
@@shad0wCh8serwhat are you talking about? They used black producers and writers and they still do..yes, yg is known for appropriation as almost all of their idols have appropriated black culture as well as Hindu culture..and the nword is something that yg artists can’t seem to keep out of their mouths. They aren’t the embodiment of hip hop. If you said the older groups then I would agree as they directly copied from hip hop culture..but nowadays throwing random aave in a song is not the embodiment of hip hop. Modern American hiphop isn’t even the embodiment of hiphop.
BLACKPINK with 91 million subscribers on TH-cam is officially the artist or singer with the most subscribers in the world.
He is also the #1 most streamed artist in the entire history of TH-cam with over 32 billion views on his channel.
It is also the girl group with the most streaming in the history of SPOTIFY with 10 billion views, the merit is that they only have 38 songs (adding SOLO, group and collaborations)
Having only 38 songs total, considering they have only marginal involvement in the writing and production of their music, over a 7 year career, is not meritorious. That’s less than 6 tracks a year. Consider that The Beatles, who wrote their own songs, as well as songs for many other acts, played their own instruments, created their own record company, toured the world multiple times, appeared in two movies, produced 14 full length albums, had 30 number 1 hits, recorded over 200 songs, and sold more records than any other act in music history, and remains a big product 50 years after they broke up, did all that in only 8 years.
Getting views on YT or streams on Spotify is possibly the laziest measure of success. Virality has almost nothing to do with talent or hard work. Selling physical media is a better measure of true popularity since the fan has to actually give up their hard earned money than just clicking on a mouse. In terms of selling physical media, Twice leaves BP in the dust. And of course, their touring schedule and music output over almost the same span of time should put BP to shame.
@@thewilythylacinewhat do you actually mean by Physical Media? Because if we actually talk about album sales, BP have more sales per album than twice. They just so happen to release a lot of mini albums with irrelevant songs thats why they have higher sales collectively. Just stop defending Twice cause its pathetic. One member of BP alone is way more relevant and popular than Twice as a group. Jisoo can probably buy their group alone. like be for real, 4th Gen groups are even more relevant than twice nowadays. Dont be delusional, Maybe beat New Jeans first before coming to BP?
I feel like from all the companies in kpop YG does the best job at paying homage to hip hop and rnb legends and clearly addressing hip hop as a black genre influential to their music (I say that even tho I really dislike a lot of YG's politics and their artist management), but I do agree that in general that should be a much bigger discussion in kpop.
It's very clear to me not all groups should have the need to fill a "rapper" position and it's kinda absurd that some of these kids sometimes are put in this situation against their wishes, and most of them have literally no knowledge about hip hop, its history and political relevance. And that's when I feel kpop appropriate hip hop by completely emptying its meaning.
BTW.. although kpop it's the mainstream Korean genre known internationally, there are a lot of great k-rnb and k-hip hop artists getting more recognition.
YG def has big influence with hip hop in their lineup esp since it was founded by one of the originators of korean hip hop - seo taji and the boys. And I do feel like they are the most authentically in the hip hop genre. We as part of the culture just need to make sure we are there to support the community of the culture when they need it.
Also can't wait for some of those k-rnb and k-hip hop episodes!!! PLEASE let us know what songs/artists you wanna see
Twice are highly sensational and extremely popular globally.
how extremely? Lmao
@@marygracedalangin7728extremely, they sold out concerts over the world so…
@@marygracedalangin7728 They had a global tour that included stadiums and are the most streamed kpop girl group in the US and Japan. Is that not considered extremely popular?
@@marygracedalangin7728Of course, the extreme was being invited to Coachella as a headliner, becoming the KPop group with the highest world tour earnings and Se extreme becomes a global ambassador of luxury brands for each member and has almost 100 million followers on Instagram and even TH-cam
In what world do you live in because it’s not this world. Like lying is cringe
its so funny i came here for the kpop gg reaction but the tiffany gossip was so good ahgahaha
haha... like a train wreck... can't look away.
At 58:16, thanks, sis, for the important points!! Love, love, love, K-pop! Don't want the African American influences to get lost. Think it is appreciation for most groups. But, some groups are not aware of or do not appreciate the A. A. roots of the music they are participating in or building on. 💕💕
I've often wonder why k pop music is always preferred to as produced? Unless you listen to the solo artist not signed to any record ask music and artists are "produced". The illusion of a gangster rapper or of splashing money is no more real than having young idols train together their craft. I consider the kpop idol as a well trained performer like a classic violinist, who will perform music not written by them but are excellent in execution and therefore entraining nonetheless.
I love this podcast so much!!
thank you! ❤️
this ajumma is so much like asian karen
First point, on the fence lady, that if the fence is built on your property technically it's your fence. So if she want to tear it down then no one can do anything as it's on her property. If they didn't want it messed with then the need to have to pay to move it over or it'll will be taken down by the PROPERTY OWNER -which is not the ppl complaining.
Second point, I don't agree with ppl's claims of "appropriations" nor accusations of "taking" from black culture bc it's all influence. The braids or long braids for example, a lot or ppl call that "appropriation" or what not, but a certain group of ppl don't own the style of braided hair. Look farther back and you would see that indigenous Asians braided their hair, along with celtics, nordic vikings and so on. Technically, what we know now, or have ppl claim as "black culture" is borrowed *influence* of other cultures. So in short, I think it's all BS political talk that shouldn't be pulled into music. It's dumb bc culture and fashion has always been about influence and the reinterpretation of things that speak to the soul which is what makes art. Also, it's mostly haters that brings in the notion of "appropriation" bc not a single one of those ppl are blowing up Eminem's spot for the same argument of "cultural appropriation" nor does any one dare to say anything about tupac (which one of my all time fav artist) appropriating "culture" when he was *influenced* by literature. So to me, it should be a free-for-all influence as it propels the art of Music/Fashion culture forward and the only time ppl should speak up is when it's used incorrectly or in a racially discriminatory manner, like a black or yellow face or if in a negative light like for propaganda with a hidden agenda -like what the Nazi swastika did to the original symbol of Buddhism left-facing sauwastika. (And if you are unaware, the Nazi swastika basically took the Buddhism left-facing sauwastika -which stood for auspiciousness, took it and flipped it backwards and made it their symbol to be what ppl know it to be now, a symbol of hate. The Nazi is the biggest appropriator there is but no one wants to talk about that. Instead they want to be petty like you took this and that from MY culture when they have no idea where it came from in the first place.)
And I'll throw down another history lesson for the kids. "Hip-Hop culture" isn't just music. Technically hip-hop culture includes 3 factors: Mc-ing, DJ-ing, and breaking (bboy/bgirl). That's hip-hop, hiphop culture. I won't go into the details here, bc it's too long, but that is what started hip-hop as a culture. And breaking was invented by a bunch of puerto ricans and has it's root in latin dance. Long story short, the base of all bboy steps were based, born out of salsa. The top-rock is essentially modified steps of the salsa dance -which is "borrowed" from the latin community -influenced. So these cries of "appropriation" is stoopid to me. Those who are in an uproar about that are ppl who are preventing a CULTURE from evolving. And technically, everyone is influenced by "western anglo" culture as the modern clothing that we ALL wear are European in nature. What none Anglo-European culture wears pants and/or a bras back in the day? But everyone in a developed area basically do now. Appropriations or Influence? Groups like BlackPink are merely an evolution of music and ppl hating bc they have popularity while weak ppl want to take away from their success of contributing to the evolution on a craft they worked hard on. To me, there is no different from ppl crying cultural appropriation, now, and the 1950's when white ppl said that black ppl couldn't sing the song that white ppl were making in that era. It's just one of these 🤨moments. But bc they did, when got groups like The Temptations and The Supremes which lead to R&B/ Soul, Which lead to the Beatles to Rock to Grunge to Punk and "POP"ular music is a mix of all. It's a evolution brought on by influence.
Finally Someone sensible in the comment section... I really hope the lady reads your comment and learn a thing or two, specially before throwing false allegations of "It's Basically 'STOLEN' from certain culture" when she herself neither have any idea about culture nor about Blackpink.
Thank you so much for the reaction to our queens "Twice" actually Twice is the most awarded kpop GG out there and have the best discography they're so flexible they can do a lot of genre of music if you know "Bside song" Twice songs is really God Tier, Twice is a 8th year Group and still serving in the industry by producing Both Quality and quantity of musics, the thing about Twice you will never see Twice lacking or getting Tired they're really love to perform that's why onces called the most spoiled fandom.
ok but i think you should maybe do a little more research before talking about the fifty fifty situation like it really is not on the girls,, i dont think we can blame them for being upset about lack of financial transparency thats not greedy thats basic and what they deserve, the internet is not on the company's side but rather the ceo is famous and literally paying the kpop news sites to paint him as the victim lol. he even has a history of mismanaging groups so i dont find the girls' claims of mistreatment farfetched at all
it also came out that the company was extremely strict on them when it came to privacy and diets,,,the members are all very young and were forced to have very strict diets and had CCTV all over, even in their dorms. the CEO also had access to their CCTV at all times
i agree i think further research needs to be done before an opinion should be formed about them
1:00:49 Girl bye LMFAOO
It would be great if you react to XG, some people say that theoretically they are not Kpop because they are Japanese and sing in English but their entire structure is very Kpop and they debuted in Korea so it would be interesting to know your opinions about the girls.
Even their CEO and producer says that they’re not KPOP so…
*BLACKPINK (MUSIC VIDEOS)*
- SHUT DOWN
- PINK VENOM
- KILL THIS LOVE
- HOW YOU LIKE THAT
- DDU DU DDU DU
- BOOMBAYAH
- AS IF ITS YOUR LAST
- WHISTLE
- PLAYING WITH FIRE
- ICE CREAM (FT SELENA GOMEZ)
- LOVESICK GIRLS
- STAY
- MONEY
- LALISA
- ON THE GROUND
- GONE
- SOLO
- FLOWER
- READY FOR LOVE
- THE GIRLS (more recent)
BLACKPINK songs without music video (they are even better)
- PRETTY SAVAGE
- LOVE TO HATE ME
- CRAZY OVER YOU
- YOU NEVER KNOW
- THE HAPPIEST GIRL
- TALLY
- YEAH YEAH YEAH
- HARD TO LOVE
- FOREVER YOUNG
- DONT KNOW WATH TO DO
- REALLY
- BET YOU WANNA (FT CARDI B)
- KISS AND MAKE UP (FT DUA LIPA
- SOUR CANDY (FT LADY GAGA
- KICK IT
- SEE U LATER
- HOPE NOT
- YOU AND ME
- ALL EYES TO ME
They only have 38 songs but their level and quality is so superior that that alone is enough to become the biggest girl group in history.
I’d like to know what exactly about the TWICE girls faces look similar, because they’re known for all 9 of them looking very distinctly different. One of the only larger groups where people don’t regularly get members mixed up.
That just happens to some people seeing groups for the first time
@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291 not really. Especially when the people don’t look alike. TBH, it’s lowkey internalized something because no one says that about groups of any other race or ethnic group. It’s quite literally only ever said about groups of Asian people.
I still get confused over Sana and Tzuyu 💀
I wouldn't say it's necessarily about race, when I first watched a One Direction video I had no clue when I was looking at Niall, Liam or Louis, In Nickelback I can only tell Chad Kroeger apart from them and it's only cuz I've seen him alone so much. It's just when getting introduced to a group of people - irl or Kpop - they all blend unless there's major differences (like when I first saw Twice I immediately could differentiate Dahyun, the rest took a few interviews though. Especially because they're always wearing very similar outfits in MVs and could have any hair color/style)
Part of the strategy is to purposefully make them blend in so it sells the image of a group. Many groups are oftentimes pretty similar in body shape, height, etc... for the sole purpose so that from a distance they're obviously a group... who yes all have different styles and looks when you get to know them... but as a newbie it's strategically done to make them undeniably a group.
BLACKPINK is the biggest girl group of all time, with 305 musical awards, it is the most awarded girl group in all history and this past July 4, 2023 they were the main artists at the HYDE PARK festival in London with 65k tickets sold (sold out), being the first kpop act to headline the festival in all of history, the amazing thing is that they only have 38 songs and 7 years of music career.
Twice are the most awarded. They have 330+ awards
@@ayhmahchowdhury6903 twice 235 awards, bp 305 awards
I thought it was an interesting/humorous comment that all the members of Twice look similar. That way of viewing a group of people has always been a criticism about how white people view other races (the old “they all look alike” cliche). However, you two being Asian, a better reassessment of the criticism is that it is an American prejudice rather than a racial one. I’m not Asian, but have lived in Korea for 8 years, and have become a bit of a K-Pop fan. But after living here only a short time, I had no problems clearly distinguishing different members of various K-Pop groups even after a few minutes of the first viewing of a video.
Actually, if you watch old news footage of Americans’ reaction to British groups like the Beatles, or The Rolling Stones, the media had the same initial comments that they all looked alike. People are funny.
blackpink the biggest gg in the world, they go above and beyond outside of the kpop label and i couldn't be more proud of them🫶🥹
omg i follow susie on tiktok and I love her content. 💯
Twice 9 queens 3 japanes 1 Taïwan and korean
thank you for that!
@@whatintheshibalmost sold gg of all time. The national gg of Korea. They have the acknowledgement of the president of South Korea and Secretary of the US and were the first gg to hold a stadium in Sofi and Metlife and the first gg to headline a stadium. Biggest gg in japan etc. You should listen to the feels by twice, they used that song to win and appeal the western market. Which has done that
@@ayhmahchowdhury6903And almost releases hundreds of songs every year like a cow being milked every day without stopping😛😛💀
👉GUINNES RECORD👈
BLACKPINK's "BORN PINK WORLD TOUR 2022-2023" tour is the largest group tour in history, it has already raised 260 million dollars with 55 dates, the tour has 66 dates so there are still 10 dates left to count, when Counting the 66 dates, they will probably raise 310 million dollars, surpassing the 290 million dollars of the ONE DIRECTION world tour that holds the historical world record, that's how big BLACKPINK is.
I Will say BTS member have acknowledged their Black and Korean influences in hiphop. One of the memebers, jhope has a song with jcole, one of his influences. Rm has a song with Wale and a song with Anderson Paak **** edit i forgot to ADD RM has a song with Erykah Badu as well. Jungkook’s song features Latto.
56:31 BLINKS SKIP LOL
thank you, I was searching for the BP timestamp 😂
Twice are my favorite group but that doesnt mean there arent other very good groups out there haha
Twice is Queen
Pls more react to TWICE🎉
BLACKPINK was the first kpop act to sing at COACHELLA in 2019 (in that year he participated as a supporting artist) and their performance was so successful in this 2023 BLACKPINK was invited as the main artist at COACHELLA (first kpop act to headline COACHELLA in the whole history) and its 2 presentations in 2023 were so successful that they were watched by 500 million people live on TH-cam live, a historical record for the festival.
the best thing is that BLACKPINK will also be the headlining artist in LONDON HYDE PARK music festival 2023 and will also be the first kpop act to headline the festival in all of history.
BLACKPINK >>>
TWICEEE 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hip Hop is admittedly stitched together amalgamation of multiple
styles/influences/cultures, Kpop is fully self aware & owes no explanation , however , we welcome more #features and collaborations 🎉
hip hop is an amalgamation of mostly other genres created by Black Americans... blues, rnb, jazz, funk, etc. so not really the same correlation
Next time I recommend make reaction on girl groups like aespa spicy, red velvet bad boy
Shibal is a curse word
Yea they know
Twice ❤
Can someone do a timestamp for when they speak about blackpink😅
56:30
Blackpink got me Here. Now I am in your Area 😂
blinks dont waste time watching this lol
Because she made on criticism? 😂
Quick correction, Rosé is the one known for her strong voice, but that being said Jennie is still a great singer. Jennie is more known for rapping but she can really do it all
Blackpink❤
i suggest to research better about fifty fifty situation: they asked transparency and basic human rights (not being controlled w/ diets and CCTV, mind you). I think it's not greedy.
The CEO was too successful with his smear campaign, and it doesn't help that we are currently a culture of consuming headlines to build our unwavering opinions. The decline of the general public's media literacy has hurt the group immensely and it just sucks. 😔
well no..they lost. Many of their claims was debunked with medical records and the people mistreating them is the same company they teamed up with to betray their company. They had zero evidence and the evidence they did have was debunked. The truth is that they got too greedy and their parents got greedy and was easily manipulated by the givers CEO. Medical records showed that anytime a member complained about feeling sick they were immediately sent to the emergency room. Attrakt also immediately corrected financial documents where the givers made “mistakes” and out the revenue as 0 krw. The givers (same company that fifty fifty teamed up with to betray the CEO) has criminal charges out from Attrakt for embezzlement and fraud.
say # ..biggie is not owner flow... copy from Notorious B1's song....so u first time hear Biggie and think original?..now people the same who dont know black song ...first time hear is from k.pop...more popular beats the owner😊
More twice
Black people loves blackpink .. actually black people happy on bring back the hiphop we all know edm music took over the music 2014 what i love about blackpink is they breaking genre and culture thing making as one but music...
Don't talk for Black ppl pls. STOP PATRONIZING US~
Really like that susie brought up kpop using black culture and music and how it should be credited and addressed. This is a topic that is very important. Especially when the artist isn't black or educated about it. as someone who is Mexican in LA, I grew up around many black, brown, and asian cultures, and i can say we all have a lot of things in common. But it is very necessary that our cultures are respected, especially when they don't know what it feels like to be black and brown in America. It isn't just music, it's our pride and safe place, and it's a lot of history with so much pain rooted from it. hopefully these groups will understand that and take the time to give credit and acknowledgment
They all have more important things to do than thank some random Mexican American for inspiring songwriters to write songs the idols just show up and sing
@@Hgoenge81 you're white. you have no reason to be in this conversation in the first place. go put your energy somewhere else where your opinion could actually matter
Best girl group
Twice
BLACKPINK ARE QUEENS ❤
57:59 that would be rosé, not jennie
Twice is best kpop girl group on mama 2016 to 2020
BLACKPINK IN YOUR AREA!
This woman is a fan of BTS. And like all their fans, she splashes poison towards Blackpink
56:30 for all viewers...or should i say for blinks. Ladies and gentlemen. BLACKPINK!!
".... stealing from black music" ...wtf
I mean rap is black music
Blackpink is best group
liked the reaction, but i really dislike the word, cultural appropiation. Seems more like a word used to attack, and divide people, and often by people not from the culture they are trying to protect. Not saying you can´t give credit to the people that inspired you. i am not from Amarica and were i am from, this is not used, so maybe i am wrong about cultral appropiation, but when i have seen it used, often as a wepon, like white people can´t use braids, even tho many cultures have braids, also whites. Sorry for bad english.
No other cultrue but black culture has the braids we're talking about. As you said you are not knowledgeable about this so please don't spread false info. America is the biggest melting pot which is probably why people from there first are more aware of the effects of culture appropriation and speak out about it. It's not a bad word and it isn't hard to avoid doing it.
@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291 yea, maybe so. To me if you are policing hair and stuff like that, you seem to not be proud off you culture or want to make a divide in that great melting pot. either way I see it as negative. I can understand if its done in a mocking way, but if they make a effort, I can only see it as a negative to police it. especially if you want your culture to be recognized as a good ting.
Apink next please
blink 🇹🇭 🙏
I am so sorry but… Your POV is perhaps just a few decades behind…
A culture’s dominant influence towards a genre doesn’t mean that others can’t use it…
I understand if others mockingly utilise the genre or blatantly ignore the contribution the dom culture has towards the genre, but cultures diverge and disperse *naturally*
If you’ve ever studied anthropology or cultural/social studies you’ll know, that most cultures actually appreciate when their influences are being picked up by others - cuz it’s a signal that they’re doing something good/right
Acknowledgement is ofc not enough to excuse the decades or even centuries of the Black communities being “taken advantage” or stolen from, but the only way to progress is actually to be open, not be intimidated to respect, use, pay homage and just all round inclusive of other cultures to create a ‘newer wave’ of modern musical landscape where everyone can enjoy everything from everyone’s background
where did either of us say a culture can't use hip hop? we said they should acknowledge the origins... and what you're saying is centuries behind esp since cultural appropriation wasn't even a concept decades ago. And no most cultures don't appreciate having their stuff used for other's gain esp in instances where colonialism and slavery is a part of their history. In addition, even on Tik Tok, it's a big deal that you give CREDIT when you use someone else's dance or content/video idea. Why? Bc NOBODY prefers someone use their work or copy them WITHOUT credit. What you said literally doesn't apply almost ever. Everyone appreciates credit and everyone esp appreciates the people who copied and were inspired by their work to have those people come to back you up when you need it. That's the right thing to do. Literally every artwork works like this - you talk about who created certain styles and genres and why they came up with said styles... bc again credit is incredibly important.
Firstly, by your comments I suppose you're also saying that Eminem is "stealing" from black music and hiphop. Secondly, "cultural appropriation" is a racist concept, how exactly are people supposed to "thank" a culture for using their contributions to the arts? Do you post a "thank you" to Italians when you go to an Italian restaurant? You're part of the problem with this world, looking to find ways to keep people separated.
@@lazerx1828Totally Agree with you and to add to it, s/he says in her reply here that "people don't appreciate using their stuff for other's gain, specially where colonial and slavery was the part of their history" well guess what I'm indian and we had to suffer under British Raj for more than 150 years but STILL we appreciate everytime someone is influenced by our classical music or classical dance even if they don't even give us credit for it cos well, we believe in "the whole world is one family" and you obviously don't blame your family members and for getting inspired by you and not giving them credit after being successful do you? They'll only help us in deviding the world rather than making it accessible to all and getting everyone close to each other.
@shantanugadakh1131 you can think that but the reality for black people is letting others use our culture for profit will never benefit us. The people who use it will always profit more and will respect the aspects of our culture they use more than us as people and if that's what you settle for in your culture that has nothing to do with us and how we respond.
@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291 well did I say anything for black people here? I replied to her generalized statement for "Colonial Races"we also come in that catagory and as I said here it's not ALL who thinks that way. I haven't denied anything about people using your culture for their profit but not every colony who have been slaved thinks that other using their culture will harm them so it's really really subjective whereas above comment had generated it.
Odiei, eles atrapalham muito a música falando toda hora perdendo todo o suspense
More blackpink pleaseeeeeeeee ❤❤❤
SUPER POWERFUL QUEEN BLACKPINK
you have too many swear words in your speech. and I'm not at all surprised that such foul-mouthed people are bts fans