LEARN TO CODE - Destiny Debates Low Skill Jobs
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When I worked at Walmart, we looked down HEAVILY on the job. It wasn’t because we were called “low skill workers” it was because Walmart treated us like shit and everyone knew it. They allowed customers to walk all over us and you felt like you were a few steps removed from a servant.
If you work for a good company that treats you right, you’ll be proud of the job.
@Chris Smith well also costco is harder work... Walmart hires the lowest of the low people wise
Based. Fuck Walmart
Pray for me dalliban, I’m learning to code because the thought of being a delivery driver for another 40 years scared me
@Big Floppa thank you for your kind words
Aye you can do it fam, get the bag if that's what you desire
What language are you learning to code?
In the same boat. I’ve been in warehouse jobs for about 4 years now and I dread working in them forever. I’m currently in school for comp sci and you’ll be fine as long as internally motivate yourself. At the end of the day, if you don’t get a high skill job, you will be stuck doing a low skill one. I hate working, but I absolutely cannot continue to do low skill labor. Best of luck to you.
Same brother, 2 months in
Computer programmer here: you'd be surprised at the number of Computer science majors that drop out or change their major because of how hard it was to figure out.
"literally picking stuff up and putting it back down. A lot of farm workers would fit into this category..."
Woof... don't think I'm gonna be able to listen to this one.
He has no idea what farming entails. Picking tomatoes might be a low skill task, but successful farming in general requires a ton of knowledge. Running a farm is a fairly high skill job.
@@jeffwells641 Exactly. Those Mexican immigrants doing farming and construction jobs are 10x more skilled than fast-food workers (and they work way harder too).
@@nws6146 I grew up on a farm. My father had to keep track of so much. He had 300 cows memorized, and would be able to list of their tag number just by looking at their teats. He had their breeding rotations memorized, knew what fields needed to be rotated to a new crop this year, and was constantly researching bulls for the best genetics. He ran the 180 milking dairy farm, and did 80% of the work. I'm extremely proud of him, he doesn't think he is very smart.
@@Jake-rj4tc destiny is refeering to farm workers not farm owners. Different skillsets, both r hard work imo
@@TheChosen1inc
Well in case of construction, you probably need years of experience
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I say this as a low-skilled worker who hates his job. My shop can instantly replace me as long as there's people applying. And people are always applying. There's no reason somebody can't be hired and be ready to do every shift after being at work for a couple of hours.
That doesn't mean it's not difficult, but you could get children to do the job. The difficulty is from the job being shit and has a lower wage. The reason people don't is because nobody really wants to work in a shop.
It's nice seeing employers struggle to hire for low or unskilled jobs because they might finally improve working conditions.
Farming is low skill
Farming: an extremely high skill job that requires you to understand plants, seasons, disease, pest control, large scale land reformation, sales, networking and management of seasonal workers.
Also requires a large amount of dedication, time and physical strength.
Many low skill jobs are hard to do, but easy to learn.
Moving concrete bags all day at a building site is hard, harder than coding, but it's easier to learn, and so easier to find people that can do it.
Low-skilled jobs can also be hard or difficult jobs. I feel like people take one potential meaning of a word or phrase and just assume that's the only thing it means.
I don't know if my experience is different or not but it is 1,000% stigmatized to work at jobs like Walmart, McDonald's, grocery stores, etc. I can't tell you how often I've heard people talk about how it's not fair for minimum wage to go up when they only make $20/hr or something. People definitely feel like their job is a sign of their worth and status.
"If you like me so much, pay me more."
YEP.
I say this every time I get one of those bullshit corporate emails telling employees how we're heroes etc.
Destiny is right. I just came from a job interview about a job that empties septic tanks. It's a lot of bad smells and literally shitty tasks which should make that job stigmatized. However, it's actually a job well sought after in my country because it is paid really well and I am competing with 16 other people that wants that same job.
Salary is what decides if a job is good or not.
"The bigotry of low expectations"
I swear to God some people in the world would prefer to be institutionalized if it means they don't need to get a good job
walk up to a former coal miner and tell him in his face "just learn to code bro"
I Think people misunderstand low skill for low effort and not just how difficult it is to teach someone how to do it
Right? Walking uphill for 16 hours straight does not take any skill at all, yet most people would be incapable of doing it.
Difficult does not mean skillful.
@@jeffwells641 yup. I also hate that destiny uses programmer as his example of skilled work cause while it is, there is literally no reason not to use being a doctor as an example of being high skilled work
@@augustb.w.4778 Yeah, I think the biggest problem here is the guy he's talking to wants to say burger flipping for McD's is not low skilled labor, when it's some of the lowest skilled labor available.
There's also a distinction between being competent at something and being the best at something. The best in any field are likely going to be high skill individuals, even for tasks that are low skill on average, and they'll often be compensated socially and financially for said skill.
A guy who makes cheeseburgers at a Michelin Star restaurant is absolutely not looked down on the way a guy who makes cheeseburgers at a McDonalds is. One is high skill, the other is low skill. One has a guy hand grinding the meat in precise ratios, hand baking the buns, sourcing the cheese from specific farms, and grilling the burger to a perfect medium temperature while still getting a nice crispy crust. The other has a guy taking a frozen patty and trying not to burn it on the griddle, then squirting some pre-made sauce from an auto-portioning squirt gun.
The skill difference here is massive.
@@augustb.w.4778 I think he specifically brings up programming for 2 reasons. One, it’s directly applicable to the conversation and Two, it’s not so specialized that only a select few can learn it. Programming is a field that any *could* learn it, but most people don’t.
@@jsaktony1 yeah but isn’t the point that low skill vs high skill is a measure of how difficult it is to replace the worker and how difficult it is to become proficient at the job? If so programming is a lot easier to learn than being a doctor. And there is a way greater possibility of people saying I am a programmer and that isn’t difficult to do or learn
I think STRESS should be a major factor of how we label jobs. A good example is fast food, tons of people quit when stimulus checks arrived, and tons of confused news articles came out asking “why is there a labor shortage here? It’s *low skill* , you should be glad there’s a job so easy to get”…
I really wish we had a discussion about stress more. It’s a major factor is which jobs I select now.
Yeah and I bet that diagnosing someone with cancer is easier than making a taco at lunch hour. It's not the difficulty of the act it's how much effort it took to be able to perform the action.
Low skill means simple, not easy. Flipping burgers all day is not complicated, but it's probably demanding
It's demanding in the way that dealing with people is demanding, it's like an assembly line more or less. Assembly line plus screaming fat white women.
It's a good point and well said.
It was the first thing I thought of when they mentioned the comment that said some "low skill" jobs are "harder" than sitting down coding.
I'm sure moving bags of concrete all day everyday is in many respects "harder" than coding, but it's far simpler, requires far less training, and as such is easier to replace.
i fucking love when people who have no clue about low skill labor or especially farm jobs try to talk about them. live in a farm community for 25 years and tell me that "low income farm jobs" are thought of as immigrant jobs. hell so many legal and illegal immigrants get very fucking well paying jobs because their bosses have to raise the pay for positions just to get people to do the hard work and the an immigrant starts working for 15-20 bucks an hour in an area with really fucking low cost of living. ( and yes in low cost of living areas 15-20 bucks an hours is pretty fucking good)
They are immigrant jobs. Not because they are low paying. On our farm a lot of the pickers drive up in Lexus' and brand new Chevys. No joke, and in 30 years I've never seen a white boy once.
He isnt saying its not hard work, its just that it doesnt take “skill” to work on a farm as a layman. Its “easy” in the sense anyone could do it, but hard in that many dont want to do physical labor
@@TheChosen1inc my comment had nothing to do with the skill level of the labor. It was wholely about the pay of certain types of low skill labor....
@@TheChosen1inc
Unlike teaching Fat Studies, or teaching about Oppression.
You need years of experience.
Or coding. Extremely difficult so 12yo kids do that, & all the "Coding Geniuses" dumped the college.
Btw, Programmers are the 2nd dumbest people after LibArts.
Fact.
19:00 If you like me more, pay me more. "Real Gratitude bears the Queen's face." (or President's face, for my burgerbrothers.)
Burgerbrothers appreciated it
low skill = easy to learn
does not refer to how stressful and tiring day to day work is. Just because some labor is difficult doesn't make it valuable, it's value is only determined by the supply and the demand.
This guy doesn’t know the first thing about how farming works if he thinks that’s a “low skill job” while fast food isn’t.
This guy is funny. He’s complaining about how he thinks “low skill worker” sounds insulting and is arguing that we should change the term to make people feel better, meanwhile he’s being very condescending and insulting towards low skill workers. The irony is funny, it’s like the only people who consider “low skill worker” an insult are the people who themselves look down on low skill workers.
It's like when commies stand up on behalf of ethnic minorities while treating said minorities like infants. Amazin
I think it’s insulting in way that it encourages people to stigmatize and look at those workers as less than people, even to point where we would argue that McD workers don’t deserve increasing wages. Destiny is correct that one of the main reasons theirs a labor shortage is because people want to be paid more. However there are other reasons especially now with COVID-19, such as dealing with irate and angry customers who refuses to wear their masks because of store policy. You can pay these people $15 an hour, but if i have to walk in everyday and argue with power tripping customers about masks because of store policy, I’ll go insane
This is not unlike the racism nonsense of modern culture. White Fragility (the book) comes to mind, the entire premise being the author had racist tendencies and instead of resolving their issue they project it onto the entire world as some sort of system at play. The guy that calls in thinks too much of himself.
I had to mute because I couldn't focus on the fucking GODSTINY gameplay with all that background conversation
This dude is really trying to say farm work takes less skill than mcdonalds or waiting tables...there's more variety of skills and more issues that you must solve on the spot. I worked on a goat farm and at cicis pizza. The farm job required much more skill and was much more physically difficult by far. Can't stand these city slickers they need to go touch grass 🤣.
Coding is the easy part, the architecture (which is related to the code) and diagramming is the hardest part (for me at least). Also making sense of WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOUR CLIENT WANTS is a pretty important part, and trust me it is not thaat easy.
Jesus Christ this rhetorical shift point is so stupid in so many levels, just why, WHY?! How does theses people brain's work ffs, wtf?
However there are people that CARE about 'status' in a job/company, this might not be how everyone work's, but it is a good chunk of people, from the little I know, from the classes I took while in I.R., it is wildly recognized in Management/ADM btw,.
Yeah, I don't think they're specifically talking about the idea that it's "shameful" to be a low-skill worker, which can be true in some cultures. I believe the topic of conversation is opposition to the idea that low-skilled workers should be paid much less than high skilled workers.
Now, simple economics would tell you that there is a reason for that disparity. That's why I don't personally believe it's a "myth" created by businesses to pay janitors less. It's just the way the market works - supply and demand.
However, I do personally believe that inequality in general is something that we need to try and bring down as much as we can. Either by better education or economic reforms.
Lol what?
Agreed. The hardest part of coding isn’t understanding syntax but understanding semantics. I feel plenty of people could be taught the relative structure of a language. But what’s harder for them to understand is the algorithms and logic behind designing a program. Not to mention concepts such as discrete mathematics, object oriented programming, and several other in depth concepts of coding. anyone who thinks we could just up and teach people who struggled to make it through high school algebra to code is being unrealistic.
@@OMDxPopo I would agree that semantics are way harder, however I think you are underestimating how plastic human brains are. In the right environment I think everyone COULD learn that stuff, however if they'll ever find themselves in that evironment, or if it even exists yet, is another debate XD
17:00 The reason why most Americans don't want to do farming is not because of stigma, its because its back breaking labor and doesn't pay well for it.
I like destiny and agree with a lot of what he says but I really understand what the other guy is saying too. I made more as a waitress than I do now, but everyone would consider my current job more “respectable” because I have the title of “leasing agent” and dress business casual to work every day. Even tho in reality I’m only making $10 an hour plus commission to sit behind a desk and take calls and convince college students to sign leases at the shitty apartment community I live at. They both require a similar level of skill (though waitressing I would say still higher as it’s a much faster pace situation), but certain jobs just come with better societal perceptions. I don’t think we should call them something else tho. That’s stupid, it won’t change anything. It’s an inherent bias we have toward certain jobs in and of themselves, not weather we call them “low skill” or not, both of my jobs are low skill, but looked at very differently.
Also destiny is way too aggressive in this.
Doesn't it also depend at where you waitress?
If you waited at like a Michelin started restaurant as opposed to like Applebee's they'll be looked at very differently
Yeah. I worked in medical records at a hospital. I worked in an office, surrounded by people wearing suits and ties and sat in front of a computer. Most of the job was maybe 1/8 as difficult as a later job I had in retail, but the first paid more. If I said I had a job in a hospital working in medical records, everyone would nod with respect. Not so with the far harder job. Retail jobs vary unbelievably in terms of difficulty. Market value is often low when difficulty is high. Destiny doesn't address that prejudices and traditions and similar irrational forces play into market value, rather than purely rational evaluations of difficulty. If we forced all executives to wear silly, demeaning costumes at all times, would they be paid as much?
"Please don't use these words because they are offensive and I can't deal with that, also, poor people deal with it"
Why do people have to morally load everything? It's exhausting.
Morally load what in particular?
@@WhoBlah21 The term "low-skill worker." For Destiny, it's purely descriptive. The other guy is assuming it contains a value judgement.
It's simple...Low skill doesn't mean your job is any easier or harder
Trying to compare the difficulty of writing algorithms in general to a specific scope-definable task is a really weird comparison for someone who's supposed to have worked in IT to make.
If people like whomever Destiny was arguing with
are coming out of university, we're screwed.
i don't think there is anything particularly bad about him or today's generation. i think most of the people holding these views will inevitably grow out of it.
@@moeTLD Hardcore copium with lots of evidence to the contrary.
@@adamanderson3042 Evidence on the contrary that young people's views on the world don't change? Who's on copium again?
@@FortisV Young people's views do change over time, but lots of young-ish people right now do have lots of institutional power. We can see this in journalism right now and other fields that have a lot of cultural back and forth with recent graduates.
@@adamanderson3042 I don't think people like this guest or other students are those "young-ish" people you're talking about. Is still doesn't change the point that young veiws bolstered by free time on the internet are still open to change.
why is this channel better than the official destiny channel?
Damn minor gripe but Idk if it's because he's playing league or something but I feel like Destiny was way too antagonistic in this conversation lmao. Dude seemed good faith and calm and while I do agree more with Destiny he did not earn the right this time to be so, brutal? I guess you could say.
League Destiny is definitely short tempered. Maybe if he won, it won't be that bad xD
what league does to a mfer
To be fair it's an annoying conversation when people conflate low skill job with saying people are stupid
I mean tbf the guy he was talking to was saying some really dumb shit. I hate it when people try to push shit to help people they don't understand. It just sounds so ignorant.
@@kokosnotenXD But almost everyone conflate low skill workers to stupidity, hence why customers go on power trips on retail workers.
28:30 I'm not sure if he's aware of this (not trying to be snarky, just a lot of people aren't), but most state require professional fire-fighters to have degrees and at minimum EMT-basic certification. Volunteer fire departments are a bit of a different story and pay can get a little confusing when some people are full time with degrees in fire-science/paramedic certification and others are just guys who want to help keep their community's safe.
I'm also not 100% on every state, but at least the 4 states I've lived in have all had local county or town run taxes which go to funding the fire departments (both volunteer and professional). Usually it's either a part of your property taxes for your home or car or some combination of both.
All changing the term would accomplish is making "semi skilled" the new insult in a couple years.
So great to see this exact same conversation, with every same dumb argument, coming back 1 year later
I'm just going to throw this out there: that guy who claimed to have both been a software engineer and worked at taco bell is probably bsing. I'm a software engineer and I've never heard anybody refer to it as "writing algorithms" because that's an infantile way to talk about what's happening.
Ok here is some food for thought, what would be harder:
1. Writing an algorithm for a complex piece of software with NO coding training.
2. Wrapping a burrito at taco bell with NO training.
I've been in school for a year for software development, and #1 is still difficult. It's an insult to say #2.
1. Is harder.
2. Is hard if the person you’re teaching is an asshole or stupid which is what happens a lot in these low skill jobs.
If we use words that make people working these jobs feel better, that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
It doesn't matter what words we use to describe it, low-skill jobs tend to pay far less than jobs that require some level of training, just because this jobs are very easy to get and unless there's an exceptional shortage of workers it's relatively easy for businesses to find new workers.
In the way I personally see it, I believe that despite of that, there's nothing inherently lesser in being a janitor in contrast to being a computer programmer, and in my ideal country, the difference in wages between low-skill and high-skill jobs shouldn't be so high, and inequality in general is something that we need to try and fix.
However, it's not a "Myth". It is economically sound that low-skilled work would be worth less. That is just common sense, that isn't the issue. The issue is the inequality that comes as a result of that disparity and the way we can try to help close that gap.
@@cheesecakeburgler Yeah, I'm not saying it's magically going to make their life much better or anything. I just don't see the problem with calling the jobs something else if it makes people feel better.
Seems only condescending to me.
@@cheesecakeburgler That's why I said if it makes them feel better. If it doesn't make them feel better, then there is no point in calling it anything else
Like a participation trophy
Destiny really shouldn't try and have conversations while playing League. So needlessly aggressive
Are you serious? The only reason this conversation is entertaining is because he's so assmad about league.
Yeah I was confused as fuck watching this. He was really jumping down the guys throat and he came in chill as hell lmao
10:21 "Please Jesus, give me strength."
I Literally just followed the mom and pop that owned a gas station j worked at into a restaurant they bought and yes, I just trained myself to serve in 2 days and then I trained another girl, who's never served a day in her life to, in 2 days. 2 weeks later She runs circles around a couple of the servers we have that have served for 20 years lmao. It maybe the roughest (it's hot, in the deep south so no masks, and it's a fucking waiting job they suck) buts it's not hard.
In food service being a cashier, fry cook, grill cook etc is low skill though because the high skill is sous chef, head chef, and managerial as far as restaurants are concerned. Bartender and server jobs are more mid level in restaurants as far as skill. That being said, “low skill” is more economic language in the sense that when you’re hired at the fast food place they aren’t going to use that language. I just think this is progressive politicians trying to change the language that the government uses which is pointless like the entire argument.
But the language is important though, because people tend to conflate and load most terms. I understand what low skill working means in the economic sense and what Destiny is saying, however the rest of society see the term “low skill worker” and look at these people as “trashy retards who we can step on”
I think the confusion comes in as Destiny stating the reality (mostly) and what we want reality to be. He’s saying anyone can do these low skill job but at the I would argue a society needs people to do these low skill jobs for it to function. So we need to take care of our workers.
Yes but to what extent? You can always hire more people easily for low skill jobs so there's less incentive to pay them handsomely.
@@thanosthemadtitan5518 no they can’t. They are having trouble hiring people for those jobs.
@@platosrepublic6965 Only recently and post COVID as cost of living increased significantly. But fair enough.
I’m an underwater ceramic technician (dishwasher)
Cmon it's so dumb. i ran a restaurant and managed expensive wedding events, that work wasn't nearly as hard for me as college classes. There's just a huge difference between the two types of work. Also did aircraft mechanics and practically anyone could've done that
What do you mean by you people...lol 30 minutes conversation about hurting people's feelings instead of just paying them a competitive wage. Wow
More specialized work demands more pay. Anyone can learn to flip a burger and work a POS system. Not everyone can learn to be a database admin.
@@jsaktony1 any job should pay a living wage, why fuck work if you can’t survive of your labor.
@@EdStrings if you give everyone a living wage... then what is the incentive to learn a skilled job like me (I program all day from home... make 6 figures.... hella badass)
What's frustrating is destiny can literally Google tons of jobs retraining programs but pretends they don't exist
@@EdStrings the point of low skill jobs isn’t necessarily to pay a living wage…. It’s to give you somewhere to start. And even then, plenty of low skill jobs pay really well. When we talk about low skill, we aren’t talking about construction and lawn care, we’re talking about fast food and retail, primarily. If you’re going to be a low skill wage earner your entire life, go into a different low skill field….
You can tell this dude has no idea what influences the average worker’s feelings about their jobs. Almost everyone I’ve ever worked with instantly points out the bullshit labels and niceties as ways to trick people into feeling better without actually doing anything.
low skill doesn't mean not important. There I saved you 29 mins.
Also this just shows how out of touch some people that are higher on the socioeconomic ladder are. I make less than $20,000 a year, and most people who earn similar also know their jobs are low skilled, that's why they take them (less time to train = money that you need now). They might take it on because it's food on the table without a high barrier of entry so that way they can feed their family while also go to school at night. I seriously wish some of these well off leftist would stop speaking for the poor. Stay in your god damn lane.
I kinda agree with the dude's sentiment though. If you want the society to go along with increasing the salaries of low-skill workers, it doesn't help that the job is looked down upon because of how capitalism makes people judge others heavily based on the income and the spending. Even if this particularly is just an euphemism. I just believe that a lot of people want to find excuses to look down on others to re-assert their own position or image about themselves in regards to the rest of society or to make themselves believe that they have it different and better, and it would be nice if this type of behavior could be reduced to the benefit of low-skill workers
It’s not just about income, it’s about the value they give to society right? I think janitors and menial laborers would be on a relatively lower social plane even in a socialist or communist society, because high skill labor inherently produces more value to society
Destiny really learned how to script in Python and thinks he knows what working as a software engineer is like damn
other than that i agree
I am a coder in finance... python and sql all day and I get paid 6 figs+ building credit models.
I also worked 15 years in retail. Lol destiny is 100% right. I can learn how to be a waitress in a day
What happened to destiny using the same energy towards others that he is given. I'm a fan, but this just looked really bad, especially the good point he had at the end made destiny just end the talk.
Majority of the jobs are extremely easy.
The Traders are just glorified sales people. You don't need to have a degree to do the job.
You need to look good, & be able to talk about weather & sports.
They are not writing some complex financial services.
All these modern Statisticians know nothing.
To be a proper Statistician, you need a Math Degree. But the 90% of the "Statisticians" are glorified mouse clickers.
The Majority of the Accountants cannot even fill-up the TurboTax forms.
I've met so many people across the Corporations who literally do nothing, or even creating the jobs for the others.
Or the experts who sit & click buttons in some useless application.
This is exactly what George Carlin was talking about. Changing a label doesn't change the thing itself. It just makes it better on the eyes of people who can't look past the superficial.
Just because you work a low skill job doesnt mean you’re a low skill person.
WOAH JOLAH
1:10
I literally work 2 jobs : 1 low skill ( learned it In 2 weeks) 1 high skilled ( gonna need 7 more years to learn it ) . People are just delusional and soft
The dude says "I know people that earn less than a McDonald's worker counting pills on a Pharmacy"
Yeah... No shit Sherlock, you must need to know how to count fron 0 to 50 as a minimum and as a maximum know how to weight the pills on a weighting machine, do the math and that's it, if that's your only job in a pharmacy then get out of there, you are a waste of oxygen and money you can't possibly be doing just that single job, at least you are a cashier at the pharmacy and you place shit into the shelves, you just don't count pills and thats your whole job.
Destiny got so triggered by league in this debate lmao
Destiny having a pretty mediocre league match in this one
Destiny is playing word games the whole argument. 🤣🤣🤣
@Chris Smith Steven does it all the time. Just not in this exchange. Most of these streamers and content creators do it regularly.
@@matthewpolly5830 Can you give an example? I only see him "play word games" to clarify. For example, with the whole r*pe conversation he had recently, he argued about the word r*pe because it carries the idea of a very aggressive action in a dark alley. However, people were using it loosely to describe things that were r*pey, but different. He gave the example of a girl waking up a guy with seggs without them agreeing on it beforehand. This is r*pe, but saying "yeah my gf r*ped me" is going to give a very different idea than "my gf woke me up with seggs but we hadn't agreed to it".
Another way i see him do it is to make sure he and the person he is talking to are on the same page when it comes to the definition of a word. For example, when discussing how many immigrants have been expelled from the US under Biden, he asked what expel meant. He looked into it and it meant people turned away at the border when the person citing the statistic was using it as if Joe Biden had deported that number of immigrants.
@@Me-kt3gh the fact you have to explain what he meant to me in defense of him. You made my point for me.
@@matthewpolly5830 I gave examples of him clarifying words (which isn't word games, it prevents word games).
Still waiting on an example of him playing word games btw
It’s funny cause Destiny has and always will be a low skilled worker
I'd like to see you maintain as many viewers as he does lol
If low skilled worker means how easy you are to be replaced, entertainment jobs in the top 1% are actually really hard to replace. This is exactly the reason why Robert Downey Jr. got paid big bucks for the later Marvel movies, you simply can't replace the actor of your main character. This doesn't translate 1 to 1 with self-employed content creators, but more to larger productions of content.
@@ChiefBinChicken That's the difference between somebody who's good at an unskilled job and somebody who isn't. Anyone can work on a till in a shop. The difference between a Twitch Streamer and working in a shop is backpain and how much you get rewarded for being good at your job. But anyone can sit in a chair for 8 hours a day, play video games and talk to people.
Focusing on successful people like Destiny is a selection bias.
This dude is pure proof that a college degree, no matter how high or what subject, does not inherently guarantee good politics
hes a dropout