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My ideal version of the game is still the fusion of FES and P3P's additional features, like you mentioned at the start of the video. FES is still personally my definitive edition so far that has come out to date. Rumor has it that a remake of 3 is coming down the pipeline, so that fusion may still be a thing!
After loving P5, I picked up P3 and P4 last week. Started with P3 and am loving it so far. The visual novel style does make the world feel less immersive, though. If you treat it like a great dungeon crawler with a Persona wrapper, it shines.
@@Chaosflower Yeah it's still a lot of fun. I feel being more open world would make the story more impactful like P5 was. I feel like I'm getting near the end of P3 and looking forward to starting P4.
I've never played Persona 3 til the re-release on switch. I'm enjoying the game so far, I'm used to the visual novel novelness of it because big fan of Phoenix Wright here. I did look up FES though and I'm in agreement probably should have been that version but still enjoying P3P. Can't wait to finish and then move on to Persona 4 Golden
I actually think the audio compression is actually worse in this port than the PSP. Nyarly did a comparison between the Awakening scene in the PSP and PC version, and the PC version sounds even more muffled and compressed than the psp version. It's like I have no idea how they managed to make it sound worse than the original, how does that even happen
If you have access to both then the only reason to play P3P over FES is if you really wanted to play as femc and wanted an easier time getting persona with perfect skill sets. The skill cards in p3p+persona save abuse made the process trivial. Despite all the added content + challenges added in P3P I still think FES is still the way to go, just emulate it if you must. That version is literally abandonware at this point or buy the new port and try both. I completed both ver with max social links and beaten everything and although Mitsuru spamming marin karin meme on the ps2 ver is famous, the AI is not really that bad as long as you always scan the enemy first. P3P is still better in that aspect but in turn also made the game a lot easier. Might be spoiler territory here but its important so I'll make this as vague as possible. Trying to beat the super boss on new game plus on the psp version of p3p is a lot more grindier than the 1st run if you obtained the fusion cards from challenges before you start the 2nd run because they don't carry over to new game plus. You will need them to beat the super boss, there is no way around it. I seen people that beaten the challenges on 1st run but never fought the super boss and by the time they're on second run they realized they had messed up because they lost the fusion cards and had to do massive grinds to get them back. This is not an issue on the ps2 version because fusion are persona skills there instead of consumables. Consumables can't be carried over to new game plus. Hopefully it is fixed in this version. If you wanted to beat the challenges and super boss. Do it in a single playthrough to be safe.
I totally agree with you! Persona 3 FES may have The Answer, but it's really not something that can further improve the MC's story. His story was already done in the main game. And so, Persona 3 Portable is the better version imo. Shifting the life sim gameplay to a point-and-click style was actually a good thing. Less loading time and quick traversals. Not to mention the FEMC experience and the improved battle gameplay. The only thing that it's really missing were the anime cutscenes. The content of the cutscenes were still there in P3P, but in visual novel format.
I don't know if Portable has "improved" gameplay it's pretty much just P4 and FES and Portable have more differences in gameplay than just party control, FES has stun locking since enemies and party members have to waste a turn standing up after being knocked down. So it's more of a preference thing
Personally I feel like Persona 3 FES fan modded with full party control and HD remaster pack is superior to the Portable version as it's got actual movement outside dungeons and actual cutscenes rather than just being a visual novel.
I'm happy P3 is on a modern platform at all, but if they didn't have the time/budget to make a definitive version, I at least wish they could have just put both versions of the game on modern platforms
For me it’s not just the missing stuff for portable, FES was balanced IF you actually changed your Allie’s commands like Mitsuru to offense or Yukari to healing and fusion spells /knockdowns were used tactfully and always available. Now we have the 4 engine for knockdowns making some bosses worse while fusion spells are forever stuck as an item. Combined with everything else lost even if we ignore the answe it’s just a downgrade long term. Still have to do FEMC social links but what I’ve seen of moons ending….
I prefer Persona 3 FES over P3P. I think the answer was a great addition to the story as it allowed the characters to express bow they truly felt about the main character. I don't think the game was adding social links in this regard. I won't say anything more of the expanded part of FES as it is heavy spoiler territory.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have already played this on PSP so no reason to come back. Personally recommend it to newcomers, it's the Persona experience despite it's shortcomings.
I just don't understand why they didn't port FES instead. And what's with those rumors I hear about a P3 remake? Could this port just be a lazy attempt to cash in some easy bucks before they release the far superior version?
The only way to bring back Persona 3 was to add full battle control to FES. I have no personal idea how hard or possible that is to do after all this time but that would have been the right way to release it. I am hoping P3 Remake is actually coming like I've heard because that really should be the best banana of the bunch (Persona 3 options).
Nice overview! I just booted up Persona 3 FES on my PS2, and I have to say that the voice acting sounds quite compressed even in this release. I especially notice with the 'S' sounds as you mentioned. Even in P5, voicework isn't the highest fidelity. I imagine it takes some tech wizardry to jam so much spoken dialogue into such limited storage media (if I were more clever I'd use the word media to make an SMT joke here).
For those who wants to have an easier time getting into Persona 3 for the first time, I’d say this port is the way to go. But for those who want to play a more immersive and high production quality version, then modded FES is the way to go. It’s a shame Atlus didn’t add the animated cutscenes into the port, now that it’s not held back by the PSP anymore.
I played through P3 FES when it first came out and absolutely loved it. People forget that at the time, JRPGs were really stuck. Many Japanese devs hadn't accommodated to HD displays and games were becoming gray, bleak, and real-time. P3 was a river in a desert to the parched JRPG fans in the west. It's a game I don't think I could go back to though. It has its flaws and now there's plenty of sweet JRPG juice to drink. I'm probably best sticking with the sweet memory of FES.
On the one hand, we finally get my favorite of the modern Persona games with a soild cast and improvement of the gameplay back but on the other hand, personality I would have either wanted a version of FES but WITH the ability to control my party members like the PSP version or a from the ground up remake of this game. Plus, it REALLY does make P3 feel so out of place when compared to Golden and Royal, especially Golden since that was out on a portable system that was able to give us a world to run around in. Overall, if the rumors of a remake of 3 are true, then I would rather take my chances with that but if you REALLY want to play P3 then go ahead by all means. Nice review of this and yeah even I am not a big fan of Answer either.
Well knowing Atlus they will rerelease this game in a year with all the stuff you want plus some extra DLC to milk some money out of you! Other than that, I recommend getting the PC version because I 100% guarantee modders will fix all the visual and audio hick ups.
@@SuperDerek I think I remember hearing somewhere, maybe even from you, that modders were fixing the original psp version of this game so transferring that work over to here would not be hard.
I can only hope that Atlus gives a shot at atleast a short print run of physical releases. Im not sure why they thought a physical release with P4G and P3P wasnt something they should bother with. Its not like they wouldnt sell IMO
@@MiamiSunrise in my opinion it’s been held back for fans to double dip. Of course they know that JRPGs sell like hot cakes on Switch carts, but they greedily want both. It unfortunately happens too often these days but on the plus side, although we have to wait, the carts contain updated/patched code.
For newcomers I would recommend playing FES on the PS2 instead for a more definitive experience. Seeing as to how Atlus did with P3P port to PC you'd have much more better experience with full 3D cutscenes. The only downside for FES imo is that you cannot control your party members directly like in portable. Then again, both FES and Portable have it's pros and Cons. I started with Portable on the Psp back in the day and Played "The Answer" on the PS2
While i think this game is probably worth playing no matter the version, it's kinda sad to see they went the easy way and didn't try to make the final version everyone was expecting : a version mixing P3P with the 3d environments. I know, they weren't that fantastic, but i'll take it over the FULL visual novel format, which takes a little bit away from the immersion. Honnestly having tested all versions before this rerelease, my best time was with Persona 3 FES on emulation where inputing a simple cheat in the emulator enables party member control like it's a official feature.
FES has many mods for ps2 emulation, somebody even started recreating fem route but sadly didnt go far years ago. but a lot of p3p quality of life stuff are made with mods for FES.
Am I missing something? I thought that The Answer provided some much needed closure to the P3 Journey story. Is this a minority opinion? I loved the ending and how complete it all felt. It made sense in my head. 😆 🤣 Then again, I played it like 15 years ago. Yes it's a hardcore grind fest but it kept me going, breadcrumbs all the way to a very satisfying ending.
I don't think the "perfect blend" between persona 3 portable and FES would or could have ever existed, just because of the vastly different technical nature of each game. However I do think they could have done significantly more with this port, including manual skill inheritance with personas (nocturne HD added that in a patch) as well as something like a "new mode" which replaces the VN cutscenes with their respective FES anime cutscenes, they could have done that at the very least. Heck, even fans got the FES models in the PSP version through an emulator so Atlus really had no excuse for this re-release being as lazy as it was, really disappointed :(
The sad thing is molders have taken the psp version of the game and done vastly better with that then this port atlus gave us. It's quite disappointing.
@@cauapereira1019 that could be chalked to laziness to some people. We have seen some devs go above and beyond in some cases and some who take the easy cheap way out smh.
@@SuperDerek I finished P3 Fes, P4 Golden and P5, now playing P5 Royal…I’m waiting now for only one thing in this year. Persona 6 announced 😁😅 teaser, logo…everything 🥹
If you missed out on these games, they’re great. But if you’ve already played them, you’ve already played them. Good on ATLUS for bringing us this game however
Imo P3P is the best version of the best Persona game. I really love the more atmospheric vibe of the point and click style. It also saves the player a lot of time not needing to run around on foot.
It's hard to argue with this if you've got a way to play it. P3P makes a lot of compromises not addressed in the new port, though the port is still a superior experience to the original release.
according to a trustworthy leaker "i am a hero too" (guy called the portable port) we get a Persona 3 remake AND P6 announcement this year in the summer: both games are apparantly very far in development (and atlus teased a big 2023 in their new years card thing) well, lets wait and see...
Lol I do like the Portable the best. It is to me the definitive version to play. I guess it's just preference to Do you want to play as a Visual Novel or a PS2 game. Either or Persona 3 is a great game regardless of which version
I have no horse in the race as I don't know either version and I'm more of a SMT fan, but one incentive for me to play a Persona game would be if I could play as a female main character. So I'm glad with what we got, and I don't mind the sacrifices that entails 😅
Finally someone talking sense. You address the issues with the audio and such but every other review of this acts like the game is unplayable. It may not be the best way to play but it is by no means the worst
I think the lack of cutscenes was the biggest issue. That doesn't seem like it would be too hard to put in especially since even the weakest thing it released for, Switch, could easily handle it.
I've never played P3. I hated P4G. I'm really enjoying P3P though. I really like not running around. Just being able to click everyone is nice, and you can just click through and play it really fast like a visual novel. Actual Persona fans might hate it, but as someone who hates persona I really like it
Kinda wish they kept the whole, hey I can’t play around in the Tartarus/Shadow World/Palace today too much school stuff going on from P3, forces you to change up party unexpectedly and try new stuff.
My feelings on this may be controversial to some. But if I had to be honest, I was happy to hear they were bringing it as P3P way back when it was announced. I don't miss the Answer personally and even then, with playing as a girl being a factor, they would either have to figure out how that works... Or just ignore her character. Heck, even PQ2 shows how both leads can be canon. I remember way back when people were saying that Shinj should be the main character of the girl's post story. But what you said in this video proves why it can't happen. The Answer doesn't follow character developments and Social Links. No spoilers for people who don't know, but for those that do, it shows why this can't happen considering what happens storywise without getting Shinji's Social Link. The only way around this world be when starting the Answer, you get the ability to transfer your game file so it can react accordingly. Now I know what I am about to say next is definitely in the minority. But I don't mind it seeming more like a visual novel either. It's a bummer to lose the animated cutscenes, but I can look passed it. Especially since I preferred seeing an explanation to what we do at the final fight compared to seeing it. Don't get me wrong, the cutscene in and of itself is very impactful. But the added explanation to show why it happens... I feel like it resonates better with me. Ideally if there was a way to show both then that would be my perfect way to show it! Now it is a little sad we don't get the better audio. But I can look passed this too. Mostly because it could be a lot worse... And I have heard worse! I wouldn't say it's perfect... But from what I knew, it met my expectations and that's all that matters. It's like you say, hype responsibly. I would say that if any of the changes bother them to just stick with FES. But if you are going to get P3P, it might be better to get the remaster.
Spoilers for those who haven’t beaten Persona 3: Idk if you know this but the Answer is canon because Makoto Yuki is still dead/the seal for Nyx in Persona 4 Arena/Arena Ultimax.
I've said it a few times but P3 FES with party control is completely braindead due to stun locking so they can't do that, and Portable got rid of stun locking but it's the "stripped" version of the game for alot of people. Really all that can be done is remaking P3 to make everyone happy.
Obviously the complaint was not about social links carrying over. It was about the character development, changes in personality and confidence etc that did not carry over that bugged me.
Add widescreen support and the alternate protagonist route and we'd have the ultimate way for sure. But for now, this is still at least a solid improvement over the original P3P experience. :)
I agree with you regarding The Answer, but I'm wondering why you consider its story non-canon. As far as I know, it was referenced in future games, particularly the first P4 Arena.
If you've never played persona 3, absolutely not. If you have played persona 3, still no. Quality of life improvements only make sense in games known for their gameplay. Persona 3 isn't known for its gameplay, it's known for its story. Tone, ambience, interactions, cutscenes etc. All these things are crucial to the persona 3 story. Without them the game becomes a generic dungeon crawler with a butchered story experience.
Persona is known for its combat. And the story is still there. Social links are still there. The only real difference is how you move around the world. The cutscenes are a horrible loss tho.
Agreed. I don't know about you guys, but this version feels dry in a way. Don't get me wrong, the game is still good. I like it. But after a few minutes, you wanna stop. But the absence of the cutscenes... Just damn. I would low key call this game "Persona 3 Portable: Ace Attorney"
the fact that people speculate about a remake says a lot... the p3p is kind of a mess for me- persona 3 fes you can buy for your ps3 for like 10 dollar- much better!
It does. A remake has been my dream for years now. And that dream still lives on. This can hold us over for now, but it's just a stop-gap. We _need_ something better.
Fes is the best, and it's a disappointment they didn't remaster it. This portable version is pointless, it's like half the game. I'm happy about P4G though.
P3P is absolutely the definitive version in my mind. I’m with Derek on The Answer… was not a fan at all. The pre-rendered cutscenes are nice though; shame to lose them, but hardly a dealbreaker. Plus, alternate version of the story to replay on P3P. And if you liked the AI party, the option’s still there. I don’t understand why people have a problem with the 2D overworld though. I prefer it actually; reminds me of mainline SMT where all the overworlds are the “drag a pointer” across a map style. But make no mistake. I still think we could have gotten a proper remaster that contains the best of both and a decent sound mix on the music- of course then they’d charge $60 for it because well, Atlus. Love’em, but yeah… Atlus.
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What do you guys think about the Persona 3 Portable port? Is it the new way to play? Or would you rather stick to the PS2 version?
My ideal version of the game is still the fusion of FES and P3P's additional features, like you mentioned at the start of the video. FES is still personally my definitive edition so far that has come out to date. Rumor has it that a remake of 3 is coming down the pipeline, so that fusion may still be a thing!
After loving P5, I picked up P3 and P4 last week. Started with P3 and am loving it so far. The visual novel style does make the world feel less immersive, though. If you treat it like a great dungeon crawler with a Persona wrapper, it shines.
It’s great you’re enjoying it. I still wish you could have gotten the chance to play Fes
Same in my opinion the visual novel thing is perfect for me considering I love Ace attorney
@@Chaosflower Yeah it's still a lot of fun. I feel being more open world would make the story more impactful like P5 was. I feel like I'm getting near the end of P3 and looking forward to starting P4.
@@AlexDraut enjoy it my friend
I've never played Persona 3 til the re-release on switch. I'm enjoying the game so far, I'm used to the visual novel novelness of it because big fan of Phoenix Wright here. I did look up FES though and I'm in agreement probably should have been that version but still enjoying P3P. Can't wait to finish and then move on to Persona 4 Golden
I actually think the audio compression is actually worse in this port than the PSP. Nyarly did a comparison between the Awakening scene in the PSP and PC version, and the PC version sounds even more muffled and compressed than the psp version. It's like I have no idea how they managed to make it sound worse than the original, how does that even happen
If you have access to both then the only reason to play P3P over FES is if you really wanted to play as femc and wanted an easier time getting persona with perfect skill sets. The skill cards in p3p+persona save abuse made the process trivial.
Despite all the added content + challenges added in P3P I still think FES is still the way to go, just emulate it if you must. That version is literally abandonware at this point or buy the new port and try both.
I completed both ver with max social links and beaten everything and although Mitsuru spamming marin karin meme on the ps2 ver is famous, the AI is not really that bad as long as you always scan the enemy first. P3P is still better in that aspect but in turn also made the game a lot easier.
Might be spoiler territory here but its important so I'll make this as vague as possible. Trying to beat the super boss on new game plus on the psp version of p3p is a lot more grindier than the 1st run if you obtained the fusion cards from challenges before you start the 2nd run because they don't carry over to new game plus. You will need them to beat the super boss, there is no way around it.
I seen people that beaten the challenges on 1st run but never fought the super boss and by the time they're on second run they realized they had messed up because they lost the fusion cards and had to do massive grinds to get them back.
This is not an issue on the ps2 version because fusion are persona skills there instead of consumables. Consumables can't be carried over to new game plus. Hopefully it is fixed in this version.
If you wanted to beat the challenges and super boss. Do it in a single playthrough to be safe.
Wow your channel feels so official with the gaming ad. Honestly I don't mind an ad if it's about a respectable game.
Just bought it. I’m going to get to after Odin Sphere and Ryza 2. Can’t wait!
I totally agree with you! Persona 3 FES may have The Answer, but it's really not something that can further improve the MC's story.
His story was already done in the main game. And so, Persona 3 Portable is the better version imo.
Shifting the life sim gameplay to a point-and-click style was actually a good thing. Less loading time and quick traversals.
Not to mention the FEMC experience and the improved battle gameplay.
The only thing that it's really missing were the anime cutscenes. The content of the cutscenes were still there in P3P, but in visual novel format.
I don't know if Portable has "improved" gameplay it's pretty much just P4 and FES and Portable have more differences in gameplay than just party control, FES has stun locking since enemies and party members have to waste a turn standing up after being knocked down. So it's more of a preference thing
Personally I feel like Persona 3 FES fan modded with full party control and HD remaster pack is superior to the Portable version as it's got actual movement outside dungeons and actual cutscenes rather than just being a visual novel.
It's hard to argue with that. If you have the PC and the skills and comfort-level to set that up, that'd be very compelling.
I'm happy P3 is on a modern platform at all, but if they didn't have the time/budget to make a definitive version, I at least wish they could have just put both versions of the game on modern platforms
Yeah same they should've just put both honestly
For me it’s not just the missing stuff for portable, FES was balanced IF you actually changed your Allie’s commands like Mitsuru to offense or Yukari to healing and fusion spells /knockdowns were used tactfully and always available. Now we have the 4 engine for knockdowns making some bosses worse while fusion spells are forever stuck as an item. Combined with everything else lost even if we ignore the answe it’s just a downgrade long term. Still have to do FEMC social links but what I’ve seen of moons ending….
I prefer Persona 3 FES over P3P. I think the answer was a great addition to the story as it allowed the characters to express bow they truly felt about the main character. I don't think the game was adding social links in this regard. I won't say anything more of the expanded part of FES as it is heavy spoiler territory.
Best product placement I've seen in a while!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have already played this on PSP so no reason to come back.
Personally recommend it to newcomers, it's the Persona experience despite it's shortcomings.
This is my first time playing P3 and I think P3P is okay but I feel like they could have done more for it but it’s still a solid game
I would say 3 fes is better for the male mc route, but it is your only route for the Fem C. On a side note, Neptunia hype!
Pretty much, yep. :)
"The answers story isn't even canon"
*turns on p4arena*
......um.......who told you that
I just don't understand why they didn't port FES instead. And what's with those rumors I hear about a P3 remake? Could this port just be a lazy attempt to cash in some easy bucks before they release the far superior version?
Finally the big companies are giving Derek money! Keep the flow coming with ads big companies! Great video Derek! :)
The only way to bring back Persona 3 was to add full battle control to FES. I have no personal idea how hard or possible that is to do after all this time but that would have been the right way to release it. I am hoping P3 Remake is actually coming like I've heard because that really should be the best banana of the bunch (Persona 3 options).
I heard there are mods out there that enable full control.
P3 FES would be completely braindead with party control due to stun locking....unless they removed that then yeah that'd be the way to go
This video answered all my questions, thank you so much!
I feel like I just listened to Derek rap in that ad segment lol
Nice overview! I just booted up Persona 3 FES on my PS2, and I have to say that the voice acting sounds quite compressed even in this release. I especially notice with the 'S' sounds as you mentioned. Even in P5, voicework isn't the highest fidelity. I imagine it takes some tech wizardry to jam so much spoken dialogue into such limited storage media (if I were more clever I'd use the word media to make an SMT joke here).
Kinda really liked that ad delivery
Thanks tallguy! :)
For those who wants to have an easier time getting into Persona 3 for the first time, I’d say this port is the way to go. But for those who want to play a more immersive and high production quality version, then modded FES is the way to go. It’s a shame Atlus didn’t add the animated cutscenes into the port, now that it’s not held back by the PSP anymore.
I played through P3 FES when it first came out and absolutely loved it. People forget that at the time, JRPGs were really stuck. Many Japanese devs hadn't accommodated to HD displays and games were becoming gray, bleak, and real-time. P3 was a river in a desert to the parched JRPG fans in the west. It's a game I don't think I could go back to though. It has its flaws and now there's plenty of sweet JRPG juice to drink. I'm probably best sticking with the sweet memory of FES.
On the one hand, we finally get my favorite of the modern Persona games with a soild cast and improvement of the gameplay back but on the other hand, personality I would have either wanted a version of FES but WITH the ability to control my party members like the PSP version or a from the ground up remake of this game. Plus, it REALLY does make P3 feel so out of place when compared to Golden and Royal, especially Golden since that was out on a portable system that was able to give us a world to run around in. Overall, if the rumors of a remake of 3 are true, then I would rather take my chances with that but if you REALLY want to play P3 then go ahead by all means. Nice review of this and yeah even I am not a big fan of Answer either.
_Please_ let those rumors become a reality.
@@SuperDerek If the remake does come to pass, then I will 110% preorder that version without a doubt.
Well knowing Atlus they will rerelease this game in a year with all the stuff you want plus some extra DLC to milk some money out of you! Other than that, I recommend getting the PC version because I 100% guarantee modders will fix all the visual and audio hick ups.
PC modders have already fixed the FeMC's Ken social link. Let's hope this is just the beginning.
@@SuperDerek I think I remember hearing somewhere, maybe even from you, that modders were fixing the original psp version of this game so transferring that work over to here would not be hard.
Would so love a physical Switch release of both P3P and P4G. Do you think we’ll get on once Atlus have milked all digital sales?
I can only hope that Atlus gives a shot at atleast a short print run of physical releases. Im not sure why they thought a physical release with P4G and P3P wasnt something they should bother with. Its not like they wouldnt sell IMO
@@MiamiSunrise in my opinion it’s been held back for fans to double dip. Of course they know that JRPGs sell like hot cakes on Switch carts, but they greedily want both. It unfortunately happens too often these days but on the plus side, although we have to wait, the carts contain updated/patched code.
Great video as always, Derek!
Thanks for watching! :)
For newcomers I would recommend playing FES on the PS2 instead for a more definitive experience. Seeing as to how Atlus did with P3P port to PC you'd have much more better experience with full 3D cutscenes. The only downside for FES imo is that you cannot control your party members directly like in portable. Then again, both FES and Portable have it's pros and Cons. I started with Portable on the Psp back in the day and Played "The Answer" on the PS2
While i think this game is probably worth playing no matter the version, it's kinda sad to see they went the easy way and didn't try to make the final version everyone was expecting : a version mixing P3P with the 3d environments.
I know, they weren't that fantastic, but i'll take it over the FULL visual novel format, which takes a little bit away from the immersion.
Honnestly having tested all versions before this rerelease, my best time was with Persona 3 FES on emulation where inputing a simple cheat in the emulator enables party member control like it's a official feature.
FES has many mods for ps2 emulation, somebody even started recreating fem route but sadly didnt go far years ago. but a lot of p3p quality of life stuff are made with mods for FES.
Am I missing something? I thought that The Answer provided some much needed closure to the P3 Journey story. Is this a minority opinion? I loved the ending and how complete it all felt. It made sense in my head. 😆 🤣 Then again, I played it like 15 years ago. Yes it's a hardcore grind fest but it kept me going, breadcrumbs all the way to a very satisfying ending.
I don't think the "perfect blend" between persona 3 portable and FES would or could have ever existed, just because of the vastly different technical nature of each game. However I do think they could have done significantly more with this port, including manual skill inheritance with personas (nocturne HD added that in a patch) as well as something like a "new mode" which replaces the VN cutscenes with their respective FES anime cutscenes, they could have done that at the very least. Heck, even fans got the FES models in the PSP version through an emulator so Atlus really had no excuse for this re-release being as lazy as it was, really disappointed :(
The sad thing is molders have taken the psp version of the game and done vastly better with that then this port atlus gave us. It's quite disappointing.
they removed the cutscenes because the scenes where mc appears would conflict with femc's route
@@cauapereira1019 that could be chalked to laziness to some people. We have seen some devs go above and beyond in some cases and some who take the easy cheap way out smh.
Best way is buying cheap PS2 and playing best version….Persona 3 Fes
Either way there are a lot of compromises for sure.
@@SuperDerek I finished P3 Fes, P4 Golden and P5, now playing P5 Royal…I’m waiting now for only one thing in this year. Persona 6 announced 😁😅 teaser, logo…everything 🥹
If you missed out on these games, they’re great. But if you’ve already played them, you’ve already played them.
Good on ATLUS for bringing us this game however
Ayyyy, the killer instinct combo breaker 😂
Imo P3P is the best version of the best Persona game. I really love the more atmospheric vibe of the point and click style. It also saves the player a lot of time not needing to run around on foot.
Fes is still the way to go
It's hard to argue with this if you've got a way to play it. P3P makes a lot of compromises not addressed in the new port, though the port is still a superior experience to the original release.
@@SuperDerek fes has 30h more gameplay and looks better imo it's better to emulate fes
according to a trustworthy leaker "i am a hero too" (guy called the portable port) we get a Persona 3 remake AND P6 announcement this year in the summer: both games are apparantly very far in development (and atlus teased a big 2023 in their new years card thing)
well, lets wait and see...
Lol I do like the Portable the best. It is to me the definitive version to play. I guess it's just preference to Do you want to play as a Visual Novel or a PS2 game. Either or Persona 3 is a great game regardless of which version
I have no horse in the race as I don't know either version and I'm more of a SMT fan, but one incentive for me to play a Persona game would be if I could play as a female main character. So I'm glad with what we got, and I don't mind the sacrifices that entails 😅
it would be really nice if someone would do a physical release of this game and golden....but I guess we cant have nice things
Let's hold out for a Persona 1-4 collection :)
Finally someone talking sense. You address the issues with the audio and such but every other review of this acts like the game is unplayable. It may not be the best way to play but it is by no means the worst
I think the lack of cutscenes was the biggest issue. That doesn't seem like it would be too hard to put in especially since even the weakest thing it released for, Switch, could easily handle it.
I agree what you say on persona 3 including fes it sad those who didn’t play it but I glad in the end
I've never played P3. I hated P4G. I'm really enjoying P3P though. I really like not running around. Just being able to click everyone is nice, and you can just click through and play it really fast like a visual novel. Actual Persona fans might hate it, but as someone who hates persona I really like it
Kinda wish they kept the whole, hey I can’t play around in the Tartarus/Shadow World/Palace today too much school stuff going on from P3, forces you to change up party unexpectedly and try new stuff.
My feelings on this may be controversial to some. But if I had to be honest, I was happy to hear they were bringing it as P3P way back when it was announced. I don't miss the Answer personally and even then, with playing as a girl being a factor, they would either have to figure out how that works... Or just ignore her character. Heck, even PQ2 shows how both leads can be canon.
I remember way back when people were saying that Shinj should be the main character of the girl's post story. But what you said in this video proves why it can't happen. The Answer doesn't follow character developments and Social Links. No spoilers for people who don't know, but for those that do, it shows why this can't happen considering what happens storywise without getting Shinji's Social Link.
The only way around this world be when starting the Answer, you get the ability to transfer your game file so it can react accordingly.
Now I know what I am about to say next is definitely in the minority. But I don't mind it seeming more like a visual novel either. It's a bummer to lose the animated cutscenes, but I can look passed it. Especially since I preferred seeing an explanation to what we do at the final fight compared to seeing it. Don't get me wrong, the cutscene in and of itself is very impactful. But the added explanation to show why it happens... I feel like it resonates better with me. Ideally if there was a way to show both then that would be my perfect way to show it!
Now it is a little sad we don't get the better audio. But I can look passed this too. Mostly because it could be a lot worse... And I have heard worse!
I wouldn't say it's perfect... But from what I knew, it met my expectations and that's all that matters. It's like you say, hype responsibly. I would say that if any of the changes bother them to just stick with FES. But if you are going to get P3P, it might be better to get the remaster.
Spoilers for those who haven’t beaten Persona 3:
Idk if you know this but the Answer is canon because Makoto Yuki is still dead/the seal for Nyx in Persona 4 Arena/Arena Ultimax.
I just don't get why atlas didn't release persona 3 fes.
I wonder if it's a matter of losing the source code? Happens more often that you'd hope, sadly.
I've said it a few times but P3 FES with party control is completely braindead due to stun locking so they can't do that, and Portable got rid of stun locking but it's the "stripped" version of the game for alot of people. Really all that can be done is remaking P3 to make everyone happy.
I will never understand why they ported this one and not FES.
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why would social links carry over if you don’t even play as makoto/kotone in the answer lol
Obviously the complaint was not about social links carrying over. It was about the character development, changes in personality and confidence etc that did not carry over that bugged me.
Darn. IF and Compile know how to use Public Relations.
its not the best way to play, it removed 3D roaming and the extra chapter, the ideal version would be Persona 3 FES with full party control
Add widescreen support and the alternate protagonist route and we'd have the ultimate way for sure. But for now, this is still at least a solid improvement over the original P3P experience. :)
@@SuperDerek i agree that it should have all just been put in one, but for me p3p just isnt as complete as FES is
The big con for me : textures.... Some feel really cheap !
I agree with you regarding The Answer, but I'm wondering why you consider its story non-canon. As far as I know, it was referenced in future games, particularly the first P4 Arena.
Now that I think about it I have no idea where I heard that. Never played the arena games.
If you've never played persona 3, absolutely not. If you have played persona 3, still no. Quality of life improvements only make sense in games known for their gameplay. Persona 3 isn't known for its gameplay, it's known for its story. Tone, ambience, interactions, cutscenes etc. All these things are crucial to the persona 3 story. Without them the game becomes a generic dungeon crawler with a butchered story experience.
Yeah brutal. I had no idea the portable version was this way. Sad for newcomers.
Persona is known for its combat. And the story is still there. Social links are still there. The only real difference is how you move around the world. The cutscenes are a horrible loss tho.
Agreed. I don't know about you guys, but this version feels dry in a way. Don't get me wrong, the game is still good. I like it. But after a few minutes, you wanna stop. But the absence of the cutscenes... Just damn. I would low key call this game "Persona 3 Portable: Ace Attorney"
Nah, portable is better. It’s SMT, meaning it’s always been about gameplay. The story is still there, and the cutscenes weren’t that great anyways.
I disagree. Getting fatigued on Tartarus mostly slows the overall experience, rather than enhance it, especially on the lower difficulties.
the fact that people speculate about a remake says a lot... the p3p is kind of a mess for me- persona 3 fes you can buy for your ps3 for like 10 dollar- much better!
It does. A remake has been my dream for years now. And that dream still lives on. This can hold us over for now, but it's just a stop-gap. We _need_ something better.
I can't wait to dive into this! P3 has been on top of my to play list for a long time but I have yet to give it a shot. The time is nigh!
Enjoy! It's a solid experience, and the new port is a solid _contender_ for the top spot.
@@SuperDerek yeah I’m excited! I’m going to start it right after I finish Trails from Zero. So much JRPG goodness on the horizon!
Honestly the p3p port is no different to p3p on emulator 10 years ago. It is a low effort port and just not worth it.
Fes is the best, and it's a disappointment they didn't remaster it. This portable version is pointless, it's like half the game. I'm happy about P4G though.
Its very underwhelming if you have played it before
Nepu nepu Derek, nepu nepu 🤣
P3P is absolutely the definitive version in my mind. I’m with Derek on The Answer… was not a fan at all. The pre-rendered cutscenes are nice though; shame to lose them, but hardly a dealbreaker. Plus, alternate version of the story to replay on P3P. And if you liked the AI party, the option’s still there.
I don’t understand why people have a problem with the 2D overworld though. I prefer it actually; reminds me of mainline SMT where all the overworlds are the “drag a pointer” across a map style. But make no mistake. I still think we could have gotten a proper remaster that contains the best of both and a decent sound mix on the music- of course then they’d charge $60 for it because well, Atlus. Love’em, but yeah… Atlus.
Japan is done with Xbox
Done? That implies they ever started. 😆
But it’s on Xbox gamepass though so…