Very true I have exlite my mate has one my wife and daughter and son have Trekkers which are the same but heavier fabric we all sleep fine on them they arnt that loud never had any issues with noise from mine or from anyone else's people must sleep like snowflakes
Somethin is missing; a bear canister and a pack it will fit in/on. They are required in any national forest, etc that has a bear population. Aside from regulations, it's dumb to not use one. Hanging a food bag from a tree branch is no guarantee that your food won't become bear food. Adds about 2.5 pounds. I have been visited 3 thmes by black bears. Twice on the AT and once in northern Michigan. They were absolutely unafraid and proweled my campsite for hours. I understand that weight is a big issue when doing miles and miles over days and days. But since "A fed bear is a dead bear." lets keep the bears and ourselves safe. Carry and properly use a bear canister where there are no bear-proof lockers. Also, don't forget bear spray.
Watched it twice. Seems like a more honest review than most I've seen. I checked out Lukes Ultralite and Nunatakusa and WOW, what great discoveries. I'll definitely throw them some business. Thank you for taking the time to make the video!
Thanks for the comments. Isn't it great to find places that make great gear? That being said, don't go looking for reasons to buy things, stay light! :)
One more thing I might add, I do use a Luke's Ultralight windshirt that weighs 3.1 ounces. I wear it most of the time as it does a great job breaking the wind, deterring light rain and yet is extremely breathable. By doing so, my true rain jackets last much longer before needing to be retreated/replaced due to abrasion wear of the DWR.
It all looks really good. There are a few observations I have. The cook kit does not seem to have much space to have things to cook things in. Also different people have different metabolisms and needs to keep warm. Last year on a dry year there was a pretty big snow storm in June the hikers had to deal with. Sometimes the streams are too high to cross so you have to spend the night there anting for the water level to go down. You will not be hiking all the time. Then after crossing the streams you are very cold and wet in the morning. I hope you can sleep on top of snow and still be warm enough. Also how is carrying the pack with a lot of extra water and your food. Heading up to the Sierras you will probably need extra food and a bear canister and an ice ax.
Great vid! Good thing thru hiking is mostly done during the warmest months. I never slept in socks until backpacking this winter. Even as late as this last weekend hanging hammocks in the snow. Hopefully it's not a sign of me just getting old.
I have an Enlightened Equipment Enigma 20, and I love it. Very warm, plenty big if you toss and turn a bit at night, much better than a constricting mummy bag. It doesn't matter to me that there is no hood with a quilt - a common point brought up by bag users - because I bring along a balaclava to wear on my head when it is cold anyway. Of course, I haven't ever had a quilt before so all I have to compare it against is a bag.
Also should add that this is probably the first ultralight set up that I have seen on TH-cam that I would use. I'm not that light, but I may lighten up a bit, including some of the things that you have done, as equipment wears out over the next couple of years. Some set ups I've seen would just leave me miserable, and I think some are foolish light.
I have both the Haglofs Lim and the Pat. thermal weight hoodies. the Haglofs is significantly lighter in weight/thickness/warmth than the thermal weight. In warmer weather I love the LIM but the thermal weight is more versatile as an insulation layer.
Really? I thought when I was handling the Patagonia Thermal Weight it was identical to the Hagloffs LIM. THat said, I didn't have the Haglofs near me when I was looking at the Patagonia stuff. Is this new Patagonia Thermal weight or is it older? Interesting, I'll check it out.
Well, good question. I bought my Patagonia "Cap 4 Hoody" in the summer of 2015, just before the name change. A few months later my neighbor bought the "same", then called "Thermal Weight" for himself and his son for Christmas 2015 and they were exactly the same as mine. However, I don't know if they have changed it since then. Since I have several of these, I will rank them in order of heaviest to lightest: 1. Patagonia R1, 2. Melanzana Microgrid, 3. Patagonia Thermal Weight, 4. Hagloffs LIM. I never find use for the R1 because it's too warm except perhaps for true winter use. I love the Melanzana hoody and wear it more around the house and in town during the winter. I would call it a fall/winter/early spring layer. And I am considering getting someone to add a 12-14" zipper to it as I have seen done in a youtube video. By far the most flexible and most used piece for me is the Thermal Weight hoody worn over either a synthetic or lightweight wool baselayer/tee . And finally, I take the LIM when the forecasted low temperature is going to be in the high 40's to the 50's when I wear it as a baselayer.
I'm very interested in the KS pack. I think the complex website makes things quite confusing, though. I'm also more of a fan of the internal stays that HMG uses, since these can be contoured to your back. This is what has kept me from switching to a lighter pack from my Southwest 3400. I also prefer my Southwest to my Arc Blast for this reason.
check out Lukes Ultralight...they make a new rain jacket that is a pertex killer and is 4.2 ounces.. its made with the new 3 layer fabric from Rip stop by the roll.. he makes some of the best UL clothing out there.. oh and its $169.... that vertex coat is $299. and why have zpacks changed their rain coats every couple years? thats what i wanna know..the material changes..i think he's still trying to find the right fabric.
Hello Amanda from Kansas City Missouri . You had definitely done your homework and tryed to get the ul best gear i added you to follow and liked i pray for a blessed safe hike for you .
Great video. The plastic 'rainpaints' will probably last two hours. Your waterbag might last a week and won't be able to handle lots of pressure when packed tightly.
how does the ragged mountain stretch grid compare to Melanzana or the R1, I have been looking at the other two but the ragged mountain one is on sale right now
R1 is the warmest at ~13oz. Melanzana is a good bit thinner but is 12oz due to more material. The Ragged Mountain Equipment is 8.25oz. I was walking with the RM yesterday outside during 40F temps, light winds, medium exertion and it was under a Arcteryx Squamish windshell. It was performing well, and FELT like it could go to low 30's with that light wind. I'm just getting to using it, and remember that everyone's body is different.
No knife? I've watched quite a few videos and I haven't seen PCT thru hikers take a knife. Why? Is a knife legal (blade length)? I usually carry a pocket knife day-to-day. I always have at least one knife when camping/outdoors. I'd feel very uncomfortable thru hiking on the PCT without a knife.
BattleRattle I probably missed it. But a lot of thru hikers don't even take that (a Swiss Army Knife). Is it illegal? I'm sorry, it just baffles me that a decent-length knife isn't a common item to pack.
not the cdt, in colorado and wyoming (and further north later in the year) it rains very often. storms can come in an instant and I would say it's just good to not have to constantly worry about protecting down in those conditions.
I hiked with a guy on one of my AT thru hikes that at one point was carrying a 6.9 lb base weight. He weighed it right in front of me at Harpers Ferry. He had zero sleep system. When it rained he pulled out an umbrella and sat underneath it until the rain stopped, then he built a fire. Unfortunately in Hanover he got drunk with a frat house. When he woke up he was lost. Miles away from the AT on some golf course. He never did find his pack or any of his gear. He said maybe it was possible during his drunken state that he threw it into the Connecticut River. He hiked out of Hanover with new gear. A 5lb base weight. Pretty much nothing. When he finished on big k he was carrying a 22lb base weight.
BattleRattle Hanover NH. Frat houses use to host hikers. Dartmouth College. I'm not sure they still do. Hikers would stay for days on end getting wasted every night playing beer pong. Did you know beer pong was invented at Dartmouth College? Anyway at least he actually hiked on and made it. I was sure surprised. He went on to hike a few other long trails. He's probably got a Cuban fiber cookpot at this point.
Have you had any issues with moisture trying to sleep after hiking in your only set of sleep gear all day? Also, did you consider a rain poncho to replace jacket, kilt (polycro), and pack cover?
This list is 3 season, so I would only ever be on my sleep clothes for at most a mile before I get heated up enough to remove them. I would wake up in long underwear, put on long sleeve button down shirt, puffy and wind pants. Once ready to walk, puffy comes off immediately, i walk and I strip as needed.
Ohh yeh. Ponchos for me are only a eastern or midwest forests where you'll be hot, and not exposed to wind. Wind and cold forearms are to weaknesses of ponchos, otherwise they're awesome.
Ryan Lim It has 20% Lycra in it which is alot. I would like a bit less because Lycra doesn't dry AS fast (it's a minute detail.) 8.5oz for the large. Good construction.
What do you think of the KS 40 for 7 day food carries? I am looking at a slightly lighter/more minimal setup than yours (flat cuben tarp), so I'm looking at a hopefully 6 pound baseweight.
Daniel Fennell I've carried 26 total pounds and it was a good carry. Around 28-30 it will start to go down hill. This bag definitely has it's limits. You should be fine!
I carried 26lbs in the 100 miles wilderness and it was comfortable. I call it comfortable when I'm not reminded of the load throughout the day. 28lbs and beyond I would start looking for another pack. If your baseweight is above 12-13lbs I wouldnt get that bag.
Hiya mate, at just before 12 minutes you talk about the baffles and these guys th-cam.com/users/ProLiteGear did tests with thermal imaging cameras and several down jackets. Their conclusion was that the most efficient warmth to weight size baffle was, at the smallest size, the ghost whisperer. They found that smaller baffle size than that and the thread for the baffles inhibited the efficiency. They also concluded that the best warmth to weight included cuffs and a hem which was elasticated so kept the most heat in. ^^^ This is from memory I have not watched the video in a while so I might be wrong in how I remembered it lol, but I'm pretty sure anything less than the ghost whisperer becomes problematic. Also....loving your videos lol
WOW, and here's me hauling my 30lbs base weight pack very well done. I fully appreciate and admire ultralight hikers and walkers. But I have to be honest I can lift my 30 lbs pack with just two fingers and when loaded on my back because it has a very good frame I don't even feel it. Very comfortable to wear and I can do 20+ miles a day with it easily. I mean, I'm just trying to understand, what is the appeal of going so light?? A stiff framed pack is designed to make heavy loads easy to carry. so why so light like heres the thing: My friend has a 10lbs pack right, I threw his on and hiked with it a couple of miles, grand, no sweat it felt good. But then switching back to my pack, although much heavier due to the good frame I honestly couldn't tell the difference. I know hike your own hike and all that good stuff but I'm just trying to understand why people obsess over how light they can get their pack. Like are they not fit enough to carry the load? do they have bad backs? is their stamina not the greatest?
I can't speak for others but my base weight decreased as my knowledge and confidence increased. You know how they say people pack their fears? That was me when I first started. Way too much food. Way too much water. Way too much "just in case" gear. Now I research the environmental conditions and only bring exactly what I need. No more, no less.
For me... it’s knees and ankles. The weight on my back no matter how it “feels” is still putting more stress on my joints. I have arthritis. I have hiked with 40 lbs and with 20, and the load felt fine either way until... my joints started grinding. I minimize my load now so I can afford to carry 20lbs of Ranger candy. Lol.
Yes, at 50 I am no longer as fit as when I was 30, so I can feel the difference between a 30-lb pack and a 20-lb pack, and I certainly prefer the latter. It allows me to walk farther with less chances of injury. That said, I appreciate learning from people who obsess about base weight.
You do good videos and mean well in your videos however you talk really fast when mentioning all the gear options so if your not up on gear options or gear companies newest stuff then its easy to get lost in the names of gear options but you did a good thorough job.
i got the ruta locura carbon tent stakes long 9" version and the zpacks 6" version..they are exactly the same stakes..i bought the Zpacks ,Ruta Lucora along with the MSR carbon stakes to do a comparison..so far MSR are the lightest 5 grams , zpacks/ruta locura 6" are 6 grams and 9 inch are 7.5 grams..but MSR are a bit shorter 5 1/2/"..and the most expensive $30 for 4.. id go with Zpacks or Ruta lucora. and i always bring a few long and a few shorts as i use a tarp and i like to have the extra length for the ridgelines.
the Xlite is indeed noisy in a quiet REI, but with the wind howling and other night time noises its not bad
Very true I have exlite my mate has one my wife and daughter and son have Trekkers which are the same but heavier fabric we all sleep fine on them they arnt that loud never had any issues with noise from mine or from anyone else's people must sleep like snowflakes
Somethin is missing; a bear canister and a pack it will fit in/on. They are required in any national forest, etc that has a bear population. Aside from regulations, it's dumb to not use one. Hanging a food bag from a tree branch is no guarantee that your food won't become bear food. Adds about 2.5 pounds. I have been visited 3 thmes by black bears. Twice on the AT and once in northern Michigan. They were absolutely unafraid and proweled my campsite for hours. I understand that weight is a big issue when doing miles and miles over days and days. But since "A fed bear is a dead bear." lets keep the bears and ourselves safe. Carry and properly use a bear canister where there are no bear-proof lockers. Also, don't forget bear spray.
Watched it twice. Seems like a more honest review than most I've seen. I checked out Lukes Ultralite and Nunatakusa and WOW, what great discoveries. I'll definitely throw them some business. Thank you for taking the time to make the video!
Thanks for the comments. Isn't it great to find places that make great gear? That being said, don't go looking for reasons to buy things, stay light! :)
One more thing I might add, I do use a Luke's Ultralight windshirt that weighs 3.1 ounces. I wear it most of the time as it does a great job breaking the wind, deterring light rain and yet is extremely breathable. By doing so, my true rain jackets last much longer before needing to be retreated/replaced due to abrasion wear of the DWR.
Yes, even UV degrades DWR.
It all looks really good. There are a few observations I have. The cook kit does not seem to have much space to have things to cook things in. Also different people have different metabolisms and needs to keep warm. Last year on a dry year there was a pretty big snow storm in June the hikers had to deal with. Sometimes the streams are too high to cross so you have to spend the night there anting for the water level to go down. You will not be hiking all the time. Then after crossing the streams you are very cold and wet in the morning. I hope you can sleep on top of snow and still be warm enough. Also how is carrying the pack with a lot of extra water and your food. Heading up to the Sierras you will probably need extra food and a bear canister and an ice ax.
Great vid! Good thing thru hiking is mostly done during the warmest months. I never slept in socks until backpacking this winter. Even as late as this last weekend hanging hammocks in the snow. Hopefully it's not a sign of me just getting old.
Wow! I'm down to 12 pounds with my cheap hammock. Amazing gear.
I have an Enlightened Equipment Enigma 20, and I love it. Very warm, plenty big if you toss and turn a bit at night, much better than a constricting mummy bag. It doesn't matter to me that there is no hood with a quilt - a common point brought up by bag users - because I bring along a balaclava to wear on my head when it is cold anyway. Of course, I haven't ever had a quilt before so all I have to compare it against is a bag.
Also should add that this is probably the first ultralight set up that I have seen on TH-cam that I would use. I'm not that light, but I may lighten up a bit, including some of the things that you have done, as equipment wears out over the next couple of years. Some set ups I've seen would just leave me miserable, and I think some are foolish light.
Wow, thanks for that compliment.
I have both the Haglofs Lim and the Pat. thermal weight hoodies. the Haglofs is significantly lighter in weight/thickness/warmth than the thermal weight. In warmer weather I love the LIM but the thermal weight is more versatile as an insulation layer.
Really? I thought when I was handling the Patagonia Thermal Weight it was identical to the Hagloffs LIM. THat said, I didn't have the Haglofs near me when I was looking at the Patagonia stuff. Is this new Patagonia Thermal weight or is it older? Interesting, I'll check it out.
Well, good question. I bought my Patagonia "Cap 4 Hoody" in the summer of 2015, just before the name change. A few months later my neighbor bought the "same", then called "Thermal Weight" for himself and his son for Christmas 2015 and they were exactly the same as mine. However, I don't know if they have changed it since then. Since I have several of these, I will rank them in order of heaviest to lightest: 1. Patagonia R1, 2. Melanzana Microgrid, 3. Patagonia Thermal Weight, 4. Hagloffs LIM.
I never find use for the R1 because it's too warm except perhaps for true winter use. I love the Melanzana hoody and wear it more around the house and in town during the winter. I would call it a fall/winter/early spring layer. And I am considering getting someone to add a 12-14" zipper to it as I have seen done in a youtube video. By far the most flexible and most used piece for me is the Thermal Weight hoody worn over either a synthetic or lightweight wool baselayer/tee . And finally, I take the LIM when the forecasted low temperature is going to be in the high 40's to the 50's when I wear it as a baselayer.
Cool, good to know. Next time im near a Patagonia store I'll bring the haglofs and compare. You're probably correct though!
Nice - how did you have the guts to cut the NEMO pad? Did you find some instructions on how and where to cut?
B-Square I mentioned I haven't done it yet, but I have no worries once I do. There are TH-cam videos of people cutting pads.
I'm very interested in the KS pack. I think the complex website makes things quite confusing, though. I'm also more of a fan of the internal stays that HMG uses, since these can be contoured to your back. This is what has kept me from switching to a lighter pack from my Southwest 3400. I also prefer my Southwest to my Arc Blast for this reason.
check out Lukes Ultralight...they make a new rain jacket that is a pertex killer and is 4.2 ounces.. its made with the new 3 layer fabric from Rip stop by the roll.. he makes some of the best UL clothing out there.. oh and its $169.... that vertex coat is $299. and why have zpacks changed their rain coats every couple years? thats what i wanna know..the material changes..i think he's still trying to find the right fabric.
matanuska high oh yes, I mentioned it in the video. Looks perfect for the PCT.
For someone reading this comment in late 2018 look into LUL before ordering. Luke is going through a rough patch at the moment.
Great gear list, thanks. Do you add an approved bear can for the PCT sections in Yosemite and SEKI?
Bear can will fit inside, yes. Thanks.
Hello Amanda from Kansas City Missouri . You had definitely done your homework and tryed to get the ul best gear i added you to follow and liked i pray for a blessed safe hike for you .
Great summary man. Looks like you’ve dialled in your gear.
Thank You!! GO check out my 7lbs gear vid for an even more dialed down version.
great review. just wondering that if ks40 is OK for bear canister.
He Tian BV 450 and taller fit.
Great video. The plastic 'rainpaints' will probably last two hours. Your waterbag might last a week and won't be able to handle lots of pressure when packed tightly.
how does the ragged mountain stretch grid compare to Melanzana or the R1, I have been looking at the other two but the ragged mountain one is on sale right now
R1 is the warmest at ~13oz. Melanzana is a good bit thinner but is 12oz due to more material. The Ragged Mountain Equipment is 8.25oz. I was walking with the RM yesterday outside during 40F temps, light winds, medium exertion and it was under a Arcteryx Squamish windshell. It was performing well, and FELT like it could go to low 30's with that light wind. I'm just getting to using it, and remember that everyone's body is different.
No knife? I've watched quite a few videos and I haven't seen PCT thru hikers take a knife. Why? Is a knife legal (blade length)? I usually carry a pocket knife day-to-day. I always have at least one knife when camping/outdoors. I'd feel very uncomfortable thru hiking on the PCT without a knife.
Norman Kellison It's there, a small yellow swiss army knife.
BattleRattle I probably missed it. But a lot of thru hikers don't even take that (a Swiss Army Knife). Is it illegal? I'm sorry, it just baffles me that a decent-length knife isn't a common item to pack.
When thru hiking a knife is usually used to cut cheese and deli meats lol. A small blade works great.
Kevin Graham Thanks. I'll have to find out the legal blade limit because I'm not going without at least a Mora.
you mentioned going synthetic for CDT... why? isn't it super dry?
not the cdt, in colorado and wyoming (and further north later in the year) it rains very often. storms can come in an instant and I would say it's just good to not have to constantly worry about protecting down in those conditions.
It’s dry but when it starts raining it rains later in the season.
I hiked with a guy on one of my AT thru hikes that at one point was carrying a 6.9 lb base weight. He weighed it right in front of me at Harpers Ferry. He had zero sleep system. When it rained he pulled out an umbrella and sat underneath it until the rain stopped, then he built a fire.
Unfortunately in Hanover he got drunk with a frat house. When he woke up he was lost. Miles away from the AT on some golf course. He never did find his pack or any of his gear. He said maybe it was possible during his drunken state that he threw it into the Connecticut River. He hiked out of Hanover with new gear. A 5lb base weight. Pretty much nothing. When he finished on big k he was carrying a 22lb base weight.
kookiemoose Lol, determination. Montana has bears, Connecticut has frat houses!
BattleRattle Hanover NH. Frat houses use to host hikers. Dartmouth College. I'm not sure they still do. Hikers would stay for days on end getting wasted every night playing beer pong. Did you know beer pong was invented at Dartmouth College?
Anyway at least he actually hiked on and made it. I was sure surprised. He went on to hike a few other long trails. He's probably got a Cuban fiber cookpot at this point.
That sounds like a recipe to achieve the exact opposite of what I want to get out of being outdoors.
Have you had any issues with moisture trying to sleep after hiking in your only set of sleep gear all day?
Also, did you consider a rain poncho to replace jacket, kilt (polycro), and pack cover?
This list is 3 season, so I would only ever be on my sleep clothes for at most a mile before I get heated up enough to remove them. I would wake up in long underwear, put on long sleeve button down shirt, puffy and wind pants. Once ready to walk, puffy comes off immediately, i walk and I strip as needed.
MattShafter gotcha thanks for quick reply. What about the rain poncho question?
Ohh yeh. Ponchos for me are only a eastern or midwest forests where you'll be hot, and not exposed to wind. Wind and cold forearms are to weaknesses of ponchos, otherwise they're awesome.
did u say you were going to cut down your Nemo sleeping pad? How are you going to seal it back up?
I sealed it back up with a hot iron. It worked great! There are YT vids that show you how to do this.
@@MattShafter just heat huh. is it still holding strong? I want to do it to the new big agnes axl air, think the same concept will work
Great video! How far is the hostels/shelter for the PCT? Contemplating doing the PCT in 2019.
Awesome review, what did you think of the ragged mtn stretch grid?
Ryan Lim It has 20% Lycra in it which is alot. I would like a bit less because Lycra doesn't dry AS fast (it's a minute detail.) 8.5oz for the large. Good construction.
#staydry :)
What do you think of the KS 40 for 7 day food carries? I am looking at a slightly lighter/more minimal setup than yours (flat cuben tarp), so I'm looking at a hopefully 6 pound baseweight.
Daniel Fennell I've carried 26 total pounds and it was a good carry. Around 28-30 it will start to go down hill. This bag definitely has it's limits. You should be fine!
Thanks for helping me with the pack. I also really appreciate all of the posts you've made about it on r/ultralight.
Daniel Fennell No problem, I mention the bag alot there because it fits right in with alot of peoples baseweights of 8-13lbs.
What'd you use to add the mesh/any tips? I'd really like to do that to my pack as well!
Laura Adams Quest Outfitters 1209c heavy Lycra mesh. connect by sewing onto grosgrain.
thanks!
Awesome gear video! So many good tidbits. I like your bamboo spoon. Thanks for posting!
Really liking your vids as well. Thanks
What would you say is the max carrying capacity for the KS40, while still being comfortable?
I carried 26lbs in the 100 miles wilderness and it was comfortable. I call it comfortable when I'm not reminded of the load throughout the day. 28lbs and beyond I would start looking for another pack. If your baseweight is above 12-13lbs I wouldnt get that bag.
13:55 excellent pun Sir
Hahaha I honestly didn't plan it, it just came out.
Hiya mate, at just before 12 minutes you talk about the baffles and these guys th-cam.com/users/ProLiteGear did tests with thermal imaging cameras and several down jackets. Their conclusion was that the most efficient warmth to weight size baffle was, at the smallest size, the ghost whisperer. They found that smaller baffle size than that and the thread for the baffles inhibited the efficiency. They also concluded that the best warmth to weight included cuffs and a hem which was elasticated so kept the most heat in.
^^^ This is from memory I have not watched the video in a while so I might be wrong in how I remembered it lol, but I'm pretty sure anything less than the ghost whisperer becomes problematic.
Also....loving your videos lol
I can get down to 6.5 oz on my shelter! Eno sub7 hammock
you still need straps and a tarp..
evannmearedoofusbros okay my straps are 4oz and my tarp is 5
interesting, what tarp are you using?
evannmearedoofusbros just a $9 tarp from eBay
You end up ordering the micro 10?
No, Luke of lukes UL got in TWO car accidents and the business is really struggling right now. For now i'm just sticking with the frogg toggs.
WOW, and here's me hauling my 30lbs base weight pack very well done. I fully appreciate and admire ultralight hikers and walkers. But I have to be honest I can lift my 30 lbs pack with just two fingers and when loaded on my back because it has a very good frame I don't even feel it. Very comfortable to wear and I can do 20+ miles a day with it easily. I mean, I'm just trying to understand, what is the appeal of going so light?? A stiff framed pack is designed to make heavy loads easy to carry. so why so light like heres the thing: My friend has a 10lbs pack right, I threw his on and hiked with it a couple of miles, grand, no sweat it felt good. But then switching back to my pack, although much heavier due to the good frame I honestly couldn't tell the difference. I know hike your own hike and all that good stuff but I'm just trying to understand why people obsess over how light they can get their pack. Like are they not fit enough to carry the load? do they have bad backs? is their stamina not the greatest?
Ultralight is more oriented in doing massive hikes such as pct and at. But in the end its just hyoh
I can't speak for others but my base weight decreased as my knowledge and confidence increased. You know how they say people pack their fears? That was me when I first started. Way too much food. Way too much water. Way too much "just in case" gear. Now I research the environmental conditions and only bring exactly what I need. No more, no less.
For me... it’s knees and ankles. The weight on my back no matter how it “feels” is still putting more stress on my joints. I have arthritis. I have hiked with 40 lbs and with 20, and the load felt fine either way until... my joints started grinding. I minimize my load now so I can afford to carry 20lbs of Ranger candy. Lol.
Yes, at 50 I am no longer as fit as when I was 30, so I can feel the difference between a 30-lb pack and a 20-lb pack, and I certainly prefer the latter. It allows me to walk farther with less chances of injury. That said, I appreciate learning from people who obsess about base weight.
The lighter your pack, the bigger the ice chest!
Have you tried to fit a BV500 bear canister in this? Is it comfortable to put it inside the pack or should it be put on top?
Just put a Bearikade Scout in it and it fits very well. There's about an inch of room around the perimeter.
Nice kit, bit out of my price range but cool to see all the same
You do good videos and mean well in your videos however you talk really fast when mentioning all the gear options so if your not up on gear options or gear companies newest stuff then its easy to get lost in the names of gear options but you did a good thorough job.
Thank you and sorry! I'm rushing to keep the time reasonable. Take a look at my lighterpack link for gear names and ask any specific questions.
clubreo Be sure to check my lighterpack link, all the items are listed there.
great job
great video thank
i got the ruta locura carbon tent stakes long 9" version and the zpacks 6" version..they are exactly the same stakes..i bought the Zpacks ,Ruta Lucora along with the MSR carbon stakes to do a comparison..so far MSR are the lightest 5 grams , zpacks/ruta locura 6" are 6 grams and 9 inch are 7.5 grams..but MSR are a bit shorter 5 1/2/"..and the most expensive $30 for 4.. id go with Zpacks or Ruta lucora. and i always bring a few long and a few shorts as i use a tarp and i like to have the extra length for the ridgelines.
matanuska high Nice, good to know.
Great pack out. Just subbed
One reason I go is for exercise. The more weight you carry, the stronger you get.
Allen Fackler that's not objectively true. The more weight you carry the more damage it does to joints like ankles and knees.
That's not objectively true, either. Strong muscles support the joint by bearing some of the load.
"More power to ya" lol
HeyoLamo Ha! I wondered if anyone picked up on it.
My base weight is 17.5lb
DominicNikon that's honestly not a bad baseweight.
Same here I always sit about 15-16 pounds I have always taken comfort for a few extra pounds!
mines at 9 it could be lighter but I'm not giving up my Warbonnet blackbird xlc